Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Waataboutyee]

What way Owenbeg games working this weekend with the roads closing  round, Dungiven. Very much mixed messages on what's happening

Roadworks not happening this week

[Waataboutyee]

Friday 8pm Owenbeg
Steelstown v Ballinderry    BALLINDERRY BY 3

Saturday 2pm Lavey
Lavey v Kilrea                   LAVEY BY 6 maybe more - dark horses 

Saturday is 3.30pm Glen
Loup v Ballinascreen.         LOUP BY 1 - 2 bad defeats last week, hard to know

Saturday 4.30pm Bellaghy
Bellaghy v Dungiven          BELLAGHY BY 1 Surs by 3

Saturday 6.30pm Owenbeg
Slaughtneil v Newbridge     SLAUGHTNEIL BY 4

Sunday 3.30pm Swatragh
Swatragh v Claudy             SWATRAGH BY 10

Sunday 5pm Glen
Glen v Banagher                GLEN BY 10

Sunday 6.30pm Owenbeg
Coleraine v Magherafelt      MFELT BY 3

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I think Steelstown will beat Ballinderry, pile of lads back this week

Stay off the poitín Fear! 

Ah well, you win some you lose some

[toby47]

Are there too many teams in division 1? Some amount of stuffing's taking place.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Are there too many teams in division 1? Some amount of stuffing's taking place.

Sham competition, no relegation

[Brendan]

Are there too many teams in division 1? Some amount of stuffing's taking place.

But to the benefit of the Intermediate championship, who'd have thought Glenullin and Desertmartin be top of the 2 groups 🤔

[Jimmy]

4 teams get relegated from championship this year leaving a 12 team league and championship for 2023.

[screenexile]

What way does relegation work?

Is it an open draw for the 8 losers of the first round of the Champsionship then the 4 losers of that are relegated??

[oakleaflad]

There was supposed to be relegation last year too and that never materialized. No promotion for winning the leagues doesn't seem right to me as it devalues the league even further, but I think if we we're to put teams in evenly matched leagues we'd be looking at more than 3 divisions. There's a big gap between top and bottom in all 3.

[Wildweasel74]

38, clubs roughly I went with 12 Senior, 10 Intermediate, and a Junior A with 10, and Junior B with 6 plus a few 3rds Teams?  They need to finalise once and for all, as there been league alterations past 15yrs+ going bck and forth among various formats.

[Man Marker]

Are there too many teams in division 1? Some amount of stuffing's taking place.

Sham competition, no relegation

Do you want a team to suffer relegation whilst they have not had access to their county players in the league. The county players played one league game at the end of July. The purpose of the round robin is to give teams who have county players three games with those players prior to the actual real knockout championship. Relegation from the senior championship is via the championship and not some league where you can't have access to all your players. Don't forget U20 county players didn't play in the first 4/5 league games either.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

Are there too many teams in division 1? Some amount of stuffing's taking place.

Sham competition, no relegation

Do you want a team to suffer relegation whilst they have not had access to their county players in the league. The county players played one league game at the end of July. The purpose of the round robin is to give teams who have county players three games with those players prior to the actual real knockout championship. Relegation from the senior championship is via the championship and not some league where you can't have access to all your players. Don't forget U20 county players didn't play in the first 4/5 league games either.

Im talking about the league. Whats the point? Not the championship

[Man Marker]

That is reasonable as long as it is not related to championship status. Play the league without your county players, and for example get relegated to D2 for next season, but you still retain your senior championship status with your full compliment of players if you win the games required to avoid the drop in that compo.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

That is reasonable as long as it is not related to championship status. Play the league without your county players, and for example get relegated to D2 for next season, but you still retain your senior championship status with your full compliment of players if you win the games required to avoid the drop in that compo.

But there is no relegation in the league, thats my point

[Silver hill]

We can't have it both ways. If you want to have a meaningful league with county players involved then the league could start in earnest in first week of July and 12 games would have to be run off in July august sept. Championship would then have to be run off in a 6 week period from September to 3rd week in October.  That format allows no weekends for hurling. The alternative is what we are currently doing. I.e., league games without county players from April that caters for the 90% of senior footballers who are not county senior or u20 players then a round robin championship format that in realist are glorified league games that cater for reintroducing the county players to club football. We still then have proper knockout championship from qtr final on. There are so many moving parts to this and Derry are in a tough place as hurling is relatively strong as well. The proposal for next year with 2 groups of 6 and bottom two playing off for relegation to intermediate leaves all games with something to play for right to the end. Not perfect, but I've yet to hear a better proposition.