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Waterford don't win a game since 2017

Cahill and Bevans step in

5th all ireland final appearance in 6 years.

Minor in 15&16, 21/20 in 18/19, senior in 20.

2 fair operators

No doubt about that PRO. But if the hurlers took over 500k, and the overall figure was 800 odd, what did the Senior Footballers get? I'd be interested to look deeper at those figures without any insinuation attached. It just sounds wrong to me

The half a million figure is what the hurlers spent over 2 years 2019 and 2020

The €800k is what was spent on both hurling and football in 2019

That's the total for one year

You have misread the figures

Maybe you should actually delve into the accounts before you start having digs at "free spending Eddie" and us being better off without him.

So you honestly believe that the hurlers got more funding than the footballers. And you guys saying you're the poor relations every week on here. Come on

Did anyone actually say that?

Let's have a look at the accounts first and amounts spent and deal in the facts before anyone gets up on their high horses as to who got more or less.

Impossible to prove or disprove in my opinion. And if true, Mike Quirke has some serious questions to ask. I can't believe for one minute that the hurlers got more funding than the footballers, and significantly more if that is to be believed. Timely to say the least. I see it's the usual faces playing musical chairs at the top table

It isn't impossible to prove or disprove

It's in the annual accounts

Get onto your club delegate,he or she will have the accounts to hand with everything broken down including  the amount of funding from HQ towards team preparation

Fair points. I guess we need all our players playing, at the very least, to get anywhere near that. No doubt some won't commit now Brennan has gone. Some already didn't anyway. I don't think Tipp or Cavan are missing too many.

Peter Acheson is in Dubai
Liam Mc Grath Australia all ireland minor captain in 2011
Josh Keane Australia young footballer of the year nominee in 2016
John Meagher left to join the hurlers this year

All would be starters

And as a tipp football fan reminded this week,of his top 10 footballers playing club football there, he says only 3 are playing county football,the likes of john Brian Mcgrath and Seamus Kennedy are all gone to the hurlers


We have 2 main issues with Laois Hurling

Governance

And

Culture

We have a lot of the supporters thinking we were great to get so close to to Clare

We weren't

We should have beaten them and that's the reality

Brennan came into Laois with an outsiders perspective and had a lot more belief in our lads than many within the county

A golden crop. We've had those too. Cavan not noted for their hurling and similar population size to Laois. Tipp significantly bigger

They have that many missing and they still got to where they are,now

2 all Ireland semi finals in 5 years when was the last time our golden crops did that?

you describe them as a "golden crop"

the same as if they sprouted overnight,

they havent,

there was a strategic football plan put in place in Tipp as far back as 2008 with the aim of improving juvenile structures,improving coaching,widening the player base and setting aims such as winning minor,u21 and provincial crowns,

the last target was to have them in a an all Ireland senior final by 2020.

I have nephews in a north club in Tipp probably playing or training football a third of the time,this has been in place for the past 10 years

When my brother in law was their age, he wouldn't have even known or cared what a football was.

Every excuse seems to be trundled out in Laois as to why we cant

as opposed to why we can

Fair points. I guess we need all our players playing, at the very least, to get anywhere near that. No doubt some won't commit now Brennan has gone. Some already didn't anyway. I don't think Tipp or Cavan are missing too many.

Peter Acheson is in Dubai
Liam Mc Grath Australia all ireland minor captain in 2011
Josh Keane Australia young footballer of the year nominee in 2016
John Meagher left to join the hurlers this year

All would be starters

And as a tipp football fan reminded this week,of his top 10 footballers playing club football there, he says only 3 are playing county football,the likes of john Brian Mcgrath and Seamus Kennedy are all gone to the hurlers


We have 2 main issues with Laois Hurling

Governance

And

Culture

We have a lot of the supporters thinking we were great to get so close to to Clare

We weren't

We should have beaten them and that's the reality

Brennan came into Laois with an outsiders perspective and had a lot more belief in our lads than many within the county

All things considered, Brennan, funding and the relative strength of our player pool, I do wonder sometimes what the end goal is. Win a Provincial? Seems very unlikely. Just be as good as you can be? What does that even mean? There's a pointlessness to all of this that gets harder to accept with each passing year and disappointment. Whoever follows Brennan, after all he exposed, would need to think long and hard about his future. Brennan did right to jump and I wouldn't blame Quirke if he did likewise. Sad to say, but you have to be realistic.

I have an expectation of a very quick appointment here. Anything/anyone to get the issue off the table. Fire fighting. The same happened with and after Sugrue. Are all these progressive young coaches wrong? Just keep putting the hamster on the wheel

Your right

Let's not bother

The likes of the Cavan and Tipperary football communities should do the same and every other underdog who ever pulled on a jersey,

Ditto with club football in laois

Imagine:

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1126/1180574-cork-gaa-unveil-ambitious-one-cork-vision/

Why shouldn't laois be looking to raise €3-€5m if Cork are looking at €20m

Plenty of names mentioned there. This forum could be useful for the selection committee to review. Plenty of reasons suggedted why people wouldn't come but there are reasons why the job might interest people too!
Just one other point how many managers do Bennettsbridge have? Yesterday it was Sheflin and today Willie Maher is over them.....

Mea Culpa

Shefflin is gone to Thomastown not Bennetsbridge

Maher and Big Dan are gone to Bennetsbridge,no shortage of cash there

Lots of excellent names there is right and I don't want to be negative or shooting down lad especially when I'm all about finding solutions in relation to Laois hurling myself

I do think we are tarnished by this as a hurling county and appointing a manager is just a sticking plaster

Any outside manager worthy of consideration is going to be prearmed and will want nailed down guarantees as regards the support package for the county board probably above and beyond what they can feasibly offer at this moment in time

I think we should look within the county.

The whole juvenile development in this county needs a complete over haul

We need to spend the budget already in place as regards GDA's

We need an independent supporters club in place as well

Our governance needs an overall,we have a hurling board chairman and no hurling board

Plenty of names mentioned there. This forum could be useful for the selection committee to review. Plenty of reasons suggedted why people wouldn't come but there are reasons why the job might interest people too!
Just one other point how many managers do Bennettsbridge have? Yesterday it was Sheflin and today Willie Maher is over them.....

Mea Culpa

Shefflin is gone to Thomastown not Bennetsbridge

Maher and Big Dan are gone to Bennetsbridge,no shortage of cash there

Lots of excellent names there is right and I don't want to be negative or shooting down lad especially when I'm all about finding solutions in relation to Laois hurling myself

I do think we are tarnished by this as a hurling county and appointing a manager is just a sticking plaster

Any manager worthy of consideration is going to be prearmed and will want nailed down guarantees as regards the support package for the county board probably above and beyond what they can feasibly offer at this moment in time

The whole juvenile development in this county needs a complete over haul

We need to spend the budget already in place as regards GDA's

We need an independent supporters club in place as well

Our governance needs an overall,we have a hurling board chairman and no hurling board

Probably two threads / conversations on the go here (1) Our Senior hurling manager (2) Structures for Hurling Development in the county, number 2 needs a lot of discussion and planning & good people back involved ( Cheddar, Pat etc & more GDA positions filled and working )

Number 1 , some ideas, Other than some names already thrown out by Laois Today & Leinster Express

Jeff Lynskey from Galway ( Would also have a very educated input for our Development structures, has done brilliant work in Galway underage )
Willie Maher, highly regarded in Tipp Circles, just left the Cuala Job after two successful years
Darragh Egan , may be tempted like Eddie to cut his teeth now at inter county management
Stephen Frampton - Ballygunner & Waterford
Pat Ryan Current Cork U20 Manager, possibly already lined up for the Cork job in next year or so
Diarmuid O Sullivan, good experience gained in the Cork set up, high profile
Brendan Bugler ? very new to coaching but was on Davys ticket in Clare
Declan Fanning , highly thought of coach with Tipp & Na Piarsaigh (Maybe with Ken Hogan managing?)
Brendan Cummins
Liam Dunne / Willie Cleary Wexford

Just a few ideas. The players will move on quickly so we need to be moving on this immediately with a selection panel put in place and get moving,

Lynskey is waiting for the galway job,brilliant guy,not a hope of him going to Laois

Maher gone to bennetsbridge

Daragh,has a big back room of people reporting into him in the tipp setup,he wouldn't have that problem with laois for starters,still involved hugely with Kiladangan,young family and a school principal

Frampton is first year with Cahill and Bevans,every chance Waterford could win the all ireland this year or next.

Pat ryan in line for cork job soon

The Rock,haven't seen any evidence of what he could bring

Bugler,green and when he went for an interview in Portlaoise CBS they didn't even know who he was

Fanning involved with Killenaule,doubtful if Ken wants to finally bury his management career

Cummins supposed to have been part of the Kerry set up last weekend instead looked after his media career but then again Laois let brennan do the same

Had a quick look through plan and it's all fluff with no substance. A major flaw with any plan is where individual members are not designated to over see tasks. That is the first step to actually bringing about change. Name the individual(s) whose responsibility it is to implement the desired change and have them report back their progress on a regular basis to management/county board. Writing down in strategic plan that the responsibility for completing tasks is that of county board means nothing will be achieved as the onus lies with no one to achieve getting something done or implemented.

Any good organisation would divide work out accordingly. Set realistic targets, and give people responsibility for getting it done. If individuals fail to reach targets or get work done then clearly they shouldn't be in the roles they are in.

That works in a business setting

Much harder to name people and make them personally responsible when everyone is a volunteer and there on a year by year basis

I presume you raised this very point at your clubs meeting when they sent out people to canvass the views of members for inclusion in the report?

If you didn't

Don't worry,those strategic reviews are like buses

another one will be along shortly

https://twitter.com/Offaly_GAA/status/1331297266368458757?s=20

Even the lads north of us are trying to get their house in order - do we have to wait here to be in Christy Ring Cup too to start a similar process?

If getting our house in order is the production of strategic plans which then are ignored and gather dust

We are well ahead of Offaly

The same was done here in 2017 lots of consultations and surveys with "stakeholders"

Here's the plan for 2018-2020

High on aspiration,low on concrete final product

https://laoisgaa.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Laois-GAA-Strategic-and-Action-Plan-2018-2020.pdf

Very disappointing news today but unfortunately was the most likely outcome with Eddie leaving. Niall Corcoran as well big loss in training set. Wouldn't surprise me if Dublin are ringing about their availability after today. Definitely improved first touch and self belief that players can compete. Hopefully that continues with next appointment.
Mick Dempsey I wonder would there be any appetite to get involved. Following years with Kilkenny would be another name and highly rated in Kilkenny with Cody.

As echoed by Ogie need to be putting priorities back in underage structures and trying to get underage teams to compete in Leinster. If we start relying and expecting an outsider person to develop and sustain progress we're going to go nowhere. At both codes. We keep looking for a messiah to turn water into wine.

The senior manager is at the end of the conveyor belt and has to make do with what comes off the line,which was started 15-20 years previously.

I don't care if your Cody but if the infrastructure isn't there at juvenile,your at nothing as Cork have and are learning the hard way.

Hopefully brennans departure might spur a root and Branch shake of hurling development and coaching within the county

I doubt it though

Incorrect, Eamonn Kelly managed Boherlahan to Tipp Junior title a few months after leaving Laois. Then went to Judes in Dublin.
Why not go for Sheflin or Herity. You'd never know. Arien Delaney was the front runner last time and no one even mentioned Brennan. Could be the same this time!

he was in charge of Boherlahans juniors as well after his own juniors

That's his level

Shefflin is gone to Bennett'sbridge for 2021,one phone call to brennan will set him straight as regards Laois.

One of our own would be the best option,because anyone we get from outside will be a journeyman on the circuit.