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Title: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on November 26, 2019, 05:25:30 PM
Fixtures 25/01

Round 1

Celtic Park, 17:00 Doire v Liatroim 
Páirc Uí Chaoimh, 18:00 Corcaigh v Uíbh Fhailí 

26/01
Glennon Bros. Pearse Park  14:00 An Longfort v An Lú 
Clonmel GAA Pitch    14:00 Tiobraid Árann v An Dún
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on November 26, 2019, 05:27:52 PM
Round 2

01/02

Páirc Esler, Newry   19:00 An Dún v Doire


02/02

Gaelic Grounds, Drogheda  14:00 An Lú v Tiobraid Árann 
Avantcard Páirc Sean Mac Diarmada 14:00 Liatroim v Corcaigh 
Bord na Móna O'Connor Park  14:00 Uíbh Fhailí v An Longfort 
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on November 26, 2019, 05:29:22 PM
Round 3

08/02

Derry GAA Centre, Owenbeg  13:00 Doire v Tiobraid Árann 
Glennon Bros. Pearse Park  14:00 An Longfort v Liatroim 
Gaelic Grounds, Drogheda  14:00 An Lú v Uíbh Fhailí 
Páirc Uí Chaoimh, Cork  14:00 Corcaigh v An Dún 
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on November 26, 2019, 05:31:10 PM
Round 4

22/02

Páirc Esler, Newry   19:00 An Dún v An Longfort 
Semple Stadium, Thurles  19:00 Tiobraid Árann v Corcaigh

23/02
Derry GAA Centre, Owenbeg  14:00 Doire v An Lú  Avantcard
Páirc Sean Mac Diarmada 14:00 Liatroim v Uíbh Fhailí
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on November 26, 2019, 05:32:30 PM
Round 5

29/02

Gaelic Grounds, Drogheda  14:00 An Lú v Liatroim 
Páirc Uí Chaoimh, Cork  14:00 Corcaigh v Doire 
Glennon Bros. Pearse Park  14:30 An Longfort v Tiobraid Árann 
Bord na Móna O'Connor Park  14:30 Uíbh Fhailí v An Dún
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on November 26, 2019, 05:34:06 PM
Round 6

14/03

Páirc Esler, Newry   14:00 An Dún v Liatroim 
Páirc Uí Chaoimh, Cork  14:00 Corcaigh v An Lú 
Celtic Park, Derry   14:00 Doire v An Longfort 
Semple Stadium, Thurles  14:00 Tiobraid Árann v Uíbh Fhailí 
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on November 26, 2019, 05:36:03 PM
Round 7

22/03

Glennon Bros. Pearse Park  14:00 An Longfort v Corcaigh 
Gaelic Grounds, Drogheda  14:00 An Lú v An Dún 
Avantcard Páirc Sean Mac Diarmada 14:00 Liatroim v Tiobraid Árann 
Bord na Móna O'Connor Park  14:00 Uíbh Fhailí v Doire 


28/03
Final Páirc an Chrócaigh   TBC 1st Placed Team v 2nd Placed Team
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on November 29, 2019, 08:34:18 PM
Can anyone make sense of those Tipperary odds with Boyle Sports?

(https://i.ibb.co/mNrk1S8/Screenshot-20191129-202612-2.png)
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Gael85 on November 29, 2019, 08:43:57 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 29, 2019, 08:34:18 PM
Can anyone make sense of those Tipperary odds with Boyle Sports?

(https://i.ibb.co/mNrk1S8/Screenshot-20191129-202612-2.png)

Quinlivan gone for the year so will probably finish mid table
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on November 29, 2019, 09:00:42 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on November 29, 2019, 08:43:57 PM
Quinlivan gone for the year so will probably finish mid table
Mid table at worst i can imagine most will expect. They are favourties for relegation there.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on November 30, 2019, 04:13:21 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 29, 2019, 09:00:42 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on November 29, 2019, 08:43:57 PM
Quinlivan gone for the year so will probably finish mid table
Mid table at worst i can imagine most will expect. They are favourties for relegation there.

Boyles odds on GAA can be out-of-whack with other bookies on a lot of occasions.

As a comparison Paddypower have Tipp 5th likeliest to be relegated from Division 3 at 9/4
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2019, 05:23:15 PM
Promoted:

Cork and Down

Relegated

Leitrim and Louth
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: LooseCannon on November 30, 2019, 08:23:43 PM
I reckon that we'll finish top half anyway.
With a bit of luck, might take 2nd. We've more lads on board. We had no depth last year.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: tippabu on December 01, 2019, 07:01:19 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 29, 2019, 09:00:42 PM
Quote from: Gael85 on November 29, 2019, 08:43:57 PM
Quinlivan gone for the year so will probably finish mid table
Mid table at worst i can imagine most will expect. They are favourties for relegation there.

We've lost a few more too along with quinlivan, Liam McGrath and Liam Casey gone too. Talk of other players not involved this year either. I'm very pessimistic ahead of the year. We have 4 away trips, all long journeys Derry, Louth, leitrim and longford. If we get off to a bad start we will be in bother this year. Hope I'm wrong
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: grounded on December 02, 2019, 11:14:07 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2019, 05:23:15 PM
Promoted:

Cork and Down

Relegated

Leitrim and Louth

I dont have the same optimism for Down. Away to Tip, Cork and last day louth. The tier 2 business has to be a big motivating factor for promotion but i dont see where the big improvements can be made.



     
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on December 02, 2019, 04:38:40 PM
I'd still expect to beat Tipp and Louth, we owe Louth big time and it's not much of a journey to that awful kip in Drawda.
It would be a huge bonus if we had a few of the Kilcoo lads on board.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: tbrick18 on January 21, 2020, 01:57:34 PM
So do I understand correctly, that teams promoted this year from Div 3 are in Tier 1 of the championship this year?

I reckon Cork are favorites to go up, with possibly Derry/Down/Tipp fighting for the other spot.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 21, 2020, 04:08:36 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 21, 2020, 01:57:34 PM
So do I understand correctly, that teams promoted this year from Div 3 are in Tier 1 of the championship this year?

I reckon Cork are favorites to go up, with possibly Derry/Down/Tipp fighting for the other spot.

Yes, Cork with their pulling power influenced the change in congress. Can't see it happening but would be funny if Cork miss out on promotion.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: tbrick18 on January 22, 2020, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 21, 2020, 04:08:36 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 21, 2020, 01:57:34 PM
So do I understand correctly, that teams promoted this year from Div 3 are in Tier 1 of the championship this year?

I reckon Cork are favorites to go up, with possibly Derry/Down/Tipp fighting for the other spot.

Yes, Cork with their pulling power influenced the change in congress. Can't see it happening but would be funny if Cork miss out on promotion.

So does that mean teams relegated from Div 2 this year will play in Tier 2 this year? Seems unfair if that's the case.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Rossfan on January 22, 2020, 12:10:34 PM
Teams relegated from D2 will be in the 2nd Tier unless they reach a Provincial Final.
Price of failure !
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 22, 2020, 12:30:39 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 22, 2020, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on January 21, 2020, 04:08:36 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 21, 2020, 01:57:34 PM
So do I understand correctly, that teams promoted this year from Div 3 are in Tier 1 of the championship this year?

I reckon Cork are favorites to go up, with possibly Derry/Down/Tipp fighting for the other spot.

Yes, Cork with their pulling power influenced the change in congress. Can't see it happening but would be funny if Cork miss out on promotion.

So does that mean teams relegated from Div 2 this year will play in Tier 2 this year? Seems unfair if that's the case.
Yes and that wasn't the case until it was changed.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: armaghniac on January 22, 2020, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 22, 2020, 12:10:34 PM
Teams relegated from D2 will be in the 2nd Tier unless they reach a Provincial Final.
Price of failure !

But sure Cork has a good chance of reaching a Provincal final.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: five points on January 22, 2020, 02:52:35 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 22, 2020, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 22, 2020, 12:10:34 PM
Teams relegated from D2 will be in the 2nd Tier unless they reach a Provincial Final.
Price of failure !

But sure Cork has a good chance of reaching a Provincal final.

Not unless they beat Kerry first.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on January 22, 2020, 04:49:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 22, 2020, 12:10:34 PM
Teams relegated from D2 will be in the 2nd Tier unless they reach a Provincial Final.
Price of failure !

The way some are going on about Tier 2 football you'd swear it's going to be the end of the world for the teams who end up in it.
I'd say the only county that it would be a real disaster to end up playing in Tier 2 this summer would be Cork given they were playing Super 8 last summer and the expectation in the county that they have turned things around. I predict that come the end of the summer there's going to be a number of counties who are going to be very pleased with their extended championship and increased amount of games.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: tbrick18 on January 22, 2020, 05:05:54 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 22, 2020, 12:10:34 PM
Teams relegated from D2 will be in the 2nd Tier unless they reach a Provincial Final.
Price of failure !

This just seems wrong to me. So a team that plays Div 2 all year will play in Tier 2 championship in the same year, whilst a team that has played Div3 football all year will play in Tier1 championship.

You'd imagine the Div2 side will be very strong in Tier 2 and the Div3 side will be weak in Tier1.

Would it not have made more sense that in any given year, Tier1 = Div1 + Div2 in that same year, Tier2 = Div3+Div4?
I suppose the terms "sense" and "Gaa" don't always go together.

I'm not knocking the Tier2 setup, I think its good that teams can be competitive. I just don't see the logic behind that qualification route.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2020, 05:26:41 PM
Cork would be a better team then 3 or 4 of the teams in Division 2. They wouldn't be weak in Tier 1.  Tipperary made a All Ireland Semi a few years ago. They will be without Quinlivan this year a big loss.  Sweeney and Jack Kennedy are good forwards though.

It adds more incentive to the League by relegating and promoting teams, to Tier 1 and 2.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 22, 2020, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 22, 2020, 05:26:41 PM
Cork would be a better team then 3 or 4 of the teams in Division 2. They wouldn't be weak in Tier 1.  Tipperary made a All Ireland Semi a few years ago. They will be without Quinlivan this year a big loss.  Sweeney and Jack Kennedy are good forwards though.

It adds more incentive to the League by relegating and promoting teams, to Tier 1 and 2.

Rather odd that they allowed themselves to get relegated so.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: rodney trotter on January 22, 2020, 06:34:16 PM
They clearly improved from the League form in the Championship last year. They are aiming to go back up. Sheehan back. All Ireland u20 and Minor champions last year.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 22, 2020, 06:53:02 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 22, 2020, 06:34:16 PM
They clearly improved from the League form in the Championship last year. They are aiming to go back up. Sheehan back. All Ireland u20 and Minor champions last year.

Two championship wins last summer v Laois and Limerick. Underage success was good but remains to be seen how many of those players will be established senior starters in the years ahead, afterall its not like Cork haven't had underage success before.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: tippabu on January 22, 2020, 07:37:55 PM
What is the situation with odd numbers in the qualifiers?

There's a few different example you could have anything from 1 munster teams in tier 1 championship to 5 teams.

Clare stay in div 2 or beat tipp and wford/limerick
Cork promotion or beat kerry
Tipp promotion or beat clare and wford/limerick
Wford and limerick - whichever wins 1/4 final then beat tipp/clare

You could have highly unlikely situation Cork don't get promotion and beat kerry, clare stay in div 2 tipp get promotion and Waterford / limerick reach a munster final. Are all possibilities for qualifiers thought about, I presume it's not a case if uneven numbers that one team could get a bye?
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 22, 2020, 08:16:30 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 22, 2020, 05:05:54 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 22, 2020, 12:10:34 PM
Teams relegated from D2 will be in the 2nd Tier unless they reach a Provincial Final.
Price of failure !

This just seems wrong to me. So a team that plays Div 2 all year will play in Tier 2 championship in the same year, whilst a team that has played Div3 football all year will play in Tier1 championship.

You'd imagine the Div2 side will be very strong in Tier 2 and the Div3 side will be weak in Tier1.

Would it not have made more sense that in any given year, Tier1 = Div1 + Div2 in that same year, Tier2 = Div3+Div4?
I suppose the terms "sense" and "Gaa" don't always go together.

I'm not knocking the Tier2 setup, I think its good that teams can be competitive. I just don't see the logic behind that qualification route.

I'd have thought the opposite actually, the teams getting promoted are in good form and morale while the teams being relegated are likely to be in a negative frame of mind
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2020, 01:39:11 AM
Quote from: tippabu on January 22, 2020, 07:37:55 PM
What is the situation with odd numbers in the qualifiers?

There's a few different example you could have anything from 1 munster teams in tier 1 championship to 5 teams.

Clare stay in div 2 or beat tipp and wford/limerick
Cork promotion or beat kerry
Tipp promotion or beat clare and wford/limerick
Wford and limerick - whichever wins 1/4 final then beat tipp/clare

You could have highly unlikely situation Cork don't get promotion and beat kerry, clare stay in div 2 tipp get promotion and Waterford / limerick reach a munster final. Are all possibilities for qualifiers thought about, I presume it's not a case if uneven numbers that one team could get a bye?

A bye according to what was proposed.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Shamrock Shore on January 23, 2020, 01:27:19 PM
A visit by Louth to look forward to on Sunday. Surely the O'Byrne Cup celebrations will have ended.

2 pts has to be secured here to have any chance of getting out of Div 3.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: trailer on January 24, 2020, 11:23:19 AM
Big year for a lot of teams in this Division. Will Derry be able to consolidate and stay up? Down missing a few and could also be pulled into the relegation dog fight. You'd imagine Cork and Tipp would have their eyes on promotion.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: turk on January 24, 2020, 10:49:59 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on January 23, 2020, 01:27:19 PM
A visit by Louth to look forward to on Sunday. Surely the O'Byrne Cup celebrations will have ended.

2 pts has to be secured here to have any chance of getting out of Div 3.

The O'Byrne Cup celebrations never end!
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 05:41:33 PM
HT in Celtic Park. Derry 1-8 Leitrim 1-7.   Leitrim led 1-3 to 0-1 in the opening quarter and 1-7 to 0-6 after 30 mins.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on January 25, 2020, 05:42:16 PM
Derry 1-8 Leitrim 1-7 HT

Letrim best in the first ten minutes, went 1-3 to a point up, Derry closed it to a point but Leitrim went on a bit of a run and opened a 4 point gap again, before Bradley goaled in the 32nd minute and Derry tacked on the scores to go in at the break a point up.

https://www.oceanfm.ie/sport-listen-live/
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 06:12:39 PM
 Derry 2-8  Leitrim 1-12. 50 mins played.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 06:39:29 PM
Derry 2-11 Leitrim 1-14. Great result for Leitrim and probably should have won.

Offaly leading Cork 0-9 to 0-8 at half time.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: tippabu on January 26, 2020, 09:32:18 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 06:39:29 PM
Derry 2-11 Leitrim 1-14. Great result for Leitrim and probably should have won.

Offaly leading Cork 0-9 to 0-8 at half time.

One of the games where yes for sure its a great result and something to build on for Leitrim but I'm sure they are coming away bitterly disappointed not to get the win.

Offaly looked like they had a great start against cork but well beat in the end, cant see anything but cork promotion

Todays games will be interesting, Longford are a funny team, they can be very good or very average on any given day. You'd think with slight momentum of winning O'Byrne and todays game in Pearce park they should have enough.

Tipp Down is impossible to call, some bookies have tipp 10/11 favourites some have down 10/11 favourites. Ill be shocked if its not a very low scoring game. Both teams without a number of players, Tipp lost alot of very important players due to travel, hurling. Down down the kilcoo contingiant and obviously Caolan Mooney unfortunately.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on January 26, 2020, 05:40:45 PM
Quote from: tippabu on January 26, 2020, 09:32:18 AM

Offaly looked like they had a great start against cork but well beat in the end, cant see anything but cork promotion


4 out of Cork's 5 subs scored 0-9.
No Offaly sub scored.

In comparison to the rest of the other sides in Division 3 Cork will be a bit ahead in terms of options off the bench.

Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on January 26, 2020, 06:09:50 PM
Cork have the league won. Between Down, Tipp and Derry for second spot.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: tippabu on January 26, 2020, 08:09:24 PM
Quote from: Kingdom37 on January 26, 2020, 06:09:50 PM
Cork have the league won. Between Down, Tipp and Derry for second spot.

Can't call it yet, we lost loads of players this year, Derry struggled badly against the team without meaning to disrespect everyone expected to go down. Down should improve once they get some bodies back. It's going to be very tight and I wouldnt be surprised if there is nothing between 2nd and 6th/7th come last week
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Shamrock Shore on January 26, 2020, 08:19:31 PM
We made very hard work of it beating Louth. Should have by by much more - but a win is a win and the right start to the League.

Will lose to Offaly next week if we play the same way as we did today.

Like to Chinese on the French Revolution it is too early to tell the defo promotions - well, apart from Cork I s'pose.

Leitrim surprised me I must say  - so shame they didn't get the two points.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: tbrick18 on January 27, 2020, 11:57:00 AM
After that first weekend, if you take Cork out of it there's next to nothing between the sides.
Teams all on a similar level, so impossible to predict who will go up/down.
2 draws certainly throws it wide open.

Derry v Down is already a must win game for both teams if either have promotion aspirations.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 02, 2020, 05:47:38 PM
A draw just about a fair result.

Game wasn't for the purists. At the end they were like two aul heavyweight boxers slogging it out....not able for the knock out punch.

Offaly maybe shuda won. They had some awful wides and hit the post with 5 mins to go.

Stay in Div 3 is best either of us can aspire to.

Ref had some unique decisions. Prob more against Offaly but he's from Mayo.....so he would know feck all about football.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on February 02, 2020, 06:49:15 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPyDIzPWkAA_Yob?format=jpg&name=medium)

Cork v Down next week, I'm not looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 03, 2020, 11:10:20 AM
Longford are at home to Leitrim next week and I would have to say that we are more than capable of getting the points on offer here, and possibly Div 3 security.

A welcome break (Longford have been on the go since early Jan) and then it's a Sat night game in Newry which will be a decent test.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Aristo 60 on February 03, 2020, 11:31:06 AM
Even after just 2 rounds it is shaping up to be a league of the haves and the have nots.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 08, 2020, 12:12:14 AM
https://www.the42.ie/cork-down-football-league-division-3-4994765-Feb2020/
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on February 09, 2020, 08:32:20 AM
Can anyone see today's games going ahead? We've had 12 hours non stop rain here in Dublin, I can't imagine it's much different in most of the country.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 09, 2020, 06:35:27 PM
Longford 2-14
Leitrim 1-09

Not a great game in a swirly gale so we'll simply move on.

Longford's goal in injury time at the end sealed victory. Leitrim had good patches but they just couldn't handle the wind.

2 weeks now to the promotion challenge with Down in Newry. Winners here will fancy their changes of being promoted with the langers.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 22, 2020, 09:08:35 PM
The two results in Div 3 tonight.

Down 2-13 Longford 1-14
Tipperary 0-21 Cork 3-13
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 22, 2020, 10:41:40 PM
Tough on Tipp to score 21 times and lose.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on February 23, 2020, 08:31:08 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERezD7bWsAU3aEK?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 24, 2020, 08:44:30 AM
Getting very interesting.

Offaly v Down on sunday will be the standout fixture. Winner will fancy their promotion chances.

We have Tipp at home so we hope to be there and there abouts come the last day.

Looks like Leitrim and Louth for the soup.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Aristo 60 on February 24, 2020, 10:10:35 AM
What are the last 3 matches for each of the promotion contenders?

Down's are:

Offaly away
Leitrim home
Louth away

Should go to the last day you would think and Down would need to not only get the points but put up a big score somewhere too.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: snoopdog on February 24, 2020, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on February 24, 2020, 10:10:35 AM
What are the last 3 matches for each of the promotion contenders?

Down's are:

Offaly away
Leitrim home
Louth away

Should go to the last day you would think and Down would need to not only get the points but put up a big score somewhere too.
I assumed 3 wins for Down would be sufficient. As head to head would put them above Derry and Longford and Offally.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Aristo 60 on February 24, 2020, 10:49:59 AM
But if we don't beat Offaly and there is a three way tie between us Derry and Offaly? What happens then? We would need a better SD?

Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: extra time on February 24, 2020, 10:52:18 AM
Surely if Cork keep on winning it will affect the lower positions. Down have played Cork but i think Derry and Longford have still to play them.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: extra time on February 24, 2020, 10:57:02 AM
Plus Derry and Longford still to play each other.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Aristo 60 on February 24, 2020, 11:02:01 AM
Right, thanks, well that will help. That's why I was asking for the run in for each of the promotion candidates.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: tbrick18 on February 24, 2020, 11:10:16 AM
Derry play Cork next.
Down look like favorites for 2nd spot now with their run in.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Aristo 60 on February 24, 2020, 11:47:07 AM
Yes sounds like it. Trying to get that confirmed by Paddy Power!
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 24, 2020, 02:58:10 PM
Paddy Power updated odds

To be promoted

Cork 1/100
Down 11/10
Derry 5/2
Offaly 3/1
Longford 11/2
Tipperary 11/1

To be relegated

Louth 1/16
Leitrim 1/10
Tipperary 4/1
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on February 25, 2020, 11:52:26 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on February 24, 2020, 11:10:16 AM
Derry play Cork next.
Down look like favorites for 2nd spot now with their run in.

We thought that last year, only had to beat Louth in Newry on the last day.

There always seems to be a twist in the league, hopefully it won't be us this year.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 26, 2020, 01:36:22 PM
Down will f*ck it up somehow.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 26, 2020, 02:44:13 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on February 26, 2020, 01:36:22 PM
Down will f*ck it up somehow.

Armagh f*cked up when promotion was there for the taking in 2017 and didn't make the same mistake the following year. I'd expect Down to join Cork in Division 2 next year.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on March 01, 2020, 09:33:34 AM
Early morning pitch inspection and we've got the green light!

Allianz League double-header in Bord na Mona O'Connor Park today.

Hurlers v Wicklow at 12.30pm

Footballers v Down at 2.30pm

Only €10 for adults, €5 for students/OAPs
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on March 01, 2020, 05:34:00 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on February 26, 2020, 01:36:22 PM
Down will f*ck it up somehow.

Down have Leitrim at home and Louth away.
Longford have Derry away and Cork at home.
Down have the advantage if its two teams level on points having won the head-to-head but Longford have the a score difference of +14 compared to Down's +7
Derry and Offaly play each other in the final round so one of those could well come into the mix depending on who wins that.

Louth are gone and pretty much between Tipp and Leitrim to join them [Derry and Offaly are likely to be safe given previous results and score difference ] - Tipp and Leitrim play each other in the last round so that looks like it will be a relegation decider.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 01, 2020, 06:35:05 PM
Lively match between Longford and Tipp.

But all money must be on Down now to go on. I was hoping Offaly would do us a favour but no.....but, c'est la vie.

I'll be in Derry in two weeks time as Horslips are playing the night before. I may be the only Longford supporter there!
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on March 01, 2020, 08:30:48 PM
Division 3
Team   P   W   D   L   +/-   Pts.
1 Cork       5   5   0   0   24   10
2 Longford 5   3   1   1   14   7
3 Down     5   3   1   1   7   7
4 Derry     5   2   1   2   4   5
5 Offaly     5   2   1   2   -4   5
6 Tipp       5   1   1   3   -9   3
7 Leitrim   5   1   1   3   -17   3
8 Louth     5   0   0   5   -19   0
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2020, 08:35:51 PM
That table is wrong. Down are second on head to head.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on March 01, 2020, 08:57:38 PM
Ammended table to include head to head.

Team   P   W   D   L   +/-   Pts.
1 Cork       5   5   0   0   24   10
2 Down     5   3   1   1   7   7
3 Longford 5   3   1   1   14   7
4 Derry     5   2   1   2   4   5
5 Offaly     5   2   1   2   -4   5
6 Tipp       5   1   1   3   -9   3
7 Leitrim   5   1   1   3   -17   3
8 Louth     5   0   0   5   -19   0



Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Keyser soze on March 02, 2020, 11:59:53 AM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 01, 2020, 06:35:05 PM
Lively match between Longford and Tipp.

But all money must be on Down now to go on. I was hoping Offaly would do us a favour but no.....but, c'est la vie.

I'll be in Derry in two weeks time as Horslips are playing the night before. I may be the only Longford supporter there!

Where?
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 02, 2020, 01:13:48 PM
St. Columb's Hall on Sat 14 and Sun 15 March.

Tickets are available for Sun methinks.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Aristo 60 on March 02, 2020, 02:18:41 PM
Very disappointed in the display from Offaly on Sunday. Down had huge tail wind in the first half but aside from a 10 min spell at the start of the second half when Down were reduced to 14 men Offaly showed very, very little. If the league table is an accurate reflection of where all teams are at there can't be much fight in either Louth or Leitrim.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on March 02, 2020, 04:23:43 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on March 02, 2020, 02:18:41 PM
Very disappointed in the display from Offaly on Sunday. Down had huge tail wind in the first half but aside from a 10 min spell at the start of the second half when Down were reduced to 14 min Offaly showed very, very little. If the league table is an accurate reflection of were all teams are at there can't be much fight in either Louth or Leitrim.

League tables don't lie alright. Leitrim still have a chance of staying up, level on points with Tipperary and play them in Carrick-on-Shannon in round 7.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: LooseCannon on March 02, 2020, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on March 02, 2020, 02:18:41 PM
Very disappointed in the display from Offaly on Sunday. Down had huge tail wind in the first half but aside from a 10 min spell at the start of the second half when Down were reduced to 14 men Offaly showed very, very little. If the league table is an accurate reflection of where all teams are at there can't be much fight in either Louth or Leitrim.

Imagine how I feel😖!
Completely out of ideas. Just meh, I'm not writing about it because it'd only annoy me.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Aristo 60 on March 03, 2020, 04:38:27 PM
Well on a brighter note the stand and facilities are better in Tullamore than Newry (very impressed with the Media centre opposite the stand) and generally the place (footpaths and everywhere else) was an awful lot cleaner than will be the case for our next away trip (to durtee drawdaa)  :-\

Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on March 04, 2020, 10:58:22 PM
The Allianz Football League Game Down v Leitrim will now take on Saturday 14th March @7.00pm in Pairc Esler as opposed to Sunday 15th March.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Aristo 60 on March 11, 2020, 02:47:15 PM
Paddy Power have Leitrim at 5/1. Not bad in a two horse race, unless of course Leitrim football is more of a dog than a horse.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on March 12, 2020, 11:05:40 AM
Quote from: Aristo 60 on March 11, 2020, 02:47:15 PM
Paddy Power have Leitrim at 5/1. Not bad in a two horse race, unless of course Leitrim football is more of a dog than a horse.

What are the odds on this weekend's games going ahead at this stage?
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Targetman on March 12, 2020, 12:59:52 PM
Its looking like cancellations countrywide
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ambrose on March 12, 2020, 01:55:01 PM
Quote from: Targetman on March 12, 2020, 12:59:52 PM
Its looking like cancellations countrywide

Tier two for Cork and Down in the Championship then?
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: armaghniac on March 12, 2020, 02:13:16 PM
What championship?
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Aristo 60 on March 26, 2020, 07:07:57 PM
Think it should be done on a predicted grades basis. Ie Down were most likely to be heading up
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: tbrick18 on March 29, 2020, 10:18:01 AM
I think the whole year should be reset.
Start again next year.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: snoopdog on March 29, 2020, 10:47:23 AM
I would expect if leagues cant be finished then the 2nd tier wont Starr this year. I'd expect total knockout as I doubt that sport will be back before July.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Mourne Rover on March 29, 2020, 01:07:52 PM
If there is going to be any form of championship this year, counties will not want to enter it without preparatory games. The remaining two league rounds could be completed in the space of a week, with the divisional play-offs abandoned and the championship following immediately. However, the timescale depends on entirely unpredictable outside events.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Shamrock Shore on October 27, 2020, 12:59:04 PM
Quality prediction there from myself. Shame I hadn't a few bob on it.

Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 30, 2019, 05:23:15 PM
Promoted:

Cork and Down

Relegated

Leitrim and Louth
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: The Boy Wonder on October 27, 2020, 10:10:57 PM
From the42.ie  :   Cork manager hits out at Longford for 'appalling' decision that creates 'dangerous precedent'

https://www.the42.ie/cork-ronan-mccarthy-2-5246177-Oct2020/ (https://www.the42.ie/cork-ronan-mccarthy-2-5246177-Oct2020/)

What was the reason for Longford giving Cork a walkover ?
It seems very strange that it was sanctioned by the GAA.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Rossfan on October 27, 2020, 11:20:10 PM
Saving on Cork's expenses which presumably have to come from Central Council??
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Shamrock Shore on October 28, 2020, 08:08:14 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on October 27, 2020, 10:10:57 PM
From the42.ie  :   Cork manager hits out at Longford for 'appalling' decision that creates 'dangerous precedent'

https://www.the42.ie/cork-ronan-mccarthy-2-5246177-Oct2020/ (https://www.the42.ie/cork-ronan-mccarthy-2-5246177-Oct2020/)

What was the reason for Longford giving Cork a walkover ?
It seems very strange that it was sanctioned by the GAA.

The game would have cost 12-15k to stage. Cork were sending up the juniors. Longford were fielding a dummy side as well.
What was the point in these Covid times putting us through the misery?
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: The Boy Wonder on October 28, 2020, 08:52:28 PM
Allianz FL3 P   W   D   L   Dif   Pts
Cork (C)   7   7   0   0   42   14
Down (P)   7   4   1   2   0   9
Derry   7   4   1   2   15   9
Longford   7   3   1   3   6   7

If Longford had beaten Cork then Down, Derry & Longford would have tied on 9 points.
Am I correct in saying that in that situation Derry would have been promoted and not Down ?

Granted Down fielded an understrength team against Louth with promotion guaranteed.
However the Longford decision to give Cork a walkover seems very questionable to say the least.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 28, 2020, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on October 28, 2020, 08:52:28 PM
Allianz FL3 P   W   D   L   Dif   Pts
Cork (C)   7   7   0   0   42   14
Down (P)   7   4   1   2   0   9
Derry   7   4   1   2   15   9
Longford   7   3   1   3   6   7

If Longford had beaten Cork then Down, Derry & Longford would have tied on 9 points.
Am I correct in saying that in that situation Derry would have been promoted and not Down ?

Granted Down fielded an understrength team against Louth with promotion guaranteed.
However the Longford decision to give Cork a walkover seems very questionable to say the least.

You are correct. Scoring difference when more than two teams level on points.
Title: Re: Allianz League Division 3 2020
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 28, 2020, 11:17:37 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 28, 2020, 10:02:56 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on October 28, 2020, 08:52:28 PM
Allianz FL3 P   W   D   L   Dif   Pts
Cork (C)   7   7   0   0   42   14
Down (P)   7   4   1   2   0   9
Derry   7   4   1   2   15   9
Longford   7   3   1   3   6   7

If Longford had beaten Cork then Down, Derry & Longford would have tied on 9 points.
Am I correct in saying that in that situation Derry would have been promoted and not Down ?

Granted Down fielded an understrength team against Louth with promotion guaranteed.
However the Longford decision to give Cork a walkover seems very questionable to say the least.

You are correct. Scoring difference when more than two teams level on points.

Unless Longford won by 10 points, then Longford would go up.