FBD 2024

[Syferus]

In fairness Douglas is a free kick specialist a lot of the time. No quick solutions to Mayo's problems up front. And with AOS, Andy and Cillian O'Connor there there's not much quickness in the feet either..

[larryin89]

In fairness Douglas is a free kick specialist a lot of the time. No quick solutions to Mayo's problems up front. And with AOS, Andy and Cillian O'Connor there there's not much quickness in the feet either..

It is quite amazing though how a team with such massive problems and no solutions can force the best team of all time to a replay for the last two years.

[Itchy]

In fairness Douglas is a free kick specialist a lot of the time. No quick solutions to Mayo's problems up front. And with AOS, Andy and Cillian O'Connor there there's not much quickness in the feet either..

It is quite amazing though how a team with such massive problems and no solutions can force the best team of all time to a replay for the last two years.

Best team of all time?

[Syferus]

In fairness Douglas is a free kick specialist a lot of the time. No quick solutions to Mayo's problems up front. And with AOS, Andy and Cillian O'Connor there there's not much quickness in the feet either..

It is quite amazing though how a team with such massive problems and no solutions can force the best team of all time to a replay for the last two years.

In fairness Spillane and Bomber are getting on a bit now. Even we would take the to a replay the morning after a night in Rockford's.

[larryin89]

Of course the present Dublin team are the best team of all time. What team would beat them from the past? None. Fitness, strength and conditioning , speed , it's a different world. Anyway that's just an argument that can go on and on and all sorts brought into it.


So I'll change the point I was making to if Mayo have so many problems and no solutions how can they be getting so close to beating the champions of the last two years?

[From the Bunker]

Of course the present Dublin team are the best team of all time. What team would beat them from the past? None. Fitness, strength and conditioning , speed , it's a different world. Anyway that's just an argument that can go on and on and all sorts brought into it.


So I'll change the point I was making to if Mayo have so many problems and no solutions how can they be getting so close to beating the champions of the last two years?

Our problems are not our forwards. Well not totally! Our problem is a decent subs bench! We have a good to great 12-15 players. There are not many options after that.

If we went to extra time in the replay we would have been hammered out the gate. While Dublin were bringing on solid players coming into the last quarter. We did not have the same quality of options. Tactics will get you so far in such a situation. This is no problem against the other counties bar Kerry/Dublin.

That's the standard at the Top table. 

[seafoid]

Of course the present Dublin team are the best team of all time. What team would beat them from the past? None. Fitness, strength and conditioning , speed , it's a different world. Anyway that's just an argument that can go on and on and all sorts brought into it.


So I'll change the point I was making to if Mayo have so many problems and no solutions how can they be getting so close to beating the champions of the last two years?

Our problems are not our forwards. Well not totally! Our problem is a decent subs bench! We have a good to great 12-15 players. There are not many options after that.

If we went to extra time in the replay we would have been hammered out the gate. While Dublin were bringing on solid players coming into the last quarter. We did not have the same quality of options. Tactics will get you so far in such a situation. This is no problem against the other counties bar Kerry/Dublin.

That's the standard at the Top table.

Scoring forwards are Mayo's Aughrim. If ye had players who could put daylight between Mayo and the teams that win, the agony would be over. Mayo need to score 2-14 to win all Irelands.

[Captain Obvious]

Of course the present Dublin team are the best team of all time. What team would beat them from the past? None. Fitness, strength and conditioning , speed , it's a different world. Anyway that's just an argument that can go on and on and all sorts brought into it.


So I'll change the point I was making to if Mayo have so many problems and no solutions how can they be getting so close to beating the champions of the last two years?

the good Dublin teams of the 70s would probably be better if they were exposed to the same training, fitness, strength and conditioning of today.

Plenty of teams have been close to beating Dublin in All Ireland finals since 1977 Kerry in the 00s have been far more convincing in finals Tyrone and Galway also.

Mayo need to find their 2013 form in 2017 however if 2013 happens to be their peak well the the boat could have sailed for this group of players.

[Cunny Funt]

Of course the present Dublin team are the best team of all time. What team would beat them from the past? None. Fitness, strength and conditioning , speed , it's a different world. Anyway that's just an argument that can go on and on and all sorts brought into it.


So I'll change the point I was making to if Mayo have so many problems and no solutions how can they be getting so close to beating the champions of the last two years?

Our problems are not our forwards. Well not totally! Our problem is a decent subs bench! We have a good to great 12-15 players. There are not many options after that.

If we went to extra time in the replay we would have been hammered out the gate. While Dublin were bringing on solid players coming into the last quarter. We did not have the same quality of options. Tactics will get you so far in such a situation. This is no problem against the other counties bar Kerry/Dublin.

That's the standard at the Top table.

Scoring forwards are Mayo's Aughrim. If ye had players who could put daylight between Mayo and the teams that win, the agony would be over. Mayo need to score 2-14 to win all Irelands.

How many teams in the last 20 years needed to score 20 points to win All Ireland final? If you do then clearly you have bigger problems at the other end of the field.

While many have the opinion that Mayo were more tuned in defensively last season yet when it came to the crunch three goals were given away in the two finals. Those errors were killers.

[seafoid]

Of course the present Dublin team are the best team of all time. What team would beat them from the past? None. Fitness, strength and conditioning , speed , it's a different world. Anyway that's just an argument that can go on and on and all sorts brought into it.


So I'll change the point I was making to if Mayo have so many problems and no solutions how can they be getting so close to beating the champions of the last two years?

Our problems are not our forwards. Well not totally! Our problem is a decent subs bench! We have a good to great 12-15 players. There are not many options after that.

If we went to extra time in the replay we would have been hammered out the gate. While Dublin were bringing on solid players coming into the last quarter. We did not have the same quality of options. Tactics will get you so far in such a situation. This is no problem against the other counties bar Kerry/Dublin.

That's the standard at the Top table.

Scoring forwards are Mayo's Aughrim. If ye had players who could put daylight between Mayo and the teams that win, the agony would be over. Mayo need to score 2-14 to win all Irelands.

How many teams in the last 20 years needed to score 20 points to win All Ireland final? If you do then clearly you have bigger problems at the other end of the field.

While many have the opinion that Mayo were more tuned in defensively last season yet when it came to the crunch three goals were given away in the two finals. Those errors were killers.

The backs are fine. They win the all stars. The forwards don't.
Mayo are too dependent on OConnor scoring his frees because the other 5 are not chipping in with enough scores.

[moysider]

Lets take a top for ward like Conor McManus and stick him in the Mayo team in an AI final v Dublin. My guess is that the Dubs would put Philly and a friend on him and he would do well to get a point or 2 from play.

Or course in earlier games against a Roscommon or a Galway he would kill them.

The days of Padraig Joyce scoring 10 points in an AI final are gone with modern defensive systems. No point looking at old cures that dont work anymore.

[Itchy]

Lets take a top for ward like Conor McManus and stick him in the Mayo team in an AI final v Dublin. My guess is that the Dubs would put Philly and a friend on him and he would do well to get a point or 2 from play.

Or course in earlier games against a Roscommon or a Galway he would kill them.

The days of Padraig Joyce scoring 10 points in an AI final are gone with modern defensive systems. No point looking at old cures that dont work anymore.

That would free up o Connor to do damage. Also, I hate to say it but not too many teams keep McManus to 2 points whether he is double or treble marked. Best forward in Ireland in my opinion.

[Syferus]

Lets take a top for ward like Conor McManus and stick him in the Mayo team in an AI final v Dublin. My guess is that the Dubs would put Philly and a friend on him and he would do well to get a point or 2 from play.

Or course in earlier games against a Roscommon or a Galway he would kill them.

The days of Padraig Joyce scoring 10 points in an AI final are gone with modern defensive systems. No point looking at old cures that dont work anymore.

That would free up o Connor to do damage. Also, I hate to say it but not too many teams keep McManus to 2 points whether he is double or treble marked. Best forward in Ireland in my opinion.

COC doesn't do much damage from play with Philly and company focusing on AOS already.

[Itchy]

Are you boycotting the Hastings cup this year buckeeeen

[moysider]

Lets take a top for ward like Conor McManus and stick him in the Mayo team in an AI final v Dublin. My guess is that the Dubs would put Philly and a friend on him and he would do well to get a point or 2 from play.

Or course in earlier games against a Roscommon or a Galway he would kill them.

The days of Padraig Joyce scoring 10 points in an AI final are gone with modern defensive systems. No point looking at old cures that dont work anymore.

That would free up o Connor to do damage. Also, I hate to say it but not too many teams keep McManus to 2 points whether he is double or treble marked. Best forward in Ireland in my opinion.

COC doesn't do much damage from play with Philly and company focusing on AOS already.

Donegal limited McManus to 2 scores from play in replay 2016 after he shot the lights out in first game. My point is that even the best forwards can be shut down and the later in the year it is the more likely it is to happen. Players like Brogan, McMenamon and Connolly did not go to town in the AI finals either.

It's just this simplistic stuff we get about scoring forwards. In the Donegal/Kerry final, Kerry didn't even bother playing James O Donoghue close to goal - correctly realising he would be swamped. Not a chance he would get the sympathetic 1 on 1 marking he got v Mayo.