Man Utd Thread:

[Cunny Funt]

Sweet Jesus

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Sad individuals and such behaviour should be rightly condemned

Sweet Jesus

Rojo and Young expected to be the full backs v Arsenal tonight. Sweet Jesus.

[Ed Ricketts]

McTominay with the only bit of quality in the half. Two mid-table teams playing mid-table football.

[Ed Ricketts]

Two painfully ordinary teams going nowhere.

[Cunny Funt]

Two average Europa league teams. Arsenal will be most pleased with the draw but they only managed to grab a draw due to a error. As for United 1 goal a game seems to be their max nowadays and they have now made their worst start to league season for 30 years.

[t_mac]

Do most goals not come from errors?

[Geoff Tipps]

United heading into October in single figures. Very very poor.

[Look-Up!]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either. 

[magpie seanie]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

I can only assume you mean "the guys who played full back last night"? Neither of whom is a full back or first choice.

May seem nuts but a few months of Zlatan may be no harm but badly need a stop gap player or two in January. I'm satisfied with the process except the squad is too thin numbers wise and there's no proven goalscorer. The hysteria that surrounds every game makes it very difficult.

[oakleaflad]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

It's shocking that you watch United and choose to criticize Pogba of all the midfielders. He's the best one in that team by a good bit and at times the only one who looks like making something happen. McTominay has done ok. Lingard and Pereira aren't good enough. Has to be question marks over Fred at this stage and Mata is past his best.

[Look-Up!]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

I can only assume you mean "the guys who played full back last night"? Neither of whom is a full back or first choice.

May seem nuts but a few months of Zlatan may be no harm but badly need a stop gap player or two in January. I'm satisfied with the process except the squad is too thin numbers wise and there's no proven goalscorer. The hysteria that surrounds every game makes it very difficult.

That's been the same old story at Utd for a long time now not just at full back. They need to buy.

[Look-Up!]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

It's shocking that you watch United and choose to criticize Pogba of all the midfielders. He's the best one in that team by a good bit and at times the only one who looks like making something happen. McTominay has done ok. Lingard and Pereira aren't good enough. Has to be question marks over Fred at this stage and Mata is past his best.

Because he is the marquee name there, most experienced and accomplished player and highest earner. Happy to stick his chest out in social media too to air his grievances. But the only reason I recognized he was playing last night was because of his haircut. Sums him up.
He'll show quality in patches over the season and will get great reviews (justifiably) in some games but he his not a leader and will go missing in at least 10 games a season. They need more from him at the moment both the club and younger players there.

[oakleaflad]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

It's shocking that you watch United and choose to criticize Pogba of all the midfielders. He's the best one in that team by a good bit and at times the only one who looks like making something happen. McTominay has done ok. Lingard and Pereira aren't good enough. Has to be question marks over Fred at this stage and Mata is past his best.

Because he is the marquee name there, most experienced and accomplished player and highest earner. Happy to stick his chest out in social media too to air his grievances. But the only reason I recognized he was playing last night was because of his haircut. Sums him up.
He'll show quality in patches over the season and will get great reviews (justifiably) in some games but he his not a leader and will go missing in at least 10 games a season. They need more from him at the moment both the club and younger players there.

He is their best midfielder (not saying a lot at the moment) and isn't perfect. Your analysis is probably accurate in that he could and should be doing better but Mata, Matic, Lingard, Pereira and Fred all deserve criticism before Pogba in my opinion and that's only the midfielders. The likes of Young and Rashford have been piss poor too. He is an easy target because he is French and has a different haircut.

[magpie seanie]

Full backs look dodgy. Pogba is shocking, not a leader. No striker. They have some nice footballers sprinkled about the team but hard to see where the consistency will come from. Maybe they can regroup and get something going with a fully fit squad but they look a soft touch at the moment. I can see some panic buys coming in January and maybe even major upheaval in the management front. It's all well and good talking about resetting, patience and holding firm in August but the reality of not having a target man in the PL is becoming apparent and will get even more real as the games clock up. That was a poor Arsenal performance to boot. 
At this stage for Utd they need to get some real quality in key positions and whether they want to hear it or not it means paying over the odds. It might backfire but hoping the young lads come good could just as easily backfire. They could end up ruining some of their young talent without proper direction and leadership. They're being analysed to bits every week in the media and most of it is not good. The pressure will not ease either.

It's shocking that you watch United and choose to criticize Pogba of all the midfielders. He's the best one in that team by a good bit and at times the only one who looks like making something happen. McTominay has done ok. Lingard and Pereira aren't good enough. Has to be question marks over Fred at this stage and Mata is past his best.

Because he is the marquee name there, most experienced and accomplished player and highest earner. Happy to stick his chest out in social media too to air his grievances. But the only reason I recognized he was playing last night was because of his haircut. Sums him up.
He'll show quality in patches over the season and will get great reviews (justifiably) in some games but he his not a leader and will go missing in at least 10 games a season. They need more from him at the moment both the club and younger players there.

All players can't be leaders. He was good enough to star in a World Cup winning team. He gets scapegoated because he seems to be a bit of a tool but the issue here is that he has been asked to do things that he's not capable of. He'll be awesome in a team with a few solid leaders around him but you might as well criticise him for not having a baby as not being a leader - it's just not in him.

[Cunny Funt]

Pogba might show more if he was played in a more advanced role. At moment he's used as CDM and he no more wants to play there or is capable of playing such a role.  Pereira again played as winger and Lingard as the number 10 which is total waste of time. Rushing a injured and out of form Rashford back and starting him instead of Greenwood made little sense.

United at home to Arsenal with one of the most ropey defences in the PL played a with cautious and cagey approach to the game and their only goal came from a counter attack. It was Jose like tactics and game plan.  I'm not fully sure what has happened to the vision Ole had for his team, which was meant to be  high energy,pressing and attacking team. 

Yes i know the pressure is increasing with each game where more points are dropped but If he continues to set his teams up like this and chooses to put square pegs in round holes there will be no "resetting" to be done as  he will get sacked before the end of the season.

[screenexile]

I don't particularly like him and thought he was a disgrace on the Off the Ball show in Dublin but couldn't stop listening to Keane the way he was talking last night. . . he was excellent in everything he said and it was very insightful and a glimpse into the way he thought when playing football. He should be like that more!!

Utd were muck last night especially Pogba!