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Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« on: November 22, 2017, 08:13:55 PM »
At the Sinn Fein party conference last week, there was the expected praise for Martin McGuinness.

Yet unionists are upset, that nationalists should honour their dead.

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A couple of weeks ago, the whole country had to stop whilst unionists honoured their fallen heroes. Some people are even shamed into buying poppies.

Is this not the biggest of double standards?
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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2017, 08:17:46 PM »
Do you expect anything else from those blinkered floots?
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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2017, 08:23:40 PM »
At the Sinn Fein party conference last week, there was the expected praise for Martin McGuinness.

Yet unionists are upset, that nationalists should honour their dead.

wee link

A couple of weeks ago, the whole country had to stop whilst unionists honoured their fallen heroes. Some people are even shamed into buying poppies.

Is this not the biggest of double standards?
Not just unionists who are upset.  I'm sure Patsy Gillespie's family were upset too.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/martin-mcguinness-refuses-to-condemn-ira-human-bomb-attack-in-1990-dubbed-the-work-of-satan-by-catholic-bishop-29733940.html

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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2017, 08:31:18 PM »
At the Sinn Fein party conference last week, there was the expected praise for Martin McGuinness.

Yet unionists are upset, that nationalists should honour their dead.

wee link

A couple of weeks ago, the whole country had to stop whilst unionists honoured their fallen heroes. Some people are even shamed into buying poppies.

Is this not the biggest of double standards?
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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2017, 09:29:28 PM »
Honoring McGuiness is as turgid and regressive as honoring Paisley. Both are best forgotten.

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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2017, 09:31:45 PM »
Honoring McGuiness is as turgid and regressive as honoring Paisley. Both are best forgotten.

So mcguinness had nompisitive contribution since 1990 ??

Whitewash and ignore history at your peril

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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2017, 09:33:32 PM »
Honoring McGuiness is as turgid and regressive as honoring Paisley. Both are best forgotten.

So mcguinness had nompisitive contribution since 1990 ??

Whitewash and ignore history at your peril

Just because you start to mop up the blood you spilt it doesn’t mean you’re absolved from spilling it in the first place.

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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2017, 09:33:51 PM »
Honoring McGuiness is as turgid and regressive as honoring Paisley. Both are best forgotten.

An ignorant free stater comment if ever I saw one.

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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2017, 09:39:54 PM »
Honoring McGuiness is as turgid and regressive as honoring Paisley. Both are best forgotten.

So mcguinness had nompisitive contribution since 1990 ??

Whitewash and ignore history at your peril

Just because you start to mop up the blood you spilt it doesn’t mean you’re absolved from spilling it in the first place.

How long is a piece of string? Because if we go that route, then hardly any leader deserves honouring.
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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2017, 09:46:35 PM »
Lads its all about the sound bites with the DUP at the minute. If you say the same thing over and over again eventually people will take it in as gospel. Look at brexit, the DUP/Tories keep saying there will be no physical border whilst every sane man/woman on the street knows there will be, but they will keep saying it as it will stop people from mobilising any real counter action to it. Then when the customs checkpoints go up the talk will be that this is only a temporary measure until a final non physical solution is found but we know that is never going to happen.

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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2017, 09:59:42 PM »
Honoring McGuiness is as turgid and regressive as honoring Paisley. Both are best forgotten.

So mcguinness had nompisitive contribution since 1990 ??

Whitewash and ignore history at your peril

Just because you start to mop up the blood you spilt it doesn’t mean you’re absolved from spilling it in the first place.

How long is a piece of string? Because if we go that route, then hardly any leader deserves honouring.

There’s a whole hell of a lot of difference between Enda Kenny and Martin McGuiness. One was a career politician, the other ran a terrorist organisation blowing up civilians and robbing banks when it saw fit an who did a bit of politics on the side.

The gun stoppped being an acceptable part of Irish politics a long time before people like McGuiness realised it and it’s the main reason no one will enter government with SF.

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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2017, 10:13:08 PM »
Honoring McGuiness is as turgid and regressive as honoring Paisley. Both are best forgotten.

So mcguinness had nompisitive contribution since 1990 ??

Whitewash and ignore history at your peril

Just because you start to mop up the blood you spilt it doesn’t mean you’re absolved from spilling it in the first place.

How long is a piece of string? Because if we go that route, then hardly any leader deserves honouring.

There’s a whole hell of a lot of difference between Enda Kenny and Martin McGuiness. One was a career politician, the other ran a terrorist organisation blowing up civilians and robbing banks when it saw fit an who did a bit of politics on the side.

The gun stoppped being an acceptable part of Irish politics a long time before people like McGuiness realised it and it’s the main reason no one will enter government with SF.

I know I shouldn’t, but at what point did the gun become unacceptable? And what made it acceptable before that?
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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2017, 10:21:06 PM »
I know I shouldn't also but should FF be in a position to be the senior partner in a majority coalition government with SF after the next election, I think discussions about the politics and morality of the use of the gun in the recent war v all the forces that supported the planters, will conveniently be put on the back burner.

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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2017, 10:21:54 PM »
Honoring McGuiness is as turgid and regressive as honoring Paisley. Both are best forgotten.

So mcguinness had nompisitive contribution since 1990 ??

Whitewash and ignore history at your peril

Just because you start to mop up the blood you spilt it doesn’t mean you’re absolved from spilling it in the first place.

How long is a piece of string? Because if we go that route, then hardly any leader deserves honouring.

There’s a whole hell of a lot of difference between Enda Kenny and Martin McGuiness. One was a career politician, the other ran a terrorist organisation blowing up civilians and robbing banks when it saw fit an who did a bit of politics on the side.

The gun stoppped being an acceptable part of Irish politics a long time before people like McGuiness realised it and it’s the main reason no one will enter government with SF.

You are correct.  Mc Guinness was a man of principle which is more can be said about the blue shirt from the west

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Re: Terrorist Glorification versus Honouring Fallen Heroes
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2017, 10:23:13 PM »
Syferus, you generally make a lot of good posts. However I feel you need to have lived in the north before making comments like you did earlier.
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