The Many Faces of US Politics...

[seafoid]

So Republicans are for wage inequality, but the Obama White House and the Clinton Campaign BOTH pay their female staff less than their male staff

Republican policies cause inequality, yet Hillary gives us all a lecture about inequality while wearing a $12K jacket

Republicans wage war against women, yet Democrats eulogize a man like Ted Kennedy who left a young woman to drown (a young woman he was screwing, while married to his wife)

The Republicans are all for fossil fuel, yet Democrats like the Kennedys and others throw a $hit fit when an offshore wind farm is planned for Nantucket Sound (because it will spoil their yachting)

Joe Scarborough uses a great term all the time....self awareness.  Do the Democrats not realise they have become a parody of themselves. They foisted a candidate onto the ballot who was so distasteful, that people who voted for Barack Obama TWICE, turned sides and voted for Donald fvckin Trump

It comes down to whether the party can legislate or not.

[heganboy]

So Republicans are for wage inequality, but the Obama White House and the Clinton Campaign BOTH pay their female staff less than their male staff

Neither pay anybody anything

Republican policies cause inequality, yet Hillary gives us all a lecture about inequality while wearing a $12K jacket
Wtf? How many roubles do Trump's suit cost? What is the price of her jacket have to do with inequality. Her 12k jacket vs Donnie's plane? Go find a clue. Non sequitur

Republicans wage war against women, yet Democrats eulogize a man like Ted Kennedy who left a young woman to drown (a young woman he was screwing, while married to his wife). Pussy grabber, wife 3 was a  illegal immigrant Non sequitur. 

The Republicans are all for fossil fuel, yet Democrats like the Kennedys and others throw a $hit fit when an offshore wind farm is planned for Nantucket Sound (because it will spoil their yachting) non sequitur. And ffs Trump's golf course and the wind farm. Jesus, it's like handling an 8 year old.

Joe Scarborough uses a great term all the time....self awareness.  Do the Democrats not realise they have become a parody of themselves. They foisted a candidate onto the ballot who was so distasteful, that people who voted for Barack Obama TWICE, turned sides and voted for Donald fvckin Trump

Finally a point. And you're right. Why do you resort to this crap?

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Damn ...... a lot of the "men" posting since I asked the question about "Pocohontas"  have me asking some questions.

[stew]

Who is "Pocohontas" and why are you calling her that?

I believe he is referring to Elizabeth Warren. Senator from Massachusetts. She has a small piece of Native American Dna in her and it is what the right use to denigrate her. She is one of the few people who have taken on Wall Street and won. The right are scared "shitless" of her. Do not understand why Stew is so dismissive, she would be of a similar stripe to Bernie Sanders but smarter and Stew supported Bernie until recently. But I forgot Stew is a perfectly balanced Harps man. He has a chip on both shoulders.

Elizabeth Warren fraudently claimed to be a Native American and took a job at the expense of a "real" minority as a lecturer at Harvard.

I think she got paid close to $400K to teach ONE class at Harvard, yet rants and raves about college affordability and student debt


She had bough foreclosed properties and flipped them for a profit


She lives in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Boston and her house is worth anywhere from $1M to $5M


She is what one would refer to as a limousine liberal.  I actually like some of her ideas, but she would win a gold medal on the Olympics for hypocrisy if sucha competition existed

Can someone not earn a lot of money and live in an expensive house and not care about others? "Anywhere from $1mn to $5mn". That is a helluva range which only goes to show you haven't a clue (nor do I). To care about others should you take a vow of poverty?

That turd has no links whatsoever to the native American people, the right is not afraid of her, she is beloved for being a part of the Clinton machine that managed to lose to Trump ffs.

She is a hateful bitch and I am hearing Dwayne Johnson is going to run for the Presidency, now there is someone on the left finally worth voting for, he is a really good guy, smart, savvy and the wemen love him, shit, I would even vote for him because like Bernie, he is a good man untainted by Washington.

As always with you, foxy and whitey .. the ad hominem attack with scant regard for the facts. The default position of the "job creators".

You have been provided with facts that Elizabeth Warren is a liar. Take some time to look it up and you can apologise for your remark afterwards.

I'll even give you a headstart on Fake Pocahontas
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7003/heres-everything-you-need-know-about-elizabeth-aaron-bandler

Here is the Washington Posts take on the issue
http://wapo.st/293EAjw?tid=ss_mail&utm_term=.41b8ed877977
Hardly conclusive proof either way if she has some Native American Dna in her or not.
If she chooses to believe she has Native American blood what's the big deal. Read the article and you will find that she did not tick the ethnicity box that would have given her advantage.
In your world any kind of innuendo is "fact" if you think it will further your agenda. So once again Get your facts straight before you get outraged over nothing. She is a very smart woman who has taken on Wall Street and won. Wall Street and the Right are scared "shitless" of her. She is one of the few Democrats who is capable of getting poor people to vote for their own economic self interest and understands that job creator trickle down economics is bullshit.

She f**king admitted she was not an Native American ffs!The democrats had eight years to help the poor people, they did, they helped them get poorer, they helped more of them get themselves homeless and they don't give a f**k about the poor, they care only about VOTES!

[stew]

Minneapolis is a liberal town, my youngest went to school there and I took many teams to play there over the years, I know the area very well and I have also felt the wrath of the local police, I am not surprised that the top city cop resigned, she was doing an awful job and several people have been killed in recent times by cops that conveniently have their body cams off.

This young Australian woman actually called 911 twice and managed to get killed, I believe this cop panicked after hearing fireworks go off, that is not good enough and he deserves to stand trial for murder.

I see at a presser liberal scumbags disrupted proceedings and made it about them, the left is all about freedom of speech as long as they can silence those who oppose them, Rosie O'Donnell wants to punt the President off a cliff, Hollywood is full of vermin like this and I don't know of one person who gives a shite what she thinks, if this is the sort of liberal the democrats covet good luck, you are going to need it.

[seafoid]

Minneapolis is a liberal town, my youngest went to school there and I took many teams to play there over the years, I know the area very well and I have also felt the wrath of the local police, I am not surprised that the top city cop resigned, she was doing an awful job and several people have been killed in recent times by cops that conveniently have their body cams off.

This young Australian woman actually called 911 twice and managed to get killed, I believe this cop panicked after hearing fireworks go off, that is not good enough and he deserves to stand trial for murder.

I see at a presser liberal scumbags disrupted proceedings and made it about them, the left is all about freedom of speech as long as they can silence those who oppose them, Rosie O'Donnell wants to punt the President off a cliff, Hollywood is full of vermin like this and I don't know of one person who gives a shite what she thinks, if this is the sort of liberal the democrats covet good luck, you are going to need it.

Trump taunted Rosie Ô Donnell during the campaign , Stew. There is no love lost there.
The GOP got the mandate from the people and have done nothing with it.
I also think the 2 state system is banjaxed. The 2 parties are hopelessly corrupt.

[stew]

Minneapolis is a liberal town, my youngest went to school there and I took many teams to play there over the years, I know the area very well and I have also felt the wrath of the local police, I am not surprised that the top city cop resigned, she was doing an awful job and several people have been killed in recent times by cops that conveniently have their body cams off.

This young Australian woman actually called 911 twice and managed to get killed, I believe this cop panicked after hearing fireworks go off, that is not good enough and he deserves to stand trial for murder.

I see at a presser liberal scumbags disrupted proceedings and made it about them, the left is all about freedom of speech as long as they can silence those who oppose them, Rosie O'Donnell wants to punt the President off a cliff, Hollywood is full of vermin like this and I don't know of one person who gives a shite what she thinks, if this is the sort of liberal the democrats covet good luck, you are going to need it.

Trump taunted Rosie Ô Donnell during the campaign , Stew. There is no love lost there.
The GOP got the mandate from the people and have done nothing with it.
I also think the 2 state system is banjaxed. The 2 parties are hopelessly corrupt.

We agree on everything for once )

Odonnell has prior form with trump but her comments are way out of line.

The two party system is a disgrace, if the bern was really focused on pushing forth his socialist agenda he would form a new socialist party, the tea party should do the same, this would force the dems and the republicans to come to the centre and that could only be a good thing for us all.

[CiKe]

Who is "Pocohontas" and why are you calling her that?

I believe he is referring to Elizabeth Warren. Senator from Massachusetts. She has a small piece of Native American Dna in her and it is what the right use to denigrate her. She is one of the few people who have taken on Wall Street and won. The right are scared "shitless" of her. Do not understand why Stew is so dismissive, she would be of a similar stripe to Bernie Sanders but smarter and Stew supported Bernie until recently. But I forgot Stew is a perfectly balanced Harps man. He has a chip on both shoulders.

Elizabeth Warren fraudently claimed to be a Native American and took a job at the expense of a "real" minority as a lecturer at Harvard.

I think she got paid close to $400K to teach ONE class at Harvard, yet rants and raves about college affordability and student debt


She had bough foreclosed properties and flipped them for a profit


She lives in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Boston and her house is worth anywhere from $1M to $5M


She is what one would refer to as a limousine liberal.  I actually like some of her ideas, but she would win a gold medal on the Olympics for hypocrisy if sucha competition existed

Can someone not earn a lot of money and live in an expensive house and not care about others? "Anywhere from $1mn to $5mn". That is a helluva range which only goes to show you haven't a clue (nor do I). To care about others should you take a vow of poverty?

Yaaaawwwwwnnn. .......Well if you knew anything about mandatory disclosures....politicians give a range of what various assets are worth....this is the number she submitted...so maybe you are the one who doesn't have a clue

I quite clearly said I didn't have a clue. However, the fact reading is a problem for you might explain how you missed answering the question asked. It might also explain your inability to explore beyond an echo chamber.

[CiKe]

Minneapolis is a liberal town, my youngest went to school there and I took many teams to play there over the years, I know the area very well and I have also felt the wrath of the local police, I am not surprised that the top city cop resigned, she was doing an awful job and several people have been killed in recent times by cops that conveniently have their body cams off.

This young Australian woman actually called 911 twice and managed to get killed, I believe this cop panicked after hearing fireworks go off, that is not good enough and he deserves to stand trial for murder.

I see at a presser liberal scumbags disrupted proceedings and made it about them, the left is all about freedom of speech as long as they can silence those who oppose them, Rosie O'Donnell wants to punt the President off a cliff, Hollywood is full of vermin like this and I don't know of one person who gives a shite what she thinks, if this is the sort of liberal the democrats covet good luck, you are going to need it.

Trump taunted Rosie Ô Donnell during the campaign , Stew. There is no love lost there.
The GOP got the mandate from the people and have done nothing with it.
I also think the 2 state system is banjaxed. The 2 parties are hopelessly corrupt.

We agree on everything for once )

Odonnell has prior form with trump but her comments are way out of line.

The two party system is a disgrace, if the bern was really focused on pushing forth his socialist agenda he would form a new socialist party, the tea party should do the same, this would force the dems and the republicans to come to the centre and that could only be a good thing for us

We can but hope, current polarization not doing anyone any favours

[seafoid]

Great, the air conditioner has failed, the temperature indoors is sweltering, and I have to endure Fox and Whitey.

I posed a very simple question when the idea of a Warren presidential run was posited.  I wondered about the moral equivalency between the two possible candidates, Warren and Trump.  BTW, I don't know who the Dems will run, but I don't think it'll be Warren.

Anyway, what do I get in response? A balanced assessment of their relative morality? Heck, no. Just absurdities from the Faux man and Sean Hannity's Fox News talking points from whitey.

OK, Foxy, you have the elephantine gonads to say that Warren is dishonest/corrupt.  You do know that the guy in your corner is Donald feckin' Trump, right--conman, cheat, pussy-grabber extraordinaire, who has already cost taxpayers millions with his endless golf trips and security details, not to mention the upwards of 20-30 million people he is seeking to deny healthcare.  And Foxy, despite your imbecilic point, I am not asking you to compare a person with a government, just a person with a person.

So, let's see, who's the more morally destitute?  The person who claims to be 1/32 Native American, who owns an above-average house in the Boston market (1-2 million at most), who taught at Harvard (no concrete evidence that she she used her background for advancement), and who champions the cause of the middle class against the likes of Goldman Sachs OR the inveterate liar-cheat who has refused to pay his bills, cheated construction workers/companies, gouged down to earth people with his fraudulent university.  Itemizing his lies alone would take pages, but you know that.  You and your ilk just don't give a crap.  As he said, he could shoot people on 5th Avenue, and it wouldn't bother you.

And then you have the chutzpah to mock me for saying that under Trump, American democracy is under assault.  Again, I could write screeds on that theme.  How about gerrymandering, systematic voter suppression, bogus claims of voter fraud, disdain for the truth, elevation of bogus propaganda news sites and declaring war against the legitimate news media and the very First Amendment (i.e. seeking ways to strip 1st Amendment rights from those who criticize you).

Oh, yes, and that "Russia" thing too--meddling with/sabotaging elections, colluding with Russian emissaries (and then a procession of Trumpers having a severe bout of neo-Reagan Alzheimer's when it comes to remembering meetings), financial entanglements with Russian oligarchs.

Oh, and of course, firing Comey, and actively and frantically working to discredit and remove Mueller.

Foxy et al, if you own a restaurant and the health department sends two people to inspect your premises, and you fire one and seek to unload the other, then I have news for you--your kitchen is ankle-deep in rat doo.

So, Foxy and friends, take a second to weigh ALL the shortcomings of Elizabeth Warren (or anyone else for that matter, including the real Pocahontas) against the longcomings of DJT.  What do you get?  You get the Dublin senior footballers versus the Armagh blind girls' U-7 selection.

So, yeah, get a grip.

Very good stuff.
In the US the GOP media is an echo chamber. You can't systematically dispossess people and tell the truth.

It is all about looting the country for the benefit of the ultra rich. 
INFOWARS is slightly to the right of Fox on the bullshit spectrum. Alex Jones repeats and repeats simple ideas to ignorant people
"If Trump loses the war the Dems will impose martial law.
They have lost the will of the people. They are cornered rats. They will go for broke.
America is on death Watch.  Dems allied with radical orthodox Islam.  Anti god anti Christian  anti family
They mean to finish us. We must finish them..
Müller and Rosenstein should be sacked. There is no evidence against Trump even though Sessions recused himself. The most biased lynch mob of executioners. Dershowitz and other Dems say this is insane. This is a rogue group and people behave like Mueller is the new president and Jesus Christ come down from heaven. 

Elizabeth  Drew is very good on the modern Republican party compared to 40 years ago.

"Congress still had the capacity to do things in a bipartisan fashion.

Republican moderates were not an endangered species.

Twitter hadn't corrupted the news cycle of the political class—or the attention span of the president himself.

Watergate showed that accountability was possible, and Congress could function the way the founders intended—a question that is still up in the air in the Trump era. "It was a very different kind of politics then. Bipartisanship was not the oddity. It was really the norm."

The US system is broken. Plutocracy broke it

[whitey]

Who is "Pocohontas" and why are you calling her that?

I believe he is referring to Elizabeth Warren. Senator from Massachusetts. She has a small piece of Native American Dna in her and it is what the right use to denigrate her. She is one of the few people who have taken on Wall Street and won. The right are scared "shitless" of her. Do not understand why Stew is so dismissive, she would be of a similar stripe to Bernie Sanders but smarter and Stew supported Bernie until recently. But I forgot Stew is a perfectly balanced Harps man. He has a chip on both shoulders.

Elizabeth Warren fraudently claimed to be a Native American and took a job at the expense of a "real" minority as a lecturer at Harvard.

I think she got paid close to $400K to teach ONE class at Harvard, yet rants and raves about college affordability and student debt


She had bough foreclosed properties and flipped them for a profit


She lives in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Boston and her house is worth anywhere from $1M to $5M


She is what one would refer to as a limousine liberal.  I actually like some of her ideas, but she would win a gold medal on the Olympics for hypocrisy if sucha competition existed

Can someone not earn a lot of money and live in an expensive house and not care about others? "Anywhere from $1mn to $5mn". That is a helluva range which only goes to show you haven't a clue (nor do I). To care about others should you take a vow of poverty?

Yaaaawwwwwnnn. .......Well if you knew anything about mandatory disclosures....politicians give a range of what various assets are worth....this is the number she submitted...so maybe you are the one who doesn't have a clue

I quite clearly said I didn't have a clue. However, the fact reading is a problem for you might explain how you missed answering the question asked. It might also explain your inability to explore beyond an echo chamber.

Lectues about inequality from 1% wealthy elites who inhabit the Ivory towers ring hollow with me. 

Having lived almost exclusively in Blue States for the past 25 years, I have seen these people in action time and time again........and its not pretty.  Theres a person in my town who has a "We are the 99%" bumper sticker on her Prius.  She and her husband (whos a surgeon) almost litigated their unfortunate neighbor into the poor house. (He had inherited the house from his grandmother). At the heel of the hunt, he had to put his house on the market and then couldnt sell it because the 99%'rs next door were such cvnts no one wanted to live beside them.  THEY then bough the house on the cheap, and promptly knocked it so that they could extend their garden.  Lovely people

Edit:  Last time I checked....they also had an Elizabeth Warren sticker on their car

[Hardy]

Who is "Pocohontas" and why are you calling her that?

I believe he is referring to Elizabeth Warren. Senator from Massachusetts. She has a small piece of Native American Dna in her and it is what the right use to denigrate her. She is one of the few people who have taken on Wall Street and won. The right are scared "shitless" of her. Do not understand why Stew is so dismissive, she would be of a similar stripe to Bernie Sanders but smarter and Stew supported Bernie until recently. But I forgot Stew is a perfectly balanced Harps man. He has a chip on both shoulders.

Elizabeth Warren fraudently claimed to be a Native American and took a job at the expense of a "real" minority as a lecturer at Harvard.

I think she got paid close to $400K to teach ONE class at Harvard, yet rants and raves about college affordability and student debt


She had bough foreclosed properties and flipped them for a profit


She lives in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Boston and her house is worth anywhere from $1M to $5M


She is what one would refer to as a limousine liberal.  I actually like some of her ideas, but she would win a gold medal on the Olympics for hypocrisy if sucha competition existed

Can someone not earn a lot of money and live in an expensive house and not care about others? "Anywhere from $1mn to $5mn". That is a helluva range which only goes to show you haven't a clue (nor do I). To care about others should you take a vow of poverty?

Yaaaawwwwwnnn. .......Well if you knew anything about mandatory disclosures....politicians give a range of what various assets are worth....this is the number she submitted...so maybe you are the one who doesn't have a clue

I quite clearly said I didn't have a clue. However, the fact reading is a problem for you might explain how you missed answering the question asked. It might also explain your inability to explore beyond an echo chamber.

Lectues about inequality from 1% wealthy elites who inhabit the Ivory towers ring hollow with me. 

Having lived almost exclusively in Blue States for the past 25 years, I have seen these people in action time and time again........and its not pretty.  Theres a person in my town who has a "We are the 99%" bumper sticker on her Prius.  She and her husband (whos a surgeon) almost litigated their unfortunate neighbor into the poor house. (He had inherited the house from his grandmother). At the heel of the hunt, he had to put his house on the market and then couldnt sell it because the 99%'rs next door were such cvnts no one wanted to live beside them.  THEY then bough the house on the cheap, and promptly knocked it so that they could extend their garden.  Lovely people

Edit:  Last time I checked....they also had an Elizabeth Warren sticker on their car

And ... ?

[whitey]

Who is "Pocohontas" and why are you calling her that?

I believe he is referring to Elizabeth Warren. Senator from Massachusetts. She has a small piece of Native American Dna in her and it is what the right use to denigrate her. She is one of the few people who have taken on Wall Street and won. The right are scared "shitless" of her. Do not understand why Stew is so dismissive, she would be of a similar stripe to Bernie Sanders but smarter and Stew supported Bernie until recently. But I forgot Stew is a perfectly balanced Harps man. He has a chip on both shoulders.

Elizabeth Warren fraudently claimed to be a Native American and took a job at the expense of a "real" minority as a lecturer at Harvard.

I think she got paid close to $400K to teach ONE class at Harvard, yet rants and raves about college affordability and student debt


She had bough foreclosed properties and flipped them for a profit


She lives in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Boston and her house is worth anywhere from $1M to $5M


She is what one would refer to as a limousine liberal.  I actually like some of her ideas, but she would win a gold medal on the Olympics for hypocrisy if sucha competition existed

Can someone not earn a lot of money and live in an expensive house and not care about others? "Anywhere from $1mn to $5mn". That is a helluva range which only goes to show you haven't a clue (nor do I). To care about others should you take a vow of poverty?

Yaaaawwwwwnnn. .......Well if you knew anything about mandatory disclosures....politicians give a range of what various assets are worth....this is the number she submitted...so maybe you are the one who doesn't have a clue

I quite clearly said I didn't have a clue. However, the fact reading is a problem for you might explain how you missed answering the question asked. It might also explain your inability to explore beyond an echo chamber.

Lectues about inequality from 1% wealthy elites who inhabit the Ivory towers ring hollow with me. 

Having lived almost exclusively in Blue States for the past 25 years, I have seen these people in action time and time again........and its not pretty.  Theres a person in my town who has a "We are the 99%" bumper sticker on her Prius.  She and her husband (whos a surgeon) almost litigated their unfortunate neighbor into the poor house. (He had inherited the house from his grandmother). At the heel of the hunt, he had to put his house on the market and then couldnt sell it because the 99%'rs next door were such cvnts no one wanted to live beside them.  THEY then bough the house on the cheap, and promptly knocked it so that they could extend their garden.  Lovely people

Edit:  Last time I checked....they also had an Elizabeth Warren sticker on their car

And ... ?

Elizabeth Warren is a fraud and a phony and so are her supporters...at least the ones I know

[Oraisteach]

And Donald Trump?

[Hardy]

Who is "Pocohontas" and why are you calling her that?

I believe he is referring to Elizabeth Warren. Senator from Massachusetts. She has a small piece of Native American Dna in her and it is what the right use to denigrate her. She is one of the few people who have taken on Wall Street and won. The right are scared "shitless" of her. Do not understand why Stew is so dismissive, she would be of a similar stripe to Bernie Sanders but smarter and Stew supported Bernie until recently. But I forgot Stew is a perfectly balanced Harps man. He has a chip on both shoulders.

Elizabeth Warren fraudently claimed to be a Native American and took a job at the expense of a "real" minority as a lecturer at Harvard.

I think she got paid close to $400K to teach ONE class at Harvard, yet rants and raves about college affordability and student debt


She had bough foreclosed properties and flipped them for a profit


She lives in one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in Boston and her house is worth anywhere from $1M to $5M


She is what one would refer to as a limousine liberal.  I actually like some of her ideas, but she would win a gold medal on the Olympics for hypocrisy if sucha competition existed

Can someone not earn a lot of money and live in an expensive house and not care about others? "Anywhere from $1mn to $5mn". That is a helluva range which only goes to show you haven't a clue (nor do I). To care about others should you take a vow of poverty?

Yaaaawwwwwnnn. .......Well if you knew anything about mandatory disclosures....politicians give a range of what various assets are worth....this is the number she submitted...so maybe you are the one who doesn't have a clue

I quite clearly said I didn't have a clue. However, the fact reading is a problem for you might explain how you missed answering the question asked. It might also explain your inability to explore beyond an echo chamber.

Lectues about inequality from 1% wealthy elites who inhabit the Ivory towers ring hollow with me. 

Having lived almost exclusively in Blue States for the past 25 years, I have seen these people in action time and time again........and its not pretty.  Theres a person in my town who has a "We are the 99%" bumper sticker on her Prius.  She and her husband (whos a surgeon) almost litigated their unfortunate neighbor into the poor house. (He had inherited the house from his grandmother). At the heel of the hunt, he had to put his house on the market and then couldnt sell it because the 99%'rs next door were such cvnts no one wanted to live beside them.  THEY then bough the house on the cheap, and promptly knocked it so that they could extend their garden.  Lovely people

Edit:  Last time I checked....they also had an Elizabeth Warren sticker on their car

And ... ?

Elizabeth Warren is a fraud and a phony

OK - I had no idea. Thanks for the information.

and so are her supporters

Your little parable does was interesting, but don't try to use it as evidence for this conclusion.

...at least the ones I know

Ah yes.

Absolute classic alt-right diversion. An immigrant mugged an old lady in my town. Therefore immigrants are causing an increase in crime rates. And we know the opposite is true - crime rates are lower in high-immigration areas. But Tucker Carlson's audience won't ever hear that.