Hurling 2024

[clonadmad]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/06/12/clare-can-find-solace-in-defeat-as-the-numbers-dont-add-up-for-limerick/

Their five championship matches so far this year have resulted in a two-point win, two one-point wins, a draw and a one-point defeat. Five games, washing out to an aggregate scoring difference in their favour of just three points.
The advanced metrics dudes would not find that kind of thing impressive. Particularly when you compare it to this point in 2022, when Limerick's aggregate scoring difference after their fourth Munster title in a row was +24

Kiely has managed them to 12 finals

And won every one of them

[clonadmad]

That was when they had Sean Finn, Cian Lynch and Peter Casey all fit...

Is that factored into advanced stats?

Their dominance, like anyone's, will end at some point but they're a bloody good team and young so they will be there or thereabouts for a good while.

However how that was not given as a free to Clare just at the end of that game I will never know

Clare shouldn't have needed that free to draw level

They should have been 4/5/6 points ahead and it over

44 shots at goal 23 on target

Just over a 50% conversion rate

8 balls dropped short into Nickie Quaids hands

A rookie full back getting destroyed,on a yellow after 20 mins which hampered the full back even further

Morey and Paul Flanagan sitting on the bench

They also haven't developed a top end free taker unlike nearly every other county

They can focus on that free all they want and it should have been given but the roots of their demise run much deeper

[burdizzo]

Heh. They'd probably have missed it, anyway!!

[seafoid]

The atmosphere after the match was mad

https://twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1667906667646689281

[Eire90]

Larry McCarthy has intimated that the Munster and Leinster SHC finals will be played on separate days from next year onwards.

Both finals were played back-to-back last Sunday, with McCarthy conceding that the arrangement wasn't ideal.

"I think we will look at it," the GAA president said after the Tailteann Cup quarter-final draw on RTÉ Radio's Morning Ireland.

"Having the two of them on the one day is not optimal for us. it could be changed for next season. We'll get the CCCC to look at it."

[seafoid]

Larry McCarthy has intimated that the Munster and Leinster SHC finals will be played on separate days from next year onwards.

Both finals were played back-to-back last Sunday, with McCarthy conceding that the arrangement wasn't ideal.

"I think we will look at it," the GAA president said after the Tailteann Cup quarter-final draw on RTÉ Radio's Morning Ireland.

"Having the two of them on the one day is not optimal for us. it could be changed for next season. We'll get the CCCC to look at it."

the Munster Final should be played after the Leinster final

[Eire90]

would that be a saturday-sunday  then and they could alternate years id actually love if they did that with football and hurling all ireland finals.

[marty34]

would that be a saturday-sunday  then and they could alternate years id actually love if they did that with football and hurling all ireland finals.

I think they do it for the semi-finals. One on the Saturday and one on the Sunday.

[clonadmad]

Larry McCarthy has intimated that the Munster and Leinster SHC finals will be played on separate days from next year onwards.

Both finals were played back-to-back last Sunday, with McCarthy conceding that the arrangement wasn't ideal.

"I think we will look at it," the GAA president said after the Tailteann Cup quarter-final draw on RTÉ Radio's Morning Ireland.

"Having the two of them on the one day is not optimal for us. it could be changed for next season. We'll get the CCCC to look at it."

That's already been agreed starting next year

One on the Saturday evening the other on the Sunday

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/06/14/sean-moran-the-munster-hurling-championship-has-been-great-but-can-it-continue/

Would it be fairer for Munster teams if the round-robin groups mixed according to seeding? Of course, but then we would end up with two identical league competitions, one after the other.


There is another compelling reason why it won't happen. Munster have had a fantastic year at the box office. In his welcoming address for Sunday's programme, provincial chair Ger Ryan pinpointed the reason why Munster hurling is unlikely to be tampered with.

"We have had great crowds at our games this year and by throw-in time today, total attendances of this year's senior hurling championship will exceed 300,000," Ryan said.

That adds up to a staggering average attendance of 27,288 per match. When you consider the misgivings – justified in the football championship – about the round-robin format and its traditional impact on attendances, that's an astonishing figure, especially as it includes Waterford's doomed fixture list.

It means the average crowd in Munster was nearly 3,000 greater than the Leinster final, which was itself the best attended match in the province by a distance.

[marty34]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/06/14/sean-moran-the-munster-hurling-championship-has-been-great-but-can-it-continue/

Would it be fairer for Munster teams if the round-robin groups mixed according to seeding? Of course, but then we would end up with two identical league competitions, one after the other.


There is another compelling reason why it won't happen. Munster have had a fantastic year at the box office. In his welcoming address for Sunday's programme, provincial chair Ger Ryan pinpointed the reason why Munster hurling is unlikely to be tampered with.

"We have had great crowds at our games this year and by throw-in time today, total attendances of this year's senior hurling championship will exceed 300,000," Ryan said.

That adds up to a staggering average attendance of 27,288 per match. When you consider the misgivings – justified in the football championship – about the round-robin format and its traditional impact on attendances, that's an astonishing figure, especially as it includes Waterford's doomed fixture list.

It means the average crowd in Munster was nearly 3,000 greater than the Leinster final, which was itself the best attended match in the province by a distance.

An average of over 27, 000 is some going.

[clonadmad]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/06/14/sean-moran-the-munster-hurling-championship-has-been-great-but-can-it-continue/

Would it be fairer for Munster teams if the round-robin groups mixed according to seeding? Of course, but then we would end up with two identical league competitions, one after the other.


There is another compelling reason why it won't happen. Munster have had a fantastic year at the box office. In his welcoming address for Sunday's programme, provincial chair Ger Ryan pinpointed the reason why Munster hurling is unlikely to be tampered with.

"We have had great crowds at our games this year and by throw-in time today, total attendances of this year's senior hurling championship will exceed 300,000," Ryan said.

That adds up to a staggering average attendance of 27,288 per match. When you consider the misgivings – justified in the football championship – about the round-robin format and its traditional impact on attendances, that's an astonishing figure, especially as it includes Waterford's doomed fixture list.

It means the average crowd in Munster was nearly 3,000 greater than the Leinster final, which was itself the best attended match in the province by a distance.

An average of over 27, 000 is some going.

It probably would have broken 30,000 if Waterford had gotten the win in round 1

[seafoid]

The problem in Leinster at the moment is that Offaly and Wexford are well off the pace and Dublin needs a few years to get back to the pace.
Maybe Waterford could be transferred or swapped with Wexford for  few years.

[johnnycool]

The problem in Leinster at the moment is that Offaly and Wexford are well off the pace and Dublin needs a few years to get back to the pace.
Maybe Waterford could be transferred or swapped with Wexford for  few years.

There's no cut and thrust in Leinster, anyone with an inkling of an idea in hurling had a Leinster final of Galway v Kilkenny, that never really looked in any doubt.

In Munster we'd Limerick on the cusp of going out on the last day with Tipp only having to beat Waterford to get a berth in the Munster final, and with Tipp failing to beat Waterford there was a chance of Cork and Limerick both going through at Tipps expense if they managed to draw, Limerick only won by a point to get an unexpected Munster final berth.

That keeps the public engaged all the way through, Leinster need Wexford and Dublin cutting lumps out of the other two on a consistent basis.

[seafoid]

The problem in Leinster at the moment is that Offaly and Wexford are well off the pace and Dublin needs a few years to get back to the pace.
Maybe Waterford could be transferred or swapped with Wexford for  few years.

There's no cut and thrust in Leinster, anyone with an inkling of an idea in hurling had a Leinster final of Galway v Kilkenny, that never really looked in any doubt.

In Munster we'd Limerick on the cusp of going out on the last day with Tipp only having to beat Waterford to get a berth in the Munster final, and with Tipp failing to beat Waterford there was a chance of Cork and Limerick both going through at Tipps expense if they managed to draw, Limerick only won by a point to get an unexpected Munster final berth.

That keeps the public engaged all the way through, Leinster need Wexford and Dublin cutting lumps out of the other two on a consistent basis.

Leinster needs 5 decent teams so it needs Offaly as well.