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#1
From what I can gather from this, the Vatican has finally given up previous ecumenical moves to settle Church differences in favour of welcoming Anglicans (and their priests) into the Catholic Church. Once there they will be able to retain their own 'Anglican ehtos' a bit like the Eastern rite churches that are currently in communion with Rome - a church within a church if you like. It's actually a fairly revolutionary move by the Pope, on a par with the freeing of the Tridentine Mass with his 'Motu Proprio' a few years ago. He is welcoming the traditionalists back on the one hand and now what could be described as the liberals on the other. Some estimate there are about half a million mostly English Anglicans ready to move straight over into the Catholic Church. Needless to say the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams (and presumably the English Queen) is not very happy -- the letter he has sent to his bishops is below the story below. Can't see too many northern CofI moving over but will probably be quite a few in the south.


Vatican welcome to Anglicans boldest move since Reformation
The Vatican on Tuesday opened the way for Anglican communities to switch allegiance en masse. Hundreds of thousands of Anglicans angry over the church's liberal stance on women and gays may convert.

Vatican City - The Vatican launched an historic initiative Tuesday to make it easier for disgruntled Anglicans worldwide to join the Roman Catholic Church. The church said the move was not a swipe at the Anglicans but it could nevertheless result in hundreds of thousands of churchgoers unhappy with openly gay and female clerics defecting to Rome.

Pope Benedict XVI gave his approval to a new framework to bring back into the fold Anglicans who oppose their church's liberal stance on gay marriage and the ordination of women priests and gay bishops while allowing them to retain some of their separate religious traditions.

The move comes nearly 500 years after Henry VIII's desire for a divorce led him to break with Rome and proclaim himself as the head of the newly formed Church of England in 1534. The framework is the Vatican's most sweeping gesture toward any schismatic church since the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century and the Thirty Years' War that followed it in the 17th century. That war ended with the Peace of Westphalia in 1648, which acknowledged the right of monarchs rather than the Vatican to determine their national faiths, prompting Pope Innocent X to declare the document "null, void, invalid, iniquitous, unjust, damnable, reprobate, inane, empty of meaning and effect for all time."

Over the centuries, relations between the various Christian faiths have improved and both Anglican and Catholic leaders were at pains on Tuesday to say that warming relations between the two churches will not be affected by the new plan. But both churches have been struggling to retain adherents in recent years, particularly in the developed world, with poorer countries their only growth spots.

Individual Anglicans have long been free to convert to Catholicism, as former British prime minister Tony Blair did after leaving office in 2007. But the so-called Apostolic Constitution will enable entire Anglican communities to transfer their allegiance en masse.

The pope was responding to "numerous requests to the Holy See from groups of Anglican clergy and faithful in various parts of the world who want to enter into full and visible communion" with the Catholic Church, Cardinal William Joseph Levada told a news conference. He is the American head of the Vatican's doctrinal body.

Vatican officials declined to say how many of the world's 77 million Anglicans might take the opportunity to convert to Catholicism.

Anglican conservatives

The Traditional Anglican Communion, a vocal group of 400,000 conservatives who split from the Anglican Communion in 1991, are expected to move towards Rome.

"We have had requests from large groups, in the hundreds," said Cardinal Levada. "If I had to say a number of bishops, I would say it's in the twenties or thirties."

His American colleague, Archbishop Joseph Di Noia, Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, said after the press conference that he believed the number of bishops ready to convert was closer to 50.

They would come from the United States, Australia, and the island nations of the Pacific, he said.

Cardinal Levada was asked whether the Vatican's new policy weakened the Anglican Church's standing.

"I would not dare to make a comment on that. After the long years of the British Empire, and the work of Anglican missionaries, the Anglican Communion is a diverse and very varied worldwide communion."

Under the new constitution, married Anglican priests will be allowed to enter the Catholic Church but will not be ordained as bishops.

Will African Anglicans move?

The initiative was in response to years of lobbying by Anglicans who had become disenchanted with Anglican liberalism, a dissatisfaction which reached a crisis point in 2004 when the Episcopal Church in the United States ordained the first openly gay bishop, Gene Robinson of New Hampshire.

That move and other liberal shifts, such as a Canadian diocese's willingness to bless same-sex unions, have been fiercely opposed by more conservative Anglicans, particularly in Africa.

The new framework was announced simultaneously in Rome and in London, where the head of the Church of England, Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, said he did not see the Vatican move as "an act of aggression." (Read a Monitor profile of the archbishop here.)

Neither was it a vote of no confidence in the Anglican Church, he said, but a sign of maturity and understanding between the two faiths.

But Vatican commentators described it as a blow to the Anglican Communion. "For people who harbor the vision of Anglican unity, this will be a great disappointment," said Vatican analyst Francis X Rocca, of the Religion News Service.

"But it may also help to let off steam within the Anglican Church. If disaffected traditionalists leave, then they will lower the tensions over issues like gay marriage and women clergy."

Vatican expert John Allen of the National Catholic Reporter wrote in a blog post that while the opening by the Vatican had long been rumored, some Catholics feared "potentially negative repercussions in relations with the Anglican Communion – whose leadership might see it as 'poaching.'"



Rowan Williams letter:

The Vatican has announced today that PopeBenedict XVI has approved an 'Apostolic Constitution' (a formal papal decree) which will make some provision for groups of Anglicans (whether strictly members of continuing Anglican bodies or currently members of the Communion) who wish to be received into communion with the See of Rome in such a way that they can retain aspects of Anglican liturgical and spiritual tradition.

I am sorry that there has been no opportunity to alert you earlier to this;  I was informed of the planned announcement at a very late stage, and we await the text of the Apostolic Constitution itself and its code of practice in the coming weeks. But I thought I should let you know the main points of the response I am making in our local English context– in full consultation with Roman Catholic bishops in England and Wales – in the hope of avoiding any confusion or misrepresentation.
#2
Was wondering if anyone could help me with this as I find it all a bit strange, but could be just different way peelers handle these things in each jurisdiction.

The brother-in-law was going down a road the other day with a trailer and work gear in tow and spotted a boy coming towards him driving a bit erratically and at speed. Yer man didn't seem to be making an attempt to slow down, so our fella slows down to a near stop and pulls in towards the verge a bit. Yer man side swipes him and manages to stop 25 yards down the road and our fella is forced off the road and into a ditch with a broken axle (not impressed as it's a 4x4 he uses for work spent a good few pound getting her fixed the other week) but no personal injuries to him.

Anyway yer man gets out eventually and denies all responsibility and our fella rings for the long necks. Three of them arrive a little later and don't actually do anything. Our fella explains what happened and they say he'll have to work it out with the other fella. Our boy asks them to do breathalyser tests and they say "no, we don't do them". He asks them to check yer mans mobile phone to see if he had been making calls at the time, and they said "no, we can't do that". Before they drive off he asks them are they not going to take any photos and they say "no, we don't do that". He asks them if they will measure the skid marks on the road and they say "no, we don't have a tape measure". "Well I've one here", our boy says and they begrudgingly get out of their motor and measure them - yer mans at over 25 yards and our boys at at a couple.  

Now I know, peelers on both side of the border are now trying to avoid getting involved when there is no injury, but I know in the north, the first thing they will do is breathalyse both parties, get the tape measure out and take pictures, if they are called to the scene of an accident. What's the story in Mexico?
#3
Over 400,000 on Live Register
CHARLIE TAYLOR

The number of people signing on the Live Register rose by 13,500 to more than 400,000 last month, accoring to new figures from the Central Statistics Office (CSO).

The standardised unemployment rate in May was 11.8 per cent compared 11.4 per cent in April and 7.7 per cent at the end of December 2008.

At the end of May there were 402,100 people on the register, compared to 388,600 in April. During the month 8,800 men and 4,700 women joined the register.

In the year to May, there was a 96.7 per cent rise in the number of people on the register as 195,115 more people signed on. This compares with an unadjusted increase of 188,850 or 96.6 per cent a year earlier.

The estimated number of casual and part-time workers on the Live Register in May was 35,588 males and 30,590 females.
#4
General discussion / The emperor has no clothes
May 29, 2009, 11:48:51 AM
For the past two days everywhere I go they're say the weather is great. A builder told me half an hour ago that he loves working outside at this time of year. The weather girls are saying it's the best of the year so far. On the radio they're talking about the pretty girls out sunbathing. Well I don't know where they're living but on my island it's been fecking overcast for two days and now it's raining. I suppose if you want to spot me in Clones on Sunday, I'll be the one sitting under the rain cloud soaked to the skin.
#5
Have spotted a few properties in the Mourne area that I'd be interested in but I'm not clued into the complexities of the planning laws. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The first property is a smallholding with a disused farmhouse and outbuildings. The house is in a bad state of repair and is a little small, so if I was renovating it would almost be a complete rebuild with an extension. Even though I'm not from the area, would it be likely that I could knock and rebuild, or would I just have to renovate whatever is already there?

The second property is a ruined cottage again on a smallholding. The cottage beyond salvaging - no roof and only three walls. What's my chances of getting planning permission for a new build?

The third is a fairly well maintained wee cottage on a smallholding. This only has one bedroom and is way to small for our needs. What would my options be here i.e. could I knock it and build another or would I be restricted to extending?

On a general point, if I was to renovate one of these, what sort of time are you talking before I get a decision on outline planning permission?

#6
General discussion / The 'unionist minority'
May 14, 2009, 09:14:49 AM
I had the SDLP at my door last night trying to convince me that I should get out to the polling station for this election and give them a preference as they are sure the potential is there for a second nationalist seat (well they would say that). While we know the Protestant population has been in the minority for some time, this has yet to reflected in the unionist voting patterns. Personally I'd have thought we were still three years away from the end of the unionist majority, but the SDLP seem to be conviced an increase of nationalist turnout (unlikely at the moment - esp without Duffy to shake things up) and the participation of the TUV could mean unionism won't get the two quotas. While the Stoops are playing a dangerous game i.e. unionist turnout could increase if this line gets widespread media attention, if true it would mean that unionism will be in the minority in the six counties for the first time since partition.   
#7
General discussion / The New Arrivals Thread
May 06, 2009, 10:59:23 AM
Boolerhead Mel's wife had a new baby boy this morning. Obviously the "bottle of Buckie and 12 Tennants and 40 Snouts" hasn't had an adverse affect on his swimmers. Congrats...
#8
At the weekend a number of children from St Comgalls on a fund raising 'bag pack' at the Tesco supermarket in Antrim town where told to remove their club jerseys by the manager after a complaint by a local unionist Councillor. St Comgalls have done phenomenally well over the past few years. Coming from a situation in 2004 when the club was almost wound-up after the local council did not come through with a promise to find them a permanent home, they now have football teams competing at all underage levels, are well on their way to re-establishing their hurling and camogie teams and have convinced the County Board to bring the new Centre of Excellence to their Dunsilly site.

The Ulster Council has been extremely proactive in recent years at demonstrating it's willingness to help improve community relations in the north but if real progress is ever to be made, the bigotry displayed by this Councillor need to be challenged at every turn. It is also a particularly galling that it is the largest food retailer in Ireland that is the one to banish the GAA from their Antrim store, considering that Tescos are more than happy to continually overcharge their customers in the south to the extent that their profits margins there are currently the company's highest in the world. It's about time these multinationals started supporting the communities from which they make their profits instead of bowing down to the local bigots trying to keep us wedded to the past.

I for one would like to know what the GAA and our new President Christy Cooney will be doing to ensure that the children of St Comgalls get the apology they deserve and what Tescos will be doing to ensure their local managers don't give in to the loyalist backwoods men in future. I'd encourage everyone here to contact the Ulster Council and the GAA to ensure this matter is pursued with Tescos in both jurisdictions.

If anyone has contact details for the GAA Ard Chomhairle please post them here but meanwhile the GAA.ie website lists the following email addresses:

queries@gaa.ie
marketing@gaa.ie

The Ulster Council can be contacted here:
8-10 Market Street
Armagh
Co Armagh
BT61 7BX
T: 028 (048) 3752 1900
F: 028 (048) 3752 8092
E: info@ulster.gaa.ie


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8024732.stm
#9
Well it probably is but sure why not, one more won't make much difference  :-\
#10
Bolivian police shoot dead Irish man over alleged plot to kill president

Suspects from Hungary and Croatia, as well as Ireland, suspected of attempting to assassinate president Evo Morales

Police uncovered an alleged plot to assassinate Evo Morales.

Police in Bolivia have shot dead three men, including one identified by local officials as an Irish national, over an alleged plot to assassinate the country's president, Evo Morales.

The three were shot during a fierce gun battle after police uncovered an apparent plot which involved suspects believed to come from countries including Hungary and Croatia, as well as Ireland, government officials said yesterday.

Police attempted to arrest a group of men in the centre of Santa Cruz, an eastern Bolivian city and hub of anti-Morales sentiment, but they fled to a hotel where the shootout took place around 4am (9am BST), witnesses and police said.

The alleged assassins detonated a grenade inside the hotel, blowing out its windows during the gunfight, according to police.

Three of the suspects, identified by state media as Hungarian, Irish and Bolivian nationals, were killed. A second Hungarian was arrested, along with a retired Bolivian soldier who had fought in conflicts in Yugoslavia in the 1990s, state prosecutor Jorge Gutiérrez said.

Police said they had foiled the assassination attempt after a raid on a storage facility uncovered explosives, high-calibre telescopic weapons and what appeared to be travel plans for Morales' motorcade, police commander Victor Hugo Escobar told reporters.

Police claimed the group was also responsible for a failed dynamite attack on the home of Santa Cruz's Roman Catholic cardinal, Julio Terrazas, on Wednesday. Why a group of alleged anti-Morales assassins would attack Terrazas, a known supporter of the president's opponents, remained unclear.

Morales said he had learned of the plot against him and the vice-president, Alvaro García, in recent days and ordered the men's arrest on Wednesday.

"I gave the vice-president and the commander of the national police instructions to stage an operation and detain those mercenaries," Morales told journalists in Venezuela, where he was attending a conference.

A statement from the president's office said the alleged assassins included Croatian and Irish nationals, along with members of Bolivia's "far right". It said other cells of the same group still exist in Bolivia and said police would continue to seek them out.

Santa Cruz's governor, Ruben Costas, told reporters that local police were not involved in the arrests and suggested the alleged assassination plot was staged to discredit his government. "The government for three years has repeated allegations of a coup but has never shown any evidence," he said. Costas is one of four governors who have sought autonomy for their provinces.

Morales has accused Costas of encouraging anti-government violence after rioters seized state buildings to block a vote on a new constitution last September. Eleven people died in the skirmishes and a UN report found the president's political opponents responsible.

Morales ejected the US ambassador and Drug Enforcement Administration from the country after accusing American diplomats of supporting the opposition. He also claimed the US organised groups to assassinate him, a charge Washington denies.
#11
General discussion / DVD duplicaiton
April 01, 2009, 11:26:31 AM
Need about 500 dual layer DVDs made, ideally with some printing on the disc and insets for the case. Anyone know anyone who does this or the kind of money you're talking?
#12
General discussion / Irish Times Archives
March 31, 2009, 03:33:21 PM
The Irish Times are providing free access to their archives going back to 1859 all week:

http://www.irishtimes.com/search/archive.html

Fascinating stuff. Just found my namesake from the same parish on trial for murder in the 1870s.  :o
#14
Considering the amount of people that were on the demo on Saturday, I doubt many people got to see Gerry A attempting to cosy up to his former comrades in Official Sinn Fein, the Workers Party, Democratic Left, Labour at the SF Ard Fheis. Certainly if you read any of Sir Tony O'Reilly's rags you'll not know anything about it, but that's another story.

Anyhow, regardless of your political sympathies, it looks as though the "economic illiterates" may be finally attempting to mark out some territory for themselves as a left alternative in Irish politics. In summary, after attacking "Tweedledum" and "Tweedledee" (FF and FG), the bearded one called for a new alliance of the left, including Labour, SF and the Greens (after they come to their senses).

A few years ago this would have been fanciful stuff but given the circumstances of the day, such a coalition it's not beyond the realms of possibility. My personal view is that Irish society is not yet ready for such an alternative. We've always been a country of conservative peasants and the Celtic Tiger has only caused more people to abandon the idea of society for notions of what the economy can do for them in particular. So my question is would you support an alliance of leftist parties over the cronyism and nepotism of the conservative establishment?
#15
Just got a text from one of the boys to say they've been found not guilty on all charges.



http://www.eirigi.org/campaigns/stormont_accused.htm
Stormont Accused Need Your Support


Case Update

Cormac Ryan, Dominic McGlinchey and Scott MastersonSince being charged in May 2006 the case of the Stormont accused has been before the courts on up to a dozen occasions. On each occasion the RUC-PSNI and the Crown Prosecution Service have failed to produce any evidence to support the charges that have been brought against Scot Masterson, Cormac Ryan and Dominic McGlinchey.

This failure of the RUC-PSNI to disclose the nature of the alleged evidence against the three men has caused even the judge to question whether any such evidence actually exists. On three separate occasions, most recently on Friday 19th October, the courts have instructed the RUC-PSNI and the CPS to fully disclose all supposed 'evidence' to the men's defence team.

The courts have also instructed that the prosecution subpoena all video and audio recordings of the Stormont protest that may be in the possession of broadcast media that were present on the day in question. To date neither of these instructions have been complied with.

Background to Case

On the morning of May 8, 2007, three members of éirígí, Cormac Ryan, Dominic McGlinchey and Scott Masterson, were assaulted and arrested by the RUC/PSNI outside Stormont Castle, Belfast.

The three were taking part in a peaceful protest, organised by the Belfast Anti-War Movement, aimed at highlighting the hypocrisy of British war-criminal Tony Blair claiming to be a 'man of peace' in Ireland, while simultaneously directing the brutal occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. Blair was in Stormont to oversee the official re-establishment of the Six-County assembly.

As the protest got underway, the RUC/PSNI responded, by violently attacking the demonstrators.

Despite provocation, the protesters remained peaceful throughout the attack. During the course of the onslaught the three éirígí activists were arrested and later charged with a string of violent offences. These charges include Assault, Causing Actual Bodily Harm, Assaulting a Police Officer, Riotous Behaviour, Disorderly Behaviour and Resisting Arrest.

Cormac Ryan gave an account of the day.

RUC/PSNI assaulting anti-war activists"We had traveled to Stormont at the invitation of the Belfast Anti-War Movement and the atmosphere was pretty relaxed until the RUC decided to attack what was, an unquestionably peaceful demonstration.

"In the course of the attack I was assaulted and carried by several cops to a nearby land-rover, where I was held with the others until we were transported to a barrack to be interrogated.

"Scott and myself were held overnight and faced court for the first time the next morning, where bail at an incredibly high level was set.

Cormac continued: "I can't stress enough the importance of winning this case – not just from our own point of view but in the interests of defending the right to peaceful protest in the Six-Counties."

The arrests and the propaganda surrounding them were clearly an attempt to deflect attention away from the heavy-handed actions of the RUC/PSNI on the day.

On a personal level, the demands of the case, including extensive travel, have had a detrimental impact on all three men, but most particularly Scott and Dominic both of whom have young children.

It is of critical importance that the right of members of the public to engage in peaceful protest without the fear of suffering state violence is defended. It is unacceptable that state forces can, with total impunity, use violence against those engaged in legitimate protest.

RUC/PSNI intimidatory tacticsThe British state has a long history of bringing politically motivated, false charges against Irish republicans. The case of the three accused is a contemporary example which cannot be allowed to proceed unopposed.

Whilst Blair, and now Gordon Brown, preach about bringing 'democracy' to Iraq and Afghanistan, their own state forces are given carte blanche to stamp out peaceful protest in Ireland.

The Stormont accused need the support of all those who oppose state violence and political policing.


#16
General discussion / Brand Cuba
January 06, 2009, 11:37:49 AM
A very good documentary broadcast on the BBC World Service on how Cuba has established itself on the world stage since the revolution. The second part covering the Cuban involvement in Angola in opposition to the apartheid regime in South Africa and their so called "medical diplomacy" (they have more doctors in the field that the WHO) is particularly interesting: 

Part 1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2008/12/081229_brand_cuba_one.shtml

Part 2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2008/12/090102_brand_cuba_two.shtml
#17
An Uachtarán na hÉireann, Máire Pádraigín Bean Mhic Ghiolla Íosa, hosted a series of lectures in the Áras over Christmas on the topic of being Irish in modern Ireland. Broadcast on RTE radio last week, this is the first one by Martin O'Neill:

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/1231/martinoneillpresidentiallecture_av.html

#18
General discussion / Mise Éire (TG4)
December 29, 2008, 10:55:04 PM
A pity that this film has been allowed to fall into such a poor state of repair. I know Gael Linn hold the rights to it but surely a documentary of such national and historical importance should be preserved by the state?
#19
'Thoughtless' Dido criticised over IRA rebel song on new album

By Mail On Sunday Reporter   ::)
Last updated at 11:35 PM on 06th December 2008


Dido has included a verse from a Republican protest song on one of her new tracks

As one of pop music's golden girls, she has amassed a £10million fortune from her catchy yet inoffensive songs.

But one of the tracks on Dido's latest album takes a surprisingly political twist, and is likely to upset some fans.

The singer, whose late father was of Irish descent, has included in it a verse from a Republican protest song once banned by the BBC.

In Let's Do The Things We Normally Do, Dido (real name Florian Cloud De Bounevialle O'Malley Armstrong) sings lines from The Men Behind The Wire, a rebel tune written 30 years ago in tribute to the provisional IRA men interned in the Seventies.  ::)

The song, penned by Paddy McGuigan, a member of the Barleycorn folk band from the infamous Falls Road in Belfast, is now associated with extreme republican movements such as Continuity IRA and the Real IRA:o

The lines borrowed by Dido include: 'Armoured cars and tanks and guns, Came to take away our sons, But every man must stand behind, The men behind the wire.'

Last night, the use of the lyrics on Safe Trip Home, the singer's third album, was described as 'thoughtless' and an insult to those whose families had suffered at the hands of the IRA.

Gregory Campbell, MP for East Londonderry and Minister for Sports, Arts and Leisure in the Belfast devolved government, said: 'Given her Irish roots, it is inconceivable that she doesn't know the background of the wording.

'She must know it was written about people who were murderers, arsonists and terrorists::)

'She should clarify her position so that her fans and the wider public knows where she stands on these things.'

Dido's new album is said to have been inspired in part by the death in 2006 of her father William O'Malley Armstrong, a publishing executive.

Though he was born in Pakistan, his mother Maeve was an Irish Catholic and his father Alfred was an Ulster Protestant, and he was educated in English Catholic schools.

Dido has previously said in interviews that many of her earliest childhood memories are of traditional Irish songs that her father used to sing to her and her brother Rollo as children every night.

Rollo, 42, himself a musician, collaborated on the new album.
#20
General discussion / Tridentine Mass
November 16, 2008, 03:23:24 AM
The wife would go every week and I'd go to the Novus Ordo (normal/modern/ordinary), mostly for the sake of the kids. But I was wondering what the rest of ye thought of it.

For those who don't know much about it, a Tridentine Mass is the old Latin version that was used before VaticanII. Ever since then, there're a few societies that keep the tradition going but they're shunned by the established church. The present Pope put a thing out the other year called a 'Motu Proprio' which basically said it's okay to have the old Mass and all Bishops should make arrangements for those that want to attend. However in reality, most Bishops are quite hostile and in most cases won't allow the Mass to be said in their churches, to the extent that in Belfast at the moment if you want a Latin Mass of a Sunday, you have  to attend in the back storeroom of a shop on the Andytown Road.

Now even though I'm a sceptical/non-believer, I'd still defend the right of others to practice and I reckon the way Catholic Church treats members of its own community in this way is nothing short of scandalous.