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#31
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 08:46:09 PM
Sorry, she hasn't.
#32
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 08:32:05 PM
Nope.
#33
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 08:20:26 PM
Listened to Sarah Tierney.
Seems like at the core of all this is a personal issue between her and Leahy, with two of them in it.
Not impressed by her trying to drag other players into it to make it sound like there was a systemic issue though.
A player was crying in the car park because she was dropped.
Understandable she'd be upset, but women (and I should be on safe enough ground here) tend to cry a bit more than men do.
So I don't think that's particularly noteworthy.
I don't think she was 'mistreated'.
We've probably all been that soldier at some stage.
To be honest, if they were a bit more restrained in the language they've used, they'd have a lot more sympathy.
#34
Sounds like he walked into a door...
#35
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 02:02:52 PM
Are ye serious?

Traditionally in Ireland, defamation was the publication of a false statement which caused a person to be subject to ridicule or contempt, which in turn often lead to a claim for defamation damages by the injured party.

That definition has given way to a more modern one, and now a claim for defamation in Ireland, can arise through a statement which tends to lower the reputation, or which creates a negative image of the subject in the eyes of right-thinking people.

https://www.defamationireland.com/
#36
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 01:22:21 PM
"He was doing this action - 'you're listening to the others, you're listening to the others' - and I was standing back. He was getting visibly aggressive with me at this stage. It was probably the first time I stood up to him and said 'who are these others you're referring to? I don't understand what you're on about.'

"The conversation ended that night, but I swore driving home from training that night that I wouldn't be in a one-on-one situation with him again unless the liaison officer was there. I felt totally intimidated."


Forget about football and imagine this was an employee talking about the line manager in her place of work.
#37
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 12:56:02 PM
A couple of fairly serious allegations in there.
I dunno what Peter Leahy does for a living, but I'm sure he has female colleagues.
Now we're getting into legal territory.
#38
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 18, 2018, 11:43:38 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 18, 2018, 11:40:23 AM
A taste of what's to come...

Is the @officialgaa system supporting this mans behavior? Would his behavior be tolerated if it was the men's team ? @OrlaNWCI @NWCI need to support these ladies to understanding this classic bully behavior if the @Mayo_LGFA @MayoGAA don't step up. #raging #MayoGaa #Mayoladies

https://twitter.com/ElaineSandraLiz/status/1041973198768812033

You're quoting someone with a Disney character for an avatar and 300 followers, Jinxy - you'd find far more reprehensible stuff on this forum to quote. We have a 100 page rape trial thread and an active 9/11 truther community ffs..

Hence the 'taste of what's to come' bit.
Look, I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong but this is coming along on the heels of the Serena Williams affair.
I've noticed that Irish people of a certain slant often look to find 'our' version of anything that is currently a hot topic on the international stage.
This gives them that opportunity, but as a lot of those people aren't actually into sport, it depends how much of a foothold the story gets in the national media.
As I said before, it's been a sports story up to now, hence it has flown under the radar.
Time will tell.
If it's part of the regular news cycle this evening, I think it'll blow up.
If it remains confined to the sports bulletin at the end, I think it'll blow over.
#39
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 11:40:23 AM
A taste of what's to come...

Is the @officialgaa system supporting this mans behavior? Would his behavior be tolerated if it was the men's team ? @OrlaNWCI @NWCI need to support these ladies to understanding this classic bully behavior if the @Mayo_LGFA @MayoGAA don't step up. #raging #MayoGaa #Mayoladies

https://twitter.com/ElaineSandraLiz/status/1041973198768812033
#40
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 11:36:31 AM
Quote from: Halfquarter on September 18, 2018, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 18, 2018, 10:55:21 AM
I would strongly advise the Mayo management team to let the Mayo players handle this altogether.
Very different optics in that case.

According to RTE sports News at 11:00 this morning, Peter Leahy is going to make a statement later on this morning.
Looks like this issue is going to be battled out over the National airwaves, not the ideal way to go.

Bad idea.
#41
GAA Discussion / Re: Violence in Adult Club Football
September 18, 2018, 10:56:36 AM
6 red cards, Benny.
#42
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 10:55:21 AM
I would strongly advise the Mayo management team to let the Mayo players handle this altogether.
Very different optics in that case.
#43
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 10:51:27 AM
https://twitter.com/OfftheBenchOTB/status/1041971644984635392

'Awful to see players talk of toll this, and esp reaction to it , has taken on mental health. They're amateurs & play/not play is their decision. Shouldn't be judged for it & defo one club shouldn't be thrown out of local SFC for it. Carnacon appealing 4 reinstatement again 2nite'

Here's how I think this will go down.
The narrative will be 'the female players were being badly treated by a male management team, so opted to walk away. To punish them, their club was thrown out of the championship'.
The thing you're underestimating Syferus, is that this has been confined to the sports pages until now.
Now that the players have released a statement citing 'mental health' and 'intimidation', watch it grow legs.
#44
GAA Discussion / Re: Violence in Adult Club Football
September 18, 2018, 10:38:58 AM
Didn't Peter get his jaw busted in the showers years ago?
#45
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 10:29:00 AM
The beauty of the 'mental health' angle in this instance is that it's entirely subjective.
You can't question the veracity of such a claim or you will be torn asunder in the court of public opinion.
I can see how this will develop from here.
The majority of people discussing sport online are men.
A lot of the discussion surrounding this will be along the lines of, 'Are they for real?'
'FEMINIST' (as opposed to feminist) types, who only take an interest in ladies gaelic football once a year to lament the fact that it's still called 'ladies' football, will accuse them of misogyny, bullying etc. and before long we have a perfect storm where actual facts simply will not matter.

It brings to mind a recent article by friend of the board Ewan Mackenna, regarding the Serena Williams affair.
His opinion was (correctly in my view) that it wasn't equal treatment Serena wanted, it was special treatment.
This feels the same to me, but no male journalist (other than Ewan probably) will want to touch this story with a barge-pole.
At least not in any serious way which challenges the reasons for leaving given in the players' statement.