The Many Faces of US Politics...

[five points]

I thought he was long gone off twitter. I haven't seen him on it for a long long time.

[sid waddell]

You can't say Trump doesn't believe in intersectionality

[sid waddell]

You didn't ask any question worthy of reply - but we have established your sneering contempt for the working class and students

Ordinary people and education are two things right-wingers generally despise, so your views are not at all surprising

Your idea of the working class includes rich brats paying for their crystal meth from their daddies' trust funds. And smelly "students" who wouldn't know a working class person if they bit them on the ass.


Education? LMAO.

All you can do at that response is laugh

That sort of sneering contempt and all consuming hatred for an imagined straw man cannot be healthy

The forum's Trump supporters are experiencing a vicious inner turmoil and are lashing out

[sid waddell]

You didn't ask any question worthy of reply - but we have established your sneering contempt for the working class and students

Ordinary people and education are two things right-wingers generally despise, so your views are not at all surprising

Your idea of the working class includes rich brats paying for their crystal meth from their daddies' trust funds. And smelly "students" who wouldn't know a working class person if they bit them on the ass.


Education? LMAO.

I actually follow some socialists and marxists on Twitter....you know, the types who firebomb police cruisers and spit it cops faces

Anyway there's  one girl who's father is a doctor in Boston and she grew up in a $2-3M house in Brookline, MA

She was a theater major, so I'm sure she's earning <$50K per year. I wonder if her "Brooklyn lifestyle" is being heavily subsidized by mammy and daddy

The plural of anecdote is not data.
The bottom 90% of Americans own 7% of the wealth. That's why socialism is making a comeback,

Also called freedom, liberty and common sense

[J70]

You can't say Trump doesn't believe in intersectionality

He'll have his own, personal, unique spot in US presidential history!

[RedHand88]

You can't say Trump doesn't believe in intersectionality

He'll have his own, personal, unique spot in US presidential history!

Also only president to lose 2 popular votes.

[five points]

You didn't ask any question worthy of reply - but we have established your sneering contempt for the working class and students

Ordinary people and education are two things right-wingers generally despise, so your views are not at all surprising

Your idea of the working class includes rich brats paying for their crystal meth from their daddies' trust funds. And smelly "students" who wouldn't know a working class person if they bit them on the ass.


Education? LMAO.

All you can do at that response is laugh

That sort of sneering contempt and all consuming hatred for an imagined straw man cannot be healthy

The forum's Trump supporters are experiencing a vicious inner turmoil and are lashing out

Of course I'm laughing. A degree in Microaggressions for example is not education, even if you're paying $25,000 a year for it.

Turmoil? But laughter. 

[sid waddell]

Is there any truth that the Trumps booked a garden centre instead of the Four Seasons hotel in Philly for a press conference?

Haha

That's not exactly what happened but it's close enough

Trumps people picked a place near the count center, but away from the Biden supporters  to hold the press conference-and that place was in fact the Garden Center

Trump must have misheard and tweeted out that they were holding it at the hotel, then deleted the tweet a few minutes later

One side of the garden center was a sex shop, and the other was a crematorium

So why did they pick that particular location? Has a real strong whiff of incompetence by team Trump

Not sure

Some of the reasons being bandied about

It is owned by a Trump supporter

It is in a Trump supporting neighborhood surrounded by neighborhoods surrounding Biden

There was a large contingent of Biden supporters already at the count center and so wanted to have a gathering as near as they could while at the same time  avoiding conflict

Either way it was a PR disaster

You'd have to wonder when he is going to see the light and jettison Giuliani, who has been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster for Trump.

Maybe Rudy has something on him. Or just feeds his needy ego in the right way.

The amount of kompromat must be off the scale

Trump is kompromised by Putin
Manafort is kompromised by Putin
Manafort is kompromised by Deripaska
Trump is kompromised by Manafort
Giuliani is kompromised by Trump
Trump is kompromised by Giuliani
Giuliani is kompromised by Derkach
Giuliani is kompromised by Manafort
Graham is kompromised by Trump
Graham is kompromised by Stone
Trump is kompromised by Sater
The FBI is kompromised by Sater
Trump is kompromised by Maxwell
Trump was kompromised by Epstein
Vance is kompromised by Kushner
Kushner is kompromised by Bin Salman
Kushner is kompromised by Netanyahu
The Republican party is kompromised by the NRA
The NRA is kompromised by Russia
Rohrabacher is kompromised by Russia
Johnson is kompromised by Russia
The Republican party is kompromised by Trump
Hannity is kompromised by Trump
Trump is kompromised by Mogilevich
Trump is kompromised by Rybolovlev
Trump is kompromised by Deutsche Bank
Deutsche Bank is kompromised by Putin
The CIA is kompromised by Lavrov
The CDC is kompromised by Trump

And on and on and on and on

To draw a diagram of all the kompromat would be dizzying

[sid waddell]

This is a very good thread by former conservative activist and journalist Matthew Sheffield

It eviscerates the right wing media bubble

Don't agree with every single thing in it but it is thought provoking

https://twitter.com/mattsheffield/status/1324997282870145024

As a former conservative activist and journalist, it has been so frustrating to see my former compatriots spreading wild and unchecked claims about "voter fraud."
@jacknicas of the NYT took a deep look at claims of "dead" people in Michigan voting. Link in next tweet.

While examining claims made by right-wing activists who are not credible individuals is a thankless task which elite media editors despise, this is vital and important work in this age of fake news. Here's the link:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/06/technology/false-dead-michigan-voter-claims.html

As the co-creator of NewsBusters, the most prominent anti-media website, I was part of a decades-long tradition of complaining about media elites being "unfair" to conservative views. There is still much to that argument, but eventually I saw that I was missing context.

What I did not realize until I began expanding my work into creating actual media and reporting institutions such as the Washington Examiner (I was the founding online editor) was that U.S. conservatives do not understand the purpose of journalism.

This became evident to me as I saw that conservative-dominated media outlets were MUCH more biased than outlets run by liberals. The latter had flaws that arose from a lack of diversities (note plural) but they operated mostly in good faith. That's not how the former operated.

I eventually realized that most people who run right-dominated media outlets see it as their DUTY to be unfair and to favor Republicans because doing so would some how counteract perceived liberal bias.

While I was enmeshed in the conservative media tradition, I viewed lefty media thinkers like @jayrosen_nyu as arguing that journalism was supposed to be liberally biased. I was wrong. I realized later that I didn't understand that journalism is supposed to portray reality.

This thought was phrased memorably by @StephenAtHome as "reality has a well-known liberal bias" which is an oversimplification but is more accurate than the conservative journalist view which is that media should promote and serve conservative politicians.

I also discovered as I rose through the right-wing media ranks that most conservative media figures have no journalism training or desire to fact-check their own side. I also saw so many ppl think that reporting of info negative to GOP pols was biased, even if it was true.

If you would like to get a great look at the tensions and origins of conservative journalism, there is a wonderful, fabulous book by my friend @pastpunditry which I cannot commend enough. My career was an updated version of what she chronicled.
https://www.amazon.com/Messengers-Right-Conservative-Transformation-American/dp/0812248392

People ask sometimes if conservative media figures like Sean Hannity or anyone associated with the Federalist could actually be so credulous as to believe unfounded and non-specific allegations of "voter fraud." But the reality is that they don't actually even think that far.

Truth for conservative journalists is anything that harms "the left." It doesn't even have to be a fact. Trump's numerous lies about any subject under the sun are thus justified because his deceptions point to a larger truth: that liberals are evil.

This assumption is behind all conservative media output. They never tell you what their actual motives are. Most center-left people don't realize just how radical many conservative elites are, largely because they don't wear it on their sleeves.

Just as a for-instance of this point, most people have no idea that the top two Trump White House figures, Mike Pence and Mark Meadows, think that biological evolution is a lie.

This is an extraordinarily dangerous viewpoint in light of the SARS2 coronavirus epidemic because the entirety of virology and epidemiology is based on evolution. If you think it's "fake" then you'll believe ludicrous nonsense like "herd immunity."

The same thing is happening with right-wing media and specious claims of voter fraud. Conservatives are willing to believe them even if there is no evidence, simply because anything negative about liberals is true. This mentality extends to the very highest ranks.

Newt Gingrich, William Bennett, and a bevvy of GOP elected officials have no problem parroting unverified rumors as fact because conservative journalism is not about supporting conservatives, not about finding facts.

I tried for over a decade to inculcate some standards of independence and professionalism among conservative writers but my efforts made me enemies, especially when I argued that the GOP should be neutral on religion instead of biased toward Christians.

I began work on a manuscript in 2012 fearing that Mitt Romney would lose his election because conservatives had not learned how politics actually works and that we should adapt to serve public needs and make peace with secular people.

I showed my manuscript to several people who I thought were my friends because I wanted to get the perspective of religious conservatives. Instead of helping me, some of them began trying to expel me from the conservative movement.

I eventually realized that many conservative activists were committed to identity rather than ideas. One of my friends literally told me in 2016 that he would support Cruz bc "that's what the Christians are doing."

We're at a critical moment in U.S. politics right now because the Christian identity politics that is the edifice of Republican electioneering is teetering. Millions of Americans have for decades thought that their countrymen are evil.

You can watch this play out right now on a television stage when you tune into Fox News as they cover the election. Fact-based journalists have finally realized that the identity rage of the GOP is going into a raging crescendo.

On an hourly basis now outside of the rage-filled lie-fests of primetime, Fox reporters are gently trying to explain to guests that they need actual evidence before accusing people of crimes. The guests, such as Gingrich, have NEVER been challenged like this on Fox.

Bret Baier, Chris Wallace, Martha MacCallum, and others are trying to save conservatism from itself. It's like watching a modern-day adaptation of Aeschylus or Sophocles. Sadly, the rest of us are not just spectators in this tragedy.

How American conservatism dies is the most important story, by far, of this moment. Conventional media will never tell this story because their business is built on the lie that Trump is an aberration rather than apotheosis. That NeverTrump is righteous rather than venal.

At the same time, the tens of millions of people who vote Republican are not deplorable. They are misled. And the mocking and tribalistic coverage that lefty media often engage in only makes things worse. Only love can defeat hate.

[sid waddell]

Reddit's /r/Conservative is one of the most populated American right-wing forums

Here's its guidelines

Is it any wonder American right-wingers are trapped in such a stagnant cesspool of redundant thought?

They're trained in a stifling atmosphere of censoriousness and crushing, overpowering right-wing political correctness

No debate allowed, only unthinking cheerleading

https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/wiki/index/whatrconisnot

What /r/Conservative Is Not

We are not a debate forum. We are not here to indulge you in your leftist views that history has proven wrong over and over again. We are not going to waste our time with you arrogantly telling us how wrong you think we are.

We are not a place for explanation. The Internet has this amazing feature called search engines, and we recommend you looking up what things are. This can happen instantly, rather than you typing out a question in a subreddit, and then waiting around to see if someone answers your question. We recommend DuckDuckGo

We are not a chatroom. If you look at our subreddit, it should become wildly obvious that we prefer article posts. All text posts are filtered for review, and only a small number get approved. They have to be extremely relevant, extremely interesting, or have so much potential, we can't ignore them.

We are not fair and balanced. We don't pretend to be unbiased. We don't pretend to give all commenters equal time. This is by conservatives and for conservatives. We are here to discuss conservative topics from a distinctly conservative point of view. If you don't like that it's not an unbiased forum, go ask why /r/politics is a leftist totalitarian state. Leftists and moderates have never been welcomed here. If you wander in here and spout nonsense or insult us, don't be surprised when we ban you almost instantly.

[whitey]

Sid-what are Joe's progressive policies going to do for the 700+ people who are going to be murdered in the city of Chicago this year?

[Eamonnca1]

Today in conservative education standards...

[Eamonnca1]

And i never thought I'd say this, but I think I want to hear more from this lady...



Compared to Trump's word salads, this is almost coherent.

[armaghniac]

Twitter allows people to make public eejits of themselves, when previously they only made eejits of themselves in their own localities.

[sid waddell]

Today in conservative education standards...

Reminds me of when David Quinn of the I Own Her Institute claimed there were 18,000 GPs (General Practitioners) in Ireland in 2018 after finding an internet link from 2008 which told him there were 18,000 GPS (Global Positioning System) locations mapped in Ireland

Right wingers are as dumb as a garden hoe