Proof there is no god.

[omaghjoe]

That is not what my interpretation of what faith is or should be. It would go a long to explain the gobshitery present in Irish RC society tho. We've got the perfect example of someone with 'devout' faith on this board who does nothing but undermine what he professes to believe in.

Good man benny nothing like a bit of Ad hominen when you realise your point is a load of balls eh?

[Avondhu star]

If there ever was a God in Tyrone then I suspect that he has retired.

If there is a God in Tyrone he has a lot of explaining to do.

[take_yer_points]

If there ever was a God in Tyrone then I suspect that he has retired.

Retired a few years back. Working for Sky in the summer these days

[armaghniac]

If there ever was a God in Tyrone then I suspect that he has retired.

Retired a few years back. Working for Sky in the summer these days

well of course God can be found in the Sky!

[bennydorano]

That is not what my interpretation of what faith is or should be. It would go a long to explain the gobshitery present in Irish RC society tho. We've got the perfect example of someone with 'devout' faith on this board who does nothing but undermine what he professes to believe in.

Good man benny nothing like a bit of Ad hominen when you realise your point is a load of balls eh?

Dead on Joe. Fabricated Faith rocks.

[Owen Brannigan]

Anyone attend the Prof. Brian Cox lecture last night in the SSE Arena?

It was an explanation of the beginning of the universe and the remaining 'mystery' of how we evolved on this planet through a series of probabilities that didn't occur on other planets in this solar system but have they occurred in the trillions of others in the universe and beyond.

Excellent lecture delivered to a crowd of over 5,000.  Not sure how well it would have gone down with Tony and the creationists.

[Main Street]

There is perhaps too much focus placed on some western religious dogma on how they claim the universe was created. For example, most of the catholic church adherents believe in evolution.

I don't quite know how accurate this graph is, but it is worthy of interest. It does support many other studies that Darwin's theory of evolution does not contradict most religious /spiritual deeply held religious beliefs/understanding  on how the universe and all who live in it, have evolved.

[Owen Brannigan]

There is perhaps too much focus placed on some western religious dogma on how they claim the universe was created. For example, most of the catholic church adherents believe in evolution.

I don't quite know how accurate this graph is, but it is worthy of interest. It does support many other studies that Darwin's theory of evolution does not contradict most religious /spiritual deeply held religious beliefs/understanding  on how the universe and all who live in it, have evolved.

Evolution as put forward by Darwin is just a small part in the overall cosmology that describes the development of the universe.  Latest theory explained by Brian Cox on Tuesday evening is based on a development of a tiny piece of space which grew in incremental steps until for some reason it led to the steps before the big bang.

[haranguerer]

They believe in evolution because they've no choice. Same as they believed the earth was round whenever it was proven. And now the theory is 'intelligent design', which basically consists of saying 'sure this all couldn't have happened by chance' when of course it did.

[J70]

There is perhaps too much focus placed on some western religious dogma on how they claim the universe was created. For example, most of the catholic church adherents believe in evolution.

I don't quite know how accurate this graph is, but it is worthy of interest. It does support many other studies that Darwin's theory of evolution does not contradict most religious /spiritual deeply held religious beliefs/understanding  on how the universe and all who live in it, have evolved.

Evolution (or any scientific explanation) is only at odds with those religious dogmas which stakes everything on a literal, word-by-word, interpretation of whatever ancient (transcribed over millennia mind you!) text or other source they use as a basis.

There's plenty of wiggle room in Catholicism, with everything interpreted through a priesthood and thus subject to some form of evolution itself. Fundamentalist protestantism or LDS, not so much.

Whether that is a good thing or not for the credibility of a particular religious group depends on your perspective.

[Main Street]

They believe in evolution because they've no choice. Same as they believed the earth was round whenever it was proven. And now the theory is 'intelligent design', which basically consists of saying 'sure this all couldn't have happened by chance' when of course it did.

You are claiming certainty about your belief that the universe was created by chance?
Brian Cox was asked once what he dislikes most, he replied, "people with certainty"

Well, what are the odds of all that happening by chance? Chance was the creator. Chancists or Chancers have a belief in Chancism. Chance being the  creative force behind  all creation, all evolution. In the beginning, before everything there was chance who happened upon an empty space, lo and behold by chance there was energy crackling in that space and then by chance this universe was born, the movement of the planets, everything  in this wide and wonderful universe, all by chance. Humankind evolved by chance, consciousness evolved by chance.

Astronomist/cosmologist Fred Hoyle once wrote  "the chance that higher forms have emerged in this way is comparable with the chance that a tornado sweeping through a junk-yard might assemble a Boeing 747 from the materials therein"

[Hardy]

They believe in evolution because they've no choice. Same as they believed the earth was round whenever it was proven. And now the theory is 'intelligent design', which basically consists of saying 'sure this all couldn't have happened by chance' when of course it did.

You are claiming certainty about your belief that the universe was created by chance?
Brian Cox was asked once what he dislikes most, he replied, "people with certainty"

Well, what are the odds of all that happening by chance? Chance was the creator. Chancists or Chancers have a belief in Chancism. Chance being the  creative force behind  all creation, all evolution. In the beginning, before everything there was chance who happened upon an empty space, lo and behold by chance there was energy crackling in that space and then by chance this universe was born, the movement of the planets, everything  in this wide and wonderful universe, all by chance. Humankind evolved by chance, consciousness evolved by chance.

Astronomist/cosmologist Fred Hoyle once wrote  "the chance that higher forms have emerged in this way is comparable with the chance that a tornado sweeping through a junk-yard might assemble a Boeing 747 from the materials therein"

Fred was spouting bunkum. It's a completely misconceived and ridiculous analogy. Higher life forms were not conceived in a sudden, singular event like his tornado creating a 747. Darwin explains how life forms, culminating in the higher ones, evolved through natural selection over millions of years.

It's hard to comprehend how anybody, never mind an eminent astronomer, who read "On The Origin Of Species" could so misunderstand it as to produce such a stupid misrepresentation of its conclusion.

[foxcommander]

If evolution is true how does that explain people from Meath?

[armaghniac]

If evolution is true how does that explain people from Meath?

God created them to test us.

[omaghjoe]

They believe in evolution because they've no choice. Same as they believed the earth was round whenever it was proven. And now the theory is 'intelligent design', which basically consists of saying 'sure this all couldn't have happened by chance' when of course it did.

What happened by chance? Are you saying you don't believe in the laws of physics?