Six County Census Results 2021

Started by Snapchap, September 21, 2022, 09:09:16 PM

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Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

#30
Northern Irish-watch it grow next time, especially with SF antics

tbrick18

Quote from: Snapchap on September 22, 2022, 09:55:17 AM
Identity - A significant drop in those regarding themselves as British only in the last ten years.

                      2011 - 2021
British -          40% - 31.86%
Irish -             25% - 29.16%
N. Irish (::)) -  21% - 19.78%

I'd imagine a combination of the older generations dying off and larger catholic/irish families affect this number more than a change in opinions.

imtommygunn

Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 22, 2022, 10:03:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2022, 10:00:58 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on September 22, 2022, 09:55:17 AM
Identity - A significant drop in those regarding themselves as British only in the last ten years.

                      2011 - 2021
British -          40% - 31.86%
Irish -             25% - 29.16%
N. Irish (::)) -  21% - 19.78%

These are the figures that the DUP will work on

But these show the end is nigh as well. They can cling onto them for a little while longer if they wish. But they have to know that the writing is on the wall. I've waited long enough, I'm happy to wait a bit longer if we're going in the right direction.

Those are pretty damning even if they do work on them. A 15% gap down to a 2.7% gap. That's massive.I honestly think N. Irish would be down a year later too. I thought that centenary celebration stuff was extremely British and not very inclusive and will make a lot of people of a more nationalist persuasion to not call themselves northern Irish any more. Then the implications of Brexit and the toxicity round protocol stuff too.

The end is maybe nearer than we thought.

Pub Bore

Passports

British Only - 47% (-10.0%)
Irish Only - 27% (+8%)
Brit & Irish - 5% (+2%)

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: Pub Bore on September 22, 2022, 10:12:15 AM
Passports

British Only - 47% (-10.0%)
Irish Only - 27% (+8%)
Brit & Irish - 5% (+2%)

Big indicator of how many wishy washy catholics we have here

Pub Bore

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 22, 2022, 10:09:30 AM
Northern Irish-watch it grow next time, especially with SF antics

NI Only is down from 2011

Rossfan

#36
Quote from: Snapchap on September 22, 2022, 09:55:17 AM
Identity - A significant drop in those regarding themselves as British only in the last ten years.

                      2011 - 2021
British -          40% - 31.86%
Irish -             25% - 29.16%
N. Irish (::)) -  21% - 19.78%
The other 18%? Foreigners or people who left it blank?or combinations of B or I or NI??
The "NI ish" and the Others (38% total) will be the decision makers in a Referendum.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe



Itchy

Northern Irish my hole. Might as well identify as north east ulsterish. It doesnt exist as a nationality.

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2022, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 22, 2022, 10:14:15 AM
Quote from: Pub Bore on September 22, 2022, 10:13:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 22, 2022, 10:09:30 AM
Northern Irish-watch it grow next time, especially with SF antics

NI Only is down from 2011

I know.

I think it'll be the opposite Fear.

Hope so. Just think the last weeks behaviour with the Queens death will backfire that way-I want to be proved wrong on this.

Pub Bore

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 22, 2022, 10:14:15 AM
Quote from: Pub Bore on September 22, 2022, 10:13:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 22, 2022, 10:09:30 AM
Northern Irish-watch it grow next time, especially with SF antics

NI Only is down from 2011

I know.

TBH I would have thought that "NI Only" would have been well up this time, or maybe 21% last time was a high water mark?

trueblue1234

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2022, 10:10:43 AM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on September 22, 2022, 10:03:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 22, 2022, 10:00:58 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on September 22, 2022, 09:55:17 AM
Identity - A significant drop in those regarding themselves as British only in the last ten years.

                      2011 - 2021
British -          40% - 31.86%
Irish -             25% - 29.16%
N. Irish (::)) -  21% - 19.78%

These are the figures that the DUP will work on

But these show the end is nigh as well. They can cling onto them for a little while longer if they wish. But they have to know that the writing is on the wall. I've waited long enough, I'm happy to wait a bit longer if we're going in the right direction.

Those are pretty damning even if they do work on them. A 15% gap down to a 2.7% gap. That's massive.I honestly think N. Irish would be down a year later too. I thought that centenary celebration stuff was extremely British and not very inclusive and will make a lot of people of a more nationalist persuasion to not call themselves northern Irish any more. Then the implications of Brexit and the toxicity round protocol stuff too.

The end is maybe nearer than we thought.

Fingers crossed. The DUP as leaders for the Unionist voice have talked themselves into a corner since 2016. The lack of long term planning by them has been surreal. Their reaction to live data has been to stick their fingers into their ears a little like EG and try and deny the direction everything is going. Surely even they can see the "what if" is increasing looking like "when" now.
That said, I can completely understand their reaction. They have little choice until the time comes when it is taken out of their hands. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anyone in the Unionist sphere who is willing to stand up and say, OK, we want to remain in the union but it's increasingly looking like that may change. Therefore just in case, how do we protect our British identity in a new Ireland and how might that look?


Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Snapchap

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 22, 2022, 10:20:02 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 22, 2022, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 22, 2022, 10:14:15 AM
Quote from: Pub Bore on September 22, 2022, 10:13:50 AM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 22, 2022, 10:09:30 AM
Northern Irish-watch it grow next time, especially with SF antics

NI Only is down from 2011

I know.

I think it'll be the opposite Fear.

Hope so. Just think the last weeks behaviour with the Queens death will backfire that way-I want to be proved wrong on this.
1. They've been greeting royals on visits here for the last ten years and the "N Irish" figure still dropped
2. I highly doubt that Michelle O'Neill meeting Charles last week will be at the forefront of peoples minds when they sit down to fill in a census form a decade from now.

Pub Bore

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 22, 2022, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: Pub Bore on September 22, 2022, 10:12:15 AM
Passports

British Only - 47% (-10.0%)
Irish Only - 27% (+8%)
Brit & Irish - 5% (+2%)

Big indicator of how many wishy washy catholics we have here

302,000 people in NI without a passport at all.  Seems a lot but I suppose you've to think about the very young and very old.