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Anyone played the new add-in pack for GTA4 yet? Downloaded it overnight yesterday but couldn't justify not going to work today in order to have a look at it  Anyone else I spoke to has done the same.

Thebigfella

do you honestly think that these kids, and I use that term as that is all they are, are capable of making mature decisions for the sake of the child's welfare? do you think that at 13 and 15 they have the maturity to bring up a child? I dont, its hard enough to do it as a responsible adult, but as a child!!!

Personally I don't feel it's not mine our your decision to make whether they can cope; with the right support from family and social services they'll get by. Also she is not the first 15 year old girl to have a baby and cope. So why is it different this time?

It still isn't right to take away a child based on a mothers age and social class. If they cannot cope then you would expect the grandparents to step in and help. Failing that social services will have to be involved but there is no evidence from the news article indicating the child is at risk.

[Firstly the parents are too young to raise a child, the "father" may be 13, but he seems more like an 8 year old, what age is the mum? 15ish?]

Firstly the parents are too young to raise a child, the "father" may be 13, but he seems more like an 8 year old, what age is the mum? 15ish? She should be doing her homework and listening to boy bands not out sleeping around and forgetting to take the pill.

Yes I agree they're both too young but again "from the sun article" they didn't plan it (I like most people on here only know what was reported in the papers). She's not the first 15 year old girl on council estate to become pregnant and won't be the last. I think the issue is more how young the boy is/looks. If he was 15/16 and looked that age would we or "the sun" be sensationalising the story so much?

It would be different if both parents came from stable "normal" households, but they both seem to come from a long line of spongers who wouldn't know what a job was or how to apply for one.

So if they were from a nice middle class background, then they should be allowed to keep the baby?

These people are a blight on society. If that child is to have a chance in life he would need to be taken as far away from them as possible. They breed like rats while others pay for their plasma screen TVs and cans of Dutch Gold. They are scum, from a long line of scum, pure and simple. Sadly they are not confined to the UK, they are over here as well, look at any town in the UK and Ireland, teenage mums standing in queues for their handouts, with their new prams and kids decked out in Nike this and Fila that. This "couple" like their parents have hit the jackpot, the benefits jackpot.
Its like shameless, without the laughs.

Hardly constructive and the exact reaction "The Sun" would have wanted to create by sensationalising this story 

No harm to you lads, but I really find it highly offensive comparing these young children to disabled people, as to whether not they are or can be suitable parents! 

Fair enough, it wasn't supposed to be a direct comparison. Apologies if you took offence, we'll stop this now so we don't go down a road we shouldn't and offend anyone.

[should the child be taken into care?]

vaey sad alright, when that child is 5 and going to school they will be 18 and 20. Hope the child grows up in a loving environment.

should the child be taken into care?

Which one?

Good point Myles, the youngest of the three, surely there is no way that the parents can give the baby the upbringing that it deserves

I've only briefly glanced over the story but I can't believe how wrong you both are. What makes you believe they cannot give the baby the upbringing it deserves? What basis are you making this decision on? Social services would never do this as the baby is (apparently) in no danger and it wouldn't be in its best interests separate it from the parents anyway.

Yes they are very young and have no fixed income but i'm sure social services have been working with the families to make sure they can cope and have financial support. Taking children into care is always the last resort and usually occurs if they are in danger or neglected as it is very distressing for a child/children involved.

When you thinking of going? If it's round the summer check out Rio, it's an outdoor club(more like a park with loads of different outdoor bars) and full of the best looking girls you'll ever meeting in your life. I don't think I seen one average looking girls in the place, all complete babes. Bed is also worth checking out.

Olympic Handball, Synchronised swimming and rhythmic gymnastics.

That film 'Juno' has a lot to answer for!

Seriously, this is what it's going to, if there weren't welfare payments to support this "activity" then maybe you'd see less of it.

Come on now sure he wouldn't have been old enough to see it when he done the business  Plus I know 30 year old men getting less riding than that wee lad

Sure we may as well turn this thread into who we blame for this atrocity - tv, movies, computer games, government, the banks, Osama Bin Laden .....

Is there some issue with "flash player" that it does not support it ergo you cannot access "all of the internet", im sure there is enough on the old interweb to keep you going.......

Slightly misleading statement - I assume you can still connect to the site but just cannot render the objects/apps embedded on the page in flash

Flash is quite intensive on the old resources, thus not suitable for the iphone in it's current state, and the Apple have said the mobile version is not secure enough for them. It has been announced that Adobe are working on/completed a new version simply for the iphone/ipod touch. The problem is i'm not sure it will ever be allowed on the iphone due to the restrictions on the sdk/developer program. Essentially Flash is a development platform, so you would have it directly in competition with the Itunes app store and all the people currently developing for it would be extremely p***ed off having a free development platform competing directly against them.

bigfella, the ability to run background processes is to be a firmware update, but the current phone has limited cpu for this, the next version is *supposedly* improving on this.

Ill have a look see when the facts are released - like yourself i wont be upgrading simply to have the latest model which is no better.

Yeah the rumors are apple are going to be manufacturing their own chips for future versions too. Was it transmetta they purchased? They also hired one of the top IBM microprocessor guys too(eventually). Apple traditionally upgrade their products around the same times year after year, so I would expect it but snow leopard is due for release this year too and I would expect them to be focusing on getting it out after all the critisim for the delays to leopard due to the iphone.

lfdown2  - not sure the name of it. I know there are loads but you require the iphone to be jailbroken for most of them. I did see one in the app store but knowing apple they could have removed it.

I think the running processes in the background will be quite nice, certainly opens up a lot more scope on the app front. Some of the things we are looking at developing are dependent on this update.

You'll only get a free Iphone(8gig) if you sign up to a min 45 quid a month contract for 18 months, min 75 for the 16gig.

O2 are very strict on their discount policy on the Iphone - they don't offer them. When I upgraded they wouldn't offer me any discount even though i'd been a customer for years and spend a s*** load of money(i use teh phone on roaming and call international all the time). When I kicked off the offered me the same contract is was on free for 2 years and 3 upgrades to any other phone except the iphone within that 2 year period.

Personnally it's a great piece of kit - the apps and games are getting better all the time. As for the forwarding texts, you can already get an app to do that, so I wouldn't be surprised if thier is one forwarding business cards.

So i take it i could cancel in July, pay £99 for the 8GB I Phone and start a new contract?

If your an o2 customer they will still charge the upgrade fee and then you go onto an 18 month contract. Same as if you become a new O2 customer.

As for rumors of the new iphone - they'll offer a chance for people to upgrade within contract like they did with the 3g. Its like any apple product, you'll never buy it if you wait for each and every upgrade based on rumors. Personnally there would need to be major hardware charges for me to consider upgrading at the moment; remember lots of the features people want are all software upgrades - these will become available in firmware updates to whatever iphone you have.

You'll only get a free Iphone(8gig) if you sign up to a min 45 quid a month contract for 18 months, min 75 for the 16gig.

O2 are very strict on their discount policy on the Iphone - they don't offer them. When I upgraded they wouldn't offer me any discount even though i'd been a customer for years and spend a s*** load of money(i use teh phone on roaming and call international all the time). When I kicked off the offered me the same contract is was on free for 2 years and 3 upgrades to any other phone except the iphone within that 2 year period.

Personnally it's a great piece of kit - the apps and games are getting better all the time. As for the forwarding texts, you can already get an app to do that, so I wouldn't be surprised if thier is one forwarding business cards.

Easy with the patronising there big fella  .
I have been told by numerous people - not just in the trade - to avoid Samsung fridges (I have been told their product support is terrible also), it is little to do with brand snobbery as I always assumed Samsung to be a high calibre brand up til recently.

Apologies it wasn't supposed to come across that way.

While Watchdog did devote a whole program to the Samsung fridge and the fridge probably was a load of crap (or more likely the people who had issues received bad customer support), I would never take the word of a sales guy in a shop. Not related to fridges though, I once had a sales guy in PC World tell me he used to be employed by Microsoft while trying to impress me to get a sale. I told him it was a bit of a come down working in PC World, don't think he was impressed.

Personally I take reviews on forums like moneysavingexpert.com with a pinch of salt. Usually they are made up of disgruntled customers who believe they have received bad support or should have been given free money or products just because they complained.

Keith

Fell in with Albert one night and met the following.

Good -
Philip Albert (thanks for the drinks)
Shearer (sort of ok)
John Barnes
Beardsley
Lee Clark

Complete and Utter T*** -
Gillespie