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Armagh / Re: Club Hurling in Armagh
« on: August 11, 2022, 12:28:49 PM »
Bump

Just looking at the Armagh GAA website to catch up on the club championship. I see at U15 there's a "North Armagh Hurling Club" that played against Keady in the U15 hurling league. Is this an amalgamated Lurgan/Portadown team for U15? Are they really that short of numbers at that age? I've seen Sean Treacy's stuff on FB recently and they seem to be in good shape at underage.
It's an amalgamation, numbers appear to be light in both clubs at underage. Football is very strong in that area.

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GAA Discussion / Re: This PSNI Thing
« on: July 29, 2022, 02:13:50 PM »
Really disappointed in Alison Morrison, I thought she was better than that. It does however raise 2 questions, first the PSNI's attitude to engagement and integration with the nationalist community and secondly the continued ambiguous approach to the PSNI by some nationalists. I would want to see officers live at home not having to move and playing for home clubs. The PSNI influences these decisions when young officers join up advising them to move from their community for safety, that needs to change and as nationalists we need to embrace the police as our own as we do the fire service.

I'm certain this already happens in some areas.

The RUC/PSNI always had it's own teams for soccer and rugby who partake in the various leagues whereas the GAA would probably consider such a team an interfirms team and leave it at that with only tournament like things as per the Clan Na Banna thing.

If for whatever reason they didn't want to turn up, is entirely up to them, but Morris (now backtracking that she'd nothing to do with the headline and she is probably right on that) has made a few minor changes to the story online, but the stick is already out there to beat the GAA with.
I was making a wider point regarding the interaction of the PSNI with nationalist communities.

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GAA Discussion / Re: This PSNI Thing
« on: July 29, 2022, 11:56:59 AM »
Really disappointed in Alison Morrison, I thought she was better than that. It does however raise 2 questions, first the PSNI's attitude to engagement and integration with the nationalist community and secondly the continued ambiguous approach to the PSNI by some nationalists. I would want to see officers live at home not having to move and playing for home clubs. The PSNI influences these decisions when young officers join up advising them to move from their community for safety, that needs to change and as nationalists we need to embrace the police as our own as we do the fire service.

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: July 26, 2022, 11:03:50 AM »
Like Adams and McGuinness, Trimble could only have moved unionism from within and by being fairly staunch with it. The DUP and especially Donaldson and Foster stole his clothes (having stabbed him in the back).

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: July 26, 2022, 09:48:35 AM »
Sunday Game is not a patch on Sky as a product. Better analysis and no Get Canning.

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This game reminded me of the hurling final in so far as Galway tried hard and put it up to Kerry, but ultimately in the home stretch Kerry had the quality to pull away. Sean Hurson to be fair had a great game and Joyce bleating over the free in needs to look at his man holding the arm, too many refs let that go.

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General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
« on: July 18, 2022, 10:05:36 AM »
McGinley an odious individual. Can't hide his hate for Rory! Clown
Really? Is there a bad history between them or something? I like Mcginley. Met him once going into a match in Croke Park and he stood for pictures with my kid and was very nice.

No, Walter is completely wrong on that one.
McGinley is MCIlroy's biggest fan on Sky always waxing lyrical and talking him up. McIlroy is the best golfer this Island has produced, he is not a prime Tiger or the golfer for his generation, there are just so many golfers out there at that level. He has said himself that his game is set up for the PGA tour with long driving being key. His short game has improved but it is not at the level that can compete with Smith or Thomas if their short game is on. He will win another couple of majors but I can't see anyone repeating Tigers record. There are so many good golfers around now.

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General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
« on: July 15, 2022, 10:23:26 AM »
Very slow play and poor coverage with too much focus as usual on Tiger.

I think Rory's round was about 5.5 hours. There are a few shared greens and greens close to tee-boxes but 5.5 hours is ridiculous.

Is Jordan Spieth the slowest?
I followed the Speith/Rahm group on the red button, they waited at the 14th for close on 1/2 hour.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
« on: July 01, 2022, 04:56:57 PM »
Bar has now been set for these melee's, lets see consistency.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: July 01, 2022, 04:55:47 PM »
And yet at the House of Commons they continually speak of the EU not shifting, being difficult etc.  Someone's not telling the truth and I know who I believe
This is not about the protocol, the lie that the EU is intransigent suits the internal politics of the tory party. There is a mix of jockeying for the leadership and hoping to win the next election by vilifying the EU.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
« on: July 01, 2022, 04:41:16 PM »
Thought it would have been 12. 24 weeks is harsh enough, considering. If he appealed it hed definitely get it reduced.
hardly much point appealing it whenever the 24 weeks is up before the league starts. Why not give him 3 or 5 matches?
Far from getting off scot free the treatment he has received on social media, the press and assorted other bandwagon jumpers is worse than any match ban. His ban is also excessive compared to other high profile gouges, albeit given he was non playing that might have framed the punishment. How only one Galway man got cited is bizarre. I'd guess running scared of the appeals.
Check out Thomas Niblocks take on the GAA Social, balanced and fair.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
« on: June 28, 2022, 03:47:41 PM »
What's the priority for Armagh going forward? How good is the wider panel ? Are a few more players required or is tactical improvement more important? The fans are obviously a huge asset.

Id say we have the best players in the county on the panel. Some may argue we dont have our best 15 starting though. Hopefully getting the likes of OONeill and Grimley back will improve midfield though in fairness we could do with unearthing another body for there.
Tactically we could improve, certainly defensively we can improve further.
There is a third O'Neill brother coming through and I have been told he could potentially be better than Rian, haven't seen him in action yet though.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
« on: June 28, 2022, 09:46:53 AM »
Taoiseach and Catherine Martin getting stuck into this now. We're only moments away from somebody in the Dail asking for the Army to sent in to steward games.
He should be more concerned with the state of Cork football at the moment.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
« on: June 28, 2022, 09:44:22 AM »
There has been some drivel written about the penalties in the past 24 hours, predominantly by middle-aged women on Facebook, unsurprisingly. Armagh were robbed due to having to kick penalties etc. even though Galway also had the operate in the same conditions.
As Oisin McConville said, penalties are no way to end a GAA game, but both teams knew before Sunday that was what was happening so no use in whinging. Galway just about the better team overall so had Armagh won on penalties it would have been a greater injustice and that is my gripe.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Galway AIQF
« on: June 28, 2022, 09:38:41 AM »
Theyve been at it before Donaghy arrived on the ticket.
Im not referring to the gouging because thats a separate thing thats unexplainable.
Open your eyes man. James Morgan and Greg McCabe are card magnets and dont help themselves or the team with their nonsense.
There are a few others who are a shoe-in for cards every game. Armagh are a betting man's dream when it comes to cards.
You are a bullshitter. Morgan has in the past been rash and card prone. Over the last 10 or 12 years Armagh have not been involved a lot of this stuff as you suggest. This year they have been involved in 3 instances which is too much, but this happening the length and breadth of the country at club and county level your allegation that Armagh are some how world leaders at it does not stack.

So we're into personal insults now because you disagree strongly with an opinion.
Classy. Then again i shouldnt be surprised.
Its not personal, you are bullshitting and labelling a whole county and its players as perennial thugs based on zero evidence.

You personally insulted me. Its black n white.
Where did i label a whole county and its players as perennial thugs. Those are your own words not mine. Be careful.
Theres plenty of evidence to suggest that Armagh have several players with issues when it comes to controlling aggression, breaking playing rules, getting themselves carded.

I actually think Armagh folk are a great bunch. Have had many a positive interaction with them on and off the pitch for last 30 years and count them as good friends.
Im actually a fan of the football they play. How could you not be.
Im not sure where all this hate and anger comes from today.
No hate, no anger read my take on yesterday, but suggesting that Armagh were wholly to blame and have been at it for years is just errant nonsense. If you are insulted that I believe that you are bullshitting there is nothing I can do for that, just my opinion of your musings and nothing personal.

I accept your apology, now that youve calmed down a little.
Let me be clear in case i wasnt before. Armagh are not solely to blame for yesterdays melee. It takes 2 to tango. I dont think anyone is suggesting otherwise.
Also im not suggesting that Armagh went out to start a pre-meditated melee at all. In fact i agree with you, no team does that as far as im aware.

However, what i was suggesting that in general the lesser footballer will often engage in nonsense to try gain that little edge over his clearly superior footballing opponent. In some cases many lesser footballers will round on the clearly superior footballer as a group and show of strength etc. Often times when there is a culture of chest beating and machismo in a group of players it will result in fracas, melees, set-tos, skullduggery. Sometimes it manifests itself as a box to the gut, other times it might be wrestling and grappling (which Armagh strangely seem to love)
To be clear, no apology is required and I am calm and rational.

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