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Title: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 26, 2007, 10:41:11 AM
As was mentioned on another thread, lots of english teams have their own dedicated threads, so here's one for the Bhoys.
Any of you Hoops supporters out there feel free to contribute.

"Departing Real Madrid midfielder David Beckham could be in direct opposition to Celtic in the USA this summer.
Celtic have been confirmed as the opposition in the 2007 MLS All-Stars Game in Colorado this on 19 July.

And, by then, former England international Beckham could have made his move to LA Galaxy.

Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell told his club website: "We are absolutely delighted to be travelling to America again this pre-season."

Gordon Strachan's side will face the top players of Major League Soccer in the prestigious game at the Dick's Sporting Goods Park in Commerce City, Colorado.

"Celtic has a world-wide audience, with thousands of fans in the United States, and I am sure this passionate support will be looking forward to welcoming the team back," said Lawwell.

MLS commissioner Don Garber extended a warm welcome to the Scottish Premier League leaders.

"We are thrilled to welcome Celtic, one of the world's most popular teams, for a quality match against the best of MLS at our newest soccer cathedral, Dick's Sporting Goods Park," he said.

"We look forward to an exciting evening in this tremendous new soccer-specific venue."


COME ON THE HOOPS!!!




Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Over the Bar on January 26, 2007, 10:43:17 AM
Still no word on Thompson & Brown from Hibs I see.   This one's dragging out and I can see both opting to follow Smith to Mordor.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: realredhandfan on January 26, 2007, 10:44:26 AM
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: 5 Sams on January 26, 2007, 10:47:17 AM
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Dick's Sporting Goods Park in Commerce City, Colorado.

Jesus wept....only in America
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 26, 2007, 10:47:53 AM
Hopefully not, I think it's going to be one of those big announcement days at Paradise, you know transfer window closing and Celts sweating etc...

Sure the two lads are to young for the Orcs anyway  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 02, 2007, 10:51:38 AM
Celtic sign Hartley from Hearts - excellent news, Paul is a die-hard Celtic fan from he was a kid, and he's a hanly enough player into the bargin.
Moloney HAS gone to Aston Celtic, the wee lad is getting a bit of flack from some quarters in the Celtic support for being mercenary, good luck to him is what i say, I don't think it's the best move he could have made but sure!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 02, 2007, 11:30:55 AM
Poor form from Maloney, repeated what Miller did before him. Except Celtic stood by him during his cruciate and this is how he rewards them.  ::) Hope he enjoys mid table mediocrity as only one player has left the Celts in recent years and gone on to bigger and better things, and Maloney ain't no Larsson.

Great news on Hartley, better player than Thompson and cheaper as well...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 02, 2007, 11:41:04 AM
IMO Maloney was over rated and I could not believe how a 'headless chicken' like him managed to win the player of the year award last year.
Hartley and numerous others imo were far more deserving. OK Celtic won the league, but overall no one stood out for them last season, as it was a real team effort. Certainly in the games I saw, maloney didnt stand out, though he scored some spectacular goals. He also missed a chunk at the start of the season.

Think Strachans way was paved by ONeill - MON certainly catapulted the Celtic name back up the rungs of the football ladder in europe in status if not actual achievement. This has obv given strachans team a better co-efficient to play with and is a genuine help.
MON only knows how to play the old Forrest way, with a bit of route one to start it all off. He wont use more than 14 or 15 players in a season - less if he can keep them inj free.

Strachan also has mad notions in terms of team selection (I mean Jarosik playing just off the front man with his back to goal - I know he's 6' 4" but he cant play that way) and the squad rotation is prob generating competition for places, but its not building up a winning team and going into a game v milan in a couple of weeks - looks like they will be thumped without some cohesion and continuity.
Although Hearts, Hibs and Rangers have been so inconsisten that they are being labelled as 'poor' this season I think the top 4 or 5 in the SPL would do ok in the epl - certainly a couple would be involved in relegation dogfight, but I honestl doubt they would not be competitive and be guaranteed to go down. Certainly with epl finances they would be able to stay up imo.
Rangers exploits in Europe show that they are not as bad a side as people think.

Celtic have benefitted by the others inconsistencies and the 100 miles an hour frenzy that is usually an spl game is mostly far more honest as it is exciting than the epl version.
Only Arsenal on a weekly basis and a few fleeting glimpses of marvellous skill from liverpool, man u, chelsea and spurs spring to mind to rivel the entertainment factor - even if the quality may be deemed inferior on the spl teams.

Strachan was way off in his first season in terms of tactics, and is obv learning -his def formations v man u worked overall. Maybe he is lucky, but is being lucky too often if that is the case - so I have to think he is learning and getting better and maybe I'll even say he's actually doing a good job right now.
Next season shoul dbe interesting with Walter smith back at rangers, but Hearts are again the huge threat if they can stop shooting themselves in the foot.

Celtic have recently aquired the Hibs coach , who was responsible for most of that fantastic young skilled talent that were at easter road.
Aberdeen and a few others have fantastic youth programmes too and I am surprised that not more scots make it in England.
Most dont even make it out of scotland. A lot of 'cheap' eircom leage players are being snapped up by scots clubs which makes it even more interesting for Irish viewers.
Interested to hear LDA's assessment.
If the SPL had more money , it would be an even better league, but maybe to the detriment of the 'home grown' talent which I think right now is really coming to the fore.
Certainly at Celtic.

IMO
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 02, 2007, 02:25:17 PM
Poor form from Maloney, repeated what Miller did before him. Except Celtic stood by him during his cruciate and this is how he rewards them. 
Great news on Hartley, better player than Thompson and cheaper as well...

Bit of irony there surely, you could just as easily argue that Hearts took Hartley from obscurity and he repays them by moving to Celtic!

I used to be of the opinion that Maloney was indeed as Lynchbhoy said "a headless chicken" but his performances last season were excellent and suggested he had matured into a fine player. Might well have benefited him to stay in Scotland for another season or two though before trying his luck down south.
With McGeady and Riordan though will Celtic really miss him?

The last couple of weeks have been disappointing for Scottish football IMO. After a few seasons when the rest of the clubs were putting it up to the Old Firm we have seen Rangers sign Thompson from Hibs with Brown likely to follow in the summer. Theyre also taking Gow from Falkirk in the summer and probably McDonald from Motherwell too.
Celtic have got Pressley (albeit down to Hearts themselves) and Pressley having recently raided Hibs for Riordan. And whilst its good news for Celtic to have lured the Hibs Youth Coach its not so good for the Hibees!

Then when the Old Firm dominate they complain they dont get a challenge from the rest - after stripping them off their best players!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 02, 2007, 02:33:01 PM
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Bit of irony there surely, you could just as easily argue that Hearts took Hartley from obscurity and he repays them by moving to Celtic!

Correct me if I'm wrong but did Hartley not sign a contract with Hearts recently ensuring that they got a fee for him??? Celtic stood by Maloney during his rehabilitation and he led them on a song and dance for nearly a year about signing a new contract. Still though £1 million is a super fee for a fellow who's out of contract in the summer.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 02, 2007, 02:51:00 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but did Hartley not sign a contract with Hearts recently ensuring that they got a fee for him??? Celtic stood by Maloney during his rehabilitation and he led them on a song and dance for nearly a year about signing a new contract. Still though £1 million is a super fee for a fellow who's out of contract in the summer.

I dont think Hartley signed a new deal with Hearts to ensure they got a fee for him, it was more down to the fact that Romanov was offering him a big payrise!
Could also talk about the likes of Caldwell and Riordan who Hibs lost for a pittance. Thats the way the system works and more often than not Celtic play it very well, I dont really see how they can complain when it occasionaly goes against them. Plus as you say £1m is a great fee for a guy whose deal is up in the summer, the OF would never pay anything like that to a fellow SPL club in the same situation (look at the Huns offering Falkirk £100,000 for Gow >:()
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 02, 2007, 03:36:38 PM
U misread what I said, the fact that Hartley signed a deal ensured that Hearts could be able to sell him (I'm sure he had his own interests first). This is not a like for like comparision with Maloney.

You don't like the two big clubs from Glasgow, we get it, move on.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 02, 2007, 03:48:18 PM
U misread what I said, the fact that Hartley signed a deal ensured that Hearts could be able to sell him (I'm sure he had his own interests first). This is not a like for like comparision with Maloney.

You don't like the two big clubs from Glasgow, we get it, move on.

My feelings towards the Old Firm are hardly relevant, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of Celtic fans having a go at Maloney for exercising his right to run down his contract and move on given how often they do the same thing to other clubs.

Once again a siege mentality from some Celtic fans on this board with anybody who dares to move away from the party line getting it in the neck.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: laughinpaddy on February 02, 2007, 03:57:44 PM
U misread what I said, the fact that Hartley signed a deal ensured that Hearts could be able to sell him (I'm sure he had his own interests first). This is not a like for like comparision with Maloney.

You don't like the two big clubs from Glasgow, we get it, move on.

My feelings towards the Old Firm are hardly relevant, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of Celtic fans having a go at Maloney for exercising his right to run down his contract and move on given how often they do the same thing to other clubs.

Once again a siege mentality from some Celtic fans on this board with anybody who dares to move away from the party line getting it in the neck.
I think your getting a little excited there!  This did not happen to Sutton, Thompson, Hartson, Agathe, Larrson etc all big names for Celtic in there days who choose to move to other clubs despite a contract being offered by Celtic, the only difference is that Maloney only a few months ago stressed that he would love to sign a new contract for Celtic. If a player says he wants to stay he should stay plain an simple!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 02, 2007, 04:11:03 PM
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I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of Celtic fans having a go at Maloney for exercising his right to run down his contract and move on given how often they do the same thing to other clubs.

If Maloney came out and said he wanted to run down his contract and then look at his options I think most would accept that as well within his rights, whilst not being happy with his decision. However he didn't, he hummed and hawed and when one agent had more or less agreed a deal with Celtic he dropped him and hired another. Again they were near a deal and then, low and behold, he was off to Villa. At least Brown came out this week after removing his transfer request and said he intended to run down his contract and then consider his options. I don't think Celtic fans have a problem with MON or Villa (especially after they paid 1 million for him) so the fact that you say Celtic fans are hypocritics for "having a go at Maloney" even though their club signs other players on Bosmans is factually incorrect.

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Once again a siege mentality from some Celtic fans on this board with anybody who dares to move away from the party line getting it in the neck.

Move as far away as u like from the party line, but there's no need for every post on SPL matters to include a dig at Celtic. Like I said, u don't like them, we get it, move on.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 02, 2007, 04:37:42 PM
Poor form from Maloney, repeated what Miller did before him. Except Celtic stood by him during his cruciate and this is how he rewards them. 
Great news on Hartley, better player than Thompson and cheaper as well...

Bit of irony there surely, you could just as easily argue that Hearts took Hartley from obscurity and he repays them by moving to Celtic!

I used to be of the opinion that Maloney was indeed as Lynchbhoy said "a headless chicken" but his performances last season were excellent and suggested he had matured into a fine player. Might well have benefited him to stay in Scotland for another season or two though before trying his luck down south.
With McGeady and Riordan though will Celtic really miss him?

The last couple of weeks have been disappointing for Scottish football IMO. After a few seasons when the rest of the clubs were putting it up to the Old Firm we have seen Rangers sign Thompson from Hibs with Brown likely to follow in the summer. Theyre also taking Gow from Falkirk in the summer and probably McDonald from Motherwell too.
Celtic have got Pressley (albeit down to Hearts themselves) and Pressley having recently raided Hibs for Riordan. And whilst its good news for Celtic to have lured the Hibs Youth Coach its not so good for the Hibees!

Then when the Old Firm dominate they complain they dont get a challenge from the rest - after stripping them off their best players!

but these clubs still keep producing great talent
Falkirk had Stokes (on loan) and gow who is looking super every time I see him
Aberdeen are always turning them out
Hearts were before the money revolution
Hibs I still think will continue on with their great youth policy (they have no choice)

in spite of the two glasgow clubs taking the best from the rest to water down the challenges
I still think they will continue to be pressed in almost every game
dont be so downhearted!

still think maloney has not progressed the way I thought he might
McGeady has, and alsong with riordan - Celtic dont need maloney
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 02, 2007, 09:56:10 PM
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Bit of irony there surely, you could just as easily argue that Hearts took Hartley from obscurity and he repays them by moving to Celtic!

Celtic stood by Maloney during his rehabilitation and he led them on a song and dance for nearly a year about signing a new contract. Still though £1 million is a super fee for a fellow who's out of contract in the summer.

I've gotta say MON has made us a fortune since he's taken over Aston Celtic!  ;D
Just wait til Stan comes home for £1.5 million!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 04, 2007, 02:52:34 PM
If Maloney came out and said he wanted to run down his contract and then look at his options I think most would accept that as well within his rights, whilst not being happy with his decision. However he didn't, he hummed and hawed and when one agent had more or less agreed a deal with Celtic he dropped him and hired another. Again they were near a deal and then, low and behold, he was off to Villa. At least Brown came out this week after removing his transfer request and said he intended to run down his contract and then consider his options. I don't think Celtic fans have a problem with MON or Villa (especially after they paid 1 million for him) so the fact that you say Celtic fans are hypocritics for "having a go at Maloney" even though their club signs other players on Bosmans is factually incorrect.

Move as far away as u like from the party line, but there's no need for every post on SPL matters to include a dig at Celtic. Like I said, u don't like them, we get it, move on.

Of course its not factually incorrect, Celtic fans have a history of throwing a hissy fit when a young player leaves them yet they welcome similar players from other clubs with open arms. Its not the kind of point which could be factually correct or incorrect.
As for the second point only the most paranoid Celtic fan would claim every post I make has a dig at them. All I was doing earlier in this thread was raising a point about the Maloney thing...your "u don't like them, we get it, move on." line was irrelevant, uncalled for and also a strange to say on a discussion forum. Is this KWB with a new username??

Anyway Celtic cruising through to the last 8 of the cup today and looks like a very open competition, the draw will be interesting.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 04, 2007, 03:09:55 PM
Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Celtic
Queen of the South v Hibernian
Motherwell v St Johnstone
Dunfermline v Partick

Tricky enough draw there, Celtic got a lucky victory at Caley Park last weekend so wont be easy. Decent draw for Hibs and another chance for them to bury their Scottish Cup hoodoo, 105 years and counting :o
 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 04, 2007, 09:01:40 PM
Inverness Caledonian Thistle v Celtic
Queen of the South v Hibernian
Motherwell v St Johnstone
Dunfermline v Partick

Tricky enough draw there, Celtic got a lucky victory at Caley Park last weekend so wont be easy. Decent draw for Hibs and another chance for them to bury their Scottish Cup hoodoo, 105 years and counting :o
 

I think Caley in the league is different then the cup.
Today we more then dismissed Livi, some might say big deal, but this Celtic team are improving with every game, there are new faces making their mark each week, the futures bright, the futures GREEN!!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 04, 2007, 09:25:48 PM
I think Caley in the league is different then the cup.

And much harder if history is anything to go by ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 04, 2007, 09:35:41 PM
I think Caley in the league is different then the cup.

And much harder if history is anything to go by ;D

Touche.  ;)
But a Celtic Hibs final is on the cards.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 07, 2007, 10:35:25 AM
McGeady agrees new deal at Celtic
 
McGeady has made 60 appearences for Celtic since 2004
Celtic winger Aiden McGeady has agreed a new four-and-a-half-year contract extension at Parkhead.
The 20-year-old Republic of Ireland international had more than a year remaining on his pre-existing deal.
However, following Shaun Maloney's recent transfer to Aston Villa, Celtic were keen to extend McGeady's stay.
Speaking to the official club website, McGeady said: "I'm delighted to agree this new contract with Celtic and commit my future to the club."
Interview: Celtic winger Aiden McGeady
Interview: Celtic manager Gordon Strachan
McGeady insisted that his decision to extend his Celtic stay had nothing to do with the departure of former jersey rival Shaun Maloney.
 
It's a strong commitment from both sides


Celtic manager Gordon Strachan
"To be honest, it didn't really play a big part because players make their own decisions," he said.
"Shaun maybe thought that his time at Celtic had turned him into a better player and it was the right time to go to England.
"I wish him all the best but even if Shaun had stayed I would have still been here fighting for a place in the team."
Celtic manager Gordon Strachan was delighted to have secured the Republic of Ireland international on a long term deal.
"It's a strong commitment from both sides," he said.
"Aiden is showing trust in us to look after him and we trust him because we believe he has got a lot to offer.
"There is still a lot of work to be done with him.
"That will be a great challenge for Aiden, myself and the rest of the coaching staff but he is going to be a great asset."
McGeady has also withdrawn from the Republic of Ireland squad ahead of next Wednesday's Euro 2008 qualifier with San Marino at the Serravalle Stadium because of a knee injury.       


Great news!!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 07, 2007, 12:06:35 PM
Some posts disappear from this thread??? Anyway thats a good bit of business by Celtic. Now McGeady has to show an extended run of form.
Was really impressed by Paul Hartley for Celtic the other day, he drove the team on and looks like he will improve the midfield.

Lynchbhoy how do you hear Alloa u19 scores in Ireland...they hardly mention them over here :oThey did win their derby against Stirling the other week.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 12, 2007, 01:29:15 PM
I see young Cillian sheridan (ex underage Cavan Gaelic footballer) was on the bench for Celtic on saturday....

have read he has been playing well for the reserve team/underage team and has been scoring a few recently

well done young fellow.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 15, 2007, 12:24:50 PM
Celtic plc interim results

Newsroom Staff
INTERIM RESULTS FOR THE SIX MONTHS TO 31 DECEMBER 2006

SUMMARY OF THE RESULTS

 

Operational Highlights

• Lead the Bank of Scotland Premierleague by 19 points

• Qualification for the last 16 of the UEFA Champions League

• Continued participation in the Tennents Scottish Cup

• 18 home matches played at Celtic Park in the period (2005: 15)

• Successful launch of international and domestic away kits

• Construction of the training academy at Lennoxtown progressing well

 

Financial Highlights

• Group turnover increased by 41.6% to £46.80m.
• Operating expenses increased by 8.5% to £32.04m.
• Profit from operations of £14.76m (2005: £3.50m).
• Gain on sale of intangible fixed assets £7.12m (2005: £nil)
• Profit before taxation of £17.94m (2005: Loss of £0.96m).
• Period end bank debt of £10.94m (2005: £8.57m).
• Investment in players of £6.32m (2005: £6.55m).

 

Click here for the full report.

 


CHAIRMAN’S STATEMENT
Thanks partly to the coincidence of a number of favourable factors, Celtic’s financial performance during the half-year ending December 31 2006 has been exceptionally good. Participation as Scotland’s sole representative in the European Champions League has had a transforming effect on our interim results when compared with a year ago; and we have also benefited significantly from transfer activities during the period.

 

By most measures our football results have also been the best for many years.  It is, however, part of the Chairman’s job to bring perspective to the Company’s performance and we cannot reasonably expect to repeat the outstanding features of the first half in the remaining months of the year.  That said, we are currently enjoying one of the best periods in the Club’s history.

 

Group turnover rose by 41.6% over the corresponding period a year ago.  Celtic played 3 more home games, 2 of which were European ties and 1 SPL game.  As a result, revenues from ticket sales increased by 42% to £21.6 million; and income from multimedia was up by 144% to £14.1 million.  Merchandise sales were down by some 10%, largely because there were 2 kit launches in the period, one fewer than in the corresponding period a year ago.  However retail gross margins showed a clear improvement over the period, reflecting careful management of costs and pricing of our merchandise products.

 

Operating costs as a whole rose by 8.5%, unsurprising in the light of the increased activity for the Company on almost all fronts.  The bulk of the increase occurred in payments to the playing and football management teams as bonuses for domestic and European competitions earned under a new remuneration scheme took effect.  We believe this new scheme will establish a better relationship for both players and Club between pay and performance, enabling us to control costs more effectively and rewarding players for the success on the field.  The ratio of labour costs (total and football) to turnover was 40.7% and 31.6% (respectively), compared with 51.9% and 40.1% a year ago; and 56.6% and 44.5% at the end of June last year.  Amortisation costs fell by some 16% over the period as several members of the previous squad left the Club to pursue their careers elsewhere.

 

It is in the measures of profitability that Celtic showed the most striking improvement compared with last year.  Operating profit rose from £74,000 to £11.9 million; and after taking account of gains on player transfers of £7.1 million, profit after interest and taxation amounted to £17.9 million.  The corresponding figure a year ago was a loss of £1.0 million.  This turnaround in our financial performance demonstrates in the most vivid way the importance of European football to clubs playing outside the leading five European countries; but it is also a testament to the professionalism of our executive team.

 

Gordon Strachan’s football squad also continues to excel.  At present the first team leads the Scottish Premier League by 19 points, has progressed to the quarter final of the Tennents SFA Cup and, for the first time, the Club has qualified for the final 16 in the UEFA Champions League.  On the face of it, and given the quality of the opposition, our involvement in that competition is expected by many to terminate at that point.

 

However the squad have already shown on several occasions this season that they will not accept defeat until the game ends and I am confident they will extend Celtic’s growing reputation in Europe, whatever the final result in the next round.

 

The emphasis on careful and patient use of our financial resources will continue to characterise our efforts to strengthen the first team squad; and we will also continue to find and develop players of quality from our youth and reserve squads.  Our reserve and under-19 teams lead their respective divisions and we aim to contribute to our younger players’ development by making them available on loan to gain regular playing experience at a higher level.

 

We recently secured the services of John Park as Football Development Manager.  Our scouting network now covers 16 countries and, taking account of our youth development programme, there was a need for a person of proven experience for that task.  John presided over these activities with great success at his previous club, Hibernian and we have now re-structured our Sports Science and Fitness function by recruiting two new highly regarded sports scientists.

 

In a separate initiative we have recruited a new fitness coach from Australian Rules Football, a sport in a country in the forefront of sports science and fitness. I now believe strong foundations have been put in place to find, develop and train future generations of footballers for the Club.  The construction of the new training ground and academy at Lennoxtown is progressing well and is expected to be available for next season.

 

I am greatly encouraged by our progress on these fronts. As I mentioned in our Annual Report last year, the very substantial additional amounts of money going into football in England from new television contracts have created a wide gulf between what Scottish clubs and their English counterparts can bring to the transfer market.  In some cases transfer fees and wage deals for players in the Championship south of the Border are beyond the reach of even the top Scottish clubs.

 

To a much greater degree than ever before, there are two separate markets with traffic between them largely moving in one direction in terms of evolving talent.  There is no point complaining about this.  The only remedy is to work hard to compensate by strengthening our capacity to identify, attract and develop our own players.

 

Celtic’s appeal outside the UK continues to grow.  We have an opportunity to visit Japan and the United States – where we will meet the MLS All Stars in July –when the current season ends; and we have received other enquiries from other countries to play there.  I cannot recall a period when interest in the Club has been higher.

 

Of course popularity is, as a famous US Presidential Candidate once said of flattery, “Fine so long as you don’t inhale”.  We will look positively at further possibilities of spreading the Celtic brand, but not to the extent that we damage it through excess.

Off the field, things are also going well.  We have consolidated our charitable and community operations under the Celtic Foundation. This will bring greater cohesion to all of our social and charity activities and increase the financial contributions and other tangible support we make to Scottish life.  This, of course, is our heritage and we will continue to make every effort to live up to it.

 

We continue to push ahead with our anti-sectarian activities and have fully supported the initiative of the Scottish Executive to remove the blight of religious bigotry from football.  Our supporters have responded magnificently to our appeals in this regard and I believe we are well on the way to disassociating the Club completely from offensive behaviour in this aspect of Scottish life.

 

In October Eric Hagman retired from the Board of Directors of Celtic plc and I would like to thank him for three excellent years of service to the Company. Kenny McDowall also left us to pursue his career elsewhere after 10 very successful years in charge of our reserve team.  We wish him well – relatively speaking – in his new job.

 

The last few weeks have seen the departure of Alan Thompson, Stephen Pearson and Shaun Maloney and we wish them luck at their new clubs; while welcoming Stephen Pressley, Mark Brown, Jean-Joel Perrier Doumbé and Paul Hartley to the Club.

 

These are exciting times at Celtic. It may be difficult not to be carried away by our successes on and off the field these last six months. Both our shareholders and our supporters certainly deserve the rewards we are currently enjoying. But what is more important is that there are signs that our efforts over several years to establish lasting improvements in our infrastructure, both as a football club and as a company, are now delivering a measure of success.

 

Our management team, led by Peter Lawwell, is showing great energy and initiative on all fronts. Gordon Strachan and his support staff are delivering outstanding consistency and resolve. And our supporters, as always, are our ultimate strength. I thank them for their dedication and commitment.

Brian Quinn CBE

14 February 2007

 

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 15, 2007, 02:49:12 PM
sack that accountant that allowed the books to show a profit !
 :o
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 16, 2007, 01:07:23 PM
With the league in the bag (the only question is when not if), I'm wondering what the other Celts on the board think of this weekends match against Aberdeen?
Not sure but half of me is saying, give them the three points as they are the only real challenge to the men from Mordor!


http://[color=green]For it's a Grand Old Team to play for[/color].....
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 16, 2007, 01:32:20 PM
With the league in the bag (the only question is when not if), I'm wondering what the other Celts on the board think of this weekends match against Aberdeen?
Not sure but half of me is saying, give them the three points as they are the only real challenge to the men from Mordor!
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Aberdeen are a great club for producing home grown talent.
They are always up there or thereabouts and have no money to spend on players, so their table position is always commendable.
They always make it hard for Celtic and indeed they and hibs seem to tbe the teams that give Celtic the most trouble in the past 5 years - more so than rangers or hearts.
The last couple of years there have been a few draws and maybe only a goal seperating the teams, Pittodrie is a hard place to go and win at.
Celtic if they are being pro, need to go and try to set a pattern that will carry over into their game v milan.
otherwise they are fecked.
I think GS's tinkering with the team has had a bad effect. Also Celtic traditionally this past three years seem to lose all continuity after an international week/weekend - so are still trying to find form. Hibs almost caught them, Aberdeen will be a banana skin.
the league is won , but Celtic want to play somewhat decently in the CL, if not to try and progress.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: laughinpaddy on February 16, 2007, 02:06:41 PM
I think the Celts as lynchbhoy states need to be going into the Milan game with a big result behind them.  Aberdeen always make it hard for celtic with their defensive formation, so GS should put out his strongest side and hope that they play to thier potential which would bring them into the milan game with confidence and conviction.

In the past no teams have 'given' celtic the points so why should they 'give' the dons the points?
Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 18, 2007, 12:52:10 PM
Good to see young Stokes setting the Championship alight with his 10 min here and there cameos from the bench. Behind David Connolly in the pecking order........ :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 19, 2007, 10:34:27 AM
Monday, 19 February 2007


Associazione Calcio Milan

 

Ground: San Siro (Stadio Giuseppe Meazza), Milan

Nickname: Rossoneri (The Red And Blacks)

 

Fixtures

 

Celtic vs AC Milan  : Tues 20th February 1945 hrs

AC Milan vs Celtic : Wed 7th March 1945 hrs

 

 

Background:

 

Both Benfica and Manchester United were two of our qualifying group opponents who could rightly claim to be celebrated European clubs. In terms of footballing celebrity and pedigree however, not even the English league leaders can hold a candle to AC Milan. Like them or loathe them the Rossoneri are among the undisputed royalty of world football.

 

In the year that Celtic were celebrating their first decade of football in the East End of Glasgow, the British government appointed Alfred Edwards Esq. as vice-consul in Milan. Alfred decided that it would be just splendid if the Italians could learn to play cricket and give him something to watch of an afternoon whilst sipping his Pimms and orange. While he was at it, thought Alfred, he?d throw them a soccer ball and see what might happen. As such the seeds were sown and a year later Edwards appointed another Englishman, Herbert Kilpin as captain and coach of the newly formed Milan Cricket and Football Club. The Milanese public proved to be less than convinced of the entertainment value of cricket but bought into the footballing events with a real enthusiasm. In 1901 Kilpin led the footballing division of the club to the National League title, becoming the first team other than the previously all conquering Genoa to claim the flag.

In 1909 several factions within the club made it clear that they believed that the privilege of wearing the red and black should be reserved for paisanos, fellow Italians. A number however disagreed and felt that the club needed a more international flavour, they left the club to form another team under these international principles, and so began the Rossoneri?s greatest rivals, F.C. Internazionale Milano.

 

A decade later cricket was officially a dead duck in Italy and the club became simply Milan Football Club. The name change coincided with twenty years of underachievement and frustration at mid-table placings and the only notable excitement was yet another change (this time in the 1930?s), occasioned by Mussolini?s regime, when Il Duce decided that Milan Football Club didn?t sound remotely Italian enough and suggested at pistol point that Associazione Calcio Milano may be preferable.

 

Mussolini, as history tells us, picked the wrong side in the big stramash of 1939 and Italian football, like most others in the early forties, was all but disbanded. When competition resumed later in the decade, AC were on the ascendency and in 1951 clinched the Scudetto for the first time since 1907.

 

With the 60?s came coach Nereo Rocco, and his newly devised Catenaccio or ?door-bolt? tactic. Across the city Helenio Herrera was to take note of the style and impose it on his Inter team. The tactic itself was, unfortunately as dull as dishwater to watch but highly effective in shutting out opponents, relying as it did on defensive structure and ?tactical fouling?. It worked for Nero though and in 1963 AC Milan took out their first ever European cup, defeating Benfica 2-1 in the final. Hailed in Italy for most of the 60?s, eleven hooped Scotsmen sounded the death knell for the catenaccio when they tore it apart in the 1967 European Cup Final, recording an unprecedented 43 shots on goal.

 

While the seventies were a lean decade for the club, and culminated in a 1979 relegation to Serie B as a result of yet another Italian match fixing scandal, the 1980?s signalled AC Milan?s rise to genuine pre-eminence, a rise which has remained virtually unchecked since that time.

 

 

Honours

 

Where do we start? Try this on for size ; 17 Scudetto (National Titles), 14 times runner up. Twice winners of Serie B. 5 times Coppa Italia winners, 5 times Super Coppa di Lega winners. A remarkable 6 times winners of the European Cup / Champions League and 4 times runner up. Throw into the mix 2 European Cup Winners cups, 4 European Super Cups and 3 World Club Championships and you end up with the most successful side in the history of world club football, other than Real Madrid. AC Milan also hold the distinction of being, as at Feb 2007, the number 1 ranked team (by co-efficient) in the UEFA confederation.

 

Celtic Connections

 

Only one player has plied his trade in the Rossoneri and the, eh, Biancoverde. The sublime yet ridiculous, genius fascist heidbanger, Paolo Di Canio, who Tommy Burns signed from AC in 1996. Both clubs have also employed Carluke?s finest, big Joe Jordan, although on different sides of the touchline.

 

The memory of the two clubs recent (2004) Champions League encounters will be fresh in the mind of ?Tic supporters when a stoic Celtic performance held the Italians to a 0-0 draw in Glasgow in December, regaining some respect after an error ridden 3-1 defeat in Milan two months earlier.

 

 

Manager

 

Carlo Ancelotti has been coach at AC since leaving Juventus in 2001 to succeed the ousted Turk, Fatih Terim. Ancelotti had been an accomplished player in his own right, anchoring the midfield for both AS Roma and AC Milan and boasting 26 caps for the Italian national side in the 1980?s. After retiring from playing in 1992 he was appointed assistant coach at Reggina and gained a reputation as an astute task-master. So much so that when Nevio Scala jumped ship from Parma in 1996 Ancelotti was asked to return to his first professional club as head coach. In his first year he took the club to second place behind Juve in Serie A, their best ever finish in the competition. In 1999 ?Carletto? as he was known in his playing days, was offered the opportunity to replace Marcelo Lippi at Juventus and he jumped at the chance. His two years in Torino were laced with promise but were ultimately trophyless. Nonetheless, Berlusconi saw in Ancelotti a man who could motivate and team and when, in 2001 Juve started making grumbling noises over the lack of trophies and dropping not so subtle hints about how welcome Lippi would be if he wanted to return, Il Presidente made his move and brought Ancelotti to Milan. The moved proved an astute one and within 2 years ?Carletto? had won the Champions League, an achievement made all the sweeter by beating Lippi?s Juventus in the final. (Albeit a final which is a leading contender for the dullest of all time). In doing so Ancelotti became the fourth player to win a European Cup as both player and manager. Last year Frank Rikjaard would (with the timely assistance of Henrik Larsson) become the fifth. A 2005 disaster in the CL final against Liverpool aside, Ancelotti is, undeniably, a manager of intelligence and ability who will know Celtic very well by the time the two teams meet tomorrow.

 

Who To Look Out For.

 

This is an AC team that just oozes class. Not as full of foreign mega-talent as in previous era?s it is built around a core of home-bred players who work very hard for each other and are as combative as they are skilful. The stand-out creative player is undoubtedly Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite ? Kaka to you lot, and at only 24 he has already shown at every level of football that he can punish teams single-handedly. Kaka however is not our special pick for this Milan team; that is reserved specially for the man known throughout Italy simply as ?Il Capitano? ? the Captain.

Paolo Maldini is inarguably one of the finest defenders in the history of the worldwide game and is revered by those who follow the Rossoneri. Making his debut in 1984 Maldini has made over 750 appearances for his club making him easily the longest serving Rossoneri of all time. He also holds the distinction of having made the most Serie A appearances of any player, the most international caps of any Italian and has captained his country more times than any other player. A quite incredible CV.

With Maldini in the line up AC are a better unit, and a better team.

 

 

The Team

 

Goalkeeper:

 

The first choice Milanese (and Brasilian) keeper, Dida, will not be travelling with the squad. The man between the sticks is likely to be Marco Storari. Storari has spent 10 years in Italian football but only 3 in Serie A. He is a real journeyman who was brought to Milan just last month when back-up keeper, the disaster prone Australian, ?eljko Kalac picked up a knee injury. The Parkhead crowd has the capacity and the opportunity to really, REALLY, unsettle Storari. You know it makes sense....

 

Defence:

 

If Milan are lacking anything it?s certainly not defensive options and definitely not experience. Their starting defence is likely to have a combined age of approximately 150. Maldini is 38, Cafu is 36 and Costacurta is 40. Add in any of the additional centre back options, say the 29 year-old Marek Jankulovski and their back line is nudging 144 years old. Now this guarantees a couple of things; firstly they will all have played against far, far superior players to any in the Celtic line-up and they will all adapt to the big occasion with ease. It also means that if Kenny Miller plays and runs like he did against Benfica at home then at least 3 of them are likely to have hernias trying to catch him. They are incredible professionals who know each other inside out and play their system to perfection but pace can and will unsettle them.

 

 

Midfield:

 

The midfield that has been named to travel North is one of the finest to visit Glasgow in a long time. Players like Kaka, Seedorf and Pirlo are household names and Celtic fans especially are well aware of Gennaro (Rino) Gattuso, who is a fine player, and a much more accomplished and polished one than the teenager who appeared at Ibrox. Lookout for an appearance by Yoann Gourcuff the 20 year old Frenchman that the French press have christened ?Petit Zizou? given his similarity to the legendary Zidane. If ever Nakamura was presented with an opportunity to prove his ability it could be against this Milan midfield. If Shunsuke can make an impression against talent such as this then our little playmaker will have the world at his feet. Unfortunately the world has big pay-cheques and its not inconceivable that a standout performance would make him damn difficult to hold on to.

 

Attack:

We?re lucky that Inzaghi has been declared unfit and will not travel to Glasgow. We?re unluckly that Gilardino however has been given the go-ahead after picking up a knock last week. The youngster moved to Milan in 2005 after an 18 million pound transfer from Parma. It would be fair to say that his success since then has not been unqualified. No one has ever attempted to dispute his talent but he has perhaps not been as prolific as the man whose understudy Gilardino was intended to be, Andriy Shevchenko. The 24 year old went through 12 games in the 05-06 Champions League campaign without finding the net once.

 

With Inzaghi injured and the newly signed Ronaldo cup tied, Ancelotti?s other striking options are limited to former Betis striker, the Brazilian Ricardo Oliveira, and reserve team up-and-comer Davide Di Gennaro. Oliveira is not an established star of the Brazilian side but he has scored goals wherever he?s been and Strachan will not take him lightly.

 

Round Up

 

Class. And lots of it.

 

Chances?

 

Lets not kid ourselves here. AC Milan are the top ranked club side in Europe. They have a team packed with internationals and an almost perfect combination of experience, pace, strength and talent. They come to Celtic Park however with a dodgy third-choice keeper and their two best strikers injured. Celtic CAN beat this Milan side in Glasgow. In Italy however it will be desperately hard to hold onto anything less than a three goal lead and our European away record does not inspire confidence. A few of this current Celtic squad have the opportunity to write their names in the history books.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 19, 2007, 11:14:17 AM
never really rated inzhagi
but he is one of those lads who just have a knack of scoring..


Celtic have the edge at goalkeeper possibly
after that
well its going to be down to whether Celtic can up the tempo and cause as much confusion for the Italian side as possible and hopefully nick a goal from a free kick or something - maybe a headed goal from JVOH (who has really impressed me each time I have seen him play).
If Celtic do not play at breakneck speed and try to out play Milan - then they will get thumped.
This tie makes David v Goliath look like an even contest when you compare most of the players.

But in football as in all sports, you always have a chance, although its a lesser chance over two legs...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 19, 2007, 12:49:10 PM
Anthony Stokes continues his rich vein of form with another substitute appearance for Sunder'tic. Really must be enjoying all that guaranteed first team football he turned us down for.

Still....at least it;s the legendary marksman David Connolly keeping you from the starting 11 and not some duffer.........
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 19, 2007, 01:00:41 PM
Anthony Stokes continues his rich vein of form with another substitute appearance for Sunder'tic. Really must be enjoying all that guaranteed first team football he turned us down for.
Still....at least it;s the legendary marksman David Connolly keeping you from the starting 11 and not some duffer.........

I think he made the right choice.
I doubt if he would have been getting any guaranteed regular first team football with Celtic either.
Maybe in the past couple of weeks as they have had a bit of an inj/suspension crisis with their strikers
but Stokes is only a lad and has a LOT to learn.
I actually think he will learn a lot from Connolly and Stern John.
Experienced pro's. Far better than trying to learn from Arsenal's prima donnas or being 'taught' by headless chicken Robbie Keane.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 19, 2007, 01:08:05 PM
Naka's sublime free on Saturday, another reason to be optimistic for tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 20, 2007, 10:22:01 AM
D-day is nearly upon us, quick update from the BBC:

Celtic have concerns about the fitness of Craig Beattie, Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink and Maciej Zurawski ahead of the Champions League tie with AC Milan.

But fellow striker Kenny Miller will be fit after having an operation on a wisdom tooth abscess.

Celtic are minus cup-tied Steven Pressley and Paul Hartley.

Milan are similarly without Ronaldo, Marco Borriello is suspended, Filippo Inzaghi is out injured, while another striker, Alberto Gilardino, doubtful.

Gilardino has travelled with the squad and will be given a late fitness test.

Celtic will also give late tests to their three doubtful strikers.

Gary Caldwell has returned to training, but Darren O'Dea is expected to win the battle to partner Stephen McManus in Celtic's defence.


Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Tir na nÓg on February 20, 2007, 11:54:26 AM
Celtic have been in good form as of late. Usually they have been slow starters but in the last few games they have started very well and I think their hitting form at the right time. They will need to keep their concentration up for the 90+minutes because they have conceeded a few late goals this season. The away goal could make all the difference.

Think it will be  1-0 possibly 2-0 with a bit of luck. Then go to the san siro and try to hit them on the counterattack. We will need to watch out for Kaka though, quality player and joint top goal scorer.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 20, 2007, 12:03:34 PM

I think he made the right choice.
I doubt if he would have been getting any guaranteed regular first team football with Celtic either.
Maybe in the past couple of weeks as they have had a bit of an inj/suspension crisis with their strikers
but Stokes is only a lad and has a LOT to learn.

Would go along with that but I felt he would have better off giving it another 6 months at Falkirk. He was getting a regular game there at a decent standard and might well have played in a cup final. Could then have gone back to Arsenal at the end of the season and weighed up his options.

As for tonight Milan arent going that well and could be vulnerable. Celtic's defence a potential worry but in the past people like Kennedy and McManus have risen to the occasion so hopefully O' Dea will do likewise, he's looked decent enough in his SPL outings. Shame Miller is a bit out of sorts at the minute, his harrying game can really upset European centre defenders who are used to loads of time on the ball (ie his performances for Scotland against Italy and for Celtic against Benfica). Despite his recent poor form he might be a decent call to partner Venegoor of Hesselink or at least get the last half hour.

Some of the Celtic fans on here might enjoy this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQTPt-tBbp0
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 20, 2007, 12:15:01 PM
as Graveson has fallen foul of Strachan I'd expect
boruc
wilson, mcmanus, odea, naylor
nakamura, lennon, jarosik, mcgeady
jvoh beattie
starting tonight

miller will me more useful in the return leg when they need his speed for counter attacking.
Milan have quality but are an aging side and if celtic play the spl way (at a very fast pace) this will go a long way to upset the Italian side.
It will be interesting. Milan last came over and ground out a 0-0 result without looking to score. It will possibly be the same tonight, but Celtic underestimate this team at their peril. They have players that can score and Kaka is just one of them.
I think the keeper is making his debut tonight, as they leaked 3 goals to sienna last weekend.
Not as good as they were, but Celtic are very jekyll and hyde.
Celtic and Milan are neither brilliant in defense with the weak link mark wilson rather than the other three as is seen by the media.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 20, 2007, 01:03:41 PM
Only lack of match fitness would make Mark Wilson a weak link. TBH Lennon is looking more and more his age every match I see.

McGeady could be the main man, if selected, over these two legs - think the Milanese genuinely respect him (more than WGS by the looks of it)

Our central MF for this game could be ripped apart though bgy Pirlo, Kaka and (hate to say it) twatuso
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 20, 2007, 01:08:20 PM
think Wilson is a poor defender who is able to use his speed to cover it up.
Watching him over the past couple of years I have yet to be impressed. imo only his speed makes him a better option than Telfer.

Kaka would rip every defense apart. But if Celtic dont give them time on the ball to play football, then they will not be as effective...

will be intriguing tonight.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 20, 2007, 01:37:51 PM
With Lennon and Graveson/ Jarosik in CM Kaka could take out a chair, have a snooze, dream up what he's going to do next and get back up to do it before they neven got close unfortunatley  :(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: SlimShady on February 20, 2007, 01:50:04 PM
think Wilson is a poor defender who is able to use his speed to cover it up.
Watching him over the past couple of years I have yet to be impressed. imo only his speed makes him a better option than Telfer.

Kaka would rip every defense apart. But if Celtic dont give them time on the ball to play football, then they will not be as effective...

will be intriguing tonight.


 :D yeah, that speed merchant from Armagh will take him to the cleaners-Kaka will have to concentrate more on defending!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 26, 2007, 09:09:15 AM
after another dodgy looking team selection by Strachan, Celtic will be mightily relieved to have escaped with a win yesterday.
Highlight of the day was young Cavan lad and ex-Gaa footballer - Cillian Sheridan, actually being brought on and teeing up the winner for Kenny Miller.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 26, 2007, 01:45:19 PM
after another dodgy looking team selection by Strachan, Celtic will be mightily relieved to have escaped with a win yesterday.
Highlight of the day was young Cavan lad and ex-Gaa footballer - Cillian Sheridan, actually being brought on and teeing up the winner for Kenny Miller.


In fairness to Miller he still had a fair bit to do after Sheridan laid the ball off to him! Hopefully Miller will get a confidence boost from that and go on a wee run of goals...not been the best time for him with goal drought, teeth problems and running into linesmen ;D

The better team probably lost yesterday but Celtic had the mental strength to turn it around late and ICT lacked the mental strength to get over the finishing line.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 28, 2007, 10:38:07 AM
Sheridan nets new deal at Celtic 
 
Sheridan made his debut against Inverness on Sunday
Celtic striker Cillian Sheridan has signed a new three-year contract after making an instant impact on his debut.
The 18-year-old came off the bench to set up Kenny Miller's winning goal at Inverness on Sunday, which sealed a place in the Scottish Cup semi-finals.

"I will be working hard to try to ensure that I can make many more appearances for the Celtic first team," Sheridan told the club website.

"I know it will be difficult but I will certainly be doing all I can."

Celtic manager Gordon Strachan believes the Irish teenager can make a long-term impact.

"We are delighted to have secured Cillian on this long-term contract," he said.

"He is a talented player and, like other players at the club, he has the potential to achieve a great deal in the game.

"We will do all we can to ensure that Cillian and these other players realise their potential."

Source BBC newws.

Great news and good work from the Celtic team.


 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 01, 2007, 10:52:43 PM
St Johnstone in the semi-final off the Scottish cup, only a hardened bluenose wouldn't say that this is SC number 34 for the Bhoys...!  8)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 02, 2007, 01:18:44 AM
St Johnstone in the semi-final off the Scottish cup, only a hardened bluenose wouldn't say that this is SC number 34 for the Bhoys...!  8)

Did you see the Perth farmers beating Motherwell on Wednesday night?? 2-1 was no reflection on their dominance...they should have won by 4 or 5. And thats them played 5 SPL teams this season and only been beaten once (by Hibs in extra time after outplaying them). So while Celtic are clear favourites I wouldnt write off the rest yet..St.Johnstone could be awkward as could Hibs if they end up in the final!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 02, 2007, 09:43:28 AM
Would never write off any team LDA, especially after thte Inverness CT game and Dunfermlines win over the Hun breaking an 8 game losing streak!!!
I just feel that we should be good enough to beat them.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mannix on March 02, 2007, 09:55:20 AM
Whenever I hear about the great scottish champions I smile to myself.
Its a big fish in a small pond and of course they win every weekend and are deemed to be miracle players, put them into the premiership and see how heroic they are.
How many other teams apart from celtic or the other great team rangers have won the spl in the last 25 years?
Inverness and co really have little hope inside the next 25 making the spl a two horse race at best which really is not competition and is very boring!I understand this sounds insulting but is not meant to be, what would celtic fans think of some real competition in the spl?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 02, 2007, 11:26:22 AM
Whenever I hear about the great scottish champions I smile to myself.
Its a big fish in a small pond and of course they win every weekend and are deemed to be miracle players, put them into the premiership and see how heroic they are.
How many other teams apart from celtic or the other great team rangers have won the spl in the last 25 years?
Inverness and co really have little hope inside the next 25 making the spl a two horse race at best which really is not competition and is very boring!I understand this sounds insulting but is not meant to be, what would celtic fans think of some real competition in the spl?
maybe so , but in recent seasons Scotish teams have done well against english and euro opponents
the top few SPL teams if given a fraction of the cash that the bottom 10 eng prem team get would be more than a match for all of the bottom half of the epl.
imo....
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on March 02, 2007, 11:36:33 AM
When Celtic play an English team, they are very much up for it & play as if it were a Cup final. It's doing it on a consistent basis in the EPL that is the trick. For eg wouldnt fancy their chances going to Bolton or Portsmouth on a Wednesday night in December-IMHO
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 02, 2007, 11:50:49 AM
We all know Celtic are a (very) big fish in a small pond. We're talking about a former European Champion (who last appeared in a European Final as recently as 2003) participating in a League in a country which has a 5 million population, same as Ireland.
We'd all love to see the Celts in the Premiership but it may never happen, sadly. If they went down, they'd be comfortably in the top five/six for the first two or three years and then, having been handed £30 million plus of TV revenue for the third year in a row, could seriously challenge for the title. Anyone who thinks otherwise is daft.
Celtic is a huge club, not just in Scotland but across the world, and deserve to be playing in a stronger League. How big could they really become if they were in the Premiership? Methinks a big fish in a big pond!
The list of Celtic wins/draws in Europe in recent years is remarkable (Milan, Juventus, Barcelona, Utd, Bayern, Liverpool, etc..., not to mention Ajax, Celta Vigo, Stuttgart, Lyon, Blackburn, Benfica, Porto, and many more) considering the domestic League they play in and lack of TV money - and it pisses me off enormously when people run the club down for beating the teams put in front of them in Scotland.
Celtic are in with a fighting chance of a CL quarter final place next week (and I think they can actually do it!) and consider too how poor Rangers have been this year domestically and they've a great chance of making the last 8 of the Uefa Cup.
Teams like Hibs, Aberdeen and Hearts aren't the soft touches that some people (with no knowledge at all of these teams) think they are. In fact they would bigger than many of the teams in the over-rated Premiership if they were handed the same blank cheques from Sky as the Watfords, Sheff Utds, Charltons, Wigans, Readings, Fulhams and Portsmouths.
Celtic have suffered one defeat against Premiership opponents in their last eight Euro ties against Liverpool (1 win, 3 draws), Man Utd (1 win, 1 defeat) and Blackburn (2 wins). If it hadn't been for a dodgy penalty at Old Trafford, they might even be unbeaten in 8 meetings with English teams. Do they get any credit for it?
I could go on an on about this topic forever but I'll just finish by saying that it annoys me greatly when I read comments like these:
"Whenever I hear about the great scottish champions I smile to myself. Its a big fish in a small pond and of course they win every weekend and are deemed to be miracle players, put them into the premiership and see how heroic they are."
Celtic supporters are extremely passionate about their team and, no matter where they are plying their trade in future, will take great pleasure in every victory their team achieves - whether its against Inverness or Man Utd!
Comments from those people who can only make snide remarks about Celtic's achievements are not welcome. So keep your comments for the glorified EPL teams, unless you might want to give some due credit to the Celts for beating one of the giants of European football when it happens (quite often in fact!) Some chance of that happening!
PS. Of the ten different clubs that won the last 13 European CL finals Celtic have either drawn with or beaten eight of those successful clubs (Ajax, Milan, Barcelona, Bayern, Utd, Juventus, Porto, Liverpool) in meetings inside the last few years. And Celtic haven't even met the only other two clubs who won the trophy in that time - Borussia Dortmund and Real Madrid. But hey, lets concentrate on the wins over teams like Inverness and have a good go at Celtic and Scottsih football at every opportunity and just ignore the many other facts!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on March 02, 2007, 11:54:24 AM
I could go on an on about this topic forever but I'll just finish by saying that it annoys me greatly when I read comments like these:
"Whenever I hear about the great scottish champions I smile to myself. Its a big fish in a small pond and of course they win every weekend and are deemed to be miracle players, put them into the premiership and see how heroic they are."
Celtic supporters are extremely passionate about their team and, no matter where they are plying their trade in future, will take great pleasure in every victory their team achieves - whether its against Inverness or Man Utd!
Comments from those people who can only make snide remarks about Celtic's achievements are not welcome. So keep your comments for the glorified EPL teams, unless you might want to give some due credit to the Celts for beating one of the giants of European football when it happens (quite often in fact!) Some chance of that happening!
PS. Of the ten different clubs that won the last 13 European CL finals Celtic have either drawn with or beaten eight of those successful clubs (Ajax, Milan, Barcelona, Bayern, Utd, Juventus, Porto, Liverpool) in meetings inside the last few years. And Celtic haven't even met the only other two clubs who won the trophy in that time - Borussia Dortmund and Real Madrid. But hey, lets concentrate on the wins over teams like Inverness and have a good go at Celtic and Scottsih football at every opportunity and just ignore the many other facts!


You almost did go on forever :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 02, 2007, 12:38:50 PM
Its a big fish in a small pond and of course they win every weekend and are deemed to be miracle players, put them into the premiership and see how heroic they are.
How many other teams apart from celtic or the other great team rangers have won the spl in the last 25 years?
Inverness and co really have little hope inside the next 25 making the spl a two horse race at best which really is not competition and is very boring!I understand this sounds insulting but is not meant to be, what would celtic fans think of some real competition in the spl?

How many teams can win the English Premiership though? Its a two horse race this year and realistically only 1 of Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal (and maybe Liverpool) look like contenders for the forseeable future. The SPL has had two championships go down to the last minute of the last game in the last few years, I dont think people found that too boring ;) Ok its not the greatest league but neither is it bad as some people suggest. The same way the EPL is a decent league but nowhere as good as some people suggest.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mannix on March 02, 2007, 01:02:07 PM
It annoys you boys because its true, celtic have little or no competition in scotland.
I am not here to wind anyone up, just tire of hearing lads on about the great celtic and my cousin saying they would beat any team in the world.Its great and all being a big fish in a small pond,but its a great wonder the do not join the epl, i suppose that would not suit a team that knows it will be champion for 10 of the next 20 years or more.
I have nothing against celtic.They are no doubt a massive club but are definetly hamstrung in a third world league, the league of ireland is not far behind in terms of quality if the truth be told and only for the big 2 spl teams the thing would be just as big a joke.

I leave it at that and let you get all pissed off, the truth hurts.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 02, 2007, 01:11:20 PM
It annoys you boys because its true, celtic have little or no competition in scotland.
I am not here to wind anyone up, just tire of hearing lads on about the great celtic and my cousin saying they would beat any team in the world.Its great and all being a big fish in a small pond,but its a great wonder the do not join the epl, i suppose that would not suit a team that knows it will be champion for 10 of the next 20 years or more.
I have nothing against celtic.They are no doubt a massive club but are definetly hamstrung in a third world league, the league of ireland is not far behind in terms of quality if the truth be told and only for the big 2 spl teams the thing would be just as big a joke.

I leave it at that and let you get all pissed off, the truth hurts.

What a pile of steaming dung mannix!!
Did you not bother reading Closetotheharte's post!!  ???
As for Celtic not wanting to enter the EPL, they do want to but cannot because of red tape and some oppositation from teams in the EPL, you Muppet!!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 02, 2007, 01:38:21 PM
It annoys you boys because its true, celtic have little or no competition in scotland.
I am not here to wind anyone up, just tire of hearing lads on about the great celtic and my cousin saying they would beat any team in the world.Its great and all being a big fish in a small pond,but its a great wonder the do not join the epl, i suppose that would not suit a team that knows it will be champion for 10 of the next 20 years or more.
I have nothing against celtic.They are no doubt a massive club but are definetly hamstrung in a third world league, the league of ireland is not far behind in terms of quality if the truth be told and only for the big 2 spl teams the thing would be just as big a joke.

I leave it at that and let you get all pissed off, the truth hurts.
LMAO at the 'cousin' bit.

each to their own and all that. If thats what you think then thats your right to do so!

Almost Agree LDA - only two teams have any chance winning the EPL each season for as long as I can rem.
this has been spread over three teams - man u, arsenal and in the past couple of seasons - Chelsea.

as for boring football, apart from when they play the top teams like rangers or celtic - even the likes of inverness caledonian thistle play more entertaining football than 90% of the epl.

I am not a blind lover of spl soccer, but its mostly more entertaining to watch than the drivel that I see on tv in the epl 'highlights' let alone full games.
imo
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 02, 2007, 02:17:10 PM
It annoys you boys because its true, celtic have little or no competition in scotland.
I am not here to wind anyone up, just tire of hearing lads on about the great celtic and my cousin saying they would beat any team in the world.Its great and all being a big fish in a small pond,but its a great wonder the do not join the epl, i suppose that would not suit a team that knows it will be champion for 10 of the next 20 years or more.
I have nothing against celtic.They are no doubt a massive club but are definetly hamstrung in a third world league, the league of ireland is not far behind in terms of quality if the truth be told and only for the big 2 spl teams the thing would be just as big a joke.

I leave it at that and let you get all pissed off, the truth hurts.

Celtic have no competition in Scotland yet they have been knocked out the CIS Cup and were a minute away from going out of the Scottish Cup last week....looks like competition to me. You say they will be champions for 10 of the 20 seasons so presumably somebody else is going to win the other 10, isnt that competition :o?

As for you saying the SPL is a joke other than the old firm I doubt you have a clue what youre talking about, there are plenty of good players and good teams outside the old firm (which is why the old firm are always raiding the other teams for players).

I fear both you and your cousin are talking a load of rafael scheidt.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 03, 2007, 07:39:06 PM
It annoys you boys because its true, celtic have little or no competition in scotland.
I am not here to wind anyone up, just tire of hearing lads on about the great celtic and my cousin saying they would beat any team in the world.Its great and all being a big fish in a small pond,but its a great wonder the do not join the epl, i suppose that would not suit a team that knows it will be champion for 10 of the next 20 years or more.
I have nothing against celtic.They are no doubt a massive club but are definetly hamstrung in a third world league, the league of ireland is not far behind in terms of quality if the truth be told and only for the big 2 spl teams the thing would be just as big a joke.
I leave it at that and let you get all pissed off, the truth hurts.

Can't believe I ever started arguing with this idiot who just came back on and said the exact same thing over again. I'll not even bother answering this time.

You almost did go on forever :D

If this was 'full back' posting I'd be finished any time now...
Are you trying to become a hero member by breaking up your argument(s) into a thousand little pieces?
All right, I did go on a bit!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 03, 2007, 11:15:15 PM
It annoys you boys because its true, celtic have little or no competition in scotland.
I am not here to wind anyone up, just tire of hearing lads on about the great celtic and my cousin saying they would beat any team in the world.Its great and all being a big fish in a small pond,but its a great wonder the do not join the epl, i suppose that would not suit a team that knows it will be champion for 10 of the next 20 years or more.
I have nothing against celtic.They are no doubt a massive club but are definetly hamstrung in a third world league, the league of ireland is not far behind in terms of quality if the truth be told and only for the big 2 spl teams the thing would be just as big a joke.

I leave it at that and let you get all pissed off, the truth hurts.

Celtic have no competition in Scotland yet they have been knocked out the CIS Cup and were a minute away from going out of the Scottish Cup last week....looks like competition to me. You say they will be champions for 10 of the 20 seasons so presumably somebody else is going to win the other 10, isnt that competition :o?

As for you saying the SPL is a joke other than the old firm I doubt you have a clue what youre talking about, there are plenty of good players and good teams outside the old firm (which is why the old firm are always raiding the other teams for players).

I fear both you and your cousin are talking a load of rafael scheidt.

shit we really are going to the bottom of the barrel!!!!   ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 07, 2007, 03:46:05 PM
The night is nearly upon us.............!!!
Ohhhh I could crush a grape!!!

Just heard a Celtic fan was knocked down last night by a taxi, he died this morning. God rest his soul.

Hears to a Hoops victory, if only for the memory of this young fan....  :(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: charlie linkbox on March 07, 2007, 10:20:13 PM
And thus ends the European adventure.......
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Syd The Sailor on March 07, 2007, 10:23:49 PM
Did youse hear Ruud Gullit pishing himself laughing at the site of Lennon with his top off after the game. Priceless...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 08, 2007, 12:53:07 AM
Can't remember when I have been as bored watching one of Celtics big Euro nights. There was something of the inevitable about it all - you just knew they carried NO threat to Milan whatsoever.

Thats not to say Milan were good, far from it but even so they hit the post and bar how many times????Shot count near end = 28 to 5 at one stage

WGS has moulded a team that believes only in square /  backwards passing and hoofing long balls up front in random directions and which has enjoyed the luck of a million black cats, wearing rabbits feet sleeping under horseshoes adn the bonus of the worst Rankers team in decades.

For what it's worth........tonight

Boruc: once again our best player by a country mile
Naylor: good in places but still made way too many misplaced punts upfield. Last ditch tackling seemed to be interpreted as classy defending by pundits.
O'Dea: Solid
Bombscare: usual, solid and unskilfull
Telfer: usual shite self
Naka: where was he, did he miss the plane?
Lemon and Slow: back, back, sideways, back, lose ball -now repeat. Truly awful the both of them
Jarosik: how he looked good in prem is beyond me. A clown.
McGeady: tried at least, only threat we had all night
JVoH: not at races, won little in air, seemed to have very poor positioning (although this could be down to the STOOPID long balls we played from the back)

Subs:
Tommy G: played very well, only urgency in CM all night. Looked a bette forward in 20min than Miller has all season.
Beattie: last touch summed it up. Ball to feet in box - he falls over and ball ends up over goal line to kill game. Awful player.A bigger clown than Jiri even.
Miller: Time to go Kenny
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: bignifanatic on March 08, 2007, 02:25:54 AM
Just got in, what a great night out and I am knackered, it was grreat to see that Kaka shit all over celtic ;D

why dont all of you start supporting an up and coming team like Northern Ireland, at least we are still in the hunt for qualificationn for the European championship unlike you beloved sellik and do not even get me going on that shit you call fotball, it is a bad night for sellick fans and I am one happy wee country suporter. ;D I did the bouncy all the way home na nah na na.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: stephenite on March 08, 2007, 02:33:11 AM
I am one happy wee country suporter. ;D I did the bouncy all the way home na nah na na.

What country would that be son?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: charlie linkbox on March 08, 2007, 02:51:33 AM
I think bignidickhead your comment would be more suited to the "irrational phobia" thread.
Celtic should be congratulated for their efforts.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 08, 2007, 10:06:13 AM
Tyroneman, I think you were a bit harsh there in places. I was gutted at the outcome but I thought Celtic's performance was close to heroic for a lot of the game. Celtic needed all the luck going (as most teams visiting the San Siro would) and although the crossbar came to their rescue a few times they could have had two penalties - the first was a stonewall penalty. If that decision had been given Milan would have needed 2 goals and we could have had a classic.
Celtic didn't have many clear chances but they were brilliant defensively (the vast majority of those Milan shots were from far out because they found it very hard to get inside) with O'Dea (only 19), McManus and Naylor all outstanding. Even Telfer was solid. Is Boruc the bets keeper in the world right now?
In midfield, Sno (only 19) had a great first half but everything went pear shaped for him after that and he made the mistake which led to the goal. Don't worry, he'll come good in time. Lennon was quietly effective, but is clearly coming to the end. McGeady (only 20) was outstanding all night but Naka was certainly quiet on the other side while Venegoor battled away but found it tough up front on his own. Jarosik was disappointing (as he has been too often this season) but Gravesen made a big difference when he came on.
Celtic are certainly short a few quality players to reach the latter stages of the CL but they still could have done it last night. But I'm confident this team is on the way up and we'll see some more quality arriving in the summer (apparently Celtic will have their biggest transfer budget for years). The basis of a good team is there and I'm confident the Celts are going to get stronger under Strachan.
Celtic have come a long way in recent years and are still on an upward curve. The fact that they are being criticised by some for drawing home and away with Milan shows how far they've come.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 08, 2007, 01:15:18 PM
ClosetotheHarte. Much as I would love to champion last nights performace I just can't. In what was the biggest game for Celtic in a long long time I can't remember being so bored.

WGS has put together a team of cloggers, even moreso than MON. At least we had Larsson to inspire - who now??? Naka - sure he only plays home games. If you truly believe that the way forward for Celtic is to pack a MF with 2 holding players and hope for a free kick near the box then I that just sums up how low Celtic's footballing standards have got.

O'Dea is a good prospect however of the rest I would only keep Boruc, Naylor and McGeady

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The basis of a good team is there

Where???? Slow, Lemon, Jarosik, Majic, Miller, McManus, Telfer, Wilson and Beattie are all NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Naka - once again hid all night. Even his free kicks were dreadful to a one.

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Lennon was quietly effective, but is clearly coming to the end

Lemon did fcuk all last night. Couldn't even tub Kaka over in the centre to halt  his run. Was finished 2 years ago.

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I thought Celtic's performance was close to heroic for a lot of the game.

If by heroic you mean like the alamo, scrambling to get head, leg, foot and whatever else in front of the ball in a blind panic then fair enough. But lets not forget Milan had to basically break down a 10 man wall - and still hit the woodwork numerous times.

Next year we will need about 7 new faces for that squad. I predict the bargain basement will be raided.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 08, 2007, 01:53:38 PM
ClosetotheHarte. Much as I would love to champion last nights performace I just can't. In what was the biggest game for Celtic in a long long time I can't remember being so bored.

WGS has put together a team of cloggers, even moreso than MON. At least we had Larsson to inspire - who now??? Naka - sure he only plays home games. If you truly believe that the way forward for Celtic is to pack a MF with 2 holding players and hope for a free kick near the box then I that just sums up how low Celtic's footballing standards have got.

O'Dea is a good prospect however of the rest I would only keep Boruc, Naylor and McGeady

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The basis of a good team is there

Where???? Slow, Lemon, Jarosik, Majic, Miller, McManus, Telfer, Wilson and Beattie are all NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Naka - once again hid all night. Even his free kicks were dreadful to a one.

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Lennon was quietly effective, but is clearly coming to the end

Lemon did fcuk all last night. Couldn't even tub Kaka over in the centre to halt  his run. Was finished 2 years ago.

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I thought Celtic's performance was close to heroic for a lot of the game.

If by heroic you mean like the alamo, scrambling to get head, leg, foot and whatever else in front of the ball in a blind panic then fair enough. But lets not forget Milan had to basically break down a 10 man wall - and still hit the woodwork numerous times.

Next year we will need about 7 new faces for that squad. I predict the bargain basement will be raided.

I agree changes are required - and they'll happen. Also agree there are question marks over a lot of players - Jarosik and Gravesen above all, although Tommy is starting to show some of the reasons why we bought him and may come good next season - but I'v no doubt players like Naylor, Wilson (injury has held his development back this year), McManus (can't believe you didn't see how good he was last night!), O'Dea, Caldwell, McGeady, Sno (you're not giving a 19 year old much of a chance!), Naka, Riordan and Venegoor all have big roles to play in Celtic's future, plus Kennedy if he makes it back to where we was before his injury. Plus Hartley could have lots to offer over the next couple of years - his energy would have helped last night. Boruc is world class - hopefully we can keep him.
Time is up for Lennon, Telfer and Bobo - and Zurawski, partly through injury, has gone backwards, and I think most Celtic fans believe its also time to let Miller and Beattie go and get in a top quality partner for Big Jan, who went into last night's game with an injury and didn't do himself justice.
There is some surgery needed but not as much as you think. One good attacking midfielder and a real quality striker are top of the list. And maybe another two on top of that.
I agree it was very frustrating at times last night (couldn't say I was bored though) because Celtic had the beating of Milan and were lacking a cutting edge, and Naka was way below par, but it was another great learning experience for this side. As I said Celtic have come a long way and some more patience is required among supporters. Strachan has only been in charge for about 18 months and is still building his own team. It's a fact that Celtic will be spending more money this summer than they have done for some time.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hows she cutting on March 08, 2007, 04:48:41 PM
lennon did look slightly overweight i'd admit. I've been a big fan of his over the years and although yes he can still do a job in th SPL we need something more when it comes to the CL.

Sno needs to learn to pass the ball to a team mate and not always backwards

thought Graveson played well when he came on, although his delivery from set pieces when Naka went off was poor
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 08, 2007, 09:54:25 PM
WGS has moulded a team that believes only in square /  backwards passing and hoofing long balls up front in random directions and which has enjoyed the luck of a million black cats, wearing rabbits feet sleeping under horseshoes adn the bonus of the worst Rankers team in decades.

For what it's worth........tonight

Boruc: once again our best player by a country mile
Naylor: good in places but still made way too many misplaced punts upfield. Last ditch tackling seemed to be interpreted as classy defending by pundits.
O'Dea: Solid
Bombscare: usual, solid and unskilfull
Telfer: usual shite self
Naka: where was he, did he miss the plane?
Lemon and Slow: back, back, sideways, back, lose ball -now repeat. Truly awful the both of them
Jarosik: how he looked good in prem is beyond me. A clown.
McGeady: tried at least, only threat we had all night
JVoH: not at races, won little in air, seemed to have very poor positioning (although this could be down to the STOOPID long balls we played from the back)

Subs:
Tommy G: played very well, only urgency in CM all night. Looked a bette forward in 20min than Miller has all season.
Beattie: last touch summed it up. Ball to feet in box - he falls over and ball ends up over goal line to kill game. Awful player.A bigger clown than Jiri even.
Miller: Time to go Kenny

Bizzare stuff given Celtic were up against one of Europe's superpowers and a team who are on a different level in terms of quality of player and finance. Celtic were never going to go to the San Siro and boss the game but they did a good job of keeping it tight and threatening on the break. They should have had a penalty and crucial away goal in the first 5 minutes too and had another good shout later on.
Despite inheriting an aging team and a shrinking budget Strachan has taken the team further in the CL than MON ever did...you would think he deserves a bit of praise ???

As for your review of each player I find a lot of them unbelievable. Naylor had an excellent game and is one hell of a buy at £600k. Telfer might not be a fans favourite but got the job done and calling McManus "bombscare" is crazy...did well and led a defence which held a clean sheet in the San Siro over the 90mins - bombscare? :o Sno also did well and is another cracking bargain from Strachan. VoH wasnt match fit and playing as a lone striker...what were you expecting from him? Good shift in the circumstances. And was it not for Kenny Miller's outstanding showing against Benfica you would have been out of the competition long ago....plus his performances for Scotland against Italy and Germany have shown he can do it against the best defenders.

You need to be a bit more realistic.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 08, 2007, 11:41:54 PM
Lamh Dhearg Alba, well said. I thought Tyroneman was very harsh in his analysis - maybe it was just a knee jerk reaction to the defeat last night.
The Celts did us proud in the San Siro and sometime in the near future we may even get one of those penalty decisions in our favour against one of the 'superpowers' and more history can be made by this team. When you think of the number of dodgy penalties given against us in Europe (Lyon, ManU, etc) you'd think it would balance itself out over time but once again we didn't get even one of the two penalty awards we deserved last night.
Onwards and upwards!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 08, 2007, 11:50:43 PM
Celtic were / are just nt good enough. G Strachan has got them to the last 16, but they are not a great side to be honest and were lucky to get that far. OK when I say not great, they are as good as liverpool and not too far off man utd standard going on results head to head etc, but maybe the standards are falling

Celtic cannot complain, Strachan has been playing a rotation system that has stunted any kind of team continuity and as a result Celtic couldnt give a decent account of themselves even if they wanted to.

then Strachan plays a def formation. It worked at home v man u and also to a certain extend v milan last time out. They conceeded no goals, so GS more or less has to continue this line up.
I think he also is still feeling the pain of losing 5-0 away to artmedia bratislava, and the managerial lesson he learned that night - where he was complacent about his opponents.
So rather than go out and make a game of it, GS wants to keep it tight and hope to nick a goal from a breakaway, set piece or free kick etc as has happened this season.
The service to JVOH and any Celtic striker has been dire. Also playing jarosik as a secondary striker has never worked from day one when strachan did this. Why persist.
A decent run and battling performances from a very game side- but limited.
Also limited manager, is he a lucky one ...next season will tell...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 09, 2007, 12:48:01 AM
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OK when I say not great, they are as good as liverpool and not too far off man utd standard going on results head to head etc, but maybe the standards are falling

Now I like Celtic but they are not as good as either Man U or Liverpool. Granted they could put it up to them over two games (as they did with Man U) but if they were to play both of them 10 times they would definitely lose more than they win.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 09, 2007, 09:45:39 AM
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OK when I say not great, they are as good as liverpool and not too far off man utd standard going on results head to head etc, but maybe the standards are falling

Now I like Celtic but they are not as good as either Man U or Liverpool. Granted they could put it up to them over two games (as they did with Man U) but if they were to play both of them 10 times they would definitely lose more than they win.

come off it
over two legs against man u they put up a bette show than most EPL sides and a fair result would have been a draw in both games.
How can people continue to keep saying that celtic will never be able to compete with the top epl sides when each time Celtic play one in the past number of years, the results have been more in Celtics favour.
This with a tiny fraction of a budget that the epl sides have.
I know why you say this, but if you take a step back you must see this is pants - Sorry but that old line can hardly apply any more.

It used to be that Celtic (or any scots club) couldnt match up with an english top side - hardly draw let alone win.
Then when Celtic beat liverpool/blackburn/man u etc - it is now, they couldnt compete over the 38 games in an EPL season.
If and when Celtic ever get into the epl/british elite league etc - I am sure that the goalposts will eventually have moved to something like
'only when Celtic (or scots team) manage to do the quadruple' or' if Celtic can make it 10 league championships in a row....'

the english media have yez all touting the same lines.
Celtic are not brilliant - but they are not that bad, and the top sides in the epl are not that much better...imo
Chelsea and arsenal are the two sides I think are good (but look where they are so my opinion is rubbish there too)

I take your point, but dont really agree with it!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 09, 2007, 09:53:15 AM
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OK when I say not great, they are as good as liverpool and not too far off man utd standard going on results head to head etc, but maybe the standards are falling

Now I like Celtic but they are not as good as either Man U or Liverpool. Granted they could put it up to them over two games (as they did with Man U) but if they were to play both of them 10 times they would definitely lose more than they win.

How do you explain then that in Celtic's last 8 European meetings with EPL opposition (ManU twice, Liverpool four times, Blackburn twice) that Celtic have lost just once? And the one defeat might have been avoided if the ref hadn't given a dodgy pen at Old Trafford to let ManU into the game! Is this just a lucky streak?
The problem with comparing Celtic to EPL sides is that the EPL players get such an incredible amount of exposure that they achieve celebrity status quickly and people begin to believe that many of these players are actually better than they are. Celtic players don't get the same exposure and because they haven't the same celebrity status, people automatically assume they aren't as good as the premiership players. I'm always amazed when unknown foreigners (Liverpool signed them by the dozen a few years ago) come into the premiership and people suddenly start talking about hot properties and they are blown up to be something special very quickly when in reality they're anything but.
The really big difference between Celtic and the EPL clubs is the vast difference in TV revenue they receive, with EPL clubs now allowed to spend as they like on players, although the transfer prices then become so inflated that fans again think the players they've bought are way better than they are, not realising that their club has just paid miles over the odds for those players.
Celtic, unless they get into the EPL, will always have much less to spend on players but lately they have been spending it smartly, getting great value in most cases. God forbid, I would just hate it if Celtic were ever taken over by someone like Abramovich and could buy £30 million players whenever they felt like it.

PS Why has nobody given Celtic any credit or respect for beating teams like ManU, Liverpool, Juventus, Barcelona, Porto, Ajax, Benfica, Lyon, Valencia, Stuttgart, Celta Vigo, Blackburn, Bordeaux, Boavista, Rosenborg, Copenhagen, Anderlecht and many others in recent years, and drawing with teams like Milan (3 times), Villareal and Bayern Munich? Are Celtic lucky all the time? And what about the club's home record in Europe which is second to none? Have people not learned anything about Celtic from these results? In the case of Barcelona, last year's CL winners, Celtic have drawn with them twice in the Nou Camp as well as beating them at Celtic Park.
 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hobnob1 on March 09, 2007, 10:28:53 AM
Lads, Milan should have had a penalty too, when Naylon took down inzaghi and the ref gave a free kick on the edge of the box. That was  a clear penalty. Celtic would have been beaten 4 or 5 nil only for boruc, ye have to admit that. Lennon is shit, jes they need a new midfielder that can hold the ball and grind out posession, Lennon in my eyes was over rated always. Sno will be a great player yet, Vennegor is a top striker just give him a chance. Nakamura is also quite good. McGeady is awful weak, he needs to bulk up a bit. Telfer used to paly for southampton did he? if so it speaks for its self, from championship to cvhampions league, it dosent work
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 09, 2007, 11:33:31 AM
Lads, Milan should have had a penalty too, when Naylon took down inzaghi and the ref gave a free kick on the edge of the box. That was  a clear penalty. Celtic would have been beaten 4 or 5 nil only for boruc, ye have to admit that. Lennon is shit, jes they need a new midfielder that can hold the ball and grind out posession, Lennon in my eyes was over rated always. Sno will be a great player yet, Vennegor is a top striker just give him a chance. Nakamura is also quite good. McGeady is awful weak, he needs to bulk up a bit. Telfer used to paly for southampton did he? if so it speaks for its self, from championship to cvhampions league, it dosent work

Milan at least got a free kick for that foul by Naylor, plus many other dubious frees throughout the match! The ref sadly didn't have the courage to give Celtic either of the two penalties they deserved.
"Celtic would have been beaten 4 or 5 nil only for boruc" - that's like saying it would have been 0-0 only for Kaka!
As for your point on Telfer (who was only bought as back-up anyway and has played more than was intended because of injuries) are you saying that there isn't an player who once played in the Championship now playing for any of the top teams in the EPL? What a stupid point you made! All the top English players in the EPL have either come through their club's youth system or played for a smaller club before making the breakthrough/step up.
It pleases me greatly to see how impressive a player like Kevin Doyle has been in the EPL for Reading this season, a player who cost £78,000 and who learned his trade in the League of Ireland, then the Championship!
Lennon has been a brilliant servant to Celtic and, although he did a decent job on Wed night, his time is now up, as is Telfer's.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 09, 2007, 02:21:41 PM
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As for your review of each player I find a lot of them unbelievable. Naylor had an excellent game and is one hell of a buy at £600k. Telfer might not be a fans favourite but got the job done and calling McManus "bombscare" is crazy...did well and led a defence which held a clean sheet in the San Siro over the 90mins - bombscare?  Sno also did well and is another cracking bargain from Strachan. VoH wasnt match fit and playing as a lone striker...what were you expecting from him? Good shift in the circumstances. And was it not for Kenny Miller's outstanding showing against Benfica you would have been out of the competition long ago....plus his performances for Scotland against Italy and Germany have shown he can do it against the best defenders.

You need to be a bit more realistic.

I would suggest you pay for Setanta or make a few trips over to CP my friend.

Naylor is excellent VALUE, and a reasonable / good player in the SPL- however in Europe he gets is often skinned and relies on last ditch tackling (which always pleases the masses) to get him out of jail. His distribution is also generally poor. 7 times out of 10 he will punt the ball aimlessly upfield in any given match.

Kenny Miller is a joke. An international striker who has managed what 4, 5? goals for Celtic so far?

McManus is a big solid, uncomproising defender- nothing more. He is also prone to at least 1 or 2 scares per match and does not have the pace or brains to elevate himslef into a higher bracket. A squad player who has benefitted from the injury of others.

Telfer has been shocking all season. No pace, little skill.

Sno was rank in Milan. Gave one of the worst displays of p[assing in recent years. If it didnlt go backwards it ended up with a Milan player - and how often did he piss around on the ball so much that it was simply lifted off his toe?

Lets not confuse a'heroic' rearguard action against an average Mil;an side with us suddenly being world beaters.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 09, 2007, 02:34:31 PM
Its always a hard luck story with Celtic,  until they go out and buy players who are good enough to play in the champions league things will get no better. 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hobnob1 on March 09, 2007, 02:53:18 PM
Lennon has been a brilliant servant to Celtic and, although he did a decent job on Wed night, his time is now up, as is Telfer's.
Lennon has been a brilliant servant to Celtic and, although he did a decent job on Wed night, his time is now up, as is Telfer's.
Lennon has been a brilliant servant to Celtic and, although he did a decent job on Wed night, his time is now up, as is Telfer's.
Lennon has been a brilliant servant to Celtic and, although he did a decent job on Wed night, his time is now up, as is Telfer's.
Lennon has been a brilliant servant to Celtic and, although he did a decent job on Wed night, his time is now up, as is Telfer's.
Lennon has been a brilliant servant to Celtic and, although he did a decent job on Wed night, his time is now up, as is Telfer's.
Lennon has been a brilliant servant to Celtic and, although he did a decent job on Wed night, his time is now up, as is Telfer's.
Lennon has been a brilliant servant to Celtic and, although he did a decent job on Wed night, his time is now up, as is Telfer'

Exactly my point, Celtic only bought Telfer at the end of his career, he couldnt cut it in the premiership with southampton or in the championship last season yet celtic buy him and expext him to perform against AC Milan, not a hope in hell of winning anything of merit if they keep bringing in these worn out stags
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 09, 2007, 03:00:28 PM
Its always a hard luck story with Celtic,  until they go out and buy players who are good enough to play in the champions league things will get no better. 
I'd say they would be happy to get to the last 16 each year and within an asses roar of going through like they did the last night - better teams have dominated yet still not got through.
Celtics euro tactics are just like those of Red star when they had 11 men behind the ball refused to play any sort of football and held out for penalites, then stuck them all in the cornes, watched marseill miss a couple and become winners of the european cup.
Then you have milan playing liverpool off the park a couple of seasons ago and liverpool scored against the run of play, changed the game and we all know what happened after penalties.
 :)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 09, 2007, 03:08:01 PM
IF they want to suceed in europe they will have to get out of the SPL.  They are a big club in a small pond and the players that they need won't come.  Sno will fcuk of within 2 years and  nakamura prob won't stay much longer.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 09, 2007, 03:09:44 PM
IF they want to suceed in europe they will have to get out of the SPL.  They are a big club in a small pond and the players that they need won't come.  Sno will fcuk of within 2 years and  nakamura prob won't stay much longer.
Thats Dermot Desmonds holy grail. Hes working hard on a lot of epl chairmen!
There are plenty of decent players about and to be had to replace the likes of nakamura and sno - like JVOH who I had never heard of before and I now think he is superb..
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 09, 2007, 03:16:18 PM
yes decent is the word, celtic need world class players though.  Mcgeady might be a great player if he weighted more than 7 stone if he gets stronger he has a chance if not he will disappear.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 09, 2007, 03:20:24 PM
yes decent is the word, celtic need world class players though.  Mcgeady might be a great player if he weighted more than 7 stone if he gets stronger he has a chance if not he will disappear.

not necessarily,
Think TEAM is what you want first.
Madrid had a squad of percieved ' superstars' but were complete and utter rubbish...

a combo is required. A couple of stars in a good TEAM imo is what you need.

Chelase are as close as a good team of superstars are you are gonna get.
The rest of the last 8 in the CL I think are predominatly good decent players with a few outstanding individuals in each.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: cavan4ever on March 09, 2007, 03:32:26 PM
yah chelsea there lucky drogba(how d fuk u spell it) doesn't get to many injuries.  Well if celtic y get outta SPL they will have better chances of success in Europe thats 4 sure
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 09, 2007, 09:20:28 PM
Lets not confuse a'heroic' rearguard action against an average Mil;an side with us suddenly being world beaters.

I didnt use the word heroic or say Celtic were world beaters or anything near that. It was though a decent effort and a good solid European campaign when Celtic went further in the Champions League than they ever had before. To slate the team like you did shows a lack of understanding of Celtic's situation and their standing in the European game.

One mistake Strachan did make the other night was not getting Riordan on...a player who can pose the same threat down the left as McGeady but also pop up with a goal out of nothing. A player who has not been a proper chance to shine with Celtic so far.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 09, 2007, 09:28:11 PM
To pose a question here...

how would Celtic and possibly Rangers make it into the EPL, would they have to start in Div 2 and work up? cant see them being "Invited" into the prem over the teams form the championship, they wont increase the size as they are looking to decrease the numbers in the future. any ideas ???
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 10, 2007, 03:01:01 PM
Just to show what Celtic are up against, here's a list of annual TV revenues the major clubs receive that I found on another site. The top 3 clubs negotiate their own TV deals, with the EPL negotiating for all of its clubs (with higher placed teams getting the most). The EPL revenues are due to rise even more from next season.

Barcelona £81.4m
Real Madrid £77.54m
AC Milan £67.82m
Man Utd £30.65m
Chelsea £30.41m
Liverpool £28.83m
Arsenal £28.72m

As long as Celtic are in the SPL they cannot compete with these clubs, even though they are potentially as big a club as any one of them and potentially bigger than most.
The incredible thing is that Celtic made circa £18million profit in the last 6 months and only get about £2million a year in TV revenue. And nearly every year they make it into the top 20 clubs in the world for turnover, without any of the TV money the others get.
There is some talk of Celtic negotiating their own deal like the Barcelonas and Real Madrids do but I'm not sure if it can/will happen. Getting into the EPL is the dream for Celtic but that looks unlikely.
I find it pathetic how much criticism Celtic get after drawing home and away with Milan (who are suddenly seen as an average side as a result!) when you look at the difference in TV revenue between the 2 clubs.
Despite these drawbacks Celtic are building a good team at the moment and will have close on 20 million to spend this summer. Two or three quality additions will make a huge difference for next season's CL.


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 10, 2007, 03:10:53 PM
To pose a question here...

how would Celtic and possibly Rangers make it into the EPL, would they have to start in Div 2 and work up? cant see them being "Invited" into the prem over the teams form the championship, they wont increase the size as they are looking to decrease the numbers in the future. any ideas ???

It looks like a near impossible task for Celtic to get straight into the EPL. Because of the huge sums of TV money now available nobody is ever going to agree to let Celtic in.
One idea that I've heard talked about is buying up a struggling Championship club and eventually getting in that way through time.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on March 10, 2007, 11:52:15 PM
lads not sure why this is being discussed, as much as it is needed it is a non-issue, the english clubs dont want it and the sfa/spl wont allow it so there is no issue!

good young backbone to the team, need a quality striker and midfield player in the summer that could push us one step further in europe, the domestic scene seems tobe tied up for a few years unles we see hearts spending because quite frankly rangers dont have the cash and wont have a win tomorrow and next week against falkirk then we can look forward to the cup final and summer targets!

its happy times for the hoops and hopefully happier ahead!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 11, 2007, 12:06:07 AM
lads not sure why this is being discussed, as much as it is needed it is a non-issue, the english clubs dont want it and the sfa/spl wont allow it so there is no issue!

good young backbone to the team, need a quality striker and midfield player in the summer that could push us one step further in europe, the domestic scene seems tobe tied up for a few years unles we see hearts spending because quite frankly rangers dont have the cash and wont have a win tomorrow and next week against falkirk then we can look forward to the cup final and summer targets!

its happy times for the hoops and hopefully happier ahead!

Agree with everything. These are good times for Celtic and WILL get even better.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 11, 2007, 09:42:54 AM
lads not sure why this is being discussed, as much as it is needed it is a non-issue, the english clubs dont want it and the sfa/spl wont allow it so there is no issue!

good young backbone to the team, need a quality striker and midfield player in the summer that could push us one step further in europe, the domestic scene seems tobe tied up for a few years unles we see hearts spending because quite frankly rangers dont have the cash and wont have a win tomorrow and next week against falkirk then we can look forward to the cup final and summer targets!

its happy times for the hoops and hopefully happier ahead!

falling revenues in epl will make them again look to 'spice up' the epl and the obv and easy answer is invitng a few scots clubs in.
It may take a 'breakaway'  british league for this to happen, so epl wont have a say, neither will the chairmen or clubs not invited into such a breakaway league.

Celtic might have 20 million to spend, but they wil hardly spend it.
Strachan would be more comfortable with a 3 million budget than a 20 million one.
Martin oneill was actually very similar in this.
Both need to learn that aspect of management.
Strachan has done well, but even with money and better players, I am not so sure he could send them out to play like milan, barca or lyon
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on March 11, 2007, 01:12:28 PM
0-0 after 36.

Celtic fairly much in control.

McGeady running a plenty.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hairyhog on March 11, 2007, 01:35:16 PM
anyone wanting to watch the live stream can at

 http://www.myp2p.eu/Matches/Match7.htm

you will have to have tv ants downloaded first though

http://www.sendspace.com/file/vw4a14
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 11, 2007, 01:39:05 PM
IMHO PPmate is better, at least TVants is in English!!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hairyhog on March 11, 2007, 02:09:18 PM
Square Ball, can a live stream of setanta be found anyehere? would be useful for the SPL/GAA games
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Square Ball on March 11, 2007, 02:44:40 PM
cant find one for GAA, but myp2p cover a lot of SPL, there was even an EC league match on Friday night
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 12, 2007, 11:56:33 AM
rangers might not have deserved the win on the balance of play, but they defended well and spoiled celtic's game. Thats what Celtic tried to do in europe. OK rangers looked dreadful in the first half, but they gave 100% effort to make last ditch tackles and even put off the shooting celtic forwards/midfielders when the def was breached.
Celtics problem is that they cannot score- or find it difficult to score.
If you cant put more than one or two goals past the likes of dunfermiline, hearts, falkirk etc - how the heck are they gonna ever score against the decent euro sides.
It has been said that celtic are looking for another decent striker - JVOH is a very good centre forward, but kenny miller is a disaster -although he tries and works very hard- he just cannot shoot.
Beattie is also not good enough, and Zurawski lacks pace enough for europe - although is perfect for SPL/EPL.

Almost a good result for celtic - in not their fans- as it will let them see that its not all rosy and changes still need to be made.

 wasnt impressed by pressley and mcmanus. Rather biasedly I think young ODea is a far bette defensive prospect than the two of them.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 12, 2007, 12:22:19 PM
While the defeat means nothing in terms of this season's title the manner of Rangers win might be a bit worrying for Celtic. Coming to Celtic Park and surviving an onslaught before heading off with a narrow win was the hallmark of previous Walter Smith (and Ally McCoist) Rangers teams....what happened yesterday might well be a big confidence boost for them for next season.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 12, 2007, 12:56:24 PM
While the defeat means nothing in terms of this season's title the manner of Rangers win might be a bit worrying for Celtic. Coming to Celtic Park and surviving an onslaught before heading off with a narrow win was the hallmark of previous Walter Smith (and Ally McCoist) Rangers teams....what happened yesterday might well be a big confidence boost for them for next season.
the only part that would be worrying for Celtic is the notion of that in itself. PEople will hark back to when walter smiths teams used to routinely beat celtic
but most will also forget that in his last couple of seasons at ibrox, smith himself became victim to the same kind of results and performances - which signalled the end to his rangers managerial tenure...

that people will state that walter/rangers have an indian sign over celtic could get to the players/fans etc - but I think it would not get to the management. G Strachan is a looney and will take such losses very personally and will be looking for revenge - he always looks to buck the trend and this will just add fuel to his fire.
Rangers will take confidence from this result, but as they were so bad (and they were really bad yesterday as well) everything will improve for them.
They need some serious injection of players as if Celtic had anyone who could shoot - then it would have been a massacre.
It was the most dominant that I had seen Celtic in a derby game - in the first half, and it was obv their complacency, as they fell to pieces and couldnt even pass the ball when they conceeded that one to Ugo (who I must admit , thought had fouled mcmanus prior to scoring the goal out and it should have been a free kick to celtic rather than a goal). Still that will waken them up ...it would be bad if it didnt!
Bad for their chances in europe next year that is...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 12, 2007, 10:56:08 PM
For the first time ever after an Old Firm defeat, yesterday's result didn't bother me that much. On the law of averages they have to beat us sometime and better to let them have their day when the result means little or nothing. Their win also gives them false hope because in the first half yesterday Celtic were streets ahead (playing great stuff at times) and could have scored four or five.
What did annoy/frustrate me was the poor finishing by Celtic - and I think yesterday was the final straw as regards Miller. I wanted to look away every time he lined up a shot because I knew there was one place the ball wasn't going to end up! I'm confident we'll get a good partner for Jan (who's form is affected by injury right now) in the summer but if we'd got him by now we would have hammered Rangers yesteray and might even have beaten Milan on Wed.
Rangers fans will now believe they are going to be serious challengers next year when in truth the gap is still huge. If we'd got the penalty (we're not getting any of these decisions at the minute!) and Ugo had been blown up for a clear foul on McManus just before he scored, victory would have been ours.
But as I've said, it's better to let them win the games that are meaningless - I've got no long-term worries about Wally or Indian signs, that's for sure! The current Rangers team is probably as bad as I've seen and they don't have the money to make it much better next year.


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 13, 2007, 02:41:19 AM
Rangers fans will now believe they are going to be serious challengers next year when in truth the gap is still huge.

Dont think the gap is going to be as big as you think. Smith has already fashioned a team with a bit of spirit out of the shambles Le Guen left him and Murray will find him some cash for the summer too. If they get Scott Brown from Hibs their midfield for starters is going to be excellent. I could see things being fairly tight at the top next season.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ClosetotheHarte on March 13, 2007, 09:49:36 AM
Maybe huge is the wrong word but I'm confident there will still be a gap. That was clear in the first half on Sunday and after they scored what was a freakish goal after half time we just stopped playing, whether it was tiredness, knowledge that the league was won or whatever, I don't know. The energy of Hartley and Gravesen would have helped in that 2nd half. But funnily I was happy enough to let them win this one!
Scott Brown will definitely help them and they'll have a strong SPL midfield but they need more than him. In saying that, we need some players too and if we don't get a goal-scoring striker soon the gap could become smaller again. But the way I see it they're a couple of years away from catching us and if we keep strengthening they'll be further away. Gordon has always talked about his vision and he's still building something at Celtic Park so I expect to see more reinforcements in the summer to maintain the gap.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 13, 2007, 11:13:23 AM
Rangers fans will now believe they are going to be serious challengers next year when in truth the gap is still huge.

Dont think the gap is going to be as big as you think. Smith has already fashioned a team with a bit of spirit out of the shambles Le Guen left him and Murray will find him some cash for the summer too. If they get Scott Brown from Hibs their midfield for starters is going to be excellent. I could see things being fairly tight at the top next season.

Sadly for the SPL rangers have too many slots that require filling for them to be as close a competitor as you reckon they will be LDA.
The only way it will be close is if Strachan continues his crazed team selections and rotation policies.
Spirit and effort were not lacking by rangers on Sun - but truthfully , if Celtic had taken any of their chances, the one way traffic would have continued.
Celtics problem is their striking options, plus strachan picking two def central midfielders didnt help the teams attacking play - with rangers getting 10 men behind the ball in falkirk-esque strategy.
Hopefully hearts and Hibs will mount another decent challenge next season.
Although if Celtic are keying in on europe more next year, that might leave things a little more open for the others, as after every CL or international game - celtic seem VERY vulnerable

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 24, 2007, 10:56:02 AM
Congrats to WGS and the Hoops...!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 15, 2007, 11:13:53 AM
Written by Eddie Pearson               
Tuesday, 15 May 2007           
Welcome to Start the Week. Small ones are more juicy.
Four rumours in one this week and not a lot else. A good, in fact make that very good, source at the club has told us that at this moment we have £100,000 a week worth of contracts being considered by 4 players. While maths isn't our strong point we thought this works out at roughly £25,000 per player. When we put this to our source he said," Not exacty - some more some less" so potentially we're looking at perhaps three decent deals and one mega Gravesen wage packet for someone. After a bit of moaning and cajoling we got the following names out of him.

The first player currently considering joining us in the summer is Stephen Appiah. His agent has been in talks and despite concerns he's trying to hauk him round England (in much the same way Doumbe's agent is at the moment by the way) the club are confident that the package they have put to him will be accepted. We were in for him before he went to Turkey and apparently he was on the verge of joining us then. We've been told that he regrets not signing up then as he now sees us as a bigger club on the European stage. This deal is rumoured to include Magic heading the other way out of the club. Assuming he's willing to wake up long enough to walk out the door.

Next up is one thatis due to happen very very soon indeed. In fact it may already be done by the time you read this. We have been told to expect Scott Brown to sign tomorrow (Tuesday) morning for around £4-£5 million pounds. A source at Hibs on the playing staff tells us that it is an open secret at the club that Brown is away and he has already said his goodbyes. Talk of Rangers getting him are well wide of the mark as his price has went up by about £1 million since January mainly due to his excellent showing in the Scotland V Italy game the other month. If this does happen then the Radio Clyde phone in is a must listen as Derek Johnstone has been telling everyone this is a done deal for the huns since January. Just how high pitched will he get? Let's run a sweep.

[UPDATE: THIS IS IN THE RECORD TODAY - LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE REAL DEAL]
The third player looking over a deal to join up is James Beattie. We have been told by an English Premiership player who is Beattie's best mate (initials DD) that the forward has been offered around £25 - £30K a week to sign on for the bhoys. Beattie is very keen on the move due to his loyalty to WGS ("The best manager he's ever worked with according to him" is a direct quote from the player.) The only thing stalling the deal is that Beattie is clinging to the hope that he has a future with the England squad. Once he realises that's not going to happen he is expected to come North to win things and compete in the Champions' League. This is another deal that was more or less done in January but again Beattie held off

Our final member of this quartet is the player we mentioned last week - Scott Carson. With Boruc doing a wee wave to the crowd at the end of the match on Saturday that looked like he was off this story is growing arms and legs. Carson began his career with Cleator Moor Celtic and has always been a "fan" of the club. He is available for a bargain £1.7 million and once again it's the chance to win trophies and compete in the Champions' League that appears to be the real lure for this player.

This would appear to be a massive investment by the powers that be at the club and we understand that WGS wants them all in within the next couple of weeks as he intends to get the team gelled long before the qualifiers for the Champions' league. Hence his decision to take his hip operation now rather than once the season finishes. We are still hearing that Lovenkrands is looking at houses in East Renfrewshire so don't break out the bunting just yet.

Other odds and sods - there is a chance that Jefferies and Brown will be offered a move back to Hearts this summer. Expect a bidding war for Naismith between the Blue and Maroon if this happens. can the huns afford to miss out on yet another player

Speaking of the huns we have been told that Webster is now looking like he has no long term future at the club because they cannot afford the £1 million that Wigan will demand for him. What happened to that £10 million pot that Walter was given? Probably the same thing that happened to the one that PLG was given.

On a brighter note for the huns we hear that Stuart McCall will now be joining up with the back room staff in the summer. McCoist will become head coach and Smith will be given the "director of football" role.

Man City's Distin is on a free and is currently occupying the thoughts of our manager according to one scout we know.
Anyone fancy Christian Dailly as back up for a season? No? Us neither.
And here's our final defender rumour of the week - Marcel Seip of Plymouth Argyle is apparently on our radar.
And that's a wrap.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 15, 2007, 02:40:34 PM
Any particular reason why the thread subject title is called the official Glasgow Celtic thread?
Where else could Celtic FC be located?

 

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on May 15, 2007, 02:44:26 PM
Any particular reason why the thread subject title is called the official Glasgow Celtic thread?
Where else could Celtic FC be located?

 



Donegal, Newry, Cleary...............
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the colonel on May 15, 2007, 02:45:23 PM
stalybridge,
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Spiritof98 on May 15, 2007, 02:50:52 PM
Armagh - Promoted to Mid Ulster Div 1 this year!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 15, 2007, 12:43:14 PM
Could this be a possible way into the EPL for Celtic??

Or am I clutching at straws?

From Guardian Football………………………………

 

Too rubbish to go up? So bad you went down? Bored of living in a city without a football team? Fear not, for all you need in order to overcome your footballing frustrations these days is a large wad of cash. Stump up the millions and you too can buy a place in the sun. Better still, you can buy a place in La Liga.

Next season, Spain's Second Division will have eight new teams, one of whom will be Granada 74. Granada 74 are not one of the three teams relegated from the First Division, nor are they one of the four teams promoted from the four groups of the 72-team Second Division B. They did win promotion this summer, but that was from Regional Preferente to the 18-division regional Third Division and that's not why they're going to be in the Second Division next season. No, Granada 74 will be playing in the Second Division next season because they bought a place in the Second Division.

Well, strictly speaking they bought another club who just happened to be in the Second Division, but thanks to the new rules approved by the Spanish league (LFP) in the summer, the result has been exactly the same. Keen to encourage investment and to offer a solution to cash-strapped clubs beyond the normal cap-in-hand dash to the town council, the LFP authorised newly purchased clubs to move base and change name. And Ciudad de Murcia owner Enrique Pina, who set up the club in 1999 and grew sick of getting little institutional support and even less real support in a city where Real Murcia are the club with a genuine tradition, wasn't slow to take advantage.

For months now, Pina has been scouting round for potential buyers for his club, knowing that what he was really selling was their place in the Second Division (or even, it had briefly seemed, in the First Division, what with Ciudad de Murcia a single place off promotion). In his discussions with potential buyers, not once did anyone suggest taking on Ciudad de Murcia and nor did Pina demand it. He spoke to Real Oviedo, relegated to the Third Division, about buying their way back. He spoke to recently reformed yet historic Mérida about returning. And he spoke to Granada 74, a club ready to jump 300 teams with one wave of a chequebook.

It was Granada that won out, owner Carlos Marsá buying Pina out for a figure understood to be somewhere in the region of €20m. Pina will use that cash to bid for Cadiz, while Marsá immediately did exactly what everyone knew he would do: he changed the name, allowed those players who wanted to go to leave, effectively making those who remained the B team, and moved out of the city. Within a day, nothing was left of Ciudad de Murcia. Except their place in the Second Division.

Granada 74 have thus leapfrogged the city's other two clubs, Third Division Granada Atlético and Second Division B side Granada CF, straight into the Second Division. But this might not be as simple as they hoped. They will face much the same problems that Ciudad de Murcia did: no fan base and no support from the local council, who consider Granada CF the city's real club. As a result, they also will have no stadium, because the council will not allow them to share the municipal ground with the city's other two clubs, leaving Marsá looking for somewhere else to play - with Almuñecar and Guadix, 78 and 68 kilometres away respectively, the front-runners. The country's first footballing franchise is a reality, but where will it take its team? Where, more to the point, will it take Spanish football?

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on June 15, 2007, 01:07:26 PM
Could this be a possible way into the EPL for Celtic??

Or am I clutching at straws?



Clutching at straws GDA
Dream on
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 15, 2007, 01:18:51 PM
Could this be a possible way into the EPL for Celtic??

Or am I clutching at straws?



Clutching at straws GDA
Dream on


Well theres no harm in dreaming   ;D

Peter Lawwell Celtics Chief Executive will look into any way of getting the club into a more productive position/league, so never say never!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the colonel on June 15, 2007, 02:01:21 PM
peter lawwell has been one of the best signings at celtic for years! man is a legend, if there is a way to do it, the sharp suited man will find it
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 15, 2007, 02:23:18 PM
GD
thats what the yanks do in their sports - offer a big wad to club owners and they uproot to another city !

Still think its highly unlikely to happen though!

(it involves Celtic paying out money !)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 15, 2007, 03:30:22 PM
GD
thats what the yanks do in their sports - offer a big wad to club owners and they uproot to another city !

Still think its highly unlikely to happen though!

(it involves Celtic paying out money !)

Would have thought it was more like buying their place in the league.
Take a team with small support in their area, in the championship, who have a well supported EPL close neighbour, buy their place in the championship, close the club down, sell off whatever assets they have and Celtic spend a year in the Championship (poss win FA cup and league cup in that slow year) then promotion into the EPL. Obviously VERY hypothetical, before the slagging starts!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 27, 2007, 09:16:10 AM
Interview with him after the fight.

Second last paragraph is a good one.



The working class hero comes home by Trevor Newcombe

Ricky Hatton was greeted by an ecstatic throng of fantical fans as he arrived back this morning from his triumphant and rousing victory in Las Vegas. A tired and emotional Hatton declared himself to be 'drained' and 'extremely proud' of his dramatic victory against the legendary José Luis Castillo.

In the quiet and relative sanity of a Wythenshaw hotel, Ricky Hatton gave the Manchester Evening News his first exclusive interview since his victory in the United States.

Hatton was not surprised by the fact that he defeated the highly rated Mexican, but was astounded by the nature of his win.

"I got him with a shot to the liver, which is a punch you rarely see thrown nowadays. I had been watching old videos going back as far as the twenties and thirties even, What you notice is that in them days, the fighters could throw a whole range of punches the likes of which you don't see no more.
Guys like Kid Berg, Joe Louis etc. The 'bowler' punch is something that I had never seen before, yet if delivered properly it can be lethal".

As for the future, Hatton has a very clear schedule and is aware that with his stunning victory, he is now very much in the radar of the vast American viewing public.

"Pay-for-view is where it's at, and hopefully last week will have shown the Americans that I am worth watching. Financially it is a dream come true, and if things go the way I plan, then I could secure my long term future in the next few years".

Hatton reacted brusquely to suggestions that between fights he indulges too much in the finer things of life. He is notorious for loving a good fry up and the odd pint of bitter when not preparing for a fight.

"Look, I've never hidden my liking for nice grub but you saw me in Vegas, tell me who was fitter, Castillo or me? As far as I know they don't have fry ups or Boddingtons in Mexico! What you have to remember is that whenever I am asked to fight, I am in great shape".

Hatton then spoke about the relationship between himself and Wayne Rooney, a fact that astonished many observers given Hatton's frequently stated love for Manchester City.

"Wayne and me go back a long time, as he is from a family of boxers. I fought his cousin David who boxed for the Croxteth club and Wayne saw the fight, since then he has followed my career with great interest. He is a great lad and we don't have none of that stupid hatred that you get between certain clubs. Wayne could have actually been good at the boxing if he had chosen to go that way instead of football."

Hatton was touched by the level of support that he received in Las Vegas, among whom were Rio Ferdinand, Joe Cole and Wes Browne. Did he see any blurring between the sports of football and boxing?

"I have a lot of mates who are footballers, Robbie (Fowler) and Joey (Barton) took me up to watch Rangers as they are big fans, but to be honest I really didn't enjoy the atmosphere at all. It might seem strange coming from me ,but the atmosphere was aggressive without being hard if that makes sense. I really didn't understand them at all. I then went with Wayne and Roy a few years back to watch Celtic and it was magic. Their fans were passionate and supportive and gave us a great welcome without getting in our faces all the time. Celtic has a lot in common with City in that they are the people's team of their city and they haven't forgot their roots, a real working class team which does credit to the city they represent".
The same may be said of Ricky Hatton a man who has brought great distinction to his city without compromising his background or his working class values.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: scottish-dub on June 27, 2007, 02:57:13 PM
selik are a scottish team and should not play in the english league, they should remain in Scotland

Anyway why would they play in England- league fo Eire would be perfect for them  ::)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 27, 2007, 03:32:47 PM
selik are a scottish team and should not play in the english league, they should remain in Scotland

Anyway why would they play in England- league fo Eire would be perfect for them  ::)


What would be the point in going from one small pond to another small pond!!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: scottish-dub on June 27, 2007, 03:58:30 PM
my point exactly -no logic -Celtic were formed in 1888 north of the border in Glasgow -that is where they should stay 8)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 27, 2007, 04:41:06 PM
my point exactly -no logic -Celtic were formed in 1888 north of the border in Glasgow -that is where they should stay 8)


Your obviously not a Celtic fan!

Scotland = small pond
League of Ireland = small pond
EPL = much bigger pond with more money and better stage from which to attract the calibre of players we should have.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: scottish-dub on June 27, 2007, 04:51:37 PM
how would you attract the players "you should have" take a look at the moment no club with all the money at the moment can attract the players they want

Im not a celtic fan but I follow scottish football

last season they took milan to extra time in the knock out stages
Rangers went out to away goals in the knock out stages the season previous

progress is being made

bottom line -scotths clubs -stay in scotland
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 27, 2007, 04:54:15 PM
I think now is the right time for Dermot desmond to use his world famous powers of persuesion (brown envelopes) and talk to the english FA - after greasing their palms with cash - they can throw out Sheff utd, but also to calm down the argument, they can kick out west ham too...thereby leaving a 'spare' slot in the english prem league.

Celtic can take this and get the riches and also the calibre of players required to keep them at the top table of footballs eliite.

there will most likely never be another such opportunity !
 :)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: scottish-dub on June 27, 2007, 04:58:30 PM
I agree- dont think any of the remaining clubs in the championship, div 1,2, or 3 would mind seeing celtic go straight into the top tier- dont think rangers would object either ::)

perhaps instead of english teams being relegated to the champioship they have to play in the spl- after 6 years the spl will be a decent league

the championship have to get promoted to serie A  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 27, 2007, 04:58:45 PM
how would you attract the players "you should have" take a look at the moment no club with all the money at the moment can attract the players they want

Im not a celtic fan but I follow scottish football

last season they took milan to extra time in the knock out stages
Rangers went out to away goals in the knock out stages the season previous

progress is being made

bottom line -scotths clubs -stay in scotland

I can see your point
but there is no money for teams in the spl

progress is being made, and it will however come to a halt when the calibre of player at these clubs are just not good enough to out play the milans and barcelona's of the world

EPL money will rectify that.
Also by keeping a second string in the spl, Celtic will no longer be impossible to beat - promoting youth player set up at Celtic and a competitve spl. Crowds will love that.
Also as they can buy bigger name players, Celtic will no longer poach all the decent players from hibs, hearts etc. I can just see the spl becomming more competitive. SPL games on setanta last season were far more enjoyable to watch tham 90% of epl games I witnessed. Rangers will improve by default of having to stop buying costly overseas players.
It has to be good for scotland
where's LDA....
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 27, 2007, 05:01:21 PM
I agree- dont think any of the remaining clubs in the championship, div 1,2, or 3 would mind seeing celtic go straight into the top tier- dont think rangers would object either ::)

perhaps instead of english teams being relegated to the champioship they have to play in the spl- after 6 years the spl will be a decent league

the championship have to get promoted to serie A  ::) ::) ::) ::)
if Celtic were 'invited' and a single slot was open, whats to complain about.
Money conquers all  - If rangers were not invited, what grounds have they to 'appeal' - likewise the english clubs outwith the epl.

as for the rest of your post - I just dont understand it...sorry
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: scottish-dub on June 27, 2007, 05:06:00 PM
2nd part I was just talknig b0llix or more b0llix 8)

money talks -yes but teams in the championship such as birmingham, sunderland, wolves are richer than rangers and celtic so there money will talk louder
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 27, 2007, 05:09:46 PM
2nd part I was just talknig b0llix or more b0llix 8)

money talks -yes but teams in the championship such as birmingham, sunderland, wolves are richer than rangers and celtic so there money will talk louder

they may have rich benefactors
but they have not the same kind of allure as celtic or rangers have
and its the increasing of TV rights money which is why epl would ultimately want either or both scots clubs to join.

wolves dont have that euro pedigree or world wide fan base now or am I wrong there? :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: scottish-dub on June 27, 2007, 05:18:08 PM
no spot on on both accounts

however a team like wolves have english pedigree  -celtic and rangers dont as they are scottish 8)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on June 27, 2007, 09:42:38 PM
how would you attract the players "you should have" take a look at the moment no club with all the money at the moment can attract the players they want

Im not a celtic fan but I follow scottish football

last season they took milan to extra time in the knock out stages
Rangers went out to away goals in the knock out stages the season previous

progress is being made

bottom line -scotths clubs -stay in scotland

I can see your point
but there is no money for teams in the spl

progress is being made, and it will however come to a halt when the calibre of player at these clubs are just not good enough to out play the milans and barcelona's of the world

EPL money will rectify that.
Also by keeping a second string in the spl, Celtic will no longer be impossible to beat - promoting youth player set up at Celtic and a competitve spl. Crowds will love that.
Also as they can buy bigger name players, Celtic will no longer poach all the decent players from hibs, hearts etc. I can just see the spl becomming more competitive. SPL games on setanta last season were far more enjoyable to watch tham 90% of epl games I witnessed. Rangers will improve by default of having to stop buying costly overseas players.
It has to be good for scotland
where's LDA....


Here ;D

Its a complete non-starter. The biggest reason is that England doesnt need Celtic and Rangers, the Premiership is already filthy rich without them. Why would the big English clubs want to share cash with two Scottish teams. Plus despite OF fans having a go at the SPL it also provides them with an annual Champions League place, that wouldnt be the case down south. Be interesting also to see where the OF fans would go when their teams werent guarenteed a steady stream of trophies...notoriously fickle supporters.
Id be happy enough personally if they f*cked off to England and even better if they took their grounds and supporters south of the border too but it wont happen.

Celtic might well have missed a trick by not going for Aberdeen's Russel Anderson who today signed for Keane's Sunderland for £1m. Better centre half than McManus and Caldwell and a good buy at that price.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mannix on June 27, 2007, 10:19:27 PM
CELTIC,
imagine if they actually went and joined the epl, we would never hear the end of the whinging when the guaranteed competition from only one team was replaced by about 10 more ranger quality teams and then you would really get sick of it when then top end of the epl beat them in every othe game.SPL is the weakest excuse of all time for a league, honestly , who will challenge the big 2 inthe next 20 years? Gretna?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 28, 2007, 09:00:28 AM
LDA I don't think that you can call Celtic fans fickle, I have been supporting them for as long as I can remember (30+) and the years of Rangers dominance in the late 80's - 90's didn't diminish my support or any of the Celtic fans I knew support for the club. It made us more determined to succeed.

Fair enough the same cannot be said of the blue side of Glasgow.

As for the big boys in the EPL not wanting us, far from it, Celtic would be sitting in the top 6 of the EPL and the big teams would relish the challenge, anyway it's not them that make the discissions, its the moneymen behind the scenes, and having Celtic in the EPL would make the league even more attractive to TV and sponsers and increase the popularity of that league.


http://[color=green]Come on the Hoops![/color]
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: scottish-dub on June 28, 2007, 09:51:10 AM
how can it not be said about the "blue side of glasgow"

was that when Celtic had crowds of under 8000 turning up just before fergus mccann came along?

yes great supporters 8)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 28, 2007, 10:34:53 AM
Here ;D

Its a complete non-starter. The biggest reason is that England doesnt need Celtic and Rangers, the Premiership is already filthy rich without them. Why would the big English clubs want to share cash with two Scottish teams. Plus despite OF fans having a go at the SPL it also provides them with an annual Champions League place, that wouldnt be the case down south. Be interesting also to see where the OF fans would go when their teams werent guarenteed a steady stream of trophies...notoriously fickle supporters.
Id be happy enough personally if they f*cked off to England and even better if they took their grounds and supporters south of the border too but it wont happen.

Celtic might well have missed a trick by not going for Aberdeen's Russel Anderson who today signed for Keane's Sunderland for £1m. Better centre half than McManus and Caldwell and a good buy at that price.
It would have been a better chance of it two years ago when TV money was looking like it was going to go right down.
Think if rangers and celtic left the spl (even leaving reserve teams in their place) the league would flourish !

As for Anderson - I have been a big fan of his for a few years now. I didnt think he would ever leave aberdeen.Keane obv spotted this in his stint in the spl.
Dont rate Caldwell and to me McManus is an old style left back.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: scottish-dub on June 28, 2007, 10:56:00 AM
mcmanus is woeful - makes far too many mistakes- still has time to stop these errors -but at the moment -not good enough

as for pressley and balde - oh dear

that is where celtic need to strengthen ::)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on June 28, 2007, 12:17:02 PM
LDA I don't think that you can call Celtic fans fickle, I have been supporting them for as long as I can remember (30+) and the years of Rangers dominance in the late 80's - 90's didn't diminish my support or any of the Celtic fans I knew support for the club. It made us more determined to succeed.

I certainly wasnt questioning your commitment to the club GDA but the 60,000 every game at Parkhead is a pretty new phenomen (McCann years onwards), not long ago at all that crowds of less than 20,000 were common enough at Celtic Park. Would be interesting to see what kind of crowd a Celtic side in the middle of the Premiership playing against Bolton or Derby would attract to games.

Like I said Id be happy to see the back of the Old Firm but its not going to happen. I dont agree GDA that the Premiership would really want these clubs, the league is rich enough already. Would they want the baggage these clubs also still bring? Would also set a very dangerous precedent which could a lot of problems in leagues throughout Europe.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: An_dun_abu on July 03, 2007, 12:11:56 PM
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The fantastic Shebeen will once again perform at this years celticfest.

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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on July 04, 2007, 10:28:35 AM
Reid plays down Celtic link.

Former Home Secretary John Reid has denied he is about to be appointed chairman of Celtic.

Reports claimed the 60-year-old MP for Airdrie and Shotts had been offered the job and was "highly likely" to take it.

But a spokesman for Dr Reid, well known as a Celtic supporter, said: "Whatever the speculation, John Reid has made no final decision about any roles he may take up in future and won't be making any such decisions for some time."

The Daily Telegraph report suggested Dr Reid would replace Brian Quinn, the chairman since 2000.

According to the paper, his appointment was being promoted by the club's biggest shareholder, Dermot Desmond.

Another scalp for DD.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on July 05, 2007, 01:07:27 PM
Strachan hopes to make giant strides

DARRYL BROADFOOT, Chief Football Writer
 July 05 2007
 

The spring has returned to Gordon Strachan's step.

The Celtic manager has been relieved of his crutches, both literally and, in the case of Neil Lennon, metaphorically, and has resumed his training-ground duties with a renewed sense of purpose and ambition.

A hip-replacement operation near last season's end has been sufficiently successful to enable him to preside unencumbered over preparatory work at the team's idyllic headquarters in Spiez, Switzerland. Developments have been a daily occurrence since he departed like a limping Pied Piper after sharing Celtic's championship success with wide-eyed youngsters plucked randomly from the four corners of Celtic Park.


For a start, transfer business has been brisk: Scott Brown, Scott McDonald, Chris Killen and Massimo Donati have been recruited at varying levels of investment. Departures have been minimal: Neil Lennon leaving seven years of memories behind to join Nottingham Forest, and Craig Beattie's £1.25m transfer to West Bromwich Albion further testament to the remarkable housekeeping of the chief executive, Peter Lawwell, which the manager gratefully acknowledged. "I'm content now," said Strachan.

In the meantime, the vultures hovering over Shunsuke Nakamura have been kept out of harm's way. "It's not worth talking about. Thierry Henry put up with it for five years because he's a top player, too," the manager stressed.

There was also the one that apparently got away, Marceo Rigters, the Netherlands under-21 striker who elected to join Blackburn Rovers after the customary charade of speculation from three man-dated agents. "There was no hesitation; it was my decision," said Strachan.

He addressed all of the pertinent issues that have gathered since he departed for safari in South Africa, including the ongoing search for a captain to replace Lennon, yet conveyed the impression that the ethos and objectives will alter only marginally as he embarks on the third phase of his trophy-laden tenure.

"The basis of the football will still be the same," he said, having himself acknowledged that a second successive title was achieved with an inadequate volume of plunder and, latterly, an understandable lack of inspiration having romped ahead of their nearest rivals before their winning margin was cut to 13 points. "We are working on one or two wee new things from last season."

I think there are disadvantages in coming to Scotland but advantages in coming to Celtic – enough to drag people along
 
 
 

 
Finding an appropriate and deserving leader to replace Lennon is a task Strachan has undertaken with precision. "I haven't decided yet; there are three candidates I am thinking about in the squad," he said, while not ruling out the late acquisition of a ready-made on-field sergeant. The manager refused to reveal the identities of the three, but a simple process of elimination leaves little scope for debate.

Stephen McManus is the popular and obvious choice. Steven Pressley's experience merits his inclusion but, at 34, and having finished the season poorly, doubts have been cast over his prospects of featuring prominently next season amid competition from Gary Caldwell and the rehabilitated pairing of John Kennedy and Bobo Balde.

Artur Boruc is the dark horse, having pledged his future to Celtic, but might Nakamura be offered an extra incentive to remain? He is, after all, one of the most respected players among his peers, works harder than anyone according to the manager, and already sets a quiet example to the rest.

"We have to look at it carefully because the captain will have to back you up in the dressing room, trust your perception of how football should be played and how a dressing room should be run. Any captain will also get close to me," Strachan added.

"Roy Keane was here and would have been a good captain, but there are many qualities I require. I knew people at Coventry who would shout and scream in the dressing room and become silent as soon as they went on the pitch.

"There are things I see in and around the dressing room that you don't. We need common sense and leadership.

The relationship is up there with the one I would have with the chairman."

His relationship with the chief executive has been successful almost without precedent. Allan MacDonald, Ian McLeod and Jock Brown, the prototype as general manager to Wim Jansen, failed to a man, in some instances spectacularly so. None won the respect of their colleagues, far less the affection of the supporters. In this respect, Lawwell's feats are staggering and consistently so.

The relationship between Strachan and his perennially-harassed line manager has not always been rosy, but mutual respect has been fostered even in disagreement.

"It's good. Last year, I wanted a player and Peter said he was too expensive," said Strachan, with Jimmy-Floyd Hasselbaink's £40,000-a-week demands an obvious source of the mini conflict.

"I didn't agree, but he was proved right. It makes you think, Well played Peter', he stood by his decision. We are a team and Peter has allowed us to buy these players. The on-field success has also enabled us to finance signings more than we did a few years ago."

Lawwell is undoubtedly on a roll. Donati has joined from AC Milan for less than the £3m quoted, while Brown was snatched from under Rangers' noses, with Celtic prepared to up the bidding to more than £4m. Central to the amended tactical approach will be that dynamic central partnership.

"I was impressed by his all-round play," said Strachan, defying invitations to pigeon-hole Donati's attributes.

"John Park Celtic's football development manager had watched a lot of him and I watched videos on tv. He has a good eye for a forward pass, but has a lot of good stuff. He is a good player.

"We want him to be a midfield player, one that comprises everything. We have probably spent six months looking at him quietly, but we also do that about a lot of other players nobody knows about. I think there are disadvantages in coming to Scottish football, but there are advantages in coming to Celtic, like playing in the Champions League and in front of 60,000 supporters every other week. There is enough there to drag people along."

Dragging the punters along is the easy part as demand consistently outstrips supply. Satisfying their renowned tastes remains a source of aggravation on both sides. "Personally, we could have played better and that's why I am looking for more variation next season," Strachan said. "I want to keep our winning ways.

If we don't entertain, I want us to win.

"We won our treble last season. I think if people were asked whether they wanted the CIS Insurance Cup or get to the last 16 of the Champions League, they would prefer the last 16. What we have done is give them winning football. Entertainment? What is entertainment? We still scored enough goals last season to win the league by 13 points, after all.


Basle tonight on Setanta, not be long now til the season starts!  ;)


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on July 05, 2007, 01:18:33 PM
Its about time Celtic revisited Ireland for a few friendlies,It must be 5 or 6 years since their last visit.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: glens73 on July 05, 2007, 01:28:42 PM
I'm annoyed that on Setanta Sports 2 ( in the uk) they've put back the hurling qualifier between Clare and Galway to 9.00 instead of showing it live - all for a Celtic pre-season friendly that they could have shown as delayed later anyway.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on July 05, 2007, 01:29:58 PM
Its about time Celtic revisited Ireland for a few friendlies,It must be 5 or 6 years since their last visit.


Won't be over this Summer.

The Orcs are playing Distillery though Tony!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: stiffler on July 05, 2007, 10:22:28 PM
1 nil victory tonight, with Kenny Miller scoring the goal in the first half.

Alot, if not all, of the new signings got a game. Scot Brown stood out as a hard running attacking player with quality. Brown in nets was also steady, and pulled off one great save in particular. Should be a good back up to Boruc.

Anyone know what the story is with Delvecchio? is he still thinking about moving to celtic park or has he pulled the pin on a deal?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 14, 2007, 12:48:31 PM
Well shaky enough start to the season, but a decent result tomorrow against Spartak Moscow over there would steady things up.

Match on Setanta 2 tomorrow at 5pm.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on August 14, 2007, 12:54:16 PM
celtic have been terrible since march and need to buck up soon.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on August 14, 2007, 12:54:28 PM
Well shaky enough start to the season, but a decent result tomorrow against Spartak Moscow over there would steady things up.

Match on Setanta 2 tomorrow at 5pm.
I take it that setanta 2 is not the one we get free in Dublin...?

Celtic really poor up front at the start of the season

have to question the club going over to USA for pre-season games
they always come back kackered and take a few games to get going in the league

this was the reason for the artmedia bratislava and fc basel debacles

youd think they would have learned by now

I am still waiting on Ally McCoist to carry out his promise to jump into the stands and drag out any rangers fan singing sectarian songs...
Ovb wee ally didnt have his hearing aid on for two of the games so far this year  :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on August 14, 2007, 01:44:12 PM
Team 3 for WGS and what has changed from the last 1/4 of season 2006-7?

We have a new MF pairing which shows promise...............and not much else.

Up front we can now select from a panel of journeymen (and I include JVoH in that) and have little to no clue in defence.

the first 2 games of the seaosn have shown once again that Strachan has no clue tactically and the crap that populated the forward line is inexcusable

Anyone who actually sat and watched the weekend Falkirk game would see that the 4-1 scoreline was certianly not indicative of the game. For 70-80 odd min Falkirk were the better team and were it not for an OG might have jeld on for the win. Sheer fitness alone won this game, nothing else.

It was also worrying just how far off the pace our back line were - being bullied by 2nd rate neverweres and has-beens
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2007, 05:38:25 PM
Good start for Celtic on Moscow's plastic pitch. 1-0 up after 25
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2007, 05:46:54 PM
1-1 42mins
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: inisceithleann on August 15, 2007, 05:48:15 PM
terrible marking. celtic were riding their luck for a long time. naylor should never have been booked though a few mins earlier. clear dive.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2007, 05:49:36 PM
Surprised at the ref. Clearly intimidated by the occasion and him an experienced bloke.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: stiffler on August 15, 2007, 06:36:52 PM
15mins to go, still 1 all. Celts are beginning to tire
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on August 15, 2007, 06:55:30 PM
Good result
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 15, 2007, 07:19:34 PM
Good result for Celtic. Thought Brown was going to seal the win right at the death when McGeady put him though. Ball seemed to get stuck under his feet with the plastic pitch.

That said Spartak missed a few chances too.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: seanf on August 15, 2007, 08:10:44 PM
Good result this evening, however we were showed up in defence yet again!

Naylor playing chit & Kennedy and McManus will never make a partnership in the centre!

Bobo is still the best centre we have at the club!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on August 16, 2007, 08:15:17 AM
kennedy surprised me as I never thought he was too hot before he got inj. McManus not a natural centre half (more a LB imo) but mcM will do the job as he is a tough nut and a bit of a leader.
O'Dea is prob the best natural cb in the club right now. Hear bobo was dire in recent challenge games, might not be 100% after his inj run, and the man relies on his pure athleticism.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on August 16, 2007, 09:23:56 AM
good result for celtic but serious problems remain in defence. none of the central defenders will attack a high ball coming into the box. the falkirk and spartak goals seemed very similar.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on August 16, 2007, 10:08:02 AM
good result for celtic but serious problems remain in defence. none of the central defenders will attack a high ball coming into the box. the falkirk and spartak goals seemed very similar.
I would say their attacking of high ball is actually quite good
the problem with the spartak goal (and problems in previous seasons) is that the centre halves marking and positioning is v poor
thought the full backs were badly exposed yesterday

spartak will be very dangerous on grass, but I think Celtic park is a smaller pitch , which will suit Celtic.
would not write off the russians !
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on August 16, 2007, 01:11:09 PM
A great result and one which, barring a disaster should guarantee us some great nights at Parkhead this autumn/winter (the Man Ure game last year was absolutely brilliant, the stadium was literally shaking as the teams left the field and the Fratelli's music playing) ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 16, 2007, 01:29:43 PM
I'll wait til after the second leg Tony (on BBC one Scotland) til I get too excited. Do feel that we have done enough to progress though.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on August 19, 2007, 04:09:28 PM
another poor 1st half performance today against aberdeen. need to get this sorted asap. also how many times did naylor give the ball away? on a positive note miller looks to be a better threat than last year - his 2nd goal was a great finish.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 19, 2007, 10:52:21 PM
another poor 1st half performance today against aberdeen. need to get this sorted asap. also how many times did naylor give the ball away? on a positive note miller looks to be a better threat than last year - his 2nd goal was a great finish.


Agreed poor performance first half but much better in the second. Miller had a great impact, but the bhoys at that stage had loads of chances, he looks like a great "impact" sub, still wouldn't play him from the start.
Was disappointed with McGeady, he seemed to be losing the ball too easily when tackled, also Van needs to start producing the goals again.
Do think that the Dons early goal took the wind out of the bhoys sails for a while added to the European night on Wed, I think they can be excused for the first half display.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Aristotle Flynn on August 20, 2007, 09:27:38 AM
Shite.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 20, 2007, 09:31:42 AM
Shite.


Take you long to think up that response?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Aristotle Flynn on August 20, 2007, 09:33:23 AM
More soccer shite.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on August 20, 2007, 09:34:13 AM
unless Celtic address their style of play that is rubbish wing play and poor wide midfielders they are fecked. They cant continue to try to always go up the middle.
Full backs rubbish and I wouldnt think much of caldwell (well I didnt even when I saw him playing for hibs).
I'd like to think for kenny millers sake that this is the start of him playing well, but I doubt it.
Donati the best man on the field of play by some considerable distance.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 20, 2007, 09:36:00 AM
More soccer shite.


Don't read it then you muppet.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 20, 2007, 09:38:44 AM
unless Celtic address their style of play that is rubbish wing play and poor wide midfielders they are fecked. They cant continue to try to always go up the middle.
Full backs rubbish and I wouldnt think much of caldwell (well I didnt even when I saw him playing for hibs).
I'd like to think for kenny millers sake that this is the start of him playing well, but I doubt it.
Donati the best man on the field of play by some considerable distance.



I think that Scott Brown and Skippy McDonald have looked good since they came, agree we need the defense strengthened.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on August 20, 2007, 09:41:01 AM
Sectarian b**tards.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on August 20, 2007, 03:02:23 PM
Sectarian b**tards.

who ?
GDA and me ?  :o
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 29, 2007, 10:35:11 AM
Celtic v Spartak Moscow (1-1) 
 
Paul Hartley headed Celtic into the lead in Moscow


Champions League: Third round qualifier, second leg
Date: Wednesday, 29 August
Kick off: 1945 BST
Venue: Celtic Park, Glasgow
Watch: BBC ONE Scotland
Listen: BBC Radio Scotland 810MW
Updates: BBC Sport website and mobile


Celtic striker Kenny Miller will definitely miss the Champions League return leg against Spartak Moscow with a hamstring injury.

Gordon Strachan has no other injury concerns ahead of the game at Celtic Park - with goalkeeper Artur Boruc expected to replace Mark Brown.

Spartak striker Roman Pavlyuchenko was hit by a bug ahead of Saturday's 3-1 defeat by Rubin Kazan.

The Russian league leaders deny claims that most of their squad was affected.



Interview: Celtic manager Gordon Strachan



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Celtic (from): Boruc, Wilson, Caldwell, McManus, Naylor, Nakamura, Scott Brown, Donati, McGeady, Riordan, Vennegoor of Hesselink, Killen, McDonald, Zurawski, Mark Brown, Hartley, Sno, O'Dea, Kennedy.

 
If he plays Boruc then that should put to bed the rumours of his imminent departure to Arsenal - would be cup tied.

Hail hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on August 29, 2007, 11:55:20 AM
Celtic hitting scoring form , but they are still a bit lacklustre on the wings, with full backs not up to it defensively imo. Centre half pairing not too hot and this frail defense could be the undoing of them tonight.
Still expect a 0-0 or Celtic 1-0 win.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on August 29, 2007, 12:14:50 PM
Why the fcuk are RTE showing Arsenal and Sparta Prague tonight instead on Celtic???? >:(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 29, 2007, 12:52:01 PM
Celtic hitting scoring form , but they are still a bit lacklustre on the wings, with full backs not up to it defensively imo. Centre half pairing not too hot and this frail defense could be the undoing of them tonight.
Still expect a 0-0 or Celtic 1-0 win.


My main worry is the lack of goals from our "proper" strikers, also the fact that we could get caught on the break because Donati and Brown's love of going forward. Boruc back in the sticks should stabilize the backs.
Still optimistic about our chances at fortress Parkhead.

Celtic 2 S.Moscow 0
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: naka on August 29, 2007, 12:59:51 PM
if anyone has sky its on bbc scotland, this is around the 941 mark
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on August 29, 2007, 01:03:11 PM
Why the fcuk are RTE showing Arsenal and Sparta Prague tonight instead on Celtic???? >:(
well the precedent is that english prem teams are shown before RTE cover Celtic games (same for tv3 too)

Is BBc scotland the only channel this is been shown on?

It was shown on setantas sports2 last time , and i was kind of hoping it was tonight also , so I could see it...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 29, 2007, 01:17:59 PM
Why the fcuk are RTE showing Arsenal and Sparta Prague tonight instead on Celtic???? >:(
well the precedent is that english prem teams are shown before RTE cover Celtic games (same for tv3 too)

Is BBc scotland the only channel this is been shown on?

It was shown on setantas sports2 last time , and i was kind of hoping it was tonight also , so I could see it...


Setanta showed the Huns last night.
Where are you?
There are other satellite channels showing it.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on August 29, 2007, 10:48:43 PM
Great game at Celtic Park tonight, Celtic showed great spirit to make it through although really there wasnt much at all between the sides. Shocking old refereeing performance, that was never a penalty for Spartak in the 1st half nor indeed should it have been a red card for the Spartak defender near the end. Hard to complain after such a game though, superb entertainment.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on August 29, 2007, 11:02:15 PM
I don't know if it was a red card but it was a lovely dink by JVOH and would have been through on goal, though that didn't seem to pose much danger on the night.
Very good win for the Celts, nervy for fans I guess but the team looked so confident at the penalty shootout ya knew they were going to go on til Spartak cracked.
I was impressed with McGeady, Nakamura looks some player.
Looks like they need some goal poacher, somebody to feed of JVOH and who can turn McGeady's work into goals. What happened to Zurawski - only coming on so late in the game, I thought that was his role?

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 30, 2007, 09:13:55 AM
I don't know if it was a red card but it was a lovely dink by JVOH and would have been through on goal, though that didn't seem to pose much danger on the night.
Very good win for the Celts, nervy for fans I guess but the team looked so confident at the penalty shootout ya knew they were going to go on til Spartak cracked.
I was impressed with McGeady, Nakamura looks some player.
Looks like they need some goal poacher, somebody to feed of JVOH and who can turn McGeady's work into goals. What happened to Zurawski - only coming on so late in the game, I thought that was his role?




Fantastic win for the Bhoys.
Zurawski is going through a goal drought akin to a Saharan summer, your right about a poacher, JVOH seems to be playing further and further back with every game, hopefully Scott (Skippy) McDonald will fill the role of poacher.
Though Naylor had a tough game, but Wilson and McManus had very good games, Naka was outstanding (even given his hat-trick of misses in the second half), McGeady was very good, as was Donati, Brown seemed to be very quiet (probably because the Moscow mid-fielders had a good game) and Artur Boruc was fantastic.
Caldwell showed some balls taking the first penalty.

Looking forward to 5pm and the draw.



Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the milkman on August 30, 2007, 09:20:36 AM
Tight game last night, but the main thing is were are in the draw, would love Millar too have been there last night lack real pace up front. mc Donald is lively but not quick! hope there is a signing or 2 B4 Friday but cant see it! Naylor has had a tough start to the season but he wont face any1 quicker again (ever)

Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on August 30, 2007, 11:01:59 AM
And they gave us James Mc Crory and Paul Mc Stay...! Brilliant result, though I thought when Nakamura missed the penalty it wasn't going to happen. Imagine if the Govan Gobshites were in the Champions League and we weren't!

Roll on another big Parkhead night or two before Christmas ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Chrisowc on August 30, 2007, 11:05:03 AM
And they gave us James Mc Crory and Paul Mc Stay...! Brilliant result, though I thought when Nakamura missed the penalty it wasn't going to happen. Imagine if the Govan Gobshites were in the Champions League and we weren't!

Roll on another big Parkhead night or two before Christmas ;D

Imagine if Arsenal were in the Champions League and Totteringham......oops.  Bit of relief for you Tone with Celtic winning that shoot-out.  Imagine supporting 2 teams in the same competition ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 30, 2007, 11:43:34 AM
Europe's finest ready for draw

The seedings for the 2007/08 UEFA Champions League group stage have been announced with the draw to be made at 18.00CET today at the Grimaldi Forum in Monaco.


Monaco setting

Wednesday's 12 victorious sides from the third qualifying round and Tuesday's three winners take their place alongside the 16 automatic entrants in the draw for the eight UEFA Champions League groups. Making their debut at this stage are SK Slavia Praha, having knocked out AFC Ajax on Wednesday evening. Also in the draw are Sevilla FC and AEK Athens FC, who play the second leg of their tie next Monday after a postponement due to the death of Antonio Puerta on Tuesday.
Fixture schedule
The UEFA Champions League group stage will be played on 18/19 September, 2/3 October, 23/24 October, 6/7 November, 27/28 November and 11/12 December, though AC Milan's last game will be on 4 December due to their participation in the FIFA Club World Cup. The winners and runners-up from each pool will progress to the first knockout round in the spring, with the final set for Moscow on 21 May. Teams finishing third in each section will have the consolation of going into the UEFA Cup Round of 32.


Pairings

Where two clubs from the same association have qualified, they are paired to split their matches between Tuesday and Wednesday. In the case of associations with three representatives, only two sides have been paired in terms of their fixtures; in the case of associations with four representatives, two pairings are made. Sevilla and AEK have been paired with two different teams to provide for the eventuality of either side winning.


2007/08 UEFA Champions League

Group stage draw - 17.00gmt, Thursday

POT 1

Team                                Pairing      
AC Milan (ITA, holders)     A      
FC Barcelona (ESP)                   B      
Liverpool FC (ENG)                   C      
FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)   A      
Arsenal FC (ENG)                   D      
Real Madrid CF (ESP)                   B      
Chelsea FC (ENG)                   D      
Manchester United FC (ENG)   C      


POT 2

Team                                           Pairing      
Valencia CF (ESP)                              E      
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)              F      
FC Porto (POR)         
Sevilla FC (ESP) / AEK Athens FC (GRE)    E/M      
PSV Eindhoven (NED)         
AS Roma (ITA)                              G      
SL Benfica (POR)                              H      
Werder Bremen (GER)                               I      


POT 3

Team                                 Pairing      
Celtic FC (SCO)                    J      
FC Schalke 04 (GER)         
VfB Stuttgart (GER)                    I      
FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU)         
PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS)         
Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR)    H      
S.S. Lazio (ITA)                    G      
Olympique de Marseille (FRA)    F      


POT 4

Team                           Pairing      
Rangers FC (SCO)              J      
FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR)      K      
Beşiktaş JK (TUR)              L      
Olympiacos CFP (GRE)              M      
FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)              K      
Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)              L      
SK Slavia Praha (CZE)         
Rosenborg BK (NOR)         


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on August 30, 2007, 12:13:24 PM
How come Benfica are in Pot 2 and Celtic in Pot 3 when the Celts qualified for the last 16 last year ahead of them? :-\
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tintin25 on August 30, 2007, 12:41:18 PM
How come Benfica are in Pot 2 and Celtic in Pot 3 when the Celts qualified for the last 16 last year ahead of them? :-\

Think it's to do with your previous record in the competiton within the last few years...in that case then Benfica would merit being in a higher pool than Celtic.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 31, 2007, 01:25:18 AM
AC Milan, Benfica and Shaktar Donesak christ we've been here before, not going to be easy!!  :-\
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on August 31, 2007, 11:11:23 AM
I fancy us to qualify. The draw is hardly any worse than last year, though Man Ure were easier to beat at home than Milan will be, and again it will be down to the away performances and a dramatic improvement therein. 10 points should be sufficient.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on September 03, 2007, 10:59:06 PM
Not a great draw for the fans as we've played all these sides in the past few years, but I think Celtic have enough to finish 2nd again.  Anyone going to any of the away European ties?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 15, 2007, 04:01:12 PM
Half time Celtic 2-0 up Van the man and Donati the scorers.

Top of the league ma, top of the league.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on September 15, 2007, 04:44:37 PM
There is no competition, Rangers are just a neccessary evil to be humbled on the way to another title.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 16, 2007, 07:06:46 PM
Half time Celtic 2-0 up Van the man and Donati the scorers.

Top of the league ma, top of the league.

Wow theres a surprise Celtic are top of the Scottish League and Rangers second....What a competitive league that is ::)


Thats right, ones a league where one of two teams can win the league, whereas the EPL is a great league where one of four teams could win it!! Yawn.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on September 16, 2007, 07:59:16 PM
Half time Celtic 2-0 up Van the man and Donati the scorers.

Top of the league ma, top of the league.

Wow theres a surprise Celtic are top of the Scottish League and Rangers second....What a competitive league that is ::)

in a every league in europe its the same teams year in year out at the top of their leagues - hence the boring draw this year in the champons league. what the f**k do you want?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 18, 2007, 01:52:26 PM
The CL proper starts tonight here we go again for another year and more attempts to win an away leg!
13 matches, 1 draw and 12 defeats away from home, not good stats, hopefully we can change that tonight, no injury worries for WGS, and Shaktar arre missing their captain. But it will be hard going against a team who are top of their league and have spent £40 million on players over the Summer!!
Scott McDonald partnering Jan the Man up front, hopefully the recent league goal fests will be repeated in Europe.



Hail Hail
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 18, 2007, 02:14:16 PM
I'd take a draw, although we should be looking to win this... Is it only on feckin Sky tonight???
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on September 18, 2007, 02:32:46 PM
I'd take a draw, although we should be looking to win this... Is it only on feckin Sky tonight???
hear its on sky sports 2

with Celtics poor away CL record, a point wouldnt be a bad result against a team that has won 8 out of 9 league games at the start of this ukranian season
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 18, 2007, 02:51:59 PM
Agreed, a draw would be a good result away, but this is the one away game I really think we have a chance of taking the points, hope WGS doesn't set the team out with a draw in mind.




Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on September 18, 2007, 08:38:20 PM
celtic took an almighty battering in the 1st half.  should be 4 or 5 down. shaktar's millions have been well spent - they look a decent side.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on September 18, 2007, 09:39:05 PM
2-0 to shaktar. celtic once again poor on the road - you cant expect to get results at this level if you constantly give away possession.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on September 19, 2007, 09:55:21 AM
2-0 to shaktar. celtic once again poor on the road - you cant expect to get results at this level if you constantly give away possession.
yep
that 'home grown' yellow pack defence is not good enough for the CL - it might be ok for the spl and even against epl sides, but not against the cream of europe !
Mistakes like that just show why centre halves need to be natural centre halves not converted full backs - as McManus last night and jamie carragher of liverpool frequently demonstrate
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: supersarsfields on September 19, 2007, 10:24:27 AM
Jeez Lynch I think that's a bit harsh on Jamie Carragher considering he'd be in the top three if not two central defenders in the EPL.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on September 19, 2007, 10:41:34 AM
Jeez Lynch I think that's a bit harsh on Jamie Carragher considering he'd be in the top three if not two central defenders in the EPL.
its harsh, but look at the amount of mistakes he makes against eg arsenal
he tries to play too much football for a centrehalf. You dont get caught out too often, but when you do, its 75% sure you will concede a goal. In the event of any doubt, its Row Z.
McManus is also a full back converted to centre half and while he has adopted the 'when in doubt, put it out' strategy in the last 6 months or so, he is still prone to make the odd mistake as does carragher, that results mostly in a goal. Natural centre halves like lawerenson, hanson, john terry etc dont .
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: supersarsfields on September 19, 2007, 10:51:49 AM
Naw Lynch I'll have to disagree with that. Personally I think Carragher is a typical no nonsense CH. If anything I would say that Agger is the one who trys to play more football. Carragher will be the one to put the last ditch tackle or block in just at the right time. If Carragher was making that many mistakes he wouldn't be in there or part of one of the tighest defences the last couple of years. I know personally I'd have Carragher in my team every day of the week. I see him and Terry as the top two CH's in the EPL. I'll accept others rate Rio higher, but personally I dont.
But to get back on topic again, I wasn't overly hopeful about Celtic last nite. I just don't think they have a cutting edge up front that can do the business in Europe. In the SPL it's ok as they'll create more chances and would hope to put a few away but in europe you could be restricted to a small handful of chances in a game and you need to be clinical enough to take them.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 19, 2007, 11:08:18 AM
Naw Lynch I'll have to disagree with that. Personally I think Carragher is a typical no nonsense CH. If anything I would say that Agger is the one who trys to play more football. Carragher will be the one to put the last ditch tackle or block in just at the right time. If Carragher was making that many mistakes he wouldn't be in there or part of one of the tighest defences the last couple of years. I know personally I'd have Carragher in my team every day of the week. I see him and Terry as the top two CH's in the EPL. I'll accept others rate Rio higher, but personally I dont.
But to get back on topic again, I wasn't overly hopeful about Celtic last nite. I just don't think they have a cutting edge up front that can do the business in Europe. In the SPL it's ok as they'll create more chances and would hope to put a few away but in europe you could be restricted to a small handful of chances in a game and you need to be clinical enough to take them.


Would agree with you there ss, we looked sterile in attack, and the mid-field couldn't hold the ball, passing was very poor as well.
We were very disappointing last night, I personally believe that we can play much better, but let's not take anything away from Shakter, they look the business and I think that they will defo take points off both the other teams in this group.
Why in the name of God can Naka not last a full game on the road in Europe??

All is not lost though, 5 more games, we need 10 points to safely qualify, but need to improve by 200%.



HAIL HAIL
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on September 19, 2007, 11:14:46 AM
Naw Lynch I'll have to disagree with that. Personally I think Carragher is a typical no nonsense CH. If anything I would say that Agger is the one who trys to play more football. Carragher will be the one to put the last ditch tackle or block in just at the right time. If Carragher was making that many mistakes he wouldn't be in there or part of one of the tighest defences the last couple of years. I know personally I'd have Carragher in my team every day of the week. I see him and Terry as the top two CH's in the EPL. I'll accept others rate Rio higher, but personally I dont.
But to get back on topic again, I wasn't overly hopeful about Celtic last nite. I just don't think they have a cutting edge up front that can do the business in Europe. In the SPL it's ok as they'll create more chances and would hope to put a few away but in europe you could be restricted to a small handful of chances in a game and you need to be clinical enough to take them.
Would agree with you there ss, we looked sterile in attack, and the mid-field couldn't hold the ball, passing was very poor as well.
We were very disappointing last night, I personally believe that we can play much better, but let's not take anything away from Shakter, they look the business and I think that they will defo take points off both the other teams in this group.
Why in the name of God can Naka not last a full game on the road in Europe??

All is not lost though, 5 more games, we need 10 points to safely qualify, but need to improve by 200%.

HAIL HAIL
we will agree to disagree SS - although I would accept most would not side with my opinion there! JC is at the better nd of the scale than rio, and agger is somewhere in between.
None of them are fit to lace the great Lawro's boots though !
as said, back to topic - Celtic's prob is that they sent out a 12million team to go toe to toe with a 60million team.
Strachan is guilty of staying loyaly to his current team (never change a winning team) which is admirable, but remembering artmedia bratislava, I hoped GS would also think if this and play a more cautious 352 or 451 rather than go 442 and try to slog it out away to a team that is top of their league.
Tactically naive again from wee ginger. He has also been found out for not buying two decent full backs and a decent Reiper-esque centre half.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on September 19, 2007, 12:55:53 PM
McManus is also a full back converted to centre half and while he has adopted the 'when in doubt, put it out' strategy in the last 6 months or so, he is still prone to make the odd mistake as does carragher, that results mostly in a goal. Natural centre halves like lawerenson, hanson, john terry etc dont .

Ive never seen McManus as a full back to be honest lynchbhoy (he's always been a centre half anyway as far as I know) and as things stand he is the best defender at Parkhead, quite incredible the progress the boy has made over the last 2 years. His performance in Paris last week was outstanding.

Celtic made a shocking start last night which you just cant do at this level. Lee Naylor looks a pale shadow of the guy who was so impressive for Celtic last season and has been poor so far this term, maybe he's not the bargain everyone thought he was. Was also surprised to see Killen on the park last night, he'll do a job in some SPL games but isnt a CL player.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on September 19, 2007, 01:21:56 PM
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I thought the game was running away from us at one point. I came with two strikers, which might have been naive, but I thought we could have got a win.
WGS on bbc website

Genius.................................

Once again the same old failings came out to play last night however several points remain to be answered:

 

1.    Why has our defence not been addressed over the summer- despite clear evidence it is not up to the job? Caldwell and Naylor in particular are liabilities and McManus needs a steady hand to guide him through matches – he can’t be relied upon to marshal the defence, he is a follower not a leader and has the positional sense of a drunk crab.

2.    What’s that skippy?? Some kids have started a football match and you’re playing up front? His namesake would be more productive, and prolific. £700,000odd bargains come once in a lifetime. 99 times out of 100 they play like £700,000 suggests. And he’s out first choice to partner JVoH

3.    Let’s not buy into this beaten by a 40mill team either. The chances created home, and in particular away, by teams in the SPL against Celtic are frightening. It’s down to pure good fortune that the OF have snapped up any decent  SPL level strikers thus preventing most other SPL teams from capitalising on the numerous chances we give them. It’s no big surprise that SD nailed us.

4.    Naka – rightly subbed, at long last (WGS I finally applaud a decision). Again a passenger away from home. If only Special Teams were allowed a la NFL.

5.    Tactics – sexy football???? Where? Lump it up to the big man and hope. Again.

6.    The big man……… one of the laziest front men I have ever seen. The movement from Hartson in his final season was positively hyperactive in comparison. Keeps his place ‘cos no-one else is there to challenge. And how does he consistently get outjumped by smaller defenders?????

7.    Options……… chasing a game what do we have?????? A lumbering free transfer from Hibs and………………………

8.    McGeady, mercurial certainly but looking less and less like fulfilling all that potential.(When exactly does “potential” finally stop being an excuse for poor play?)


The sad thing is that we have money to spend. I can’t believe that not one decent player couldn’t have been persuaded to come to the SPL.

Much like Ireland once we go behind to decent opposition almost all hope flickers out. That’s inexcusable for a team with such history and dreams as we have
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on September 19, 2007, 01:39:38 PM
Lucarelli had Bhoys option
Shakhtar striker held talks with Celtic
By Mark Buckingham   Last updated: 19th September 2007

 
Lucarelli: Celtic talks

Cristiano Lucarelli claims he had the opportunity to join Celtic at the end of last season.


The Italian striker left Livorno for Shakhtar Donetsk over the summer in a big-money transfer which surprised many in his homeland.

Celtic were rumoured to be among the clubs interested in Lucarelli and he showed the Scottish giants what they missed out on in Tuesday's UEFA Champions League tie.

Lucarelli scored a fine header in Shakhtar's 2-0 win and he confirmed he had held talks with The Bhoys.

"In May I spoke to the director of sport for Celtic for playing in Glasgow, but it was no," Lucarelli told Sky Sports News.

And when asked if he could have moved to Parkhead, Lucarelli replied: "Yes."


No regrets

The 31-year-old admits he does not regret choosing to move to Ukraine as he was eager to play Champions League football.

He added: "I don't regret leaving Serie A. I moved to Shakhtar to play Champions League football.

"To do that regularly in Italy you need to play for Milan, Internazionale or Juventus.

"Players from other clubs need to leave the country to do so, like (Massimo) Donati at Celtic."
Title: one team in europe
Post by: wesaysanchez on September 20, 2007, 09:50:20 AM
can you hrear me billy vconnolly, rod stewatrt , gerrry  adsma neil leenon, tony fearon, micghael from the fields of antherny, pope bendict can you hear me?  youre bhoys took a hell of abeating so they did. jan venegor of heselink, evnader snow, gordon starchan gerry adams (can you hear me gerry sadam), oyu're boys tookm a hell of a beating. John reid, martin mcguiness john hume, the cardianl ( id ont' no his name), mark sdebottom, jreome quinee, logie logan, derek desmonf, martin oneill, malky mackay, all fenians can you here me for i ahve this to say so i do.  Your bohy took a heel of a beating.

By the way, how did Rangers do klast night. I ca'nt get the result anywhere so I can't.

Foolw, foolw.

www.loveultser.com
Title: Re: one team in europe
Post by: the Deel Rover on September 20, 2007, 09:56:09 AM
what a t**ser
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tintin25 on September 20, 2007, 10:13:49 AM
What a sad little person
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on September 20, 2007, 11:26:25 AM
Could u not just have deleted it???  ::)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the milkman on September 20, 2007, 06:10:15 PM
How can dicks that that get on this site!

Team is good enough for SPL this year but cant see us gettin out of the group!

I think we should play 5 in the middle away from home, with sno and hartley sitting, donati just in front! them mc geady and brown out wide, cause naka cleary doesnt want to know away from home!

Would love to a really top class centre back bought to paly with mc manus, and new left back, think wilson will do well in the long run at rb.! up front is pish poor, larsson sutton & hartson v JVOH magic Ronald MC Donald no contest really!

Need some money spend in Jan. but think it will be to late for champs. league by them (hope im wrong)

 HAIL HAIL
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on September 24, 2007, 01:39:03 PM
Boruc must have had money on a home win yesterday, that was one terrible performance he turned in :o

Wasnt too impressed by the banners the Celtic fans had yesterday, just looked a bit arrogant and smug as far as I could see. Not a great reflection on them either that they cant spell their clubs name ;D

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 24, 2007, 01:58:12 PM
Boruc must have had money on a home win yesterday, that was one terrible performance he turned in :o

Wasnt too impressed by the banners the Celtic fans had yesterday, just looked a bit arrogant and smug as far as I could see. Not a great reflection on them either that they cant spell their clubs name ;D




Just seen that picture for the first time, pretty disappointing, Celtic were poor yesterday, good to see McGeady get his first goal in a while, Boruc did cost us the game, but how many has he saved for us in the past, will allow him a bad one this time. Can see this season being more of a seesaw between the OF, still think Celtic can win the SPL this year, more worried how we will fair in the next couple of CL matches.

Ah well back to porridge with an away trip to Dundee in the CIS cup on Wed night, live on BBC1 Scotland.


Hail hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on September 24, 2007, 04:26:58 PM
Thought Hartley did OK yesterday in the holding role even though I'd be one of his biggest critics, WGS will probably deploy him there in Europe from now on although I dont like the way that means Brown will maybe be shunted off to the wing again where he cant really influence things.  Naylor was poor again, he has really went to shit this season he just wants to hoof it every time and his crosses are awful
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the milkman on September 26, 2007, 10:20:06 PM
Sneaky win tonight, the ref and linesmen were shit though! dundee utd then milan, tough games coming up! hopefully naka will be back soon!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 26, 2007, 11:03:56 PM
Sadly, looking like Naka may miss the AC match!

Yeah tonights match was ok, Celtic could have been a hell of a lot more convincing, but Dundee did play out of their skins, credit where its due.

Skippys goal was good as was Jans finish, and Sno was unlucky just at the end, but Riordans penalty was dreadful.
Felt Boruc was impeded for their goal, but the defense should have cleared the punch anyway.

Draw for the Quarter Finals is tomorrow.

Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 28, 2007, 09:23:41 AM
CIS Insurance Cup - fourth round draw:

Aberdeen v Inverness CT
Dundee Utd v Hamilton Academical
Celtic v Hearts
Motherwell v Rangers

Ties at Pittodrie, Tannadice and Fir Park to be played on 30 October. Celtic v Hearts on 31 October


Not an easy draw for us, the match is live on BBC1 Scotland on Wed 31st October.



Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 04, 2007, 09:59:46 AM
Anybody stopped smiling yet??    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 04, 2007, 12:18:58 PM
great win
Strachan got it right

with that fast youthful dynamic midfield, a 451 formation was more like a 433
Donati, Brown, McDonald, Hartley all superb, with McGeaty obv worrying milan and they hacked him down where possible. Even Jarosik played with more passion and aggression than before.

a far cry from recent seasons where the players were just too slow against all opposition

the fan fecked things up though.
Celtic will be lucky to get away with just a fine. A deduction of points or playing home games behind closed doors is possible- though hardly fair given what actually happened.

Superb result. Great week (two weeks) for scotland and scots football. Maybe the spl is better than some think ... :o
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on October 04, 2007, 01:25:45 PM
the only fault i have is at the end of the game all the Celtic players ran to the Milan players looking their shirts, "f**k that" they shouldn't be doing that shit it shows that they are in awe of them guys. Let the Milan players come looking our shirts and you'll see not to many will come accross. Other than that great win and hopefully we can get a result in Portugal
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 04, 2007, 01:41:12 PM
the only fault i have is at the end of the game all the Celtic players ran to the Milan players looking their shirts, "f**k that" they shouldn't be doing that shit it shows that they are in awe of them guys. Let the Milan players come looking our shirts and you'll see not to many will come accross. Other than that great win and hopefully we can get a result in Portugal


Granted it may have made the lads look like they were in awe, but the fact is they are a very young team and probably were in awe, remember the team only had a total of 60 (i think) European caps betwenn them - and Jiri had 38 of them himself!  :o

The pressure is really going to be on us now in Portugal, but if we can get a result (1 or 3) out there then I believe we stand a fantastic chance of qualifying for the knockout stages for the second time. Still only a dream I know, but this man loves to dream!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on October 04, 2007, 02:53:05 PM
Great result beating European Champions was made all the sweeter by their constant play-acting, reminiscent of Porto in Seville. 

Hartley was excellent in the holding role he's taken to it like a duck to water recently, Donati was also very good and the two centre-halves didn't put a foot wrong.  Boruc unfortunately looked very dodgy again.  Anyone else at the game?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on October 04, 2007, 03:14:50 PM
Denmark are having to play games away from copenhagen (200 miles or something), but not behind closed doors after that fan ran onto the pitch and at the referee.

Celtic for croke park anyone???

Dunno what that guy with the "no foreign games in croke park" and the celtic shirt on would do ???
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on October 04, 2007, 04:42:48 PM
the fan fecked things up though.
Celtic will be lucky to get away with just a fine. A deduction of points or playing home games behind closed doors is possible- though hardly fair given what actually happened.

Superb result. Great week (two weeks) for scotland and scots football. Maybe the spl is better than some think ... :o

Pretty incredible with Scotland beating France away to add to the win against them at home and now Rangers humping Lyon away and Celtic beating the European champions at Parkhead. Number of excellent young Scottish players involved in all these games too so quite hopeful for the future. Would like to think Aberdeen could continue it tonight but hard not to feel they will come to regret all the missed chances from the first leg.

I see the idiot who came on the park has handed himself in and been banned from Celtic games for life and will appear in court tomorrow, hopefully Celtic wont suffer too heavily for what this clown did.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Mentalman on October 04, 2007, 04:47:32 PM
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Celtic have moved swiftly to impose a lifetime ban on the supporter who struck AC Milan goalkeeper Dida at the end of their Champions League win at Parkhead last night.

The controversial incident following Scott McDonald’s last-minute winner has overshadowed the 2-1 victory over the reigning European champions and Celtic are now likely to face a UEFA probe.

In the mayhem that followed the late winner a fan ran on the pitch and clipped the Brazilian who, after initially giving chase, collapsed theatrically to the ground.

After a delay, he was taken off on a stretcher with an icepack held to his face.

A 27-year-old man today approached the club and was interviewed by staff before going to London Road police station.

Police said the man is being held for an alleged breach of the peace and is expected to appear at Glasgow Sheriff Court tomorrow.

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Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell told the club’s website, www.celticfc.net: “Clearly, Celtic take this issue extremely seriously and it is satisfying that this individual has been identified so swiftly.

“The individual in question has now been banned for life from attending Celtic matches, both home and away.”

UEFA will decide what action to take after receiving reports from referee Markus Merk and match delegate Andreas Akkelides.

Spokesman William Gaillard told Sky Sports News: “One of our prosecutors will look at the document and decide whether to open an investigation.

“If he opens an investigation, it will be a week or two before the disciplinary body deals with the case.

“I don’t want to presume anything. There is a whole range of possible punishments but of course there are precedents for the same kind of incidents.”

Celtic chairman Brian Quinn urged UEFA to investigate the “antics” of Dida but he also condemned the supporter who ran onto the pitch.


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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on October 04, 2007, 08:37:39 PM
Would like to think Aberdeen could continue it tonight but hard not to feel they will come to regret all the missed chances from the first leg.

They didnt, what a week for the Scottish teams in Europe.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: magickingdom on October 04, 2007, 09:45:34 PM
fair play to celtic and to rangers with those results. pity rte dont have the champions league this year as i'd love to hear dumphys crap now about how celtic and rangers wouldnt survive in the premiership..
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Over the Bar on October 04, 2007, 10:29:39 PM
Might anyone have the game on DVD?   

I've plenty of other stuff to do a swap  with.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on October 04, 2007, 10:35:43 PM
fair play to celtic and to rangers with those results. pity rte dont have the champions league this year as i'd love to hear dumphys crap now about how celtic and rangers wouldnt survive in the premiership..
The match was on RTE and fortunatly we didn't have to listen to Dunphy.
Though there was one reference to him by Brady 'usually it's Eamonn who gets all the predictions wrong'
Giles appreciated that Celtic couldn't string 3 passes together but will always pay tribute when he sees evidence of his immortal line 'moral courage' :)
Great win by the Celts but I think that they just have a good chance of finishing 3rd. Shaktar winning in Portugal puts them in the pole position now and Milan when arsed can still play football.


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 05, 2007, 08:56:22 AM
A few people I know are talking about us finishing third, but I believe that we can get results in our two home games and with a bit of luck away grab a point or two (that losing streak has to end sometime) we could finish second.
Remember Shakter have to play AC in their next two matches and AC have just had a massive wake up call.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tintin25 on October 05, 2007, 09:19:38 AM
A few people I know are talking about us finishing third, but I believe that we can get results in our two home games and with a bit of luck away grab a point or two (that losing streak has to end sometime) we could finish second.
Remember Shakter have to play AC in their next two matches and AC have just had a massive wake up call.

I think you guys have to be realistic. Yes, it was a good result but I seriousley can't see Celtic finishing 2nd. The match itself was very poor and it was more guts/determination that got them over the line rather than skill/ability and the performance as a whole. I think Celtic and Rangers ae in for a reality check in the coming games. I would really like to see both of them progress but as I say I can't see it.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 05, 2007, 09:24:06 AM
I am very realistic and know that it will be a big ask to qualify, but I also know that Celtics record at home in the CL is exemplary, we have more then a chance against both Shakter and Benfica at home, but we still need to record points away from home, and that could be the key to qualification this year.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: balladmaker on October 05, 2007, 09:25:32 AM
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I see the idiot who came on the park has handed himself in and been banned from Celtic games for life and will appear in court tomorrow, hopefully Celtic wont suffer too heavily for what this clown did.

What can they realistically do on this fella from a law perspective.  Is it actually illegal in the eyes of the law to invade a pitch?  Or will he be done for 'petting' Dida's neck?  Personally I can't see much of a case against him.  There are alot of other things in Glasgow which should be taking up the court's time and not trivialities such as this.

Also, how do Celtic actually impose the lifetime ban in practical terms.  I know he can never be a season ticket holder or apply for tickets via normal channels, but how effectively can they keep him out of Parkhead?  Always wondered how they could implement a lifetime ban with 60,000+ at each game.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on October 05, 2007, 09:52:08 AM
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I see the idiot who came on the park has handed himself in and been banned from Celtic games for life and will appear in court tomorrow, hopefully Celtic wont suffer too heavily for what this clown did.

What can they realistically do on this fella from a law perspective.  Is it actually illegal in the eyes of the law to invade a pitch?  Or will he be done for 'petting' Dida's neck?  Personally I can't see much of a case against him.  There are alot of other things in Glasgow which should be taking up the court's time and not trivialities such as this.

He's appearing in court on a breach of the peace charge, they'll have no bother doing him for that. There are indeed many things in Glasgow that are more worthy of a courts time but similarly you cant have fans running onto soccer fields, this guy will get done done as an example to others and he cant have any complaints about it.

As for banning him from Celtic games yes that will be almost impossible to enforce. Again though the fact he has been banned may be a deterent to others who think about going on the pitch.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: balladmaker on October 05, 2007, 10:00:04 AM
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He's appearing in court on a breach of the peace charge, they'll have no bother doing him for that. There are indeed many things in Glasgow that are more worthy of a courts time but similarly you cant have fans running onto soccer fields, this guy will get done done as an example to others and he cant have any complaints about it.

As for banning him from Celtic games yes that will be almost impossible to enforce. Again though the fact he has been banned may be a deterent to others who think about going on the pitch.

I'm not backing him for a minute, but just curious as to what they can do him for.  As for a breach of the peace, that's all they can fall back on.  No doubt he'll be done big time.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 05, 2007, 10:14:03 AM
A few people I know are talking about us finishing third, but I believe that we can get results in our two home games and with a bit of luck away grab a point or two (that losing streak has to end sometime) we could finish second.
Remember Shakter have to play AC in their next two matches and AC have just had a massive wake up call.

I think you guys have to be realistic. Yes, it was a good result but I seriousley can't see Celtic finishing 2nd. The match itself was very poor and it was more guts/determination that got them over the line rather than skill/ability and the performance as a whole. I think Celtic and Rangers ae in for a reality check in the coming games. I would really like to see both of them progress but as I say I can't see it.
thought the game itself - even before the goals - was intriguing and quite good to watch. I certainly recall thinking that and expected a 0-0 draw as a result when midway through the first half.
As the game was played in a monsoon, it was not great for passing, but both teams to their credit played some good passing football, and tried to do so rather than lump it up front. Surprisingly Celtic made some great moves up the pitch only for the pass to go astray in the area around the penalty box.

as for getting through to last 16, well if they play like that and that old milan team do likewise, then it could be the end of milan that most people were predicting for last season.
Too many passengers on that team Wed night. I presume they must have some players out inj?

shakthar prove that buying £40 millions worth of players can work.
Imagine if Celtic got into the EPL  - or had access to similar funds as the top epl sides !
Defo top 6 finish in the first season (with an advance of cash to increase the existing squad).
that Celtic team are largely young. The starting midfields oldest men were Hartley 31 and Jarosik 30. The rest and mcdonald all under 25.Centre halves too.

Dunphy softened his attitude towards Celtic, there was only so many times over the years he could be scathing  and wrong. So he turned over a new leaf and was in full praise of the Celts in the last year at least. Not the first time in his career that he did a full U turn on opinion. He used to be anti nationalist/republican until he saw the hypocricy and crap of the establishment, unionist/loyalist politicos and john major in 1994 I think it was. Was a changed man ever after that. A similar damascus happend him over Celtic it seems.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 07, 2007, 05:29:28 PM
I hope that all those who got carried away with the Milan result watched the shambles of a performance today away to Gretna.................

1.Enough is enough - surely we have another LB at the club. Naylor has zero football ability, 1 cross in 10 makes it into the box. Today was his nadir (in a long list of bad games this and last year)

2. Where is the sexy football WGS promised - once again we lump it up the wings to the big man

3. Naka - hello? Where are you? Did you miss the bus? Did you take Massimo with you?

4. Artur - funny once, not so funny now............learn to position a wall.

60min in and we don't have a shot on target.

To my mind Celtic are woefully short of class. Plenty of grit / spirit / dig in - whatever ye want to call it - class, no fraid not.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on October 07, 2007, 10:24:35 PM
I hope that all those who got carried away with the Milan result watched the shambles of a performance today away to Gretna.................

To my mind Celtic are woefully short of class. Plenty of grit / spirit / dig in - whatever ye want to call it - class, no fraid not.

Your team beat the European champions, how can celebrating and enjoying that constitite getting "carried away" ??? And whilst they may have been poor today they emerged with the win, are top of the league and on top of that have a 3 point cushion over their main rivals (I know Hibs are 2nd and doing great but ultimately if they finish 3rd theyre doing well). I think you need to cut the Celtic team and WGS a bit of a slack.

More importantly Scotland's top team in hoops are on a four match unbeaten run and up to 3rd ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 16, 2007, 02:04:29 PM
12.30 Saturday 20th October - Setanta sports 1      rangers v Celtic

the countdown has started!  8)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 20, 2007, 12:32:28 AM
Going to be a tight match, no right back and half our players out!! The Hun are looking quite light-weight themselves! no recovery time from the Internationals!!

Heart says Celtic 2-0, head says dull game and draw!

Fcuk the head - Come on the Celts.


Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: seanf on October 20, 2007, 09:53:24 AM
Brown Starts!

Come on the Hoops!

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on October 20, 2007, 10:30:57 AM
Stromg rumours that Darren O'Dea will start for the Celts
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on October 20, 2007, 03:50:17 PM
Why on earth did O'Dea start right back with Caldwell in the centre, given that O'Dea is left footed and has never played there before. 

Very poor perfomance all round apart from Skippy and Jarosik doing alright in 1st half.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on October 21, 2007, 07:39:30 PM
Very poor perfomance all round apart from Skippy and Jarosik doing alright in 1st half.

Celtic were poor and especially so at the back, WGS should surely be looking at getting some cover in there because McManus is the only really decent defender he has at the minute. Boruc let himself and Celtic down again at the end with his behaviour, they need to have a word with this guy. Not something Im particularly happy about but Rangers are going to challenge all the way for the title as I said they would, it will be real battle this season.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on October 21, 2007, 08:25:44 PM
the huns have done well against celtic since smith and 'super ally' took over as they absolutely hate celtic and this rubs off on their players wheares WGS doesnt have the same hatred. celtic were a disgrace - just laid down and rolled over.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: doofus on October 21, 2007, 10:35:13 PM
The better team won on the day, but i still think celtic will win the league over the course of the season. WGS's record against Rangers could not be near as good as O'Neills. anyone got stats on this?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 22, 2007, 09:46:03 AM
Very poor perfomance all round apart from Skippy and Jarosik doing alright in 1st half.

Celtic were poor and especially so at the back, WGS should surely be looking at getting some cover in there because McManus is the only really decent defender he has at the minute. Boruc let himself and Celtic down again at the end with his behaviour, they need to have a word with this guy. Not something Im particularly happy about but Rangers are going to challenge all the way for the title as I said they would, it will be real battle this season.

all Celtic need to do is get two full backs , and then once they stop leaking goals (and having to chase the game) they can set about winning - and have to learn to take their chances - the goals to shots ratio is poor !
thought Celtic looked like th eteam more likely to win - even at 1-0 down, but as they had to chase the game, rangers only had to sit back and counter attack.
I think the SPL is the new sire A !
The team that concedes first will lose!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 22, 2007, 11:57:55 AM
Very poor result on Saturday - but have to move on and concentrate on Wed nights match.

Good to hear that McManus, Jan the man and Hartley all travelling to Lisbon - also going are Pressley and Bobo!! Bet you thought that you'd heard the last of him!

3 points essential in Lisbon but it will be an incredibly tough match.

Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on October 22, 2007, 01:46:53 PM
3 points essential in Lisbon but it will be an incredibly tough match.

Jaysus, I'd take ur hand off for a draw, what with injuries, etc.

Referring was unbelievable at the weekend, 9 yellows to 2, wasn't even consistent. Defending was abmisable for the 3 goals and if u can't put the ball in the net from in front of the goals don't deserve anything out of the game...

On a more positive note, off to Parkhead for the Motherwell game next weekend. Years since I've been over, does anyone remember what buses go out the London Road/Gallogate??? Also what time would one need to be there to see the coaches come up the drive??? Match is at 3...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 23, 2007, 12:07:22 PM
Boruc defiant over Rangers snub
 


Artur Boruc (right) refused to shake the hand of Rangers' David Weir
 
Celtic goalkeeper Artur Boruc has no regrets about his refusal to shake hands with Rangers players - because he does not like them or their club.

Boruc was criticised in some quarters for his actions after Rangers' 3-0 victory in Saturday's SPL meeting.

But he told Polish newspaper Gazeta Wyborcza: "They were provoking me throughout the game. They were teasing me and they were trying to hurt me.

"I don't have to love anyone. I don't like this club, or these players."

It is not the first time that Boruc has courted controversy in an Old Firm derby.

The Poland international was cautioned by police for gesticulating at Rangers fans during a Celtic victory in February 2006.


 If we meet in town like normal people, I might shake hands




Celtic goalkeeper Artur Boruc
 
Police also expressed concerns in May this year after Boruc waved a flag at Ibrox proclaiming Celtic as champions after a win by Rangers.

And his latest actions led to criticism from Rangers players and the likes of former Celtic midfielder and BBC football pundit Murdo McLeod.

Boruc suggested that his latest decision was provoked by a pain in his hands and admitted that his emotions and adrenaline had been running high after a painful defeat.

But he stressed that he thought it ridiculous that he was expected to shake hands with the opposition.


 
"I didn't shake hands with them because it is not my duty," he said.

"We are enemies. We are fighting for the title and any form of friendship is out of the question."

However, Boruc did suggest that there might come a time when he could shake hands with his city rivals.

"If we meet in town like normal people, I might shake hands, but not at Ibrox after a game like that," he said.


 
Police had stressed that the 2006 caution of Boruc was for a "combination of behaviour" and not, as some had claimed, for blessing himself in a football fixture so often marred by religious rivalry.

But Boruc said of the latest incident: "They like to make scandals out of nothing.

"They complained to the police about certain gestures when we were winning.

"But they didn't call this time. Why? Because they won."




Class Artur!   :D ;D :D

 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 24, 2007, 11:22:25 AM
Match on live on Setanta Ireland or Sky Sports Xtra for us poor sods in the wee six.

McManus did light training yesterday, doesn't look like Pressley will make it, Bobo looking likely to get at least a place on the bench! Van's good to go and Hartley looks like getting a run as well.
Going to be tight, Benfica on a run of three straight CL defeats (poss backlash?) all of the Celts games in Europe have ended 3-0 (afaik)! Hopefully we can stay solid for the first half an hour defensively and not concede 2 goals and I think we would be in with a shout!
Need to break the away win hoodoo, and I hope tonight is the time to do it.

Celtic to win 3 -1
COME ON THE HOOPS
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Smiler An Dun on October 24, 2007, 11:41:27 AM
Croí na hÉireann

Where are you staying??
you can get a bus from Glasgow cross area (end of High Street/Argyle Street) that brings you along the London Road and probably Gallowgate.  I'm not sure of bus numbers but i know some of them are marked Carntyne.

Another way is the get the underground from Glasgow Central (Lower Station) to Dalmarnock.  Only takes 5 mins and is then less than a 10 min walk to the ground.

The team normally arrives at about 12.00/12.30.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on October 24, 2007, 12:14:12 PM
Croí na hÉireann

Where are you staying??
you can get a bus from Glasgow cross area (end of High Street/Argyle Street) that brings you along the London Road and probably Gallowgate.  I'm not sure of bus numbers but i know some of them are marked Carntyne.

Another way is the get the underground from Glasgow Central (Lower Station) to Dalmarnock.  Only takes 5 mins and is then less than a 10 min walk to the ground.

The team normally arrives at about 12.00/12.30.

Staying in the Radisson, thanks for that. From what I remember the buses along the London Road don't go through the Gallowgate. Will head out early to see the team come in, hell of a time to wait for the match though, what do they be doing for 3 hours anyway??? Recommend any bars nearby to wet the whistle? Been to Bairds and The Hoops bar before but don't fancy the walk to/fro...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on October 24, 2007, 01:25:17 PM
Croí na hÉireann

Where are you staying??
you can get a bus from Glasgow cross area (end of High Street/Argyle Street) that brings you along the London Road and probably Gallowgate.  I'm not sure of bus numbers but i know some of them are marked Carntyne.

Another way is the get the underground from Glasgow Central (Lower Station) to Dalmarnock.  Only takes 5 mins and is then less than a 10 min walk to the ground.

The team normally arrives at about 12.00/12.30.


Staying in the Radisson, thanks for that. From what I remember the buses along the London Road don't go through the Gallowgate. Will head out early to see the team come in, hell of a time to wait for the match though, what do they be doing for 3 hours anyway??? Recommend any bars nearby to wet the whistle? Been to Bairds and The Hoops bar before but don't fancy the walk to/fro...


A black cab only costs about £5 from city centre so i would advise that but you won't get one after the match they simply don't drive thru there till about 7:00 and it's not a nice place to be running around when everyone else has fucked off.

The Braisen Head is a good bar owned by an Italian Scottish bloke who is sound as a pound. He is very friendly with Neil Lennon's father, i was with them in the team hotel in Milan a few years back. It's only a 5 min walk from the ground.



Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on October 24, 2007, 01:31:26 PM
Have to admit that Walter Smith taking back Rangers does worry me...he is a top class manager and can always seem to get the best out of his players no matter what level they are at.  Bottom line on Saturday was that Rangers where more up for the game, where far hungrier than Celtic as they never pulled out of a 50/50 challenge whereas Celtic didn't seem to want to know.  We had no midfield steel like Barry Ferguson (hateful looking tr**p)..dare i say this is the game where we missed Neil Lennon bulling around the middle of the park??

As for Artur Boruc........absolute legend....you gotta love that man  :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 24, 2007, 01:45:21 PM
Have to admit that Walter Smith taking back Rangers does worry me...he is a top class manager and can always seem to get the best out of his players no matter what level they are at.  Bottom line on Saturday was that Rangers where more up for the game, where far hungrier than Celtic as they never pulled out of a 50/50 challenge whereas Celtic didn't seem to want to know.  We had no midfield steel like Barry Ferguson (hateful looking tr**p)..dare i say this is the game where we missed Neil Lennon bulling around the middle of the park??

As for Artur Boruc........absolute legend....you gotta love that man  :D
dunno about that
I thought Celtic looked like the better team and most likely to score up until the second goal.
its that rubbish defense that strachan has installed (and lack of buying decent cover at full back) thats the problem.
If they stop gifting goals, they'd have at least drawn on sat last.
Boruc was right about the attitude/thuggery of rangers players, the MON era had Celtic players also playing this way , and rangers couldnt handle it then.
GS is all for a 'we are all scots' mentality, and wants his team to play nice guy football - which is great, except that rangers dont do this , esp when playing celtic.

Boruc should have a slap or two at his own players to get them kick started and not allow them to be as girly again. Smith is a few losses away from being sacked...if celtic had won that game, his tenure would def be in question.
The CL and win over celtic are papering over his current problems. He cant buy his success this time - he got sacked last time too because of that (because the money run out).
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on October 24, 2007, 02:07:43 PM
Smith has installed aggression into Rangers...something that Celtic certainly lacked on Sunday...bottom line they didn't want to know on Saturday morning.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 24, 2007, 02:11:09 PM
Smith has installed aggression into Rangers...something that Celtic certainly lacked on Sunday...bottom line they didn't want to know on Saturday morning.
would agree with that
strachan has done the opposite
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on October 24, 2007, 02:22:47 PM
The Braisen Head is a good bar owned by an Italian Scottish bloke who is sound as a pound. He is very friendly with Neil Lennon's father, i was with them in the team hotel in Milan a few years back. It's only a 5 min walk from the ground.

Had a look on de web there, by 5 mins walk I presume u mean 50...

I am not overly worried about Rankers, aggression and counter attacking in the big games can only get Smith so far. He showed down at Everton how ordinary he is without cash to splash. We sure missed Lennon on Sun, Sno and Donati not up to that harrying role, should've brought Scott Brown back... Anyway, I believe we'll win the league if we plug the gaps at the back. Not a fan of Calderwell, hasn't got what it takes IMO. I would welcome Bobos no nonsense defending at the moment actually...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 24, 2007, 02:25:41 PM
The Braisen Head is a good bar owned by an Italian Scottish bloke who is sound as a pound. He is very friendly with Neil Lennon's father, i was with them in the team hotel in Milan a few years back. It's only a 5 min walk from the ground.

Had a look on de web there, by 5 mins walk I presume u mean 50...

I am not overly worried about Rankers, aggression and counter attacking in the big games can only get Smith so far. He showed down at Everton how ordinary he is without cash to splash. We sure missed Lennon on Sun, Sno and Donati not up to that harrying role, should've brought Scott Brown back... Anyway, I believe we'll win the league if we plug the gaps at the back. Not a fan of Calderwell, hasn't got what it takes IMO. I would welcome Bobos no nonsense defending at the moment actually...

have never seen a REAL centre half watch and LET a ball pass them by instead of kicking it to Row Z when in the same situation.
McManus 100% committed but a converted LB naturally. Caldwell tries to play too much football for a centre half. SPL scots version of rio  :o
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 24, 2007, 02:36:40 PM
Have to admit that Walter Smith taking back Rangers does worry me...he is a top class manager and can always seem to get the best out of his players no matter what level they are at.  Bottom line on Saturday was that Rangers where more up for the game, where far hungrier than Celtic as they never pulled out of a 50/50 challenge whereas Celtic didn't seem to want to know.  We had no midfield steel like Barry Ferguson (hateful looking tr**p)..dare i say this is the game where we missed Neil Lennon bulling around the middle of the park??

As for Artur Boruc........absolute legend....you gotta love that man  :D

I wouldn't say Smith is a top class manager. A competent one yes but no more than that. What he can do is get Rangers fired up and aggressive for games against Celtic. And he bought players with a physical presence about them even though they may not be the most talented footballers technically. Thought Rangers looks much the hungrier team last weekend and Smith will always get them pumped up for these fixtures. Strachan hasn't got his head around it yet. He doesn't seem to realise that the hungrier more aggressive team nearly always wins the OF derby and unless he gets the Celtic players fired up for these games I can see them losing a couple more of them this season. Granted Celtic were a bit hampered with a raft of injuries to their defence the last day.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on October 25, 2007, 01:14:59 AM
have never seen a REAL centre half watch and LET a ball pass them by instead of kicking it to Row Z when in the same situation.
McManus 100% committed but a converted LB naturally. Caldwell tries to play too much football for a centre half. SPL scots version of rio  :o

I disagree with this lynchbhoy. McManus has shown time and again over the past couple of seasons (for Celtic and Scotland) that he is a class centre half, reads the game well and is in the right place at the right time. Plus he has tremendous determination. Certainly not a left back though and I dont recall him ever playing there, when I heard of him as a young lad too he was a centre half. Agree about Caldwell who is a liability and wasnt even particularly rated by Hibs fans when he was there.

People are probably also doing Rangers a disservice by just labelling them a physical side. You dont beat Lyon 3-0 away just by being physically strong. Smith has got together a very solid squad with some very good players in key positions and decent hard working players alongside them. People were saying I was way wrong a few months ago on this thread to suggest Rangers would challenge Celtic and said the gap was too big...but they said that when MoN came to Celtic and within a couple of months his team wiped the Huns 6-2 at Parkhead. Rangers are serious players this season.

Celtic were unlucky tonight without doubt, rode their luck at times but would have been worthy of a point IMO. Shame as a point there would have been very handy. Probably need to win both home games now and maybe try and sneak something in Milan. Can still be done.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on October 25, 2007, 01:36:12 AM
Also disagree with lynchboy - McManus is no full back, can't picture him raiding up the flank at all, and he's our best option at centre half.

Was training tonight so only caught the last half hour but IMO Celtic would have been lucky to get a point if we had from what I saw.  Hartley again impressed me and McGeady looked lively.  Why was McDonald not started when he's been in great form?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on October 25, 2007, 01:14:32 PM
Another disappointing result away from home. Even more so when the Huns can go and win in Lyon with a team on paper vastly inferior to Celtic's.

I intend to raise this point at the AGM in Glasgow on November 19th. I fear my huge investment in the club is not paying dividends
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 25, 2007, 01:24:10 PM
Sh*te management decisions last night.
If you send your team out to get a draw, have them playing 10 men in their own 18 yard area for large parts of the game and defending by using the offside trap, then getting beaten one nil is hardly a surprise!
Naka left on the bench, starting with one striker (and picking the one who has scored once over the guy whose banging them in for fun at the minute), Sno and Jiri getting a match at all - Jesus wept.

Thought Killen did ok given his difficult role, but WGS has to hold his hands up for this one-complete balls up tactically.
Benfica were a mediocre side at best, but we gave them the space and they used it, that guy who scored for them, also hitting the crossbar and upright was outstanding, sign him up straight away before the return leg!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on October 25, 2007, 01:37:38 PM
Have to agree. Smith beats Strachan for tactical awareness hands down. John Collins might be a better long term bet for Celtic as manager.

Gonna be tremendously hard to qualify now as I don't think 9 points will be enough this year. Shaktar will take 3 off Benfica at home and at least draw with Milan at home, which would leave them on 10 (assuming that Celtic beat them at Parkhead) That would leave Celtic needing something from the San Siro (and Milan will be fired up after what happened in Glasgow) and a win over Shaktar by at least 3 goals at home.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on October 25, 2007, 03:40:31 PM
To be honest Tony, never at any point from when the draw was made, and it is still my view, have I thought we've a realistic shout of a top-2 finish in that group.  I would grab a UEFA cup spot at the minute and only the very optimistic fan would disagree with me I think.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 25, 2007, 03:55:21 PM
have never seen a REAL centre half watch and LET a ball pass them by instead of kicking it to Row Z when in the same situation.
McManus 100% committed but a converted LB naturally. Caldwell tries to play too much football for a centre half. SPL scots version of rio  :o

I disagree with this lynchbhoy. McManus has shown time and again over the past couple of seasons (for Celtic and Scotland) that he is a class centre half, reads the game well and is in the right place at the right time. Plus he has tremendous determination. Certainly not a left back though and I dont recall him ever playing there, when I heard of him as a young lad too he was a centre half. Agree about Caldwell who is a liability and wasnt even particularly rated by Hibs fans when he was there.

People are probably also doing Rangers a disservice by just labelling them a physical side. You dont beat Lyon 3-0 away just by being physically strong. Smith has got together a very solid squad with some very good players in key positions and decent hard working players alongside them. People were saying I was way wrong a few months ago on this thread to suggest Rangers would challenge Celtic and said the gap was too big...but they said that when MoN came to Celtic and within a couple of months his team wiped the Huns 6-2 at Parkhead. Rangers are serious players this season.

Celtic were unlucky tonight without doubt, rode their luck at times but would have been worthy of a point IMO. Shame as a point there would have been very handy. Probably need to win both home games now and maybe try and sneak something in Milan. Can still be done.
imo to me mcmanus has never shown me that he is anything other than a very committed player.
He has no positional sense, he didnt guard himself against fellas jumping in a la cousin last sat, he is completely one sided, and tries to play football out of defense when he has a bad first touch and is a poor passer.
Caldwell is the other extreme, he can pass, but you want to play the simple ball as a centre half and is too much of a 'footballer' .
Rem - safety first when playing in defense.
Rangers are playing well, with confidence, but have seen them in other games and they are poor. They are v physical and mccurry let them away with it v celtic. They did not look like much of a side apart from athe first two gifted goals, and its easy to pick apart a team who HAVE to come at you and score a couple. They are competent, but imo thats about it. If GS is any good, he will see celtics failings and address these in time for the next derby game.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 25, 2007, 03:58:24 PM
Sh*te management decisions last night.
If you send your team out to get a draw, have them playing 10 men in their own 18 yard area for large parts of the game and defending by using the offside trap, then getting beaten one nil is hardly a surprise!
Naka left on the bench, starting with one striker (and picking the one who has scored once over the guy whose banging them in for fun at the minute), Sno and Jiri getting a match at all - Jesus wept.

Thought Killen did ok given his difficult role, but WGS has to hold his hands up for this one-complete balls up tactically.
Benfica were a mediocre side at best, but we gave them the space and they used it, that guy who scored for them, also hitting the crossbar and upright was outstanding, sign him up straight away before the return leg!

thought GS was holding McDonald until benfica tired and then let him loose. Not a bad idea.
 Pity he didnt tell the defenders to mark up and find row Z. Defenders who cannot defend. That drives me insane.

cant se celtic getting anything other than third place. Pity, as bad tactical decisions away to shakthar cost them a draw, plus last night a fully fit celtic team might have got more than a draw they nearly got.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on October 30, 2007, 02:45:33 PM
Good performance from the Bhoys on Sat although the start was ropey to say the least. Have to say most of the talk after the game was about the performances of McDonald and McGeady (and they did the business alright) but Scott Brown was just sensational in my eyes, reminds me of a young Keane at Notts Forrest with the drive from midfield, appetitie and work rate and he just gets better and better every time I see him. He showed some real touches of class at times with backheels that Naka would be proud of. Lovely ball by Naylor for the second and hopefully he's coming back into the form from last season. Need to get a right back fit as soon as possible though. Liked the look of Hartley in the middle with Brown but Killen didn't have as good a game as on Wed I thought. U get the feeling he won't get a look in when Venegor gets back. All in all, a great weekend for Timdom with the Huns getting humped. What was I saying about agression and counter attacking only getting you so far???  ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on October 30, 2007, 02:55:42 PM
The problem is that it has got the Huns three victories over Celtic in 2007.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 30, 2007, 03:57:07 PM
The problem is that it has got the Huns three victories over Celtic in 2007.
a wee bit of strategy and brain power would help from Celtic's manager.
Dont know if he has that though. Seems to pick  and field the correct strategy a week after the games...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on November 05, 2007, 03:28:35 PM
Looking forward to the match tomorrow, after a decent performance on Saturday I thought against Kilmarnock.  McGeady and McDonald are in great form and Hartley was again excellent in the holding role.  Benfica are pretty poor away from home and I think Celtic will take it with a 2-1 win.  Anyone else heading to the game?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 05, 2007, 04:39:16 PM
Anything less than a 2-0 win tomorrow night will be seen as a failure for the Bhoys.

Sure wsh I was going, was at the Juve match in 2001 (4-3) and last year's 1-0 win against Man Ure, and although Benfica are not in the same class as those two, you simply cannot beat a big European game at Paradise for atmosphere.

Here's hoping the huns get tanked in the Nou Camp as well! ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 05, 2007, 05:19:42 PM
Anything less than a 2-0 win tomorrow night will be seen as a failure for the Bhoys.

Sure wsh I was going, was at the Juve match in 2001 (4-3) and last year's 1-0 win against Man Ure, and although Benfica are not in the same class as those two, you simply cannot beat a big European game at Paradise for atmosphere.

Here's hoping the huns get tanked in the Nou Camp as well! ;D
ah yes the return game v Barcelona
it moves from camp zoo to camp nou  :D

Celtic need to win. GS has to start getting his tactics and selection right.
Can win 2-0
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 06, 2007, 02:02:48 PM
Alot of tonights result will be down to WGS's team selection and tactics - leave Sno in the changing room FFS please, also leave Jiri on the bench, start with McDonald and Van up front, Killen and Riordan on the bench as back-up, McGeady on, Naka missing will be a loss, but I would have only brought him on at half-time anyway. Gomes starting for them - tough, we also need to man mark your man Oscar!

Going to stick my neck out and say Celtic 3-1 with McDonald to score first.


Hail Hail - Come on the Hoops
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on November 06, 2007, 02:13:19 PM
I think it's imperative we play Hartley & Brown in the center, put Donati on the wing if needs must. Also put Caldwell on the bench!!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Sky Blue on November 06, 2007, 08:39:00 PM
Celtic 1 up. McGeaney on the stroke of half time.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on November 06, 2007, 09:30:09 PM
Fed up watching Liverpool scoring.
That was the worst tackle I've ever seen there on Scott Brown, dunno how his leg wasn't broke, horrific, Benfica tr**p sent off, rightly so. Sickening.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Jack_Black on November 06, 2007, 09:32:09 PM
one of the worst tackles i have ever seen, how it didnt break his leg i dont know
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on November 06, 2007, 09:37:01 PM
brilliant result but will still probably have to beat shaktar 3-0 at home.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: dodo on November 06, 2007, 09:45:27 PM
Christ ! Just seen the tackle........what sort of a person would intentionally carry out such an act in a sports fixtiure.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: bingobus on November 06, 2007, 09:55:46 PM
Christ ! Just seen the tackle........what sort of a person would intentionally carry out such an act in a sports fixtiure.

He must model his game on Roy Keane. Can't wait for his Autobiography  ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 06, 2007, 10:03:49 PM
Disgraceful tackle. How the leg didn't snap I don't know.

Incidentally McGeady was absolute sensational (as he has been for Celtic for the past few month or so) and after the RTE panel were more or less mocking him beforehand. Just goes to show they know absolutely nothing outside the English premier league.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on November 06, 2007, 10:12:25 PM
Scott Brown shinpads will be a big seller in the Celtic shop.

Delighted with McGeady's performance, he was class. A credit to himself and to Strachan's management of him.

Also good to have a strong finish from Celtic. Milan's win means it should be a duel between Celtic and Shakhtar.
It could also work in Celtic's favour that Milan might be happy with a draw at home in their last game.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 06, 2007, 10:24:04 PM
Disgraceful tackle. How the leg didn't snap I don't know.

Incidentally McGeady was absolute sensational (as he has been for Celtic for the past few month or so) and after the RTE panel were more or less mocking him beforehand. Just goes to show they know absolutely nothing outside the English premier league.

In fairness Galwaybayboy he has been awful for Ireland and i think thats what they were judging him on

Well exactly they've seen him play a few times for Ireland and came to this conclusion even though he's playing up a storm for Celtic at the moment. If they don't see it in Ireland games or the Premier League they don't wanna know.

Though in fairness not many players shined for Ireland under Stan.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 06, 2007, 10:26:07 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_6NXeegtvBs
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: bingobus on November 06, 2007, 10:40:49 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rvfyLxWj5CM (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rvfyLxWj5CM)

Laughed at Sir Righteous Dunphy talking about how real hard footballers like Giles and Souness wouldn't be seen making tackles like that. Souness was pure flith.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on November 06, 2007, 10:41:03 PM
Christ ! Just seen the tackle........what sort of a person would intentionally carry out such an act in a sports fixtiure.

He must model his game on Roy Keane. Can't wait for his Autobiography  ;D
:D

A terrible tackle, and Brown is lucky not to have been injured from it.

Have to laugh at Souness giving out about it, given his past: http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=rvfyLxWj5CM (http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=rvfyLxWj5CM)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 06, 2007, 10:43:18 PM
It was straight out of the Souness textbook. ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on November 07, 2007, 02:48:14 AM
McGeady was unplayable tonight, finally beginning to fulfill his potential on a consistent basis.  Hartley was immense, mopped up everything, while Brown and McDonald were also impressive.

Wouldnt have thought it a few weeks ago but a 2-0 win home to Shaktar should see us through!

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 07, 2007, 10:02:42 AM
is it not a 3-0 win to shaktar they need?
Still will be hard enough winning let alone scoring 3 !
With that def, it will be hard enough to not concede a goal !
sorry for being so negative. The def destroys any confidence I have in the good midfield and good forwards that Celtic have (JVOH is good when fit).

McGeady showing more and more signs of the player he was once touted to be.
He has the pace, he is starting to get stronger and not as easily pushed off the ball as he once was. He has great skill, fast feet , a decent shot and an eye for goal.
He needs to fine tune his crossing though. He also needs to end his great runs and pieces of trickery with a pass to a team mate that ends up in a shooting possibility or a decent cross as all too often his work ends up with no product.
This is improving I will add, but he is a long way off being the finished article, and if he can get there, he will be an Irish/Scots Ronaldinho.
GS needs to get new defenders in. Only for Hartley Celtic were fecked in the first half. Brown and McDonald as well as McGeady and Hartley were superb for the Celts.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 07, 2007, 10:05:39 AM
Souness on George Mc Cluskey anyone, in one of his first games, if not the first, after taking over the Huns.

What price the point in Lisbon now if the Bhoys had held on for another couple of minutes?

Still Milan beating Shaktar was what we all wanted to see. If Milan have already qualified by the last game (and they should be) it may not be too difficult taking a crucial point at the San Siro
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on November 07, 2007, 10:10:05 AM
a 3-0 home win against shaktar will see celtic through (unless benfica beat milan and shaktar). the 3 week break might help shaktar get over the 2 bad beatings from milan though.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 07, 2007, 10:15:23 AM
That tackle last night on Brown was absolutely disgusting. The Celtic lads should have clattered the sh1te out of that fella. It was easily as bad as Keane on Haaland.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on November 07, 2007, 12:12:42 PM
Shocking tackle, credit to Brown for being able to take to the field after it, he'll be keeping an eye out for a rematch with that coward again no doubt. He was threading a fine line with some of his earlier tackles and a stricter ref would have at least booked him earlier. Have to say though, one of the best refereed matches I've seen in quite a while, let the game flow and got most of the going to ground and other decisions spot on.

Excellent performance from McGeady, his game is really coming on, great at making some room for a shot, but needs to put the ball in the corner, not down the throat of de keeper. Keeper, midfield and upfront were excellent but it was nearly undone by that defense. I think Kennedy is now feeling the strain of playing twice a week after being out for so long as he looked ropey last night. Hopefully getting Wilson or Doumbe back will give us balance but we definitely need some strengthing in this area in Jan...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on November 07, 2007, 12:15:08 PM
Missed the tackle
Anyone got a link to it?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 07, 2007, 01:09:09 PM
Anyone else think Mc Geady takes too much stick from the RTE Panellists? w**ker Dunphy was ridiculing him again last night and Giles normally has nothing good to say about Celtic (probably hasn't got over the defeat in the European Cup semi final all those years ago), Souness last night diplomatically said nothing (he must be in the frame to take over the manager's hotseat), and Brady the absolute failure as Manager at Parkhead, is normally not very complimentary towards the Bhopys either, though he wasn't there last night.

You almost get the feeling that they think no one playing in the SPL is good enough for Ireland
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on November 07, 2007, 01:35:53 PM
o'herlihy was probably doing the most sniggering about mcgeady.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on November 07, 2007, 01:36:48 PM
is it not a 3-0 win to shaktar they need?
Still will be hard enough winning let alone scoring 3 !


3-0 will see us all-but through but 2-0 should be enough (I think) as that would match Shaktar on head-to-head and then Celtic should have a better goal difference given the hammering Shaktar took from Milan.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 07, 2007, 01:43:16 PM
Incidentally ordered the new book to-day about George Connelly. Older Celts will remember him as an outstanding talent who couldn't hack the pressures of football and literally walked out on Celtic and a professional career. Should be an interesting read
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: magpie seanie on November 07, 2007, 02:05:58 PM
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That tackle last night on Brown was absolutely disgusting. The Celtic lads should have clattered the sh1te out of that fella. It was easily as bad as Keane on Haaland.

It was actually far worse in my opinion than the famed Keane/Haaland "tackle" but amazingly no outcry of condemnation thus far from the anti bad tackle lynch mob. The Celtic player was very lucky. You could just see his ankle roll over slightly or skid at the point of impact and that saved him. It will be interesting to see what ban the perpetrator gets.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: AZOffaly on November 07, 2007, 02:08:44 PM
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but amazingly no outcry of condemnation thus far from the anti bad tackle lynch mob

Is that not what I've just done? Or am I not in the lynch mob? :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: magpie seanie on November 07, 2007, 02:59:59 PM
No - you're not one I'd class in that category.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ludermor on November 07, 2007, 03:32:26 PM
Seanie in fairness now, do you expect people to comment on every bad tackle?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 07, 2007, 03:33:34 PM
No - you're not one I'd class in that category.
thought Keanes 'challenge' was a cracker meself. Certainly woul dhave been proud of that one if I was out to get someone back.
His only fault was it was just way too conspicuous - he's a bit of an amateur imo because of that !

Yer man was booked earlier last night , and could have seen red earlier if the ref was that way inclined (if the player wore a celtic jersey and was playing against rangers in the spl)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: magpie seanie on November 07, 2007, 03:36:35 PM
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Seanie in fairness now, do you expect people to comment on every bad tackle?

Well it was a lot more than a "bad tackle" and given the bleating about the Keane/Haaland one you'd expect the same people to have a view on a worse and more dangerous one.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ludermor on November 07, 2007, 03:38:34 PM
Put your pistol back in the holster!

to me it was a bad tackle.very bad.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on November 07, 2007, 04:17:47 PM
It was bad alright but the player got the red card,as he deserved, and Scott Brown is ok so move on.

Is there a better feel good tune to play immediately after a goal than the Fratelli's Chelsea Dagger, as done at Paradise? I don't think so!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on November 07, 2007, 04:23:54 PM
Yer man was booked earlier last night , and could have seen red earlier if the ref was that way inclined (if the player wore a celtic jersey and was playing against rangers in the spl)

Don't think he was. I remember him putting in a right few borderline challenges but don't remember him getting booked. Skysports and bbc just has him down for a red.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on November 07, 2007, 04:55:03 PM
Terrible challenge and brown was lucky not to get his leg broken.

Nobody else think Brown was guilty of a little time wasting after that though> When he sat down for the physio to come on and was smiling when he came over?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 07, 2007, 05:08:31 PM
Terrible challenge and brown was lucky not to get his leg broken.

Nobody else think Brown was guilty of a little time wasting after that though> When he sat down for the physio to come on and was smiling when he came over?

there was a wee smile allright nifan but i'd be smiling as well if i could walk after that tackle, as regards time wasting i don't think so ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the milkman on November 07, 2007, 05:44:00 PM
Incidentally ordered the new book to-day about George Connelly. Older Celts will remember him as an outstanding talent who couldn't hack the pressures of football and literally walked out on Celtic and a professional career. Should be an interesting read

Yeah i reckon it il be a great book.There was a preview of it in the daily ranger about 2weeks ago should be a good read, the man had a tough life by the sounds of it!

My da reckons he would have gone on to be one of the best ever Celts, sad stuff!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 07, 2007, 09:50:00 PM
Will take the 3 points, but not a great performance from the Celts!
Shaktar will be a tougher match and I'm worried we may not be up for the challenge!!
A win is essential, but a high goal win would be fantastic and really take the pressure off the last match in the San Siro.

Hail Hail
Title: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: T Fearon on November 12, 2007, 11:51:07 AM
Will be attending this next Monday, and will happily pose any questions on behalf of Celts on this Board.

Please supply a list of questions here, but I am not going to enquire about Evander Sno's frequent inclusion on the side as it is anticipated that 500 others will be asking this question ;D
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: T Fearon on November 20, 2007, 01:44:31 PM
Boy that was rough over in Paradise yesterday!

Vociferous opposition to John Reid's appointment as Celtic Chairman. One guy asked "Do we really want a War Criminal leading our Club?"

Other developments

High praise and a standing ovation for Wee Gordon Strachan

High praise and a standing ovation for outgoing Chairman Brian Quinn who was very emotional

A statue to Jinky Johnsgton to be erected at Celtic Park

Suggestion from the floor that Police with and I quote "big alsatians to eat anyone trying to get onto the pitch" to be deployed.

Scurrilous rumours being spread by Huns fans in relation to the late Jock Stein, thoroughly condemned.

Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: Rav67 on November 20, 2007, 07:47:32 PM
How come you were at it Tony do you own many shares in the club?  Heard about the Reid protest, lot of opposition to him and he will get a mixed reception if he is unveiled before a game.  I heard he said this job was his "biggest honour" though. 
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: the milkman on November 20, 2007, 08:00:07 PM
"Scurrilous rumours being spread by Huns fans in relation to the late Jock Stein, thoroughly condemned"

Glad to hear that, a disgrace them stories!

 From what I read John Reid seemed to handle it well though!
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: new devil on November 20, 2007, 08:44:55 PM
What were the rumours?
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: ziggysego on November 20, 2007, 08:51:16 PM
What were the rumours?

Tony knows his stuff about soccer. Naturally people are furious with that remark.
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: hardstation on November 20, 2007, 08:57:11 PM
I have to disagree, Ziggy. Tony does seem to know his soccer right and well. Obviously his Spurs, Celtic and ROI bias has left him with egg on his face but he does know a fair bit.

He hasn't shown much interest in Gaelic football in the last few years though.
No idea why.
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: new devil on November 20, 2007, 09:06:48 PM
What were the rumours?

Tony knows his stuff about soccer. Naturally people are furious with that remark.

 ??? what remark
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: new devil on November 20, 2007, 09:09:28 PM
 :D :D sorry ive just had a read over that again
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: Evil Genius on November 21, 2007, 12:30:25 AM
Hmmmm:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2213799,00.html
Attacks and accusations greet incoming Reid at Celtic

Ewan Murray
Tuesday November 20, 2007
The Guardian

John Reid suffered a baptism of fire at his inauguration as Celtic chairman yesterday when he was barracked as a "war criminal" from the floor at the Glasgow club's AGM.
There have been rumblings of discontent from the more radical elements of the Scottish champions' support since it was announced that Reid, a former home, defence and Northern Ireland secretary, would replace the outgoing Brian Quinn. A minority group of vocal fans have made it plain they feel Reid's role as a member of the Labour government, which played a key role in the invasion of Iraq in 2003, is at odds with the compassionate traditions of their club.


One shareholder told the Celtic board that Reid's appointment represented "a direct contradiction to the principles upon which the club was founded" and that the new chairman was "not fit for purpose".
Such sentiments were echoed by others, including Jeanette Findlay of the Celtic Supporters' Trust, who claimed Reid would be "forever identified with a political and human disaster" and that he was a "hate figure at home and abroad". Amid similar comments - one supporter said he had been visiting Celtic Park for 60 years but would not renew his season ticket on account of Reid's new role - and at least one call for order from Quinn, the new chairman issued a typically impressive and robust reply.

"This is the greatest honour of my life," said the MP for Airdrie and Shotts, who will leave parliament at the next general election. "Let me make one point clear: people have the right to their views on politics and religion, but they should leave them at the door of this football club. I have never been accused of walking away from any political debate or fight, but there are other forums to have that debate."

Confirmation of Reid's appointment was inevitable - he had gained 97.8% of the proxy votes from corporate and absent shareholders - but the sight of around 50 of the 400 supporters in attendance raising their hands against the motion to place him in office suggests tough times may be ahead for the new chairman.

The former cabinet minister highlighted his role in dealing with problems in Northern Ireland, Kosovo and Sierra Leone in attempting to pacify concerned supporters. Quinn had earlier dismissed accusations that Reid was a war criminal as "ludicrous", adding that Reid's political views were "no business of mine or the rest of the board".



Curious phrase: "contradictory to the principles upon which the club was founded". Perhaps another way of putting it might have been "not Celtic-minded".  ;)
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: T Fearon on November 21, 2007, 03:14:55 PM
Yes I nown shares in Celtic. Yes even if I do nsay so myself, I know more about soccer than anyone on this Board, including OWCers.

The abuse Reid took surprised me but I suspect that it was more about political opposition from SNP members. I was there early and got a seat in the very front row, and his face was definitely bright red when the tirades were raining down on him. He mounted a robust defence though, and his instalment as Chairman was never in doubt. I actually felt like getting up and defending him for his work in the six counties. I actually got to meet him afterwards and apologised for not doing this and he told me, and I quote, "You bloody well should have done!". Suppose he wouldn't be a politician if he wasn't able to take flak. It was quite humourous really. Those opposing him only expected at best a protest vote but I would estimate that less than 10% of those present raised their hands to support the protest. One guy claimed he had supported Celtic for forty years but would now be cancelling his season ticket, which prompted another wag to shout out "Can I have it?" ;D Also when another guy proposed Police to patrol the ground with "big alsatians" during games to prevent a repeat of the Dida incident, Reid said "Can I have an alsatian please? ;D ;D

Alan Brazil deals poignantly with abuse at the Celtic Boys Club in his book "There's an awful lot of bubbly in Brazil" He was subject to it himself and he travelled to Glasgow, not too long ago, to testify against the perpetrator in court which more or less secured the perpetrator's conviction. Brazil makes it clear in his book that when Big Jock got to hear about it he got the perpetrator out of the club pronto, but apparently he worked his way back in after the Big Man had gone. It was explained by the Board that the Stein family were happy with the way it was being handled by the club currently.

Incidentally spent a great couple of hours in the Museum of Scottish Football over at Hampden on Monday afternoon after the Celtic AGM. It really is a wonderful experience, apart from constant reruns of ARchie Gemmill's goal V Holland in Argentina 78. The legend section is brilliant, wee Gordon Strachan was just intalled in it last week. Most of the Lisbon Lions and Big Jock are in there as are tow Spurs greats, Dave Mackay and the late John White. They have a video biography on each of the legends, a life size portrait of each and there are cards there for you to nominate others who you thinks should be considered in the future. I nominated Martin O'Neill and Charlie Tully. Also they have reconstructed a dressing room from the old Hampden in the museum, with boots strewn over the benches and a couple of Scottish jersies hanging up and a couple of civilian suits as if the dressing room was in current use). You can also smell the wintergreen! Absolutely class and I think the FAI should consider something similar for the new Lansdowne
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: blasmere on November 21, 2007, 03:27:31 PM
Yes I nown shares in Celtic. Yes even if I do nsay so myself, I know more about soccer than anyone on this Board, including OWCers.

The abuse Reid took surprised me but I suspect that it was more about political opposition from SNP members. I was there early and got a seat in the very front row, and his face was definitely bright red when the tirades were raining down on him. He mounted a robust defence though, and his instalment as Chairman was never in doubt. I actually felt like getting up and defending him for his work in the six counties. I actually got to meet him afterwards and apologised for not doing this and he told me, and I quote, "You bloody well should have done!". Suppose he wouldn't be a politician if he wasn't able to take flak. It was quite humourous really. Those opposing him only expected at best a protest vote but I would estimate that less than 10% of those present raised their hands to support the protest. One guy claimed he had supported Celtic for forty years but would now be cancelling his season ticket, which prompted another wag to shout out "Can I have it?" ;D Also when another guy proposed Police to patrol the ground with "big alsatians" during games to prevent a repeat of the Dida incident, Reid said "Can I have an alsatian please? ;D ;D

Alan Brazil deals poignantly with abuse at the Celtic Boys Club in his book "There's an awful lot of bubbly in Brazil" He was subject to it himself and he travelled to Glasgow, not too long ago, to testify against the perpetrator in court which more or less secured the perpetrator's conviction. Brazil makes it clear in his book that when Big Jock got to hear about it he got the perpetrator out of the club pronto, but apparently he worked his way back in after the Big Man had gone. It was explained by the Board that the Stein family were happy with the way it was being handled by the club currently.

Incidentally spent a great couple of hours in the Museum of Scottish Football over at Hampden on Monday afternoon after the Celtic AGM. It really is a wonderful experience, apart from constant reruns of ARchie Gemmill's goal V Holland in Argentina 78. The legend section is brilliant, wee Gordon Strachan was just intalled in it last week. Most of the Lisbon Lions and Big Jock are in there as are tow Spurs greats, Dave Mackay and the late John White. They have a video biography on each of the legends, a life size portrait of each and there are cards there for you to nominate others who you thinks should be considered in the future. I nominated Martin O'Neill and Charlie Tully. Also they have reconstructed a dressing room from the old Hampden in the museum, with boots strewn over the benches and a couple of Scottish jersies hanging up and a couple of civilian suits as if the dressing room was in current use). You can also smell the wintergreen! Absolutely class and I think the FAI should consider something similar for the new Lansdowne

If ever there was an irritating idiot onthe radio it's alan brazil. When talking about a boatful of asylum seekers of the coast of the uk, he said it should be sunk, we don't need more of these scroungers in this country. He's a grade a plonker, a bit like jeremy clarkson!
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: Evil Genius on November 21, 2007, 04:48:28 PM
They have a video biography on each of the legends, a life size portrait of each and there are cards there for you to nominate others who you thinks should be considered in the future. I nominated Martin O'Neill and Charlie Tully.

Two fine choices, but you should have suggested the late, great Bertie Peacock, to make it a trio of heroes from Norn Iron (that's assuming "The Little Ant" isn't already there)

P.S. I hope you mentioned that Charlie Tully got his breakthrough in football when spotted by a scout as a youngster, playing at an RUC Sports Day at Windsor Park: that should swing it!  ;)
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: T Fearon on November 21, 2007, 04:54:02 PM
Believe it or not I actually considered Peacock but thought that 3 would be pushing it.

Tis a pity alright that the likes of O'Neill and Tully were compelled to represent an alien international side. If only FIFA had introduced the new ruling allowing Irish born players to play for Ireland at the time the IFA forced the split in Irish soccer
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: nifan on November 21, 2007, 04:58:53 PM
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If only FIFA had introduced the new ruling allowing Irish born players to play for Ireland at the time the IFA forced the split in Irish soccer

priceless :D
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: SammyG on November 21, 2007, 05:02:02 PM
If only FIFA had introduced the new ruling allowing Irish born players to play for Ireland at the time the IFA forced the split in Irish soccer
Are you trying to win a competition, for the most incorrect statements in a single sentence?
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: Evil Genius on November 21, 2007, 05:02:24 PM
Believe it or not I actually considered Peacock but thought that 3 would be pushing it.

Tis a pity alright that the likes of O'Neill and Tully were compelled to represent an alien international side. If only FIFA had introduced the new ruling allowing Irish born players to play for Ireland at the time the IFA forced the split in Irish soccer

No, no, Tony, they weren't little green men, the shirts were green...

And for someone who proclaims himself an expert on what he terms "soccer", you should know that the FAIFS was not "forced" to do anything when it split from the Irish Football Association. Moreover, it was the IFA team which was known as "Ireland" both before and after the breakaway; the other lot called themselves the "Irish Free State".  

3/10 - Must Do Better...
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: T Fearon on November 21, 2007, 05:40:56 PM
The IFA forced the split by

1.Not allowing Sunday soccer

2. By only selecting Southern Born players for certain fixtures etc

By the way I do not consider the current "IFA" to be the oldest soccer association in Ireland. The way I look at it is that the FAI was born out of the original IFA, and the portion remaining in Belfast, who wouldn't and wont consider an All Ireland team, are merely a dissident rump. The FAI is the true "Irish Football Association" that can legitimately trace its roots back to 1870
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 27, 2007, 11:41:20 AM
Looking like Artur and Naka may miss tomorrow's must win match!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on November 27, 2007, 11:53:29 AM
2-0 will leave the last game needing a 6 goal swing providing milan win tonight!

will miss arthur and naka (think he is 100% out),  what ye's think teamwise?

      AB/MB,
GC, SMCM, JK, LN,
PH, SB, JJ, AMCG,
  SMCD, JVOH
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on November 27, 2007, 12:24:13 PM
Think it's essential that Hartley and Brown play in the middle. Would put Jarosik on the right or failing that Donati.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on November 27, 2007, 12:26:59 PM
I miss Nakamura, what is the story with his injury? I thought he was on the bench against Benfica?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 27, 2007, 12:42:40 PM
will miss arthur and naka (think he is 100% out),  what ye's think teamwise?

      AB/MB,
GC, SMCM, JK, LN,
PH, SB, JJ, AMCG,
  SMCD, JVOH

I'd prefer to see O'Dea playing instead of either Kennedy or Naylor to be honest
but I reckon you are near what GS will select.

its a hard call for him though

will he go with the 451 initially with Hartley playing his suerb holding middle midfield role protecting that very shaky back 4.
or
will he go 442 and go after the win Celtic need.

I think he will start out cautious, then go for the win.
I think Jarosik will start, Donati seems to be out of favour following his tem loss in form.

Brown in the middle, McGeady on the left, with JJ or Hartley a toss up for the other wing and central midfield slot.Prob JJ on the wing.
I'd expect
AB
GC, SMCM, JK, LN,
JJ, SB, PH, AMCG,
  SMCD, JVOH

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on November 27, 2007, 01:32:38 PM
will miss arthur and naka (think he is 100% out),  what ye's think teamwise?

      AB/MB,
GC, SMCM, JK, LN,
PH, SB, JJ, AMCG,
  SMCD, JVOH

I'd prefer to see O'Dea playing instead of either Kennedy or Naylor to be honest
but I reckon you are near what GS will select.

its a hard call for him though

will he go with the 451 initially with Hartley playing his suerb holding middle midfield role protecting that very shaky back 4.
or
will he go 442 and go after the win Celtic need.

I think he will start out cautious, then go for the win.
I think Jarosik will start, Donati seems to be out of favour following his tem loss in form.

Brown in the middle, McGeady on the left, with JJ or Hartley a toss up for the other wing and central midfield slot.Prob JJ on the wing.
I'd expect
AB
GC, SMCM, JK, LN,
JJ, SB, PH, AMCG,
  SMCD, JVOH



think it has to be 442 would be a disaster to start cautiously at home, would let shaktar settle into the game, with the ball thumped up to scott at every oportunity the defence would surely be on top, need to hit them right from the start!!

btw did donati ever have much form?bit of a disappointment i think!

PS shaktar not going so well in the league and check out this from a recent game!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV5oMgHs7hk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV5oMgHs7hk)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 27, 2007, 01:38:41 PM
Agree, WGS needs to go for win, not sure about Jiri over Donati, but one thing I'm definate about is the need to leave Sno at home.!!


HAIL HAIL
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 27, 2007, 02:26:28 PM
saw donati a few times earlier in the season and he and brown both loked great, in fact at the start I thought donati was the better player.
Form for me dipped two weeks before that rangers game
hasnt really got his place back since.
Sno still finding his game and learning for me, just not ready...he's 20
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on November 27, 2007, 07:11:31 PM
Tony, did you by any chance get your photo taken with Dr John Reid when you were at the Celtic AGM?
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: T Fearon on November 27, 2007, 07:32:17 PM
No. But he had his photo taken with me ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the milkman on November 27, 2007, 07:35:37 PM
I reckon McGeady will start on the right and JJ. on the left with hartley and brown in the middle, and if things not working out Donati will come on for JJ. with Brown out wide and Mo. in the middle.

If brown and McGeady can get the room we should create enough chances to do it, 2-0 would be excellent result and I think we can do it!
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: Evil Genius on November 27, 2007, 08:17:57 PM
The IFA forced the split by

1.Not allowing Sunday soccer

2. By only selecting Southern Born players for certain fixtures etc

By the way I do not consider the current "IFA" to be the oldest soccer association in Ireland. The way I look at it is that the FAI was born out of the original IFA, and the portion remaining in Belfast, who wouldn't and wont consider an All Ireland team, are merely a dissident rump. The FAI is the true "Irish Football Association" that can legitimately trace its roots back to 1870

I really can't figure out whether you're an idiot or a bigot, on drugs, or some combination of the three. Either way, that post is horseshit of a purity and pungency which matches your very best (worst?) efforts... :o
Title: Re: The Celtic Trust - charming
Post by: Evil Genius on November 27, 2007, 08:36:30 PM
How gratifying that the great majority of true Celtic supporters appear to have distanced themselves from this loathsome individual:


http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1831802007
Outrage after Celtic fans' champion defends pro-IRA chants at matches

CRAIG BROWN (crbrown@scotsman.com)

THE head of a Celtic supporters' trust has provoked outrage by defending the singing of pro-IRA songs by the club's fans during matches.

Dr Jeanette Findlay, who chairs the Celtic Trust, which represents supporters and small shareholders, claimed chants about the IRA were "songs from a war of independence".

She was speaking during an interview on BBC Radio Five Live's breakfast programme. Her comments prompted a furious response from listeners.

Dr Findlay, who is a research fellow and economics lecturer at Glasgow University, had been replying to questions by presenter Nicky Campbell about the trust's opposition to the appointment as club chairman of the former home secretary, John Reid, who was a cabinet minister at the time of the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Dr Findlay said the trust's opposition was to do with Mr Reid's "leading role in relation to what many believe is an illegal and immoral war".

Mr Campbell then asked her if she was more uncomfortable with the singing of pro-terrorist songs or the appointment of Mr Reid.

Dr Findlay responded: "I have tried to explain about the nature of Celtic as a club. It was founded to help the poor Irish immigrants to Scotland.

"They may take a particular view of the history, of what happened in Ireland, which is different from many other people, so I don't call those pro-terrorist songs. What history tells us is that it is facile to say that politics and sport will ever be separated."

Mr Campbell said he was not referring to songs such as The Fields of Athenry, but to "actually chanting: 'The IRA'."

She replied: "Many of those songs are songs from what was essentially a war of independence going back over a hundred years."

Celtic fans bombarded the show with angry texts and e-mails and some members of the trust said they would quit.

One said: "I listened to her on my way to work. I was actually shouting at the radio for her to please shut up."

Another fan, Sean from Derry, texted: "Her one-eyed hypocritical views... are disturbing and a ludicrously perverted take on history. She doesn't represent the majority of opinion of Irish nationalist Celtic fans."

A Celtic FC spokeswoman distanced the club from Dr Findlay's words: "These comments are unrepresentative of the Celtic support... and we are delighted with the way in which our fans currently support the team."

Richard Benjamin, director of the anti-sectarian group Nil By Mouth, said: "While I defend Dr Findlay's right to express her personal beliefs, context is important. Expressing religious and political views in football can be damaging, not just to the sport, but to the wider community, too. I think most football supporters would not be exposed to chants about the IRA at matches."

Dr Findlay was unavailable for comment last night. The controversy came on the day the Scottish Government launched its Kick Out Bigotry campaign.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on November 27, 2007, 11:00:15 PM
He'll go 4-4-2, Hartley has to start in centre-mid along with Brown with McGeady and JJ either side.  Heading to it should be an excellent atmosphere as its a must-win.  I fancy Celtic to win by a goal, although I'm worried about the central defence and Shaktar played some really silky football in the away fixture.  Hopefully the midfield will provide much better protection this time.
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on November 27, 2007, 11:26:36 PM
Tony's picture is in our local paper and fine and well he looks too
Title: Re: Questions for next week's Celtic AGM
Post by: ziggysego on November 27, 2007, 11:29:42 PM
Why can't the club pronounce it's own name?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 28, 2007, 11:25:18 AM
From BBC Sport:


Celtic v Shakhtar Donetsk (Wed) 
 
Champions League, Group D match
Date: Wednesday, 28 November
Kick-off: 1945 GMT
Venue: Celtic Park
Listen: BBC Radio 5 Live, BBC Radio Scotland (810 MW)
Updates: BBC Sport website and mobile
Celtic manager Gordon Strachan will give late fitness tests to two key players ahead of Wednesday's Champions League match with Shakhtar Donetsk.

Goalkeeper Artur Boruc and midfielder Paul Hartley missed Saturday's 3-0 victory over Aberdeen.

Both trained with the rest of the squad on Tuesday and are hoping to recover in time to face the Ukrainian side.

Shaktar may be without Mexican midfield playmaker Nery Castillo after a fall-out with manager Mircea Lucescu.


News conference: Celtic boss Gordon Strachan



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Celtic (from): Boruc, Mark Brown, Caldwell, McManus, Kennedy, Naylor, Scott Brown, McGeady, Hartley, Donati, Jarosik, McDonald, Vennegoor of Hesselink, Zurawski, Caddis, Killen, Riordan, Pressley, Sno, O'Dea.


BIG MATCH STATS
Qualification

Celtic are through if they win by a three goal margin, and Benfica fail to beat AC Milan.

Shakhtar can progress if they defeat Celtic, and Benfica also fail to beat AC Milan.

Head-to-heads

Shakhtar Donetsk's and Celtic's only encounters before their meeting in the reverse fixture in this group, came in the first group phase of the 2004-05 Champions League.

The Ukrainian side won their home match (3-0) through goals by the Brazilians Matuzalem (two) and Brandao. Two weeks later, Celtic beat Shakhtar Donetsk (1-0) when Alan Thompson scored. Anatoli Tymoschuk and Cosmin Barcauan (both Shakhtar) were red-carded in that game. This season, Shakhtar beat Celtic 2-0 through goals by Brandao and Cristiano Lucarelli.

European history

This is the fifth Champions League campaign for Celtic, the 1967 Champions Cup winners; it is Shakhtar's fourth in the Champions League and 18th in European competition.

Shakhtar failed to negotiate the group phase in their three previous CL participations.

Current European form

Celtic are unbeaten in their last 10 home matches in European competition, the last eight were in the CL since losing 1-3 to Barcelona on 14 September 2004.

Shakhtar have lost their last two CL matches.

Player and disciplinary info

Shakhtar's Fernandinho is suspended for this match. Scott Brown (Celtic) and Darijo Srna (Shakhtar) will be suspended if booked.

Shakhtar goalkeeper Andri Pyatov is the only player from his team who has been on the field for every minute of this CL season.

Other miscellaneous facts

Shakhtar Donetsk lost two points in the Ukranian league on Saturday, when they drew 1-1 at home to bottom placed Naftovyk. However, they still lead the UPL by one point from Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk.

Celtic recorded a 3-0 win against Aberdeen and have a three point lead over Rangers at the top of the SPL.

Shakhtar Donetsk's next victory will be their 50th in European competition.

Celtic need one goal to record 200 in the Champions Cup/Champions League, and four goals to reach 400 in all European competitions.

 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on November 28, 2007, 11:31:22 AM
EG, do u have an exact transcript of that interview???
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on November 28, 2007, 11:46:11 AM
EG, do u have an exact transcript of that interview???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gcfghE78Nc

There's a youtube link if you get the chance to listen to it.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on November 28, 2007, 01:36:35 PM
Must win game for one of the European giants tonight.  Celtic should win here tonight with some of the world class players they poses and go a long way in booking their place in the Second round.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 28, 2007, 01:43:22 PM
I like the idea of beating Shaktar 3-0 and not having to worry about the result of the AC match.  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 28, 2007, 02:30:35 PM
Celtic struggle to score more than one in europe at home
if they can protect that 'scottish sieve' back four (ok one of them is English) then a 1-0 win is quite possible

Shakthar are dangerous though and if the Celtic def is stretched , a fast counter attack could result in an away goal for them

wont go into eg's idiotic attempts at hi-jacking this thread, if he/she wants to peddle their bigotry jibes elsewhere - glass houses and all that- , maybe a new thread could be started up to discuss , as the notion he/she is trying to justify is a load of bollix
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on November 28, 2007, 02:40:46 PM
Quote
wont go into eg's idiotic attempts at hi-jacking this thread

In fairness this is the celtic thread - it is to discuss all the aspects of celtic surely.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 28, 2007, 02:44:58 PM
Quote
wont go into eg's idiotic attempts at hi-jacking this thread

In fairness this is the celtic thread - it is to discuss all the aspects of celtic surely.
kept it talking about actual football or did eg go off on the usual tangent of inserting the 'bigotry card' yet again  ::)
if this is to be debated, then a new thread please
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on November 28, 2007, 05:41:06 PM
Lynchboy - check out the NI thread - all sorts of wierd and wonderful posts on there, and not all to do with football.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on November 28, 2007, 09:53:18 PM
NIfan this is a football only thread.

It looked so difficult for long in the 2nd half to get the breakthough. Shakhtar were closing down so high up the pitch
it looked like Celtic were passing backwards and sideways but always patient.
Fair play to McGeady he never let his head drop in this game, I was shouting for him to pass it back then he does a little drop of the shoulder turns his man and sends in the winning cross.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Shortso79 on November 28, 2007, 09:59:11 PM
What a finish ! Unbelieveble !
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on November 28, 2007, 10:16:11 PM
I have been saying for awhile that probably after Given, McGeady is Irelands only other world class footballer.  Good finish and all is looking great for the hoops.  Celtic will be feared in the latter rounds of this European competition.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: SeanSouth on November 28, 2007, 10:17:28 PM
I have been saying for awhile that probably after Given, McGeady is Irelands only other world class footballer.  Good finish and all is looking great for the hoops.  Celtic will be feared in the latter rounds of this European competition.

When you say "world class" do you mean the little make believe world inside your head?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on November 28, 2007, 10:19:06 PM
I have been saying for awhile that probably after Given, McGeady is Irelands only other world class footballer.  Good finish and all is looking great for the hoops.  Celtic will be feared in the latter rounds of this European competition.

When you say "world class" do you mean the little make believe world inside your head?

No he would put the fear of god in any team in Europe.  If he were playing for a small club he would be gone by now.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 29, 2007, 09:26:41 AM
Lynchboy - check out the NI thread - all sorts of wierd and wonderful posts on there, and not all to do with football.
thats the problem in life - people think that things are ok if comparable to something else.
A lot of people on this island need to 'start thining outside the box' (To drive a lot o folks mad on this site, I'll use the phrase ) instead of using comparisons and pointing fingers. This is a football thread, not another vehicle for eg or anyone else to slyly try and inject some sectarian/bigoted connoctations.

Celtic did well to win that last night. The defense proved again they are not at the races. An average left back (with shot confidence), a ,makeshift Right back who hasnt the speed or skill to get forward and put in crosses, a centre back who is too one footed and drops clangers (trying to play footbal instead of row Z when in trouble). Pressley and O'Dea for me are the best centre halves the club has. Even these are not good enough for where Celtic should be. OK for the money Celtic seemingly dont have.

Midfield superb, but always on the back foot because of the lightweight back four.
Up front,well they saw so little of the ball its hard to tell on last nights perf.

Still Celtic are the old example of a team that never gives up, that will play above their talent on paper. A real credit to the players and the manager to be fair. I think the club and their fans really inspire this in the players.
A draw in Milan. Last 16 possibility.Jeez, looking at Celtic scraping CL qualification, you wouldnt have thought it. At least they will get into UEFA cup if they dont get a draw in milan.
More money to buy decent defenders.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on November 29, 2007, 10:16:19 AM
Lynchboy, where is it stated this is a football only thread?
Why shouldnt this be comparable to other threads on this site? Surely thats how protocol works  -we apply the same across the board. Who decides that is ok for this to be a football only thread, yet the IFA one is for all topics related to the IFA?

what has thinking outside the box got to do with this? Will that make us understand "this thread is for football only but this one isnt"
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: his holiness nb on November 29, 2007, 10:30:49 AM
Did ye honestly expect to have a Celtic thread without the OWC boys jumping in and commenting about matters non football related?
Hardly a surprise  ::)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on November 29, 2007, 10:34:34 AM
hhn, maybe you can explain why it should be different from other threads on the site?


And while it may not be "football related" it is most certainly celtic related, and this thread is "The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread"
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: his holiness nb on November 29, 2007, 10:38:39 AM
hhn, maybe you can explain why it should be different from other threads on the site?


And while it may not be "football related" it is most certainly celtic related, and this thread is "The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread"

Where did I say it should be different from the other threads?
And where did I say it should be football related only?
I just pointed out that its hardly suprising that the OWC boys would want to discuss matters non football on a Celtic thread.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on November 29, 2007, 10:40:24 AM
I aapologise, I read it as support for Lynchboy claiming it should be football only, and you did not state that
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tintin25 on November 29, 2007, 10:40:51 AM
I have been saying for awhile that probably after Given, McGeady is Irelands only other world class footballer.  Good finish and all is looking great for the hoops.  Celtic will be feared in the latter rounds of this European competition.

When you say "world class" do you mean the little make believe world inside your head?

No he would put the fear of god in any team in Europe.  If he were playing for a small club he would be gone by now.

World class me arse!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on November 29, 2007, 10:49:07 AM
McGeady is in no way world class.
I must admit to being impressed with him the last couple of times ive seen him, but the few times before that he was completely ineffectual and very light weight.

Have they had amny big money offers for him?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on November 29, 2007, 10:56:47 AM
Galwaybhoy, I hope you are a WUM, otherwise you are completely deluded
You have said in the last few days that Mc Geady is world class & John O Shea is under-rated
Take the green tinted glasses of FFS
While Mc Geady is a decent player, he is no more than that - if he was world class he would be in the Premiership, La Liga or Serie A
John O Shea is a squad player for Utd & does a job when needed, but you cant say he is under-rated if he is at a club like Utd
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tintin25 on November 29, 2007, 10:58:34 AM
Galwaybhoy, I hope you are a WUM, otherwise you are completely deluded
You have said in the last few days that Mc Geady is world class & John O Shea is under-rated
Take the green tinted glasses of FFS
While Mc Geady is a decent player, he is no more than that - if he was world class he would be in the Premiership, La Liga or Serie A
John O Shea is a squad player for Utd & does a job when needed, but you cant say he is under-rated if he is at a club like Utd

Agreed.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 29, 2007, 11:52:38 AM
I aapologise, I read it as support for Lynchboy claiming it should be football only, and you did not state that

Celtic related fine, Football preferable, but trying to avoid the WUM thread killing rows that you and cohorts try to create on certain threads (such as you are doing on this one right now) and sticking to football instead of non-issues.
Thats my last line off topic and back to the general tone of the thread and decency - which all too many seem to miss.
again nifan , your underlying bred-in distruptive attitude seeps through to your posts.


McGeady has superb talent, but still is only 'getting there'. He was a headless chicken in years pas, and was too light and easily shoved off the ball.
However he is ending his pieces of great skill and superb runs with crosses/shots/passes now where he used to run up blind alleys, pass when he should shoot and shoot where he should have passed.
He has got a lot stronger and it now not as easy to shove off the ball.
If he played for an EPL side or england (even scotland) he would be lauded to the rafters as better than george best etc.
I certainly think and hope that McGeady can continue to improve and be a star player for Celtic and Ireland.
Damien duff was a similar headless chicken with no 'end product' for his early years too - I think McGeady can and will be even better !
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on November 29, 2007, 12:00:24 PM
Celtic related fine, Football preferable, but trying to avoid the WUM thread killing rows that you and cohorts try to create on certain threads (such as you are doing on this one right now) and sticking to football instead of non-issues.
Thats my last line off topic and back to the general tone of the thread and decency - which all too many seem to miss.
again nifan , your underlying bred-in distruptive attitude seeps through to your posts.


my "underlying bred-in distruptive attitude seeps through to your posts" 
you talk some drivel, and seem to have some sort of bigoted opinion that all people of a certain backround are raised in the same way and deep down share the same opinion. Your frequent comments of reverting to type, bred-in etc highlight this. You have some shocking pre conceptions

Youll not i never posted the comment in the first place, nor commented on it  -some WUM
I just questioned your attitude when others have often commented on non footballing aspects of NI in the IFA thread and have saw nobody complaining.

Your initial comment even says "celtic fine" as far as i can see, uncomfortable as it may be EGs original post was very much celtic related.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: corn02 on November 29, 2007, 12:09:07 PM
McGeady, World Class? That is the craziest thing I have ever heard.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 29, 2007, 12:25:04 PM
McGeady, World Class? That is the craziest thing I have ever heard.
he's def not - well not yet, has showed up well at times but to be fair, there are some amount of absolutely sihte soccer players out there that are described as world class. A lot of them play for england or in the epl !
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: corn02 on November 29, 2007, 12:28:22 PM
Could not agree more Lynchboy but they are still a class or two above McGeady. A patchy player at best who will never develop into the World Class bracket.

If the likes of Gerrard and Scholes are still not recognised by some as World Class, then it is an insult to even use McGeadys name in the same sentence.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on November 29, 2007, 12:37:37 PM
Galwaybhoy, I hope you are a WUM, otherwise you are completely deluded
You have said in the last few days that Mc Geady is world class & John O Shea is under-rated
Take the green tinted glasses of FFS
While Mc Geady is a decent player, he is no more than that - if he was world class he would be in the Premiership, La Liga or Serie A
John O Shea is a squad player for Utd & does a job when needed, but you cant say he is under-rated if he is at a club like Utd

Why would he leave a European giant such as Celtic, an illustrious club with huge ambitions of winning the Champions league this year and go to another club in the Premiership or La Liga etc.  I'm sure if he were to leave Celtic would be looking for at least £30m for him, at least.

Also with the likes of O'Shea, Given and McGeady on the Irish team, and many other very good players coming along, once we get a good manager such as Souness or John Aldridge not only will we be qualifying for more World Cups etc and we will also be very competitive in those tournaments.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on November 29, 2007, 12:38:07 PM
Could not agree more Lynchboy but they are still a class or two above McGeady. A patchy player at best who will never develop into the World Class bracket.

If the likes of Gerrard and Scholes are still not recognised by some as World Class, then it is an insult to even use McGeadys name in the same sentence.
Cant say he wont, but the odds are stacked against him. Will he learn to his full potential under the coaching of Celtic's current and future staff ? Possibly under the current one as he is making the improvement (he def wouldnt under Martin O'Neill).
As for future coaches/managers at Celtic, who knows - unlikely though.
If McGeady transfers in the near future, then its then extremely unlikely he will ever reach his full potential, as he seems to be a slow enough learner. wing is a new position for him, but he is too small for the centre.

I think Gerrard and Scholes have def been recognised by the world as being top class international players.
There are so many more that are deemed to be that make me cringe.

The example I will leave is shaun maloney - the clamour for him to be recognised as 'world class' and the best young scots player , got him voted to be Scots player of the year. I fell out with a lot of Celtic and scotland suppoters over this (Temporarily).
the lad was fast, scored a couple of spectacular goals and was an all round headless chicken.
He had potential though, but went to Villa way too early and it now shows how unfinished he actually is.

I can see vast improvement in McGeady which is a great thing for Ireland and Celtic. Esp as he is getting better.
I dont care what label they put on him, as long as he does the business for us!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on November 29, 2007, 12:47:02 PM
Why would he leave a European giant such as Celtic, an illustrious club with huge ambitions of winning the Champions league this year and go to another club in the Premiership or La Liga etc.  I'm sure if he were to leave Celtic would be looking for at least £30m for him, at least.

Also with the likes of O'Shea, Given and McGeady on the Irish team, and many other very good players coming along, once we get a good manager such as Souness or John Aldridge not only will we be qualifying for more World Cups etc and we will also be very competitive in those tournaments.

 :D :D
Now I know you are a WUM
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on November 29, 2007, 01:11:42 PM
The McGeady world class hype is laughable.

Last night and in the other CL games demonstrates that he is achieving a consistant level of maturity and skill at the highest levels in Europe.
I didn´t see enough of him in earlier years to compare then with now.
In the 2nd half against Spartak his ability to take under control a hoof out of defense winning a free kick and taking all the pressure off was brilliant.
Last night he was tightly marked, not a lot of scope to create much but 2 or 3 brilliant moves, thats all that was needed.
 Before I thought he was trying to do it all the time. Throughout the game he kept his composure very well. 

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 29, 2007, 03:42:27 PM
McGeady is changing into a very good player, but he is still young and has alot to do - but the improvement even this season for both Celtic and Ireland is there for all to see.
As for world class, I think Galwaybhoy is being a little tongue in cheek with that comment!  ;)
But becoming "world class" is not out of the question for him in the future, IMO he has the ability, only time will tell.

Back to last nights TREEEMENDOUS and FANTASTIC and MARVELOUS result - unfcuking believable!  ;D
I'm still walking around today with a smile from ear to ear.  ;D ;D ;D

Jezuz next week can't come soon enough!


HAIL HAIL
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the milkman on November 29, 2007, 06:19:53 PM
McGeady will become a world class player. loads of ability and is now startin to put in the hard work to match it!
and so will Scott Brown!!!!!



Unreal last night, didnt think it was possible to get another late winner in front of the Jock Stein stand but the never give up!   And all without Naka, Wilson, Joel Doumbe and then JK. and Naylor going off, some result!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: under the bar on November 29, 2007, 06:58:59 PM
Quote
If the likes of Gerrard and Scholes are still not recognised by some as World Class, then it is an insult to even use McGeadys name in the same sentence.

Some might say it's an insult to Scholes to use Gerrard's name in the same sentance.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on November 29, 2007, 07:50:47 PM
The place went absolutely mad after that goal, despite so many late goals this season and last I didn't see that coming, a testament to the fighting spirit of Celtic especially with such a patched-up 11 on the pitch at the end.

McGeady was very good considering no-one really showed for him much down the wing, and Caldwell being a centre-half wasn't really overlapping to help him out much.  He's not quite yet but he will be a world-class player, he is finally beginning to add consistency to his game this past 2 months.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: corn02 on November 29, 2007, 10:58:57 PM
Some might be deluded then Under the Bar.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on November 30, 2007, 09:35:59 AM
People have to realise that McGeady himself had the honesty recently to admit that he was "lazy" on the field of play, and that this was something that he had to work on to improve himself as a player, noticeable that since that statement his performances have improved greatly.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: under the bar on December 04, 2007, 07:18:46 PM
I cannot believe that those usless fenian tramps in RTE aren't showing the Celtic match tonight!  Good grief!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: his holiness nb on December 04, 2007, 07:22:15 PM
I cannot believe that those usless fenian tramps in RTE aren't showing the Celtic match tonight!  Good grief!!

Its on setanta and sky.
If you dont get either get your hole to the pub.
checks watch.... and quick!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: stew on December 04, 2007, 07:41:13 PM
Is there a clip of mcGeady's goal somewhere, I here it was special. I was on holiday and didnt see it.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on December 04, 2007, 07:43:24 PM
Sadly I made the mistake to back Milan to top the group earlier in the competition (along with Real Madrid) and I could pay for it tonight as this will probably be the first away game Celtic have taken seriously in years.  Milan have it all to do to top the group and I would say they will have their top team out.  Celtic could very well run out 2 or 3 nil winners here.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaelicy O Flaherty on December 04, 2007, 07:45:57 PM
Sadly I made the mistake to back Milan to top the group earlier in the competition (along with Real Madrid) and I could pay for it tonight as this will probably be the first away game Celtic have taken seriously in years.  Milan have it all to do to top the group and I would say they will have their top team out.  Celtic could very well run out 2 or 3 nil winners here.

You are an idiot.

How have Celtic not taken an away game seriously in years?

2 or 3 nil winners? haha aye right
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on December 04, 2007, 07:50:33 PM
Sadly I made the mistake to back Milan to top the group earlier in the competition (along with Real Madrid) and I could pay for it tonight as this will probably be the first away game Celtic have taken seriously in years.  Milan have it all to do to top the group and I would say they will have their top team out.  Celtic could very well run out 2 or 3 nil winners here.

You are an idiot.

How have Celtic not taken an away game seriously in years?

2 or 3 nil winners? haha aye right

Look at their record, 15 losses in their last 16 away European games.  As a world footballing superpower if they had taken those games seriously they would have probably won at least 15 of them
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaelicy O Flaherty on December 04, 2007, 07:52:31 PM
Sadly I made the mistake to back Milan to top the group earlier in the competition (along with Real Madrid) and I could pay for it tonight as this will probably be the first away game Celtic have taken seriously in years.  Milan have it all to do to top the group and I would say they will have their top team out.  Celtic could very well run out 2 or 3 nil winners here.

You are an idiot.

How have Celtic not taken an away game seriously in years?

2 or 3 nil winners? haha aye right

Look at their record, 15 losses in their last 16 away European games.  As a world footballing superpower if they had taken those games seriously they would have probably won at least 15 of them

Wind up merchant lol
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 04, 2007, 07:53:05 PM
Shaktar one down already
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on December 04, 2007, 07:54:13 PM
hoops go through then
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on December 04, 2007, 07:54:55 PM
Good news for Celtic although they dont need Benficas help. 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on December 04, 2007, 08:03:07 PM
they close then.  How can you say they do not need help
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on December 04, 2007, 08:08:01 PM
2 down class
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 04, 2007, 08:08:32 PM
Well they're getting the help regardless, 2-0 benfica.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lecale2 on December 04, 2007, 08:28:39 PM
2-1 now. Celtic still nil all.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 04, 2007, 09:03:30 PM
I like Celtic but this is the most pathetic match you will ever see, just as well it's not on RTE. Training match for Milan. Ten players defending their own box. Looks like wee Gordon does know how to play for a draw.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: dec on December 04, 2007, 09:10:59 PM
Why are the group D games being played tonight while the rest of the groups are next week ?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on December 04, 2007, 09:12:59 PM
1-0 Milan.
Thank God something happened.
This match is the biggest pile of dung.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: The Gs Man on December 04, 2007, 09:13:45 PM
Match being played cos AC Milan are in the Supercup on Sat I think.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 04, 2007, 09:14:30 PM
Oops turns out he doesn't!

Milan are playing in that World Club Cup next week so the games were brought forward
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on December 04, 2007, 09:39:35 PM
All over. Celtic got what they deserved, to get beat but go through
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: SeanSouth on December 04, 2007, 09:41:36 PM
Typical Celtic in the group stages, win their home matches and beaten away. Only when the opposition is tougher in knockouts it will probably be draw at home and tanked away.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: slow corner back on December 04, 2007, 09:43:10 PM
Like it was tougher at anfield a few years back Sean!! At least celtic are through and can sit back and watch liverpol sweat next week.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on December 04, 2007, 09:51:26 PM
Like it was tougher at anfield a few years back Sean!! At least celtic are through and can sit back and watch liverpol sweat next week.

That was in the Uefa Cup
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: slow corner back on December 04, 2007, 09:55:20 PM
still hurt though didnt it laoislad
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: dec on December 04, 2007, 09:58:18 PM
Interesting head to head results. They wouldn't have got past any of their three opponents based on these results (Benfica tie would have gone to extra time).

Celtic 1-0 Benfica
Benfica 1-0 Celtic
(extra time required)

Celtic 2-1 AC Milan
AC Milan 1-0 Celtic
(out on away goals)

Shakhtar Donetsk 2-0 Celtic
Celtic 2-1 Shakhtar Donetsk
(lose 3-2 on aggregate)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: SeanSouth on December 04, 2007, 10:14:01 PM
It wasnt too heartbreaking SCB, i remember when Liverpool won the uefa cup in 2001 against Alaves, it was an exciting match, i was glad we won but didnt give too much cause for celebration as we needed to be in the Champions League. Contrast that with the super Celts in Seville in 2003, all the Celtic fans where i live drank for three days prior to the match and drowned their sorrows for three days after it.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: deiseach on December 04, 2007, 10:18:01 PM
Celtic beating Liverpool at Anfield did hurt. If only we could swap Liverpool's recent European record for Celtic's . . . 

What? What did I say?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: slow corner back on December 04, 2007, 10:24:40 PM
you would take that swap tonite deisach, celtic are in the last 16 while rafas reds are still sweating. In fact of six british teams in the champions league this year Celtic, Man U , Arsenal and Chelsea are through, Rangers need a home draw while liverpool need an away win. I think a swap with any of those 5 teams would be in order right now.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on December 04, 2007, 10:32:58 PM
Two Irish in a CL team, bit of a rarity.
McGeady was well wrapped up tonight, little or no effect.
O'Dea looks a good prospect not afraid to do a bit of shouting, I can't wait until he replaces O'Shea at centre half for Ireland.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: deiseach on December 04, 2007, 10:38:19 PM
you would take that swap tonite deisach, celtic are in the last 16 while rafas reds are still sweating. In fact of six british teams in the champions league this year Celtic, Man U , Arsenal and Chelsea are through, Rangers need a home draw while liverpool need an away win. I think a swap with any of those 5 teams would be in order right now.

So I'd swap Liverpool's recent European record for a place in this season's last 16? Um . . .
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: SeanSouth on December 04, 2007, 10:43:09 PM
Depends what your aims are SCB,another glorious failure in last 16 or a chance to actually win the competition.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on December 04, 2007, 10:51:59 PM
Typical Celtic in the group stages, win their home matches and beaten away. Only when the opposition is tougher in knockouts it will probably be draw at home and tanked away.

They played (and beat at Parkhead) the defending champions in the group stage SeanSouth so not really altogether fair to say tougher opposition is waiting for them in the knockout stage. 9 points is a decent tally from a tricky group, Celtic deserved to go through.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: deiseach on December 04, 2007, 10:55:45 PM
In fairness, Celtic qualified according to the rules. Not much point in second guessing them. They finished two points ahead of their nearest challengers, so it wasn't even close.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: under the bar on December 04, 2007, 11:03:29 PM
For Celtic (or Rangers for that matter) to mix it in the last 16 of the Champions League is no mean feat given their revenue.  Sunderland & Derby will take £30M minimum from getting tanked week in week out in the premiership.  Celtic get about £3M max for their domestic endeavours.   Not easy competing in the UEFA Cup on that budget never mind the CL.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 04, 2007, 11:05:26 PM
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I can't wait until he replaces O'Shea at centre half for Ireland.

In fairness O'Shea has never been a first choice centre back for Ireland although he has played there occasionally. Its been Dunne and McShane for the past campaign. O'Dea seems to have potential but needs to be playing regularly. Best to avoid the hype that constantly surrounds Irish players breaking through in Glasgow.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: deiseach on December 04, 2007, 11:11:36 PM
For Celtic (or Rangers for that matter) to mix it in the last 16 of the Champions League is no mean feat given their revenue.  Sunderland & Derby will take £30M minimum from getting tanked week in week out in the premiership.  Celtic get about £3M max for their domestic endeavours.   Not easy competing in the UEFA Cup on that budget never mind the CL.

That might be a useful comparison if they were competing with Sunderland or Derby in Europe. How much do you think Shaktar Donetsk earn from the Ukrainian domestic game?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on December 04, 2007, 11:29:24 PM
Well Celtic through as expected, the good times are ahead!

edit for spelling mistake
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on December 04, 2007, 11:33:45 PM
For Celtic (or Rangers for that matter) to mix it in the last 16 of the Champions League is no mean feat given their revenue.  Sunderland & Derby will take £30M minimum from getting tanked week in week out in the premiership.  Celtic get about £3M max for their domestic endeavours.   Not easy competing in the UEFA Cup on that budget never mind the CL.

That might be a useful comparison if they were competing with Sunderland or Derby in Europe. How much do you think Shaktar Donetsk earn from the Ukrainian domestic game?

shaktar spent €40 million in the summer.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: under the bar on December 05, 2007, 12:04:48 AM
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That might be a useful comparison if they were competing with Sunderland or Derby in Europe. How much do you think Shaktar Donetsk earn from the Ukrainian domestic game?

No but they are competing with Liverpool who earn about £40M a year domestically yet who Celtic have beaten at Anfield to put them out of Europe.  Liverpool played in the UEFA cup final in 02 and went on to win the CL in 05.   The only thing that stopped Celtic from building on their UEFA cup run was lack of revenue.

btw: Shakhtar have spent £50M in the past two seasons on players.  They have plenty of dodgy oil money. 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on December 05, 2007, 12:13:13 AM
When Celtic beat Liverpool they looked a lot better team that they do now, yet 2nd year running they are through to last 16.

If Rangers go through as well then they will claim a larger slice of that CL prize money.
Good for Scotlands CL seeding, bad for Celtics bank balance.


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tintin25 on December 05, 2007, 10:47:31 AM
Had a feeling that Celtic would lose but still get through. Fair play to them but when you look back you have to say it was a seriousley poor group. Yes, Milan are current European champions but haven't done nething this season to suggest they'll retain it or even push for domestic honours.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on December 05, 2007, 11:54:05 AM
Would disagree that its a poor group - Milan have been written off as "finished" for a while but they are European Champions and perenially make the semis at least. It was only April that they completely destroyed Man Utd lets not forget!  Benfica are unbeaten domestically for over a year, and Shaktar were the best of the 4th seeds easily - and the money they have spent has already been alluded to.

Well done WGS and the bhoys!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on December 05, 2007, 12:04:58 PM
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I can't wait until he replaces O'Shea at centre half for Ireland.

In fairness O'Shea has never been a first choice centre back for Ireland although he has played there occasionally. Its been Dunne and McShane for the past campaign. O'Dea seems to have potential but needs to be playing regularly. Best to avoid the hype that constantly surrounds Irish players breaking through in Glasgow.
I am not aware of any hype surrounding O'Dea. Most Irish fans think Celtic are playing in a lowish standard league. If he is not ready for Celtic then that says enough.
I have only seen O'Dea play for the u21's, as well as ability he is an organiser. Neither O'Shea nor McShane are talkers and  look better when playing with Dunne.
ATM Dunne is the only permanent centre half, McShane now is probably behind O'Shea in a pecking order.
Depending  on the new manager, there is a space waiting for O'Dea in the senior team/squad when he is ready to move up.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: deiseach on December 05, 2007, 02:08:40 PM
shaktar spent €40 million in the summer.

Crikey, I stand corrected. Fair play to Celtic on that score then
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tintin25 on December 05, 2007, 02:18:27 PM
Would disagree that its a poor group - Milan have been written off as "finished" for a while but they are European Champions and perenially make the semis at least. It was only April that they completely destroyed Man Utd lets not forget!  Benfica are unbeaten domestically for over a year, and Shaktar were the best of the 4th seeds easily - and the money they have spent has already been alluded to.

Well done WGS and the bhoys!

Milan haven't been great this season....performing poorly domestically and didn't look great in both the home and away leg with Celtic but it was still an acheivement for Celtic to beat them.....I would go as far to say that on cureent form alone then Milan are one of the weakest of the group winners. As I say, I'm not taking away from Celtic's acheivement to reach the knockout stages but trying to put some perpective on it. Shaktar have spent big but that doesn't necessarily mean they are laced with superstars! They spent over a half of the 40 mill on Luccarelli and that Mexican striker alone...Castillo I thik his name is. Luccarelli could be descined as an Italian journeyman and the Mexican dude doesn't even play!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on December 05, 2007, 03:41:23 PM
Benfica have a similar enough income to Celtic but made some decent money selling players on, sold a few players for €40m and could afford to spend over €30m on new players. Cardoza is a stand out for €9m.

Strachan had a good record with prevous clubs for profitable transfer dealings but atm he can only dream of having €9m to spend on a striker.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tintin25 on December 05, 2007, 03:57:47 PM
Benfica have a similar enough income to Celtic but made some decent money selling players on, sold a few players for €40m and could afford to spend over €30m on new players. Cardoza is a stand out for €9m.

Strachan had a good record with prevous clubs for profitable transfer dealings but atm he can only dream of having €9m to spend on a striker.

Forget about a striker...he'd need to sort out the full-backs!  :)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on December 13, 2007, 12:01:30 PM
when is the draw for the next round?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 12:03:34 PM
when is the draw for the next round?

Tomorrow week. Would like in order:

Porto
Sevilla
Inter Milan
Chelsea
Real Madrid
Manure
Barcelona
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on December 13, 2007, 12:14:13 PM
think id rather one of the eng teams that oul battle of britian craic seems to work...

man u
chelsea
porto
inter
seville
madrid
barca
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on December 13, 2007, 12:16:07 PM
when is the draw for the next round?

Tomorrow week. Would like in order:

Porto
Sevilla
Inter Milan
Chelsea
Real Madrid
Manure
Barcelona



Would say that getting Man Ure would be my preference, better the devil you know (or at least play like).
Porto would be nice for revenge, Sevilla would be the next choice, not sure about Chelski, can't remember the last time we played them, unknown quantity, though their inability to score at the minute could be a plus!  ;)
We are going to end up with Barca or Real though!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on December 13, 2007, 12:20:06 PM
when is the draw for the next round?

Tomorrow week. Would like in order:

Porto
Sevilla
Inter Milan
Chelsea
Real Madrid
Manure
Barcelona



Would say that getting Man Ure would be my preference, better the devil you know (or at least play like).
Porto would be nice for revenge, Sevilla would be the next choice, not sure about Chelski, can't remember the last time we played them, unknown quantity, though their inability to score at the minute could be a plus!  ;)
We are going to end up with Barca or Real though!

Of the teams left Chelsea would give the greatest satisfaction if we beat them, then again would cause most anguish if they won. Would like to avoid Manure and Barca most purely cause have played them recently and the quality of their players is a cut above IMO.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on December 13, 2007, 01:15:19 PM
Really hope Celtic avoid Chelsea because there was awful bother in the pre-season friendly last year when fans travelled to London, think there was a bit of aggro with the Man Ure fans last year too.  A lot of fans want Real because of the Hoops haven't got travelling to the Bernabeu in recent memory, having played most of the European giants in the past 6 years.

Seen the highlights of the Falkirk game there on Setanta, McGeady looked sensational while Conroy at left-back in the short bit I seen was very competent, good to have a bit more cover/competition in the full-back area.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on December 13, 2007, 02:39:24 PM
would take either inter, madrid or chelsea. the rest would be bad draws.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on December 13, 2007, 02:44:21 PM
would take either inter, madrid or chelsea. the rest would be bad draws.

And the above 3 wouldnt be bad draws ???
As Rav wrote a lot of the fans only want Real because they havent travelled there before
Celtic have exceded expectation so this far & anything else is a bonus
Title: Re: one team in europe
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 13, 2007, 09:22:06 PM
can you hrear me billy vconnolly, rod stewatrt , gerrry  adsma neil leenon, tony fearon, micghael from the fields of antherny, pope bendict can you hear me?  youre bhoys took a hell of abeating so they did. jan venegor of heselink, evnader snow, gordon starchan gerry adams (can you hear me gerry sadam), oyu're boys tookm a hell of a beating. John reid, martin mcguiness john hume, the cardianl ( id ont' no his name), mark sdebottom, jreome quinee, logie logan, derek desmonf, martin oneill, malky mackay, all fenians can you here me for i ahve this to say so i do.  Your bohy took a heel of a beating.

By the way, how did Rangers do klast night. I ca'nt get the result anywhere so I can't.

Foolw, foolw.

www.loveultser.com

Bump!
Title: Re: one team in europe
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 14, 2007, 08:23:05 AM
can you hrear me billy vconnolly, rod stewatrt , gerrry  adsma neil leenon, tony fearon, micghael from the fields of antherny, pope bendict can you hear me?  youre bhoys took a hell of abeating so they did. jan venegor of heselink, evnader snow, gordon starchan gerry adams (can you hear me gerry sadam), oyu're boys tookm a hell of a beating. John reid, martin mcguiness john hume, the cardianl ( id ont' no his name), mark sdebottom, jreome quinee, logie logan, derek desmonf, martin oneill, malky mackay, all fenians can you here me for i ahve this to say so i do.  Your bohy took a heel of a beating.
By the way, how did Rangers do klast night. I ca'nt get the result anywhere so I can't.
Foolw, foolw.
www.loveultser.com
wonder did he get this weeks result ?
Dont think its looking too good for fulham either - poor laurie is geting found out (but getting well paid for it though)...will be back in the beezer homes league div 3 again soon...

did you boy make any more trips over to see Celtic recently? I met him over at a game a few years back along with a posse of boys - his bro in law being one of them.

Bump!
Title: Re: one team in europe
Post by: saffron sam2 on December 14, 2007, 09:38:18 AM
did you boy make any more trips over to see Celtic recently? I met him over at a game a few years back along with a posse of boys - his bro in law being one of them.

Don't think so, now that his contacts for tickets have moved on and Forest is unlikely to interest him. The bollix used to laugh at me when I was going back and forward to Celtic Park during Rangers' nine in a row era. He was always more of a United man anyway and he had the wee lad over there for his birthday recently.
Title: Re: one team in europe
Post by: lynchbhoy on December 14, 2007, 09:44:24 AM
did you boy make any more trips over to see Celtic recently? I met him over at a game a few years back along with a posse of boys - his bro in law being one of them.

Don't think so, now that his contacts for tickets have moved on and Forest is unlikely to interest him. The bollix used to laugh at me when I was going back and forward to Celtic Park during Rangers' nine in a row era. He was always more of a United man anyway and he had the wee lad over there for his birthday recently.
I'm sure he's reminded of his liverpool origins occassionally. :D
Still he was a real avid hops fan with a couple of his cronies and bro in law that day. Sure he was young and foolish when he slagged you off.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on December 15, 2007, 06:18:05 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7145995.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7145995.stm)

would he not be cup tied for champ league? or am i wrong?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on December 21, 2007, 11:58:53 AM
when is the draw for the next round?

Tomorrow week. Would like in order:

Porto
Sevilla
Inter Milan
Chelsea
Real Madrid
Manure
Barcelona

Thanks Santa...  >:(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on January 09, 2008, 04:55:58 PM
well folks, any of ye know of any tickets for the home leg of the barca match?

eg any season ticket holders there unable to attend who could apply for a ticket?

cheers
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 09, 2008, 09:22:37 PM
well folks, any of ye know of any tickets for the home leg of the barca match?

eg any season ticket holders there unable to attend who could apply for a ticket?

cheers


I'm heading over with a club in Belfast, £100 ticket, bus and HSS, bit on the pricey side but it's going from Belfast and not the slow boat from Larne!
Have been told that there a a good few tickets going with the supporters clubs here in Belfast.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Whitehair on January 10, 2008, 01:30:37 AM
I went over to the Old Firm last year(0:1 in March) with the club before i was a member, paid £90 for ticket, bus from West Down to Docks, HSS over,bus and slow boat back. Slow boat back was good for the steam, bad result but the league was as good as won.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on January 10, 2008, 10:42:48 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7145995.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7145995.stm)

would he not be cup tied for champ league? or am i wrong?

Dont think he played much for Seville, so he might be ok.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on January 10, 2008, 01:06:39 PM
Hinkel is cup tied and not available for Celtic to play against Barcelona or any other CL games this season.

Other news, Boruc has signed a contract until 2011, enough said.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: UpDromore on January 10, 2008, 06:29:07 PM
Celtic tied Hibs 1-1, Barcelona should be  a piece of piss.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 11, 2008, 10:35:37 AM
Celtic edge closer to Mizuno deal 
 
Mizuno is seen as one of Japan's brightest stars
Japanese star Koki Mizuno will be granted the work permit he requires to join Celtic, BBC Sport understands.
Mizuno has not made the required number of international appearances to automatically guarantee a work visa.

But a Department of Employment advisory panel met on Wednesday and approved the 22-year-old midfielder's case.

Mizuno, who plays wide on the right, is coming to the end of his contract with J-League side JEF United and will undergo a medical on Thursday.

But Celtic fans may not see much of Mizuno or last season's Player of the Year Shunsuke Nakamura in the coming weeks due to international commitments.

 Japan begin their World Cup qualifying campaign in February and Mizuno and Nakamura are likely to be called up for warm-up games against Chile and Bosnia-Herzegovina later this month.

Nakamura arrived at the club in July 2005, in a £2.5m deal from Reggina, and has been a big hit in Scotland.

The playmaker is on the verge of a return to fitness after a lengthy spell on the sidelines with a knee injury.



Check out the young lad on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPNE4Zm2U7w&feature=related



 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on January 11, 2008, 10:38:47 AM
well folks, any of ye know of any tickets for the home leg of the barca match?

eg any season ticket holders there unable to attend who could apply for a ticket?

cheers


I'm heading over with a club in Belfast, £100 ticket, bus and HSS, bit on the pricey side but it's going from Belfast and not the slow boat from Larne!

Have been told that there a a good few tickets going with the supporters clubs here in Belfast.

Ye wouldn't happen til have their number would ye?

Cheers
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on January 11, 2008, 03:39:40 PM
This Mizuno kid sounds good but he'll have bother getting in the team when Naka's fit, and even McGeady's been playing on the right a lot this season.  Eager to see how Hinkel shapes up, apparently he cant play in the Champs League though unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 12, 2008, 09:44:54 PM
Scottish Cup - fifth-round draw 
 
Scottish Cup holders Celtic face a trip to either Kilmarnock or Airdrie United in the fifth round of the Scottish Cup.
With seven fourth-round ties postponed and four matches drawn, the list leaves open a number of possibilities.

Hibernian have the prospect of a home tie with Rangers, while St Mirren will take on Clyde or Dundee United.

Falkirk or Aberdeen will host Hamilton or Brechin and Hearts or Motherwell will be at home against Highland League side Huntly or Dundee.

Queen of the South are rewarded for a home win over Linlithgow Rose with a visit to either Morton or Gretna.

Ties to be played on weekend of February 2-3.

Scottish Cup fifth-round draw:

Morton or Gretna v Queen of the South
Falkirk or Aberdeen v Hamilton or Brechin
Airdrie Utd or Kilmarnock v Celtic
Hearts or Motherwell v Huntly or Dundee
Livingston or Cowdenbeath v Partick or Dunfermline
Hibernian v Rangers or East Stirlingshire
Cove Rangers or Ross County v St Johnstone or Raith Rovers
St Mirren v Clyde or Dundee United




 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 12, 2008, 09:48:28 PM
well folks, any of ye know of any tickets for the home leg of the barca match?

eg any season ticket holders there unable to attend who could apply for a ticket?

cheers


I'm heading over with a club in Belfast, £100 ticket, bus and HSS, bit on the pricey side but it's going from Belfast and not the slow boat from Larne!

Have been told that there a a good few tickets going with the supporters clubs here in Belfast.

Ye wouldn't happen til have their number would ye?

Cheers


I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyrone exile on January 13, 2008, 01:54:15 AM
if anyone has 2 spare tickets to the barca game drop me a pm
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on January 13, 2008, 12:54:42 PM
if anyone has 2 spare tickets to the barca game drop me a pm

 :D :D

get in line


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I'll see what I can do.
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cheers gaoth dobhair
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyrone exile on January 13, 2008, 03:28:43 PM
im sure we can work something out  ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Whitehair on January 13, 2008, 04:20:09 PM
The Old Firm on the 23rd is postponed again due to Rangers Scottish Cup match today being postponed. Its thought the old firm will now take place in March.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Over the Bar on January 13, 2008, 09:29:42 PM
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The Old Firm on the 23rd is postponed again due to Rangers Scottish Cup match today being postponed. Its thought the old firm will now take place in March.

Easyjet making a fortune out of this. lol
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on January 14, 2008, 12:55:27 PM
I take it McGeady will miss the next league game thru suspension (mean't to be the Rangers game) and free to play after??
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 14, 2008, 02:31:45 PM
Ifdown2, Was just off the phone with Beann Mhadaghan, at the minute the only deal for the Barca home match is, a double up, were you have to take in the Killie match this Saturday as well! (I'm going to the Killie match but not through a CSC, have got my Barca tickets through a friend) not sure if this suits you.

Will find out about the other CSC's in the area later this week and will let you know, William Orr CSC will be deciding on their plans for the Barca match shortly.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on January 14, 2008, 02:34:28 PM
Ifdown2, Was just off the phone with Beann Mhadaghan, at the minute the only deal for the Barca home match is, a double up, were you have to take in the Killie match this Saturday as well! (I'm going to the Killie match but not through a CSC, have got my Barca tickets through a friend) not sure if this suits you.

Will find out about the other CSC's in the area later this week and will let you know, William Orr CSC will be deciding on their plans for the Barca match shortly.

thats great lad, i would take the 2 matches if need be, you know what the price is? droped you a pm
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 22, 2008, 11:09:23 AM
Celtic eye Gancarczyk and Guzan 
 
Defender Seweryn Gancarczyk (left) and keeper Brad Guzan 
Celtic have taken two players on trial at Lennoxtown with a view to completing deals before the transfer window closes on 31 January.
Polish international left-back Seweryn Gancarczyk is rated at £750,000 and has played most of his career in the Ukraine with Metalist Kharkiv.

Celtic have also invited American international goalkeeper Brad Guzan to their training headquarters next week.

Guzan, 23, is valued at about £1m and has played four times for the USA.




Story taken from BBC, does anyone know anything about these two boys??


 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on January 22, 2008, 06:26:24 PM
Celtic eye Gancarczyk and Guzan 
 
Defender Seweryn Gancarczyk (left) and keeper Brad Guzan 
Celtic have taken two players on trial at Lennoxtown with a view to completing deals before the transfer window closes on 31 January.
Polish international left-back Seweryn Gancarczyk is rated at £750,000 and has played most of his career in the Ukraine with Metalist Kharkiv.

Celtic have also invited American international goalkeeper Brad Guzan to their training headquarters next week.

Guzan, 23, is valued at about £1m and has played four times for the USA.




Story taken from BBC, does anyone know anything about these two boys??


 


Haven't heard much about either of them, but delighted to see us reinforcing in the full-back positions.  I don't reckon much to Naylor although apparently he's upped his performances a bit recently.  Guzan would be a strange signing given that Boruc has just signed a new deal and we have Brown on the bench (decent but not great keeper, what you'd expect really for your deputy).
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 23, 2008, 11:17:04 AM
Celtic eye Gancarczyk and Guzan 
 
Defender Seweryn Gancarczyk (left) and keeper Brad Guzan 
Celtic have taken two players on trial at Lennoxtown with a view to completing deals before the transfer window closes on 31 January.
Polish international left-back Seweryn Gancarczyk is rated at £750,000 and has played most of his career in the Ukraine with Metalist Kharkiv.

Celtic have also invited American international goalkeeper Brad Guzan to their training headquarters next week.

Guzan, 23, is valued at about £1m and has played four times for the USA.




Story taken from BBC, does anyone know anything about these two boys??


 


Haven't heard much about either of them, but delighted to see us reinforcing in the full-back positions.  I don't reckon much to Naylor although apparently he's upped his performances a bit recently.  Guzan would be a strange signing given that Boruc has just signed a new deal and we have Brown on the bench (decent but not great keeper, what you'd expect really for your deputy).



Was at Parkhead last Saturday for the Killie match (absolutely pish game), Naylor was dreadful, general consensus amoung the terraces is that he's not up to standard.
It's good to see that he is looking at the defense though, can't wait to see if this young fella Mizuno is as good as being said.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on January 23, 2008, 05:33:42 PM
Celtic eye Gancarczyk and Guzan 
 
Defender Seweryn Gancarczyk (left) and keeper Brad Guzan 
Celtic have taken two players on trial at Lennoxtown with a view to completing deals before the transfer window closes on 31 January.
Polish international left-back Seweryn Gancarczyk is rated at £750,000 and has played most of his career in the Ukraine with Metalist Kharkiv.

Celtic have also invited American international goalkeeper Brad Guzan to their training headquarters next week.

Guzan, 23, is valued at about £1m and has played four times for the USA.




Story taken from BBC, does anyone know anything about these two boys??


 


Haven't heard much about either of them, but delighted to see us reinforcing in the full-back positions.  I don't reckon much to Naylor although apparently he's upped his performances a bit recently.  Guzan would be a strange signing given that Boruc has just signed a new deal and we have Brown on the bench (decent but not great keeper, what you'd expect really for your deputy).



Was at Parkhead last Saturday for the Killie match (absolutely pish game), Naylor was dreadful, general consensus amoung the terraces is that he's not up to standard.
It's good to see that he is looking at the defense though, can't wait to see if this young fella Mizuno is as good as being said.

I think he's crap too, I'd love to see % statistics for how many times in a game he actually finds someone in his own team with a pass or cross, it would be absolutely shocking. 

Only saw brief highlights on Setanta of the game, McDonald looked sharp.  Who else played well?  Think Strachan got a bit carried away with his praise of the team's performance by the looks of the wee bit I saw!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 23, 2008, 10:04:17 PM
Celtic eye Gancarczyk and Guzan 
 
Defender Seweryn Gancarczyk (left) and keeper Brad Guzan 
Celtic have taken two players on trial at Lennoxtown with a view to completing deals before the transfer window closes on 31 January.
Polish international left-back Seweryn Gancarczyk is rated at £750,000 and has played most of his career in the Ukraine with Metalist Kharkiv.

Celtic have also invited American international goalkeeper Brad Guzan to their training headquarters next week.

Guzan, 23, is valued at about £1m and has played four times for the USA.




Story taken from BBC, does anyone know anything about these two boys??


 


Haven't heard much about either of them, but delighted to see us reinforcing in the full-back positions.  I don't reckon much to Naylor although apparently he's upped his performances a bit recently.  Guzan would be a strange signing given that Boruc has just signed a new deal and we have Brown on the bench (decent but not great keeper, what you'd expect really for your deputy).



Was at Parkhead last Saturday for the Killie match (absolutely pish game), Naylor was dreadful, general consensus amoung the terraces is that he's not up to standard.
It's good to see that he is looking at the defense though, can't wait to see if this young fella Mizuno is as good as being said.

I think he's crap too, I'd love to see % statistics for how many times in a game he actually finds someone in his own team with a pass or cross, it would be absolutely shocking. 

Only saw brief highlights on Setanta of the game, McDonald looked sharp.  Who else played well?  Think Strachan got a bit carried away with his praise of the team's performance by the looks of the wee bit I saw!


Scott Brown was the only one who stood out for me, should have been Celtic's MotM
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: seanf on January 27, 2008, 09:28:37 PM
the whole team were absolutely shocking today! :'(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Orior on January 27, 2008, 10:11:32 PM
Aye, with TG4 out of whack, I had the misfortune of watching this game on Setanta. Pish, drivel, crap and more drivel and more crap. Cant see them hoops winning anything.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 28, 2008, 10:34:46 AM
Aye, with TG4 out of whack, I had the misfortune of watching this game on Setanta. Pish, drivel, crap and more drivel and more crap. Cant see them hoops winning anything.



The team have seriously gone off the boil at the minute, last couple of games have been sh*te.
The thing is though, points mean prizes, crap match, one goal but three points in the bag!

The team are hopefully getting all their bad matches out of the way now!  :-\
With Barca coming up in less then a month and tough away games against Motherwell and Aberdeen and away in the Scottish cup and at home against Hearts before this game, the next 4 weeks could well decide the season for us!

On the plus side, Naka's back, McGeady's back, Skippy still scoring, Brown playing class, hopefully Hinkel getting a full 90 mins, the immenient arrival of Mizuno and poss arrival of Guzan then things could be alot worse.

Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on January 28, 2008, 10:51:56 AM
things need to improve big time and hopefully soon.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on January 28, 2008, 11:00:15 AM
The side could do with a bit of genuine pace in attack, going forward the team is just too ponderous at the minute.  Celtic will need to improve before the rearranged home rangers fixture, that will be the most important Old Firm in a few seasons and a must-win for the Hoops.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 28, 2008, 11:08:39 AM
The side could do with a bit of genuine pace in attack, going forward the team is just too ponderous at the minute.  Celtic will need to improve before the rearranged home rangers fixture, that will be the most important Old Firm in a few seasons and a must-win for the Hoops.



Quite Rav, but the league could be a distant memory by the time of the re-scheduled OF match!
Yesterdays performance was dire, but lets not forget that Falkirk put in a great performance, it's difficult to play against a team which is defending with 8-9 men for most of the match!
Thought Naylor had another poor game as well.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: red hander on January 28, 2008, 06:06:29 PM
Apparently Kyle Lafferty has agreed to sign in deal worth over 3m with Riordan going the other way to Burnley
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: slow corner back on January 28, 2008, 07:57:45 PM
Apparently Kyle Lafferty has agreed to sign in deal worth over 3m with Riordan going the other way to Burnley
Is that a piss take????
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on January 28, 2008, 08:58:02 PM
Apparently Kyle Lafferty has agreed to sign in deal worth over 3m with Riordan going the other way to Burnley
Is that a piss take????

Nothing about it on F365 but he was linked last year, and although he was/is a Rangers fan he said he'd be honoured to join such a great club.  Personally, I don't see how we need him when we already have Hesselink and Killen as tall targetmen strikers and he's not going to start ahead of Hesselink anyway.  Would be a real test for how much things have moved on at Windsor Park though if he did sign, it'd be interesting to see how the crowd would receive him at NI matches.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on January 29, 2008, 11:03:38 AM
Check PM Gaoth Dobhair if ye get a chance
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: red hander on January 29, 2008, 11:32:17 AM
No pisstake.  He's keen to go, Celtic have apparently offered £2.7m plus Riordan (= £3.2m) but Burnley are holding out for another £800,000. 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 29, 2008, 11:39:45 AM
No pisstake.  He's keen to go, Celtic have apparently offered £2.7m plus Riordan (= £3.2m) but Burnley are holding out for another £800,000. 


Heard this yesterday, nearly started crying!
WTF do we need another target man up front, have JVOH and Killen, and Killen like Lavatory has only scored a couple of goals this season.
The wee p***k was courted last season and stuck the single digit up to the Hoops when somebody else came in - fcuk him, we don't need a Burnley reject!! a striker who can't f**king score - brilliant!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on January 29, 2008, 12:05:07 PM
Did lafferty stick the finger up at celtic - I thought he said it would be an honour, but burnley rebutted the offer celtic made for him.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Evil Genius on January 29, 2008, 12:18:08 PM
The wee p***k was courted last season and stuck the single digit up to the Hoops when somebody else came in - fcuk him, we don't need a Burnley reject!!

1. Lafferty said he'd readily consider playing for a "big club" like Celtic (I think Nifan is correct that he used the word "honour");
2. Far from being a Burnley reject, the only reason he hasn't already moved to Celtic, Wolves or Fulham (all of whom bid for him), was because the Clarets want to keep him, so won't budge from their valuation;
3. Burnley sold another forward (Andy Gray) last week, so if anything, they're even less likely to sell Lafferty (unless the money's right).

Apart from that, though, you make a good point... :D

Oh, and far from being "wee", he's 6' 4" and built to match.  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: red hander on January 29, 2008, 12:40:56 PM
Samaris is coming on loan apparently, and it looks like that Japanese lad they were courting (Mizuno?) is on his way too
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on January 29, 2008, 12:42:07 PM
Havent thought much of samaras, but have heard good things about the other fella
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on January 29, 2008, 12:53:04 PM
What EG says is true, he would have been happy to move to Celtic or an EPL club last year but Burnley were asing £6m(!) for him.  He's not worth £3m IMO and certainly not the type of striker Celtic need so I hope he doesn't sign.  Strachan seems to think you always have to play with at least one tall and immobile forward for some annoying reason.

Samaras has been no great shakes in the Prem apart from when he first signed, but Man City paid £6m for him from Heerenveen (a lot of money when you think of other bargan signings from the Dutch Eridivisie) so he must have shown something there.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on January 29, 2008, 01:22:21 PM
When you compare the present team with the first team 5 years ago I see only 2 real improvements, the outstanding Boruc and Nakamura. Brown replaces Petrov, McGeady is a survivor and defintly a better player now.
 Overall the team is getting poorer, except for Boruc they would be already dead.

In fact if you took only Boruc from the present team and put him in MON's team how things would have been different

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on January 29, 2008, 01:28:34 PM
Rav, id agree with you that he may not be what they need, though he has been playing on the wing most of this season - he is not immobile. his current biggest problems are the fact he jumps with his elbows out(causing plenty of frees) and his first touch ranges from the sublime to the ridiculous. I would have thought celtic should have gone after someone like Baros personally.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on January 29, 2008, 01:41:17 PM


In fact if you took only Boruc from the present team and put him in MON's team how things would have been different



celtic would definitely have qualified for the latter stages of the champions league a few times before they eventually did - no doubt about it. the uefa cup final as well against porto would have went to penalties if it werent for douglas. and a keeper like boruc would have been ideal for the penalty shootout. the mistakes that rab douglas and hedman made in europe were shocking.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 29, 2008, 01:42:24 PM
When you compare the present team with the first team 5 years ago I see only 2 real improvements, the outstanding Boruc and Nakamura. Brown replaces Petrov, McGeady is a survivor and defintly a better player now.
 Overall the team is getting poorer, except for Boruc they would be already dead.

In fact if you took only Boruc from the present team and put him in MON's team how things would have been different



You forget McDonald, he's playing very well and IMO he would have been in MON's team.
It's ok to look back at MON's team and say that they were fantastic, they were, but WGS has had to come in and practically build a new team, two league titles, last 16 in CL etc... think he's doing ok to date, yes the performances have been poor this year and the team do not play attractive football and WGS does things which annoy/freak/worry the fcuk out of me (Sno, Sno, Sno) but we are still in the last 16 and still have a chance of winning 3 leagues in a row (for what I believe would only be the third/fourth time in our history!), also still in the SCup.

EG did Lavatory also not come out with some bullshit excuse about getting "hassle" if he were to sign for Celtic? Funnily enough it was about the time Fulham came a sniffing!
"Wee" is a local term used to describe many shaped things big and small - as you are well aware of.  ::)

Three goals in 24 appearances for Burnley this season - one million a goal FFS!!  ::)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on January 29, 2008, 01:53:06 PM
Hopefully Lafferty will be the final nail in WGS coffin at Celtic Park.

You begin to wonder if the board actually trust him with cash...........

Mo Camara
Paul Telfer
Du Wei
JVoH (1 good season)
Gary Caldwell
Stephen Pressley
Mark Wilson (1 good season if you added up all his games)
Mark Brown
Maciej Zurawski (1 good season)
Adam Virgo
Dion Dublin
Lee Naylor (1 good season)
Paul Hartley
Kenny Miller
Tommy G
Jiri Jarosik
Evander Sno
Deek Riordan

Lets be honest, football at CP has been p*ss poor since the middle of last season and evn before that is was passable at best.


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You forget McDonald, he's playing very well and IMO he would have been in MON's team

Ahead of who? Henke, Sutton or Hartson?????
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 29, 2008, 01:56:41 PM
How could you include Mark Wilson in that list, the poor sods been injured most of his time at Celtic!  :)

Would agree with alot of the list though, but am wondering how many of those on the list cost us a transfer fee??
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on January 29, 2008, 02:03:58 PM
Transfer fee  or not they take up space and wages.

But it has to be said up until Celtic, Strachan had a good record and showed a good profit from buying and selling on.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 29, 2008, 02:16:45 PM
Transfer fee  or not they take up space and wages.

But it has to be said up until Celtic, Strachan had a good record and showed a good profit from buying and selling on.



Agreed, but if we could off-load Bobo and Gravesen we could save a fortune! Would probably have enough for Kaka's wages!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Evil Genius on January 29, 2008, 02:18:29 PM
EG did Lavatory also not come out with some bullshit excuse about getting "hassle" if he were to sign for Celtic? Funnily enough it was about the time Fulham came a sniffing!
"Wee" is a local term used to describe many shaped things big and small - as you are well aware of.  ::)

Nope! In fact, he was asked did he anticipate any hassle if he signed for Celtic (seeing as he is a Rangers supporting NI player) and he said if he did, he wouldn't let it put him off. Rather, he was more concerned about whether it would be a good career move for him at this stage, about which he'd need to speak to his family. (He was only 18 or 19 at the time, after all).
Frankly, if he should sign, I doubt whether it would be a problem, but if it was, it might even be the Celtic fans who have more of a problem than NI fans, if your (misguided) post is anything to go by.

Three goals in 24 appearances for Burnley this season

Although I don't think Lafferty will ever be prolific, that's not really why Celtic and others are interested. Rather, he's expected to develop into a big target man who will set up chances for his fellow strikers, whilst weighing in with his own share. As for his tally this season, that's not representative, since with Burnley already having Gray, Blake and Akinbiyii, both Cotterill and Coyle have been picking Laff on the left side of midfield, from where goalscoring chances are obviously more limited.

one million a goal FFS!!  ::)

Here's a "Goal in a Million" for you then:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mOBTMM6Sanc&feature=related
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 29, 2008, 02:27:20 PM
EG did Lavatory also not come out with some bullshit excuse about getting "hassle" if he were to sign for Celtic? Funnily enough it was about the time Fulham came a sniffing!
"Wee" is a local term used to describe many shaped things big and small - as you are well aware of.  ::)

Nope! In fact, he was asked did he anticipate any hassle if he signed for Celtic (seeing as he is a Rangers supporting NI player) and he said if he did, he wouldn't let it put him off. Rather, he was more concerned about whether it would be a good career move for him at this stage, about which he'd need to speak to his family. (He was only 18 or 19 at the time, after all).
Frankly, if he should sign, I doubt whether it would be a problem, but if it was, it might even be the Celtic fans who have more of a problem than NI fans, if your (misguided) post is anything to go by.

Three goals in 24 appearances for Burnley this season

Although I don't think Lafferty will ever be prolific, that's not really why Celtic and others are interested. Rather, he's expected to develop into a big target man who will set up chances for his fellow strikers, whilst weighing in with his own share. As for his tally this season, that's not representative, since with Burnley already having Gray, Blake and Akinbiyii, both Cotterill and Coyle have been picking Laff on the left side of midfield, from where goalscoring chances are obviously more limited.

one million a goal FFS!!  ::)

Here's a "Goal in a Million" for you then:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mOBTMM6Sanc&feature=related


I have no problem with who he supports or plays football for (as long as its not us) the problem i have is that he's shite! Unproven as a goal scorer and a joke at 3 million.
BTW your attempt at tarring Celtic fans as the same as Six counties fans shows that you have no understanding of Celtic fans, religion was never an issue with the team.

Lavatorys record at Burnley in his 3 seasons - 76 appearances - 8 goals!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on January 29, 2008, 02:30:54 PM
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the problem i have is that he's shite!

How much do you actually know about him?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 29, 2008, 02:37:01 PM
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the problem i have is that he's shite!

How much do you actually know about him?


Lavatorys record at Burnley in his 3 seasons - 76 appearances - 8 goals!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on January 29, 2008, 03:01:04 PM
Lavatory - do you think its funny when you keep writing it :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on January 29, 2008, 03:02:28 PM
Hopefully Lafferty will be the final nail in WGS coffin at Celtic Park.

You begin to wonder if the board actually trust him with cash...........

Mo Camara
Paul Telfer
Du Wei
JVoH (1 good season)
Gary Caldwell
Stephen Pressley
Mark Wilson (1 good season if you added up all his games)
Mark Brown
Maciej Zurawski (1 good season)
Adam Virgo
Dion Dublin
Lee Naylor (1 good season)
Paul Hartley
Kenny Miller
Tommy G
Jiri Jarosik
Evander Sno
Deek Riordan

Lets be honest, football at CP has been p*ss poor since the middle of last season and evn before that is was passable at best.


I think from what i remember re their transfer fees that this entire list cost in the region of £15m (there or thereabouts anyway).  Add in Boruc, Scott Brown, Skippy, Naka, Donati, Hinkel who cost about £13m and you get a picture of how low Strachan's net sepnding has been, taking into account that he had to offload the againg mainstays of MON's team for free or on miniscule fees (eg Thompson, McNamara, Sutton, Hartson, Lennon).  O'Neill was able to spend big to buy the likes of these players and Valgaren fr example.  Don't get me wrong what O'Neill did at Celtic was amazing, turning the club into the domestic pacesetter and establishing the club on the European front once again, but Strachan has also done a good job.

As for entertainment, I think the football was good in the first season but it has become prett awful to watch in the past while.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 29, 2008, 03:13:29 PM
Lavatory - do you think its funny when you keep writing it :D


Nah, just keeps reminding me that he's crap.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on January 29, 2008, 03:15:40 PM
Toilet humour...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on January 29, 2008, 03:16:42 PM
would you forget otherwise?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 29, 2008, 03:34:40 PM
would you forget otherwise?

With those stats - No!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on January 29, 2008, 03:59:12 PM
It would be a great deal for Burnley if they could get Riordan - a better player than Lafferty - and a decent transfer fee. Wouldnt be such a good bit of business for Celtic! I doubt it will happen anyway.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Evil Genius on January 29, 2008, 04:24:37 PM

BTW your attempt at tarring Celtic fans as the same as Six counties fans shows that you have no understanding of Celtic fans, religion was never an issue with the team.


Read what I posted, which was: "... it might even be the Celtic fans who have more of a problem than NI fans, if your (misguided) post is anything to go by"

I never actually mentioned (or believe) that Celtic fans would have a problem with Laff over his religion - I'm old enough to remember the likes of McGrain, Dalglish, Jock Stein etc (though not Bertie Peacock, for example), so I know there needn't be problems on that score.

Rather, I was referring to your false assertion about his giving the finger to Celtic, or the nonsence over hassle, or the childish name-calling (Lavatory) etc, when you clearly know little or nothing about him as a player or as an individual. As I indicated, if you are typical of Celtic fans in taking against someone on limited knowledge, then it is his club support which might cause problems should he move to Parkhead, not his international supporters.

As it happens, it is not just WGS, or successive Burnley bosses, who consider Laff to be a prospect. Mick McCathy is also very keen and he will know a fair bit about him, seeing as he's managing in the same division. On which point, if it should turn out that Laff is no more than a Championship player, then I honestly think that he would fit in well at Parkhead since, with the occasional exception (Larsson, Graveson, Boruc etc), the majority of Scottish Prem players are no better than the English Championship. Well, that's my opinion, anyhow.

P.S. I'm not a "Six county fan" [sic], I'm a Northern Ireland fan - do you not realise your childish insistence on using such terms only puts you in the company of idiots like Fearon?  ::)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 29, 2008, 04:29:08 PM
It would be a great deal for Burnley if they could get Riordan - a better player than Lafferty - and a decent transfer fee. Wouldnt be such a good bit of business for Celtic! I doubt it will happen anyway.
dunno
it looks like off field problems with Riordan have tainted strachans opinion of him and as a result, the lad hasnt had much of a chance for celtic.

would agree with you that it would be great business for burnley, laffertys 'scoring' record doesnt fill you with confidence (unless yer a hearts or rangers fan)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 29, 2008, 04:58:43 PM

BTW your attempt at tarring Celtic fans as the same as Six counties fans shows that you have no understanding of Celtic fans, religion was never an issue with the team.


Read what I posted, which was: "... it might even be the Celtic fans who have more of a problem than NI fans, if your (misguided) post is anything to go by"

I never actually mentioned (or believe) that Celtic fans would have a problem with Laff over his religion - I'm old enough to remember the likes of McGrain, Dalglish, Jock Stein etc (though not Bertie Peacock, for example), so I know there needn't be problems on that score.

Rather, I was referring to your false assertion about his giving the finger to Celtic, or the nonsence over hassle, or the childish name-calling (Lavatory) etc, when you clearly know little or nothing about him as a player or as an individual. As I indicated, if you are typical of Celtic fans in taking against someone on limited knowledge, then it is his club support which might cause problems should he move to Parkhead, not his international supporters.

As it happens, it is not just WGS, or successive Burnley bosses, who consider Laff to be a prospect. Mick McCathy is also very keen and he will know a fair bit about him, seeing as he's managing in the same division. On which point, if it should turn out that Laff is no more than a Championship player, then I honestly think that he would fit in well at Parkhead since, with the occasional exception (Larsson, Graveson, Boruc etc), the majority of Scottish Prem players are no better than the English Championship. Well, that's my opinion, anyhow.

P.S. I'm not a "Six county fan" [sic], I'm a Northern Ireland fan - do you not realise your childish insistence on using such terms only puts you in the company of idiots like Fearon?  ::)


My dislike of Lavatory/Lafferty has nothing to do with the young fella, as I know about him other then his stats for his club.
My distain rather is towards the prospect of my team making a massive and costly mistake in signing him. And by calling him a shite player, I stand by that!
My use of the Lavatory handle (no pun intended) was to empathsis my thought on the boy as a soccer player, not on him as a person - although I'm sure he will not be losing any sleep over what he's called here!
As for what you call yourself, I really don't give a flying fcuk, I don't called this place "northern" Ireland, as its not, unless you include Donegal, Sligo, Leitrim and Monaghan, all of which have areas more northernly then parts of the six counties.

As for who I have or haven't seen playing for Celtic, well lets just say it's a long and comprehensive list, which I'm not going to go into here.

Hope that clears things up for you.

Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Evil Genius on January 29, 2008, 05:59:09 PM
As for what you call yourself, I really don't give a flying fcuk, I don't called this place "northern" Ireland, as its not, unless you include Donegal, Sligo, Leitrim and Monaghan, all of which have areas more northernly then parts of the six counties.

Hope that clears things up for you.

Hail Hail

It's not a question of Geography, or even Politics - the name of the football team is "Northern Ireland".

Hope that clears things up for you.

Onwards and Upwards
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Evil Genius on January 29, 2008, 07:28:10 PM

The wee p***k was courted last season and stuck the single digit up to the Hoops when somebody else came in - fcuk him, we don't need a Burnley reject!!

Lafferty sticks another two fingers up..........................  to GDA!  ;)



Teamtalk.com

Bhoys linked with £6m double swoop
Celtic have reportedly tabled bids totalling almost £6million for Burnley striker Kyle Lafferty and Manchester City frontman Georgios Samaras.

The Greece international had looked set to join Rangers on loan but is now apparently due at Parkhead for a medical and to discuss terms.

Samaras cost City £6million when they signed him from Heerenveen, but he has fallen down the pecking order under Sven-Goran Eriksson and is looking to move to boost his chances of playing at Euro 2008.

He told the Daily Record: "At this moment I need to find somewhere to play football. I have the European Championship this summer and I need to play games before then.

"I would be happy to go to Scotland. I would not have any problem with leaving the Premier League - playing football is the main thing for me."

Celtic are also said to be hopeful of signing Lafferty before the transfer window shuts.

And a source close to the player said: "Kyle is very keen to get this move but only if the clubs can agree.

"He knows how big Celtic are and that it would be a wonderful opportunity for him.

"Kyle knows all about the offer and is waiting to find out if Burnley want to accept. He's excited about the possibility and we'll all know soon enough.

"Celtic's offer is a new one and it's also a good one and the fact they are trying again to get him shows how much they rate him.

"This would be a good move and the offer being made should also please Burnley but we'll see within the next couple of days."




Bhoy oh Bhoy Kyle
Lafferty set to seal his dream move to Celtic
Tuesday, January 29, 2008
By Graham Luney
Belfast Telegraph

Northern Ireland international Kyle Lafferty is on the brink of sealing a dream move to Scottish Premier League giants Celtic.

Lafferty had become the focus of an Old Firm tug-of-war during the January transfer window but Celtic are close to getting their man.

The Hoops have kept the 20-year-old hitman under their microscope and Parkhead boss Gordon Strachan has found the extra cash he needs to snap up the rising star.

Strachan bid £500,000 for Lafferty last January but the Burnley board are now willing to let their promising young talent leave for a higher fee.

Lafferty is a big Rangers fan but he would still love to pull on the Hoops jersey.

He said: "Celtic are a huge club and I'm honoured to be the subject of a bid. I grew up supporting Rangers but that wouldn't stand in my way."

Strachan has been impressed by Lafferty's performances on the international stage and the Kesh man knows a switch to Glasgow could greatly enhance his Northern Ireland prospects.

Lawrie Sanchez was keen to bring Lafferty to Fulham but his exit from Craven Cottage left Celtic in pole position to land their target.

Burnley boss Owen Coyle is reluctant to sell his prized asset but an offer of around £2million would not be turned down



Kyle Kyle Hail Hail    :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 29, 2008, 07:41:27 PM
If he does sign, it'll be a good test at Windsor to see how far the FFA campaign has come.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on January 29, 2008, 07:53:03 PM
If he does sign, it'll be a good test at Windsor to see how far the FFA campaign has come.

Good point AZ, but like the Munich silence coming up it only takes one or two t**sers to taint a larger group.

From a Celtic point of view I think this signing would not be good business, he looks too much like Jan Venison of hasselbaink to me in his play.  Celtic need another top notch goal scorer to take some of the heat of McDonald.  This is an established Chapmions League team after all. 
Celtic bashing is all too easy, Celtic and rangers will always be victims of their own success in the SPL.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: corn02 on January 29, 2008, 10:22:20 PM
Actually think it would be a great signing for the Hoops. He is  young, strong and looks full of potential. In a few years I would expect him to be an excellent striker. Certainly good enough for Celtic.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on January 29, 2008, 10:34:42 PM
Good enough for Celtic V Barcelona?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: corn02 on January 29, 2008, 11:17:36 PM
Well if McDonald, Hessilink et al struggle to see off the likes of Falkirk, Kilmarnock etc it is safe to say they are not on a level par with Barcelona.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 29, 2008, 11:21:16 PM
I see "Magic" has signed for a team over here
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on January 30, 2008, 01:09:52 AM
Well if McDonald, Hessilink et al struggle to see off the likes of Falkirk, Kilmarnock etc it is safe to say they are not on a level par with Barcelona.
That was not the question.
Celtic are not on a par with Milan either, thats friggin obvious and not relevant.
Sounds like you are being dismissive of an SPL team having the audacity to even compete in the CL, never mind aspire to get past the last 16. 

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: corn02 on January 30, 2008, 01:32:09 AM
So what was the question?> If it was is he good enough for Celtic v barcelona my answer would be yes. There is no striker at the club that would get neat the Camp Nou, and I believe Lafferty would be as good as what Celtic have at the moment. So therefore he is good enough for the game but like all the Celtic players he is a mile off Barcelona standards.

I would love to see Cetlic progess, but if they did not even the most blinkered fan could claim they were on a level bar with Barcelona. Soit is friggin relevant.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 30, 2008, 10:04:29 AM
So what was the question?> If it was is he good enough for Celtic v barcelona my answer would be yes. There is no striker at the club that would get neat the Camp Nou, and I believe Lafferty would be as good as what Celtic have at the moment. So therefore he is good enough for the game but like all the Celtic players he is a mile off Barcelona standards.

I would love to see Cetlic progess, but if they did not even the most blinkered fan could claim they were on a level bar with Barcelona. Soit is friggin relevant.



For fcuk sake, read a few posts back, the lad has played in 76 matches for Burnley and has only scored 8 goals, piss poor record for a striker!!
We ave f**king midfielders who have scored more this season.
Skippy 19 goals so far this season, JVOH 11 goals this season, McGeady 9 goals so far this season!
So to answer your question, NO he is not good enough for Celtic!  ::)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on January 30, 2008, 10:31:16 AM
thats a lot of goals scored for a team that is still poor in supplying decent or enough ball into scoring positions (low or high)

I still think its madness going after strikers when the prob is at left back and centre half (now that the right full back problem has been more than solved by the addition of hinkel)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 30, 2008, 10:52:44 AM
If he does sign, it'll be a good test at Windsor to see how far the FFA campaign has come.

Making no comment or giving any opinions of what Kyle could have meant, I would like to point out the following.

A year ago, when a transfer to Celtic was first mooted, Kyle said that if he signed for Celtic there could be uproar and he would have to consider his international career. A year on, he is confident enough to say that whilst aware [of] what happened to Neil Lennon when he joined Celtic from Leicester City, he is also aware those days are gone now, thankfully.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on January 30, 2008, 11:06:49 AM
Samaras has been signed on loan I suppose that puts an end to the speculation about a massive splurge on a young player with possible potential like Lafferty.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: AZOffaly on January 30, 2008, 11:09:17 AM
If he does sign, it'll be a good test at Windsor to see how far the FFA campaign has come.

Making no comment or giving any opinions of what Kyle could have meant, I would like to point out the following.

A year ago, when a transfer to Celtic was first mooted, Kyle said that if he signed for Celtic there could be uproar and he would have to consider his international career. A year on, he is confident enough to say that whilst aware [of] what happened to Neil Lennon when he joined Celtic from Leicester City, he is also aware those days are gone now, thankfully.

I would think the same thing. I think the FFA supporters should be hopeful that Lafferty goes to Celtic. It would be a good chance for them to show how much things have changed. I'm sure there would be a portion of numbskulls who would boo him or abuse him, but they'd probably be the exception that proves the rule. I can't imagine there would be significant booing or abuse.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 30, 2008, 11:21:13 AM
Look lads, he ain't coming.
Don't know about future "potential", but he's had 3 seasons at Burnley and is still a mediocre player.
Glad to hear Samaras is coming on loan, could have been another costly buy for little return, at least now we can see if he can do the business before we buy.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on January 30, 2008, 11:23:31 AM
possible future potential  :)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 30, 2008, 11:37:10 AM
possible future potential  :)

Fair enough.  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 30, 2008, 02:08:47 PM
Hutton signed for Spurs - confirmed! Class news, hopefully Walter Smith will go out and panick buy a couple of crap players before the deadline.

Never thought he was worth 9 million though!

Huns should have held onto him til the Summer - obviously i'm not complaining!  ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on January 30, 2008, 02:14:26 PM
I heard they had to pay him £1m (loyalty!) just to get rid of him and get the Spurs cash.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on January 30, 2008, 02:16:26 PM
Thats a lot of money for a full back.
Ive not seen much of him, is he really that good?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 30, 2008, 02:23:39 PM
Thats a lot of money for a full back.
Ive not seen much of him, is he really that good?

Only seen him play once, he seemed very good going forward at least! - Very expensive IMO.

Time will tell!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 30, 2008, 02:26:23 PM
Thats a lot of money for a full back.
Ive not seen much of him, is he really that good?


One of their best players, thats why I'm glad to see him go!  :)
He also played with his heart on his sleeve - something I respect in a player.
But 9 million was terrible business by the Spuds! Possibily 4-5 million, but he's only had one good season, last year looked like they were going to get rid of him.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on January 30, 2008, 03:59:55 PM
Thats a lot of money for a full back.
Ive not seen much of him, is he really that good?

Its not long at all since Hutton was a figure of fun in Scottish football and was looked upon as the next Maurice Ross (ie full back who broke into the Rangers team at a young age, got some good press then got full of himself and ended up being hounded out of Ibrox into obscurity). Hutton however came back from a serious leg injury like a new player and has been in fantastic form. His driving runs forward were key to Rangers beating Leverkusen in the Champions League and his performance for Scotland against Italy was superb, showing them no respect at all and making a mess of their left flank. Same kind of gallus attitude the likes of Scott Brown and James McFadden have shown. The problem of course is the defensive side of his game where he is only competent and nothing more. He will need to work on that and good EPL wingers will cause him bother I would say. Bombing forward though he has the potential to do very well.

Great deal for Rangers, £9m in and a ready made and very competent replacement already there in Steven Whitaker.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Solomon Kane on January 30, 2008, 05:47:41 PM
If he does sign, it'll be a good test at Windsor to see how far the FFA campaign has come.

Making no comment or giving any opinions of what Kyle could have meant, I would like to point out the following.

A year ago, when a transfer to Celtic was first mooted, Kyle said that if he signed for Celtic there could be uproar and he would have to consider his international career. A year on, he is confident enough to say that whilst aware [of] what happened to Neil Lennon when he joined Celtic from Leicester City, he is also aware those days are gone now, thankfully.

It would be a no win situation for the GAWA. If Lafferty got booed by even a tiny minority the whole crowd would be tainted. If he didn't get booed it would only be because "he was a prod". I feckin hate the Old Firm.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Evil Genius on January 30, 2008, 07:12:37 PM
Making no comment or giving any opinions of what Kyle could have meant, I would like to point out the following.

A year ago, when a transfer to Celtic was first mooted, Kyle said that if he signed for Celtic there could be uproar and he would have to consider his international career.

Bollocks. Here is what he said in January 07, when Celtic first approached Burnley:


And the youngster has indicated that he would welcome a move to Glasgow.

"Celtic are a huge club and I'm honoured to be the subject of a bid," Lafferty told BBC Sport when the approach was first revealed.

Lafferty has bagged four league goals for Burnley this season, making 11 starts and 13 appearances as a substitute.

"Obviously there's a long way to go but I'll be talking to my club and my agent," added Lafferty, who moved to Turf Moor from NFC Kesh in the summer of 2004.

"I'll also have to have a long chat with my mum and dad.

"Celtic are massive and the lure of European football is very appealing."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/6267003.stm

No mention whatever of "uproar", nor any threat to the international career of one of the proudest players to wear the green shirt.


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on January 30, 2008, 07:21:46 PM
Match tonight postponed
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Evil Genius on January 30, 2008, 07:24:08 PM
It would be a no win situation for the GAWA. If Lafferty got booed by even a tiny minority the whole crowd would be tainted. If he didn't get booed it would only be because "he was a prod". I feckin hate the Old Firm.

Agree with your general comment on the Old Firm, SK, but I'd be very confident that if a few meatheads did start booing him at Windsor, they'd be immediately be drowned out by a chorus of "We All Dream of a Team of Laffertys" (or somesuch) from the GAWA.

I can't really decide whether it would be a good move for Kyle, or whether he'd be better staying with Burnley. I guess it all depends on what Strachan has in mind i.e. whether he expects to play him regularly soon after he joins, including in the big games (preferable), or whether he is "one for the future", who may take a couple more seasons to get established, before eventually being sold back to England at a profit (might as well stay at Burnley).

Either way, if he should decide to join Celtic, he will continue to receive my 100% support.  
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on January 30, 2008, 07:28:46 PM
Making no comment or giving any opinions of what Kyle could have meant, I would like to point out the following.

A year ago, when a transfer to Celtic was first mooted, Kyle said that if he signed for Celtic there could be uproar and he would have to consider his international career.

Bollocks. Here is what he said in January 07, when Celtic first approached Burnley:


And the youngster has indicated that he would welcome a move to Glasgow.

"Celtic are a huge club and I'm honoured to be the subject of a bid," Lafferty told BBC Sport when the approach was first revealed.

Lafferty has bagged four league goals for Burnley this season, making 11 starts and 13 appearances as a substitute.

"Obviously there's a long way to go but I'll be talking to my club and my agent," added Lafferty, who moved to Turf Moor from NFC Kesh in the summer of 2004.

"I'll also have to have a long chat with my mum and dad.

"Celtic are massive and the lure of European football is very appealing."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/6267003.stm

No mention whatever of "uproar", nor any threat to the international career of one of the proudest players to wear the green shirt.




Are you forgetting the 'life in danger' and 'uproar' argument, you had with SS2? If so, I'll refresh your memory.

So Lafferty now says he won't play for Celtic because his life would be in danger in Ireland.

Where is your source for this?
His source is, as they say, the man himself.  Here's how the Irish News reported things yesterday.

Quote
CELTIC have been told they must up their offer for Burnley teenager Kyle Lafferty while the Northern Ireland striker expressed fears for his international future over a potential move to the Scottish champions.

The Hoops had offered £500,000 for the Kesh native, but Championship side Burnley value him at £6 million, which is likely to scupper Gordon Strachan’s interest in the player.

However, Lafferty himself seems to be cool on the prospect of joining the club. Previous Celtic and Northern Ireland players Anton Rogan and Neil Lennon have found their international careers cut short by constant abuse from Northern Ireland fans.

In Lennon’s case, he quit the Northern Ireland team after receiving a death threat before a game with Cyprus in 2002.

Lafferty, who revealed he followed Rangers in his younger years, says he would have to consider the impact a move to Celtic would have on his international career.

‘‘I’m shocked about the interest from Celtic. I have to talk to my mum and dad about it,” he said.

“There could be uproar and I have to consider my international career. I’m not sure if it will but I hope not. I will keep my fingers crossed.”


However, Lafferty, who scored his first Northern Ireland goal against Finland in a friendly last August, admits that a move to Celtic would represent a huge step up in his career.

“The Scottish league is a good standard and Celtic are a great club.

“I knew they were watching me about a month ago but I didn’t think they would make a bid. It would be a great achievement for me to play in the Champions League with them,” he said.

IFA president Jim Boyce has insisted that Lafferty should not face any adverse treatment should he opt for a move to the Glasgow club.

“I hold Kyle in the highest regard and he has a great future in the game.

“He has made a great contribution in the short time he has been in the Northern Ireland team,” said Boyce.

But all that could prove irrelevant if Celtic and Burnley cannot come to an agreement over the player’s value.

Gordon Strachan is keen to land a striker having lost out on Anthony Stokes, who preferred a move to Roy Keane’s Sunderland.

But Clarets manager Steve Cotterill insists that Lafferty will not be leaving on the cheap, if at all.

“The bid that has been made for Kyle is nowhere near acceptable,” said Cotterill.

“With those words we are not encouraging anyone to come back with a bigger bid because he is not for sale.”

“Even if we were to sell Kyle, the offer Celtic made wouldn’t even be close to our starting valuation for a player of Kyle’s undoubted potential.”

“Look at David Nugent at Preston. They value him at around £6million. Kyle is two years younger and is a full international, so you would have to put the same value on him - if not more.”

If he fails to land Lafferty, Strachan may turn his attention to the other end of the age spectrum and attempt a swoop for Sheffield United’s veteran striker, Geoff Horsfield.

Hope this helps.


Now, the word uproar has appeared. Quite forgetful, EG.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: stiffler on January 30, 2008, 07:34:19 PM
Seems like selective editing there EG  :o
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on January 30, 2008, 08:12:44 PM
Now, that is funny.
Title: Hook, line, sinker. TBF the whole heap
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 30, 2008, 08:24:50 PM
Not that often it happens quite so well. From my dealings over the years with owcers, I have learned that one must have evidence before one makes a claims. Any claims made about NI soccer related themes will be dissected and if possible rubbished - which is right and proper if said claim is false.

So when I typed:
Kyle said that if he signed for Celtic there could be uproar and he would have to consider his international career.
that was because I knew I could go to the Irish News website and download the following quote as acceptable evidence.
Quote
“There could be uproar and I have to consider my international career. "

I even went as far as copying the original post and replacing the word I with He and the word my with his.

Same, incidentally for the second attributed quote in my post, by the way.

All that time you spend typing really slowly (for my benefit apparently) could be better spent on a little thinking.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Evil Genius on January 30, 2008, 08:31:00 PM
Seems like selective editing there EG  :o

Not quite - i cited the BBC link for people to read in its entirety.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Evil Genius on January 30, 2008, 09:07:30 PM
Not that often it happens quite so well. From my dealings over the years with owcers, I have learned that one must have evidence before one makes a claims. Any claims made about NI soccer related themes will be dissected and if possible rubbished - which is right and proper if said claim is false.

So when I typed:
Kyle said that if he signed for Celtic there could be uproar and he would have to consider his international career.
that was because I knew I could go to the Irish News website and download the following quote as acceptable evidence.
Quote
“There could be uproar and I have to consider my international career. "

I even went as far as copying the original post and replacing the word I with He and the word my with his.

Same, incidentally for the second attributed quote in my post, by the way.

All that time you spend typing really slowly (for my benefit apparently) could be better spent on a little thinking.



Well, my memory has let me down there, I'll admit (though I still don't see any evidence of "life in danger", now that Hard Station brings it up).

Perhaps I'd forgotten that Irish News article from the time the move was originally mooted, since in the 12 months since, there has been no actual backlash against Lafferty, nor threat to his international career etc, despite this link with Celtic emerging during the Summer and again this month?

Storm in a Teacup, methinks.

Anyhow, congratulations, SS2, for having caught me out. Tell me, now that we're opening up old posts, have you found any more evidence to back your claim about the IFA "forcing NI Nationalists to carry UK Passports"? You know, that dispute where our old friend Pat Ramsey claimed that the IFA was doing nothing to stand up to a FIFA Directive to that effect, when in fact they (IFA) managed to get an exemption for NI within a matter of weeks?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on January 30, 2008, 09:16:52 PM
All together now:

"What about Pat Ram-am-sey
What about Pat Ram-am-sey
What about Pat Ram-am-sey
What about Pat Ram-am-sey
What about Pat Ram-am-sey
What about Pat Ram-am-sey"

Remind me now, was he the boyo you posted a quote from that hinted he might be blaming FIFA and not the IFA and then I had to post his entire press release to show that you were at the selective quoting lark?

"What about Pat Ram-am-sey
What about Pat Ram-am-sey
What about Pat Ram-am-sey
What about Pat Ram-am-sey
What about Pat Ram-am-sey
What about Pat Ram-am-sey"
I think I was the last one of the two of us to post on that thread.  Feel free to dig it up and reply.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on January 30, 2008, 09:20:32 PM
SHOCK NEWS   only about a day or two late.

Lafferty is not signing for Celtic.

Understood?
An dtuigeann tú?




Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 31, 2008, 09:11:49 PM
SHOCK NEWS   only about a day or two late.

Lafferty is not signing for Celtic.

Understood?
An dtuigeann tú?


Good now thats been put to bed, on with more important things.

Celtic sign Barry Robsen - should prove to be a useful signing and cover.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/dundee_utd/7216434.stm





Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on January 31, 2008, 09:17:40 PM
How good is Robson? Know little of him.
Notice OWC's Steven Davis has joined Rangers
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on January 31, 2008, 09:35:53 PM
How good is Robson? Know little of him.
Notice OWC's Steven Davis has joined Rangers

Mate of mine who's a bluenose just texted me with the news about Davis, he's only on loan - not be losing to much sleep on that one.
Robson, has had a great year for the Arabs and is one of the main reasons their sitting third in the league.

Dundee Utd fans on BBC 606 are devastated
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on January 31, 2008, 09:42:47 PM
He's been one of the SPL's best players this season.  Has a lovely left foot and is handy at frees, good eye for goal and could play centre mid or wide left (probably the reason why Jarosik was let go).  He is 29/30 though as far as I know which would make me think if he was actually that good we'd have heard more about him before this season.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on January 31, 2008, 11:09:09 PM
Ireland u21 Jim O'Brien has gone on loan to Dundee as a sweetner for that deal.
Darron Gibson might play in the u21 v England in place of o"Brien.
O'Brien is highly thought of but has been a bit dissapointing when playing for Ireland.
That could be many things, not least being part of a crazy 3 man midfield formation in the home game against England.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on February 01, 2008, 12:14:11 AM
The Hoops have signed Ben Hutchinson from Boro for 250,000. Jarosik leaves for some Russian outfit for E1,000,000. Sorry to see Jiri go. Although played out of position, he was a good player, scoring some important goals for us. Much beter than Brown IMO.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 01, 2008, 12:52:44 AM
The Hoops have signed Ben Hutchinson from Boro for 250,000. Jarosik leaves for some Russian outfit for E1,000,000. Sorry to see Jiri go. Although played out of position, he was a good player, scoring some important goals for us. Much beter than Brown IMO.


Nah I'm sorry, but if you believe that then you must have been on the beer all night!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 01, 2008, 08:32:33 AM
Notice OWC's Steven Davis has joined Rangers

Big, big signing for the Rangers, but you have to wonder just who is advising Davis.

He was very highly thought of at Villa, but decided he had to leave at the end of last season, because he wasn't guaranteed first team football (despite rarely, if ever, being out of the sixteen man squad). I was at Villa Park for what proved to be his last game and the reception he got from the home fans when he came on showed how well liked he was. I had a conversation that day with Chris Nicholl and he was certainly of the opinion that Davis would be one who Villa could have built around for the long term. Had he hung round into this season, he would be a fixture in the Villa midfield. So someone tells him it is a good idea to sign for Fulham. Now, after being a regular feature in the Fulham team for most of the season, he is off to Rangers. Can't see the logic in that move. Yes, he probably will get a SPL medal at the end of the year, but when you consider where he was a year or a year and a half ago, it would appear that he is maybe going backwards a wee bit or doesn't have the bottle to fight for his place.

So where he could be in a team fighting for a Champions' League place, he chose to fight against relegation and now he has chosen the soft option of the SPL.

Good signing for Rangers, but not for Davis.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on February 01, 2008, 10:07:35 AM
Jarosik leaves for some Russian outfit for E1,000,000. Sorry to see Jiri go. Although played out of position, he was a good player, scoring some important goals for us.

I always thought jarosik was a decent player when it came to the european games. when it came to the SPL he didnt put it in.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on February 01, 2008, 10:19:47 AM
SS, i would be disappointed with davis ending at rangers, but i have to admit that sadly he has regressed from his amazing start at villa.
He unfortunately wasnt what oneil wanted from a midfielder - wasnt strong enough, was regularly not playing at the expense of petrov who was frankly rubbish at the time much to the annoyance of the fans. Then they bought reo coker as well.
Unfortunately he has been having a relatively poor time at fulham along with all the team, and hodgson maybe just doesnt fancy him with bullard back etc.

Hopefully rangers can kick start him, but i hope he doesnt hang around there for too long.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 01, 2008, 10:31:14 AM
SS, i would be disappointed with davis ending at rangers, but i have to admit that sadly he has regressed from his amazing start at villa.
He unfortunately wasnt what oneil wanted from a midfielder - wasnt strong enough, was regularly not playing at the expense of petrov who was frankly rubbish at the time much to the annoyance of the fans. Then they bought reo coker as well.
Unfortunately he has been having a relatively poor time at fulham along with all the team, and hodgson maybe just doesnt fancy him with bullard back etc.

Hopefully rangers can kick start him, but i hope he doesnt hang around there for too long.

The Reo-Coker signing would have been a bit of a kick in the teeth for him and with Petrov, Gardner, Berger and Maloney even ahead in the pecking order, you can see why the move to Fulham was attractive (along with Sanchez being there of course). The irony is that I feel he would be a regular with Villa this season, albeit out of position on th eright side of midfield. Would have been interesting if O'Neill had been able to get him back on loan.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 01, 2008, 04:10:08 PM
Lads Davis is only on loan at Mordor til the Summer!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on February 01, 2008, 04:13:52 PM
GDA, yeah he is, but it is plausible Hodge doesnt want him, he seems to be interested in changing a lot of the team. The deal could always be come permanent.
I hope not.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 01, 2008, 04:20:24 PM
GDA, yeah he is, but it is plausible Hodge doesnt want him, he seems to be interested in changing a lot of the team. The deal could always be come permanent.
I hope not.

Nifan,
The mate (dyed in the wool teddybear) reckons that they have an option to go in with 2.5 million for him in the Summer if they want.
Personally, I'm not too worried about him, Hutton (and possibily Cousin) going will have a much bigger impact on the Orcs then him coming in.
Though from your perspective as an OWC fan, it has to be good news, as he should be guarenteed first team football at Mordor!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: red hander on February 01, 2008, 06:22:28 PM
Thank Feck we didn't get Lavatory ... a tube who Burnley, yes, that's right, BURNLEY, think is worth £4m .... Strachan is not the man
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 01, 2008, 11:08:41 PM
Not gonna be a WGS apoligist, but I think people need to realise that Celtic are heading for 3 in a row, third time in our history we would have done it. Three times in 120 years!!

We'll not mention the 2 times we've got to the last 16 in Europe!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 02, 2008, 02:10:31 PM
Celtic-5 Killie-1, comprehensive demolishion by the Celts, plus a cracking debut goal by Samaras!

Oh it's great to be a Tim.

Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on February 02, 2008, 05:42:31 PM
Caddis got MOTM which was great to see, I wonder if him or Hinkel could play LB so we could get Naylor out of the team.  JVOH was apparently excellent as well, he's been very lazy this season but put himself about a good bit today.  Samaras goal was as a cracker by all accounts.  Certainly the most impressive domestic result of the season so far.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 02, 2008, 05:54:13 PM
Caddis got MOTM which was great to see, I wonder if him or Hinkel could play LB so we could get Naylor out of the team.  JVOH was apparently excellent as well, he's been very lazy this season but put himself about a good bit today.  Samaras goal was as a cracker by all accounts.  Certainly the most impressive domestic result of the season so far.

Samaras's goal was good, he threatened to score for most of the match, didn't think JVOH was great, had a decent game, but with the pressure on him now (not an automatic choice for one of the two forward roles) his game will hopefully improve to what it was last season.
Caddis had an outstanding game, one to watch, Naylor -  ::) just not there, but WTF does WGS keep using Sno!!??!!??!!  >:(

Fantastic result though.

Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on February 02, 2008, 05:58:34 PM
Caddis got MOTM which was great to see, I wonder if him or Hinkel could play LB so we could get Naylor out of the team.  JVOH was apparently excellent as well, he's been very lazy this season but put himself about a good bit today.  Samaras goal was as a cracker by all accounts.  Certainly the most impressive domestic result of the season so far.

Samaras's goal was good, he threatened to score for most of the match, didn't think JVOH was great, had a decent game, but with the pressure on him now (not an automatic choice for one of the two forward roles) his game will hopefully improve to what it was last season.
Caddis had an outstanding game, one to watch, Naylor -  ::) just not there, but WTF does WGS keep using Sno!!??!!??!!  >:(

Fantastic result though.

Hail Hail

Was the game on Sky?  I checked Setanta listings and it wasn't there so I lay on in bed, I know they only have the league games though.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 02, 2008, 06:03:46 PM
Caddis got MOTM which was great to see, I wonder if him or Hinkel could play LB so we could get Naylor out of the team.  JVOH was apparently excellent as well, he's been very lazy this season but put himself about a good bit today.  Samaras goal was as a cracker by all accounts.  Certainly the most impressive domestic result of the season so far.

Samaras's goal was good, he threatened to score for most of the match, didn't think JVOH was great, had a decent game, but with the pressure on him now (not an automatic choice for one of the two forward roles) his game will hopefully improve to what it was last season.
Caddis had an outstanding game, one to watch, Naylor -  ::) just not there, but WTF does WGS keep using Sno!!??!!??!!  >:(

Fantastic result though.

Hail Hail

Was the game on Sky?  I checked Setanta listings and it wasn't there so I lay on in bed, I know they only have the league games though.


BBC1 Scotland, get it through NTL/Virgin, good for Scottish cup games, have the Huns v Hibs tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 10, 2008, 10:03:22 PM
Great display today.
McGeady is becoming a fantastic player, Naka still great, Skippy (McDonald) does he ever stop scoring!
As for record breaker Robson, on the pitch one minute first of the ball for the Hoops, GOAL...............................
5-1, but we could have scored 8!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on February 11, 2008, 10:50:42 AM
celtic are coming into form at the right time. the barcelona games should be brilliant.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 11, 2008, 11:05:24 AM
celtic are coming into form at the right time. the barcelona games should be brilliant.


Yep, just secured my ticket over the weekend for hte Barca match, really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on February 12, 2008, 04:34:13 PM
McGeady was sensational at the weekend, his goal and that pirouette and chip for Skippy's goal were a joy to watch.  He's a shoe-in for Scottish Player of the year this season.

Have exams all week next week so won't get to home game but heading to Barcelona in a few weeks from the Monday to Friday for the away leg, hopefully we'll still be in the tie by then!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on February 12, 2008, 04:53:10 PM
I heard that they had a preliminary date for the old firm game (midweek before the scheduled ibrox game) but it is now scraped because Rangers and Dundee Utd are in the cup final. So when the feck will Celtic get their home game with the huns??
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 12, 2008, 04:56:03 PM
I heard that they had a preliminary date for the old firm game (midweek before the scheduled ibrox game) but it is now scraped because Rangers and Dundee Utd are in the cup final. So when the feck will Celtic get their home game with the huns??


Once Aidan McGeady gets his next yellow (think he will have ten then) he gets a suspension, then they'll be able to pencil in the OF match - he's such a dirty player you know!!  >:(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 13, 2008, 02:05:09 PM
KOKI MIZUNO played his first game in a Celtic strip... and the Japanese new Bhoy hopes it might accelerate his debut in the first team.

The winger lined up against Dundee in a closed-doors game at Lennoxtown yesterday, and helped Celtic win 5-0 with another January signing, Ben Hutchinson, hitting two.

Derek Riordan also scored twice while Ryan Conroy, who has first-team game time this season, got the other.

Paul Caddis, Darren O'Dea, Evander Sno and Chris Killen also featured.


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 14, 2008, 11:57:03 AM
Celtic move into top 20 richest clubs in the world.

https://www.deloitte.co.uk/RegistrationForms/PDFs/DeloitteFootballMoneyLeague2008.pdf

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7242490.stm
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on February 14, 2008, 01:35:45 PM
You would be seriously deluding yourself if you believed that a club like Celtic which has hardly the spending power of a team ranked bottom of the EPL is the 17th richest in the World.

'Deloitte's figures take into account income from ticket sales, merchandising and broadcasting contracts but do not include transfer revenues and does not calculate profitability'.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 14, 2008, 02:01:30 PM
You would be seriously deluding yourself if you believed that a club like Celtic which has hardly the spending power of a team ranked bottom of the EPL is the 17th richest in the World.

'Deloitte's figures take into account income from ticket sales, merchandising and broadcasting contracts but do not include transfer revenues and does not calculate profitability'.



Considering that we get a fraction of the TV money that any team in the EPL gets, I think that 17th is a good start, given a "better" league with a higher profile, "a club like Celtic" with its massive fan base would be well up that list. More TV money, higher charging for advertising and merchandising etc...

Celtic don't have a "sugar daddy" pumping millions into them every so often, our balance sheet is very health at the minute, even with the constraints of playing in Scotland.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 14, 2008, 04:01:38 PM
think that its amazing that Celtic are up so high since they get a fraction of the money in revenue from their own league - look at the percentage revenue from the leagues these clubs get and compare that with Celtic !


also I see that a soccer website has had to issue an apology over allaegations that MON was tapping up Artur Boruc (taken from the daily record - known for its lies and false stories!) :D
MON obv took his solicitor to them !
 :D

MARTIN O'NEILL - AN APOLOGY
On 13 April 2007 this column published an article which was based on an article in the Scottish Daily Record of the same date about a visit by Celtic goalkeeper, Artur Boruc, to Villa Park, Birmingham to watch Aston Villa play a Premier League game. We are advised that the article in the Daily Record, insofar as it relates to Martin O'Neill, the Manager of Aston Villa is untrue. We accept that:

1. Martin O'Neill has never taken the view that Celtic are a feeder club for either Aston Villa or any other club.

2. The visit by Artur Boruc to Villa Park was not at the instigation of Martin O'Neill.

3. Artur Boruc has made one visit only to Villa Park

4. Martin O'Neill has at no time either directly or by an agent tried to 'tap up' Artur Boruc or to induce Artur Boruc to leave Celtic in breach of his contract and move to Aston Villa.

We apologise to Martin O'Neill for any distress this article may have caused him.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on February 14, 2008, 10:15:37 PM
aberdeen drawing 2-2 with bayern maybe shows that the spl isnt as sh*t as some might think.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 14, 2008, 10:41:12 PM
aberdeen drawing 2-2 with bayern maybe shows that the spl isnt as sh*t as some might think.

They were missing half their team as well, some result by the Dons :o. Mind you they did pump Copenhagen 4-0 in the group stage and they are a handy enough side (as Celtic and Man Utd fans know from last season) so we already knew they were capable of raising their game for the big European games. They will struggle over in Munich but a good effort tonight anyway.

True enough to say Celtic get far less cash than Premiership sides but their almost guarenteed annual venture to the Champions League is the flip side of that. That brings in bucketloads of cash and gives Celtic huge international exposure which lower Premiership sides can only dream of. Works both ways.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 15, 2008, 09:08:47 AM
Fantastic result for the Dons last night, should have had a peno in the first half as well.
The second best team in Scotland after the Celts.  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on February 15, 2008, 11:44:34 AM
You would be seriously deluding yourself if you believed that a club like Celtic which has hardly the spending power of a team ranked bottom of the EPL is the 17th richest in the World.

'Deloitte's figures take into account income from ticket sales, merchandising and broadcasting contracts but do not include transfer revenues and does not calculate profitability'.



Considering that we get a fraction of the TV money that any team in the EPL gets, I think that 17th is a good start, given a "better" league with a higher profile, "a club like Celtic" with its massive fan base would be well up that list. More TV money, higher charging for advertising and merchandising etc...

Celtic don't have a "sugar daddy" pumping millions into them every so often, our balance sheet is very health at the minute, even with the constraints of playing in Scotland.

Yes, the 17th position is largely a reflection on the fan base. Profit from merchandise- season ticket sales are a lot less than the TV money paid out for just being in a league.
It's also a rare event that Celtic would make serious money selling a player on.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 15, 2008, 04:52:57 PM
heres two crackers  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WTA82hGwuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11rg826oMRI


also Aberdeen are a great club - they have a fantastic record of producing good players from their youth team and reserves.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 15, 2008, 05:18:42 PM
 :D Transfer deadline day at Ibrox is a classic

Go and get Samaras from Man City  :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: red hander on February 15, 2008, 08:01:26 PM
Who was the young kid (13) from downpatrick who was introduced recently at halftime at Celtic Park after signing schoolboy forms?   Apparently United and Arsenal were after him but he's a mad celt
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 16, 2008, 12:06:30 AM
heres two crackers  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WTA82hGwuo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11rg826oMRI


also Aberdeen are a great club - they have a fantastic record of producing good players from their youth team and reserves.


Fantastic Lynchbhoy, here's hoping for some of the same against the Jambo's.



Come on the Hoops - Celtic Abú
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: passedit on February 16, 2008, 11:42:33 AM
Last minute plea for assistance here. Heading to see the match very shortly, driving from edinburgh direction. Any good tips where to park?

Any ideas appreciated as i've never driven there before.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 16, 2008, 06:23:01 PM
Passedit, my advice would be to get the train, not sure of parking round Paradise, defo not on London Road.


Great performance today, clinical disposal of the Jambo's, McDonald and McGeady oh God it's great to watch.
Great preparation for Barca on Wednesday, the team have been playing with more confidence with every game since Christmas - bring on the Catalans!  8)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: passedit on February 18, 2008, 09:48:12 AM
Drove in and got parked behind the Forge shopping centre no bother. Hearts were dung and if Hinkel is the answer i'm fcuked if i know what the question is.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 18, 2008, 09:57:12 AM
Drove in and got parked behind the Forge shopping centre no bother. Hearts were dung and if Hinkel is the answer i'm fcuked if i know what the question is.

Right back maybe?  ::)

Hearts weren't "fantastic" - they did get beaten! but you cannot take anything away from that Celtic performance!
Granted the game went stale for a period in the middle, but the Celts played great, and Hinkels finish was outstanding.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: passedit on February 18, 2008, 10:46:15 AM
I was thinking more 'What does milk turn quicker than?' GDA. If the Hearts no 11 was any use it couda been 3-3! that said Celtic were very good until they went 1-0 up. They then decided they were going to win at their ease (rightly) and switched off for too long. I spose weds was in the back of their minds somewhere. Samaras looked handy when he came on and from midfield up they were very good. I'd fear for that defence though.i
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 18, 2008, 11:16:48 AM
I was thinking more 'What does milk turn quicker than?' GDA. If the Hearts no 11 was any use it couda been 3-3! that said Celtic were very good until they went 1-0 up. They then decided they were going to win at their ease (rightly) and switched off for too long. I spose weds was in the back of their minds somewhere. Samaras looked handy when he came on and from midfield up they were very good. I'd fear for that defence though.i

When you mention Celtic and WGS you have to fear for the defense!
That said, have had quite a few shutouts recently, but against the likes of Barca, sloppy defending will be punished severely.
Hinkel will need a bit of time to settle in, your right about Samaras, looked good when he came on, seemingly Hutchinson will be quite handy as well, with Robson, we have someone who can replace the suspended Brown on Wednesday.

See Laporta says that we are the greatest supporters in the world.

Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Muzz on February 19, 2008, 08:04:41 PM
Guys any word on who will show the match tomorrow night?  I know sky sports are showing it on interactive but NTL you cant use the Red Button.  RTE showing Man U (surprise surprise) and no games on ITV. 

Don't want to go to the pub to watch it - rather watch it in the house.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: stiffler on February 19, 2008, 09:04:55 PM
Why do RTE show man utd games at every opportunity?

Surely the Celtic Barcelona match would attract a bigger audience that the Man Utd Lyon game?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gaa.boy on February 20, 2008, 03:32:45 PM
Starting to get desperate now.
Does anybody know which channel is showing the game tonight?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on February 20, 2008, 04:16:44 PM
Starting to get desperate now.
Does anybody know which channel is showing the game tonight?

Setanta Ireland
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tintin25 on February 20, 2008, 05:04:22 PM
Why do RTE show man utd games at every opportunity?

Surely the Celtic Barcelona match would attract a bigger audience that the Man Utd Lyon game?

I doubt it.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 20, 2008, 05:39:26 PM
Starting to get desperate now.
Does anybody know which channel is showing the game tonight?

Sky are showing this game on SKY One also so is this available through other Cable Operators or will it be scrambled?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on February 20, 2008, 06:25:01 PM
watch it streaming via the net, can get you the link if you want.

will watch one on the net and man utd on rte.

btw come on the hoops
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: red hander on February 20, 2008, 06:33:25 PM
watch it streaming via the net, can get you the link if you want.

will watch one on the net and man utd on rte.

btw come on the hoops

Gerry, I'm working late tonight, could you post the link so i can watch it on my computer, cheers
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on February 20, 2008, 06:44:52 PM


[url]www.freeviewfootball.com/]www.livefooty.doctor-serv.com/wed20.2/Celtic_Barcelona.html]

[url]www.freeviewfootball.com/ (http://www.livefooty.doctor-serv.com/wed20.2/Celtic_Barcelona.html)

first one normally the best, you need to use IE and not firefox and you also need to download sopcast to view it, theres a link on the livefooty page

any issues pm me

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: red hander on February 20, 2008, 06:46:16 PM
www.livefooty.doctor-serv.com/wed20.2/Celtic_Barcelona.html (http://www.livefooty.doctor-serv.com/wed20.2/Celtic_Barcelona.html)


[urll]www.freeviewfootball.com/[/url]

first one normally the best, you need to use IE and not firefox and you also need to download sopcast to view it, theres a link on the livefooty page

any issues pm me



You're a gent, cheers
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on February 20, 2008, 06:48:22 PM
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/wed20.2/Celtic_Barcelona.html (http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/wed20.2/Celtic_Barcelona.html)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on February 20, 2008, 06:49:33 PM
http://www.freeviewfootball.com/ (http://www.freeviewfootball.com/)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on February 20, 2008, 07:40:27 PM
2-1 Hoops, great atmosphere.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on February 20, 2008, 09:24:14 PM
3 2 down up against it now
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 20, 2008, 09:51:18 PM
Sooooooooooooo.........................roughly 25% against 75% posession to the away team.

Difference in class enormous tonight but a few things evidently clear:

1. Caldwell is a joke, a bad joke. An arrogant pr*ck of a player who fancies himself as a maestro in defence and in truth is hopeless. Gave ball away for 2nd, sent to the shop for sweeties by Messi for the 3rd. How he gets a game ahead of Balde is astounding."we will batter Barca" he claimed in the Record today...............aye right
2. Tonight should end the McGeady as good as Messi debate.
3. Naka. The SPL equivalent of a special teams player. Was less than useless tonight.
4. Naylor.......................please, a chamiponship player and showing it.

On the plus side Skippy was excellent, worked his ar*e off. Hartley did well enough as did JVoH.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2008, 09:53:05 PM
Dunno if anyone was watching this on setanta ireland and saw the post match analysis but gees your man is a **** end - Paul whatever his name is.

Celtic were humiliated and celtic fans with ambition should be embarassed he says.

Rangers got a 0-0 draw he says. Why couldn't Celtic.

The Barcelona front three is like a world select - they did very well considering! Also where the ambition is in getting a 0-0 in the home leg of a two leg tie I dunno but it just frustrated me listening to this and Andy Townsend got tongue tied he was that annoyed with him.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 20, 2008, 10:10:29 PM
Regardless of what Rangers (who the f**k cares what they do to be honest) we were made to look like wee boys tonight.

It was unfortunate that Barca clicked in a way they haven't done all season in Spain but to have 25% possession at home is unforgiveable.

We have continually puched way above our weight at home but when you come up against players the calibre of Messi, Henry, Ronnie, Puyol, Iniesta with Eto on the bench, it's hard.

Even harder when you have pr*ks like Caldwell in the team spouting off about how good he is pre-game then having ANOTHER mare during it.

Celtic need a LB / RB / CH and a top class striker plus 2 top class MF players to do anything more in Europe
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on February 20, 2008, 10:25:08 PM
celtic were outclassed but when you constantly give the ball away so cheaply (especially caldwell) what do you expect. naka was a passenger while mcdonald worked his socks off. having said that it will take a damn good team to beat barca in the remainder of this season.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: imtommygunn on February 20, 2008, 11:10:43 PM
To be honest there's not many teams out there who would beat Barca. Celtic are a right few players of being a top top team but no-one in Scotland has the "clout" for that any more so I think they did admirably.

They are buying players of the class of Georgi Samaras after all....
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 21, 2008, 09:20:53 AM
Sooooooooooooo.........................roughly 25% against 75% posession to the away team.

Difference in class enormous tonight but a few things evidently clear:

1. Caldwell is a joke, a bad joke. An arrogant pr*ck of a player who fancies himself as a maestro in defence and in truth is hopeless. Gave ball away for 2nd, sent to the shop for sweeties by Messi for the 3rd. How he gets a game ahead of Balde is astounding."we will batter Barca" he claimed in the Record today...............aye right
2. Tonight should end the McGeady as good as Messi debate.
3. Naka. The SPL equivalent of a special teams player. Was less than useless tonight.
4. Naylor.......................please, a chamiponship player and showing it.

On the plus side Skippy was excellent, worked his ar*e off. Hartley did well enough as did JVoH.

Barca made Celtic look like fools in terms of posession etc, but apart from passing the ball to death, they have problems in the last quarter of the field. With that amount of posession they shoul dbe creating more chances. To be honest, they didn create too many decent clear cut chances. Celtics bad defending from that much maligned (correctly) defense provided them with chances they would not normally get if faced with defenders who can defend (and dont buy obvious dummies, dont dive into tackles etc etc - caldwell the worst culprit).

Scott brown was sorely missed, and in that even of Brown being available again from suspension Barry Robson should have played wing instead of Naka who lacks bite to be a top quality player. Would be great in a team like Barca's though.

As for McGeady /messi. Aiden has a bit to go yet, but as the young Celt terrorised one of the best defenders in Spain/europe, with Messi getting more than a decent helping hand from like minded pass and move players like ronaldiho and deco, I dont think that anyone can say the playing field was fair and McGeady first half was very good with limited posession.

Have always said it, Celtic need TWO decent centre halves - as McManus is a trier, but not a natural cb. Better LB - where MON played him.
Naylor isnt good enough. Caldwell is the Scottish rio. Enough said.

You cant expect to do well if your defense stands off , doesnt tackle hard and allows the other team to dance around them all night untouched. Celtic way too nervous and respectful.

Still a fantastic Barca team. Unless they self implode as happens with them, they look like CL favourites as I hear they have been touted to be last week.

Naka is great against lesser opposition that give you more time on the ball. Barca dont. Naka
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: corn02 on February 21, 2008, 02:29:22 PM
McGeady is having a great season and is surpirsingy me immensley. Fair play to the lad but anoyone who suggest he is in Messi's League should get the Gazza treatment.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 21, 2008, 09:52:02 PM

Have always said it, Celtic need TWO decent centre halves - as McManus is a trier, but not a natural cb. Better LB - where MON played him.
Naylor isnt good enough. Caldwell is the Scottish rio. Enough said.


Youve said this before Lynchbhoy but Im afraid McManus never was and never will be a left back. He is good centre back though and just needs a decent partner alongside him. Caldwell is hopeless and shouldnt be playing for Celtic, he wasnt even particularly rated by the Hibs support when he was there.

Celtic were just outclassed last night. They put up a great fight but ultimately they had an St.Johnstone player alongside an ex Forfar player in centre midfield...always going to be up against it.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on February 21, 2008, 10:32:40 PM
McGeady is having a great season and is surpirsingy me immensley. Fair play to the lad but anoyone who suggest he is in Messi's League should get the Gazza treatment.

Don't think anyone is saying that, Messi is one of the world's top 3 footballers at the minute an will soon be universally recognised as the best in next few years IMO like Zidane was in his pomp.  McGeady is tremendous though, hopefully he might actually start getting a bit of recognition in Ireland outside of Celtic fans for the player he is.


Have always said it, Celtic need TWO decent centre halves - as McManus is a trier, but not a natural cb. Better LB - where MON played him.
Naylor isnt good enough. Caldwell is the Scottish rio. Enough said.

Agree with LDA - he played there a few times but he's never a left back, you need someone there who can give a bit of width, get forward and cross a ball.  Caldwell thinks he's Franz Beckenbauer sometimes the way he tries to play out from the back, I don't rate him at all if fit I'd play Balde or O'Dea or maybe even Pressley ahead of him.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: new devil on February 23, 2008, 11:41:49 AM
Yous boys aren't seriously trying 2 put these two in the same league ???
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: his holiness nb on February 23, 2008, 11:49:44 AM
McGeady is tremendous though, hopefully he might actually start getting a bit of recognition in Ireland outside of Celtic fans for the player he is.

Once he starts producing the celtic form for Ireland I am sure he will. I have seen him get several chances which have ranged from decent to awful. I wouldnt say he has had one outstanding game yet, or anything close to that.

He does have the talent though, only a matter of time IMO.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on February 23, 2008, 01:36:34 PM
......Have always said it, Celtic need TWO decent centre halves - as McManus is a trier, but not a natural cb. Better LB - where MON played him.
Naylor isnt good enough. Caldwell is the Scottish rio. Enough said.

You cant expect to do well if your defense stands off , doesnt tackle hard and allows the other team to dance around them all night untouched. Celtic way too nervous and respectful.

Still a fantastic Barca team. Unless they self implode as happens with them, they look like CL favourites as I hear they have been touted to be last week.

Naka is great against lesser opposition that give you more time on the ball. Barca dont. Naka
Imo both Naka and McGeady would thrive in a better team.
Most of the time Naka was back defending, supporting the RB. I thought he worked hard but had to play too deep.
The few balls McGeady got, he did well.
It's up to the rest of the team to get their creative players on the ball over the half way line.
The worst ever home CL display?
The defense are technically deficient, closed down with ease, ball hoofed out.
I think it's quite clear that Celtic peaked with last years Milan games, in fact this season they are getting worse.
Strachan's idea of of how he would like them to play doesn't match his coaching ability to do so or in his choice of quality players.

Out of this team, of the first 11 I'd keep Boruc, McGeady, Naka, Scott Brown and JVOH.
There is a ? with Wilson as he is just getting match sharp.
What is an acadamy for if players don't come through it and Celtic just end up buying players who have come through other SPL acadamies.


 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: new devil on February 23, 2008, 07:10:43 PM
Theres not one celtic player who would make any of the top 3 in the premierships team...maybe some of the weaker teams like spurs,liverpool etc but not the top 3!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Whitehair on February 23, 2008, 07:31:49 PM
Boruc would get a game at Arsenal IMO.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on February 23, 2008, 10:14:18 PM
Theres not one celtic player who would make any of the top 3 in the premierships team...maybe some of the weaker teams like spurs,liverpool etc but not the top 3!
Are you trying to say that no Celtic player would get into any of the top 3 EPL teams?
Apart from Boruc no, so feckin what. ???

But I'd have Naka instead of Giggs:)

 


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: stephenite on February 24, 2008, 08:05:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WTA82hGwuo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WTA82hGwuo)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on February 24, 2008, 04:49:26 PM
a poor showing today at st mirren but what another great free kick by naka. if only he could improve in other areas.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 24, 2008, 06:27:40 PM
Youve said this before Lynchbhoy but Im afraid McManus never was and never will be a left back. He is good centre back though and just needs a decent partner alongside him. Caldwell is hopeless and shouldnt be playing for Celtic, he wasnt even particularly rated by the Hibs support when he was there.
yes I have said it before, and if he can play LB (as he did very capably for MON teams a number of times then he isnt good enough to start at all  imo.
A decent makeshift centre half, Darren O'Dea is less akward and better at reading the game, but has a long way to go yet before he is good enough.
McManus just isnt what any top team need at centre half. Caldwell isnt even half as good as mcmanus.
Pressley the better centre half, but legs are gone.Balde and a reiper-esque centre half is what Celtic would require
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on February 25, 2008, 09:14:23 AM
a poor showing today at st mirren but what another great free kick by naka. if only he could improve in other areas.
Which areas do you think Naka could improve in.
Goalkeeping?

I´d concede that  he is a bit of a featherweight.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on February 25, 2008, 09:36:12 AM
a poor showing today at st mirren but what another great free kick by naka. if only he could improve in other areas.
Which areas do you think Naka could improve in.
Goalkeeping?

I´d concede that  he is a bit of a featherweight.

when he doesnt have the ball he needs to work harder and start putting in a few tackles.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on February 25, 2008, 09:57:01 AM
when he doesnt have the ball he needs to work harder and start putting in a few tackles.
He wouldn't be in a GS team if he didn't work back and tackle. Eg. he spent most of his time covering the FB against Barca.

He is a playmaker supreme, a gifted intelligent player who is a world class sublime passer of the ball.
Imo his best role would be in front of a 3 man midfield.
Celtic fans say he is a different player at home than away in the EPL.
Without him in the CL, Celtic were outclassed at home by Shakhtar.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on February 25, 2008, 10:34:54 PM
yes I have said it before, and if he can play LB (as he did very capably for MON teams a number of times then he isnt good enough to start at all  imo.
A decent makeshift centre half, Darren O'Dea is less akward and better at reading the game, but has a long way to go yet before he is good enough.
McManus just isnt what any top team need at centre half. Caldwell isnt even half as good as mcmanus.
Pressley the better centre half, but legs are gone.Balde and a reiper-esque centre half is what Celtic would require

He played the very occasional game at LB for O'Neill simply because Celtic were short on cover and he is defender and left footed - but he is not and never was a natural left back. He isnt a "makeshift centre half" either, thats the position he has played for many years. You dont play ball winning centre backs at full back. McManus has kept a number of top players quiet for both Celtic and Scotland and is a better player than Balde (who would incidentally be a better option next to McManus than Caldwell) and Ive no doubt he will continue to be a key player for years to come. Maybe if he had a fancy foreign name he would be more easily accepted ;). Seems to be highly rated by the majority of Celtic fans too I must say.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on February 25, 2008, 11:10:02 PM
He played the very occasional game at LB for O'Neill simply because Celtic were short on cover and he is defender and left footed - but he is not and never was a natural left back. He isnt a "makeshift centre half" either, thats the position he has played for many years. You dont play ball winning centre backs at full back. McManus has kept a number of top players quiet for both Celtic and Scotland and is a better player than Balde (who would incidentally be a better option next to McManus than Caldwell) and Ive no doubt he will continue to be a key player for years to come. Maybe if he had a fancy foreign name he would be more easily accepted ;). Seems to be highly rated by the majority of Celtic fans too I must say.
No prob LDA. A lot of Celtic fans think McManus is great , then again Shaun Maloney was voted player of the year in scotland...my point?
If a player is a native, they will be seen as the new pele just because they are Scots ! ! !
Celtic's two best centre halves are Pressley and O'Dea (imo). One past it, the other might never make it.
I have seen a lot of McManus on TV and live and imo he is just not good enough. Hes decent , does his best and all that, but against decent sides that play in the CL, players like him are unfortunately too freq found out. LB is where I would play him  ONLY if stuck, but if Strachan realises he wont do too well by buying the entire Scots national team for Celtic, and buys a decent Centre half, then McManus would be best left on the bench. I just wont go with the popular sentiment because many others think the same way. Celtic have too many below average players, Centre half is the key area that needs to be fixed first.
IMO.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 25, 2008, 11:37:54 PM
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He wouldn't be in a GS team if he didn't work back and tackle. Eg. he spent most of his time covering the FB against Barca.

He is a playmaker supreme, a gifted intelligent player who is a world class sublime passer of the ball.
Imo his best role would be in front of a 3 man midfield.
Celtic fans say he is a different player at home than away in the EPL.
Without him in the CL, Celtic were outclassed at home by Shakhtar

I've heard some nonsense said about Naka but that takes the biscuit.

He left Caddis hung out to dry on Wed night. Can't tackle, won't tackle. It's widley accepted, and even voiced by WGS, that Naka is terrible at covering his FB.

On his day he's a very good player. The amount of times he's been on his day this season however have been few and far between. To be coinsidered world class you should be having an above average game roughly 2 out of 3 times you play (averaged over a season). Naka has about 1 in 10.

Ask yourself why WGS leaves him out of big away games. Why was he on the bench against Rangers in the last OF? He wasn't injured. He just rarely does it from open play away from CP and gets regularly bullied out of games.

Away from home he's the equivalent of the NFL special teams unit. Get a free - give to Naka, he scores. That's his sum contribution away from home. How you can call that world class is beyond me. World class free taker yes, world class player - no.

For a "sublime passer of the ball" he gave 80-90% of his passes straight to Barca on Wed night.

Larsson was world class.........Naka is nowhere near Henrik's standard.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on February 26, 2008, 01:37:03 AM
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He wouldn't be in a GS team if he didn't work back and tackle. Eg. he spent most of his time covering the FB against Barca.

He is a playmaker supreme, a gifted intelligent player who is a world class sublime passer of the ball.
Imo his best role would be in front of a 3 man midfield.
Celtic fans say he is a different player at home than away in the EPL.
Without him in the CL, Celtic were outclassed at home by Shakhtar

I've heard some nonsense said about Naka but that takes the biscuit.

He left Caddis hung out to dry on Wed night. Can't tackle, won't tackle. It's widley accepted, and even voiced by WGS, that Naka is terrible at covering his FB.

On his day he's a very good player. The amount of times he's been on his day this season however have been few and far between. To be coinsidered world class you should be having an above average game roughly 2 out of 3 times you play (averaged over a season). Naka has about 1 in 10.

Ask yourself why WGS leaves him out of big away games. Why was he on the bench against Rangers in the last OF? He wasn't injured. He just rarely does it from open play away from CP and gets regularly bullied out of games.

Away from home he's the equivalent of the NFL special teams unit. Get a free - give to Naka, he scores. That's his sum contribution away from home. How you can call that world class is beyond me. World class free taker yes, world class player - no.

For a "sublime passer of the ball" he gave 80-90% of his passes straight to Barca on Wed night.

Larsson was world class.........Naka is nowhere near Henrik's standard.
Naka has missed months due to injury.
As I said,  Celtic fans say he isn't an away player in the SPL. I dunno, I don't get to see those games. The SPL doesn't exactly light my fire. Caley feckin thistle? it's a foreign league to me.
On the Barca game,, have a look at it again, the pundits spoke nonsense about Naka not tracking back even though he spent most of the game in the Celtic half, he hardly ever got forward, yet the Setanta crew were criticising him for not tracking back. ???  the whole team were awful against Barca, how come you'd have the sight of the playmaker Naka spending 80% of the game in the Celtic half in a home game.
Celtic's back 4 are rubbish and the midfield are barely adequate for the CL. Where is the base for a playmaker to operate when the back 4 can't string 2 passes together, when put under a bit of pressure  the first response is to hoof it out.
Without Boruc they wouldn't be in the last 16, this year and last.
Did I say Naka was world class? no I didn't, I said he is a world class passer of the ball.
If Strachan didn't rate Naka he would have been sold last Summer after winning the POY award.
Let me remind you of what Strachan says about Naka
"The man's a genius," Strachan said of a player he has described as possessing 'the touch of an angel'. "But we also have statistics that say he covers more ground than anybody in our team."

last week
: "No, I (dont) want to get rid of the one of the best players in Britain! January and December,
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on February 26, 2008, 09:55:45 AM
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Naka has missed months due to injury.

He was poor before that at the start of the season

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Did I say Naka was world class? no I didn't, I said he is a world class passer of the ball.

 ::) ok - part time world class then according to you

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Celtic fans say he isn't an away player in the SPL. I dunno, I don't get to see those games. The SPL doesn't exactly light my fire. Caley feckin thistle? it's a foreign league to me.

For a man who has no interest in Celtic away or the bread and butter SPL games you seem remarkably forthright with your views on a player who you only see in marquee games for Celtic. Rafael Schiedt looked good on the video highlight compilation y'know!Try Setanta for the away games and take a more informed view of Naka

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Celtic's back 4 are rubbish and the midfield are barely adequate for the CL. Where is the base for a playmaker to operate when the back 4 can't string 2 passes together

I agree..however this is the same back 4 and midfield assembled by Strachan so he obviously rates them all.........so on one hand you slag off the back line and MF created by WGS and on the other you suddenly value his opinion on Naka? Bit of a contradiction.

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how come you'd have the sight of the playmaker Naka spending 80% of the game in the Celtic half in a home game

Cos 90% of the time he got the ball he gave it straight back to Barca perhaps? It was quite obvious Caddis had no protection inf ront of him. Naka doesn't tackle and the pundits were 100% correct to point this out. Again..ask yourself why he was left out of the first OF game of the season at Ibrox.

Alsoask yourself why no big Euro team came in for Naka after his POY or indeed around the time we bought him.........did you hear anyone offer 10Mill + for him??????? For such a genius?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on February 26, 2008, 02:11:48 PM
Cos 90% of the time he got the ball he gave it straight back to Barca perhaps? It was quite obvious Caddis had no protection inf ront of him. Naka doesn't tackle and the pundits were 100% correct to point this out. Again..ask yourself why he was left out of the first OF game of the season at Ibrox.

Alsoask yourself why no big Euro team came in for Naka after his POY or indeed around the time we bought him.........did you hear anyone offer 10Mill + for him??????? For such a genius?
If he was of such limited use to Strachan then easily Celtic could get their money back and get shod of the wage drain. If Strachan has a high opinion of a player and it is backed by the player getting POTY,
backed by him getting the 2005 confeds  POTT and most importantly I agree with Strachan :)  then I value that Strachan opinion.
Strachan isn't perfect -  shocker - has a load of blind spots. What other coach would instruct Naka to play an alien game with an inept back 4, he was awful on the ball but he did a lot of effective covering off the ball. Overall 3 or 4 out of 10.
It was a mistake to play Naka and instruct him to support a rookie FB. I don't think less of Naka for that. I have said before that Naka plays best in front of a strong 3 in midfield.
AFAICS Celtic are technically inept to utilize a player like Naka, that you have Celtic fans crying out for another brainless hard tackling mucker, I'd say spend a few mill and get a decent RB that will cover and support  Naka.
I like intelligent players and obviously I'm subjective about Naka. I see he came on as a sub against St Mirren, replacing a poor Robson, he added some creativity, more chances were made and capped off by an example of his genius
I have seen enough of Naka over the past 4 years to have my definite opinions of him.

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For a man who has no interest in Celtic away or the bread and butter SPL games you seem remarkably forthright with your views on a player who you only see in marquee games for Celtic
Personally I think Samaras is shocking poor, based on his 15min CL cameo. Maybe I'm wrong but i don't see the point of that (loan?) signing when you already have JVOH and Killen.
 I'll keep an open mind - for a while.
  I am a long distance Celtic sympathizer since before I can remember. Im not a Glaswegian. I have said elsewhere that Dundalk were my local soccer team and when they played Celtic in the EC  I was there supporting Dundalk. I am Irish.I wouldn't watch a Strachan team in a b&b spl game away but I had no problem watching MON's team anywhere.


  
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 01, 2008, 06:53:39 PM
No prob LDA. A lot of Celtic fans think McManus is great , then again Shaun Maloney was voted player of the year in scotland...my point?
If a player is a native, they will be seen as the new pele just because they are Scots ! ! !
Celtic's two best centre halves are Pressley and O'Dea (imo). One past it, the other might never make it.
I have seen a lot of McManus on TV and live and imo he is just not good enough. Hes decent , does his best and all that, but against decent sides that play in the CL, players like him are unfortunately too freq found out. LB is where I would play him  ONLY if stuck, but if Strachan realises he wont do too well by buying the entire Scots national team for Celtic, and buys a decent Centre half, then McManus would be best left on the bench. I just wont go with the popular sentiment because many others think the same way. Celtic have too many below average players, Centre half is the key area that needs to be fixed first.
IMO.

I totally agree that centre half is an area that Celtic need to address but for me Caldwell is the only man who needs to be replaced. I see your point on the native players being talked up but then again I dont rate Pressley and I never rated Beattie even when some people seemed to think he was a great prospect.

Good win for Celtic today after being on the ropes at times. Samaras seems to be taking some stick on here but he took his goal very well when he came on, a good 3 points for Celtic in a game in which they didnt really play that well. Steven Fletcher will surely be the next young Hibs player to move on to a bigger club, he looks like he can be a very good striker.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on March 01, 2008, 10:26:12 PM
samaras looks more of a threat than mcdonald and vennegor put together. dont know why he is taking stick as the only poor contribution he had was against st mirren. caldwell needs replaced and asap. balde and o'dea are much better defenders.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 01, 2008, 11:00:14 PM
I totally agree that centre half is an area that Celtic need to address but for me Caldwell is the only man who needs to be replaced. I see your point on the native players being talked up but then again I dont rate Pressley and I never rated Beattie even when some people seemed to think he was a great prospect.

Good win for Celtic today after being on the ropes at times. Samaras seems to be taking some stick on here but he took his goal very well when he came on, a good 3 points for Celtic in a game in which they didnt really play that well. Steven Fletcher will surely be the next young Hibs player to move on to a bigger club, he looks like he can be a very good striker.
Agree with you on Caldwell. Thought Beattie was just inconsistent and needed to find his best 'game' and style, as at times he could be superb.
Pressley was excellent a few years ago (after being fairly mediocre early in his career).

I like Samaras. Could be superb if used properly. Dont know if Celtic are that team though to do so.
Fletcher defo looks a great prospect.
Celtic were ok in first half, but offered no attacking threat. If they didnt shoot straight at the keeper in the second half they could have won by a mile. Very energetic high intensity perf from Celtic in second half. McGeady showing he is looking like reaching the potential he promised a few years ago. Scot Brown superb.

Alloa finding it difficult to score away from home these days...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on March 02, 2008, 02:58:20 PM
I haven't quite made up my mind on Samaras yet, its obvious he was severely lacking in confidence at Man City because he's not been the donkey I expected him to be.  Good to see Brown put in a good performance, it would be great if he could add real consistency to his game- in pre-season he was unbelievable, I know people don't take those games seriously but in every game I saw he was driving the midfield forward like Gerrard on a good day.

Lovely bit of football from McGeady again for the second goal, I wonder what his assist tally has been in the past while he seems to be setting up a goal every game now.  Off to Barcelona tomorrow for Tuesday's game, its a bit shit that we're basically out but hoping for a valiant display nonetheless and should be good craic.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 04, 2008, 04:46:48 PM
Still no team reports up on any of the usual sites!


Anyway, hears hoping with a novena, prayer and a candle.


Hail Hail......... Come on the Celts
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on March 04, 2008, 05:10:58 PM
Does anyone know if this will be on any channel apart from Sky bleedin Sports???  >:(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on March 04, 2008, 09:51:27 PM
In the end only one nil after fears of 4-0.  The first half was very hard to watch from a Celtic point of view.
Second half was better, mostly because Barca took it easier and the presence of  Sno who was an infinitely better option than Donati and should have come on after 15mins.
McGeady did better when he cut more inside.
Naka wasn't dispossesed once and did he have a perfect successful pass rate?
Samaras did well. Boruc as usual - top marks.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 06, 2008, 12:42:15 PM
Well, on the bright side, at least the Celts can now concentrate on winning 3 in a row (for the first time since Big Jock!), without any more distractions.
Thought we were terrible in the first half, but got better in the second, albeit with Barca taking the foot of the gas and Messi going off. We were beaten by a massively better team, but Lawwell has come out today and announced that WGS will be given the funds to strengthen the team in the summer, given a rub of the green and a decent draw for next years CL, maybe we could get to the last eight...!  8)


Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on March 09, 2008, 03:18:04 PM
Can't believe yet another injury time goal, this team never knows when they are beaten.  Samaras looked very creative again when he came on, lovely pass for the goal and he showed another great piece of vision to play in JVOH a few minutes previously.  Sno looked good on the ball, I could see him getting more games in the run-in. 

As per usual the Holy Goalie kept us in it with a few outstanding saves, I don't think I'd swap him for any keeper in the world.  Caldwell and McManus were very poor IMO.  The extra game is not ideal with so many league games coming up but better than going out of the cup.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: under the bar on March 09, 2008, 08:29:58 PM
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Caldwell and McManus were very poor IMO.


Caldwell wouldn't make it onto the special olympic soccer team.  If he was a greyhound he'd get a bullet. WGS needs psychiatric help if he thinks Caldwell is Celtic standard.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 10, 2008, 10:42:38 AM
caldwell is terrible. Celtic unlucky not to win after hitting the woodwork four times, but lucky to draw in the end.
Samaras looks better and better, though his confidence turns to jelly if he makes a mistake and is better off the field at that stage. A good player however imo.

IMO Bouc will go in the sumer. He signed a new contract that will guarantee Celtic a min of £10 Million , so at least he wont be bought on the cheap.
One of the best goalies in the world, def one of the top couple of penalty stoppers.
Can see hm going to an italian club or arsenal.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on March 10, 2008, 05:09:11 PM
Seriously that man Caldwell needs released from his duties. He is brutal and so slow it's not even funny. Balde and O Dea are def better defenders somebody pointed that out earlier. As for Samaras he's a good player and should be used more as for who makes way????
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 10, 2008, 09:43:52 PM
Can't believe yet another injury time goal, \

Anyone any stats on how many late goals (say 85 min and on) celtic have scored in recent times?

It's unbelieveable. i use to think man u where bad...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 11, 2008, 10:48:30 AM
Can't believe yet another injury time goal, \

Anyone any stats on how many late goals (say 85 min and on) celtic have scored in recent times?

It's unbelieveable. i use to think man u where bad...


Supposedly have scored in the last five mins eleven times this season - don't think that it was the cructial goal in all eleven matches.
Not that it matters how many times its happened, a goal is a goal no matter when its scored, and three points are three points, no matter how the game was won!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 12, 2008, 11:33:35 PM
So another 2 points chucked away tonight..at home too.

Can Strachan not just go.and go now
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 13, 2008, 08:49:52 AM
So another 2 points chucked away tonight..at home too.

Can Strachan not just go.and go now


Have heard quite a few rumours from various sources, all suggesting that WGS will walk in the Summer - now personally I don't think he will.
As for last night, it was always going to be a very difficult game, given the Arabs current form this season, we hit the woodwork twice and had most of the pressure, but again, no cutting edge in front of goal (which WGS admitted after the game).
Obviously its now going to be extremely difficult to retain the league, but I believe that we can still do it, 3 OF matches still to go and 2 of them at home, also the Orcs fixture pile-up has to start affecting them soon, their squad isn't big enough to cope with the number of games they have left (also losing Cousin for a month ain't going to help their cause).
So I wouldn't be really unhappy if the Hun held out for a win tonight over Bremen, another 2 games in Europe, more pressure on them and increases the Scottish teams co-efficient and they have no hope of actually winning the competition.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on March 13, 2008, 09:31:56 AM
So I wouldn't be really unhappy if the Hun held out for a win tonight over Bremen, another 2 games in Europe, more pressure on them and increases the Scottish teams co-efficient and they have no hope of actually winning the competition.

dont know about that. i've a bad feeling about the huns in the uefa cup. i would be much happier if spurs and everton had have progressed. also there's no way a celtic team under WGS are gonna beat walter smith's huns 3 times in the league.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 13, 2008, 12:28:59 PM
So I wouldn't be really unhappy if the Hun held out for a win tonight over Bremen, another 2 games in Europe, more pressure on them and increases the Scottish teams co-efficient and they have no hope of actually winning the competition.

dont know about that. i've a bad feeling about the huns in the uefa cup. i would be much happier if spurs and everton had have progressed. also there's no way a celtic team under WGS are gonna beat walter smith's huns 3 times in the league.


Don't be stressing your head Clarshack, Bayern Munich have the UEFA cup in the bag.  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 13, 2008, 01:34:45 PM
I agree..would much rather Tottenham and Everton were in the cup than out as Bayern could have an off night.

Not much more you can say about last night though.blame lies squarely at WGS door. It's his team, he made the signings, he picks the formation, he motivates the players, he sorts out the tactics (what tactics?)

Artur..........world class and the reaosn Celtic are still anywhere near the top of the SPL
Hinkle..........don't know yet..looks useful enough
Caldwell.................joke.O'Dea and Bobo are far better
McManus...........again not good enough
Wilson...alright
Naylor...........substandard
McGeady........a good player. Njot a great player...yet
Naka..........waste of space this year
Brown.............poor
Donati...........poor
Sno..............poor
Hartley............poor
Robson............you get what you pay for
Skippy.........gone off the boil big time. Not a footballer. A six yard finisher, that's all.
Samaras............average
JVoH............poor this year
Killen...a joke

No tempo, no ideas, no football being played.

Celtic always had the reputation of an exciting team who treid to stick to the prinicples of football. Not under WGS.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 13, 2008, 03:22:39 PM
On a happier note, according to this week's View, the play about Lisbon is on at the Tivoli in Dublin beginning on Easter Tuesday and running into early April. Anybody seen this yet? Am thinking of going myself

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 13, 2008, 04:13:25 PM
On a happier note, according to this week's View, the play about Lisbon is on at the Tivoli in Dublin beginning on Easter Tuesday and running into early April. Anybody seen this yet? Am thinking of going myself

give me a shout if yer going..

pm me as my email add has changed
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 13, 2008, 04:56:45 PM
Will do Lynchboy.

Apparently they're showing highlights of the game in the Tivoli bar, after the show, from Monday to Thursday. Tims at the Theatre ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 13, 2008, 06:34:59 PM
Celtic always had the reputation of an exciting team who treid to stick to the prinicples of football. Not under WGS.

Are you having a laugh?? Im no great fan of WGS but his Celtic's have played a better brand of passing football than MON's did and on a smaller budget too. Calling for his head after a draw with Dundee United seems very short sighted, as GDA said the current United said are a well organised outfit.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 13, 2008, 09:20:47 PM
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Im no great fan of WGS but his Celtic's have played a better brand of passing football than MON's did

The greatest myth of recent times. WGS Celtic hump the ball long to the big man 80% of the time, at least Petrov and Lennon played some football.

If you look at money in/out and money available WGS is no worse off than O'Neill. If you look at thier win/loss records however WGS is nowhere near.

And I've called for his head since the first season he took over  ;) Precisely because of the football style he brought
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 13, 2008, 10:27:10 PM
O' Neil's teams have always been big strong physical sides who relied a lot on being very direct. It wasnt the Celtic way but the results (and MON's background) won over the fans. Strachan's Celtic HAVE played better football, no doubt about that. He doesnt have the same background though....
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 14, 2008, 09:57:55 AM
MON's earliest Celtic model were a route one side.
Towards the end when the midfield were too old and slow, they returned at times to route one. Othe than that people believe the myth that they were ALWAYS long ball specialists and that they played unattractive football.
I suppose they kind of did, not the cavalier attacking stuff from the Celtic of old, the cavalier approach that looked great under Tommy burns bt won them nothing (apart from a scraped SFA cup against lowly Airdrie) or under GS when rangers have been beating themselves and handing Celtic the league.
Certainly Celtic play nicer football, but MO's teams played a more defensive safety first style of football - a technique used by practically ALL winning sides.
Build on defense and then augment that.
Celtic corner the market in midfielders and scots international squad members.
They play nice football at tmes, but most of the time play a horrible slow uncreative football.

The Celtic 'way' is a myth.
the Celtic way (and any clubs 'way') should be the 'winning way'.
I dont give a fcuk what the play looks like if they are winning to be honest.
But recently players bough, team selection, team tacics,how they play and scraping by the likes of st mirren.
Thats no good enough, and I like alot of Celtic fans, dont give a toss about GS 'background'. If he was doing the business, thats all I care.
I hope he can turn it around (to make Celtic better than rangers currently are), but I dont think he is good enough.

IMO
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 14, 2008, 10:07:28 AM
I don't disagree that MON side played very direct football at times. They did however, when he got over the hoodoo of his first SPL title start to play a lot of entertaining football too.

It annoys me though that WGS has everyone believing him when he trots out the aul patter about his Celtic side playing good passing football. The majority of Celtics play involves the MF passing square /back/ wide (heaven forbid they actually go forward) to the fullbacks or "beckenbaur" Caldwell to hump the ball up to JVoH (a 6'5" forward who can't win headers).

The tempo, as many here have pointed out, is so slow that by the time Celtic have passed the halfway line they are facing 2 rows of 4. The difference now is that Petrov at least could run at people from central MF.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 14, 2008, 10:37:52 AM
I don't disagree that MON side played very direct football at times. They did however, when he got over the hoodoo of his first SPL title start to play a lot of entertaining football too.

It annoys me though that WGS has everyone believing him when he trots out the aul patter about his Celtic side playing good passing football. The majority of Celtics play involves the MF passing square /back/ wide (heaven forbid they actually go forward) to the fullbacks or "beckenbaur" Caldwell to hump the ball up to JVoH (a 6'5" forward who can't win headers).

The tempo, as many here have pointed out, is so slow that by the time Celtic have passed the halfway line they are facing 2 rows of 4. The difference now is that Petrov at least could run at people from central MF.


Certainly we don't have Stan P anymore, but Brown and Donati now cover that role of attacking from the midfield, passing to Aidan and Naka on the wings (under MON we had Lubo and Agathe), under WGS we have JVOH to knock the ball into, under MON we had BBJ (Hartson), so have things really changed that much?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 14, 2008, 10:57:31 AM
I don't disagree that MON side played very direct football at times. They did however, when he got over the hoodoo of his first SPL title start to play a lot of entertaining football too.

It annoys me though that WGS has everyone believing him when he trots out the aul patter about his Celtic side playing good passing football. The majority of Celtics play involves the MF passing square /back/ wide (heaven forbid they actually go forward) to the fullbacks or "beckenbaur" Caldwell to hump the ball up to JVoH (a 6'5" forward who can't win headers).

The tempo, as many here have pointed out, is so slow that by the time Celtic have passed the halfway line they are facing 2 rows of 4. The difference now is that Petrov at least could run at people from central MF.


Certainly we don't have Stan P anymore, but Brown and Donati now cover that role of attacking from the midfield, passing to Aidan and Naka on the wings (under MON we had Lubo and Agathe), under WGS we have JVOH to knock the ball into, under MON we had BBJ (Hartson), so have things really changed that much?
imo yes
JVOH is not a traditional 'british style' centre forward.
He is a footballer. He happens to be tall.
Niall quinn was tall but shite in the air. JVOH is decent in the air, but not with his back to goal (Like quinn).
Brown is a runner in mf. The midfield is faster at covering these dys, but the problem is they play the ball about at a pace way too slow that allows the opposition get back into position.
McGeady has finally matured and is delivering on his promise.
Donati could be brilliant if he stopped giving the ball away with slack passes every second ball.
Unlik eMONs teams that were fantastic in the back four, GS has an attacking RB, whole hearted but guile-less cb's with  LB that is lovable but breaks your heart with rash tackling and bad positioning.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 14, 2008, 11:05:44 AM
Lynchbhoy, while I'd agree with your defensive comparisons between MON and WGS, I believe that this is the big difference between these teams, MON had a good solid defense, while most of the players WGS has bought (defenders and all) seem to have an attacking element to their game. Now while this could be seen as good, it will only work with a solid CB and a Lennonesque CM, neither of which we have at the minute. Also if you want to have an attacking team, you need them to be able to PASS the fecking ball!!  :(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 14, 2008, 01:32:46 PM
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Brown and Donati now cover that role of attacking from the midfield

How many goals from MF have Donati, Brown, Hartley and Sno got between them this year from Midfield? Feel free to add Jiri's contrbution to the total also............... ;)

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under MON we had Lubo and Agathe

Lubo wasn't a winger...............yr thinking of Thompson

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Donati could be brilliant if he stopped giving the ball away with slack passes every second ball

If my auntie had b*lls..................................she'd be...................

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Unlik eMONs teams that were fantastic in the back four, GS has an attacking RB

And what............ Jackie Mac wasn't an attacking RB???? FFS man.

Anyway - MON typically played 3-5-2 as well, negating the traditional Full Back Role so comparisons with WHS fullbacks are a bit pointless
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 14, 2008, 02:20:02 PM
Lynchbhoy, while I'd agree with your defensive comparisons between MON and WGS, I believe that this is the big difference between these teams, MON had a good solid defense, while most of the players WGS has bought (defenders and all) seem to have an attacking element to their game. Now while this could be seen as good, it will only work with a solid CB and a Lennonesque CM, neither of which we have at the minute. Also if you want to have an attacking team, you need them to be able to PASS the fecking ball!!  :(
would agree, but Celtic need a defense first.
I think the midfield could be good, but having to hand hold and babysit the defense all the time means they are on the back foot and cant help out going forward more quickly as is required.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 14, 2008, 02:24:53 PM
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Brown and Donati now cover that role of attacking from the midfield
How many goals from MF have Donati, Brown, Hartley and Sno got between them this year from Midfield? Feel free to add Jiri's contrbution to the total also............... ;)
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under MON we had Lubo and Agathe
Lubo wasn't a winger...............yr thinking of Thompson
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Donati could be brilliant if he stopped giving the ball away with slack passes every second ball
If my auntie had b*lls..................................she'd be...................
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Unlik eMONs teams that were fantastic in the back four, GS has an attacking RB
And what............ Jackie Mac wasn't an attacking RB???? FFS man.
Anyway - MON typically played 3-5-2 as well, negating the traditional Full Back Role so comparisons with WHS fullbacks are a bit pointless
Mon played a 442 when it suited , and did so for more or lest his last two years as manager. Jackie mac was past it for the last couple of years and a liability imo (but not of most others I accept).Neither a great defender or a decent attacking full back - he couldnt cross the ball. He was originally a decent midfielder - where he preferred to play.
Lubo did a lot of good work as a wide midfielder (if not a 'winger').
Donati will hopefully cut out his mistakes and utilise his pace and athleticism.
How many goals has Brown setup this season if not scored. Hartley too. Bit harsh on them.
Celtic are sroring loads via McDonald and JVOH. Dont need anyone else scoring although we know there are plenty of others who can score (when they are not hitting the woodowrk - 6 times in last two games!)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 14, 2008, 04:18:57 PM
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Dont need anyone else scoring

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttttt?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 14, 2008, 04:56:55 PM
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Dont need anyone else scoring

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttttt?
do you not think mcDonald , JVOH, Samaras and McGeady are scoring enough ?

usually I would like to see a greater spread of goals, but as there is normally only a certain amount of goals scored in a game, would you prefer if the defenders and midfielders all scored the goals and the strikers didnt ?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on March 14, 2008, 05:23:52 PM
Regardless of personal opinion of whether Strachan is up to it or not,
do you think he will be there come next August?


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on March 14, 2008, 10:37:17 PM
Regardless of personal opinion of whether Strachan is up to it or not,
do you think he will be there come next August?

Why not? His record of success is up there with the best managers the club has had. Celtic are scoring quite freely in the league, it's the two centre halfs, who in my opinion are under performing, that is causing the bother. As stated Caldwell is at best a utility player, and should be used as such. I'll get crucified for this, but McManus isn't up to scratch. Could become a dominant centre half, but isn't the deal yet. Should never have been made captain of the team. Possibly that is were Strachan has made his biggest mistake.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 15, 2008, 10:33:33 AM
Regardless of personal opinion of whether Strachan is up to it or not,
do you think he will be there come next August?

Why not? His record of success is up there with the best managers the club has had. Celtic are scoring quite freely in the league, it's the two centre halfs, who in my opinion are under performing, that is causing the bother. As stated Caldwell is at best a utility player, and should be used as such. I'll get crucified for this, but McManus isn't up to scratch. Could become a dominant centre half, but isn't the deal yet. Should never have been made captain of the team. Possibly that is were Strachan has made his biggest mistake.
no - I agree with you.
GS has made many many tactical and formation mistakes as well as personnel selection and who he bought etc as well.

a 'utility' room in some parts of america is actually a toilet ! ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on March 16, 2008, 12:33:55 PM
I like Strachan and have a respect for him and his coaching ideas.
But I just don't see that the team is playing any better now than his first season, in fact they look worse for wear.

I am just wondering what are the chances of him still being in charge next season, say in the likely event of Rangers winning the league by a comfortable 6+ points and then rubbing it in with winning the Cup.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 16, 2008, 08:42:11 PM
I know its not Celtic but this is the closest thing to a Scottish football thread on here and I thought it was worth commenting on Dundee United's performance in the CIS Cup final today. They really outplayed Rangers and were very unlucky to be beaten. Crazy back pass unfortunately by Kerr in the 85th minute which let Rangers get the equaliser than after United going ahead again in extra time they conceded another somewhat soft goal. Always feared Rangers would do it on penalties. Poor call by the ref to deny United a certain penalty at 1-0 but so often those calls go against the wee team. You have to feel for Eddie Thomson who is seriously ill, his team gave him their all and deserved to win the cup for him.

If only Celtic had left Robson there till the end of the season!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on March 18, 2008, 09:40:51 PM
That's not good. Beat 1-0 by Aberdeen. Even McGeady looks like he's lost that spark now.
Christ Alan Maybury looked like an outstanding defender there tonight.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on March 18, 2008, 09:48:14 PM
absolute rubbish - cant even score at home any more. brown and donati awol again but a lot of blame has to lie with wgs.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 18, 2008, 10:37:07 PM
Just makes winning the league even more important now, although for the first time this season, I'm having my doubts as to weither we can do it! Starting to run out of excuses for WGS as well.  :-\

hail hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 19, 2008, 12:25:41 AM
More sh*t served up at Parkhead tonight as Celtic try the fans patience even further.

No plan B, not even a plan A FFS as once again Celtic resort to humping the ball into the box.

WGS bemoans the fact chances were created but not taken.......................who brought in JVoH, Samaras, Riordan (6 minutes to come in from the cold and save the game...........aye right Gordon), Killen et al.

Now though even Skippy and Aidinho look well off the pace. You really have to question  his man mangement and tactics (lack of) when established internationals who have flourished elsewhere stumble around incoherantly at CP.

Graveson wnet from being unstoppable at Everton, good at RM when played in position to being headless at Celtic. Jiri went from being a scoring CMF payer in the EPL to a bit part winger / forward in Scotland. Brown went from most promising tlent in the SPL to a no-mark. 1mill spent on Robson and.............................Donati, the £12mill Italian, most capped u-21 player looks aimless. Naka who wowed in his first season should not even make the bench on current form.

Balde the best defender at CP is frozen out, as is Riordan, the best finisher. O'Dea looks set to leave and I would imagine Artur and Aidinho are not far behind him.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 19, 2008, 01:04:46 PM
I am struggling as well with reasons to retain Strachan. For example, kenny Miller looked the part for Derby against Man Ure on Saturday. Could it be that wee Gordon's success in the last two years was brought about by a shite Huns team and management? When you consider the respective budgets at their disposal you have to say that Wattie Smith is doing a far better job. Remember the huns couldn't compete for Scott Brown. Mehinks that Dermot Desmond will be looking a payback in terms of trophies for the outlay. If the Huns win the treble (they haven't a sweat in the UEFA Cup) then Strachan is on his bike, no doubt.

Also anyone else think we're missing Lennon's bite this season? Never thought I'd be saying that but it seems that Neil's contribution was more than valuable in years gone by. At least he injected a bit of passion
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on March 19, 2008, 02:06:41 PM
It wasn't unusual for Kenny Miller to "look the part" in the Hoops but not finish any chances, just like he's probably doing for Derby (haven't seen many of their games).  He's a shite finisher so no point keeping him to play centre forward, if we played 4-3-3 i think he'd maybe have done a job at right-wing-forward though.

I've been a supporter of Strachan until fairly recently (my view is that you couldn't argue with 2 leagues, 1 Cup, 1 League Cup and getting to last 16CL) but I feel that if the Huns win the domestic treble this season he'll have to go as he'll have lost the part of the crowd who are still with him.  The last few performances have been totally insipid in attack.  It shows how much the team has been relying on the creativity of Aidenho and the scoring form of Skippy, with them 2 having went slightly off the boil in the past few games there is no cutting edge.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on March 19, 2008, 02:21:33 PM
For me the fact that we won all round us the last 2 years was because Rangers were so Shiite and unorganised, but when Walter Smith took over he installed a bit of fight into them and with a few simple (and not flash) signings they are taking the piss out of us. The fact the WGS still insists Caldwell is better than Balde is beyond belief and as for the midfield Naka has had about 2 good games this year. I don't wanna go thru the whole team as i would find only a few to have a good word on, his signings are poor and for me he has lost the dressing room or he simply can't motivate the players.

AS for Neil Lennon, the fella never got the recognition he deserved. I spoke to Henrik Larsson in Milan 3 years ago after the CL game against AC and he told me he loved having him in the Celtic team as did all the players. Yes he never was gonna beat 3 men and put the ball into the top corner of the net but the donkey work he done and the possesion he kept for Celtic was immense.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 19, 2008, 02:32:48 PM
Question is, who would replace Strachan?

My preference would be Davie Moyes but I can't see him leaving the premiership where he is building a glowing reputation with Everton. Mark Mc Ghee I have never been convinced about and its too early for the likes of Lambert etc. Mick Mc Carthy?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on March 19, 2008, 02:41:37 PM
Question is, who would replace Strachan?

My preference would be Davie Moyes but I can't see him leaving the premiership where he is building a glowing reputation with Everton. Mark Mc Ghee I have never been convinced about and its too early for the likes of Lambert etc. Mick Mc Carthy?

McGhee, John Hughes, maybe even McCarthy would be mentioned since they played for Celtic but I would be unconvinced by all of them.  Moyes would be brilliant but an unrealistic target.  Billy Davies perhaps?  I wonder would Roy Keane consider it?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on March 19, 2008, 02:41:44 PM
neil lennon had limitations as a footballer (i.e. he was no ronaldhino) but he was hard and had fight, pride and passion etc and these qualities more than made up for any such limitations. how many of the current celtic team have similar qualities? bobo balde is another very underated player and it beggars belief that he cant get a game as he would get stuck in the same way lenny would have.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on March 19, 2008, 02:53:41 PM
would gus hiddink be an unrealistic target?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 19, 2008, 03:22:09 PM
would gus hiddink be an unrealistic target?
he might not want to talk to Celtic after having been verbally given the job only for Dermot Desmond to go out and get MON who took the job instead.

Strachan is not as good a coach as many attributed him to be.
Tactically he is inept, team selection poor if not puzzling, player purchasing is very hit and miss - mostly miss imo.
Celtic going through a bad spell right now. Cant score in the last number of games in relation to the amount of chances they get.
Route one is fine if you have a BBJ or Sutton, not if you have tall strikers  - who prefer the ball on the deck as JVOH and Samaras do.
Celtic do not up the tempo enough. they slow the game down and allow opposition defenses to settle.
Poor coaching. They dont spread the defense enough when attacking and their own defense are game but poor. Hinkel looks decent. The other three not good enough.
Rangers are also poor, but are playing to a decent style and gameplan.
Celtic last night lost their discipline and went route one from 60 mins onwards, when there were goals to be had - esp if they got further down the wing and crossed from there.
If rangers win, it might be better for Celtic. That way strachan might get replaced.
I have not been comfortable with the guy ever since I saw his shambolic management over the artmedia bratislava debacle.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on March 19, 2008, 03:30:19 PM
Question is, who would replace Strachan?

My preference would be Davie Moyes but I can't see him leaving the premiership where he is building a glowing reputation with Everton. Mark Mc Ghee I have never been convinced about and its too early for the likes of Lambert etc. Mick Mc Carthy?

Mogga
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 19, 2008, 03:34:11 PM
True. Celtic struggled profusely against a mediocre Aberdeen team in two matches. You might be able to excuse one bad performance but not two. Also money has been made available to Strachan and he has been given more than goodwill by the fans. At last year's AGM he got a standing ovation.

I can't see the likes of Mc Geady, Nakamura, Boruc and Brown hanging around for long if they don't win anything this season.

A great little player who I had the privilege of watching on a few occasions, Strachan alas has done little or nothing to warrant the post of Celtic Manager in his managerial career.His track record with Southampton and Coventry was nothing to write home about. Even qualifying for the knockout stages for the last two CL Campaigns owed more to luck than shrewd tactical planning and remember Mc Leish did this in his last season with the huns.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on March 19, 2008, 03:37:21 PM
would gus hiddink be an unrealistic target?

He seems to be want to try his hand at all sorts of jobs(not just the very high-profile leagues) so he might be prepared to come to Scotland, if the money was right of course.  I hadn't thought of him but he has excellent pedigree.

Lynchboy- in fairness he recovered well from Bratislava, and got the team playing some nice football that season.  Your correct about the tempo now though, its often far too slow and easy to defend against if the opposition pack the midfield.  Poor to watch most of the time as well. 

Leaving aside managerial targets, we all seem to agree that there's a lot of shit players there who will have to be cleared out if anyone will take them.  What realistic targets are there to go for in the summer?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 19, 2008, 03:47:40 PM
Lynchboy- in fairness he recovered well from Bratislava, and got the team playing some nice football that season.  Your correct about the tempo now though, its often far too slow and easy to defend against if the opposition pack the midfield.  Poor to watch most of the time as well. 
I disagree. Plenty of other times GS has got it so wrong tactically you have to wonder does he learn from his mistakes.
Inded even recently, Celtic were chasing the game in barcelona and he went with a 451 and dropped his top scoring striker.
The year after Bratislava GA was guilty of not playing a safer game away from home and very nearly cost Celtic CL access.

He is either arrogant or dumb - maybe both.

Mowbray may do a decent job, McGhee has had good and bad success. McCarthy has stagnated and I would not like him to become manager.
Would love to see MON return. Moyes might be in with a shout.
Billy davies wouldnt dare ever take the Celtic job - he would lose his place in the local lodge.
I'd like to see George Graham or George burley get the Celtic job - if not a bigger name like hiddink. Wouldnt mind moyes or Mowbray either.
Keane too untested as is Lambo.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on March 19, 2008, 05:21:03 PM
We're all forgetting something "the Celtic Board love the we ginger c**t" as he's not demanding big money for players who will demand top wages and as far as they are concerned he brought in success and money for the last 2 years. Why change to a top manager who will demand 15-20 million for players and pay them top bucks. All Celtic are concerned about is paying of their debt (which is understandable to a certain extent) but we are going nowhere fast.

Not sure how many games Celtic (nearly said "We" check out the other thread) have played this year and i can only recall about 5-6 games where i was pleased with the performance and football from the team. Now when you take into consideration the dirt we have been playing it's just unacceptable...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 19, 2008, 05:31:37 PM
Should be said also that it was a good win for Aberdeen who should have finished Celtic off in the first game really. Must say I was pretty disgusted by those Celtic fans who threw their scarves onto the park at full-time (their 'support' through the game was poor as well). Its all very well to be turning out for the big European games and belting out You'll Never Walk Alone but support for the team is maybe even more important when theyre struggling. It was wanting last night.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: stiffler on March 19, 2008, 05:55:34 PM
We hear enough of Roy Keane as Sunderland mananger, i dont think I could take it if he was in charge of the hoops!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 20, 2008, 11:37:46 AM
I think that Illdecide has hit the nail on the head, the board and Lawwell have the final say on this one, and I think that WGS gives them the cheapest option.
With the Hun facing another replay in the SC (lets remember that their not that good either, the Arabs should have beaten them last Sun, Partick give them a hard one last night, and by all accounts should have had a penalty) their fixture congestion is getting ridiculous, it WILL have a bearing on where the league is going this season. Ferguson playing when injured, Cousin out for a month, who next, fatigue will set in.


Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 20, 2008, 11:43:21 AM
Actually read Strachan in the View this week and he emphasises the relative youth of the team and the missing vital experience needed to turn crucial tight games. He reckons this will come in time. A fair enough point I suppose and it shows just how badly Lennon is being missed currently. Then again he continues to ignore the experience of Bobo etc
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Hound on March 20, 2008, 11:45:19 AM
Actually read Strachan in the View this week and he emphasises the relative youth of the team and the missing vital experience needed to turn crucial tight games. He reckons this will come in time.
Might explain his interest in bringing in Harry Kewell on a free this summer
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on March 20, 2008, 12:53:06 PM
I think that Illdecide has hit the nail on the head, the board and Lawwell have the final say on this one, and I think that WGS gives them the cheapest option.
With the Hun facing another replay in the SC (lets remember that their not that good either, the Arabs should have beaten them last Sun, Partick give them a hard one last night, and by all accounts should have had a penalty) their fixture congestion is getting ridiculous, it WILL have a bearing on where the league is going this season. Ferguson playing when injured, Cousin out for a month, who next, fatigue will set in.
Hail Hail
Rangers tripping over themselves for a third year in a row  doesn´t make Strachan a better manager for Celtic.

It´s obvious is that it´s a team with a massive support of 60k average.
But the real profit comes from TV/CL/sponsorship money, not ticket sales.

Celtics finances have benefited radically from cutting wages and continued CL participation.
 
The finances look good to me,
from
2004 /05  turnover £62m  wages £38m  loss  £8m
to
2006/07      turnover  75m   wages  36m  profit 15m
I don´t know what the long term debt is, I´d guess it´s relatively small.

Finish a well beaten second in the league, out of the cup, a dicey CL qualifier to negotiate next season, discontent on the terraces. 
If the argument is that Strachan is good for the finances then it´s still conditional on a minimum level of football success.
Where is the boards minimum level?

I think it would be good for Strachan´cv to get out at the end of the season while he is ahead.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 20, 2008, 08:48:07 PM
Lets just have a look at WGS's transfer dealings.........now this from a man who spent 1.5 years travelling the globe watching football.................

Telfer - rubbish
Du Wei - rubbish
Aliadiere - rubbish
Mo Camara - rubbish
Adam Virgo - rubbish
Boruc - superb
Mark Brown - rubbish
Mark Wilson - ok
Lee Naylor - rubbish
Roy Keane - average
Naka - good for 1st season and a half, rubbish since
Caldwell - rubbish
Zurawski - good for 1 season then rubbish
Kenny Miller - rubbish
Jiri Jarosik - played out of positition until he just didn't care
Tommy G. - rubbish
JVOH - Good first season - rubbish now
Andy Hinkel - unproven
Sno - rubbish
Killen - rubbish
McDonald - alright for ther money paid
Scott Brown - rubbish
Donati - rubbish
Barry Robson - waste of money
Paul Hartley - rubbish
Steven Pressley - rubbish
Koki Mizuno - for future
Ben Hutchison - has he got a game yet?
Derek Riordan - wasted money - never given a proper chance
Dion Dublin - rubbish
Samaras - average
Doumbe - jury out

Not the best record there eh Gordon?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Over the Bar on March 20, 2008, 09:25:50 PM
Strachan was brought in a cheapo option as MON's team had to be rebuilt from scratch due to non-financing of MON in his later tenure and ther was little to fund rebuilding.

Strachan managed to win 2 titles in his first 2 seasons as well as his CL last 16 achievements and deserves as much if not more credit than McLeish who was brought in at Rangers under similar circumstances.   

Strachan's record speaks for itself and  I thank him for what he's done even if it looks now like Rangers will go on to dominate for the next few years under Smith - a superb manager, the likes of which Celtic deserve but the bungling board could not attract to Parkhead.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 20, 2008, 11:12:26 PM
Lets just have a look at WGS's transfer dealings.........now this from a man who spent 1.5 years travelling the globe watching football.................

Telfer - rubbish
Du Wei - rubbish
Aliadiere - rubbish
Mo Camara - rubbish
Adam Virgo - rubbish
Boruc - superb
Mark Brown - rubbish
Mark Wilson - ok
Lee Naylor - rubbish
Roy Keane - average
Naka - good for 1st season and a half, rubbish since
Caldwell - rubbish
Zurawski - good for 1 season then rubbish
Kenny Miller - rubbish
Jiri Jarosik - played out of positition until he just didn't care
Tommy G. - rubbish
JVOH - Good first season - rubbish now
Andy Hinkel - unproven
Sno - rubbish
Killen - rubbish
McDonald - alright for ther money paid
Scott Brown - rubbish
Donati - rubbish
Barry Robson - waste of money
Paul Hartley - rubbish
Steven Pressley - rubbish
Koki Mizuno - for future
Ben Hutchison - has he got a game yet?
Derek Riordan - wasted money - never given a proper chance
Dion Dublin - rubbish
Samaras - average
Doumbe - jury out

Not the best record there eh Gordon?

tyroneman you are unbelievably harsh on some of these lads! Robson only joined a few weeks ago and has done fine so far yet he is branded rubbish! Similarly Hartley has been quite effective in the holding role but he is rubbish as well? Scott Brown - a young lad who has done well until running into a sticky patch of late. He's rubbish too though ;D. Poor old Scott McDonald is "arite for the money paid". How many goals has the lad scored?? There's a few more there who dont deserve the abuse you are dishing out. And dont forget Saint MON made a few shocking signings as well (indeed the mighty Mo Camara was one he was working on and passed on to Strachan). Id agree that WGS's signing record is up and down but you need to have a bit more perspective here!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Over the Bar on March 20, 2008, 11:20:04 PM
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Naka - good for 1st season and a half, rubbish since

Wise up you moron.  One of the best dead ball speacialists in Europe who's inconsistency can largely be blamed on injuries attributable to Scottish refs allowing him to be kicked to death by muck-savage opposition with little or no protection afforded.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 21, 2008, 10:30:16 AM
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Wise up you moron.  One of the best dead ball speacialists in Europe who's inconsistency can largely be blamed on injuries attributable to Scottish refs allowing him to be kicked to death by muck-savage opposition with little or no protection afforded

Leaving aside the fact you can't engage in a structured debate without reducing yourself to childish insults............

As I said before he's been nothing more than a special teams player this season. There are plenty of dead ball specialists in Europe sure, there are also plenty in non-league football - it doesn't make them great players.  Naka this year has been a one trick pony,an opinion which you will find is commopnly held, if you speak to the vast majority of Celtic fans, or even peruse the Celtic messageboards.

Ask yourself why Strachan refused to start him in the last OF, despite being fit enough to play. You can't excuse poor form on injuries for this long..at some stage you have to hold your hand up and declare you are either fit or not fit to play. If you are fit you get on with it.

Ask yourself how many games this year and the latter half of last year he has started and contributed zero (outside of free kicks) in.

Ask yourself why a host of European giants were not beating down the door to sign him if he is such a superstar (and factor in the enormous revenue he generates too). Not even mediocre Euro clubs were bothered enough to chase him to any significant degree.

Larsson, Lubo, Collins, Johnson even McGeady are all examples of flair players who managed to survive and excell in the Scottish league without protection from referees. In fact the bias shown against these players was much much worse than Naka gets.

The fact that Naka has zero b*lls for a scrap in a game is his responsibility alone. In Italy and Spain the defenders  are every bit as cynical yet Robinho, Messi et all seem to do alright.

so have a think on these points and come back with something approching a reasoned argument (other than he takes great free kicks and has nasty defenders stopping him play)before calling someone else a moron.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on March 21, 2008, 11:03:15 AM
Lads usualy when 2 tyrone men are fighting i'd sit back and watch ;) :D but this time it's time to break it up. We are only expressing our views (either right or wrong). The fact of the matter is that WGS is not cut out to be a top Celtic manager and majority of his signings prove this. Also his motivation skills seem to be zero as Walter Smith can seem to motivate a pile of dung and WGS cannie.

My opinion is that he was very lucky in first 2 years to come up with no resistance from any other club in Scotland and now when it's put up to him he's cracking like an egg. I'm personaly fed up with his excusses like "we were unlucky", "we hit the bar/post 5 million times" whatever. The fact of the matter is we have played shite all year with the exception of about 6 games and our results show this "drawing with St Mirren, dundee UTD and loosing to Abeerdeen etc etc. And another thing lads (and i'd rather win playing poor than loose playing great) in the bad old days of the 90's when the Huns were dominating Celtic could still play attractive football and were a treat to watch, they had some flair but now when you watch them it's like Irish League standard...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on March 28, 2008, 01:23:27 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7318430.stm

apparently uefa are investigating sectarian chanting at the nou camp. could have bad repercussions for celtic
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Mentalman on March 28, 2008, 01:34:31 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/7318430.stm

apparently uefa are investigating sectarian chanting at the nou camp. could have bad repercussions for celtic

Just read it over on BBC, could have some interesting reprocussions for all fans. By that I mean if this is punished, then any clubs fans singing songs can be punished, irrespective of whether the songs are targetted at the opposition or not - I doubt many Catalunians took umbridge with Scots/Irish singing songs about the IRA or the British royalty (not known as monarchists themselves by and large) - or if the incidents happen inside the ground or not. The other point would be who banned the songs, and what constitutes sectarianism? Could this lead to punishments for singing songs about Munich or Hillsborough? Maybe it should?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Yer Ma on March 28, 2008, 01:49:20 PM
Rangers got away with it in the end last time, didn't they?

I don't know why Celtic fans can't grab the moral high ground and just not bother with these songs, who's impressed in the end up?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on March 28, 2008, 01:56:12 PM
Not looking forward to this OF game tomorrow, realistically Celtic need to win in Ibrox to stay in contention but I think the best we can hope for is a fraw.  If the Huns win then the Championship is theirs IMO.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on March 28, 2008, 02:15:31 PM
I really hope and prey we can win tomorrow and get 3pts but i can't see it happening TBH. I believe we have better players but Rangers seem to have more fight in them and with it being in Ibrox and they are 3pts clear with a game in hand they know Celtic have to come at them and thats where we get punished with the old hit them on the break trick...Hope i'm wrong though...

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 28, 2008, 03:46:37 PM
would agree Illdecide
the huns only have to draw and will sit back and hit on the break (though cousins elbows will hit out at any time).

This is the test of strachan. Can he cover the frail defense, yet get have his wingers get enough penetration deep enough to swing over the crosses that would be the undoing of rangers defense (and we know JVOH and Samaras re good in the air with the right ball - ie  near corner flags and not route one from Boruc).
Does strachan have a plan A let alone A plan B.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on March 28, 2008, 04:43:04 PM
We ginger knows he's in trouble if Celtic get beat tomorrow, his excusses won't wash for much longer. It's shite or get of the toilet time for him ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 28, 2008, 08:45:32 PM
Intersting story coming out now about Barry Robson...

Sent home  "injured" according to the Scotland camp before the Croatia friendly - fair enough you might say, apart from........................

1. WGS said he was perfectly fine, fit and well , then and now
2. Robson indicated he was fit then and now...............and looked verrrryy unhappy at missing the chance of a cap
3. The Doctor who sent him home was hired by Walter Smith
4. The same doctor used to work as the team doctor for.......................yep.....Rangers
5. The meedja (paranoid - us?) were then able to say 5 OF plyers pulled out of the Scotland game due to injury...rather than the truer version of 4 Rangers players pulled out (due to a big match on saturday by any chance)......................
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tintin25 on March 29, 2008, 03:02:01 PM
Well, poor result for the bhoys today. I think to be fair Celtic at least deserved a draw, as bar the goal, Rangers created next to nothing. First half display was decent enough, long balls were working to an extent but whilst Samaras in particular did a decent job of holding it up and getting into good positions he had very little support. They overdid the long ball in the second half and the Rangers defense looked comfortable. McDonald should have been brought on earlier, at least to have time to shake things up abit. That is a very average Rangers side at best.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on March 29, 2008, 04:40:14 PM
agree it is a very average rangers side - they are a team made up of spoilers and bullies that have been grinding out results and did so again today. celtic were technically better in the 1st half and should have had a couple of goals. once rangers went ahead celtic lacked leadership though and only have themselves to blame again.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Minder on March 29, 2008, 06:19:59 PM
If that is an "average" Rangers side what does it make Celtic ?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tintin25 on March 29, 2008, 06:55:53 PM
If that is an "average" Rangers side what does it make Celtic ?

Below average. Luckily for me I only take a passing interest in their results!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on March 29, 2008, 09:51:41 PM
im gutted - not so much for the result, which was bad enough, but i thought the performance just wasnt good enough. we needed to be fighting for our lives after half time but we werent. i agree rangers are complete anti - football, but its effective when they need to be i.e werder bremen. we never tested them at all, apart from a few half chances for brown. i was impressed with samaras when he got the ball to feet he looked good. just never got proper support. think the league is gone. hope im wrong
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyroneman on March 29, 2008, 10:03:20 PM
Strachan has singluarly failed to realise that you need some dig and grit to win in the SPL.

MON knew what was needed when he took over and ensured the teams  he put out were stocked with ball winners and men who could handle themselves. Lambert, Valhaaren, Mjalby, Sutton, Lennon, Thompson, Larsson (even) to name a few. These guys fought for the jersey and bullied Rangers every chance they got.

When LeGuen was in charge he reduced Rangers to one of thier worst squads in recent memory and gift wrapped the SPL for Strachan.

Walter Smith, while playing anti-football, went back to basics and made sure he had plenty of diggers and scrappers in the team - now Celtic are getting bullied and can't cope .

Who in the current Celtic team has any fight in them? Certainly not Naka (was he playing today?, did anyone notice?)

Now we have a team with no style, no ba*lls and no heart. Strachan is a disgrace and needs to go. Now.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on March 29, 2008, 11:33:18 PM
If that is an "average" Rangers side what does it make Celtic ?

how many times does the best team on paper win? lionel messi didnt come out with his anti-football rant for nothing. if the huns were to play man utd for example over 2 legs in the next couple of weeks utd would probably only win 1-0 yet utd are at a completely different level. do you understand the concept of dragging a team down to their level? celtic are also unfortunate that the manager is shite, the huns have found a new 'andy goram' & scottish referees are still a joke. (3 minutes of injury time should have been 6 & barry ferguson can say what he wants).
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on March 29, 2008, 11:38:31 PM
lionel messi didnt come out with his anti-football rant for nothing.

What rant did Messi come out with clarshack??
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on March 30, 2008, 12:16:10 AM
Two words, fucing Caldwell. Not good enough for the youth team. Reason he's supposed to be getting games ahead of Balde and O'Dea is because he's better on the ball. Well I lost count of the amount of balls he floated onto a Rangers head, rubbish, bring back Virgo  ::). Don't think Brown is cut out for the attacking midfield role, put him in front of the back four and get rid of Donati, Hartley and the rest and get a decent attacking midfielder in. Strachan left it too late to change the game, not looking good for him, would love to get Moyles in. Celtic have thrown the league away but playing in Scotland doesn't exactly give them a fair crack of the whip, Premiership please and ASAP Mr. Desmond!!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: stew on March 30, 2008, 11:40:05 PM
Two words, fucing Caldwell. Not good enough for the youth team. Reason he's supposed to be getting games ahead of Balde and O'Dea is because he's better on the ball. Well I lost count of the amount of balls he floated onto a Rangers head, rubbish, bring back Virgo  ::). Don't think Brown is cut out for the attacking midfield role, put him in front of the back four and get rid of Donati, Hartley and the rest and get a decent attacking midfielder in. Strachan left it too late to change the game, not looking good for him, would love to get Moyles in. Celtic have thrown the league away but playing in Scotland doesn't exactly give them a fair crack of the whip, Premiership please and ASAP Mr. Desmond!!!

Balde is exactly the type of player celtic need when playing rangers, where was he yesterday????

Strachan deserves a chance to turn this around lads.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on March 31, 2008, 12:12:38 AM
Typical load of sh*ite on here about Scottish referees and Rangers "anti-football. Far be it from to defend Smith (hate the guy) and his team but Messi only said that because his Barca team had failed to break Rangers down at Ibrox. Afraid my predicition on this thread at the start of the season (which many rubbished) that Rangers under Smith would be major contenders has been proved right. Just hope they dont do the treble now :'(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on March 31, 2008, 10:03:35 AM
The "anti football" jibe is a standby Barca jibe against teams who sit back and try and hang on against them. Rijkaard said the same about Celtic after the 1-1 in Barcelona, something like  'after Celtic equalised they played a sort of anti football'.

Like MON, Strachan has his favorites, problem is they are not functioning very well.




Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 31, 2008, 10:46:19 AM
Piss poor result, but S Dougal has to take some critisism for a shite performance yesterday (weither it was intensional or not!  :o).
Rankers did what they had to and got three points with an average performance, Celtic just didn't have the fire in their bellies, Aidan, Samaras, Brown and Artur had decent enough games, but wtf Naylor and Caldwell and Naka, how many balls did we lose from poor passing from these three players. As for JVOH why oh why was McDonald left on the bench for soooooooooooo long! Feck sake he should have started the game.

Now I still believe that we can win the league, the Orcs fixture list WILL have a bearing in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on March 31, 2008, 11:12:02 AM
Piss poor result, but S Dougal has to take some critisism for a shite performance yesterday (weither it was intensional or not!  :o).
Rankers did what they had to and got three points with an average performance, Celtic just didn't have the fire in their bellies, Aidan, Samaras, Brown and Artur had decent enough games, but wtf Naylor and Caldwell and Naka, how many balls did we lose from poor passing from these three players. As for JVOH why oh why was McDonald left on the bench for soooooooooooo long! Feck sake he should have started the game.

Now I still believe that we can win the league, the Orcs fixture list WILL have a bearing in the coming weeks.

You saved me writing a log post there Gaoth as i agreed with most of you're post with the exception of you're last line. Celtic lost the league on Sat and thats it, there's no coming back from that. How Naka stayed on the pitch is beyound me and yes that man Calwell what else can we say about him that hasn't already been said. Tell ya what McDonald looked well pissed off and i got the impression when he came on that he didn't give a fcuk (hope i'm wrong)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on March 31, 2008, 11:15:40 AM
From a ni perspective, and from the bits i watched in the pub, I thought Davis did well enough in the middle of the park - though to look good there all that was really needed was to maintain possesion, something which as you guys said was not happening.

The best bit was I am in Tokyo at the moment so i was giving it all the banter with a few of the locals about who was the better midfielder - Davis (who they had never heard of) or Naka  :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 31, 2008, 11:33:31 AM
From a ni perspective, and from the bits i watched in the pub, I thought Davis did well enough in the middle of the park - though to look good there all that was really needed was to maintain possesion, something which as you guys said was not happening.

The best bit was I am in Tokyo at the moment so i was giving it all the banter with a few of the locals about who was the better midfielder - Davis (who they had never heard of) or Naka  :D


On yesterdays performance - Davis

illdecide, noticed the Skippy was looking very pissed off on the bench as the game progressed (unsurprised really, considering he's the leagues top scorer!)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on March 31, 2008, 12:18:26 PM
route one v a packed defense - never going to do it when you dont have your 'typical british centre forward' as the target.
Celtic deserved feck all because they are as bad as rangers in lacking creativity and inventiveness. The only decent one two in the game got rangers their goal (ok the celtic defense are rubbish - caldwell, mcmanus and naylor - but still could have dealt with it).
Celtic didnt get up the flanks to cross the ball into the two strikers who can score (but not if they get no service).
If McGeady is going to be double teamed then you need a faster winger on the other side to take on the defense - but Naka is too fond of slowing it down and sending it back. Better used in CL games, not the faster spl speeds.
Rangers have won the league, and I hope now that Celtic can convince Strachan to leave and the next man in not continue on buying sub standard scottish 'internationals' for the Celtic team.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on March 31, 2008, 03:42:54 PM
Lads, I wouldn't get to pessimistic just yet. I can see a 2003 scenario in reverse here, where the huns have too many games and lose the league on the last day. Obviously it is incumbent upon Celtic to collect maximum points from their remaining fixtures. If they do pull it out of the fire WGS will enter the legends section in paradise
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ziggysego on March 31, 2008, 03:45:53 PM
Lads, I wouldn't get to pessimistic just yet. I can see a 2003 scenario in reverse here, where the huns have too many games and lose the league on the last day.

That's it Tony, you've just jinxed the rest of the season. Rangers will win the league now.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on March 31, 2008, 05:05:18 PM
Lads, I wouldn't get to pessimistic just yet. I can see a 2003 scenario in reverse here, where the Huns have too many games and lose the league on the last day. Obviously it is incumbent upon Celtic to collect maximum points from their remaining fixtures. If they do pull it out of the fire WGS will enter the legends section in paradise

Mr Fearon that won't happen because WGS hasn't a clue. With 2 Old Firm games still at home you'd think we should still have a shout even if we win them which i doubt who else is gonna beat them and we have to win our remaining 8 games...HELLO. Lets be realistic about this Rangers have to loose at least 3 games from 9 and Celtic have to win 8 out of 8 and hope they win it on goal difference. I'm afraid the league was lost on Sat lads and thats the end of that.

They just need a draw against us and we have to attack like feck to score "hit on the break" comes to mind. And it wouldn't surprise me if Strachan plays 1 up front against them in the next fixture...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on March 31, 2008, 10:01:25 PM
The league's gone unless Rangers collapse as spectacularly as we did in 2005, but they are too well-organised a unit for this to happen.  I think what it comes down to is that they seem to want it more.  They have poor players (Dailly centre-mid and Darcheville up on his own FFS), but they are more motivated and more confident than Celtic.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 03, 2008, 06:37:04 PM
He's back

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LENNY COMES HOME - (as a coach)
http://www.celticfc.net/news/stories/news_030408172900.aspx (http://www.celticfc.net/news/stories/news_030408172900.aspx)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on April 03, 2008, 06:44:04 PM
 ;D Best news in a while for Celtic fans
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on April 03, 2008, 07:25:13 PM
Fair play to lennon, hope he does well for himself.
When he went to forest i think he had some coaching role, but i could be wrong
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Old Bill on April 03, 2008, 07:48:19 PM
i take it that is him retired from playing then?  he was with wycombe.  That shud get the fans off WGS back altho some fans mite think that his replacement is sittin in the dug out beside him now in lennon!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Minder on April 03, 2008, 08:31:22 PM
I saw a report last week that Celtic fans were being investigated by UEFA for alleged sectarian chanting when they were in Barcelona this year,anyone hear anything more?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on April 03, 2008, 08:38:26 PM
Heard that as well minder
AFAIK UEFA have decided there is no case to answer
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 03, 2008, 09:02:58 PM
That Uefa thing had all the hallmarks of a stitchup, somebody sends in some footage to Uefa and then informs the media at the same time that Uefa are investigating Celtic fans.
The Newspaper contact Uefa, Uefa acknowledge that they have (just) received some footage and the newspaper say that UEFA are obliged to have a look at it and see if there is a case to answer.
And the BBC fell for it ;D 
What happens in Journalistic college courses?  they do go to school don't they?

There was a report the other day on the BBC,  a woman was stabbed because she was cycling through Toxteth in Liverpool.
And they kept repeating that moronic line all day.
Instead of a saying-  a woman out cycling got stabbed because she was attacked by some maniac.




 



 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on April 03, 2008, 09:09:46 PM
Anyone see Wee Gordon doing a bit of whistling on Youtube? Not exactly endearing himself to the faithful.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on April 04, 2008, 01:39:01 AM
main street,

as a student studying journalism we do go to college! and get taught not to fall for crap like that! of course there will always be one to do anything for a story
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 04, 2008, 11:00:46 AM
Fair play to you, but you didn't see through it when you referred to the original link on the BBC.
The text of the original story was full of holes.

That non story went around the airwaves on one Sports News report after another without even a superficial scrutiny of the exact content.
Newscasters with their stereotypical prejudices loudly proclaiming UEFA investigation into sectarian behaviour.
It is not just a case of the lax standards of one who will do anything for a story.
What we are left with it is the lie still resonating.



Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 04, 2008, 11:39:38 PM
Come on the Hoops, 8 games of pain to come, but hopefully tomorrow is the start of the revival, Lennies back and hopefully he can put the heart back into the dressing room - the difference between us and the Buns this season!!


Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 05, 2008, 08:18:41 PM
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Old Bill on April 06, 2008, 09:40:27 PM
FECK FECK!  Celtic beat one nil at home and the next day rangers come from behind 3 times to draw.  heard on the radio (newstalk) that someone thought that WGS had brought lennon in to get the players back on his side and that the dressing room had been lost.  likely story.  celtic have dreadful this year.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on April 07, 2008, 09:32:01 AM
D R claimed in the papers that WGS is talking thru his arse. That goes to show when you have players talking about the manager like that that he has lost the dressing room. And 85% of the Celtic fans going by the boos at Parkhead
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 07, 2008, 10:16:46 AM
every cloud...
hopefully GS will have one of his usual hissey fits and leave Celtic.
This comment from the article speaks volumes about strachan..

"I only get chucked on if we need a goal so he must think I can get him a goal but he obviously doesn't want to do it unless he really has to because he doesn't want me to prove him wrong."..... 



full article here:

DEREK RIORDAN believes the only way he will get the opportunity to prosper at Celtic is if he outlasts Gordon Strachan. The frustrated former Hibs striker says the situation has reached stalemate, with his manager so concerned with protecting his own credibility that he is unwilling to risk giving him an extended run in the team.
"I only get chucked on if we need a goal so he must think I can get him a goal but he obviously doesn't want to do it unless he really has to because he doesn't want me to prove him wrong. He knows I would score quite a lot if he played me as much as he has played the other strikers but I don't think he wants proved wrong," says Riordan. "When I speak to him he is nice to me and says all the things players want to hear about me being part of the plans but you know by his actions that he's talking rubbish.

"It is frustrating. I was left out the squad (against Motherwell yesterday] and was training with the reserves on Friday. I've virtually chucked it at Celtic, what's the point when I'm not getting a chance."

Signed in June 2006 after his 64 goals in 146 appearances caught Strachan's eye, the striker was considered one of the brightest homegrown prospects. Voted Scottish Young Player of the Year by his peers the previous year and handed his first full Scotland cap against Austria by Walter Smith, he was confident he could cement a place in the Celtic starting line up. While the champions enjoyed a wealth of attacking options in Maciej Zurawski, Kenny Miller, Craig Beattie, Stilian Petrov, Shunsuke Nakamura, Shaun Maloney and Aiden McGeady, and added Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink to the squad as the 2006/07 season got under way, Riordan says he was assured he would be considered for more than a role in the chorus line.

"I went there thinking I was going to play. It's not like I just went there for the money, I wanted to play and I thought I would do well at Celtic with the amount of chances that teams like Celtic and Rangers create. I thought I would score a lot of goals and if I was given the chance every week I still believe I could. But I've just never had the chance."

A player at the end of his tether, he feels he has wasted two years of his career and the situation has left him feeling depressed and humiliated. Especially when he is sent on in the final minutes of games against his old club. An 89th minute sub against Hibs earlier this term, he said he was hurt. "That was a kick in the teeth. That was embarrassing. I did well when I was there and some of the Hibs fans said I shouldn't go, so that was embarrassing, but it's always the same, it's the last few minutes if I do get chucked on."

He says there are times he does regret leaving Easter Road. "You see loads of other young players getting in the Scotland squad and everybody has gone ahead of me so it's very frustrating. I'm not being big-headed but I was one of the well-known ones at Hibs because I was doing so well and scoring so many goals but now you see all of them, they are the ones who are playing every week and in the Scotland squads and it's annoying. Depressing.

"I feel let down by the manager. I remember him sitting in my mum's house trying to sign me and he said I could play anywhere in his midfield or up front. It was the same in the press conferences but now I can only play left midfield for some reason and that's not even my best position.

"I have a year left of my contract in the summer but I can sign a pre-contract in December. I'm 25, I want to be playing. It will just depend if the manager is still here or who else comes in. I'll see who the next manager is before I decide. I don't want to be here and not playing but I would like to stay at Celtic if I thought I had a chance to play. I know I won't get that chance with him. I've been here nearly two years and it's not happened yet so I don't see it happening now. But Celtic are brilliant. I like it here and would love to prove myself but the nasty thing is not playing."

Fully aware that his career has stalled, he says the most upsetting aspect is that he is still at a loss to explain why. Compared to the other six strikers who have vied for the two forward berths during his period at Celtic, his goals to minutes on the park ranks him ahead of Zurawski, Miller and Beattie and only marginally behind Vennegoor of Hesselink and McDonald, who have had the luxury of extended runs in the team in a central striking role, while even Georgios Samaras has had more starts since his arrival in January than Riordan has enjoyed all season. Sitting in amongst the Celtic support at Ibrox last week – denied a place on the bench because he had a day off after his grandmother passed away – he was buoyed by their comments. "They were saying 'you should be out there playing' and that helps. The Celtic fans have been brilliant. They know something is not right. They are the only people I will thank at Celtic if I leave."

Something certainly seems awry when a club fails to score in four consecutive Old Firm games and draws a blank in four of their last six games, yet still doesn't include one of the club's form strikers in the squad. "Willie McStay was saying that I'm now top scorer in the reserves but to be honest it doesn't seem to really matter how well I do while the gaffer is at Celtic, I just don't think I will get in the team anyway for some reason. I don't know what it is. Everybody is always wondering what it is and I can't tell them because I don't even know myself. There have been loads of rumours, I'm supposed to have slept with his daughter or sister or punched him on the training ground but they are all a load of rubbish. There's nothing that I can think of I've done wrong to him. There's been no bust ups. I don't know what his problem is with me."

But there is, undoubtedly, some issue unresolved. Since joining Celtic, the player has made just 13 starts and 19 substitute appearances, amounting to a meagre 1,036 minutes of first-team football. So inexplicably out-of-favour Only An Excuse ridiculed the situation in a sketch with Strachan choosing between a blind man, a granny, a drunk and Riordan. The drunk got the nod.

"What was really hard was when we won the league last season and I didn't feel part of it," says Riordan, who made just enough outings to earn a champions medal but didn't feel he had earned it. "And the Scottish Cup final, when I didn't get on, I didn't feel part of it when we won. That was the biggest kick in the teeth because when we played Hibs in the last game of the season, I played up front with Craig Beattie and scored our only goal but the next week in the cup final Craig Beattie got on before me. I didn't even get on yet I'd scored in the game before it. Explain that one to me."

In the semi-final of the competition, against St Johnstone, Strachan was booed by the Celtic support when he took Riordan off. It offered him some solace at the time but he now fears it backfired. "A lot of people have thought that was one of the worst things that could have happened, they think he's not playing me because of that. He doesn't want to look like he is giving in to people.

"The thing is I don't mind being behind guys like Aiden McGeady, because Aiden has had a brilliant season but with other players, he just doesn't seem to change the team. They are all supposed to be big star players and that's what bugs me. Even if they play rubbish for three or four weeks on the bounce, they still get a game. The only ones he really does change are Massimo Donati and Paul Hartley."

Having bided his time, the player says he could be ready to throw in the towel. "But that doesn't matter because they are not letting me away. I don't understand why. They got me for near enough nothing, I think it was £170,000 and clubs have offered to pay a lot more than that so they would make money on me. Why not let me go instead of me wasting away in the reserves. What's that about?"

Prepared to leave in the January transfer window, the £400,000 offer tabled by Burnley was rejected by the Parkhead club, leaving the player even more downbeat. While reports suggested the club had made the decision based on finances – apparently seeking a fee closer to £1m – the forward was told it was a football decision and that he would be needed in the title run-in. Since then he has played just six minutes, sent on in the vain hope of salvaging the Scottish Cup quarter-final replay last month.

One suggestion is that the player's off-field antics have annoyed Strachan but Riordan argues he has kept his nose clean since December 2006, when he was charged in relation to an assault on a pub steward. "And I was found not guilty so that proved a point. I've not done anything wrong."

The other theory is that, like Kris Boyd, another goal-getter, the player doesn't contribute enough in all-round play. Quizzed pre-season about Riordan's projected involvement, Strachan said he didn't need convincing that the Edinburgh lad was a good player but hinted that more was required. "He has ability and talent. But it was Gary Player who said that he did a thousand press ups a day and ran up hills. When he was a kid he had talent but he enhanced it. There are people like that with talent and there are people who enhance it. There are a lot of good players here and that's why everyone needs to prepare properly, do everything right and take no chances."

It is an area of discord, with some close to the player claiming it unreasonable to expect him to improve on his weaknesses without the kind of coaching that helps born attackers embrace defensive nuances. "My game is about scoring goals. The bad part of my game is defending but it always has been and it was when I was at Hibs. He would have known that from watching me and he still signed me and said he thought I could play for Celtic. But I think I have worked hard since I went to Celtic. I think I work a lot harder than I did at Hibs. I have done everything I can to impress him."

Matters have reached a denouement following the death of both grandparents within the space of a month. On both occasions, Riordan took the followi
ng day off to be with his family and was left to languish in the stand come match day. "It just gave him another excuse to leave me out the squad. That's the way I see it. He did it when my grandad died so I expected it again last weekend." To stave off such an outcome he did consider going in but was too upset and decided in the end that his family had to come first. "I don't know what he expects. But it was just one day and it seems to be fine for other players to miss out on a day's training and they actually get put in to play the games."

Over the past two years, he has learned he is apparently subject to a different set of rules. Yesterday, as his team-mates attempted to get their title bid back on track, Riordan was away getting his hair cut. There was a time when he was considered a cut above his peers, now the disheartened talent is on the periphery, pulling the stuff out.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on April 07, 2008, 10:52:21 AM
Always thought riordan was a good wee player. Has he been poor when he has played or is he right that GS just doesnt like him?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 07, 2008, 11:49:38 AM
Always thought riordan was a good wee player. Has he been poor when he has played or is he right that GS just doesnt like him?
he's an alright player, but to be fair to him GS doesnt play him enough to get any kind of form or consistency going.
In his shoes, I'd be looking for a transfer. He's prob praying that GS leaves (as are a lot of people!)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 07, 2008, 12:24:00 PM
It's still the gripes of a player frozen out of the first team.
Riordan sounds like he had just too way much to keep in any longer and you could say has an impeccable sense of timing with the outburst.
It's damming in itself against Strachan when he picked Beattie ahead of him for the cup final.
You can understand why all the rumours were floating around in the absence of rational football reasons.
I don't know if Riordan is good enough for Celtic but he is good enough to do a good job for some team.

Essentially, Managers make mistakes & have their favourites (MON was no different), but those decisions only come under strong scrutiny when their favourites do not perform. It is the performance on the pitch that says most everything.
If Celtic were doing alright Riordan's article would hardly have registered 


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on April 07, 2008, 12:32:43 PM
i feel for riordan, he hasnt been given a chance at all.
if WGS was not going to play him he should have let him go, gave him a chance to prove himself somewhere.

it's typical that once rangers have dropped points weve already messed up beforehand. a win on saturday would have made the title run in interesting at least. now, unless rangers fall apart completely i cant see us even getting close.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on April 07, 2008, 08:27:51 PM
Don't blame Riordan for this outburst actually because it must be terribly frustrating to be in his position, and most evidence would point towards WGS being a very conniving person when dealing with other people (the way he engineered Sutton and Thompson out of the club, Alex Ferguson's comments about him in his autobiography, Riordan- always "saying the right things" but never giving the boy a chance).

Strachan's position is untenable, I just wish he'd go now rather than the end of the season.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on April 07, 2008, 11:58:13 PM
just wondering, who dus anyone think would be a good replacement for him if he does go? strachan, not riordan!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on April 08, 2008, 12:18:08 AM
just wondering, who dus anyone think would be a good replacement for him if he does go? strachan, not riordan!
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I'd love to see Guus Hiddink or Slaven Bilic -  ambitious targets but more realistic than David Moyes.

If scraping the barrell - Mick McCarthy, Mark McGhee, Tony Mowbray.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on April 08, 2008, 12:03:47 PM
The arrogant we bollix believes he's done no wrong ??? ???

does he not realise that the only team we've beat in about 2 months is Gretna (f**king Lurgan Celtic would beat Gretna) and that he has lost 4 straight old firm games without scoring a goal against the huns. Them stats might be acceptable at Coventry and Southampton but not at Celtic... >:(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on April 08, 2008, 12:06:08 PM
Just seen this on the BBC web site

Derek Riordan has refused to pay a £1000 fine and turned to the players' union after falling out with Celtic manager Gordon Strachan. (The Sun)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 08, 2008, 01:42:17 PM
It will be docked from his wages.
You got to admire Riordan, he's got balls.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 13, 2008, 05:41:18 PM
Well a good attacking performance from the Celts today, great to see Skippy and JVOH getting back into the net, its been a while, not sure about Mick McManus scoring both ends!  ;)

Hopefully that is the cart back on the tracks, now a big performance on Wed against the Hun, and I can start dreaming of the league again.  ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on April 13, 2008, 11:51:41 PM
Was at the NFL game in Letterkenny so missed this today, the general consensus on kerrydalestreet was that Hartley and Robson were excellent together in the middle.  I wonder if WGS has the bottle to keep this partnership for the game on Wednesday?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on April 14, 2008, 02:31:25 PM
Any of you guys know much of the youth team?
I hear good things about a young NI player Deaglan Bunting but havent seen him myself yet.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on April 14, 2008, 02:37:32 PM
Celtic will have to do a manure on it on Wed and play Rankers off the field and destroy them on the scoreboard to stand any chance of winning the league. The fat lady is warming up...  :'(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 14, 2008, 05:47:27 PM
Read this post on an OF forum, the thread was basically Celts and Huns slagging each other in preparation for Wed game, it has me in tears of laughter - whatever floats your boat I suppose.   ;D :D ;)


My dear friends with the blue-tinged probosci,

I can only offer my sincere and humble apologies for any misunderstanding or distress caused by your presence on this thread. Would it be presumptuous of me to think that , due to the obvious incoherence of your postings, that you're both loyal paidup member of the KKK-BNP-TFOD branch of the Wee Arra Peeple Party? As this obviously qualifies you to sit in judgement on the inferior sub-humans who often inhabit the Celtic boards, I'm therefore just a tad surprised that you've lowered yourself to partake in any form of communication - and run the high risk of infection it entails - by conversing with such lower life forms as us poor, humble tims.

However, can I suggest that you inquire of your parent of female persuasion (note: that'd be the one without horns) if she is accomplished in the fine art of using cotton thread and needle? If she answers in the affirmative, can I suggest that you point her in the direction of that area below your fringe and above that place - in most normal people a space - just above your eyebrow? (singular).

In other words, could you very kindly rejoin the rest of your fellow hunched-back, cloven-hooved chums back in that dark, dank, slimy, primordial swamp, in that hole in the cave from which you emerged?

Thank you most sincerely for your cooperation.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: his holiness nb on April 15, 2008, 01:37:53 PM
Folks, I'm not a celtic fan, but will be travelling tomorrow with my brother, who is, to see the game.
Heading via Ferry from Belfast, or wherever the port is  :-X

Whats the story with the boat over for old firm games? Given that its rangers and celtic fans going from the north, I would half expect some animosity. Am I wrong? Of are they segregated on the boat?

The last thing I want is to get my head boxed in over a team I dont even support!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 15, 2008, 02:48:32 PM
As a Dub fan who has travelled around the country on the holy grail I'd assume your survival skills are well honed by now  :)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 15, 2008, 02:59:27 PM
His Holiness, not only do Celtic and Huns fans travel in different boats, they sail to different ports, huns to Stranraer and Celts to Cairnryan! That was the case in my day anyway but I suppose a lot now go over via ryannair, easyjet etc and given that its a Celtic home game there shouldn't be too many huns from this part of the world with tickets anyway.

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: his holiness nb on April 15, 2008, 03:18:16 PM
As a Dub fan who has travelled around the country on the holy grail I'd assume your survival skills are well honed by now  :)

 ;D

Was honestly worried given the recent attacks in Belfast.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 16, 2008, 01:56:53 PM
Well its nearly upon us the most important match of the season....


From BBC

Celtic v Rangers 
 
Celtic midfielder Paul Hartley is doubtful for the Old Firm derby, while Scott Brown serves the second of a three-match suspension.

Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink, Scott McDonald and Georgios Samaras are vying for the two positions up front.

Rangers manager Walter Smith has no fresh injury worries.

Kevin Thomson is missing through suspension. Charlie Adam (knee) and DaMarcus Beasley (knee ligament) both remain on the sidelines.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Celtic: (from) Boruc, Hinkel, Caldwell, McManus, Naylor, Nakamura, Donati, Robson, McGeady, McDonald, Samaras, Vennegoor of Hesselink, M Brown, Wilson,] Sno, Hartley, Hutchinson, Killen.

Rangers: (from) McGregor, Whittaker, Weir, Cuellar, Papac, Novo, Ferguson, Dailly, Hemdani, Darcheville, McCulloch, Boyd, Naismith, Alexander, Davis, Broadfoot, Lennon, McMillan.

 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on April 16, 2008, 02:15:14 PM
Billy Connelly - The Old Firm

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bA6OwycDpfY&feature=related
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on April 16, 2008, 05:11:01 PM
I'm gonna go for a 3-2 Celtic win for tonight. I have this funny feeling there will be plenty of goals. (prob end up 0-0)

Nothing other than a win is acceptable. If we're beat tonight i can't wait to hear we ginger's excuses (We had 200,00 shots and none went in :o)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 16, 2008, 05:36:03 PM
as long as Celtic dont make mistakes or commit too many men and are caught on the break, with supply whipped in from level with 18 yard box, then they should comf win 2-0.
Rangers are a poor side, but strategically Celtic with their sieve like defense are worse. Only the Celtic midfield and strikers can win this for them. The defenders and manager wont.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on April 16, 2008, 07:52:16 PM
live on net, channel 22 for those with no sky

http://www.freeviewfootball.com/tvplayerchat.html (http://www.freeviewfootball.com/tvplayerchat.html)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on April 16, 2008, 08:07:34 PM
Screamer!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on April 16, 2008, 08:21:59 PM
some goal, mc geedy playing well
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on April 16, 2008, 09:01:24 PM
That was a good goal too.
1-1
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on April 16, 2008, 09:02:09 PM
feck
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Square Ball on April 16, 2008, 09:14:54 PM
Pen

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on April 16, 2008, 09:15:12 PM
Penalty for Celtic and red card for a Rangers boyo.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on April 16, 2008, 09:15:46 PM
Saved!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Square Ball on April 16, 2008, 09:16:18 PM
Oops
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Square Ball on April 16, 2008, 09:17:18 PM
Red card and a sending off, Rangers will take that if the score stays at 1-1
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on April 16, 2008, 09:21:26 PM
hoops need to win this, but they need to pile on the pressure and get a second
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on April 16, 2008, 09:22:41 PM
rangers doc hit with coin, f**king wnakers!!!!!!  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on April 16, 2008, 09:39:13 PM
Goal!!!!!!
2-1 Celtic!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Square Ball on April 16, 2008, 09:40:53 PM
so WGS still has a job for a wee while
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on April 16, 2008, 09:41:30 PM
Full Time
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on April 16, 2008, 09:42:07 PM
Wee diggin' match.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on April 16, 2008, 09:42:38 PM
elaborate?!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on April 16, 2008, 09:44:13 PM
good result in the end.

but is it enough??
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on April 16, 2008, 09:44:47 PM
Wee rucus as they left the pitch. Don't know what happened. Barry Ferguson in the middle of it and then walked off saying "f**king w**kers".
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on April 16, 2008, 09:53:38 PM
McManus and Ferguson at each others throats at the end. 2 red cards would suffice. That'd rule out 'Back Pass' and get Mick out of central defence.

With probably the two best wingers in the league, for the life of me, I don't understand why Celtic dont take the ball to the byline and knock crosses in. The oul hoof up to JVOH is like watching Wimbledon in the Fashanu era. I thought Celtic were lucky tonight. Rangers seemed to have them contained fairly well.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on April 16, 2008, 10:45:32 PM
I thought Celtic were lucky tonight. Rangers seemed to have them contained fairly well.

dont know what match you were watching as rangers were lucky until the winner went in. celtic should really have won comfortably 3-0. hopefully that was the huns luck starting to run out. having said that dont know why mcdonald took the penalty as venegoor is much better at them.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 16, 2008, 10:57:48 PM
Celtic more than deserved the win
over ran the huns in the first half should have scored more

great goal from Naka, still played well within what they are capable of, looked like they were toying with the huns, didnt deliver in the final third.

naylor going off was actually a blow as wilson proved again he is not good enough, although this was not his favoured position.
should have been a Celtic free kick, but ref didnt give it and novo went on unchallenged to score with a decent finish, imo Boruc should have got it anyhow.

The peno was won by Naka with a sublime shot saved by that cheat cuellar who got away with pushing JVOH all night long, shite defender well not great anyhow but decent in comparison to Celtics defence who I admit played well enough tonight - but rangers never attacked !. McDonalds peno was the perfect height, speed and three feet inside post for a one legged blind paraplegic keeper to save.

Samaras looked lively when brought on.
the winner was no more than Celtic deserved. This game Proved who is the better side. Even JVOH said something afte the game that I thought I was the only one to have seen - that Celtic played he same way and were the better team in the 0-3 loss to rangers but somehow ended up losing  after dominating !

GS did make a tactical switch by switching Naka and the superb McGeady (got kicked all night long with no yellow cards) and that lead to the goal.
After this GS seemed to run out of ideas.
Celtic if they get a bit more of a gameplan, move the ball more quickly and are coached into getting a better service - not to mention new defenders will walk the league next year.

Barry robson and hartley deserve honourable mentions for their perf tonight.

Have to also mention the scummy player that barry ferguson is. Rangers win the last four games and no hassle at the final whistle and both teams end the game in a sporting fashion, but rangers lose tonight and the unpsorting little sc**bag loses the plot.
typical rangers.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on April 16, 2008, 10:59:31 PM
I thought Celtic were lucky tonight. Rangers seemed to have them contained fairly well.

dont know what match you were watching as rangers were lucky until the winner went in. celtic should really have won comfortably 3-0. hopefully that was the huns luck starting to run out. having said that dont know why mcdonald took the penalty as venegoor is much better at them.

For all the possession, how many clear cut chances did Celtic have? Naka's screamer wasn't one of them either. As Andy Gray says 'Its all about the final third'. Yes they were rarely troubled in defence, and bossed the mid field area, but for me, there just wasn't enough penetration up front. Skippy should never have been on penalties either.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: boshiba on April 16, 2008, 11:00:34 PM
Thought Celtic played much the better football too, albeit with the help of an extra man for the last 20 or so. Ruckus at the end seemed to arise from mc manus and ferguson going at each other. Almost gave up hope after wilsons second pass into the Jock Stein and credit has to go to skippy for the lay-off, after me screaming for him to be taken off around ten mins earlier. Renewed hope, Rangers fixtures...Mc Gregors injury...Cuellars suspension...Rematch in Parkhead, its just got a lot more interesting.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 16, 2008, 11:05:49 PM
I thought Celtic were lucky tonight. Rangers seemed to have them contained fairly well.

dont know what match you were watching as rangers were lucky until the winner went in. celtic should really have won comfortably 3-0. hopefully that was the huns luck starting to run out. having said that dont know why mcdonald took the penalty as venegoor is much better at them.

For all the possession, how many clear cut chances did Celtic have? Naka's screamer wasn't one of them either. As Andy Gray says 'Its all about the final third'. Yes they were rarely troubled in defence, and bossed the mid field area, but for me, there just wasn't enough penetration up front. Skippy should never have been on penalties either.
while its hard to break down 10 men behind the ball,
what would you call the opening and shot that was scored by nakamura?
A pass, a cross, a half chance?
as the man said ....thats mad Ted !
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on April 16, 2008, 11:06:49 PM
Thought Celtic played much the better football too, albeit with the help of an extra man for the last 20 or so. Ruckus at the end seemed to arise from mc manus and ferguson going at each other. Almost gave up hope after wilsons second pass into the Jock Stein and credit has to go to skippy for the lay-off, after me screaming for him to be taken off around ten mins earlier. Renewed hope, Rangers fixtures...Mc Gregors injury...Cuellars suspension...Rematch in Parkhead, its just got a lot more interesting.

True Bosh, a lot depending on McGregors injury, although I doubt a pro keeper would come off just for the sake of it. Cuellar, I assume will get a 3 game ban and will defo miss the next OF game. BBC 606 is saying that Caldwell and Weir both got red cards after the game, not sure how reliable that would be though. If true Rankers will be without their two CB's for the visit to Parkhead. Wouldnt that be nice.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on April 16, 2008, 11:08:50 PM
while its hard to break down 10 men behind the ball,
what would you call the opening and shot that was scored by nakamura?
A pass, a cross, a half chance?
as the man said ....thats mad Ted !

I would call it a touch of class. I certainly wouldn't call it a clear cut chance. And neither, I presume, would you.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on April 16, 2008, 11:11:48 PM
Definitely not a clear cut chance. Probably not even a half chance. Just a 'fcuk this, I'll have a whack'.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 16, 2008, 11:18:12 PM
maybe you lads who want to 'walk the ball into the net' think it wasnt to be construed as a 'change' but however far away, a clear sight at goal, a man who can hit the ball and hit it accurately then thats a chance.
crap and all as friends of mine were at soccer (and myself) we'd all have a pop if the chance arose from anywhere inside 30 yards,if you dont shoot, you dont score and that goes for soccer, football, hurling , basketball, ice hockey etc etc etc

to me thats a chance, and at worst it opens up a denfense who now sees that you can and will shoot from distance and come out to tackle - therefore opening up more space inside them,
The yanks call this 'keeping the defense honest'.
 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on April 16, 2008, 11:20:56 PM
Definitely not a clear cut chance. Probably not even a half chance. Just a 'fcuk this, I'll have a whack'.

As the man says himself '..top po-agy..'

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=t1JyKuJ2OOE&rel
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on April 16, 2008, 11:23:31 PM
maybe you lads who want to 'walk the ball into the net' think it wasnt to be construed as a 'change' but however far away, a clear sight at goal, a man who can hit the ball and hit it accurately then thats a chance.
crap and all as friends of mine were at soccer (and myself) we'd all have a pop if the chance arose from anywhere inside 30 yards,if you dont shoot, you dont score and that goes for soccer, football, hurling , basketball, ice hockey etc etc etc

to me thats a chance, and at worst it opens up a denfense who now sees that you can and will shoot from distance and come out to tackle - therefore opening up more space inside them,
The yanks call this 'keeping the defense honest'.
 

And if he had skied it over.. Its not a chance in the SPL. Samaras late on had a chance when he failed to take ball and defender into the net.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on April 16, 2008, 11:24:26 PM
maybe you lads who want to 'walk the ball into the net' think it wasnt to be construed as a 'change' but however far away, a clear sight at goal, a man who can hit the ball and hit it accurately then thats a chance.
crap and all as friends of mine were at soccer (and myself) we'd all have a pop if the chance arose from anywhere inside 30 yards,if you dont shoot, you dont score and that goes for soccer, football, hurling , basketball, ice hockey etc etc etc

to me thats a chance, and at worst it opens up a denfense who now sees that you can and will shoot from distance and come out to tackle - therefore opening up more space inside them,
The yanks call this 'keeping the defense honest'.
 
Well, it was obviously a chance, otherwise it wouldn't have gone in the net. However, it was a very slim chance. Out of 100 of those chances, how many would he have scored? Anyway, what is the debate here? He scored it and took it very well.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 16, 2008, 11:29:21 PM
maybe you lads who want to 'walk the ball into the net' think it wasnt to be construed as a 'change' but however far away, a clear sight at goal, a man who can hit the ball and hit it accurately then thats a chance.
crap and all as friends of mine were at soccer (and myself) we'd all have a pop if the chance arose from anywhere inside 30 yards,if you dont shoot, you dont score and that goes for soccer, football, hurling , basketball, ice hockey etc etc etc

to me thats a chance, and at worst it opens up a denfense who now sees that you can and will shoot from distance and come out to tackle - therefore opening up more space inside them,
The yanks call this 'keeping the defense honest'.
 

we will just disagree then
it was a chance to shoot whether he scored or missed imo

And if he had skied it over.. Its not a chance in the SPL. Samaras late on had a chance when he failed to take ball and defender into the net.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 16, 2008, 11:33:01 PM
maybe you lads who want to 'walk the ball into the net' think it wasnt to be construed as a 'change' but however far away, a clear sight at goal, a man who can hit the ball and hit it accurately then thats a chance.
crap and all as friends of mine were at soccer (and myself) we'd all have a pop if the chance arose from anywhere inside 30 yards,if you dont shoot, you dont score and that goes for soccer, football, hurling , basketball, ice hockey etc etc etc

to me thats a chance, and at worst it opens up a denfense who now sees that you can and will shoot from distance and come out to tackle - therefore opening up more space inside them,
The yanks call this 'keeping the defense honest'.
 
Well, it was obviously a chance, otherwise it wouldn't have gone in the net. However, it was a very slim chance. Out of 100 of those chances, how many would he have scored? Anyway, what is the debate here? He scored it and took it very well.
imo it was a bad shot that went well
plenty of people try to place the shot and it ends up missing or being saved
nakamura imo hit it as hard as he could and it swerved and went in
dont think it was meant, it was just hit as hard as he coul dhit it - so imo not  great shot , but a lot of shots in top flight football are mis hits or are not what th shooter intended.
who gives a feck though once they go in.

our rubbish low league team found that if we shot, a lot of them went in, so in spite of being a rubbish pub side we won our league and scored tons of goals - from shooting on sight.
Rem one run of 48 goals in 11 league games....and were still out on the p**s each night before the games!
 :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on April 16, 2008, 11:44:19 PM
with caldwell red carded will bobo get a shot ye's think?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on April 16, 2008, 11:47:48 PM
with caldwell red carded will bobo get a shot ye's think?

As I say, its on 606, so dont take it as gospel. If it was GS would find someone to partner Mick, but not Bobo I think. He dosent seem to have too much time for him. Bobo would soon make Darcheville and Novo think twice in the next OF game, thats for sure
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 17, 2008, 12:00:58 AM
gs will prob look for pressley or odea before Bobo

hope its Bobo though !
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on April 17, 2008, 12:25:38 AM
Good performances tonight by Robson and Nakamura, two players labelled as "rubbish" on this thread recently ;D. Celtic were by far the better team throughout and justice was done in the end with the winner. JVH was lucky enough still to be on the park to score that goal because he did very little through the game but ultimately he justified his selection by knocking that one in. Still a long shot for Celtic to win the league but it will do them a power of good to have won that game and got the Smith monkey off their backs. The way it was going with Celtic being well on top then getting pegged back and missing a penalty it almost felt like the mid 90's again when they just couldnt beat Smith's Rangers in the big games. They came through it and got the win though and that will help them greatly. With suspensions and injuries now hitting Rangers they have a tough few weeks ahead.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on April 17, 2008, 03:06:28 AM
just back from glasgow, what an ending! i was sittin 8 seats away from the rangers fans, boy wer they sickened. i think robson was fantastic tonite, him and hartley work very well together, give the midfield more balance. great result, least makes he league interesting. if we had of drew that was it over.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 17, 2008, 09:38:46 AM
while another win against rangers would finish it up nicely , it shows that Celtic have only themselves to blame this season.
The first OF game was ticking along nicely for them untilthey committed footballing hari kiri and conceeded. Chasing the game even more they made another def boo-boo and at 2-0 down it was all over. 3-0 or more , it wouldnt have mettered, from a position of dominating the game and looking the most likely, a draw would have been the least they should have got - not a tanking.
Second of game a few weeks back, similar. All Celtic and nothing to show for it.
It was like watching the mid 90's all over again.
Last night was gojng along in a similar vein. at 1-1 I was muttering to myself something about chickens roosting and not buying left backs last summer when it was obviously required.

the next game, with the monkey most def off Strachans back, he can send his team out more relaxed and to win.
The league is over, I cant see rangers losing three games, but Celtic can steady themselves for next season - a bit like rangers did this time last year.
Strachan made some good switches - swapping McGeady and Nakamura outfoxed rangers, but Celtic didnt capitalise on that. Having two skilled wingers, the play wasnt spread enough or quickly enough from wing to wing.
Robson confounded his critics and continues to shine whenever he plays rangers (for Celtic and Dundee utd).
But Strachan is limited to not being able to make good changes when up against it - then again not many can.
Hee needs to buy in the summer - if he is there.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on April 17, 2008, 09:42:23 AM
Any word on how davis got on in the match?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 17, 2008, 10:03:48 AM
Unofficially Davis was crap, or according to the Daily Mirror, he "wont want to remember this one for long" ;D Hardly surprising as he is a Villa and Fulham reject ;D

Rumours abound that Benfica want WGS. I think if he manages to win the League he will have done enough to even silence the doubters at Celtic Park and will deserve to stay in the hot seat
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on April 17, 2008, 10:17:34 AM
Sorry tony, I should of said can anyone with a modicum of credibility tell me how davis got on.
The daily mirror nor you really cut it im afraid
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 17, 2008, 10:27:06 AM
Unofficially Davis was crap, or according to the Daily Mirror, he "wont want to remember this one for long" ;D Hardly surprising as he is a Villa and Fulham reject ;D

Rumours abound that Benfica want WGS. I think if he manages to win the League he will have done enough to even silence the doubters at Celtic Park and will deserve to stay in the hot seat

how much do they want for him...I'll organise a whip-around!

as for Davis, the only comment that I will reply with to be as kind as possible, you didnt see enough of him to really fomulate an opinion...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ThatManJimmyMagee on April 17, 2008, 10:33:15 AM
Sorry tony, I should of said can anyone with a modicum of credibility tell me how davis got on.
The daily mirror nor you really cut it im afraid

i have no idea how he got on either, but one things for sure - he wont be on in the next one after that performance!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on April 17, 2008, 11:16:58 AM
Jaysus lads, it was a chance, I was screaming at him to take a shot when it opened up for him. Barry Robson had a couple of them in the second half too I felt that he should have gambled on. Speaking of which I couldn't believe that he was hauled ashore, one of our best players on the night. We had Hartley, Caldwell and Mick marking one man, yet WGS decided to take off our attacking midfielder who was well up for it. WGS got out of jail on the night, too slow to make changes, Samaras should have been on earlier for either Hartley or Caldwell. Would love to know what sparked off de mini riot at the end, would have to echo the fact that there was no problem in the previous 4 games at taking defeat. If there is suspensions it'll work in the Celts favour, get Bobo back in the center, no nonsense defending, clean sheets and leave de attacking to the fullbacks up. The wheels could come off the Rankers wagon yet...

One question, why is our dead ball expert not our penalty taker???
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on April 17, 2008, 11:18:33 AM
as for Davis, the only comment that I will reply with to be as kind as possible, you didnt see enough of him to really fomulate an opinion...

Where rangers playing a long ball game - i saw one report saying that they where pumping the ball forward and failing to run at celtic?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ThatManJimmyMagee on April 17, 2008, 11:21:41 AM
he was shite nifan, he was shite. got over ran by Robson whom subsequently was taken off to a chorus of boos and allowed Nakamura to saunter right through the centre and nab one from 35 yards!

keeper should have saved it, even though it was moving in the air it wasnt very fiercely struck!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lfdown2 on April 17, 2008, 11:23:46 AM
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Celtic midfielder Shunsuke Nakamura unleashes an unstoppable swerving shot past Allan McGregor, as Steven Davis looks on
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on April 17, 2008, 11:34:40 AM
he was shite nifan, he was shite. got over ran by Robson whom subsequently was taken off to a chorus of boos and allowed Nakamura to saunter right through the centre and nab one from 35 yards!

keeper should have saved it, even though it was moving in the air it wasnt very fiercely struck!

Fair enough - his name isnt really appearing much on any reports im seeing - apart from the herald giving him a 7!
Thought he was very good in the last OF game and had hoped for more of the same.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 17, 2008, 11:38:28 AM
For those you can't get the BBC highlights.
Naka's  brilliant goal executed with sublime technique of the highest order.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWpmNFljKTE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWpmNFljKTE)
Anyone can see how he shaped his body to hit the ball with the outside of his left foot.
Looks like it bent 1m.to the right, then 5m to the left
Had the goalkeeper going one way then the other.


Nakas shot to win the penalty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P4SftBs6Nc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P4SftBs6Nc&feature=related)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 17, 2008, 11:40:04 AM
Jaysus lads, it was a chance, I was screaming at him to take a shot when it opened up for him. Barry Robson had a couple of them in the second half too I felt that he should have gambled on. Speaking of which I couldn't believe that he was hauled ashore, one of our best players on the night. We had Hartley, Caldwell and Mick marking one man, yet WGS decided to take off our attacking midfielder who was well up for it. WGS got out of jail on the night, too slow to make changes, Samaras should have been on earlier for either Hartley or Caldwell. Would love to know what sparked off de mini riot at the end, would have to echo the fact that there was no problem in the previous 4 games at taking defeat. If there is suspensions it'll work in the Celts favour, get Bobo back in the center, no nonsense defending, clean sheets and leave de attacking to the fullbacks up. The wheels could come off the Rankers wagon yet...

One question, why is our dead ball expert not our penalty taker???

maybe as he was on a yellow and GS decided that his abrasive game could allow the ref to 'even things up' by sending him off
so on that front I thought it was ok to take him off, but he was having a stormer all the same. Back to his Dundee utd form.
Hartley was good too.
Celtic did run out of ideas , but the prob was the slow build up from the back. Samaras should have been on earlier. I'd have went with back three - and taken wilson off again.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 17, 2008, 11:44:33 AM
as for Davis, the only comment that I will reply with to be as kind as possible, you didnt see enough of him to really fomulate an opinion...

Where rangers playing a long ball game - i saw one report saying that they where pumping the ball forward and failing to run at celtic?
he looks like a fit lad that can cover ground, and prob gets his ratings based on defensive work. I had thought he used to be an attacking midfielder ?
Never having seen him play before or not really noticing him, I dont actually know. Just from mem of reports.
Rangers have a packed midfield and offered nothing going forward. They strung passes together well in the middle of the second half when 1-1 with 5 men against 4 in the centre, it proved easy enough to do and looked good, but after that, they never really looked like scoring.
A few on both sides slipped a lot last night, whtever studs being used clearly not up to it. Not too good when the Celtic defense is porous at the best of times.
Rangers gameplan certainly didnt help showcase any talent davis may have, apart from athleticism and getting to the man with the ball and body behind the ball.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on April 17, 2008, 11:45:04 AM
One question, why is our dead ball expert not our penalty taker???

because he is just like beckham - brilliant at free kicks but sh*t at penalties.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ThatManJimmyMagee on April 17, 2008, 12:07:01 PM
he's also crap at corners, Robsons corner taking is 2nd to none - whips them in with pace and accuracy. Nakamura floats his in and sometimes he puts the ball wide before even reaching the box!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 17, 2008, 12:36:53 PM
What price now those three points squandered at home to Motherwell recently?

We have many reasons to be optimistic. Smith is not too hot when under pressure, he couldn't hack it at Everton and couldn't hack it in the 1990's when in the one season when Wim's Tim's did take the challenge right to the wire in 1997/98 and wonm oou in the end. He's ok when the Huns are cantering to the title pressure free as was the case throughout the 1990'S mostly. Also the Huns  have to go to Easter Road and Pittodrie in the run in as well, so all is far from lost ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 17, 2008, 01:21:52 PM
Also the Huns  have to go to Easter Road and Pittodrie in the run in as well, so all is far from lost ;D

6 points for Rangers then?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on April 17, 2008, 02:28:55 PM
Jaysus lads, it was a chance, I was screaming at him to take a shot when it opened up for him. Barry Robson had a couple of them in the second half too I felt that he should have gambled on. Speaking of which I couldn't believe that he was hauled ashore, one of our best players on the night. We had Hartley, Caldwell and Mick marking one man, yet WGS decided to take off our attacking midfielder who was well up for it. WGS got out of jail on the night, too slow to make changes, Samaras should have been on earlier for either Hartley or Caldwell. Would love to know what sparked off de mini riot at the end, would have to echo the fact that there was no problem in the previous 4 games at taking defeat. If there is suspensions it'll work in the Celts favour, get Bobo back in the center, no nonsense defending, clean sheets and leave de attacking to the fullbacks up. The wheels could come off the Rankers wagon yet...

One question, why is our dead ball expert not our penalty taker???

maybe as he was on a yellow and GS decided that his abrasive game could allow the ref to 'even things up' by sending him off
so on that front I thought it was ok to take him off, but he was having a stormer all the same. Back to his Dundee utd form.
Hartley was good too.
Celtic did run out of ideas , but the prob was the slow build up from the back. Samaras should have been on earlier. I'd have went with back three - and taken wilson off again.

Jaysus if he was to take anyone off on a yellow it should have been JVOH, looked like he was lose his rag all night and if ur gonna earn a yellow at least make it count, not trip someone who is going nowhere fast... I actually thought Wilson was offering us more than Naylor, he sped by McGeady countless times and showed what we're missing at left back. Granted his delivery was brutal but at least he was trying.

One question, why is our dead ball expert not our penalty taker???

because he is just like beckham - brilliant at free kicks but sh*t at penalties.

I think he's got a bit more composure than Beckham and even at free kicks looks to place the ball rather than blast and swerve it. Agree totally that Robson should be taking all the corners, great delivery and the moment in the box for corners last night was top class.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on April 17, 2008, 02:33:16 PM
I think he's got a bit more composure than Beckham and even at free kicks looks to place the ball rather than blast and swerve it.

Oh FFS, dont tell me you are serious?
He scores a decent goal & you are having a w4nkfest over him
An average player in Scotland, a below average player anywhere else
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ThatManJimmyMagee on April 17, 2008, 02:40:35 PM
I think he's got a bit more composure than Beckham and even at free kicks looks to place the ball rather than blast and swerve it.

Oh FFS, dont tell me you are serious?
He scores a decent goal & you are having a w4nkfest over him
An average player in Scotland, a below average player anywhere else

agreed, he's unbelievably weak which is just the way asian players are built. too easy ran off the ball and will never cut it at the top level. Beckham was no 'great' but he was a hell of a better player than Nakamura.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 17, 2008, 02:49:05 PM
Oh FFS, dont tell me you are serious?
He scores a decent goal & you are having a w4nkfest over him
An average player in Scotland, a below average player anywhere else
When a full back :) who scores a goal every 3 seasons and it happens to be a screamer, you can safely say it was a one off.
When a very skilled player, a renowned dead ball expert, a scorer of some fantastic goals for his club and country, scores a sublime goal it is generally acknowledged as befitting his class. 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on April 17, 2008, 02:52:30 PM
Main st, croi was comparing him to Beckham  :D
Now, while Beckham isnt the best in the world Naka wouldnt even lace his boots
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ThatManJimmyMagee on April 17, 2008, 02:53:15 PM
are you telling Nakamura is better than Beckham was? is that what yer sayin here?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on April 17, 2008, 03:01:20 PM
Lads when ur finished throwing ur hissy fits go back and check who introduced Beckham into the thread and what the context was...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 17, 2008, 03:02:46 PM
I think he's got a bit more composure than Beckham and even at free kicks looks to place the ball rather than blast and swerve it.

Oh FFS, dont tell me you are serious?
He scores a decent goal & you are having a w4nkfest over him
An average player in Scotland, a below average player anywhere else

How can he be average in Scotland? He was player of the year last year which tends to suggest he is one of the best players in Scotland.

He may be average elsewhere but certainly not in Scotland. Personally I think it's to his credit that he's done so well in Scotland where the football is so fast and physical when he would probably be more suited to a slower more technical league.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on April 17, 2008, 03:05:48 PM
Lads when ur finished throwing ur hissy fits go back and check who introduced Beckham into the thread and what the context was...

Regardless of who brought Beckham up croi, you said he has more composure than Beckham :D
And are you saying his free kicks are better than Beckham?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ThatManJimmyMagee on April 17, 2008, 03:08:39 PM
I think he's got a bit more composure than Beckham and even at free kicks looks to place the ball rather than blast and swerve it.

Oh FFS, dont tell me you are serious?
He scores a decent goal & you are having a w4nkfest over him
An average player in Scotland, a below average player anywhere else

How can he be average in Scotland? He was player of the year last year which tends to suggest he is one of the best players in Scotland.

He may be average elsewhere but certainly not in Scotland. Personally I think it's to his credit that he's done so well in Scotland where the football is so fast and physical when he would probably be more suited to a slower more technical league.

holy fcuk  :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on April 17, 2008, 03:11:48 PM
How can he be average in Scotland? He was player of the year last year

Dont talk about player of the year in Scotland FFS
Maloney won it one year & I think even that athlete of the game John Hartson won it as well (maybe he was joint winner? )
I may have been ott when I said he was average in Scotland, but he is certainly below average in any other decent league
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on April 17, 2008, 03:12:32 PM
I think he's got a bit more composure than Beckham and even at free kicks looks to place the ball rather than blast and swerve it.

Oh FFS, dont tell me you are serious?
He scores a decent goal & you are having a w4nkfest over him
An average player in Scotland, a below average player anywhere else

How can he be average in Scotland? He was player of the year last year which tends to suggest he is one of the best players in Scotland.

He may be average elsewhere but certainly not in Scotland. Personally I think it's to his credit that he's done so well in Scotland where the football is so fast and physical when he would probably be more suited to a slower more technical league.

holy fcuk  :D

I would hardly take the views seriously of someone who on another thread is having digs at Hillsborough memorial services.

Reptile behaviour.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on April 17, 2008, 03:16:27 PM
Lads when ur finished throwing ur hissy fits go back and check who introduced Beckham into the thread and what the context was...

Regardless of who brought Beckham up croi, you said he has more composure than Beckham :D
And are you saying his free kicks are better than Beckham?

I was referring to penalties, which is the context that Beckam was brought into the debate at... In true Non GAA Discussion style this is where I would try to get the dig in and say "Try to keep up" but I couldn't be bothered  8)

Free kicks? Beckham has more pace and power on his whereas Naka tries to get them up and down accurately. Who's better? I don't know, check the stats...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ThatManJimmyMagee on April 17, 2008, 03:17:05 PM
Scottish football is so fast  :D

that has to be one of the dumbest statements ever!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on April 17, 2008, 03:42:39 PM
Lads when ur finished throwing ur hissy fits go back and check who introduced Beckham into the thread and what the context was...

Regardless of who brought Beckham up croi, you said he has more composure than Beckham :D
And are you saying his free kicks are better than Beckham?

I was referring to penalties

How many penalties has Naka hit for Celtic or his country that shows his composure?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 17, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Main st, croi was comparing him to Beckham  :D
Now, while Beckham isnt the best in the world Naka wouldnt even lace his boots
I understood Croi to be favourably comparing some aspects.
It's pretty obvious that Naka has not demonstrated such consistency nor has he played for a top team at the top level like Man U or Madrid.
Naka doesn't bomb down the wing and hit an inch perfect cross like Beckham did.
He is another type of player and lightweight.
But imo Nakas range of sublime passing ability compares well and Nakas free kicks are as good as you get.





 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 17, 2008, 04:11:26 PM
Main st, croi was comparing him to Beckham  :D
Now, while Beckham isnt the best in the world Naka wouldnt even lace his boots
I understood Croi to be favourably comparing some aspects.
It's pretty obvious that Naka has not demonstrated such consistency nor has he played for a top team at the top level like Man U or Madrid.
Naka doesn't bomb down the wing and hit an inch perfect cross like Beckham did.
He is another type of player and lightweight.
But imo Nakas range of sublime passing ability compares well and Nakas free kicks are as good as you get.

as for the bits in bold....I'd say - neither did beckham (play well that is for the first one) he was a stationary crosser of the ball who took good corners (unlike Nakamura) and scored spectacular free kicks - like nakamura. Was a bit more robust and a better defender, but after a few seasons of promise then flitting with good play, fergie got fed up with the enigma who just wasnt delivering and got rid. Nakamura wouldnt have made it onto the man u team though to be fair.


just a few comments on other snippets mentioned in above posts...

Scottish football is quite fast (apart from when rangers are playing)

John Hartson was obv not an athlete but a proven goal scoring machine (in international, spl and eng prem)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on April 17, 2008, 04:28:52 PM
Lads when ur finished throwing ur hissy fits go back and check who introduced Beckham into the thread and what the context was...

Regardless of who brought Beckham up croi, you said he has more composure than Beckham :D
And are you saying his free kicks are better than Beckham?

I was referring to penalties

How many penalties has Naka hit for Celtic or his country that shows his composure?

Quick search returned these

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=LwtDW3D9Vp4 (http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=LwtDW3D9Vp4)

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=qVs0GzUOnS4 (http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=qVs0GzUOnS4)

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Ox8h4hxFA (http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Ox8h4hxFA) 2 mins 30 in
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on April 17, 2008, 04:31:43 PM
Wonder was his holiness responsible for this banner    :P

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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 17, 2008, 05:28:10 PM
Anyone any stats on how many goals Celtic have scored from say the 88 min til the end of the game, in the last 5 years?

It's unbelieveable, I used to think salford were bad.

Is it down to a 'we're never beaten attitude' or the quality and fitness of the opposition? Combination of both I would say
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: his holiness nb on April 17, 2008, 07:07:02 PM
Wonder was his holiness responsible for this banner    :P

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 :D

Inoccent, was in the opposite corner from the Rangers fans!

Not bad for the first time at a celtic game eh!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on April 17, 2008, 07:21:10 PM
The other 3 arrows have fallen off that flag ;D ;)

Anyway Ive actually been impressed by Davis at Rangers and he has shown in Europe he is a good player. He was though cr*p last night, might as well have not been playing.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 17, 2008, 07:23:31 PM
Tell us more holiness about the trip to Paradise, safer than hill 16?

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on April 18, 2008, 01:45:09 AM
ha, i was sitting directly below that banner, right below the arrow actually!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: his holiness nb on April 18, 2008, 01:31:42 PM
Tell us more holiness about the trip to Paradise, safer than hill 16?



I've never felt unsafe on the hill, and certainly didnt in Parkhead as it was mostly Celtic fans and we were in the opposite corner of the ground to the Rangers fans. Up a bit from where that picture was taken.

Good craic, Glasgows an awful kip though.
People go on about the atmosphere there and I have to hand it to them, it was something else.

Was getting bored near the end before the winner though. gimme parnell park anytime!  ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 19, 2008, 08:01:18 PM
Another 3 points, top of the league for the first time this year. The league is still up for deciding - I'm the eternal optimist, but if we win all our remaining games, the forces of darkness can only lose it!


Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on April 20, 2008, 02:07:30 AM
Robson impressive again by all accounts, Bobo played well too apparently.  There's just too few games less unfortunately, we can only hope rangers uefa run derails them completely domestically but I can't see it.  What about the Strachan for Benfica rumour?  :o
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on April 20, 2008, 10:56:58 AM
could be convenient if strachan was to leave for benfica - keep the people calling for his head happy, while giving the board no excuse to sack him. by all accounts yesterday was terrible game but 3 points is all that matters at this time of the year. is anybody headin up to the OF next sunday? just got me ticket cant wait!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: full back on April 20, 2008, 10:14:42 PM
Mc Geady got Player Of The Year & Young Player Of The Year tonight
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on April 20, 2008, 11:40:42 PM
Thought he was perhaps a shade lucky to win both awards. He was excellent for a lot of the season but until last week's Old Firm game his form had tailed off and he was again lacking consistency. Perhaps helped by the fact the votes were made a wee while ago. In fairness of the other contenders McDonald had also lost form, Robson hadnt played enough since joining Celtic to win POTY so that just left Cueller and McGeady to chose from.

Good 3 points for Celtic yesterday. Aberdeen can rightfully be agrieved for having a perfectly good equaliser wrongly chalked off at the death, I wonder if those people on this thread who have claimed Scottish officials are opposed to Celtic will mention this incident ;D.

Rangers were very very fortunate to squeeze past St.Johnstone on penalties today and a great shame for Scottish football that they did make it through in the end but the win came at a cost with more injuries and their squad is down to the bare bones today. With Fiorentina now ahead of them they should be toiling even more come the next OF game. If Celtic win that then follow it with 3 points at Motherwell then they are 8 points clear with Rangers having 4 games in hand - a major test for a team who look a bit like theyre already running on empty.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 21, 2008, 10:50:02 AM
cuellar - LDA, you are having a laugh - he is only made look a half decent defender as Celtics are rubbish.

McGeady is being double and triple teamed and is still doing ok in spite of this. I was v critical of the lad up until this season ,but he is getting nearer to being a fantastic player, still a wee bit to go yet.
When mcGeady is marked, Celtic dont have the nous to move the ball quickly to the other wing..dopes.

Dont think fatigue is a problem for rangers. Thats a load of horsesh*t. If they pick up inj - then they will have problems.

A lot of other players prob deserved to be in the frame for player of the season ahead of cueller, severin, that goalscorer from hibs and a couple of the motherwell lads (esp after the Phil O'Donnell thing)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on April 21, 2008, 02:10:13 PM
Id agree with you about Fletcher at Hibs but Severin - he wouldnt even be near Aberdeen's player of the year award! McCormack at Motherwell was great until January etc but has tailed off somewhat. As for Cuellar he has been superb in Europe as well as the SPL. He will be away to the Premiership soon enough.

Hope you noticed that Scotland's premier hoops are just one game away from clinching a play-off place. Would be just like us to f*ck it up yet though.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 21, 2008, 02:28:12 PM
Hope you noticed that Scotland's premier hoops are just one game away from clinching a play-off place. Would be just like us to f*ck it up yet though.
did notice, said nothing in case of jinxing them. looking good for playoff place, then who knows what can happen

severin always plays well for the dons when I see them on TV
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 27, 2008, 12:08:31 PM
Only 20 mins to go, nevres are shattered, straight out the door now to the pub!
We can beat these buns.


HAIL HAIL
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on April 27, 2008, 02:39:46 PM
celts didnt play as well today as the last night but the only thing that matters is the result. hopefully the huns are now starting to feel the pinch!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 27, 2008, 05:27:54 PM
good point made by setanta.celts play motherwell sat if they lord 3 points put them 8clear,could be psychological boost with gers tough game at easter road!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on April 27, 2008, 08:24:04 PM
just back from the game, great result! thought caldwell was very good in the second half against cousin, and i dont say that often! also, hartley and robson in centre midfield are playin great stuff. they are startin to worry! plus maybe another injury and suspension could start gettin crucial! HAIL HAIL!!

p.s. whoever came up with the "your just a fat eddie murphy" chant for darcheville, well done!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on April 27, 2008, 10:14:56 PM
just back from the game, great result! thought caldwell was very good in the second half against cousin, and i dont say that often! also, hartley and robson in centre midfield are playin great stuff. they are startin to worry! plus maybe another injury and suspension could start gettin crucial! HAIL HAIL!!

p.s. whoever came up with the "your just a fat eddie murphy" chant for darcheville, well done!!

Skippy's form has dipped in the past couple of months but thought he was excellent today, terrific work-rate and two great finsihes (Torres eat your heart out for the second goal).  Caldwell was very impressive too and Naka did rightly, especially when closing the game out in the last 10 minutes.  I think Rankers will drop some points as they are bound to get fatigued, but they'll need to fail to win in 2 games and we'll have to take maximum points from the remaining fixtures to turn it round.  Would be such a sweet title if it happens.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 28, 2008, 10:23:41 AM
2003 in reverse ;D

What about Boruc's God Bless the Pope T Shirt? He seems to have annoyed Gregory Campbell according to to-day's Irish News. The same cnut was quiet when Goram wore the black armband as a "tribute" to Billy Wright. >:(

Had to laugh at Strachan's response which was "To be fair he's not a bad lad (The Pope), Now if the T SHirt had said God Bless Myra Hindley, I would have had a problem with that" :D

Lets hope Adrian Mutu, Vieiri etc do the business on Thursday night, as well ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on April 28, 2008, 10:47:32 AM
surely if kaka can wear this t-shirt then theres no problem with boruc!
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on April 28, 2008, 05:33:25 PM
Of course in typical football rivalry it will be laughed off by one side and taken to heart by the other side - gazzas flute playing for example.

Provocative - yes. Taken over the top by fans - of course
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: his holiness nb on April 28, 2008, 05:40:51 PM
Of course in typical football rivalry it will be laughed off by one side and taken to heart by the other side - gazzas flute playing for example.

Provocative - yes. Taken over the top by fans - of course

Ah but you cant be comparing the orange order to the pope Nifan.

In all fairness.

Anyone complaining about the t-shirt is guilty of religious intolerance IMO.

FFS they do call him the holy goalie after all!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 28, 2008, 05:57:31 PM
Where was that photo taken? If it was taken after the game against Rangers, then yes, I feel it was definitely designed to enrage the Rangers support. Why else would someone wear a t-shirt like that?

The Queen is head of the Church of England (I think). If Barry Ferguson wore a T-Shirt that said 'God Bless the Queen' and paraded it in front of Celtic fans, there'd be war as well.

If it was somewhere else, or not at the Rangers game, I would still wonder why he wore it, but would be a little more tolerant.

Similarly, if Kaka wore his shirt against Fenerbache or Galatasary or any other club with Islamic ties (I'm not sure if those two even have), it would be a silly thing to do as well.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Chrisowc on April 28, 2008, 06:41:13 PM
I think that's fair enough AZ.

Wasn't Gazza set up by McCoist or someone when he first arrived at Rangers?

Don't think Gazza did his flute thing during an Old Firm game either.  Though I could be wrong
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: nifan on April 28, 2008, 06:57:52 PM

Ah but you cant be comparing the orange order to the pope Nifan.

In all fairness.

Anyone complaining about the t-shirt is guilty of religious intolerance IMO.

FFS they do call him the holy goalie after all!

I didnt compare the pope and the OO, i compared the use of them to wind up others. And i said that people shouldnt make too much of these things, but invariably do.

I would class the goram black armband as something entirely different for example.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on April 28, 2008, 07:01:44 PM
Don't think Gazza did his flute thing during an Old Firm game either.  Though I could be wrong

He did.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Chrisowc on April 28, 2008, 07:11:42 PM
Fair enough
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: passedit on April 28, 2008, 07:24:35 PM
In fairness to Gazza, I think most gave him a fools pardon. In mitigation for Boruc it seems the t shirt was thrown to him from the crowd and was as much in praise of him as JP2, what with all the holy goalie nonsense. He doesn't seem to be the brightest bulb in the box either.

Was listening to the game on the way to a game of proper ball and from what I could pick up Rangers were targetting Hinkel. I presume milk still turns quicker?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: saffron sam2 on April 28, 2008, 08:00:30 PM
I think that's fair enough AZ.

Wasn't Gazza set up by McCoist or someone when he first arrived at Rangers?

Don't think Gazza did his flute thing during an Old Firm game either.  Though I could be wrong


1. Gazza blames Ian Ferguson rather than McCoist. Apparently this wind-up was during a pre-season tour though.

2. As hardstation says, it was also done in the course of an Old Firm game. Gazza was warming up before being introduced as a sub, when he was being serenaded with a chorus of "He beats the wife, he beats the wife, Gazza beats the wife". In retaliation, he responded with his flautist's impression.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on April 28, 2008, 11:18:38 PM
Where was that photo taken? If it was taken after the game against Rangers, then yes, I feel it was definitely designed to enrage the Rangers support. Why else would someone wear a t-shirt like that?

The Queen is head of the Church of England (I think). If Barry Ferguson wore a T-Shirt that said 'God Bless the Queen' and paraded it in front of Celtic fans, there'd be war as well.

If it was somewhere else, or not at the Rangers game, I would still wonder why he wore it, but would be a little more tolerant.

Similarly, if Kaka wore his shirt against Fenerbache or Galatasary or any other club with Islamic ties (I'm not sure if those two even have), it would be a silly thing to do as well.
I think you think too much.
Don't you remember when Boruc was cautioned by the police for openly blessing himself at a Rangers Celtic game. Only for the police to do 5 sommersaults with their reasons afterwards..



Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: stew on April 29, 2008, 03:47:45 AM
Where was that photo taken? If it was taken after the game against Rangers, then yes, I feel it was definitely designed to enrage the Rangers support. Why else would someone wear a t-shirt like that?

The Queen is head of the Church of England (I think). If Barry Ferguson wore a T-Shirt that said 'God Bless the Queen' and paraded it in front of Celtic fans, there'd be war as well.

If it was somewhere else, or not at the Rangers game, I would still wonder why he wore it, but would be a little more tolerant.

Similarly, if Kaka wore his shirt against Fenerbache or Galatasary or any other club with Islamic ties (I'm not sure if those two even have), it would be a silly thing to do as well.
I think you think too much.
Don't you remember when Boruc was cautioned by the police for openly blessing himself at a Rangers Celtic game. Only for the police to do 5 sommersaults with their reasons afterwards..






Just as well Artur isnt a muslim, during the game he would have to whip the aul prayer mat out and praise allah! celtic would be losing 5-0 nearly every week. ;)

of course of he was muslim the huns wouldnt give two shites, but since he is a fenian..................................different story. :o
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 29, 2008, 10:49:40 AM
Boruc's antics pale in comparison with huns fans singing Derrys walls, being up to their neck in fenian blood etc, repeatedly during last week's game with Fiorentina. Doesn't UEFA have some ruling which forbids sectarian chanting?

You do get great humour after a Celtic Huns match particularly if Celtic are the victors. Remember back in 1998 when the stopped the Huns ten in a row and the Celtic players all revaeled t shirts with ten in a row, only the 0 was stroked out and they read 1 in a row :D :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on April 29, 2008, 02:10:11 PM
there is a lot of sectarian chanting tony but to be honest it comes from both sides. my seats for the last 2 old firms have been 5 away from them, and they had a song bout hanging neil lennon, nazi salutes, the billy boys etc. but then u have some at celtic who still sing roll of honour, i hope you die in your sleep nacho novo, etc. it works both ways.

still, was a great win and i think the league is still possible.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on April 29, 2008, 02:46:58 PM
mhacadoir, I agree but read Tommy Gemmell's book. Tommy explains in his book how he was coming out of an old firm game at Parkhead not so long ago,to be collected by his wife, and took dogs abuse from Huns fans who he met on the way out.

He described the huns bigotry as ten times worse than Celtic's element, and he himself is not a catholic.

Still it will be a great week if Fiorentina do the business on Thursday night ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on April 29, 2008, 02:54:20 PM
oh i agree tony, must read his book.

yeh im all for the fiorentina thursday night, their luck has to run out at some stage. surely anti-football cannot get them to a uefa cup final.

forza la viola!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Donagh on April 30, 2008, 10:17:55 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=onGa9BuNkwo
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Muzz on April 30, 2008, 10:31:46 PM
Did anyone listen to Gregory on the Stephen Nolan show today about Arthur?

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on May 01, 2008, 12:13:44 AM
Did anyone listen to Gregory on the Stephen Nolan show today about Arthur?



Obviously it was about the t-shirt but what all was he saying?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 01, 2008, 10:19:56 AM
Does anyone listen to Gregory, ever?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 01, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
Didn't hear Gregory, but he's a bigoted idiot, didn't hear him complaining when Gazza played the flute or Goram wore the black armband after Billy Wright died. Campbell is a throw back to the past and will be/is getting squeezed out of the DUP.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on May 01, 2008, 02:28:07 PM
Gregorys points were as follows:

-Boruc has publically claimed that he despises Rangers and won't shake hands with them after a game
-Boruc has been questioned by police for 'doing similar things' against Rangers
-If Ferguson wore a 'God Bless John Knox' how would Celtic fans react.

To top it all off, Campbell claimed that Boruc was a bigot for wearing the T shirt. Nolan pulled him on it and said is wasn't bigoted at all, more provocative.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 01, 2008, 04:01:29 PM
Oh aye, I forgot -


FORZA LA VIOLA
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: lynchbhoy on May 01, 2008, 04:23:11 PM
gregory cambell calling someone a bigot...classic !  :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 03, 2008, 01:25:47 AM
just seen this on youtube, ah the memories.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=791-3g_n_jY&feature=related
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 03, 2008, 01:38:42 AM
So good, that it would be considered rude to mention the blatant dive by Jarosik ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 03, 2008, 03:24:14 AM
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7XTBG7XFmQ (http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7XTBG7XFmQ)

This one is pretty entertaining. Title or not. ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on May 03, 2008, 03:39:14 AM
Some well known players at CP for the last derby.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=6p6qCoFbShA&feature=related (http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=6p6qCoFbShA&feature=related)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 03, 2008, 02:04:23 PM
Making hard work of it again!  1-1 with 15mins to go. :-[
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Doogie Browser on May 03, 2008, 02:05:00 PM
2-1!! Pete Sampras's cousin! :) :)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 03, 2008, 06:50:19 PM
Another hard ground out result!
Swear I reckon I've lost 12 years of my life this season watching the Hoops!  :o
Thought Wee Aidan played another cracker, ran hard and fought for everything, only negative would be that he over complicates some of his moves!
Artur - solid
Caldwell - remarkably good showing (seems to play well when Mick McManus isn't there)
Naylor - could pass a sh*te
Hartley - very quiet
Naka - not at the match, bullied off the ball every time he got it, was relieved that for once WGS had the balls to take him off.
Brown - not on long, but will have to improve greatly next season to warrent his price.
Robson - okish, did waste a good few balls.
Hinkel - starting to worry about him?!
Bobo - was at fault for the goal, not used too being in the big team (I hope)
Skippy (McDonald) - tried his heart off all day, bless his wee cotton socks, took his goal well.
Samaras - gave us movement, but not the finished article by a long shot, glad to see the ball in the back of the net though!
JVOH - was he playing today?


Still 3 very important points in the bag, come the Hibees tomorrow.

Hail hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on May 03, 2008, 07:45:19 PM
the main thing today was getting the 3 points and the celts got them. hopefully motherwell will put the same effort in against the huns. would settle for a draw in the hibs huns match tomorrow - wonder how the huns will approach this game with the pressure now on and having played extra time the other night.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on May 04, 2008, 04:34:27 PM
Good result for Celtic today with Hibs and Rangers finishing 0-0. Leaves the top of the SPL pretty tight and the title race is definately back on. Celtic will just have to win their last 2 games (and try and win them well) and leave Rangers no margin for error. I see Celtic got yet another break from the officials yesterday, where are the posters who said a few weeks ago Celtic will never get a fair deal from Scottish refs? ;D

Heartbreaking for the other hoops yesterday lynchbhoy...3-1 up on the day after an hour and 5-2 on aggregate but we conceded 2 quick ones and the lack of experience and tired legs from a part-time side against full-time told in the end. Beaten 5-3 after extra time on the day and 6-5 on aggregate :'( Epic game of football.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 06, 2008, 09:06:07 AM
I have decided the Bhoys need my presence...so I'm heading over on Sunday to lend my support ;D

Was on a flying visit to Glasgow last Saturday, no time to go to Motherwell unfortunately, but did get to see the brick with my name on it, at the wall at the bottom of the Lisbon Lions Stand. Took me 15 minutes to locate said brick, but mighty impressive all the same ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 06, 2008, 11:46:20 AM
The jinx is on now.
Celtic's chances of the title are beyond redemption now.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 06, 2008, 11:51:10 AM
Well my presence at the following big games didn't have an adverse effect >:(

1989 Scottish Cup Final

2001 Champions League tie at home to Juventus

2006 Champions League tie at home to Man Ure

In fact I have not witnessed a Celtic defeat at Parkhead since a 2-1 league reverse at home to the Huns in 1989 >:(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 06, 2008, 12:26:23 PM
Tone, just please don't give us a score/result prediction - they are your true scuds!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 06, 2008, 12:39:48 PM
I wont tempt fate, but it should be a brilliant occasion, especially if the huns drop points to either Motherwell and/or Dundee Utd.If the Huns were to lose both these games then the Bhoys can clinch the title on Sunday...dream scenario I know. ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 06, 2008, 01:28:28 PM
I wont tempt fate, but it should be a brilliant occasion, especially if the huns drop points to either Motherwell and/or Dundee Utd.If the Huns were to lose both these games then the Bhoys can clinch the title on Sunday...dream scenario I know. ;D



Thats right, Christ 6 weeks ago people were writing the Hoops off, and with a game still to play, they could be presented with the flag at Paradise!  ;D

Although realistically I think it will go to the last game of the season, all I want the Celts to do is to beat Hibs on Sunday! Hopefully the forces of darkness will drop at least two points over their next two matches, get humped by Zenit lose the league and then go out of the Scottish cup final on Penalities to QoS!!  ;D ;) ;D


Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 06, 2008, 01:53:43 PM
So did you promise to God that you would be a good boy from now on if he kept his side of the pact.?

I see Rangers had a plea for mercy on their fixture pile up rejected by the SPL. Tough isn't it

It should be remembered that Celtic returned from the UEFA cup away leg semi final 2003 and played Rangers off the park. A couple of days after losing the UEFA final they got involved in a turkey shoot for the title against a team who were intent on wasting time to preserve a four goal deficit.

Turkeys or chickens coming home to roost for Rangers?

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 06, 2008, 02:13:48 PM
So did you promise to God that you would be a good boy from now on if he kept his side of the pact.?I see Rangers had a plea for mercy on their fixture pile up rejected by the SPL. Tough isn't it

It should be remembered that Celtic returned from the UEFA cup away leg semi final 2003 and played Rangers off the park. A couple of days after losing the UEFA final they got involved in a turkey shoot for the title against a team who were intent on wasting time to preserve a four goal deficit.

Turkeys or chickens coming home to roost for Rangers?





I reckon I've aged about twelve years this season watching the hoops, still got the Championship to come!

But aye Main Street, I've been saying my prayers regularly!!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: magickingdom on May 06, 2008, 07:41:14 PM
thought rangers were playing tonight but cant see a listing anywhere? anyone know if their playing?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 06, 2008, 08:13:50 PM
Wednesday 7 May - Rangers v Motherwell.
Saturday 10 May - Rangers v Dundee United, Falkirk v Inveress, Hearts v Kilmarnock, Motherwell v Aberdeen, St Mirren v Gretna
Sunday 11 May - Celtic v Hibernian
Wed  14th may UEFA FINAL
Saturday 17 May - Motherwell v Rangers (rearranged game, postponed earlier in the season), Inverness v St Mirren, Kilmarnock v Falkirk
Monday 19 May - St Mirren v Rangers (rearranged game, postponed earlier in the season).
Thursday 22 May - Aberdeen v Rangers, Dundee United v Celtic, Hibernian v Motherwell (all fixtures moved from May 18)
sat 24th  SFA cup final

Before next season the SPL should sit down and come with some plan that they can activate should teams get stretched playing in some competition representing the SPL.  But no way should they should give 5 minutes more to Rangers than what Celtic got just a few years ago.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: magickingdom on May 06, 2008, 08:20:12 PM
thanks ms....
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on May 06, 2008, 09:02:48 PM
Before next season the SPL should sit down and come with some plan that they can activate should teams get stretched playing in some competition representing the SPL.  But no way should they should give 5 minutes more to Rangers than what Celtic got just a few years ago.

In fairness they couldnt legislate for what happened to poor Phil O'Donnell and that knocked out a few games. Motherwell's pitch problems have also been exceptional this season. Rangers themselves have a cheek complaining anyway IMO. They were the ones who lost a game by requesting a week off before their final CL game and they also had a home game postponed due to a water logged pitch (surely a club of that size should have adequate pitch protection) and were taken to a replay in the cup by Partick. They should stop whinging and get on with it.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on May 06, 2008, 11:38:23 PM
I wont tempt fate, but it should be a brilliant occasion, especially if the huns drop points to either Motherwell and/or Dundee Utd.If the Huns were to lose both these games then the Bhoys can clinch the title on Sunday...dream scenario I know. ;D

Heading to the game as well Tony, here's hoping!  I think they might draw one of these two games, I'd be delighted with that.  As long as we go full pelt from the off on Sunday and try and score first half I think we should beat Hibs, they didn't impress me that much against Rangers on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 07, 2008, 09:06:35 AM
No doubt an early (Celtic) goal will settle both the team and the fans, and might just blow the Hibees out of the  water, allowing us to add to our goal difference.

By the way I'm flying over on Sunday and sailing home after the game, due to cost factors. Hows that for devotion to the cause. ;D

PS Look out for my brick on the lisbon Lions Stand wal, about half way down ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Dannymcfella on May 07, 2008, 03:32:24 PM
No doubt rearangers will suggests to the SPL and the entire free world that we transfer from a 7 day week to a 9 day week so they can get an extra few days rest between games!! ::)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 07, 2008, 04:08:41 PM
Its getting ridiculous now, Scot manager Burley comes out in support of Rankers getting an extension!

Lifted the following from another forum:


Scotland manager George Burley has criticised the Scottish Premier League fixture list for failing to help Rangers ahead of the Uefa Cup final.

"I think it's ridiculous that I'm naming the squad and Rangers still have seven games to play," he said ahead of Scotland's game with Czech Republic.

-------

Eh, if they postponed one or two more, then they'd STILL have 7 to play, George ... or am I missing something? Does he want the SPL to just award the 3 pts to Rangers for a few of the games, so they maybe only have 4 left to play? No idea what point he's making TBH.




The bit in bold is priceless!  ::)

Mon the Hoops

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on May 07, 2008, 04:28:59 PM
the huns are sh*tting it big time but its all their own doing. one of the games they had postponed to help them in the champions league was against gretna ffs. even if they were to win both tonight and sat (which they wont) aberdeen will do them over in the last game anyway. there is no way that they will win 5 league games in a row with a uefa final to worry about as well. they're not man utd or chelsea!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 07, 2008, 05:04:29 PM
The Bhoys are on offer to-day at 5/4 against winning the title. Sounds like a decent bet to me ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 07, 2008, 06:11:32 PM
It might sink to 1/6 later on tonight ;D
If you believe then take it now.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 08, 2008, 10:22:13 AM
Bad result last night, and it looked so promising for 70 minutes or so. Nevertheless the Huns had another energy sapping, nerve wracking 90 minutes ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 08, 2008, 10:29:03 AM
Was astonished to read in Tony Hamilton's column in this week's View, of the Motherwell Club DJ playing "Gypsies Tramps and Thieves" to wind up Celtic's support last week. As he pointed out there is a difference between having a laugh and being downright offensive. What would the late Phil O'Donnell make of this? Also I wasn't aware that there was tension between Motherwell and Celtic given the past history of transfers between the Clubs and Mark Mc Ghee is their current manager ???
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on May 08, 2008, 11:31:21 AM
Bad result last night, and it looked so promising for 70 minutes or so. Nevertheless the Huns had another energy sapping, nerve wracking 90 minutes ;D

i think they'll drop points on saturday. dundee utd are a decent side and the huns will surely be watching themselves with the uefa cup on wednesday. the only good thing about last night was that they didnt reduce the goal difference by much.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on May 08, 2008, 05:11:05 PM
Tell all the Huns you know that Manchester's not far to go!
They'll be shagging Gail Platt in Roy Croppers flat,
While we're winning 3 in a row ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on May 08, 2008, 08:31:10 PM
Was astonished to read in Tony Hamilton's column in this week's View, of the Motherwell Club DJ playing "Gypsies Tramps and Thieves" to wind up Celtic's support last week. As he pointed out there is a difference between having a laugh and being downright offensive. What would the late Phil O'Donnell make of this? Also I wasn't aware that there was tension between Motherwell and Celtic given the past history of transfers between the Clubs and Mark Mc Ghee is their current manager ???

No need to be astonished, the fact is the fans of pretty much every other club hate both sides of the Old Firm. You might think Motherwell fans like Celtic due to "the past history of transfers" between the clubs but in reality Im sure Motherwell fans are sick of losing their best players to the usual suspects who then complain about the lack of a challenge from the clubs theyve just raided ???.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on May 10, 2008, 08:05:43 PM
didnt see the rangers match today but heard that dundee utd had a perfectly good goal ruled offside and a stonewall penalty not given. i really thought that the huns would have dropped points today. hopefully the celts win tomorrow and by a few goals as well.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on May 10, 2008, 08:54:58 PM
today was more than a disgrace, it was complete bias. perfectly good goal ruled offside, noel hunt blatantly being fouled inside the box, cousin headbutting lee wilkie and only getting a yellow, it was crazy! craig levein went ballistic after the game

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/dundee_utd/7381960.stm

they are also going to make an official complaint

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/dundee_utd/7393800.stm
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: tyssam5 on May 10, 2008, 09:18:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0xHWIw_dPk
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on May 10, 2008, 11:03:39 PM
Not exactly surprising given that Mike McCurry was refereeing.  The man is a blatant cheat with a huge Rangers bias.  These are five separate occasions in the past where he's been involved in controversy officiating Huns games, and that's not including today or the OF game earlier in the season when he booked 9 Celtic players to Rankers 2.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2000/11/15/sfnabe15.xml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/2438919.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/dundee/4088257.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/motherwell/6226555.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/7215941.stm

 :o

And the SPL still let this man referee Rangers games?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on May 11, 2008, 12:40:31 PM
Cel'ic getting the run around early on.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on May 11, 2008, 12:41:21 PM
As I say that, they have just had two great chances.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 11, 2008, 01:03:14 PM
Robson should have finished that :o
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on May 11, 2008, 01:10:57 PM
1-0 Celtic.
McManus
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 11, 2008, 02:03:18 PM
How greedy are Celtic players round the box! They should be out of site!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on May 11, 2008, 02:20:44 PM
2-0
McDonald

Shit game.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on May 11, 2008, 02:24:22 PM
Bout time. Poor stuff alright
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 12, 2008, 09:13:46 AM
Great day at Parkhead yesterday, with the right result in the end. Vendors on stalls outside selling tee shirts depicting the late Pope John Paul II wearing a T shirt which said "God Bless Artur Boruc" :D

Celts cetrainly mad ehard work of things and on more than one occasion we had Boruc to thank. Nevertheless 2-0 would have been acceptable before the game and therefore alls well that ends well. If Mc Geady could deliver a consistent final ball he would be better than Ronaldo while Barry Robson's workrate is remininiscent of his namesake Bryan.

Had the dubious distinction of sharing a plane yesterday morning with ex Huns Mark Hateley and Dave Mc Pherson and a few other lesser knowns who were in Belfast for a testimonal game on Saturday for a Linfield/IFA player. Once again the exemplary behaviour of all Celts on the plane (who were in the vast majority) was commendable. Was just thinking if the situation had been reversed (ie a plane full of Huns with a few well known ex Celtic stars) would the behavious have been as good? I don't think so.

Also on the boat home last night there were youths from some North East of Ireland youth side swanning about in IFA tracksuits and again these were ignored by the huge mass of Celtic supporters. Once again would this have been the case if an FAI team were sharing a boat with Huns? ???
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 12, 2008, 11:53:50 AM
Celtic made hard work of yesterdays win over Hibs, but don't forget that Hibs were playing for the chance of a UEFA spot.
Worst result of the weekend was Motherwell winning, now means that they have the 3rd spot safe, none of the teams have anything left to play for this season (not sure if they get different amounts of money for finishing 4th, 5th and 6th?).
Anyway, Celtic did what was needed and got the result, pressure is back on the Huns, although Motherwell away may prove hard, McGhee would need to keep Bob Malcolm on the bench, St Mirren away shouldn't be a problem for the Orcs, normally Aberdeen away would be a serious banana skin for the forces of darkness, but hey sure Jimmy Calderwood will do his mates in Mordor a favour.  ;)


Come on Zenit St Petersburg, never thought I'd be cheering on Dick Advocaat or Fernando Ricksen, soccer's a funny old game.


Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 12, 2008, 12:06:05 PM
Motherwell is our main hope, so come on Mark Mc Ghee.

There is no love lost between the Huns and Sheepshaggers either but I don't think the Dons have sufficient quality to deny them
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on May 12, 2008, 04:21:32 PM
mad day yesterday. left preston at 7.30, plenty of time to get to glasgow but the radiator packed in, 7 stops up the m6 and got into london road at 1.20 lol!

think we blew hot and cold, played some good stuff, some terrible. barry robson was once again brilliant. him and hatrley have bossed midfield since they started playing together.

by the way, class job from the green brigade for the Gorta mór and brother walfrid banners,top notch.

not for fernando and co to do us a turn!

HAIL HAIL
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 12, 2008, 04:40:18 PM
Just thinking about the devotion of Celtic fans epitomised by yourself journeying all the way from Preston. Heard loads of Irish voices at Parkhead, from North and South. Saw the banners yesterday, impressive alright. Whats the significance of the Anton Rogan White, Clydebank banner?

Also has anyone else saw my brick at the Lisbon Lions wall?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 12, 2008, 04:49:30 PM
 ;D Just heard. Reserves beat Hibs Reserves 4-0 this afternoon to clinch the reserve title ;D Hope its an omen.

By the way it was good to see young Cillian Sheridan (ex Cavan Minor who gave Down plenty of headaches back in 2005) get on for the last few minutes yesterday. He has had a lot of injury problems this season. He came on for the reserves to-day as well. Just looking at the names on the reserve team, it must be one of the strongest in our history since the Quality Street days of the late 60s when our reserve team featured young Dalglish, Mc Grain, Hay, Macari, Wilson, Connolly, Vic Davidson etc
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on May 12, 2008, 04:54:27 PM
Also has anyone else saw my brick at the Lisbon Lions wall?
It appears so......

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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: illdecide on May 12, 2008, 04:57:49 PM
Also has anyone else saw my brick at the Lisbon Lions wall?
It appears so......

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 :D :D :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Evil Genius on May 12, 2008, 05:01:48 PM
;D Just heard. Reserves beat Hibs Reserves 4-0 this afternoon to clinch the reserve title ;D Hope its an omen.

By the way it was good to see young Cillian Sheridan (ex Cavan Minor who gave Down plenty of headaches back in 2005) get on for the last few minutes yesterday. He has had a lot of injury problems this season. He came on for the reserves to-day as well. Just looking at the names on the reserve team, it must be one of the strongest in our history since the Quality Street days of the late 60s when our reserve team featured young Dalglish, Mc Grain, Hay, Macari, Wilson, Connolly, Vic Davidson etc

Curious you forgot to mention Celtic's keeper yesterday, young Fermanaghman Michael McGovern. Don't suppose that has anything to do with the fact that he is also the (popular) Captain of the NI Under-21 team? Comes from a sporting family, too, by all accounts: his sister Aine is a full international at soccer, as well. For NI, that is.

Oh, and on the subs bench yesterday was Derry youngster Daniel Lafferty, who is an NI U-19 international. Mind, he's no relation to Big Kyle afaik!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Evil Genius on May 12, 2008, 05:03:42 PM
Also has anyone else saw my brick at the Lisbon Lions wall?
It appears so......

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Oh, he meant his Brick, did he?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on May 12, 2008, 05:24:56 PM
Was at the match thought it was an exciting game, end-to-end and although Celtic dominated most of the game Hibs had their chances and we needed big Artur to pull us out of one or two holes as usual.  Robson was fantastic as he has been since he got a run, Hartley did a very good job and McDonald worked tirelessly and caused them a lot of problems.  The quality of the delivery from set-plays from both Naka and Robson was amazing in its consistency and won the game in the end.

How shit is Ian Murray, cant believe he was quite highly-rated at a stage, when McGeady switched to the right he never even looked like making a tackle on him, then just game him the most blatant kick when he skinned him for the umpteenth time.  Always good to see an ex-hun getting the line at Celtic Park!

For the NI fans, I though Dixie Shiels was pretty good especially in the first ten minutes before Hartley got a bit tighter to him, does he get much football at Windsor Park?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: mhacadoir on May 12, 2008, 10:24:19 PM
theres three guys who travel regularly from essex to preston, then get up with us to glasgow, now that is devotion! they left at 1.30am to get to glasgow.

liked the look of shiels, caused problems. i like hibs, they play attractive football, while i obviously didnt want them to win, they were good enough entertainment.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: fred the red on May 12, 2008, 10:43:05 PM
Was at the match thought it was an exciting game, end-to-end and although Celtic dominated most of the game Hibs had their chances and we needed big Artur to pull us out of one or two holes as usual.  Robson was fantastic as he has been since he got a run, Hartley did a very good job and McDonald worked tirelessly and caused them a lot of problems.  The quality of the delivery from set-plays from both Naka and Robson was amazing in its consistency and won the game in the end.

How shit is Ian Murray, cant believe he was quite highly-rated at a stage, when McGeady switched to the right he never even looked like making a tackle on him, then just game him the most blatant kick when he skinned him for the umpteenth time.  Always good to see an ex-hun getting the line at Celtic Park!

For the NI fans, I though Dixie Shiels was pretty good especially in the first ten minutes before Hartley got a bit tighter to him, does he get much football at Windsor Park?

4 Caps, according to wikipedia. This comes abit of a shock given some of the donkies who have got games for the north!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 14, 2008, 02:46:18 PM






Udachi St Petersburg
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Dannymcfella on May 14, 2008, 03:51:43 PM
Just thinking about the devotion of Celtic fans epitomised by yourself journeying all the way from Preston. Heard loads of Irish voices at Parkhead, from North and South. Saw the banners yesterday, impressive alright. Whats the significance of the Anton Rogan White, Clydebank banner?

Also has anyone else saw my brick at the Lisbon Lions wall?

Not 100% sure of all the details, but Anton Rogan White was a young Celtic supporter who died mid teens (think the hospital may have been at fault with tests or something) and the local supporters club was named after him. Think thats right
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 14, 2008, 03:56:23 PM
Thanks. From the picture on the banner I thought it was something like that.

Attendance at a Celtic game is truly something more than just watching football, it is almost like a spiritual experience.This may sound nutty, but when I'm in Glasgow, on any occasion, at any time, I always without fail, take a bus out the London Road just to spend some time at the stadium. I seriously find this therapeutic
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 15, 2008, 01:31:49 PM

Jezuz do we really need another mid-fielder?  ::)


Celtic chase Croatia's Vukojevic 
 
Vukojevic played for Croatia against Scotland
Celtic are one of a number of clubs interested in securing the signature of Croatia midfielder Ognjen Vukojevic.

The 24-year-old Dinamo Zagreb player's agent, Danko Dikic, told BBC Sport: "There are some big, big clubs interested in Vukojevic."

Dikic refused to confirm whether Celtic are one of them, despite reports that he has already agreed terms with the Scottish champions.

Dinamo are understood to want around £3.9m for Vukojevic.

Dikic says that he will meet the defensive midfielder next week to begin consideration of his future.

Dinamo play Hajduk Split on Wednesday in the second leg of the Croatia Cup final - Vukojevic's side having won the home leg 3-0.

Vukojevic has won two caps for his country, including one against Scotland.

 
From BBC sport
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 15, 2008, 03:27:01 PM
Wouldnt mind a bit of a clear out and getting a decent striker in.

Anybody know anything about Vukojevic, £3.9 is bit enough money for a defensive midfielder
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Dannymcfella on May 15, 2008, 04:39:44 PM
I thought I was the only 1, everytime I am in Glasgow, if I am not attending a game I do the tour of the stadium.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 17, 2008, 04:01:19 PM
Get in ther. One more big game on Tuesday and then thats the leagues coming back to celtic park.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on May 17, 2008, 04:07:06 PM
great result for celtic today with motherwell drawing 1-1 with rangers. its advantage celic but celtic still have it all to do with a tough trip to tannadice and also hope that rangers somehow dont score a bagful of goals in their last 2 games.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on May 17, 2008, 04:27:25 PM
It's on Thursday Jim, and the gers play Monday night too at St Mirren.  Switched over today when Rangers got their goal, I thought before the game they might find it difficult to score but when the keeper gifted them that one I thought they'd shut it out handy enough.  Dundee Utd will be a tough game but I have a feeling Aberdeen might take something at home to Rangers on the final day anyway.  Never would have thought it would be in Celtic's hands at this stage after the Motherwell defeat at Parkhead.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on May 17, 2008, 04:41:46 PM
as long as st mirren dont lie down and roll over and let in 6 goals like dunfermline did in 2003.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 17, 2008, 04:47:52 PM
It's on Thursday Jim, and the gers play Monday night too at St Mirren.  Switched over today when Rangers got their goal, I thought before the game they might find it difficult to score but when the keeper gifted them that one I thought they'd shut it out handy enough.  Dundee Utd will be a tough game but I have a feeling Aberdeen might take something at home to Rangers on the final day anyway.  Never would have thought it would be in Celtic's hands at this stage after the Motherwell defeat at Parkhead.

So it is i thought the 22nd was a Tuesday.

Cant believe it, i had given up all hope about a month ago.  Its like 2003 in reverse. McDonald to get a hat trick to seal the win would do lovely
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 17, 2008, 05:20:40 PM
as long as st mirren dont lie down and roll over and let in 6 goals like dunfermline did in 2003.

Maybe this time we will see the St Mirren goalie rolling around the floor and wasting time, like the Kilmarnock goalie in 2003, to preserve a 4 goal deficit.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on May 17, 2008, 09:31:23 PM
Still more paranoia on this thread ;D ;D. Dunfermline didnt roll over in 2003, they were just garbage. Anyway its great to see Rangers season threatening to collapse inside a few days. St.Mirren actually have a good record at home (only 1 defeat at home this year I think and that was the game in which Nakamura scored that late free kick when the ref wrongly gave a foul) so hopefully there will be no massacre on Monday night. Celtic will have it difficult enough at Tannadice but Aberdeen would dearly love to hammer the final into Rangers' coffin also so no gaurantee the Huns will win that.

That will only leave the Doonhamers to lift the Cup and the season will have ended perfectly :D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Muzz on May 17, 2008, 09:47:27 PM
Unbelievable to be in this postion.  Sure none of us thought we would have been here.  A month back I had a funny feeling Rangers season would collapse.  Layed them on betfair for the Uefa Cup also have done a treble for Zenit, Celtic and QoS to win.  So its coming along nicely.

Was up at the North West 200 today seen a guy with "Manchester 08" I had to applaud didn't think anyone would have the nerve or stupidity to wear that.  They really are a different breed. 

Fact is if Celtic cannot beat Dundee Utd to win the league then they really dont deserve it.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 17, 2008, 10:15:56 PM
If you need some more comfort, a little chuckle, go have a peep at the SPL outright betting. ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 19, 2008, 07:53:50 AM
Surely now, no matter what happens, WGS's critics should button it. The wee man has well and truly proved himself.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 19, 2008, 10:46:12 AM
The title is not won yet.
Only if it is won, then GS will have earned the right to build up another team for another year.

If Celtic win the title then its part due to a strong finish and Strachan deserves credit for that.
It was his team and his players, like Naka who could pull out something special.
The other part is that Rangers will have handed them the title.

AFAIA winning the SPL means auto entry to the CL group stages next season.
and the co efficient points gained by Rangers toxic football in the UEFA cup should mean the last auto entry spot is secure for a few years.




Title: Re: The Sidam Touch
Post by: passedit on May 19, 2008, 10:54:39 AM
Surely now, no matter what happens, WGS's critics should button it. The wee man has well and truly proved himself.

Tony. Please desist from posting on this thread until friday morning.

YOU SCUD.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 19, 2008, 11:10:38 AM
Whilst I've changed my views on WGS as the season has gone on, nobody seems to have noticed the link between Celtics upturn in form and the arrival of Neil Lennon. The Hoops now have some of the spirit and heart that Rankers have been displaying all season.

As for the league, tonight will tell us alot about where the flag rests for the Summer, but we still have to win on Thursday.

Hail Hail
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 19, 2008, 01:18:44 PM
Lennon has played his part but Strachan must get most of the credit as he steered the ship back on course after being under enormous pressure.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 19, 2008, 01:27:48 PM
The ship had no spirit or heart, Lenny has brought that back.
WGS does deserve credit for just getting on with it when 6 weeks ago he had the wolves at the door baying for his blood.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ExiledGael on May 19, 2008, 07:13:38 PM
Such a fecking goal that second. Gers two nil up after 25 minutes. Could do damage to the goal difference here. Darcheville & Boyd.
Christ Broadfoot even set one up, the othet set up by a St Mirren defender.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on May 19, 2008, 07:16:07 PM
Dig like f**K.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Yes I Would on May 19, 2008, 08:56:55 PM
3-0 Gers. Would have settled for that after first half hour!!


Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on May 19, 2008, 08:59:57 PM
It could have and should have been about 7.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 19, 2008, 09:09:42 PM
Dig like f**K.
Sounds like you are getting emotionally involved there.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: hardstation on May 19, 2008, 09:12:16 PM
Aye, there was a wee row. I'm a hoor for it. I kicked the cat.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ziggysego on May 19, 2008, 09:16:52 PM
f**king hate cats. Good on you hardstation!  >:(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Orior on May 19, 2008, 09:20:54 PM
f**king hate cats. Good on you hardstation!  >:(


So, will Celtic squeeze past Dundee Utd?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 19, 2008, 09:26:44 PM
Is Ziggy a seer?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ziggysego on May 19, 2008, 09:30:31 PM
My predictions are about as reliable as Tony's. Please don't make me predict...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 20, 2008, 09:05:54 AM
Couldn't be a better finish to a league championship, both contenders with a tough away fixture.On this occasion I will not tempt fate by making a prediction but am cautiously optimistic for the first three in a row since the Big Jock era ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on May 20, 2008, 09:17:20 AM
would have accepted a 4-0 result at half time last night the way things were going. celtic still have a bit of a cushion but am i right in thinking that if say rangers were to win 5-0 at aberdeen (which isnt impossible as celtic won 5-1 there a few months ago) then celtic would have to win 2-0 or 3-1 at dundee utd as rangers would have more goals scored?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 20, 2008, 09:47:33 AM
Yes, Celtic currently have a goal difference of 4. Certainly I don't think its going to be a turkey shoot like the last day of the 2003 season when both sides were in exactly the same position but with relatively easy games. These are both tough away games, with wins for both Celtic and Rangers far from guaranteed.

I can't see Rangers scoring a pile of goals at Pittodrie, due to their heavy leggedness at this stage and the fact that Aberdeen and Rangers hate each other with a vengeance, and the pressure.

I have a funny feeling that one of the two will slip up and not actually win their game on Thursday night and I hope its not a case of deja vu for Celtic a la Fir Park in 2005
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Muzz on May 20, 2008, 09:49:31 AM
Celtic have plus 4 goals on Rangers at the moment.  So assuming both teams win - Rangers need to have an advantage of +5 on Celtic.  So if Celtic beat Dundee Utd by 1 goal Rangers need to beat Aberdeen by 6 goals.

If Rangers and Celtic happen to be evn on Goal Difference after Thursday night does it go to Goals Scored?  If that is the case Rangers would win the league...at the moment they are +84 and Celtic +83

Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 20, 2008, 10:27:08 AM
Thursday not going to be easy, for either team.
Aberdeen hate the Hun, but Jimmy Calderwood and Jimmy Nichol don't!!
The Arabs under Craig Levein have no love for either Glasgow team, and may well feel that they have a point to prove to the "old firm" as well as the refs after the debacle in Ipox 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on May 20, 2008, 11:42:26 AM
Back in 2003 didn't Calderwood (who was manager of Dunfermline going into that last game) come out with something like "if Rangers have to score, they'll score"- great way to gee up your team  ::)

Aberdeen love being party poopers and their fans really hate the gers, so hopefully they'll create a good atmosphere to rouse their players out of any possible end-of-season slumber.  They have a few Celtic fans in the team too apparently (Zander Diamond and Miller I think) so they'll be properly motivated anyway! 
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 20, 2008, 12:24:50 PM
Back in 2003 didn't Calderwood (who was manager of Dunfermline going into that last game) come out with something like "if Rangers have to score, they'll score"- great way to gee up your team  ::)

Aberdeen love being party poopers and their fans really hate the gers, so hopefully they'll create a good atmosphere to rouse their players out of any possible end-of-season slumber.  They have a few Celtic fans in the team too apparently (Zander Diamond and Miller I think) so they'll be properly motivated anyway! 
Dunfermline in 2003 had Celtic fans in their team, some 5 or 6 of them were out in Seville.
Those things don't matter,
or I think way too much is made out of them.





Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 20, 2008, 02:20:23 PM
They think its all over! ;D

Hughes Bookmakers Portadown quote the following odds on the Scottish Premier League winners at 1pm to-day (you can thank me for the plug, Mel!)

1/4 Celtic

11/4 Rangers

They are seldom wrong ;D
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: The Gs Man on May 20, 2008, 02:43:01 PM
Thats the whole thing fucked now for sure.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: T Fearon on May 20, 2008, 02:49:40 PM
How is it fcuked? >:(

I am not making predictions, merely stating facts >:(
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on May 20, 2008, 03:13:15 PM
Back in 2003 didn't Calderwood (who was manager of Dunfermline going into that last game) come out with something like "if Rangers have to score, they'll score"- great way to gee up your team  ::)

Aberdeen love being party poopers and their fans really hate the gers, so hopefully they'll create a good atmosphere to rouse their players out of any possible end-of-season slumber.  They have a few Celtic fans in the team too apparently (Zander Diamond and Miller I think) so they'll be properly motivated anyway! 

apparently on setanta last night calderwood was more or less accepting a heavy defeat for the dons on thursday night.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 20, 2008, 03:24:46 PM
Yes he has been quoted as saying that the Dons will get beat.
Also their striker coach, Sandy Clark? said on Setanta last night after his tirade about how Celtic were getting all the ref decisions recently, then said - if Dundee Utd beat Celtic then Rankers win the SPL - Dons fans going mad about it.


From Aberdeen forum =

Zander = Celtic fan
Mackie = Dons fan
Foster = Dons Fan
Considine = Dons fan
Smith = Celtic fan? played for them

No way they'd lie down to Rankgers the Scvm


Their also saying that if anyone was to do a guard of honour for the forces of darkness then it would be more likely be the two Jimmys and their training/management team and not the Aberdeen players.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 22, 2008, 03:58:05 PM
Ah Jesus my stomachs in knots.....!  :-X

Come on the Hoops.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on May 22, 2008, 03:59:03 PM
Was just thinking how difficult it will be for the players to be in the perfect frame of mind tonight so soon after TB's funeral, this was a man they saw and worked with every day until recently, that's bound to affect you mentally.  I still think Celtic will win though and hopefully the Dons get a result too.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2008, 04:00:22 PM
What has to happen? What is the GD situation? They are level on points, right?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on May 22, 2008, 04:02:18 PM
level on points, Celtic have a better GD by 4
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2008, 04:03:17 PM
So if Celtic win tonight, there'd have to be some serious jiggery-pokery going on in the Aberdeen game. Don't Aberdeen and Rangers hate each other?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Rav67 on May 22, 2008, 04:07:56 PM
Yeah the fans despise each other.  They'll not capitulate, Rangers wont stuff them.  Celtic just need to worry about getting the 3 points and the 3-in-a-row will be complete!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: dec on May 22, 2008, 09:06:42 PM
Half an hour to go and no score in either game
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 09:07:55 PM
Very delicate. Celtic not at their best. Boruc inspired.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: dec on May 22, 2008, 09:12:32 PM
Aberdeen 1-0 Rangers
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Apple Top on May 22, 2008, 09:12:46 PM
Aberdeen just scored.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ziggysego on May 22, 2008, 09:15:16 PM
Gonna have to get myself an Aberdeen steak tomorrow ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: DoYerJob Linesman on May 22, 2008, 09:20:21 PM
Yes!!!!

Hesselink 1-0
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 09:21:19 PM
G, S and M.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: DoYerJob Linesman on May 22, 2008, 09:23:53 PM
2-0 Aberdeen
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 22, 2008, 09:24:12 PM
2-0 to the Dons
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
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Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 22, 2008, 09:25:40 PM
Novo red card!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: magickingdom on May 22, 2008, 09:26:12 PM
aberdeen 2-0 up!!!!

might get one of them steaks myself too...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
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Dundee Cakes
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ziggysego on May 22, 2008, 09:42:15 PM
Tony and SammyG?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ziggysego on May 22, 2008, 09:45:30 PM
CELTIC WIN THE SPL
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: clarshack on May 22, 2008, 09:50:14 PM
well done celtic!!!!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 22, 2008, 09:52:40 PM
Rangers end of season:

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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 22, 2008, 09:54:06 PM
The trophy has landed
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
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DUNDEE, UNITED KINGDOM - MAY 22: Pop star and Celtic fan Rod Stewart watches the Clydesdale Bank Premier League match between Dundee United and Celtic at Tannadice Stadium
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Bensars on May 22, 2008, 10:05:43 PM
Watch the presentation here

http://www.setanta.com/en/UK/
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 10:06:28 PM
Hope WGS gets the respect he deserves from the Celtic fans.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 22, 2008, 10:06:54 PM
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: orangeman on May 22, 2008, 10:11:54 PM
Gordon Strachan - only one of three men to manage Celtic to a 3 in a row - Well done to Celtic and Hail Tommy Burns !

The celebrations were very moving and almost surreal - I don't think Celtic supporters can take it in - 7 points down, a game more played and won the league by 3 - a 13 point turnaround !
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 10:17:41 PM
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Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 22, 2008, 10:24:42 PM
just watching these celebrations
unbelievable that this isnt parkhead !
all the fans who didnt get a ticket have now been allowed in and 3 sides of the ground are full, all the celtic songs are being played over the tannoy, wonderful sight
fair play to dundee utd

BTW O'Neill, if that was you who took that photo, fair play - legend !
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: orangeman on May 22, 2008, 10:35:37 PM
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Is that a picture of you O'Neill ?

What are you doing tomorrow night ? Do you fancy going out for a drink ?  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 10:38:30 PM
It's an oul pic I have of gaaboardmod3's blade. It was an entirely honest night though. She was cold so I gave her a couple a bits I found in gaaboardmod3's wardrobe.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on May 22, 2008, 10:40:09 PM
YyyyyyeeeeeeeeoooOOOOOO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Come on Queen of the South
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: orangeman on May 22, 2008, 10:41:42 PM
It's an oul pic I have of gaaboardmod3's blade. It was an entirely honest night though. She was cold so I gave her a couple a bits I found in gaaboardmod3's wardrobe.


Are you sure you don't want to go out for a drink ? I'll buy dinner as well !!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 10:44:01 PM
Someone report me to the mods for that.

Fair play Celtic, but Rangers imploded.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 22, 2008, 10:50:14 PM
Great stuff, one of the sweetest of all,  though I think Rangers knew it was lost when losing the 2nd from last Old Firmer. That one's for Tommy, and credit to the Rangers contingent for the pall-bearing, decent touch.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: gerry on May 22, 2008, 11:14:02 PM
well done the hoops great result, now lets make it four
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 22, 2008, 11:22:24 PM
YA BEAUTY!!!

Jaysus, that was tough going, well done Celtic, never thought I'd see the day in the SPL when the Celts win the league on the last day of the season. It would've been 8 in a row if it wasn't for those 2 Black days...

Fair play to the Celts outside the stadium who made it in for the celebrations and fair play to Dundee United for allowing them in. Fitting end to the week and delighted for all those who knew Tommy Burns, hopefully they'll take some enjoyment from this.

Hopefully Desmond loosens the purse strings now, we desperately need a left back, someone who can play either wing and a center back. Don't think Samaras is quality enough so would be more interested in Celtic signing another striker. Expect to see Donati, Balde, Pressley, Riordan and Killen leave the club but all that would be up in de air if Strachan decides he's had enough. Don't think he will tbh, has an excellent relationship with the board and will find it next to near impossible to get a better gig than Celtic.

Hail, Hail...YNWA
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 11:26:57 PM
Hated that post. Anyone else?
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: stiff breeze on May 22, 2008, 11:30:55 PM
Hated that post. Anyone else?
yeah me 2 ! lol a simple well done would have sufficed!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 22, 2008, 11:41:35 PM
Hated that post. Anyone else?

That's funny (peculiar), love it myself  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on May 22, 2008, 11:44:23 PM
Da and dat are pet hates.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Main Street on May 22, 2008, 11:57:43 PM
I'd say it multiplied the pleasure for the fans of winning the title  knowing that Rangers were kept dangling to 1/2 way through the last game.

Nice to hear them sing at the top of their voices

THERE'S ONLY ONE GORDON STRACHAN
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 22, 2008, 11:58:29 PM
Da and dat are pet hates.
You're talking about the wee writing ONeill  ;) Wouldn't be a fan myself either of the mangling of clear communication, but will forgive just this once (and maybe again).
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: the green man on May 23, 2008, 12:03:42 AM

Nice to hear them sing at the top of their voices

THERE'S ONLY ONE GORDON STRACHAN

True. Very true. I always found it hard to understand that Celtic fans, seem to hold him in some sort of disregard. Hopefully this title, and all that has gone on this past week, lays that all to rest.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 23, 2008, 12:10:08 AM
Hated that post. Anyone else?

Fixd dat 4 u O'Neil  :-*
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on May 23, 2008, 12:13:26 AM
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r gig dan Celtic

Ahem...
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 23, 2008, 12:17:48 AM
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r gig dan Celtic

Ahem...

God damn eagle eyed teachers  :-[
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 23, 2008, 12:18:49 AM
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r gig dan Celtic

Ahem...

Your sirship is showing!
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: ONeill on May 23, 2008, 12:20:00 AM
Brilliant post, Croí na hÉireann. Brings a tear to the eye.
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 23, 2008, 12:21:35 AM
Brilliant post, Croí na hÉireann. Brings a tear to the eye.
dat's better!  ;)
Title: Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 23, 2008, 12:26:07 AM
Brilliant post, Croí na hÉireann. Brings a tear to the eye.

 :D Jaysus Jesus, you're in fine form tonight O'Neill, Armagh4SamAgain has a serious pretender to the throne, mind your back  ;)