Antrim Football Thread

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whatwillbwillb

Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 03:23:14 PM
Minor and Senior double header in Ahoghill.

Good to see the chair of CCC making the proper decisions for a change, must be time for gathering support for County Chair  ::)

Hectic

Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 05:34:09 PM
Quote from: whatwillbwillb on October 11, 2018, 05:29:34 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 03:23:14 PM
Minor and Senior double header in Ahoghill.

Good to see the chair of CCC making the proper decisions for a change, must be time for gathering support for County Chair  ::)

Is that how fickle your potential support would be?

Probably the exception rather than the rule though nothing would have surprised me


Belfast GAA man

Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
From a Creggan point of view
1) We are a small club, a club with membership with massive commitment, but a small club none the less.
2) Managers, the club spent the majority of the 70's, 80, 90's in the lower leagues, and the majority of the playing personnel all had that playing experience. The last three internal managers Creggan had, Sean Maguire (intercounty experience), Peadar Totten (intercounty experience), Gerard Dougan (Div 1 and 2 experience). Outside of these guys, the players with intercounty experience either wanted to focus on underage, or had emigrated to foreign lands.
In the late 90's early 00's the club realized we had really good young potential, but didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level
3) The club focused on ensuring we had really good underage coaching structure (3 per team), and looked external for senior management
4) Players who brought the club up into Div 1 and stayed there, and who rep the county at underage senior, are now coaching underage teams within the club. The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years

Each club has to make decisions on what is best approach for their club to make sure their potential is maximized. Creggan took an approach that was intended to break a cycle of Div 2 status, and propel the club into senior status. On this point alone, the strategy has worked


It def has and its good to see. Also whats pleasing is the fact that your hurlers have rose to the fore and taken silverware in-between all of this. the foundations of the club are in a good solid state and that all comes from have good coaches and people in charge of every team.
Good that Creggan are not planning to pay the mercenaries forever but if you win the championship this year it will be with the help of Portglenone and St Endas and not a 100% Creggan victory - you are not alone in this but tarnishes it for me and would prefer all clubs put more faith in their own people

Hectic

Sometimes better focusing on your own house

paddyjohn

Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
From a Creggan point of view
1) We are a small club, a club with membership with massive commitment, but a small club none the less.
2) Managers, the club spent the majority of the 70's, 80, 90's in the lower leagues, and the majority of the playing personnel all had that playing experience. The last three internal managers Creggan had, Sean Maguire (intercounty experience), Peadar Totten (intercounty experience), Gerard Dougan (Div 1 and 2 experience). Outside of these guys, the players with intercounty experience either wanted to focus on underage, or had emigrated to foreign lands.
In the late 90's early 00's the club realized we had really good young potential, but didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level
3) The club focused on ensuring we had really good underage coaching structure (3 per team), and looked external for senior management
4) Players who brought the club up into Div 1 and stayed there, and who rep the county at underage senior, are now coaching underage teams within the club. The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years

Each club has to make decisions on what is best approach for their club to make sure their potential is maximized. Creggan took an approach that was intended to break a cycle of Div 2 status, and propel the club into senior status. On this point alone, the strategy has worked


It def has and its good to see. Also whats pleasing is the fact that your hurlers have rose to the fore and taken silverware in-between all of this. the foundations of the club are in a good solid state and that all comes from have good coaches and people in charge of every team.
Good that Creggan are not planning to pay the mercenaries forever but if you win the championship this year it will be with the help of Portglenone and St Endas and not a 100% Creggan victory - you are not alone in this but tarnishes it for me and would prefer all clubs put more faith in their own people

What have Creggan ever done on you? You're a bitter bitter man.

Belfast GAA man

Quote from: paddyjohn on October 11, 2018, 09:03:12 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: Dunloy realist on October 11, 2018, 03:48:53 PM
Quote from: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
From a Creggan point of view
1) We are a small club, a club with membership with massive commitment, but a small club none the less.
2) Managers, the club spent the majority of the 70's, 80, 90's in the lower leagues, and the majority of the playing personnel all had that playing experience. The last three internal managers Creggan had, Sean Maguire (intercounty experience), Peadar Totten (intercounty experience), Gerard Dougan (Div 1 and 2 experience). Outside of these guys, the players with intercounty experience either wanted to focus on underage, or had emigrated to foreign lands.
In the late 90's early 00's the club realized we had really good young potential, but didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level
3) The club focused on ensuring we had really good underage coaching structure (3 per team), and looked external for senior management
4) Players who brought the club up into Div 1 and stayed there, and who rep the county at underage senior, are now coaching underage teams within the club. The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years

Each club has to make decisions on what is best approach for their club to make sure their potential is maximized. Creggan took an approach that was intended to break a cycle of Div 2 status, and propel the club into senior status. On this point alone, the strategy has worked


It def has and its good to see. Also whats pleasing is the fact that your hurlers have rose to the fore and taken silverware in-between all of this. the foundations of the club are in a good solid state and that all comes from have good coaches and people in charge of every team.
Good that Creggan are not planning to pay the mercenaries forever but if you win the championship this year it will be with the help of Portglenone and St Endas and not a 100% Creggan victory - you are not alone in this but tarnishes it for me and would prefer all clubs put more faith in their own people

What have Creggan ever done on you? You're a bitter bitter man.
How does being against paid managers in a volunteer organisation make me bitter? Creggan is a smashing club in many ways and have done nothing on me. If Cargin win it, it will be with the help of Bellaghy and i'm against their decision to pay a manager too. Having an opinion doesn't make me bitter at all

country bumpkin

The good news is we have a home draw in Ulster this year but:



Antrim v Tyrone/Derry

paddyjohn

Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
I take it you South West hillbillies will be wanting this fixture v Tyrone or Derry played in Ahoghill 😂

Dunloy. Better parking.

Gold

"Cheeky Charlie McKenna..."

Hectic

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Quote from: farset on October 11, 2018, 10:28:49 PM
I take it you South West hillbillies will be wanting this fixture v Tyrone or Derry played in Ahoghill 😂

As long as it aint in Belfast I dont mind. Will save the car from getting broke into.

Hectic


aontroim

CSC the line in bold may have been true at one stage back in the 90s perhaps, but i'm guessing on the scale of Antrim clubs based on membership Creggan sit well up there with the larger clubs and i'd say have more membership than Cargin these days.

If you look further North into the Glens you'll see what a true small club is in terms of both membership and playing numbers!

Quote from: Kickham csc on October 11, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 11, 2018, 12:48:48 PM
Quote from: Belfast GAA man on October 11, 2018, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: Spike on October 09, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on October 09, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
Quote from: belfastsaff on October 09, 2018, 09:36:25 AM
I see that the Derry SFC final is scheduled for the same day - that could affect attendance.

You think the Cargin ones will go to the Derry final instead?  ;)

Both Cargin and Creggan (and both Managers) have the strong backbone of Derry education.  You would probably be surprised at the amount of people disgruntled with the two finals being on the same day
don't be worrying about the managers turning up as they are paid mercenaries - sad to see these big clubs with big memberships and tradition going down the mercenary road

Not too many of the 'Big Clubs' in Antrim that have not used mercenaries in the past few years.  Certainly not an ideal situation but its probably a typical situation in most big clubs around Ireland. The odd 'club member' manager scattered around is a relative scarcity.

The big managerial merrygoround will continue onwards. Neither Cargin's nor Creggan's managers will be sitting with their feet up next year regardless of whether Cargin or Creggan release them from service at the end of the season.

The bigger question is how to stop it as it is fairly endemic now
From a Creggan point of view
1) We are a small club, a club with membership with massive commitment, but a small club none the less.
2) Managers, the club spent the majority of the 70's, 80, 90's in the lower leagues, and the majority of the playing personnel all had that playing experience. The last three internal managers Creggan had, Sean Maguire (intercounty experience), Peadar Totten (intercounty experience), Gerard Dougan (Div 1 and 2 experience). Outside of these guys, the players with intercounty experience either wanted to focus on underage, or had emigrated to foreign lands.
In the late 90's early 00's the club realized we had really good young potential, but didn't have managers with the experience to take us to the next level at senior level
3) The club focused on ensuring we had really good underage coaching structure (3 per team), and looked external for senior management
4) Players who brought the club up into Div 1 and stayed there, and who rep the county at underage senior, are now coaching underage teams within the club. The natural progression will be these lads coaching the senior team in the next 10+ years

Each club has to make decisions on what is best approach for their club to make sure their potential is maximized. Creggan took an approach that was intended to break a cycle of Div 2 status, and propel the club into senior status. On this point alone, the strategy has worked


imtommygunn

Fair play to creggan. An outside manager diminishes nothing in this at all -utter nonsense and petty begrudging. It's great to see a different club in the final and would be good to see them get over the line though I would still fancy cargin to win it.

Terrible draw. Apparently we would only have an option of a home game depending on the result.(Were we to have a home ground).


otbar

Fair play to creggan???? They have spent 250k in past 12 years on managers for seniors lol. Bound to hit a bit of success with one. Biggest spending club in Antrim. Which they are fully entiltled to do but don't come this story of senior players giving back when a number have went to other clubs to manage for money.