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Home advantage counts in every sport. To think different contravenes every known published article on it. Croke Park is a massive advantage to Dublin and that shouldn't be even up for debate.
Sure but what % difference does it make? GAA has different fan dynamics to soccer. Maybe they can't be compared.

Also this Dub team looks very like Cody pomp Kilkenny.  Will Kildare be ready for the fall or can we expect more of the battered wife commentary indefinitely?

In soccer it's worth 0.6 of a goal.
In NFL is 2.8 points.
In AFL it's 7 points.
In NBA it's 2.33 points
In Super Rugby it's worth 5 & 10 points if International Travel involved.

So based on the above I would say Croke is worth 2/3 points to Dublin, enough to win 4 All-Irelands by a point...

As for a Kildare being a battered wife, a bit of a crude analogy do you not think? It's not the physical beatings it's the lack of support from outside the province and indeed the narrative that Leinster is sh*t and Meath/Kildare must do better that's probably done more harm as people just ignored the evidence to the contrary until now.
Maybe it is but I would assocate  Kildare fans with insight and the odd whine. Poor Kildare. Woe is Kildare. 
All great teams die eventually. Kildare should be thinking ahead .And Kildare are ahead of the rest of Leinster.

Who is going to change the system?  You need to be organised to do that.

You could look at the hurling experience in  Galway. We got hammered numerous times by Kilkenny. Some of them were dreadful. There were some awful managers as well. Ger Loughnane.
But the people involved never gave up. They broke with the old system in 2011 and went for youth . Could have won the final in 2012 but didn't have the experience. Kept at it. And then Kilkenny imploded. And who was left standing ?


That must be one of the greatest pieces of Rubbish written on this board!

+1

The ultimate seal of approval from someone who'd know.

Someone still hasn't gotten over the flaking, I see. I suppose it's commendable because most Galway supporters have forgotten football and hurling even exist by now.. :'(

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Home advantage counts in every sport. To think different contravenes every known published article on it. Croke Park is a massive advantage to Dublin and that shouldn't be even up for debate.
Sure but what % difference does it make? GAA has different fan dynamics to soccer. Maybe they can't be compared.

Also this Dub team looks very like Cody pomp Kilkenny.  Will Kildare be ready for the fall or can we expect more of the battered wife commentary indefinitely?

In soccer it's worth 0.6 of a goal.
In NFL is 2.8 points.
In AFL it's 7 points.
In NBA it's 2.33 points
In Super Rugby it's worth 5 & 10 points if International Travel involved.

So based on the above I would say Croke is worth 2/3 points to Dublin, enough to win 4 All-Irelands by a point...

As for a Kildare being a battered wife, a bit of a crude analogy do you not think? It's not the physical beatings it's the lack of support from outside the province and indeed the narrative that Leinster is sh*t and Meath/Kildare must do better that's probably done more harm as people just ignored the evidence to the contrary until now.
Maybe it is but I would assocate  Kildare fans with insight and the odd whine. Poor Kildare. Woe is Kildare. 
All great teams die eventually. Kildare should be thinking ahead .And Kildare are ahead of the rest of Leinster.

Who is going to change the system?  You need to be organised to do that.

You could look at the hurling experience in  Galway. We got hammered numerous times by Kilkenny. Some of them were dreadful. There were some awful managers as well. Ger Loughnane.
But the people involved never gave up. They broke with the old system in 2011 and went for youth . Could have won the final in 2012 but didn't have the experience. Kept at it. And then Kilkenny imploded. And who was left standing ?


That must be one of the greatest pieces of Rubbish written on this board!

+1

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This one is in even more poor taste than the others.

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The biggest questions I had after the game is who will stop Dublin from going 4, 5 or even 6 in a row? And when will that be?
Kerry with their 4 minors should start to see some of the talent flow through to Senior so my guess is they will be the team to stop them. Mayo, while I'd love to see them back I don't know how they same group of lads keep going to the well. Is there another run in them?
Other counties need to get their act togather. Absolutely no reason why Kildare, Meath, Galway and Cork aren't as good as Mayo (and I'm talking about semi final and final Mayo). Then we'd have a great All Ireland series every year. Probably a couple of the Ulster counties should be a bit better too.

Also, there's no doubt that Mayo players work harder on the pitch than any players in the above named counties. I don't know why that it is, but no reason for the other counties not to have the same work rate that Mayo have.

Completely agree. Galway (who have beaten Mayo for the past two years) and Roscommon (if they stick with McStay and perhaps coax one or two of the dissenters back) should be stronger next year. Similarly Cork and Kildare.  Tyrone and Kerry will be back again and there could be a bolter or two from the pack. Dublin appear unbeatable but Mayo have proven that they can be beaten if a team is brave and confident enough to engage them on their own terms. It time for the era of fear to end. Teams need to dispense with blanket defenses and trust in their own ability.

Galway have enough forward power to trouble Dublin, but haven't the midfield, backs or manager to contest it with them. Division I should show them how to consistently play against the better teams, but the defence needs 4 new players at least from this year.

I'm sure Jim Gavin is quaking in his boots at the prospect of Danny Cummins kicking his fifth wide of the match next spring.

No more so than he is at the thoughts of any Roscommon player in the super 8s i'd imagine........

Given one hammered the other a few weeks ago you scored a bit of an own goal with that comeback.

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The biggest questions I had after the game is who will stop Dublin from going 4, 5 or even 6 in a row? And when will that be?
Kerry with their 4 minors should start to see some of the talent flow through to Senior so my guess is they will be the team to stop them. Mayo, while I'd love to see them back I don't know how they same group of lads keep going to the well. Is there another run in them?
Other counties need to get their act togather. Absolutely no reason why Kildare, Meath, Galway and Cork aren't as good as Mayo (and I'm talking about semi final and final Mayo). Then we'd have a great All Ireland series every year. Probably a couple of the Ulster counties should be a bit better too.

Also, there's no doubt that Mayo players work harder on the pitch than any players in the above named counties. I don't know why that it is, but no reason for the other counties not to have the same work rate that Mayo have.

Completely agree. Galway (who have beaten Mayo for the past two years) and Roscommon (if they stick with McStay and perhaps coax one or two of the dissenters back) should be stronger next year. Similarly Cork and Kildare.  Tyrone and Kerry will be back again and there could be a bolter or two from the pack. Dublin appear unbeatable but Mayo have proven that they can be beaten if a team is brave and confident enough to engage them on their own terms. It time for the era of fear to end. Teams need to dispense with blanket defenses and trust in their own ability.

Galway have enough forward power to trouble Dublin, but haven't the midfield, backs or manager to contest it with them. Division I should show them how to consistently play against the better teams, but the defence needs 4 new players at least from this year.

I'm sure Jim Gavin is quaking in his boots at the prospect of Danny Cummins kicking his fifth wide of the match next spring.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2017 All-Stars
« on: Today at 01:42:03 PM »
Enda Smith possibly and Geaney at a push. The rest from the two finalists. Anything else is tokenistic nonsense.

Smith? He's lucky to be nominated. I can't recall him playing too well against Mayo.

I can't recall too many Mayo folk playing well against Galway. Or Derry. Should they all be ruled out?

Smith's performance against Galway was the best individual performance I saw all year and his ability to pre-occupy Lee Keegan was the main reason Roscommon got a replay.

The fourth best chance on that list of midfielders, but possibly still a chance.

Ahead of Kung Fu Cavanagh and the Kildare chap.

All Stars have been pointless since 2005 and arguably long before that.

Only a Roscommon man would take Smith over Cavanagh.  Cavanagh was immense this year.  Don't think Rock or Aidan O'Se should get one either but they probably will as we all know by now how this sham of an awards process works.

Only a Tyronie would say something that daft and follow up with praise for their own man.

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General discussion / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: Today at 12:25:32 AM »
Andre Ward announces his retirement  :o

Sure he was no good according to some in here :o

Like Mayweather, his style was easy to appreciate academically but impossible to love. Unlike Mayweather he wasn't a total jackass out of the ring, though.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2017 All-Stars
« on: September 21, 2017, 11:20:22 PM »
Clarke
Fitzsimmons Harrison Higgins
McCaffrey Barret Boyle
Parsons McCarthy
McLoughlin AOS O'Callaghan
Doherty Geaney Moran

Mayo bias perhaps? 🙈

Harrison and AOS shouldn't be let near the All-Star team. Parsons hardly deserves one either to be honest, SOS was the workhorse for Mayo and if he had more than 50 minutes in him he probably could have made the grade.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2017 All-Stars
« on: September 21, 2017, 10:54:09 PM »
I’d suggest that 4 players have been nominated from to reduce bias for one particular player.  Like the Hurling last year, where Gleeson picked up the POTY award, despite not playing the AI final. The two Tipp players had their vote halved and Gleeson was able to pick up the award. 
This year, in the hurling the award looks to be heading to Canning as two Waterford hurlers were selected alongside him.  If it was Canning, McInerney and Barron nominated, then there is a strong possibility of Barron being chosen.
This is arguably the most sensible comment so far on this POTY debate

That logic makes sense, except that David Clarke was not the second best player on that mayo team this year!
Having attended all Mayo's games this year I'd beg to differ. A trawl through posts on the board will show that Andy was being written off as over the hill until the Cork match. The same could be said for Boyler. Keegan was a slow burner this year and both Keith and Durcan got sent off needlessly. SOS was poor, Parsons was carrying injuries, AOS didnt come into his own until the Derry game, Doherty until the Ros game, McLoughlinn until the Ros replay, both O Connors have had better seasons. If it weren't for Mr Dependable in goal we would have been gone early in the summer. So if he wasn't the second best player it might have been that he was the best.

I'll bow to your superior knowledge of Mayo football, I've only seen some of their games on TV and attended a few of their games in Croke park.
I agree with you about Andy moran, his best football came in the later part of the season (but rightly or wrongly All stars and POTY awards tend to get judged on the later part of the season!). So I'd have him ahead of clarke.
Similar with Boyle IMO.
Also, I'd have AOS ahead of Clarke, there were a couple of qualifer games where he was outstanding. I think it was the Derry game where Mayo would have been beaten without him.
Would you not have Harrison ahead of clarke as well?

I'm not trying to knock Clarke here. I don't think he had a bad year. But Not footballer of the year material IMO.

However, as I said you've seen all their games so you are probably in a better position to judge.
I'm not picking an argument with you but, as I have pointed out in other threads leading up to the final, the improvement in Mayo was very gradual throughout the qualifiers. Harrison played his first game of the season in the Derry game and was subbed off. His form improved game on game but you wouldn't have picked him out before the Kerry games. AOS was given MOTM in two games (Derry & Clare) but in general outfield players tend to get more attention than goalkeepers. If players were marked on each game then I think Clarke would come out on top in Mayo terms because he was consistently good. If truth be told and I took off my Mayo shirt, I wouldn't give POTY to any of the Mayo team. I think it was the collective that got them through with occasional inspirational performances from a variety of players.

Mayo would have been one and done in the Quailifers without Andy Moran.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2017 All-Stars
« on: September 21, 2017, 09:25:54 PM »
Enda Smith possibly and Geaney at a push. The rest from the two finalists. Anything else is tokenistic nonsense.

Smith? He's lucky to be nominated. I can't recall him playing too well against Mayo.

Beat the reigning PotY in the second half of the drawn game. Made a better fist of playing him than the lad with a 40 page thread here ever did.

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GAA Discussion / Re: 2017 All-Stars
« on: September 21, 2017, 06:13:38 PM »
Pick it

Cluxton (very close with Clarke but shades it due to superior kickouts)

Harrison (had Fitzsimons ahead before Sunday but he was roasted in the final)
Higgins (perpetual motion™)
Barrett (his best ever year for Mayo)

McCaffrey (missed the final but still deserves one)
Keegan (outstanding up to the Roscommon draw and roared back to his best in the final)
Boyle (lionhearted™)

Parsons (only one midfield spot up for grabs, shades it from Fenton and Cavanagh)
McCarthy (automatic)

McLoughlin (overtook Kilkenny who was wiped out in the final)
O'Callaghan (was quite patchy in most of his displays but you can't ignore mercurial genius)
Mannion (excellent all year and when it mattered)
Doherty (thoroughly deserved)
Rock (stood up in the final and has earned it - Kerry may get one here but it would be undeserved)
Moran (automatic - FOTY)

And that's it.

Mayo 9
Dublin 6
The rest 0

Mayo will get 6 or 7 max.
I'm not particularly interested in what Mayo will get - I suspect you're correct in your assertion that they will get only 6 or 7.

I'm interested in who should get what though.

Sure you are. That's why you've got a glorified free-taker at 14 over Geaney.

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General discussion / Re: Best Concert ever
« on: September 21, 2017, 05:42:39 PM »
Popular response, but Dave Navarro didn't warp (nice use of the word) them, he was at best 1/4 of the band. One Hot Minute was anything but generic, and the sound shift was heavily due to Keidis' relapses. Still one of my favourite albums.

I don't think we can say one is a better player than the other - I agree JK is a better fit for the RHCP, but original he ain't.

Suck my Kiss and Give it Away, while two of the most popular songs, wouldn't be considered 2 of the best - except for nostalgia and impact purposes.

Good Times though.

Suck My Kiss was voted the fifth best RHCP song by Rolling Stone and Give It Away won a Grammy and was "included in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's unordered list of the "500 Songs That Shaped Rock"; in 2002 Kerrang! placed the song at number 67 in their list of the "100 Greatest Singles of All Time"; in 2004 Q included it in their unordered list of the "1001 Songs You Must Own!"; and VH1 awarded the song the 50th spot in its 2009 compilation of the "100 Greatest Hard Rock Songs"." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_It_Away_(Red_Hot_Chili_Peppers_song)

Both were popular and critical hits.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaaboard alternative Allstars
« on: September 21, 2017, 04:08:26 PM »
For pre AIF gaiscíocht.

For unlovely counties.
For forgotten deeds.  The anti TSG anti commercial Director

I would suggest :

Enda Smith - Ros
Daniel Flynn -Flourbags
Donie Kingston -Laois
Someone from Mullinalaghta.
Brendan Murphy- Carlow
I have nothing against any of the named players but your selection method is as flawed as that of the journos. Enda Smith had one outstanding performance all year . How does that qualify him as the top/joint top midfielder in the country. Or are you simply trying to get Syferus on side?
 I can feel a belt of the crozier coming. ;D

Enda Smith was MotM in the semi too. Basically the guaranteed Connacht PotY. Don’t let facts get in the way of a jibe at a Rossie, though.

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General discussion / Re: Best Concert ever
« on: September 21, 2017, 02:15:44 PM »
I’m glad RHCP fans still get to hear them. JK Is a good player but it’s good that the band are nearing the end rather than growing the music - Id rather lep in the DeLorean and hear them with Dave Navarro (woefully under rated album and time with the RHCP - he was hung out to dry by their addictions and inability to deal with Fruiscante’s first hiatus).

12-13 years ago was the hayday of Californication and BTW, by the way - it wasn’t a BSSM fest at their shows back then. Those albums are 18 and 16 years old respectively (I rounded up). BSSM is almost 25 years old, fooking hell!

Unfortunately JK is really just there for continuity of the Fruiscante sound - even their decent new songs just have that Fruiscante feel on the guitar sections. Nothing wrong with that - it’s just safe. Not an approach the Chilli Peppers made their name with!

The Getaway is a good album to be honest, and the reaction for Dark Necessities was better than for Suck My Kiss. Klinghoffer has apprenticed with RHCP for a very long  time - he was writing songs with Frusciante as far back as his 2004 solo album Shadows Collide with People. Klinghoffer would have been 22-23 at that time.

The reason he sounds similar is as much a product of his musical education as it is any kind of attempt to replace like for like. It should be remembered how young Frusciante was when he joined, and indeed a big part of why he got the job was he had learnt the Peppers’ back catalogue off by heart and was a sort of super fan. Klinghoffer is certainly far better than Dave Navarro, who warped RHCP into a sort of generic alt rock band. It’s the funk, melody and energy that makes them special and Klinghoffer fits that perfectly.

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GAA Discussion / Re: We need to talk about Diarmuid
« on: September 21, 2017, 01:43:17 PM »
Connolly is a fantastic player. That shouldn't be in doubt. His position in the all time greats list will only ever be opinion. Let's be honest, none of us are on a position to say one way or the other really

We are in the very best position to judge him.

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