Paul Galvin's appeal against his six month ban has been turned down by the CAC, while Monaghan's Paul Finlay's one match ban has also been upheld.
Galvins suspension was a bit too lienient for my liking, disgraceful actions by both him and the DRA, they could have really flung the book at him.
Hopefully that will draw a line under it.
That's write.
Quote from: Mid Mon on June 27, 2008, 01:09:58 PM
Paul Galvin's appeal against his six month ban has been turned down by the CAC, while Monaghan's Paul Finlay's one match ban has also been upheld.
In other news, Roger federer has beaten an unseeded tennis player at wimbledon...
Finlays 8 week suspension was harsh in my opinion.
Also think Galvin should have got 12-16 weeks instead of 24 weeks.
What grounds are they appealing under apart from "We don't like it" ?
Just got this in a Munster GAA mail alert.
PRESS RELEASE
COISTE CHONDAE CHIARRAÍ
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Coiste Chiarraí and Kerry Senior Team Management express disappointment that Paul Galvin's appeal in relation to his excessive suspension was turned down at last nights Central Appeals Committee meeting in Croke Park.
However it is now the wish of Paul Galvin that the County's full focus will be on the Munster Minor and Senior Football finals on Sunday 6th July in Cork.
The rules of the Association allow Paul to take his case to a hearing of the DRA and this option may yet be considered.
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Time to move on now, there is lots of football to be played yet this year.
Galvin is a big loss for Kerry, as is Declan O'Sullivan. People were basically saying Kerry were close to unbeatable this year but I think they'll fall short of doing the 3 in a row. I predict a semi final exit.
At least they're still susceptable to one type of semi final exit. They'll never really be at risk of a munster semi final exit after the bullsh!t motion passed last year >:(
Quote from: Kerry Mike on June 27, 2008, 08:01:36 PM
Time to move on now, there is lots of football to be played yet this year.
Fair dues
KM, such as it goes, I couldn't see it being reduced, and I don't believe there's a technicality that will result in a commutation of this particular penalty, DRA or no!
All players must now take note: transgress at your peril.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 27, 2008, 10:32:25 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on June 27, 2008, 08:01:36 PM
Time to move on now, there is lots of football to be played yet this year.
Fair dues KM, such as it goes, I couldn't see it being reduced, and I don't believe there's a technicality that will result in a commutation of this particular penalty, DRA or no!
All players must now take note: transgress at your peril.
FFS Geoffrey Mc gonigle got 3 months for calling the ref a clown back in 2000. This 'Robustness' in disciplinary action ebbs and flows.
QuoteAt least they're still susceptable to one type of semi final exit. They'll never really be at risk of a munster semi final exit after the bullsh!t motion passed last year
Ulster SFC
semi-finalAt Omagh
Fermanagh 1-11
Derry 1-9
not as susceptible as Derry obviously.
I think Kerry will use this to help motivate some of the younger lads. Galvin is a tit but 6 months was harsh.
Quote from: Gnevin on June 27, 2008, 06:34:17 PM
What grounds are they appealing under apart from "We don't like it" ?
I wondered about that, do they just argue the same case in front of a different bunch of people?
Or an exhaustive futile process to search for a technicality, a missing fada.
One appeal is more than enough to proof read the documents.
A disciplinary system with 3 appeals allowed is farcical.
Displays little confidence in it's own disciplinary system.
Quote from: Main Street on June 28, 2008, 11:51:53 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on June 27, 2008, 06:34:17 PM
What grounds are they appealing under apart from "We don't like it" ?
I wondered about that, do they just argue the same case in front of a different bunch of people?
Or an exhaustive futile process to search for a technicality, a missing fada.
One appeal is more than enough to proof read the documents.
A disciplinary system with 3 appeals allowed is farcical.
Displays little confidence in it's own disciplinary system.
Although the legal system has various levels of appeal that you can go through. However, I'd assume that you would have to have new evidence or similar grounds for a appeal, rather than just not liking the outcome.
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 27, 2008, 10:32:25 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on June 27, 2008, 08:01:36 PM
Time to move on now, there is lots of football to be played yet this year.
Fair dues KM, such as it goes, I couldn't see it being reduced, and I don't believe there's a technicality that will result in a commutation of this particular penalty, DRA or no!
All players must now take note: transgress at your peril.
We will wait and see ?
Quote from: Main Street on June 28, 2008, 11:51:53 AM
Quote from: Gnevin on June 27, 2008, 06:34:17 PM
What grounds are they appealing under apart from "We don't like it" ?
I wondered about that, do they just argue the same case in front of a different bunch of people?
Or an exhaustive futile process to search for a technicality, a missing fada.
One appeal is more than enough to proof read the documents.
A disciplinary system with 3 appeals allowed is farcical.
Displays little confidence in it's own disciplinary system.
My understanding of the disciplinary process leads me to believe that this was Paul Galvin's first appeal. The suspension is proposed by the first committee and can be accepted by the player or he can elect for a hearing,where the suspension can be confirmed,lessened or lengthened.He can then appeal the suspension, if unsuccessful he has the option of going to 'final arbitration' (the supreme court) in the form of the DRA. Have to say that the system seems to be working pretty well so far, altough I personally thought that it was going to be a fiasco.I always thought that natural justice should dictate that Ross Carr should have had his suspension overturned(if he believed he was speaking 'off the record') he could not be seen to be publicly criticising a referee.Hvae to say, as an Armagh man, I was impressed by Ross at the Q&A session in the Canal Court - he certainly didn't come across as someone given to off the cuff remarks that would be thrown open to public scrutiny at a later date. My opinionof him was greatly enhanced by hearing him speak in person.
As for Paul Galvin's suspension, I think it is just about right. If he had knocked the referee's notebook out of his hands and the immediately apologised, then a minimum suspension of three months would obviously be appropriate. However, he then abused the linesman and was on his way back to the referee before being restrained by Tomas Se. If the minimum is three months, then Paul Galvin obviously deserved more, the rights and wrongs of the officials' decision have no bearing on the disciplinary action(if he was to be given mitigation because the officials erred, then every player could call witnesses to state that they were 'hard done by') otherwie it would be open season on 'playing officials'.
Quote from: bigpaul on June 29, 2008, 12:28:22 AM
As for Paul Galvin's suspension, I think it is just about right. If he had knocked the referee's notebook out of his hands and the immediately apologised, then a minimum suspension of three months would obviously be appropriate. However, he then abused the linesman and was on his way back to the referee before being restrained by Tomas Se.
I think you have a point. If, after knocking the notebook out of the ref's hand, he had picked up the notebook and handed it back to the ref, then left the field, the Bomber could have said it was an accident. Oh, wait...
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on June 27, 2008, 08:13:22 PM
Galvin is a big loss for Kerry, as is Declan O'Sullivan. People were basically saying Kerry were close to unbeatable this year but I think they'll fall short of doing the 3 in a row. I predict a semi final exit.
I think we saw today just what a miss them players were in the half forward line. Looks like Dara O'Se might struggle with the pace of games to. Pressure definatley on Kerry.
Maybe they just don't have the depth of a panel this year as in previous years.