Why is it that Sligo, Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Waterford, Clare, Wicklow, Wexford, Tipp, Meath and Cork can't get their arse in gear in terms of putting up a challenge to the hegemony of Dublin and Kerry in Leinster and Munster?
Each of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.
Are these counties lacking in the top 6 inches, or is it minerals they require?
I saw an article out of Cork recently bemoaning their removal from the All-Ireland Junior Football Championship, this sums up the mentality of a once proud county who can't help but roll over for the annual belly ticking in the Munster Championship against their old rivals from Kerry.
I'm beginning to think at a deeper level there is just an apathy towards the GAA in the south, or at least an apathy towards rolling the sleeves up and becoming competitive, something that certainly can't be said of counties in the north, with the possible exception of Down.
Have ya heard of hurling?
A GAA sport very popular in the Southern :-[ half of the Country especially in 5 Munster Counties.
Sligo is very soccer orientated... De Roooooovers are big there. Westmeath Laois, Offaly have a lot of hurling too.
Kildare won 3 Leinsters in about 90 years as horsy stuff is the big thing there.
Munster is a hurling province. Kerry often get a decent challenge from Cork but the langers are no good at the moment.
Leinster is a political issue. The GAA decided to fund Dublin and to hell with the rest.
Quote from: tiempo on May 31, 2022, 04:15:10 PM
Why is it that Sligo, Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Waterford, Clare, Wicklow, Wexford, Tipp, Meath and Cork can't get their arse in gear in terms of putting up a challenge to the hegemony of Dublin and Kerry in Leinster and Munster?
Each of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.
Are these counties lacking in the top 6 inches, or is it minerals they require?
I saw an article out of Cork recently bemoaning their removal from the All-Ireland Junior Football Championship, this sums up the mentality of a once proud county who can't help but roll over for the annual belly ticking in the Munster Championship against their old rivals from Kerry.
I'm beginning to think at a deeper level there is just an apathy towards the GAA in the south, or at least an apathy towards rolling the sleeves up and becoming competitive, something that certainly can't be said of counties in the north, with the possible exception of Down.
Could you say the same for the Fermanagh hurlers, why aren't they giving Kilkenny and Limerick a run for their money?
There is no excuse for Cork, but the likes of Offaly have certainly played their bit in the GAA.
Why is there such apathy in Antrim?
There are many reasons which have been covered, verging from hurling, lack of population, soccer/rugby, lack of funding.
Many hurling folk are not fond of Gaelic football judging from their comments online, they spend half time getting digs in at football. Only a handful of counties care about hurling. That's their own fault the top counties were happy to keep all the goodies to themselves, they won't even allow Kerry in the Munster hurling championship. 5 tiers and they're happy to keep the others down.
Quote from: johnnycool on May 31, 2022, 05:07:32 PM
Quote from: tiempo on May 31, 2022, 04:15:10 PM
Why is it that Sligo, Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Waterford, Clare, Wicklow, Wexford, Tipp, Meath and Cork can't get their arse in gear in terms of putting up a challenge to the hegemony of Dublin and Kerry in Leinster and Munster?
Each of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.
Are these counties lacking in the top 6 inches, or is it minerals they require?
I saw an article out of Cork recently bemoaning their removal from the All-Ireland Junior Football Championship, this sums up the mentality of a once proud county who can't help but roll over for the annual belly ticking in the Munster Championship against their old rivals from Kerry.
I'm beginning to think at a deeper level there is just an apathy towards the GAA in the south, or at least an apathy towards rolling the sleeves up and becoming competitive, something that certainly can't be said of counties in the north, with the possible exception of Down.
Could you say the same for the Fermanagh hurlers, why aren't they giving Kilkenny and Limerick a run for their money?
Maybe because they have a small population and half of that are unionists. And they care for football.
Kilkenny and Limerick have a much bigger pick and even then Kilkenny abandoned football entirely!
Sure Roscommon is further south than Sligo
Apathy towards GAA? Surely you mean apathy towards Gaelic Football which even itself is a stupid thing to say.
If Dublin were in Ulster or Connacht they would be winning those provinces almost every year also.
QuoteEach of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.
;D
Yeah Monaghan and Roscommon would really be putting it up to Dublin every year if they played in Leinster ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Turf on May 31, 2022, 09:12:34 PM
QuoteEach of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.
;D
Yeah Monaghan and Roscommon would really be putting it up to Dublin every year if they played in Leinster ;D ;D ;D
They certainly wouldn't roll over and have their bellys tickled like all of Leinster does.
Quote from: tiempo on May 31, 2022, 04:15:10 PM
Why is it that Sligo, Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Waterford, Clare, Wicklow, Wexford, Tipp, Meath and Cork can't get their arse in gear in terms of putting up a challenge to the hegemony of Dublin and Kerry in Leinster and Munster?
Each of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.
Are these counties lacking in the top 6 inches, or is it minerals they require?
I saw an article out of Cork recently bemoaning their removal from the All-Ireland Junior Football Championship, this sums up the mentality of a once proud county who can't help but roll over for the annual belly ticking in the Munster Championship against their old rivals from Kerry.
I'm beginning to think at a deeper level there is just an apathy towards the GAA in the south, or at least an apathy towards rolling the sleeves up and becoming competitive, something that certainly can't be said of counties in the north, with the possible exception of Down.
Pathetic from Sligo, can't even get moved into Munster or Leinster to sort this out.
Quote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2022, 10:11:57 PM
Quote from: Turf on May 31, 2022, 09:12:34 PM
QuoteEach of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.
;D
Yeah Monaghan and Roscommon would really be putting it up to Dublin every year if they played in Leinster ;D ;D ;D
They certainly wouldn't roll over and have their bellys tickled like all of Leinster does.
I'm sure if the GAA pumped millions into a particular county in Ulster you'd find the results would turn out similar.
Even the ill conceived north/south divide in the Tailteann points to a general unwillingness in the south to put in the hard yards (or mileage in this case)
Counties in Leinster and Munster have given up believing and fighting to be competitive with the Dubs/Kerry, content to be a doormat on their procession to provincial domination and then ask for the goalposts to be moved so they can lower the bar for themselves
Its no surprise one of the few bright lights in Leinster are managed by a Tyrone man prepared to go outside his comfort zone
I would not be prepared to give up the Ulster or Connacht championship due to the apathy and excuse mentality in Leinster and Munster, they need to own it and in time change their ways
Still not heard of hurling then?
Quote from: tiempo on June 01, 2022, 11:12:01 AM
Even the ill conceived north/south divide in the Tailteann points to a general unwillingness in the south to put in the hard yards (or mileage in this case)
Counties in Leinster and Munster have given up believing and fighting to be competitive with the Dubs/Kerry, content to be a doormat on their procession to provincial domination and then ask for the goalposts to be moved so they can lower the bar for themselves
Its no surprise one of the few bright lights in Leinster are managed by a Tyrone man prepared to go outside his comfort zone
I would not be prepared to give up the Ulster or Connacht championship due to the apathy and excuse mentality in Leinster and Munster, they need to own it and in time change their ways
Bright lights? The same Louth that were thumped by Kildare who were subsequently thumped by Dublin. Those bright lights?
Quote from: tiempo on June 01, 2022, 11:12:01 AM
Even the ill conceived north/south divide in the Tailteann points to a general unwillingness in the south to put in the hard yards (or mileage in this case)
Counties in Leinster and Munster have given up believing and fighting to be competitive with the Dubs/Kerry, content to be a doormat on their procession to provincial domination and then ask for the goalposts to be moved so they can lower the bar for themselves
Its no surprise one of the few bright lights in Leinster are managed by a Tyrone man prepared to go outside his comfort zone
I would not be prepared to give up the Ulster or Connacht championship due to the apathy and excuse mentality in Leinster and Munster, they need to own it and in time change their ways
That was more to do with cash
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Quote from: tiempo on June 01, 2022, 11:12:01 AM
Even the ill conceived north/south divide in the Tailteann points to a general unwillingness in the south to put in the hard yards (or mileage in this case)
Counties in Leinster and Munster have given up believing and fighting to be competitive with the Dubs/Kerry, content to be a doormat on their procession to provincial domination and then ask for the goalposts to be moved so they can lower the bar for themselves
Its no surprise one of the few bright lights in Leinster are managed by a Tyrone man prepared to go outside his comfort zone
I would not be prepared to give up the Ulster or Connacht championship due to the apathy and excuse mentality in Leinster and Munster, they need to own it and in time change their ways
Tipperary won Munster recently. Leinster is the real problem.
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Leinster and Munster football provincials, Frankenstein's abortion, excuses galore
Quote from: tiempo on June 01, 2022, 01:39:13 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Leinster and Munster football provincials, Frankenstein's abortion, excuses galore
Ulster pull and drag championship
Last Sundays game would give anyone a dose of apathy
As grim as Northern Ireland
Thank f**k you lot never took to hurling
You'd ruin it too
134 football all irelands played
11 won by Northern Ireland teams
134 hurling all irelands played
0 won by Northern Ireland teams
Would playing provincial finals in Northern Ireland improve them?
Do they have a stadium that they could play them in?
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:06:03 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 01, 2022, 01:39:13 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Leinster and Munster football provincials, Frankenstein's abortion, excuses galore
Ulster pull and drag championship
Last Sundays game would give anyone a dose of apathy
As grim as Northern Ireland
Thank f**k you lot never took to hurling
You'd ruin it too
;D ;D
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Says the arch-partitionist, from
Queen's feckin' County.
Quote from: tiempo on June 01, 2022, 11:12:01 AM
Even the ill conceived north/south divide in the Tailteann points to a general unwillingness in the south to put in the hard yards (or mileage in this case)
Counties in Leinster and Munster have given up believing and fighting to be competitive with the Dubs/Kerry, content to be a doormat on their procession to provincial domination and then ask for the goalposts to be moved so they can lower the bar for themselves
Its no surprise one of the few bright lights in Leinster are managed by a Tyrone man prepared to go outside his comfort zone
I would not be prepared to give up the Ulster or Connacht championship due to the apathy and excuse mentality in Leinster and Munster, they need to own it and in time change their ways
So it had nothing to do with a brown envelope, he just wanted to challenge Dublin and spread the gospel.
Quote from: seafoid on June 01, 2022, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 01, 2022, 11:12:01 AM
Even the ill conceived north/south divide in the Tailteann points to a general unwillingness in the south to put in the hard yards (or mileage in this case)
Counties in Leinster and Munster have given up believing and fighting to be competitive with the Dubs/Kerry, content to be a doormat on their procession to provincial domination and then ask for the goalposts to be moved so they can lower the bar for themselves
Its no surprise one of the few bright lights in Leinster are managed by a Tyrone man prepared to go outside his comfort zone
I would not be prepared to give up the Ulster or Connacht championship due to the apathy and excuse mentality in Leinster and Munster, they need to own it and in time change their ways
Tipperary won Munster recently. Leinster is the real problem.
One title though, Kerry have won 85 Munsters ? They just won another with ease only days ago
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 01, 2022, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Says the arch-partitionist, from Queen's feckin' County.
It's called Laois,Son
No self respecting Irishman would call it anything else
You lads need to be pitied
learning nothing but British history in your schools
Just wait till you hear what's happened Queenstown and the likes of sackville street.
Quote from: full moon on June 01, 2022, 02:30:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 01, 2022, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 01, 2022, 11:12:01 AM
Even the ill conceived north/south divide in the Tailteann points to a general unwillingness in the south to put in the hard yards (or mileage in this case)
Counties in Leinster and Munster have given up believing and fighting to be competitive with the Dubs/Kerry, content to be a doormat on their procession to provincial domination and then ask for the goalposts to be moved so they can lower the bar for themselves
Its no surprise one of the few bright lights in Leinster are managed by a Tyrone man prepared to go outside his comfort zone
I would not be prepared to give up the Ulster or Connacht championship due to the apathy and excuse mentality in Leinster and Munster, they need to own it and in time change their ways
Tipperary won Munster recently. Leinster is the real problem.
One title though, Kerry have won 85 Munsters ? They just won another with ease only days ago
How's the Ulster hurling championship going ?
Packed out with Northern Ireland teams?
Long and storied history?
Massive crowds ?
Competitive?
A competitive ulster football championship ?
Northern Ireland teams
Antrim haven't won it since 1951
Down 1994
Armagh 2008
Derry before Sunday hadn't won one since 1998
Fermanagh never
The question needs to be asked
Why are teams from Northern Ireland so apathetic towards winning
even in their own province
a football title?
Quote from: full moon on June 01, 2022, 02:30:03 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 01, 2022, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 01, 2022, 11:12:01 AM
Even the ill conceived north/south divide in the Tailteann points to a general unwillingness in the south to put in the hard yards (or mileage in this case)
Counties in Leinster and Munster have given up believing and fighting to be competitive with the Dubs/Kerry, content to be a doormat on their procession to provincial domination and then ask for the goalposts to be moved so they can lower the bar for themselves
Its no surprise one of the few bright lights in Leinster are managed by a Tyrone man prepared to go outside his comfort zone
I would not be prepared to give up the Ulster or Connacht championship due to the apathy and excuse mentality in Leinster and Munster, they need to own it and in time change their ways
Tipperary won Munster recently. Leinster is the real problem.
One title though, Kerry have won 85 Munsters ? They just won another with ease only days ago
Dublin and Kerry have won around 2/3 of football all Irelands. The rest go through cycles of winning and not. Now is a relatively poor time for them. The cycle is bigger than what counties in the south are doing.
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:33:43 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 01, 2022, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Says the arch-partitionist, from Queen's feckin' County.
It's called Laois,Son
No self respecting Irishman would call it anything else
You lads need to be pitied
learning nothing but British history in your schools
Just wait till you hear what's happened Queenstown and the likes of sackville street.
If this level of anger and aggression could be harnessed into something Laois might stand a chance, the provincial championships need to be retained, I'd love to see a Laois outpouring of joy similar to Derry, when they stop feeling sorry for themselves (not the only ones) they'll be on the road to something
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:33:43 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 01, 2022, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Says the arch-partitionist, from Queen's feckin' County.
It's called Laois,Son
No self respecting Irishman would call it anything else
You lads need to be pitied
learning nothing but British history in your schools
Just wait till you hear what's happened Queenstown and the likes of sackville street.
True Irish are from Laois, (quisling) partitionists are from Queen's County (likewise with An Cóbh/Queenstown, O'Connell/Sackville Street, etc.). Sin é.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 01, 2022, 03:07:52 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:33:43 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 01, 2022, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Says the arch-partitionist, from Queen's feckin' County.
It's called Laois,Son
No self respecting Irishman would call it anything else
You lads need to be pitied
learning nothing but British history in your schools
Just wait till you hear what's happened Queenstown and the likes of sackville street.
True Irish are from Laois, (quisling) partitionists are from Queen's County (likewise with An Cóbh/Queenstown, O'Connell/Sackville Street, etc.). Sin é.
There's no one from Queens County Son
You are to be pitied more than laughed at
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 01, 2022, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:44:15 PM
A competitive ulster football championship ?
Northern Ireland teams
Antrim haven't won it since 1951
Down 1994
Armagh 2008
Derry before Sunday hadn't won one since 1998
Fermanagh never
The question needs to be asked
Why are teams from Northern Ireland so apathetic towards winning
even in their own province
a football title?
Or to spin it another way...
* In the last 15 Ulster SFC competitions, there have been six different winners - Armagh, Cavan, Derry, Donegal, Monaghan & Tyrone.
* Of the three counties that haven't won it in that same period, Antrim, Down & Fermanagh, all of them have at least reached a final (Antrim x1, Down x2 & Fermanagh x2).
And yet in 10 years
There have been 3 different winners of
The Munster football championship
While 2 of the other 3 have made finals
And did I mention about hurling?
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:12:46 PM
134 football all irelands played
11 won by Northern Ireland teams
134 hurling all irelands played
0 won by Northern Ireland teams
Would playing provincial finals in Northern Ireland improve them?
Do they have a stadium that they could play them in?
You're not wrong but Laois hurlers are hardly any better than a few Northern hurling teams.
What's the excuse for Laois hurlers?
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 01, 2022, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:44:15 PM
A competitive ulster football championship ?
Northern Ireland teams
Antrim haven't won it since 1951
Down 1994
Armagh 2008
Derry before Sunday hadn't won one since 1998
Fermanagh never
The question needs to be asked
Why are teams from Northern Ireland so apathetic towards winning
even in their own province
a football title?
Or to spin it another way...
* In the last 15 Ulster SFC competitions, there have been six different winners - Armagh, Cavan, Derry, Donegal, Monaghan & Tyrone.
* Of the three counties that haven't won it in that same period, Antrim, Down & Fermanagh, all of them have at least reached a final (Antrim x1, Down x2 & Fermanagh x2).
And yet in 10 years
There have been 3 different winners of
The Munster football championship
While 2 of the other 3 have made finals
And did I mention about hurling?
you didnt mention the current all ireland champions. Doesnt suit your argument I suppose
I think the thread title is very misleading. The GAA includes hurling, ladies football and camogie but when you read the thread I think the opening poster was referring specifically to football and specifically to success at senior inter county level. I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong. Certianly I don't think there is any more or less apathy towards GAA north and south, that wouldn't be my experience.
Quote from: johnnycool on June 01, 2022, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:12:46 PM
134 football all irelands played
11 won by Northern Ireland teams
134 hurling all irelands played
0 won by Northern Ireland teams
Would playing provincial finals in Northern Ireland improve them?
Do they have a stadium that they could play them in?
You're not wrong but Laois hurlers are hardly any better than a few Northern hurling teams.
What's the excuse for Laois hurlers?
Laois hurlers are consistently a top 10 team. They would probably beat 6 of the 9 Ulster counties by a cricket score. Derry and Down would be kinda competitive with them and Antrim would be always a close game.
I'd actually argue there's more apathy to hurling in Ulster than there is is to gaelic football in the other three provinces.
Of course, the whole thread is a bullshit attempt at a wind up. Must try harder.
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:33:43 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 01, 2022, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Says the arch-partitionist, from Queen's feckin' County.
It's called Laois,Son
No self respecting Irishman would call it anything else
You lads need to be pitied
learning nothing but British history in your schools
Just wait till you hear what's happened Queenstown and the likes of sackville street.
No self respecting Irishman would you the term "northern ireland" when discussing GAA as even you must know GAA works through the 4 ancient provinces, of Ulster is the one you are speaking off. I know you probably think you are awfully witty but you are not. Regarding the success of Ulster counties in the All Ireland series, well it may have something to do with 1) A aggressively anti gaa government in control in the 6 counties for most of its 100 years and 2) The fact that 3 counties south on the republic side of the border had been (and continue to be) cast aside in terms of economic growth more than any other part of the country I would argue - just look at infrastructure (road, rail, universities etc).
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:12:46 PM
134 football all irelands played
11 won by Northern Ireland teams
134 hurling all irelands played
0 won by Northern Ireland teams
Would playing provincial finals in Northern Ireland improve them?
Do they have a stadium that they could play them in?
Didn't know Ruth Dudley Edwards was on the board!
What a weird thread.
Quote from: Itchy on June 01, 2022, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:33:43 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 01, 2022, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Says the arch-partitionist, from Queen's feckin' County.
It's called Laois,Son
No self respecting Irishman would call it anything else
You lads need to be pitied
learning nothing but British history in your schools
Just wait till you hear what's happened Queenstown and the likes of sackville street.
No self respecting Irishman would you the term "northern ireland" when discussing GAA as even you must know GAA works through the 4 ancient provinces, of Ulster is the one you are speaking off. I know you probably think you are awfully witty but you are not. Regarding the success of Ulster counties in the All Ireland series, well it may have something to do with 1) A aggressively anti gaa government in control in the 6 counties for most of its 100 years and 2) The fact that 3 counties south on the republic side of the border had been (and continue to be) cast aside in terms of economic growth more than any other part of the country I would argue - just look at infrastructure (road, rail, universities etc).
The lad is clearly winding. Looking a bite.
Some population centres should be doing better namely Cork footballers, Wicklow. Antrim could be thrown in there too.
When you are from a county like Laois it's hard to keep people interested in football especially when you have one Leinster in 75 years and zero all Irelands in the competitions history, even though Laois have produced lots of good players and the occasional good team . The gap is widening and unfortunately apathy is only going to get worse .
21/22 counties in similar situations .
Turn championship into a tiered league system like English football with promotion and relegation it's the only hope for gaa in weaker counties .
Quote from: full moon on June 01, 2022, 07:02:33 PM
Some population centres should be doing better namely Cork footballers, Wicklow. Antrim could be thrown in there too.
Kildare has a large population and nothing much to show in either hurling or football. Too much horsing about.
When you have sports administered by province you get provincial championships. This would be the place to start reform.
Quote from: full moon on June 01, 2022, 07:02:33 PM
Some population centres should be doing better namely Cork footballers, Wicklow. Antrim could be thrown in there too.
What is the population of Wicklow? Surely the most under-achieving county in Ireland.
Quote from: charlieTully on June 01, 2022, 06:27:01 PM
Quote from: Itchy on June 01, 2022, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:33:43 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 01, 2022, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Says the arch-partitionist, from Queen's feckin' County.
It's called Laois,Son
No self respecting Irishman would call it anything else
You lads need to be pitied
learning nothing but British history in your schools
Just wait till you hear what's happened Queenstown and the likes of sackville street.
No self respecting Irishman would you the term "northern ireland" when discussing GAA as even you must know GAA works through the 4 ancient provinces, of Ulster is the one you are speaking off. I know you probably think you are awfully witty but you are not. Regarding the success of Ulster counties in the All Ireland series, well it may have something to do with 1) A aggressively anti gaa government in control in the 6 counties for most of its 100 years and 2) The fact that 3 counties south on the republic side of the border had been (and continue to be) cast aside in terms of economic growth more than any other part of the country I would argue - just look at infrastructure (road, rail, universities etc).
The lad is clearly winding. Looking a bite.
There's a bit of a want in that lad, probably borne out of sheer despair at the state of his own county
In fairness, he has a point about the hurling - the teams in the top half of the country just don't seem to have it.
Most ulster counties can manage to put out a competitive football team though - so at least there's hope of silverware on one front
If yer a Laois man, looking at 2 bags of shite, it must be a massively more frustrating
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 01, 2022, 09:23:23 PM
Quote from: full moon on June 01, 2022, 07:02:33 PM
Some population centres should be doing better namely Cork footballers, Wicklow. Antrim could be thrown in there too.
What is the population of Wicklow? Surely the most under-achieving county in Ireland.
142,425 according to the previous census but I'd expect that to be increased by another fair bit from the latest census. Wicklow have often intrigued me as they're not particularly into hurling either so I assume football is the main of both codes there. I do know there is a good few rugby people down there affiliated to Leinster. I suppose Bray Wanderers too. But nothing out of the norm. Would be a fairly wealthy county. I've met plenty of D4 types who aren't from Dublin but actually Wicklow.
If there are any Wicklow folk on here perhaps they might chip in. I actually had a few quid on them to turn over Offaly last week but they underperformed.
Geographically Wicklow is two different counties. Clubs along coast and then bordering Kildare/Carlow/Wexford.
Plus you've a huge influx of Dubs who often contribute nothing to local clubs
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on June 03, 2022, 08:32:30 PM
Geographically Wicklow is two different counties. Clubs along coast and then bordering Kildare/Carlow/Wexford.
Both useless.
Many counties have two parts, Leitrim or even Armagh.
Yep, Wicklow is split along the east-west spine, with the west Wicklovians looking upon the easties as virtual Dubs -- will take the equivalent of the sporting alchemist's magic to produce a formidable whole from that mixture.
Mustn't forget either, with no disrespect to the Wicklow folk in the slightest, but it was only split out into a separate county from Dublin and Carlow in 1606 -- the very last of the 32 Counties to be so designated.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 03, 2022, 10:01:14 PM
Yep, Wicklow is split along the east-west spine, with the west Wicklovians looking upon the easties as virtual Dubs -- will take the equivalent of the sporting alchemist's magic to produce a formidable whole from that mixture.
Mustn't forget either, with no disrespect to the Wicklow folk in the slightest, but it was only split out into a separate county from Dublin and Carlow in 1606 -- the very last of the 32 Counties to be so designated.
Christ glad they weren't subjected to unionism and their notions of ethnic cleansing. Its a wonder there's an Ulster championship at all, maybe having to fight for it up north has bred a more competitive gael, while those in the south have a more delicate disposition, hence their apathy to provincial championships and winning football.
Quote from: Itchy on June 01, 2022, 04:18:01 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 02:33:43 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 01, 2022, 02:25:57 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on June 01, 2022, 01:19:01 PM
Time for an All Northern Ireland Championship or even better merge with the British Championship
Some abortion of a thread
Says the arch-partitionist, from Queen's feckin' County.
It's called Laois,Son
No self respecting Irishman would call it anything else
You lads need to be pitied
learning nothing but British history in your schools
Just wait till you hear what's happened Queenstown and the likes of sackville street.
No self respecting Irishman would you the term "northern ireland" when discussing GAA as even you must know GAA works through the 4 ancient provinces, of Ulster is the one you are speaking off. I know you probably think you are awfully witty but you are not. Regarding the success of Ulster counties in the All Ireland series, well it may have something to do with 1) A aggressively anti gaa government in control in the 6 counties for most of its 100 years and 2) The fact that 3 counties south on the republic side of the border had been (and continue to be) cast aside in terms of economic growth more than any other part of the country I would argue - just look at infrastructure (road, rail, universities etc).
Nordies in feeing sorry for themselves shocker