Ulster Senior football championship 2024

[balladmaker]

Armagh poor for 70+ mins.  Down had a game plan that didn't really deserve to get anything out of today, they're a pretty limited side.  Referee probably gave the worst performance I've seen in a long, long time. 

Tyrone/Donegal will be hot favourites for the final, Armagh massive underdogs

[JoG2]

Armagh would appear to be surprised that Down can and will crunch them in the tackle.

Ref seems to prefer Down's tackling style.

Awful boring game that highlights just how wrong it is that our game rewards teams for playing keep ball.

Football is fucked.

Did you not say you weren't watching another game this year? Or maybe that was some other negative Nelly

Don't think I'd have said that. I wouldn't know what else to do with my life.

  apologies, I'd be the same.

[Blowitupref]

Bad news on Paddy Lynch and Cavan for the upcoming group stage.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/2024/04/27/blow-for-cavan-as-lynch-ruled-out-for-remainder-of-season/

[armaghniac]

Thomas Niblock has called it a phenomenal performance from Down on Twitter.

Lol. Complete nonsense. Armagh were brutal but got away with it because they're levels above the Down team they played. Not much more do it.

Let's hope that's their low point and that they perform fully to their level from here on.

[Wildweasel74]

0.04 pts and 1.04pts from play not a great return over 75 odd mins.

[marty34]

0.04 pts and 1.04pts from play not a great return over 75 odd mins.

Some cracking games so far this year...and then there's games like this.

I think everyone should think that not every game will be a 4-19 to 3-20 scoreline.

I look at it, like every other sport, there'll be good and bad games.  That's sport.

[LCohen]

That last free, he didn't blow for the 'first' foul, blew for the obvious round the neck free, spoke to linesman, free then given for first free (which you can't do) and thankfully he missed

What is it there that the ref can't do?

Would blowing for the second foul not constitute a break in play during which the linesman could alert the ref to the first foul?

[Armagh18]

Bad news on Paddy Lynch and Cavan for the upcoming group stage.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/2024/04/27/blow-for-cavan-as-lynch-ruled-out-for-remainder-of-season/

Sorry to read that, serious player and comes across as a decent lad as well. Speedy recovery.

[Milltown Row2]

That last free, he didn't blow for the 'first' foul, blew for the obvious round the neck free, spoke to linesman, free then given for first free (which you can't do) and thankfully he missed

What is it there that the ref can't do?

Would blowing for the second foul not constitute a break in play during which the linesman could alert the ref to the first foul?

Once the referee has given a decision and has sounded his whistle to restart play, he shall not alter that decision.

Once he's blown and made a decision (rightly or wrongly) he can't change it

Different if he blows for a free and waves his hand in one direction when it should have been the other, that's common enough in games but everyone knows.

This was different. He didn't blow for the Johnston trip, play went on and the Down player grab the Armagh lad around the neck then he blew.

I thought the first was a free in fairness so the right thing happened in the end.

He'll be pulled on a few things, but the helter skelter of these games will provide mistakes all round

[Derryman forever]

That last free, he didn't blow for the 'first' foul, blew for the obvious round the neck free, spoke to linesman, free then given for first free (which you can't do) and thankfully he missed

What is it there that the ref can't do?

Would blowing for the second foul not constitute a break in play during which the linesman could alert the ref to the first foul?

Once the referee has given a decision and has sounded his whistle to restart play, he shall not alter that decision.

Once he's blown and made a decision (rightly or wrongly) he can't change it

Different if he blows for a free and waves his hand in one direction when it should have been the other, that's common enough in games but everyone knows.

This was different. He didn't blow for the Johnston trip, play went on and the Down player grab the Armagh lad around the neck then he blew.

I thought the first was a free in fairness so the right thing happened in the end.

He'll be pulled on a few things, but the helter skelter of these games will provide mistakes all round

Not trying to be argumentative, BUT. Being pedantic really.

Is the "not blowing" of the whistle not a decision in itself, which he should not change?

While I did find the refereeing exasperating
The game it self was even more so and I suspect it would have been a nightmare to officiate.

[Milltown Row2]

That last free, he didn't blow for the 'first' foul, blew for the obvious round the neck free, spoke to linesman, free then given for first free (which you can't do) and thankfully he missed

What is it there that the ref can't do?

Would blowing for the second foul not constitute a break in play during which the linesman could alert the ref to the first foul?

Once the referee has given a decision and has sounded his whistle to restart play, he shall not alter that decision.

Once he's blown and made a decision (rightly or wrongly) he can't change it

Different if he blows for a free and waves his hand in one direction when it should have been the other, that's common enough in games but everyone knows.

This was different. He didn't blow for the Johnston trip, play went on and the Down player grab the Armagh lad around the neck then he blew.

I thought the first was a free in fairness so the right thing happened in the end.

He'll be pulled on a few things, but the helter skelter of these games will provide mistakes all round

Not trying to be argumentative, BUT. Being pedantic really.

Is the "not blowing" of the whistle not a decision in itself, which he should not change?

While I did find the refereeing exasperating
The game it self was even more so and I suspect it would have been a nightmare to officiate.

In this instance he blew only for the second foul, after sounding his whistle and giving his decision, he then was confronted by the linesman and changed it.

There is nothing in the rules to say he can do that

[Nanderson]

That last free, he didn't blow for the 'first' foul, blew for the obvious round the neck free, spoke to linesman, free then given for first free (which you can't do) and thankfully he missed

What is it there that the ref can't do?

Would blowing for the second foul not constitute a break in play during which the linesman could alert the ref to the first foul?

Once the referee has given a decision and has sounded his whistle to restart play, he shall not alter that decision.

Once he's blown and made a decision (rightly or wrongly) he can't change it

Different if he blows for a free and waves his hand in one direction when it should have been the other, that's common enough in games but everyone knows.

This was different. He didn't blow for the Johnston trip, play went on and the Down player grab the Armagh lad around the neck then he blew.

I thought the first was a free in fairness so the right thing happened in the end.

He'll be pulled on a few things, but the helter skelter of these games will provide mistakes all round

Not trying to be argumentative, BUT. Being pedantic really.

Is the "not blowing" of the whistle not a decision in itself, which he should not change?

While I did find the refereeing exasperating
The game it self was even more so and I suspect it would have been a nightmare to officiate.

In this instance he blew only for the second foul, after sounding his whistle and giving his decision, he then was confronted by the linesman and changed it.

There is nothing in the rules to say he can do that

Would he only be allowed to overturn a foul for foul play?

[bennydorano]

Looking forward to today's game but I think it could he a damp squib too. If Tyrone don't adapt their gameplan significantly I can only see a Donegal win,  so I think they will adapt.I'd prefer Armagh to play Tyrone in a classico Ulster Final tbh, not that I'd be overly confident of victory but mainly because McGeeney would grossly overthink a final v Jim Mcguinness.

[yellowcard]

The aristocrats of Ulster haven't a player that can kick a ball 40 metres , that was brutal stuff yesterday. Down are simply a reincarnation of Kilcoo handpassing and soloing the ball up the pitch. It was a dreadful game to watch and summed up all of the ills of Gaelic football. The referee was just as bad and Armagh weren't much better.

The one positive from an Armagh point of view was the substitutions who won us the match. Oisin O'Neill, Duffy and Nugent kicked the winning scores and hopefully there will be changes the next game because otherwise that type of performance or tactical approach will not be good enough.

[Milltown Row2]

That last free, he didn't blow for the 'first' foul, blew for the obvious round the neck free, spoke to linesman, free then given for first free (which you can't do) and thankfully he missed

What is it there that the ref can't do?

Would blowing for the second foul not constitute a break in play during which the linesman could alert the ref to the first foul?

Once the referee has given a decision and has sounded his whistle to restart play, he shall not alter that decision.

Once he's blown and made a decision (rightly or wrongly) he can't change it

Different if he blows for a free and waves his hand in one direction when it should have been the other, that's common enough in games but everyone knows.

This was different. He didn't blow for the Johnston trip, play went on and the Down player grab the Armagh lad around the neck then he blew.

I thought the first was a free in fairness so the right thing happened in the end.

He'll be pulled on a few things, but the helter skelter of these games will provide mistakes all round

Not trying to be argumentative, BUT. Being pedantic really.

Is the "not blowing" of the whistle not a decision in itself, which he should not change?

While I did find the refereeing exasperating
The game it self was even more so and I suspect it would have been a nightmare to officiate.

In this instance he blew only for the second foul, after sounding his whistle and giving his decision, he then was confronted by the linesman and changed it.

There is nothing in the rules to say he can do that

Would he only be allowed to overturn a foul for foul play?

Can only overturn the foul for retaliation after a foul and give a hop ball.. nothing else