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There is a difference between banning music and simply not wanting to play it. I'm sure there are plenty of DJs who (like me) couldn't stomach playing "Man in the Mirror" after hearing those revelations. I'm sure there are some who could. That is not a ban.

And it is not actually radio play where we will see this - the Spotify charts will show far more accurately whether people are streaming him still or not. Either way, it is perfectly democratic and a pure expression of both the principle of free speech and the effectiveness of markets (for our right wing friends) if people make that choice.

haven't had a chance to see it yet but a mate of mine was saying the two fellas in it didn't seem entirely honest.

Oh well that settles that then. If MoChara's mate says it, you can take it to the bank.

[The whole the stinks of a money grab ploy to be honest]

Havent seen the documentary but i would not be rushing to believe 2 people who swore under oath that mj had not abused them while he was alive.

If you are a parent would you take 22milion over justice for your kid? The whole the stinks of a money grab ploy to be honest.

You would have to think that there are easier ways to make money than baring your soul on a documentary and exposing yourself to the worst type of online vitriol and hate from legions of single diamante glove wielding weirdoes. In fact, given the baffling vitality of his fan base, a book entitled "MJ - Cool Guy - Defo Not A Paedophile" would be a much simpler way of cashing in?

Perhaps before saying The whole the stinks of a money grab ploy to be honest you might rectify this Havent seen the documentary ?

Good man.

[which is a complete hoax]

Ocasio-Cortez now wants to decide if you can have children because she is concerned about climate change (which is a complete hoax). Not an issue for the Beta males I guess.

Do you really believe that?
And is it a pre-requisite of being a Republican to believe it?

I'm right of centre generally, but not on every single issue. Average around 7 in a scale of 1 to 10, but climate change is something that to me, is very clearcut.

Not that I'd ever be able to vote in a US election, but if I could, and if there existed a Republican candidate, who did believe in climate change (and wasn't a complete loon), then I'd say that person would be a strong contender for my vote. But I'm not sure such a candidate exists!

It's called weather. The left are using the phrase "Climate Change" to indoctrinate the gullible.

Remember Al Gore? We're still here!!
Ocasio-Mental-Case has now said that the world has only 12 more years. Yet another case of using this spook tactic to grab power.
There are a lot who are falling for it.

What a pile of utter shit.

First, the term "climate change" was popularized in US politics by Frank Luntz during the early GW Bush years as a "less-scary" alternative to global warming.

Second, whatever Gore said or didn't say (and he's a politician, NOT a scientist), there is no science which claims that the planet is going to disappear or that humans are going to disappear in the near future due to climate change. We could get into the science and the rate at which weather records of all kinds are being smashed now every year, but that would require some thought and consideration and logic on your part, not just empty, knee-jerk, right-wing punchlines.

Hey - the democrats leaders themselves have said it.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/01/22/ocasio-cortez_the_world_is_going_to_end_in_12_years_if_we_dont_address_climate_change.html


Gore made a lot of money from his prediction.

Yeah, I said SCIENCE and scientists, NOT politicians. I don't really give a shit if Gore made money on his book and movie. At least it was in service of a real and legitimate problem. I do give a shit if AOC goes overboard on the hype as it doesn't do any favours for a legitimate cause and gives charlatans like yourself and the people you support an easy distraction to take away from the utter bankruptcy, both moral and intellectual, of your "arguments" on the topic.

WTF are you still doing responding to this poster J70. You could fact check him until the end of time. Lucky for him, we've only got about a dozen years before climate change moves into an irreversible spiral which could lead to the end of human civilisation (which is a prediction from an IPCC report which AOC was quoting, for those who still care about accuracy). And at that stage no one will care about trolling on discussion boards and he will have won his argument. MAGA.

For work, I go to the European parliament in Strasbourg once or twice a year.

It is a beautiful city, the Cathedral quarter is really lovely all year round. Strasbourg was selected as the home of the parliament because of its geography - Alsace was the disputed territory between France and Germany, the touch paper for regional conflict  throughout the centuries and it changed hands multiple times.

Because of this Strasbourg has as much a Germanic, huddled, middle European look to it as it has that wide lens, boulevardier French style. The parliament itself is on the outskirts of the city.

If you know your history you can appreciate the difficulties of the European project - the utter difference between countries, from language, to style, to attitude, to politics. Coherence is immensely hard to achieve. But if you sit in one of the cafes and realise that 75 years ago, tanks with Swastikas were rolling across the tram lines in the Place De la Republique as they were chased out of Alsace by Patton's army, then it is easy to comprehend how fragile and how precious a Europe with democracy is. And how easy it could be for us all to return to that.

The parliament building is as massive and confusingly laid out as legend has it. I've been there 6 times now and I still get lost in it. But is also beautiful, an astonishing architectural and practical achievement. I work in media and the facilities and organisation are amazing.

When I first entered it, I was as cynical of bureaucracy/corrupt politicians as others on this thread. But one thing that struck me was how deeply people feel about the institutions there. None of the MEPs I have met have appeared to me to there simply for the gravy train. I have met MEPs from across the strata - German Greens, English Tories and UKIPers, Italian Lega, SNP, Spanish Podemos - and they all believe in the importance, for good or ill, of the European project. So it is very far from the stultifying, boring place that I thought it would be. Sure, there is self interest, there is in any large institution. But in general, it works - plenary sessions are opened, debates are held, votes taken, laws made.

I think the financial crisis, rightly, has made us suspicious of the EU. They certainly hung us out to dry in many ways, to protect larger interests in Germany, France, even as far as America. And in so doing, and in their willingness to accept that corporate interests had to be prioritised in order for some greater good (stability of the euro, of central banks, of an out-moded brand of rapacious capitalism), they have scarred working people throughout Europe. And you don't get the rise of right wing populism without that scarring, without a sense of injustice, that things are stacked against the most vulnerable.

However, I also think lessons are slowly being learned. The darkness into which Hungary and, just behind them, Poland, are slipping is in contrast to the brightness of the original vision of the Treaty of Rome. If the past 15 years have taught us anything it is that the system must serve the people, rather then the people propping up the system. If neo liberalism is not the answer - and we see from Davos this year that it is dawning on the elites that it is not - then institutions like the EU can be instrumental in that change. Remember, it is the EU who prosecuted Apple for tax avoidance. They also formulated GDPR which has massive implications for big tech. When its power is used in the right way it is extraordinarily effective. 

People are strange, forgetful and superstitious creatures. They think that just because cappuccinos in cafes and cheap clothes in H&M were available today, they will be available tomorrow. They forget that the modern, consumerist society (which has massive flaws, and which must  transition to something far more sustainable) that we have now is based on a shared understanding of our rights, our dignity as humans, and our capacity to tolerate the other. If that understanding is not renewed in every generation, then it can disappear instantly - because after all, it is only an ideal. The only German run concentration camp established on French soil during WWII was in Alsace. 22,000 people died there. The EC/EU was a direct response to that barbarity.

Criticise it? Yes. Reform it? Absolutely. Abandon it? At our own peril.

It's actually hard to read his stuff now - Dublin v Kerry was a favourite of mine but it is very hard to separate the writer from the writings. Such a terrible crime and such a waste of talent.

I assume he is still inside but it was only a 30 month sentence which was given in Oct 2017. So, he will be out early in 2021 or perhaps before - I don't know if good behaviour applies.

With regard to Trump and Class A's - apparently crushed up Adderall is his poison of choice - ironic that a President who has completely betrayed all the promises he made about opioids might be himself abusing a prescription medicine.

[Kerry]

1974–75 – Meath 0–16 Dublin 1–9
1975–76 – Dublin 2–10 Derry 0–15
1976–77 – Kerry 1–8 Dublin 1–6
1977–78 – Dublin 2–18 Mayo 2–13
1978–79 – Roscommon 0–15 Cork 1–3
1979–80 – Cork 0–11 Kerry 0–10
1980–81 – Galway 1–11 Roscommon 1–3
1981–82 – Kerry 1–9 Cork 0–5 (replay)
1982–83 – Down 1–8 Armagh 0–8
1983–84 – Kerry 1–11 Galway 0–11
1984–85 – Monaghan 1–11 Armagh 0–9
1985-86 – Laois 2–6 Monaghan 2–5

Kerry appeared in 3 National League finals between 1975 and 1986 - They had to rest for the winter?


2011 – Cork 0-21 Dublin 2-14
2012 – Cork 2-10 Mayo 0-11
2013 – Dublin 0-18 Tyrone 0-17[1]
2014 – Dublin 3-19 Derry 1-10
2015 – Dublin 1-21 Cork 2-7
2016 – Dublin 2-18 Kerry 0-13
2017 – Kerry 0–20 Dublin 1–16
2018 – Dublin 0–18 Galway 0–14

Dublin have appeared in 7 out of 8 National League finals between 2011 and 2018 - No need to rest for the winter?

Dublin have the squad and the set-up to run from League to championship.

This has never happened before!

If you read any of the books from the members of that Kerry team, and Tom Humphries history of the rivalry "Dublin v Kerry", you'd know that resting during the League was exactly what both teams did.

During the period you are erroneously claiming knowledge of, the League was a far less prestigious competition than it became in the early 90s and then again from the late noughties onward. Check out the amount of date changes of the league final from those periods - it was often postponed due to format changes (it was a constant debate as to when the League should actually take place, precisely because the GAA wanted teams to take it more seriously), weather delays etc (pitches were a state back then).

The Kerry and Dublin teams of the time were far more concerned about the All Star Trips that led to matches like the Sister Consilio massacre in New York than league games that were much more about blooding young fellas than they are now (even though that is still a big trend).

Players like Paidi always started getting themselves "ready for Dwyer" as he put it with an eye on the Championship, not the League.

As for modern day Dublin, it is no secret that Gilroy and Gavin afterwards took a lot of inspiration from Brian Cody (who actually has 9 League titles, so this has happened before), in that he thought doing well in the League was essential for success later on in the year. So from a time in the late noughties when we spent a season in Division 2 under Piller, when Gilroy came in be made the League title a priority.

So you can see, you are actually comparing apples with oranges. As I advised before, you should actually start supporting the game seriously, which includes appreciating the history and context of the achievements of previous generations. Otherwise you end up eating orange pie. Enjoy.

[At the end of the day, you ask the likes of Mike Sheehy how many All-Irelands he won and he can show you 8, same for a lot of the rest of that great Kerry team.]

At the end of the day, you ask the likes of Mike Sheehy how many All-Irelands he won and he can show you 8, same for a lot of the rest of that great Kerry team. They also won the majority (exception 1980) of those All-Irelands in style, whereas Dublin scraped past the post. 5 in a row won't make Dublin a greater team.

Jesus, the ignorance - ask the likes of Cluxton, O'Sullivan and McCarthy how many do they have and they will say six and gunning for seven. Huge difference, eh?

The vital difference, my erudite friend, is that Kerry played on a level pitch with every other county.
They didn't have the benefits of state of the art physical training or sports psychology either. Come to think of it, they didn't have the combined total of 16 other counties to choose from either and more importantly perhaps, the national resources of 50% of it s resources either. (BTW, Simon Coveney said that first, not me.)
I am not being anti-Dublin for the sake of it when I say this.
But I defer to the judgement of Mick O'Dwyer on the subject. (Well, he would say this, wouldn't he?)
According to Micko, the greatest team of all time should compete on equal terms with at least one other side. Kerry beat the socks off all comers during their reign and Dublin...?
What about Mayo? With roughly one tenth of Dublin's population and with tremendous travelling issues, they did remarkably well , didn't they?
So, Dublin may well pull clear of all others in this years championships and all along the route to it and that would mean at least two years clear of the rest. I would be willing to consider them to be the best then but I will wait until and, more importantly, if, that should happen. until then, I'll not commit myself to anything.

Micko was not talking about financial issues or playing population. He was talking about how a great team must be pushed and defined by the other 15 players on the field. And so, his great Kerry sides had Dublin, Offaly, Cork and Offaly as foils.

Since Dublin won in 2011 - beating Kerry by a point, they have won all the All Irelands up to last year's final by no more than 3 points, and been involved in replays for semi finals and finals. Along the way, they have participated in at least three games (v Kerry 2013, v Donegal 2014, final v Mayo in 2017) that have legitimate claims to be amongst the greatest ever played.

Between 2011 and 2015 Kerry, Mayo, Donegal all would have counted themselves as All Ireland contenders or favourites alongside Dublin. Donegal burned out (as happens to smaller counties where gifted generations come along - see Donegal 1992) and Kerry have gone into a period of transition (as happened between 86 and 97 - but it looks like it will be a lot shorter this time and they are only 4 years away from their last AI win) and Mayo, as is constantly said here, and amongst many Dublin fans, could have beaten us at least three times during the 7 games we played from 2012 onwards rather than the once that they actually did (which was another classic of a game).

So, rather than acknowledge the psychological failings of your own team, you enlist the paraphrased thoughts of Mick O'Dwyer (a man who never saw a challenge he couldn't best, a man who dedicated his life to maximising the resources at his disposal, and to proving the fallibility of Dublin) to say that you never could have won, that the game was stacked and that life just isn't fair.

Well life isn't fair, and the best way to learn this, usually, is to participate in or at least follow sports. I'd recommend you start doing that seriously.

I sometimes think it would have been better for us if you had won one of the those All Ireland finals - you would have been killed telling us for years that you beat the best team of all time.

As for my erudition, I save that for the arguments that deserve its employment. Yours, unfortunately, doesn't and never has.

[If any other team other than Mayo (or Kildare) had played the Dubs in 3 finals would they not have won 1 of them ? I dunno]

Dublin have currently won 26 games in a row . The most that Kerry group managed was 19.

When Dublin pick up Sam this year they will be probably have won 34 games in a row. The equivalent of 8 AIs for Kerry in the 70s/80s.

They currently have only lost 2 games in 36 matches. That is the greatest legacy of all time.

If Kildare had the pick of 1.2 m people and more money than everyone else they would have won as much, more than likely

It's Kildare......

When did you join the revolution?

Maybe last year some time. Mayo gave the illusion of competition. 
If any other team other than Mayo (or Kildare) had played the Dubs in 3 finals would they not have won 1 of them ? I dunno

I think there is a strong case for counties boycotting the competition now until the GAA restructures it.

Watching the dubs win 6 or 7 in a row is pointless. That's not what your dreams should be.

It may have escaped your notice that Dublin played Kerry in 2 All Ireland finals and two semi finals since 2011 - winning by a point and 3 points in the finals, and by 7 points (in the greatest game I have ever seen in 2013) and by 2 points (in the most intense game I have ever seen - which includes being at Tyrone v Armagh in the 2005 semifinal) in the semis.

You may argue about how and why Dublin became the greatest of their era - nothing I can say will stop that. But trying to say that what they have achieved does not compare to what Kerry did in the 70s and 80s is both condescending to the teams of today and historically illiterate when you look at what that Kerry team actually had to do and who they had to beat to win their 8 All Irelands.

[At the end of the day, you ask the likes of Mike Sheehy how many All-Irelands he won and he can show you 8, same for a lot of the rest of that great Kerry team.]

At the end of the day, you ask the likes of Mike Sheehy how many All-Irelands he won and he can show you 8, same for a lot of the rest of that great Kerry team. They also won the majority (exception 1980) of those All-Irelands in style, whereas Dublin scraped past the post. 5 in a row won't make Dublin a greater team.

Jesus, the ignorance - ask the likes of Cluxton, O'Sullivan and McCarthy how many do they have and they will say six and gunning for seven. Huge difference, eh?

[North could play Parnell Park and South at Abbotsown]

Looking at this subjectively, I think one solution may be to devide Dublin into two. North and South. I know this has been mooted previously, some even say devide into four, but there's a strong case to be made for it on economical grounds too....given this seems to be a driving influence!

It's well known that Dubliners are very sensitive to their North /South roots so this rivalry could open up even more passion for games within the capital.  North could play Parnell Park and South at Abbotsown. Croke Park could return to the organisation.

On the basis there's now 34 counties (London included) a motion should be forwarded that in interests of financial parity that all annual revenue allocated for development is distributed equally between 34 participating counties. Yes both Dublins would still attract major sponsorship etc but there would be a much more level playing field for all.

So we are meant to take seriously a proposal to split Dublin based on the Northside playing at an 11k capacity Donnycarney venue, and the Southside playing in a non-existent stadium at the sports campus in Dublin's North west

Sloppy stuff, like a lot of the arguments around this, including Mr. McKenna's.

[What is the opposite of being a soyboy]

"Governor Northam has lost all moral authority and should resign immediately, Justin Fairfax is the leader Virginia needs now."

Joe Biden - Feb 2nd

He is indeed. PMSL. Boy the Democrats have been quiet this week - they know they've taken a hiding.
From Virginia to Trump's mega-SOTU to Occasio-Idiots cow flatulence ban. Democrats want to turn everyone into soyboys.

I take it soyboy is a bad thing? What is the opposite of being a soyboy?

A man.
It's pretty bad. Soyboys are pathetic excuses for humans.

If this bunch of nutjobs get in you'll be eating quorn and tofu for every meal. No more meat.

So I assume by your antipathy to soy, you don't use it. Which makes you a man?

Watch Cuck Central weeknights 

You didn't answer my question. If you're not a soyboy, what are you?

I'd call myself an alpha male.
I like God, cars, guns and hot women. And GAA.

Hi. 2 genuine questions.

Has anyone else bar you ever called you an Alpha male?

Have you ever called anyone a soyboy to their face? (if so, what was their reaction?)

yes and yes, they ran away crying.

Thanks

Again, this is quite genuine.

Can I ask who called you an alpha male (or at least their relationship to you)?

And can I ask the same for who you called soyboy?

Thanks

Which agency do you work for and am I under oath?

I'm asking for myself, and of course you don't have to answer, I'm just genuinely interested.

So, could you answer the above, please?

[What is the opposite of being a soyboy]

"Governor Northam has lost all moral authority and should resign immediately, Justin Fairfax is the leader Virginia needs now."

Joe Biden - Feb 2nd

He is indeed. PMSL. Boy the Democrats have been quiet this week - they know they've taken a hiding.
From Virginia to Trump's mega-SOTU to Occasio-Idiots cow flatulence ban. Democrats want to turn everyone into soyboys.

I take it soyboy is a bad thing? What is the opposite of being a soyboy?

A man.
It's pretty bad. Soyboys are pathetic excuses for humans.

If this bunch of nutjobs get in you'll be eating quorn and tofu for every meal. No more meat.

So I assume by your antipathy to soy, you don't use it. Which makes you a man?

Watch Cuck Central weeknights 

You didn't answer my question. If you're not a soyboy, what are you?

I'd call myself an alpha male.
I like God, cars, guns and hot women. And GAA.

Hi. 2 genuine questions.

Has anyone else bar you ever called you an Alpha male?

Have you ever called anyone a soyboy to their face? (if so, what was their reaction?)

yes and yes, they ran away crying.

Thanks

Again, this is quite genuine.

Can I ask who called you an alpha male (or at least their relationship to you)?

And can I ask the same for who you called soyboy?

Thanks

[What is the opposite of being a soyboy]

"Governor Northam has lost all moral authority and should resign immediately, Justin Fairfax is the leader Virginia needs now."

Joe Biden - Feb 2nd

He is indeed. PMSL. Boy the Democrats have been quiet this week - they know they've taken a hiding.
From Virginia to Trump's mega-SOTU to Occasio-Idiots cow flatulence ban. Democrats want to turn everyone into soyboys.

I take it soyboy is a bad thing? What is the opposite of being a soyboy?

A man.
It's pretty bad. Soyboys are pathetic excuses for humans.

If this bunch of nutjobs get in you'll be eating quorn and tofu for every meal. No more meat.

So I assume by your antipathy to soy, you don't use it. Which makes you a man?

Watch Cuck Central weeknights 

You didn't answer my question. If you're not a soyboy, what are you?

I'd call myself an alpha male.
I like God, cars, guns and hot women. And GAA.

Hi. 2 genuine questions.

Has anyone else bar you ever called you an Alpha male?

Have you ever called anyone a soyboy to their face? (if so, what was their reaction?)