Would Aontu be considered far right?
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Show posts MenuQuote from: trueblue1234 on Today at 12:35:34 AMQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 11:42:17 PMI get itI think the point is why are you not as agitated about other perhaps more significant issues such as the aforementioned tax evasion on the likes of the Healthcare, law enforcement etc if you can explain that, then people might be less likely to label you as potentially racist for constantly referring it back to immigration.
Any any all complaints/concerns regarding migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are driven by racism or stupidity or both
If you're a taxpayer how dare you question the funneling of hundreds of millions in taxpayer money to immigration when basic services such as healthcare, law enforcement and education go unfounded
Should be an interesting election season
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 10:35:39 PMQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 09:02:15 PMQuote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 08:39:57 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:36:35 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on March 28, 2024, 07:11:15 PMSeeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 06:55:58 PMHear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issuesQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PMSo if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?
And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?
All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.
After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?
Screaming far right doesn't help.
Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.
And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism
Thanks for demonstrating my point for me. Not once there did you reference, for example, tax evasion by the super wealthy. Why aren't you vehemently posting your outrage about how maybe those "10,000 disabled kids" might have a better chance if the government would crack down on tax evasion? The amount that would save would dwarf what is spent on immigrants. Think of the billions that would be available to improve the the health service etc.
But no..
It's ALL the fault of those bloody immigrants!!!!
Like I keep saying. It's either stupidity, or racism and stupidity.
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 10:24:47 PMQuote from: JoG2 on March 28, 2024, 10:15:19 PMQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 09:02:15 PMQuote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 08:39:57 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:36:35 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on March 28, 2024, 07:11:15 PMSeeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 06:55:58 PMHear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issuesQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PMSo if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?
And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?
All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.
After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?
Screaming far right doesn't help.
Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.
And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism
I hear it's closer to trillions. You forgot to shoehorn the homeless in there. You've a huge heart caring so deeply about so so many
He keeps saying "We" so maybe he's referring to Biden's America?
Quote from: JoG2 on March 28, 2024, 10:15:19 PMQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 09:02:15 PMQuote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 08:39:57 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:36:35 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on March 28, 2024, 07:11:15 PMSeeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 06:55:58 PMHear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issuesQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PMSo if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?
And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?
All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.
After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?
Screaming far right doesn't help.
Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.
And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism
I hear it's closer to trillions. You forgot to shoehorn the homeless in there. You've a huge heart caring so deeply about so so many
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 09:47:01 PMQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 09:02:15 PMQuote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 08:39:57 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:36:35 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on March 28, 2024, 07:11:15 PMSeeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 06:55:58 PMHear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issuesQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PMSo if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?
And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?
All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.
After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?
Screaming far right doesn't help.
Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.
And we were told that there was no money to fix hospitals..........and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
There's towns and villages that don't have a single Guard-and yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
38000 people have been waiting for more than 18 months for a scan yet we have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
10,000 disabled kids have been waiting for more than a year to get an appt to see a specialist and yet we somehow have hundreds of millions (if not billions) to house, feed and clothe refugees
People are rightly outraged and it has shag all to do with racism
Listen you are in yank land, you havent a clue what your talking about. There is no shortage of money into healthcare. There's a shortage of value for money, competency and accountability. See new children's hospital. Now stop pretending you know anything about Ireland.
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 08:39:57 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 28, 2024, 08:36:35 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on March 28, 2024, 07:11:15 PMSeeing millions being spent on housing refugees etc is bound to (rightly or wrongly) piss people off when they can see the state of things like the roads, hospitals, schools etc. low hanging fruit for a protest vote.Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 06:55:58 PMHear hear... is a very useful distraction used by FG and Tories from those other more pressing issuesQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:22:08 PMSo if I understand you correctly, in your view, ALL concerns regarding immigration are driven by either racism or stupidity (or both)?
And if the answer is yes-do you support open borders?
All concerns? Not in the slightest. But anyone who regards it as a priority or anything close to one, or who spends more time obsessing about it than about they do about health, education, taxation etc...Well you have to question their motivation.
After all, other than racism or stupidity, why would anyone be angry enough to take to the streets, or to base their voting decisions in protest about immigration ahead of in protest about the state of the health service, or housing crisis, or tax evasion by the super wealthy etc etc etc?
Screaming far right doesn't help.
Hospitals have been a shambles long before a refugee was about the place. If you blame hospital issues on refugees it's as simple as this, you are a racist.
Quote from: Rossfan on March 28, 2024, 06:40:09 PMWould a few posters here be of like mind to this c**t?
https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/passenger-racially-abused-airline-worker-telling-her-to-go-back-to-africa/a1145756224.html
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 06:44:57 PMQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 06:27:09 PMQuote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 06:22:57 PMQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 03:48:21 PMQuote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 03:31:13 PMQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 01:46:52 PMImmigration is the number one issue because it costs hundreds of millions of Euro to house, feed, clothe and transport these people (some of whom are complete fraudsters)
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/cost-accommodating-asylum-seekers-increased-31485431.amp
Ah so your biggest concern day to day isn't being able to afford to heat the home you can't afford to own, but rather, it's the money the state has to pay for those damn immigrants? Surely if it's true that on a day-to-day bais the health of the states coffers are of more concern to you than your own coffers, then taxation and tax dodging by the superwealthy that ought to be making you mad, instead of the dark skinned fella walking down the street minding his own business?
People have (and had) legitimate concerns that are not being addressed
The government (and Sinn Fein) had an opportunity to tackle this but they caved to the woke NGOs and just started calling people racists and far right
I have 4 immediate family members who are staunch lifelong Blueshirts and they're all voting third party at the next election
I'm not surprised that's the stock you come from.
Tell me, who is this "third party" and what's the name of the candidate?
I used the term third party in the generic sense-ie not FF, FG, SF, PBP, Labour etc
Candidates haven't been declared yet-so it will be some type of protest vote for someone like Aontu or an independent if I were to guess
Ok so who does that leave for them to vote for. Tell me the constituency and I'll even help you find out.
Quote from: Itchy on March 28, 2024, 06:22:57 PMQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 03:48:21 PMQuote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 03:31:13 PMQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 01:46:52 PMImmigration is the number one issue because it costs hundreds of millions of Euro to house, feed, clothe and transport these people (some of whom are complete fraudsters)
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/cost-accommodating-asylum-seekers-increased-31485431.amp
Ah so your biggest concern day to day isn't being able to afford to heat the home you can't afford to own, but rather, it's the money the state has to pay for those damn immigrants? Surely if it's true that on a day-to-day bais the health of the states coffers are of more concern to you than your own coffers, then taxation and tax dodging by the superwealthy that ought to be making you mad, instead of the dark skinned fella walking down the street minding his own business?
People have (and had) legitimate concerns that are not being addressed
The government (and Sinn Fein) had an opportunity to tackle this but they caved to the woke NGOs and just started calling people racists and far right
I have 4 immediate family members who are staunch lifelong Blueshirts and they're all voting third party at the next election
I'm not surprised that's the stock you come from.
Tell me, who is this "third party" and what's the name of the candidate?
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 05:39:13 PMWhitey, why aren't you more concerned about tax evasion by the super wealthy than you are about immigrants, if concern for the public purse is your genuine motivation, rather than just, ya know...racism?
Quote from: Snapchap on March 28, 2024, 03:31:13 PMQuote from: whitey on March 28, 2024, 01:46:52 PMImmigration is the number one issue because it costs hundreds of millions of Euro to house, feed, clothe and transport these people (some of whom are complete fraudsters)
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/politics/cost-accommodating-asylum-seekers-increased-31485431.amp
Ah so your biggest concern day to day isn't being able to afford to heat the home you can't afford to own, but rather, it's the money the state has to pay for those damn immigrants? Surely if it's true that on a day-to-day bais the health of the states coffers are of more concern to you than your own coffers, then taxation and tax dodging by the superwealthy that ought to be making you mad, instead of the dark skinned fella walking down the street minding his own business?