Maigh Eo v Ciarrai, 1700, 30ú Lúnasa, Gaelic Grounds

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Goin Down

Is it true capacity of the gaelic grounds is < 50,000? And > 53,000 was at todays game? It wouldnt be that unrealistic surely that due to the high tempo game today a similar if not bigger crowd would attend the replay?

People may well be disappointed.

All Ireland Senior Football Semi Finals should be played in GAA HQ IMO, replay 1, 2 or 3.

To say the replay can't be in Croke Park the 6th because they would have no contingency for a draw in the Dublin v Donegal game is a joke. Mayo and Kerry currently need a replay and were the first semi final so should get the date in Croke Park where semi finals should be. On the off chance Dublin and Donegal draw, move them to the Gaelic Grounds as Croke Park will actually be unavailable then - all neutral venues anyway, right?  ::)
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Sidney

Quote from: Goin Down on August 25, 2014, 12:08:10 AM
Is it true capacity of the gaelic grounds is < 50,000? And > 53,000 was at todays game? It wouldnt be that unrealistic surely that due to the high tempo game today a similar if not bigger crowd would attend the replay?

People may well be disappointed.

All Ireland Senior Football Semi Finals should be played in GAA HQ IMO, replay 1, 2 or 3.

To say the replay can't be in Croke Park the 6th because they would have no contingency for a draw in the Dublin v Donegal game is a joke. Mayo and Kerry currently need a replay and were the first semi final so should get the date in Croke Park where semi finals should be. On the off chance Dublin and Donegal draw, move them to the Gaelic Grounds as Croke Park will actually be unavailable then - all neutral venues anyway, right?  ::)
If 52k attended today, a Saturday replay in Croke Park would attract less, in the region of 40-45k max, for two reasons.

i) Replays not involving Dublin tend to attract smaller crowds
ii) Saturday matches generally attract smaller crowds.

Say for instance the 2005 Ulster final at Croke Park. The drawn match on a Sunday attracted 60k. The replay on a Saturday had an attendance of 32k.

The 2004 All-Ireland semi-final drawn match between Mayo and Fermanagh, from memory, attracted a crowd of over 60k. The replay got nowhere near that.

Limerick will be able to cater for the crowd that would have turned up in Croke Park for a Saturday replay.

Syferus

The last major AI replay (2012 AI hurling final) attracted more people than the original match.

Sidney

Quote from: Syferus on August 25, 2014, 12:18:33 AM
The last major AI replay (2012 AI hurling final) attracted more people than than original match.
This is not an All-Ireland final.

It's undeniable, based on evidence, that replays not involving Dublin generally attract a lower crowd, especially when played on Saturdays.

Tyrone v Armagh 2005
Mayo v Fermanagh 2004
Clare v Tipp 1999
Waterford v Cork 2010
Waterford v Cork 2007
Any number of Cork v Kerry matches over the last decade, notably the 2008 semi-final for which a paltry combined Cork/Kerry crowd turned up for

When Offaly played Clare in the third match of the 1998 trilogy, there was no moaning over the venue being Thurles. The crowd was below 40k, over 15/16k below capacity.

Limerick will comfortably cater for all who want to attend, and the atmosphere will wipe the floor with that of Croke Park.



BennyHarp

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Perhaps fix the replay for a week on Saturday at Croke Park maybe at 2pm and provisionally pencil in a Dublin v Donegal replay for Clones on the same day at 4.30pm if required.
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Goin Down

You may be right, but theres no way of really knowing the future. I think interest in the fixture is bigger now after todays display.

I still believe All Ireland Semi Finals should be in Croke Park as it is the prime GAA stadium in the country. Mayo and Kerry need a replay. The 6th is an available date at Croke Park, and it is been denied because of the off chance of the other semi final next weekend ending in a draw. If it does, no reason why the contingency plan for them cant be Gaelic Grounds if all teams are to be treated the same.
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Throw ball

Why should the possibility of a replay in the Donegal v Dublin game trump the definite replay between Mayo and Kerry? Surely replay should be on September 6th.

Has anyone any idea how many people will go to this American college game? Surely there aren't 80k who want to watch?

Asal Mor

Amazing game(marred only by Tommy Carr's co-commentary, but if it wasn't him it would be  would have been Breheny). I can't remember a more exciting game of football.

Sidney

Quote from: Throw ball on August 25, 2014, 12:41:08 AM
Why should the possibility of a replay in the Donegal v Dublin game trump the definite replay between Mayo and Kerry? Surely replay should be on September 6th.

Has anyone any idea how many people will go to this American college game? Surely there aren't 80k who want to watch?
It's irrelevant how many turn up to it. The stadium has been booked for that date for well over a year. You can't go back on that agreement six days beforehand.

Dermot Earley talked about having no objection to concerts and other events, as long as they weren't during the championship season. Amazingly enough, the time when you can book outdoor concerts pretty much entirely overlaps with the championship season. One Direction aren't going to want to play in Croke Park in November. Croke Park is a business, whether people like it or not.

Throw ball

Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 12:49:11 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on August 25, 2014, 12:41:08 AM
Why should the possibility of a replay in the Donegal v Dublin game trump the definite replay between Mayo and Kerry? Surely replay should be on September 6th.

Has anyone any idea how many people will go to this American college game? Surely there aren't 80k who want to watch?
It's irrelevant how many turn up to it. The stadium has been booked for that date for well over a year. You can't go back on that agreement six days beforehand.

Dermot Earley talked about having no objection to concerts and other events, as long as they weren't during the championship season. Amazingly enough, the time when you can book outdoor concerts pretty much entirely overlaps with the championship season. One Direction aren't going to want to play in Croke Park in November. Croke Park is a business, whether people like it or not.

My point on the American football was just a general question. Still cannot see why the game cannot be played on 6th September. There is nothing scheduled at Croke Park on that date at the minute.

INDIANA

Quote from: BennyHarp on August 25, 2014, 12:29:06 AM
Perhaps fix the replay for a week on Saturday at Croke Park maybe at 2pm and provisionally pencil in a Dublin v Donegal replay for Clones on the same day at 4.30pm if required.

pencil us in to play on the Aran Islands. We'll still fill the place, have a great day out and won't complain about the result if we lose.

BennyHarp

Quote from: Sidney on August 25, 2014, 12:49:11 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on August 25, 2014, 12:41:08 AM
Why should the possibility of a replay in the Donegal v Dublin game trump the definite replay between Mayo and Kerry? Surely replay should be on September 6th.

Has anyone any idea how many people will go to this American college game? Surely there aren't 80k who want to watch?
It's irrelevant how many turn up to it. The stadium has been booked for that date for well over a year. You can't go back on that agreement six days beforehand.

Dermot Earley talked about having no objection to concerts and other events, as long as they weren't during the championship season. Amazingly enough, the time when you can book outdoor concerts pretty much entirely overlaps with the championship season. One Direction aren't going to want to play in Croke Park in November. Croke Park is a business, whether people like it or not.

Nobody is saying to go back on the agreement with the colleges football. The point is that it shouldn't have been scheduled for the same day as a potential AI semi final in the first place. The likelihood of Dublin v Donegal drawing is fairly low (22/1 in fact) but the prudent nature of the GAA not fixing the Kerry v Mayo replay for a week on Saturday in Croke Park so not to clash with a potential replay is at odds with the less than prudent decision to schedule an event on the date that the first semi final replay could be played.

That was never a square ball!!

J70

Rip roaring second half today, and fair play to both teams for coming back at different stages when each could easily have thrown in the towel. Unbelievable second half from Aidan O'Shea, while Cillian O'Connor looked well worth all the hype. Amazing as well to see Donaghy turn back the clock with two superb catches and layoffs. O'Donoghue will be well sick with himself for missing that last opportunity, although Cuniffe (I think) missed a much easier chance for Mayo a few minutes earlier that probably would have been the winning of the game. Kerry are unlikely to find themselves five points ahead with a man extra the next day, and will probably feel they blew their chance, but you never know what can happen.

Wildweasel74

go play the game in limerick and get over it, dont need to listen to the mayo hordes complaining all week about this, you had  held kerry out with a  5pt lead you wouldnt need a replay, good game today but Asal mor say he coudlnt remember a more exciting game, good to know he missed Kerry v Dublin last year

Don Corleone

The amusing issue here is the input/opinions of supporters who's counties are no longer involved. As one from 1 of those counties, I'd gladly go to Limerick or wherever, in the aspiration of reaching the AI Final.
The decision regarding a possible replay was known to both sides before throw-in. The GAA aren't Iarinroid Eireann or the Cork County Board, a huff isn't acceptable. It's Limerick, Coldrick is off the case, HQ rules, on a Saturday, on TV, still August, what's not to like....
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