Man Utd Thread:

[rodney trotter]

They have played 19 games since the game against PSG. 5 wins, 4 draws, 10 defeats. They aren't even playing good football now and threadbare in attack. They sold Lukaku who despite his faults, was a finisher and didn't replace him..

Yeah they are In transition alright.. In transition every year since Ferguson left.

[Ambrose]

Karma's a bitch 

[Farrandeelin]

They have played 19 games since the game against PSG. 5 wins, 4 draws, 10 defeats. They aren't even playing good football now and threadbare in attack. They sold Lukaku who despite his faults, was a finisher and didn't replace him..

Yeah they are In transition alright.. In transition every year since Ferguson left.

Yea. The 'miracle in Paris' somehow is ending up tragic. Ole will be replaced, by Hallowe'en I'd say.

[gawa316]

https://twitter.com/Garwain/status/1175818145778556930

What's this all about?

[trailer]

You're obviously being sarcastic or trying to justify being 7th? They rotate the team for Europa League and the game was in England.. Not like they were flying back from Kazakhstan..

This year is all about qualifying for the Champions League. It's not about winning the Premier League. It's also about transition which won't be pretty. Klopp finished 8th in his first season 2015/16, 21 points behind champions Leicester City.

If you think Utd are going to qualify for the Champions League you're deluded.

[Maroon Manc]

Look at the state of the front 6 yesterday, nobody could seriously go to West Ham and get a result with that front 6. Matic & Mata are finished as top players, Pereira isn't good enough and McTominay & James probably have about 50 starts between them;

I had no issues with United selling Lukaka but he should have been replaced by someone like Mandzukic who would probably be content with been a bit part player. Fellaini & Herrera have left the club in the last 12 months and Matic has regressed at an alarming rate and United haven't bought a midfielder in that time so nobody and a player who's distinctly average in Pereira is now first choice.

It doesn't matter who's in charge of United with that side, a few injuries which has now occurred was always going to lead to huge issues. Last summer United bought in 3 good players who've hit the ground running, if United can bring in 3 or 4 players in the next 2 transfer windows who'll have a similar impact then things will look a lot better but thats a big if.

[Jeepers Creepers]

Look at the state of the front 6 yesterday, nobody could seriously go to West Ham and get a result with that front 6. Matic & Mata are finished as top players, Pereira isn't good enough and McTominay & James probably have about 50 starts between them;

I had no issues with United selling Lukaka but he should have been replaced by someone like Mandzukic who would probably be content with been a bit part player. Fellaini & Herrera have left the club in the last 12 months and Matic has regressed at an alarming rate and United haven't bought a midfielder in that time so nobody and a player who's distinctly average in Pereira is now first choice.

It doesn't matter who's in charge of United with that side, a few injuries which has now occurred was always going to lead to huge issues. Last summer United bought in 3 good players who've hit the ground running, if United can bring in 3 or 4 players in the next 2 transfer windows who'll have a similar impact then things will look a lot better but thats a big if.

Reading last week that Mandzukic was the plan but he waited to see if he made Juve's champions league squad before deciding on leaving. He didnt make the list and missed the transfer deadline because of this?

Utd had decent chances to score yesterday and didn't take them. Could have been a different story. Anyway another long hard season continues.

[Maroon Manc]

Look at the state of the front 6 yesterday, nobody could seriously go to West Ham and get a result with that front 6. Matic & Mata are finished as top players, Pereira isn't good enough and McTominay & James probably have about 50 starts between them;

I had no issues with United selling Lukaka but he should have been replaced by someone like Mandzukic who would probably be content with been a bit part player. Fellaini & Herrera have left the club in the last 12 months and Matic has regressed at an alarming rate and United haven't bought a midfielder in that time so nobody and a player who's distinctly average in Pereira is now first choice.

It doesn't matter who's in charge of United with that side, a few injuries which has now occurred was always going to lead to huge issues. Last summer United bought in 3 good players who've hit the ground running, if United can bring in 3 or 4 players in the next 2 transfer windows who'll have a similar impact then things will look a lot better but thats a big if.

Reading last week that Mandzukic was the plan but he waited to see if he made Juve's champions league squad before deciding on leaving. He didnt make the list and missed the transfer deadline because of this?

Possibly but think there was a rumour United wouldn't give him what he wanted, I've bigger issues with not bringing in a midfielder and allowing Herrera to leave on a free whilst giving big contracts to Smalling, Jones & Lingard. Woodward has been a disaster, its bad enough wasting money on players who are not good enough but continuously paying players over the odds which makes them impossible to move on is unforgivable. Chelsea have spent as much as United in recent years if not more but they've managed to sell well too because players aren't on ridiculous money.

[TabClear]

Look at the state of the front 6 yesterday, nobody could seriously go to West Ham and get a result with that front 6. Matic & Mata are finished as top players, Pereira isn't good enough and McTominay & James probably have about 50 starts between them;

I had no issues with United selling Lukaka but he should have been replaced by someone like Mandzukic who would probably be content with been a bit part player. Fellaini & Herrera have left the club in the last 12 months and Matic has regressed at an alarming rate and United haven't bought a midfielder in that time so nobody and a player who's distinctly average in Pereira is now first choice.

It doesn't matter who's in charge of United with that side, a few injuries which has now occurred was always going to lead to huge issues. Last summer United bought in 3 good players who've hit the ground running, if United can bring in 3 or 4 players in the next 2 transfer windows who'll have a similar impact then things will look a lot better but thats a big if.

Reading last week that Mandzukic was the plan but he waited to see if he made Juve's champions league squad before deciding on leaving. He didnt make the list and missed the transfer deadline because of this?

Possibly but think there was a rumour United wouldn't give him what he wanted, I've bigger issues with not bringing in a midfielder and allowing Herrera to leave on a free whilst giving big contracts to Smalling, Jones & Lingard. Woodward has been a disaster, its bad enough wasting money on players who are not good enough but continuously paying players over the odds which makes them impossible to move on is unforgivable. Chelsea have spent as much as United in recent years if not more but they've managed to sell well too because players aren't on ridiculous money.

Sky had a stat up yesterday where United and Chelsea had spent roughly the same since 2013 (not sure why that was the period), about £900m i think. They were 2&3 in the spending list behind City. Liverpool were 4th but about £200m less than both.

[BennyCake]

Fergie left in 2013 and Jose returned to Chelsea then. That's probably why

[Joeythelips]

I have just seen that twitter post showing Phil Jones mouthing 'sacked in the morning'. What a clown, he should be turfed out asap. Clowns like him who are average players on bloated contracts is one of the main reasons united are where they are.

United are at the beginning of a major rebuilding job which will take a good couple of years and no matter who is in change they need time as results are not going to change over night. Ole in fairness has brought in 3 good signings who have improved the side so its a good first step, next he needs a creative midfielder and centre forward, then its building up the squad which is extremely light currently.

Will he get the time he needs, they have given him the time via his contract but his lack of experience may count against him. With Spurs having a slow start it would not be a surprise to see Poch move on. To me he seems the ideal manager for this rebuilding job.

[TabClear]

I have just seen that twitter post showing Phil Jones mouthing 'sacked in the morning'. What a clown, he should be turfed out asap. Clowns like him who are average players on bloated contracts is one of the main reasons united are where they are.

United are at the beginning of a major rebuilding job which will take a good couple of years and no matter who is in change they need time as results are not going to change over night. Ole in fairness has brought in 3 good signings who have improved the side so its a good first step, next he needs a creative midfielder and centre forward, then its building up the squad which is extremely light currently.

Will he get the time he needs, they have given him the time via his contract but his lack of experience may count against him. With Spurs having a slow start it would not be a surprise to see Poch move on. To me he seems the ideal manager for this rebuilding job.

I saw that. Was that Woodward sitting in front who told him to "shut up ,we're on TV".

[gallsman]

Yup, can read both their lips pretty easily and vast majority of people on Twitter seem to agree.

[NAG1]

Yup, can read both their lips pretty easily and vast majority of people on Twitter seem to agree.

Think the only reason that Jones didn't go out on loan and Smalling did was because no one would even take him on loan. He is going to sit on the bench or mostly not even in the squad for the majority of the season barring injuries/ suspensions.

I don't think any of the fans are shocked with where the team are at the moment, glad to see Rio giving a bit back to these eejits on the fan TV channel. Guys like that made a mockery of Arsenal and Wengers last season at the club, just for their own ends.

There is a rebuilding job in progress, so it is a matter of sitting tight and hoping that they give Ole the time to see it through and then judge him when he has his own stamp on the team and more importantly his own players in that team.

[Hound]

I have just seen that twitter post showing Phil Jones mouthing 'sacked in the morning'. What a clown, he should be turfed out asap. Clowns like him who are average players on bloated contracts is one of the main reasons united are where they are.

United are at the beginning of a major rebuilding job which will take a good couple of years and no matter who is in change they need time as results are not going to change over night. Ole in fairness has brought in 3 good signings who have improved the side so its a good first step, next he needs a creative midfielder and centre forward, then its building up the squad which is extremely light currently.

Will he get the time he needs, they have given him the time via his contract but his lack of experience may count against him. With Spurs having a slow start it would not be a surprise to see Poch move on. To me he seems the ideal manager for this rebuilding job.

I saw that. Was that Woodward sitting in front who told him to "shut up ,we're on TV".

I think that's a case of Twitter taking the mick.

To me, Jones just says "Poor". And, by pure coincidence, Woodward turns around at the same time to say something to the person beside Jones.

But I could be wrong, and the Twitter version is certainly juicier!