Sam Maguire Qualifiers 2022

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Derryman forever

Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 10, 2022, 06:27:03 AM
We would struggle with Derry's defence too.


What the  rte commentators and detractors of the Ulster final did not see, or appreciate, was how well organised Derry were in their defense. Donegal had very few options when they had worked their way to midfield.  Derry appear to have an instant reset button when they lose control of the ball.

Redhand Santa

I'd imagine the gaa will have a press release today regarding the quarter finals. I believe it will be an open draw as such but there can't be repeat pairing of teams from provincial finals and they'll try to avoid repeat pairings from earlier in the championship as well. That would rule out Galway getting Mayo or Kerry Cork.

Armagh18

Quote from: joemamas on June 10, 2022, 02:11:15 AM
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Quote from: balladmaker on June 09, 2022, 09:41:31 AM
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Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on June 08, 2022, 09:18:59 PM
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I'm hearing through the grapevine that HQ want the quarter-final draw to be the same outline as the semi-final draw, that is, Ulster v Connacht and Leinster v Munster, with winners of one province playing the beaten finalist in the other (same as the minor draw).

Meaning the draw is:

Derry v Roscommon or Clare, unless Monaghan or Tyrone beat Roscommon

Galway v Donegal or Armagh, unless Mayo beat Donegal

Dublin v Limerick or Cork , unless Meath beat Limerick

Kerry v Kildare or Mayo , unless Cork beat Kildare.


What happens if one or more of the "unless" things happens is anyone's guess at this stage - will see how it looks after this weekends games and the draw, I suppose.


Not sure if all that makes sense, but that's what I heard and want to get it out there before any conspiracy theories start.


Edit: I think I have the "unless" parts correct on avoiding repeat fixtures...remember beaten provincial finalist can't meet each other, so Donegal can't meet Roscommon so Donegal v Derry cannot recur, same way Galway and Roscommon cannot recur.  Edit 2: Likewise, Kildare can't meet Limerick.


Or am I getting my explanation all wrong?


Edit 3 to reflect June 4 results: Monaghan and Meath out.
Edit 4: Tyrone out
Edit 5:  Getting clearer now...


Meaning the draw is:

Derry v Roscommon or Clare

Galway v Donegal or Armagh

Dublin v Limerick or Cork

Kerry v Kildare or Mayo

Although latest story is they forgot to put this procedure in the overall plan for 2022, so it's looking like an open draw with no repeat pairings if possible.
Kerry, Dublin and Mayo all on one side of the draw? I really fancy our chances of getting to a final if we can get over Donegal.

Enough of that talk ... Galway, Derry well capable of taking out anyone on their day as well.  Laser focus on this Sunday and nothing else.
Lol a man can dream! Sunday is massive

Quoting Ciaran whelan on RTE on Mayo "struggling to break down defensive systems they are likely to come up against on that side of the draw."

Is it definitive that Q/final draw is pre ordained, or is that just rumor.
if this is the case, and winners of ;
Mayo V Kildare will play Kerry
Cork V Limerick play Dublin

Why would Mayo or Kildare show up in significant numbers to their game, in the knowledge that the winners of that will play Kerry and will be huge underdogs.
why would Cork v Limerick attract more than 2k, knowing that winners will definitely play Dublin and most likely get clobbered.

Surely the GAA cannot be that stupid.
If thats the attitude then why bother even entering a team- you're going to have to play the big boys eventually. Personally absolutely buzzing for Donegal on Saturday and would love to see Armagh playing one of the big boys down the line.

tiempo

Listening to a podcast this morning and remembered about the time the PUL community reps asked for the Olympic squad to be renamed Team UK (from Team GB), in doing so admitting they full well know they aren't British, and then followed it up by refusing to play groundball for said Team GB in the Olympics.

Total 💩 for brains.

You can't please these people and that will be their undoing.

seafoid

Quote from: Derryman forever on June 10, 2022, 06:54:03 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 10, 2022, 06:27:03 AM
We would struggle with Derry's defence too.


What the  rte commentators and detractors of the Ulster final did not see, or appreciate, was how well organised Derry were in their defense. Donegal had very few options when they had worked their way to midfield.  Derry appear to have an instant reset button when they lose control of the ball.
Derry were playing catenaccio hi.

Blowitupref

Two changes to the Mayo team from last weekend. Jason Doherty, Conor Loftus in for Aidan Orme and Bryan Walsh.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

rosnarun

Quote from: Armagh18 on June 10, 2022, 09:11:11 AM
Quote from: joemamas on June 10, 2022, 02:11:15 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 09, 2022, 10:15:23 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on June 09, 2022, 09:41:31 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 09, 2022, 09:26:09 AM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on June 08, 2022, 09:18:59 PM
Quote from: GAABoardMod5 on June 01, 2022, 02:04:47 AM
I'm hearing through the grapevine that HQ want the quarter-final draw to be the same outline as the semi-final draw, that is, Ulster v Connacht and Leinster v Munster, with winners of one province playing the beaten finalist in the other (same as the minor draw).

Meaning the draw is:

Derry v Roscommon or Clare, unless Monaghan or Tyrone beat Roscommon

Galway v Donegal or Armagh, unless Mayo beat Donegal

Dublin v Limerick or Cork , unless Meath beat Limerick

Kerry v Kildare or Mayo , unless Cork beat Kildare.


What happens if one or more of the "unless" things happens is anyone's guess at this stage - will see how it looks after this weekends games and the draw, I suppose.


Not sure if all that makes sense, but that's what I heard and want to get it out there before any conspiracy theories start.


Edit: I think I have the "unless" parts correct on avoiding repeat fixtures...remember beaten provincial finalist can't meet each other, so Donegal can't meet Roscommon so Donegal v Derry cannot recur, same way Galway and Roscommon cannot recur.  Edit 2: Likewise, Kildare can't meet Limerick.


Or am I getting my explanation all wrong?


Edit 3 to reflect June 4 results: Monaghan and Meath out.
Edit 4: Tyrone out
Edit 5:  Getting clearer now...


Meaning the draw is:

Derry v Roscommon or Clare

Galway v Donegal or Armagh

Dublin v Limerick or Cork

Kerry v Kildare or Mayo

Although latest story is they forgot to put this procedure in the overall plan for 2022, so it's looking like an open draw with no repeat pairings if possible.
Kerry, Dublin and Mayo all on one side of the draw? I really fancy our chances of getting to a final if we can get over Donegal.

Enough of that talk ... Galway, Derry well capable of taking out anyone on their day as well.  Laser focus on this Sunday and nothing else.
Lol a man can dream! Sunday is massive

Quoting Ciaran whelan on RTE on Mayo "struggling to break down defensive systems they are likely to come up against on that side of the draw."

Is it definitive that Q/final draw is pre ordained, or is that just rumor.
if this is the case, and winners of ;
Mayo V Kildare will play Kerry
Cork V Limerick play Dublin

Why would Mayo or Kildare show up in significant numbers to their game, in the knowledge that the winners of that will play Kerry and will be huge underdogs.
why would Cork v Limerick attract more than 2k, knowing that winners will definitely play Dublin and most likely get clobbered.

Surely the GAA cannot be that stupid.
If thats the attitude then why bother even entering a team- you're going to have to play the big boys eventually. Personally absolutely buzzing for Donegal on Saturday and would love to see Armagh playing one of the big boys down the line.
Exactly ,
there is also an insinuation there the GAA should fix the Draw to get Maximun crowds.
have people forgotten its sport at the end of the day ,
who care what size of a crowd is there other than the Croke park accountants . Had mayo won 2020 pandemic i would have been quite happy.
And yes a large part of it is the journey which is why mayo will bring the biggest crowd to croker saturday
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

rosnarun

jason and connor in for Orme and Walsh
Mayo (All-Ireland Qualifiers Round 2 v Kildare, 11/6/2022):
Rob Hennelly (Breaffy);
Lee Keegan (Westport), Oisín Mullin (Kilmaine), Enda Hession (Garrymore);
Paddy Durcan (Castlebar Mitchels), Stephen Coen (Hollymount/Carramore, captain), Eoghan McLaughlin (Westport);
Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy), Matthew Ruane (Breaffy); Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber), Jason Doherty (Burrishoole), Conor Loftus (Crossmolina Deel Rovers);
James Carr (Ardagh), Jack Carney (Kilmeena), Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber).
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

befair

Kildare must be a decent bet at 11/4

NotedObserver

Anyone take a one year old to croker before?

J70

Quote from: NotedObserver on June 10, 2022, 04:38:05 PM
Anyone take a one year old to croker before?

Can't get a babysitter?  :D

downtown

Quote from: NotedObserver on June 10, 2022, 04:38:05 PM
Anyone take a one year old to croker before?

I have , depends on the child . If child is happy enough to sit on ur knee you will be sound . If child likes to wreck about you won't see much of the game

IolarCoisCuain

Quote from: befair on June 10, 2022, 04:05:44 PM
Kildare must be a decent bet at 11/4

God, I don't know about that.

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

full moon

Shocking crowd can hear players talking is there even 10k in at it right now? People voting with their feet with the decision to put this in Croker

Mayo Chairman said there be 50 there lol. Price of petrol €2.20  and above today