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Title: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Mentalman on September 04, 2007, 11:39:59 AM
*Removed due to title change, would have deleted it if possible*
Title: Re: Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: full back on September 04, 2007, 11:46:32 AM
Cue T Fearon with a tirade of abuse
Title: Re: Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Mentalman on September 04, 2007, 12:00:28 PM
Just wondering who's going to forfeit the points and have a 3-0 loss registered against them?
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: T Fearon on September 04, 2007, 01:23:24 PM
Firstly Kane is never going to make the real Ireland senior squad and he has probably been told that by Don Givens.

Darron Gibson is the real star with ambition.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: nifan on September 04, 2007, 02:30:36 PM
Did you not highly rate kane not that long ago?

And why would someone tell a player on the fringe of a premiership club they will never make the senior squad? That would be a very strange thing to do.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: T Fearon on September 04, 2007, 02:56:48 PM
How else can his change of heart be explained in the space of a couple of months? Also I have no doubt that Worthington has stalked him and promised him a full cap in the next few months etc.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: nifan on September 04, 2007, 03:03:12 PM
Kane initially switched after being frustrated over an administration error by the IFA youth teams that screwed him over - the FAI saw this and got him over.
Worthington has obviously apologised etc. and kane has decided to return.

As it happens e will be in our senior squad now, and perhaps he will get the cap sooner rather than later. I will be happy enough as he is a good wee player, and id rather have him as an option than not (i regret not having the option of gibson or oconnor still)

Id ask if you think that the ROI has such a strong team that you can tell young players at premiership clubs they have no chance.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: T Fearon on September 04, 2007, 04:11:20 PM
I suppose its all to do with pecking orders at any given time, and it sounds like he sees a better chance in getting a place in a defence where his main rivals are Chris Baird, Aaron Hughes etc rather than Steve Finnan, Richard Dunne and John O'Shea. Can hardly blame him! ;D
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: nifan on September 04, 2007, 05:13:27 PM
Seriously - how much strength in depth do the ROI have at the back that they could tell him he has no chance.

your current squad:
Richard Dunne - Manchester City
Steve Finnan - Liverpool
Kevin Foley - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Stephen Kelly - Birmingham City
Paul McShane - Sunderland
John O’Shea - Manchester United

Is kevin foley that much better a prospect than Kane?
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Main Street on September 04, 2007, 07:11:17 PM
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Kane initially switched after being frustrated over an administration error by the IFA youth teams that screwed him over - the FAI saw this and got him ove
And you think the FAI are blessed with such vision  ;D

How about Kane contacted them about declaring and Kane sent in his written request to FIFA.

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and why would someone tell a player on the fringe of a premiership club they will never make the senior squad? That would be a very strange thing to do.
It's nonsense anyway. Givens has no sway with the senior team.
Kane was not picked for a competitive u21 match. It is more likely that Kane could not get a gaurentee from Givens that he would be in the u21 team. Givens is a football grinch :) 
 We are lucky that any of our footballers manage to survive that phase of their path through the underage set up.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: heganboy on September 04, 2007, 07:21:51 PM
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Can hardly blame him! Grin

Oh I'd say you'll blame him for something sooner or later
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: nifan on September 05, 2007, 09:41:57 AM
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Kane initially switched after being frustrated over an administration error by the IFA youth teams that screwed him over - the FAI saw this and got him ove
And you think the FAI are blessed with such vision  ;D

How about Kane contacted them about declaring and Kane sent in his written request to FIFA.

Fair enough my - it may have been him contacted the FAI, though i heard the opposite, not sure.

What is certain it was the IFA calling him back from a blackburn pre season to play for the youth team, then failing to register him for the tournament that caused it all.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Main Street on September 05, 2007, 11:48:48 AM
It was Givens who stated that it was Kane who approached the FAI asking to play for Ireland.

Kane played for the Republic in an U-21 friendly against Germany last week

"If it's true, it would be a massive change of heart from Tony," said Givens.

Could indicate that he does not have much of a rapport with Givens.
Indicates a strong decision taken in private.
Could also be the result of an unethical fervent approach by the NI manager to a player registered with another federation.
Imo, it smacks of IFA hypocrecy.

I have never seen Kane play also I don't know in what esteem he was held by Givens. Looks like he might have been good enough for the u21 squad.
It is his right to change his mind, he always had up to the age of 21 as long as he only played underage friendlies for Ireland..


Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Chrisowc on September 05, 2007, 12:26:38 PM
Could also be the result of an unethical fervent approach by the NI manager to a player registered with another federation.
Imo, it smacks of IFA hypocrecy.


Hardly unethical or hypocritical of the IFA approaching a player born within the IFA's jurisdiction.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Main Street on September 05, 2007, 12:30:37 PM
The bit you missed was 'registered to another Federation'.
Where the player was born or who he qualifies for doesn't come into it.
He can only change federations after his request for a transfer to NI has been processed by FIFA.

IFA "tapping"
Unethical but not illegal.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Chrisowc on September 05, 2007, 12:43:15 PM
The bit you missed was 'registered to another Federation'.
Where the player was born or who he qualifies for doesn't come into it.
He can only change federations after his request for a transfer to NI has been processed by FIFA.

IFA "tapping"
Unethical but not illegal.

I was going to add - regardless of what federation he is registered with.

By your logic Kane has made an unethical decision to switch back.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: his holiness nb on September 05, 2007, 12:49:26 PM

By your logic Kane has made an unethical decision to switch back.


Excellent point Chris. But not suprising given the culture or looking after no1 amongst pro soccer players these days.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Main Street on September 05, 2007, 12:51:45 PM
I was going to add - regardless of what federation he is registered with.

By your logic Kane has made an unethical decision to switch back.

Are you fecking twisted or just trolling.
I said Kane had every right.

Play your twisted game somewhere else
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Chrisowc on September 05, 2007, 12:59:15 PM
I was going to add - regardless of what federation he is registered with.

By your logic Kane has made an unethical decision to switch back.

Are you fecking twisted or just trolling.
I said Kane had every right.

Play your twisted game somewhere else


I am not doing either.  You have said Kane had the right to switch back and therefore the IFA have every right to approach Kane.  We can agree to disagree.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Main Street on September 05, 2007, 01:14:21 PM
I am not doing either.  You have said Kane had the right to switch back and therefore the IFA have every right to approach Kane.  We can agree to disagree.
Seeing as you have changed your tactless previous "logical" output.

Well let me stretch your logic.
If the IFA have the right to approach players registered for another federation yet eligible for the IFA
then the FAI have right to approach players eligible for playing for their team.
That is, make public announcements about such legibility, make public appeals through the media and make personal contact with the players in question.
To this very second of this very minute nothing has changed since the FIFA legal department have sent a letter to the IFA in October 2006 saying that those born in NI are eligible to declare for the Republic. Nothing has changed, not even a hint that FIFA have anything else on their mind.

Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Chrisowc on September 05, 2007, 01:22:28 PM
I am not doing either.  You have said Kane had the right to switch back and therefore the IFA have every right to approach Kane.  We can agree to disagree.
Seeing as you have changed your tactless previous "logical" output.

Well let me stretch your logic.
If the IFA have the right to approach players registered for another federation yet eligible for the IFA
then the FAI have right to approach players eligible for playing for their team.
That is, make public announcements about such legibility, make public appeals through the media and make personal contact with the players in question.
To this very second of this very minute nothing has changed since the FIFA legal department have sent a letter to the IFA in October 2006 saying that those born in NI are eligible to declare for the Republic. Nothing has changed, not even a hint that FIFA have anything else on their mind.

Of course the FAI have a right to approach players eligible for their team.  Are you telling me they have never made a public announcement, made a public appeal or made personal approach for a player also eligible another association?

I wasn't aware of the contents of a letter sent to the IFA in October 2006 saying that those born in NI are eligible for the Rebublic.  I would be grateful if you could direct me to the contents of this letter.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Main Street on September 05, 2007, 02:18:28 PM
FIFA letter of reply from their legal heads
http://news.bbc.co.uk/solpda/ukfs_sport/hi/newsid_6083000/6083842.stm

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Are you telling me they have never made a public announcement, made a public appeal or made personal approach for a player also eligible another association?

Eligibility is one thing, loads of players are eligible but being actually registered with the national federation and selected to play in the teams most very recent u21 friendly is another thing. I haven't come across a case of such blatant public tapping as with Kane.

For my part, the players interest come first, good luck to Kane.

Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: nifan on September 05, 2007, 02:26:23 PM
I haven't come across a case of such blatant public tapping as with Kane.

Chris Baird?
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Main Street on September 05, 2007, 02:36:44 PM
I don't know about the Chris Baird situation. Is he the exception that proves the rule :)
I do not have any reason to doubt that he was asked to declare for the Republic.
But I never heard about it in the Irish media or anything so blatant as the the IFA bluffers.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Solomon Kane on September 05, 2007, 05:18:14 PM
It was Givens who stated that it was Kane who approached the FAI asking to play for Ireland.

Kane played for the Republic in an U-21 friendly against Germany last week

"If it's true, it would be a massive change of heart from Tony," said Givens.

Could indicate that he does not have much of a rapport with Givens.
Indicates a strong decision taken in private.
Could also be the result of an unethical fervent approach by the NI manager to a player registered with another federation.
Imo, it smacks of IFA hypocrecy.

I have never seen Kane play also I don't know in what esteem he was held by Givens. Looks like he might have been good enough for the u21 squad.
It is his right to change his mind, he always had up to the age of 21 as long as he only played underage friendlies for Ireland..





Don't forget that Kane has already represented Northern Ireland. It may not be that much of a change of heart for him. He was messed about by them to their usual standard and was overlooked for the Milk Cup team and became naturally frustrated. It is more than likely that he has formed strong bonds with others in the NI set-up, and that is where his loyalties lie - to team-mates he has grown up with as opposed to one state or the other. Even if the Gibson case goes the FAIs way coaxing other young lads to walk away from team-mates (and friends) is going to be a major hurdle for them. 
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: magickingdom on September 05, 2007, 07:52:33 PM
It was Givens who stated that it was Kane who approached the FAI asking to play for Ireland.

Kane played for the Republic in an U-21 friendly against Germany last week

"If it's true, it would be a massive change of heart from Tony," said Givens.

Could indicate that he does not have much of a rapport with Givens.
Indicates a strong decision taken in private.
Could also be the result of an unethical fervent approach by the NI manager to a player registered with another federation.
Imo, it smacks of IFA hypocrecy.

I have never seen Kane play also I don't know in what esteem he was held by Givens. Looks like he might have been good enough for the u21 squad.
It is his right to change his mind, he always had up to the age of 21 as long as he only played underage friendlies for Ireland..





Don't forget that Kane has already represented Northern Ireland. It may not be that much of a change of heart for him. He was messed about by them to their usual standard and was overlooked for the Milk Cup team and became naturally frustrated. It is more than likely that he has formed strong bonds with others in the NI set-up, and that is where his loyalties lie - to team-mates he has grown up with as opposed to one state or the other. Even if the Gibson case goes the FAIs way coaxing other young lads to walk away from team-mates (and friends) is going to be a major hurdle for them. 

ha ha pull the other one. lets all join the windsor park love in  :D
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: SammyG on September 05, 2007, 09:01:06 PM
I am not doing either.  You have said Kane had the right to switch back and therefore the IFA have every right to approach Kane.  We can agree to disagree.
Seeing as you have changed your tactless previous "logical" output.

Well let me stretch your logic.
If the IFA have the right to approach players registered for another federation yet eligible for the IFA
then the FAI have right to approach players eligible for playing for their team.
Sorry but not for the first time I have to ask if you;re mental or just trolling. Kane isn't elligible for the RoI, he was born and bred in NI. Why should the IFA not approach players that are elligible to play for them? The issue with Kane, O'Connor, Baird etc is that the FAI are approaching players that have no elligibility (and doing so in a purely sectarian manner but that's a different story)

That is, make public announcements about such legibility, make public appeals through the media and make personal contact with the players in question.
Sorry but again that's bollix. If a team pick inelligible players (as the RoI are threatening to do but haven't yet) then they must expect to be dealt with by FIFA.
To this very second of this very minute nothing has changed since the FIFA legal department have sent a letter to the IFA in October 2006 saying that those born in NI are eligible to declare for the Republic. Nothing has changed, not even a hint that FIFA have anything else on their mind.


Complete lie, where do you get this nonsense from? The only letter that the FAI have recieved is one asking for details of Gibson and O'Connor's elligibility under the 4 criteria. To date the FAI have not provided this documentation (nor can they as he doesn't meet any of them.)
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Main Street on September 05, 2007, 09:34:20 PM
Trolling again Sammy or just naturally thick?
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 05, 2007, 09:53:19 PM
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I assure you Darron Gibson is not eligible for the beggars. Howard Wells has promised us. He will destroy them.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: SammyG on September 06, 2007, 12:45:49 PM
Trolling again Sammy or just naturally thick?
Neither, you're the one that's spouting nonsense. Strange that you haven't addressed any of my points.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Main Street on September 06, 2007, 01:19:04 PM
Trolling again Sammy or just naturally thick?
Neither, you're the one that's spouting nonsense. Strange that you haven't addressed any of my points.
Nothing strange about that, plenty of points by me have been made already in this thread or another, go and do your research into those posts. It is clearly evident that you are trolling on this issue, take such a mindset back to the OWC or get use to it that I at least will not respond to this base debate technique, on this board. 
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Chrisowc on September 06, 2007, 01:37:08 PM
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I assure you Darron Gibson is not eligible for the beggars. Howard Wells has promised us. He will destroy them.

Made me laugh GalwayBayBoy.

Sammy.  Disagreeing with Main Street = trolling.
Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: Main Street on September 06, 2007, 04:00:23 PM

Look Chris owc I have no problem to discuss any issue on this point or any other point for that matter. There comes a point when somebody writes
"Kane isn't elligible for the RoI"
That levels of stupidity have been lowered. When in the face of all evidence he is (or was) eligible according to FIFA and until his transfer back to the IFA has been processed by FIFA, he not eligible for NI.

There is no possibility to discuss any matter when the bar is lowered to the gutter level of his questions. It is out and out stubborness coupled with a lazy stuck intellect. Yes that equates with trolling

Let somebody else discuss issues ad nauseam with the brain dead.





Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: SammyG on September 06, 2007, 04:23:51 PM

Look Chris owc I have no problem to discuss any issue on this point or any other point for that matter. There comes a point when somebody writes
"Kane isn't elligible for the RoI"
That levels of stupidity have been lowered.
How is it stupidity to state a fact. He is not elligible for the RoI.
When in the face of all evidence he is (or was) eligible according to FIFA and until his transfer back to the IFA has been processed by FIFA, he not eligible for NI.
What evidence, FIFA say they're awaiting info from the FAI and until they have that they can't make a decision. The FAI in the meantime haven't actually played any of the disputed players because they know they'd face sanctions.
There is no possibility to discuss any matter when the bar is lowered to the gutter level of his questions. It is out and out stubborness coupled with a lazy stuck intellect. Yes that equates with trolling
Sorry let me get this straight. You are unable to read and understand the FIFA statutes and then you invent a lie about a letter from FIFA and when I challenge you this displays my 'lazy stuck intellect'. Right excellent glad we've got that cleared
Let somebody else discuss issues ad nauseam with the brain dead.
Seems like a sensible approach and as you clearly are not only brain-dead but a fantatistm it's probably wise to stop replying to you.





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Title: Re: Tony Kane - Sauce for the goose and all that...
Post by: magickingdom on September 06, 2007, 09:48:59 PM

Look Chris owc I have no problem to discuss any issue on this point or any other point for that matter. There comes a point when somebody writes
"Kane isn't elligible for the RoI"
That levels of stupidity have been lowered. When in the face of all evidence he is (or was) eligible according to FIFA and until his transfer back to the IFA has been processed by FIFA, he not eligible for NI.

There is no possibility to discuss any matter when the bar is lowered to the gutter level of his questions. It is out and out stubborness coupled with a lazy stuck intellect. Yes that equates with trolling

Let somebody else discuss issues ad nauseam with the brain dead.








too true, best post of the year (non gaa section)
Title: Official We Exist/No You Don't thread
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on September 07, 2007, 04:53:14 PM
Hi All,

Likewise, this is the thread for all NI soccer issues.
Title: Re: Official We Exist/No You Don't thread
Post by: ziggysego on September 07, 2007, 05:01:36 PM
Can you move the existing threads on in here and they don't appear to be listening?
Title: Re: Official We Exist/No You Don't thread
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on September 07, 2007, 05:04:21 PM
I'm not going back through 126 pages :D

I've added the Tommy Kane one.Start from here.
Title: Re: Official We Exist/No You Don't thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 07, 2007, 05:04:57 PM
Could you move the Gibson debate here too please as the FAI thread was created to discuss upcoming matches and team selections etc?
Title: Re: Official We Exist/No You Don't thread
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on September 07, 2007, 05:05:41 PM
Is Gibson not playing for the Republic?
Title: Re: Official We Exist/No You Don't thread
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 07, 2007, 05:11:45 PM
Is Gibson not playing for the Republic?

Fine leave it there so,Its just getting boring and i think it's turning into a lot more than a simple soccer debate
Title: Re: Official We Exist/No You Don't thread
Post by: Mentalman on September 07, 2007, 05:30:27 PM
Cool, but the change in title should read something better than it does no? There are plenty of us who willing admit "they" exist and have every right too, but just wanted to draw attention to a potentially hypocritical attitude.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on September 07, 2007, 05:44:02 PM
Sorry. My attempt at humour. I was trying to capture the essence of 'debate' that tends to happen. Anyway, I've renamed it.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 07, 2007, 05:45:16 PM
Sorry. My attempt at humour. I was trying to capture the essence of 'debate' that tends to happen. Anyway, I've renamed it.

Don't give up the day job :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 07, 2007, 05:45:36 PM
Sorry. My attempt at humour.

 ::) ::) ::) - only joking Mod - don't ban me
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SuperSub on September 07, 2007, 07:58:08 PM
I always wondered why do Northern Ireland wear Green as their home colours?
If their flag is red and white and Green is the supposed colour of Catholicism why to Northern Ireland wear Green?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Rossfan on September 07, 2007, 08:26:52 PM
Presumably because the IFA is the original Irish Soccer body and like their Rugby counterparts , despite being Protestant/Unionist dominated bodies when they started out(cue Tony "they still are" :D) picked green for their jerseys it being always the colour of Ireland.
Then again it might have been to upset the Orange Order  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Solomon Kane on September 07, 2007, 10:49:42 PM
Presumably because the IFA is the original Irish Soccer body and like their Rugby counterparts , despite being Protestant/Unionist dominated bodies when they started out(cue Tony "they still are" :D) picked green for their jerseys it being always the colour of Ireland.
Then again it might have been to upset the Orange Order  ::)

They actually wore blue at the start, as did the ROI team. They changed to suit the Jocks.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SuperSub on September 07, 2007, 11:04:38 PM
Presumably because the IFA is the original Irish Soccer body and like their Rugby counterparts , despite being Protestant/Unionist dominated bodies when they started out(cue Tony "they still are" :D) picked green for their jerseys it being always the colour of Ireland.
Then again it might have been to upset the Orange Order  ::)

They actually wore blue at the start, as did the ROI team. They changed to suit the Jocks.


But why Green?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on September 07, 2007, 11:21:53 PM
I always wondered why do Northern Ireland wear Green as their home colours?
If their flag is red and white and Green is the supposed colour of Catholicism why to Northern Ireland wear Green?
Let's be real about this.. the name Northern Ireland was something that - I believe - only came about - in football terms - in the 1950s - the North were always "Ireland" in the Home internationals etc while the South were Eire - 1949 Eire 2 England 0 (their first defeat against Johnny Foreigner!) - God bless the Newsletter for perpetrating this shite until today! ...There was for the North no problem with Green jerseys ,,, Celtic crosses on the jersey ... so the Troubles changed all that and now the Windsor rabble are a bit pished off with this legacy..but think about this: the red and white red hand flag is total nonsense. That flag has been obselete since 1972 when Stormomt was disbanded.Lets be real to all those loyal fans.. Linfield, Glens etc, Irish League and Irish Cup? ... crisis of identity I think .. ask Wales and Scotland if 'The Queen' would be appropriate as an anthem... ? Nah! Also Irish Whiskey from Bushmills? Dont see much Irish tolerance there, but the old Paddy Whackery sells in Japan and keeps the loyal men in jobs ... Discuss!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on September 08, 2007, 10:59:52 AM
I see the self-proclaimed best supporters in Europe - the 'famous' green and white army - kicked off in Riga last night.  7 arrests, loads of on the spot fines etc.  Seems some of the scum element allegedly driven from windsor park by the new all-embracing IFA prefer to be at their work away from home
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Solomon Kane on September 08, 2007, 11:18:03 AM
I see the self-proclaimed best supporters in Europe - the 'famous' green and white army -


Nothing self-proclaimed about them.   

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/5279132.stm
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SuperSub on September 08, 2007, 12:51:44 PM
I see the self-proclaimed best supporters in Europe - the 'famous' green and white army -


Nothing self-proclaimed about them.   

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/5279132.stm


Why wear Green though Solomon? It must sicken you that your beloved Northern Ireland wear the "Catholic" colours? And also have a Celtic cross on their crest
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 08, 2007, 01:42:22 PM
Looks like the jolly craicsters ;) were busy beating several shades of shite out of the locals and each other in Riga.

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By Jorgen Johansson

RIGA, Sept 8 (Reuters) - Security will be stepped up for Saturday's Euro 2008 qualifier between Latvia and Northern Ireland after six fans were arrested for fighting in Riga on Friday night, police said.

"Around midnight several fights broke out leading to the arrest of six people, one of them being Latvian," police spokesman Edgars Dudko told Reuters.

Police added that several fans seemed to be suffering from hangovers on Saturday and had occupied a few bars around the Skonto stadium ahead of the scheduled 1930 (local time) kickoff.



"We will intensify our efforts tonight and try to keep the worst drunks out of the stadium and hope things will be more safe," Dudko said.

Second-placed Northern Ireland trail Group F leaders Sweden by two points after seven matches. Latvia are bottom with three points.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SuperSub on September 08, 2007, 01:53:30 PM
Looks like the jolly craicsters ;) were busy beating several shades of shite out of the locals and each other in Riga.

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By Jorgen Johansson

RIGA, Sept 8 (Reuters) - Security will be stepped up for Saturday's Euro 2008 qualifier between Latvia and Northern Ireland after six fans were arrested for fighting in Riga on Friday night, police said.

"Around midnight several fights broke out leading to the arrest of six people, one of them being Latvian," police spokesman Edgars Dudko told Reuters.

Police added that several fans seemed to be suffering from hangovers on Saturday and had occupied a few bars around the Skonto stadium ahead of the scheduled 1930 (local time) kickoff.



"We will intensify our efforts tonight and try to keep the worst drunks out of the stadium and hope things will be more safe," Dudko said.

Second-placed Northern Ireland trail Group F leaders Sweden by two points after seven matches. Latvia are bottom with three points.

Best fans in the world alright :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Solomon Kane on September 08, 2007, 01:55:40 PM
I see the self-proclaimed best supporters in Europe - the 'famous' green and white army -


Nothing self-proclaimed about them.   

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/5279132.stm


Why wear Green though Solomon? It must sicken you that your beloved Northern Ireland wear the "Catholic" colours? And also have a Celtic cross on their crest

You've lost me here. I once had a green car. Was it a catholic car? How the hell can a colour have a religion? Does it "sicken" you that the ROI flag has orange in it? Is orange a protestant colour? Are goldfish protestants? Are Orange mobile phones protestant?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SuperSub on September 08, 2007, 02:02:22 PM
Ah your going way over board.. ::)
I just think it's ironic that the Northern Ireland soccer team wear Green.Especially as the type of fans that ye have thats all and everything they think they believe in..Green is the colour that is most assoisiated with Catholics....And with your shower being all British and Prody and your flag being Red and White and all that i just wondered why your soccer team wear green and have a Celtic cross on their crest
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Solomon Kane on September 08, 2007, 02:23:00 PM
And with your shower being all British and Prody and your flag being Red and White and all that i just wondered why your soccer team wear green and have a Celtic cross on their crest



That speaks volumes for you SuperSub. Do you think that maybe some of these proddy Brits think of theselves as Irish as well as British? People can be one, the other or both. After all, one component of the UK flag is St Patricks cross. A bit like being Scottish and British. Some of the older "Proddy" churches have Celtic crosses on headstones in the graveyard. As for the colour of the flag being the same as the teams strip I presume that is because the team unusually predates the state and the people involved wanted to preserve their heritage. To be honest I don't give a lot of thought to symbolism.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SuperSub on September 08, 2007, 02:27:47 PM
Still think it's ironic that some fans of Northern Ireland who are also die hard Rangers fans have no problem wearing a green jersey and a celtic cross across their chest..I find it quite funny actually  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Solomon Kane on September 08, 2007, 02:51:45 PM
Still think it's ironic that some fans of Northern Ireland who are also die hard Rangers fans have no problem wearing a green jersey and a celtic cross across their chest..I find it quite funny actually  :D :D :D

A fair point. I actually find it funny that anyone supports Rangers. They're shite.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: armaghniac on September 08, 2007, 02:53:51 PM
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A bit like being Scottish and British

Not really, Scotland is actually part of Britain, so being Scottish and British is like being from Tyrone and Ulster. Northern Ireland is not part of Britain so it more a case of being both a Mayoman and an Ulsterman. The latter is not ridiculous but is unusual unless your parents came from Ulster, it would be a bit strange if your only connection with Ulster was that you were shipped to Mayo in Cromwellian times.

That said Supersub is talking nonsense, green is the colour associated with Ireland and it is very appropriate that the Irish Football Association use it.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Solomon Kane on September 08, 2007, 03:13:20 PM
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A bit like being Scottish and British

Not really, Scotland is actually part of Britain, so being Scottish and British is like being from Tyrone and Ulster. Northern Ireland is not part of Britain so it more a case of being both a Mayoman and an Ulsterman. The latter is not ridiculous but is unusual unless your parents came from Ulster, it would be a bit strange if your only connection with Ulster was that you were shipped to Mayo in Cromwellian times.

That said Supersub is talking nonsense, green is the colour associated with Ireland and it is very appropriate that the Irish Football Association use it.


A fair point, but UKish doesn't quite have the same ring to it. It could be argued that Ireland is one of the British Isles, but I can see how many would find that unnaceptable. I think it is safe to say that Irishness and Britishness are much broader concepts than many people are comfortable with. 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SuperSub on September 08, 2007, 03:41:04 PM
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That said Supersub is talking nonsense, green is the colour associated with Ireland and it is very appropriate that the Irish Football Association use it. 
 
 


How so compadre? I only asked a question why.. i didn't making any comments that they shouldn't be wearing green it was mearly a question
Still think its ironic though ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on September 08, 2007, 04:28:28 PM
Still think its ironic though ;D
Why is it ironic for the IRISH Football Association to play in green? What other colour would we play in?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on September 08, 2007, 04:29:58 PM
Orange. ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on September 08, 2007, 04:36:22 PM
Orange. ::)

Pathetic  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on September 08, 2007, 04:37:24 PM
Joke  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on September 08, 2007, 05:35:16 PM
20 more arrests today ... yep, they're doing 'our wee statelet' proud in the Baltics
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 08, 2007, 05:46:06 PM
Still think its ironic though ;D
Why is it ironic for the IRISH Football Association to play in green? What other colour would we play in?


Orange. ::)



And sponsored by Jaffa Cakes  ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 08, 2007, 07:25:19 PM
Latvia 1 - 0 N.Irelans   Ooooppppppppssssssss
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Solomon Kane on September 08, 2007, 07:49:30 PM
Fucked up indeed. Fair play to Latvia. They did what was asked of them.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Balboa on September 08, 2007, 08:05:05 PM
I think Gerry Armstrong should have got some sort of award for most biased commentary in living memory, what a f**king numpty.....
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on September 08, 2007, 08:40:12 PM
Chris Baird own goal.
That's them f**king fenians for ya. The shower of bast**ds!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on September 09, 2007, 11:28:49 AM
ahite game, we where all over the place.

Why the f**k did elliott start in place of brunt, thats just stupid
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Bensars on September 09, 2007, 11:39:10 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

what was the final arrest count ?     The best supporters alright !! ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on September 10, 2007, 02:58:39 AM
Sorry to hear some of the fans went buck mad, there is no call for that aul craic now.

I would say that the dream is over for the norths fans. Shame.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Deal_Me_In on September 10, 2007, 06:57:13 AM
What would the NI supporters consider their chances of qualifying be after saturdays result? With away games against both Sweden and Spain and also Denmark to play, they probably have the hardest run in of the 3 team with chances of qualifying
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on September 10, 2007, 08:16:26 AM
I would say that the chances of qualification are very slim, but I thought that before the latvia game.
Really we are relying on spain to slip up again, and sweden to beat the others.

I still hope we can do it, but im not confident.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on September 10, 2007, 08:32:04 AM
As for the arrests there was 2 things at play here.

1 was a scum element amongst our support, a lot of guys I know where saying there was definately a larger number of dicks than usual at this game. Dont know what it is - band wagon jumpers/cheap flights/cheap drink.

The other was the cops lifting boys, taking them round the corner and releasing them for a fine. Warned about this before, and pretty common in Riga with tourist apparently, and soem other places in eastern europe/russia.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Bensars on September 10, 2007, 01:25:09 PM
As for the arrests there was 2 things at play here.

1 was a scum element amongst our support, a lot of guys I know where saying there was definately a larger number of dicks than usual at this game. Dont know what it is - band wagon jumpers/cheap flights/cheap drink.

The other was the cops lifting boys, taking them round the corner and releasing them for a fine. Warned about this before, and pretty common in Riga with tourist apparently, and soem other places in eastern europe/russia.

If youre insinuating that the local police were arresting NI supporters to pocket the fine, then letting them go, it would not be on the offical figures therefore putting the actual arrests at a much higher level !

I suspect that Mr Fearon will be honing his letter writing skills as we speak
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on September 10, 2007, 01:29:17 PM
I suspect that Mr Fearon will be honing his letter writing skills as we speak

I was wondering why he hasn't been on today!  :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on September 10, 2007, 02:32:20 PM
Bensars, i was saying that both these events occured.
I said that there where some scumbags about, and these guys got lifted for fighting etc.
Some people did get arrested for "minor" things like public pissing etc also, but from what i am hearing a few boys seemed happy to start something which is pathetic.

The fine thing is something that happened also, and yes it wont be recorded, though it is being discussed. Nothing surprising - happens in a lot of places as i said.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on September 10, 2007, 02:41:40 PM
Was sorry to see N.Ireland lost the other night..Pity that they lost two of their easier games in the group ie Iceland and Latvia because they would have a great chance of qualifying otherwise.Alas i think it will prove to much for them now.


Hard to know if we hadnt lost the iceland game so badly how things would have gone - it may have given them the kick up the backside they needed

hopefully this result can be a similar kick up the ass.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ExiledGael on September 10, 2007, 04:22:46 PM
Doubt that NI will emerge from the group now, but nonetheless it was a difficult ask from the start and they can certainly take a lot from the campaign. They really seem to struggle when the onus is on them to take the game to teams. it suits them to sit and absorb then hit teams on the break and defend what they have. Dominating the opposition seems to be a real problem, especially when it's a middle ranked team who'm they ought to be beating
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on September 10, 2007, 04:24:01 PM
The NI team seem to have more pride in their shirt than the RoI team do at present.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 10, 2007, 04:31:01 PM
The NI team seem to have more pride in their shirt than the RoI team do at present.

I agree..Especially the likes of John O'Shea who seems to put in more of an effort for his club than he does for his country
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on September 10, 2007, 05:57:45 PM
The NI team seem to have more pride in their shirt than the RoI team do at present.
It all pales in comparison to the pride that the  Monaghan team have for their shirt :)

I hear that Healy is out or at least a serious doubt for Wed evening according to Skysports
latest flash just in type of news item.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on September 10, 2007, 08:25:34 PM
Healy, Gillespie and Evans all sat out training but are all expected to be fit last i heard.
I certainly hope so, but better service is essential if healy is actually going to do anything while on the pitch.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on September 10, 2007, 10:16:49 PM
northern Ireland and the Republic are two mediocre sides. The only chance they have of regularly qualifying for the major tournaments is merging the two teams together. The sooner this is done the better for (almost) all concerned.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: the milkman on September 10, 2007, 10:20:12 PM
Your not wrong friend!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on September 11, 2007, 12:46:31 AM
Looked pretty wet on Sky Sports for NI at their training session.
Weather forecast for Wednesday is cold, windy and with heavy rain -  turning to sleet -  ouch.
Eidur Gudjonsson is back but hasn´t played in a while. I´d assume he was targeted for the NI game and wasn´t risked against Spain. There is another Gudjonsson, Joey, who is pretty good. Hreidarsson is the Kevin Moran type rock in the defence even if he is the LB.
NI better try and make hay down the other flank. Hreidarsson sets up the counter attacks, if Gillespie can´t tackle, yer fecked.
I saw some time ago that Iceland were not even favourites with the bookies.
If NI get a draw they will be doing well.


Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Chrisowc on September 11, 2007, 09:31:46 AM
Was able to watch the Iceland v Spain match in Riga.  The rain was sideways across the pitch.  As Mark Sidebottom said I'd better pack the wooly hat and the wallet.  (£8 per pint & £15 for fish and chips!!)

From a football perspective Iceland rode their luck on saturday against 10 men.  Northern Ireland will need to be more direct in their play tomorrow than they were on saturday.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on September 11, 2007, 10:34:00 AM
Not quite a "rode their luck" scenario. 
Spain couldn´t convert possesion to chances, Iceland had 3 or 4 clear cut chances to win the game. Spain were relieved at the end to gain a point.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Evil Genius on September 11, 2007, 12:12:38 PM
northern Ireland and the Republic are two mediocre sides. The only chance they have of regularly qualifying for the major tournaments is merging the two teams together. The sooner this is done the better for (almost) all concerned.

What, like the Germany team's all-conquering invulnerability since the FRG and GDR were combined?  ;)

The Ireland rugby team automatically "qualifies" every year for the Six Nations, at least two or three of whom are usually worse than mediocre, and how often do they win it?

They also inevitably qualify for the Rugby World Cup [so called], a tournament where they are one of just eight or nine teams (max) who could realistically ever have any hope of winning, and they invariably choke around the Quarter Final Stage.  :o

Save combined teams for Combined Rules matches - though even there Ireland risks getting tanned by the Aussies, more often than not... ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on September 11, 2007, 12:33:36 PM
Trust you Evil Genius to pick up the wind up baton and run with it.
FFS, cop on and ignore it
Have you no football talk?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Solomon Kane on September 11, 2007, 06:55:11 PM
Not before time. It was rumored that our ex-colonial governer Peter Hain stalled such legislation as he had a bit of previous form himself, during Springboks matches as an anti-apartheid protester. 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 12, 2007, 07:23:14 PM
Iceland 1 - 0 N.Ireland   ooooooppppppppppsssssssss
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on September 12, 2007, 09:10:52 PM
If only they knew that you can't kick the ball in any feckin net.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Square Ball on September 12, 2007, 09:38:49 PM
so is that the Euro 2008 dream over?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ExiledGael on September 12, 2007, 10:12:20 PM
Don't be on here letting on you're upset lads!
We're all shit, North and South
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on September 12, 2007, 10:14:18 PM
I think tonights proof (if it was ever needed) that the two teams should merge.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on September 12, 2007, 10:16:37 PM
Shite + Shite still = Shite.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Solomon Kane on September 12, 2007, 10:30:11 PM
I think tonights proof (if it was ever needed) that the two teams should merge.

Aye right. Perhaps France and Spain should merge as well because they have had disappointing campaigns.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Real Laoislad on September 12, 2007, 10:33:25 PM
I think tonights proof (if it was ever needed) that the two teams should merge.


Aye right. Perhaps France and Spain should merge as well because they have had disappointing campaigns.


France are only two points of first spot and if Spain win tonight they go top....Hardly a disapointing campaign so far

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on September 12, 2007, 10:35:56 PM
France and Spain are 2 teams that constantly qualify for the major tournaments, and both are likely to qualify again. I dont see how this compares to two neighbouring teams both called ireland who havnt qualified for the finals of the European elite competition in the last 20 years. Without doubt a united team would have graced the European championships in this time with the talent we have on this island.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on September 12, 2007, 11:10:17 PM
France and Spain are 2 teams that constantly qualify for the major tournaments, and both are likely to qualify again. I dont see how this compares to two neighbouring teams both called ireland who havnt qualified for the finals of the European elite competition in the last 20 years. Without doubt a united team would have graced the European championships in this time with the talent we have on this island.
And a United European team would win the world cup every time it was played. It would still be a bollix idea.

Getting back to the match. Shocking performance by Worthlesston, totally inept, mucking about with the defence, playing people out of position and then bringing on two midfielders when we need to chase the game. I hope he has the decency to resign but if not he should be sacked.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on September 12, 2007, 11:12:46 PM
We're having the same problem's SammyG.

I guess it's a fight to the bitter end, as to who gets Martin O'Neill ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Solomon Kane on September 12, 2007, 11:22:59 PM
We're having the same problem's SammyG.

I guess it's a fight to the bitter end, as to who gets Martin O'Neill ;)

I don't think either association could afford to pay him, nor do I think he would have any notion of leaving club football for what is in effect a part time job.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on September 12, 2007, 11:25:26 PM
I know Solomon. Was just having a little giggle. If we don't giggle, we'll cry tonight.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Donagh on September 13, 2007, 09:11:46 AM
France and Spain are 2 teams that constantly qualify for the major tournaments, and both are likely to qualify again. I dont see how this compares to two neighbouring teams both called ireland who havnt qualified for the finals of the European elite competition in the last 20 years. Without doubt a united team would have graced the European championships in this time with the talent we have on this island.

It’s not necessarily a single team that's needed but a single competent Association to cover the whole country with a professional league.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 13, 2007, 09:56:47 AM
If we merged Staunton and Worthington would we have a manager who had a clue?? 

The debate about one team or two is largely irrelevant at the minute.  You have to look at the players and the coach.  Apart from Healy, Dunne, and possibly Given neither side has any great performers.  Both sets of players have great committment and heart (apart from O'Shea :-\) but the quality just isn't there.  I mean, in my day (ahem) McGeady wouldn't have got a game for Cliftonville Olympic never mind an international place.  Both managers are out of their depth and both associations are run by small minded, what-we-have-we-hold, rinky dinks (to quote the immortal Dunphy).  A recipe for mediocrity. :-[
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Istabraq on September 13, 2007, 11:08:50 AM
If we can have an All Ireland team in Rugby, why can't we have one in soccer? f**k sake, the two are completely shite without the remotest chance of success ever
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Star Spangler on September 13, 2007, 11:26:55 AM
If we can have an All Ireland team in Rugby, why can't we have one in soccer? f**k sake, the two are completely shite without the remotest chance of success ever

Too many ego's and too many people interested in petty point scoring for that to happen any time soon unfortunately.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Maximus Marillius on September 13, 2007, 11:34:02 AM
The fact that we have two teams on this island which is smaller than the entire state of Texan, illustrates the mind set that has held this country to ranson for so long with bigotry. The only reason why the two teams exist
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: longball on September 13, 2007, 11:44:47 AM
There will be an All Ireland team in the not too distant future. Maybe Martin O`Neill will manage them  ;)
The present teams are quite crap though, but lets be honest, neither of them qualify for the big tournaments that often so we should be used to it.

dont think a united team is the way to go i mean what difference would it be not too many of the NI players wud be seriously pushing! team with current players IMO
(4-3-3)
Given, Finnan, Dunne, Hughes, Oshea, Davis, S Reid, Hunt, Keane, Healy, Duff
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: wesaysanchez on September 13, 2007, 11:51:07 AM
i tolde you so. when the fa got rido ff lawrie thy may as well have sent a bullet through the head of the northern ireland footall tam. noegl worhthlinglton was was nay ofoog. imagine appointing the man who relegated edelias dnorwich? thats a joke. they shamed us by nt foing anythinf to stop lawrei from managing forest. as a result forest willnoew problaly bevome one of the biggesdt poweers in english football. ive been over to crvane cottgae and its busssing . healy if anyone should be player managaer but anyone knows that stupid. Who else - id ecven go for jim magilton at least hel''ll bur fire in the bellies of our heroes.

we can still qualify if we go ovber to sweden and win we can do it. i feel really sicjk when i think of nigel and him sitting threer destroying all th good work lawire did. it rereaallly hurts. well done england asnd alexes scotlad. and well on czecholsoakia.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Yer Ma on September 13, 2007, 11:58:55 AM
i tolde you so. when the fa got rido ff lawrie thy may as well have sent a bullet through the head of the northern ireland footall tam. noegl worhthlinglton was was nay ofoog. imagine appointing the man who relegated edelias dnorwich? thats a joke. they shamed us by nt foing anythinf to stop lawrei from managing forest. as a result forest willnoew problaly bevome one of the biggesdt poweers in english football. ive been over to crvane cottgae and its busssing . healy if anyone should be player managaer but anyone knows that stupid. Who else - id ecven go for jim magilton at least hel''ll bur fire in the bellies of our heroes.

we can still qualify if we go ovber to sweden and win we can do it. i feel really sicjk when i think of nigel and him sitting threer destroying all th good work lawire did. it rereaallly hurts. well done england asnd alexes scotlad. and well on czecholsoakia.

And kids, there's the damage that drug abuse can do, perfectly illustrated.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: longball on September 13, 2007, 12:04:51 PM
i tolde you so. when the fa got rido ff lawrie thy may as well have sent a bullet through the head of the northern ireland footall tam. noegl worhthlinglton was was nay ofoog. imagine appointing the man who relegated edelias dnorwich? thats a joke. they shamed us by nt foing anythinf to stop lawrei from managing forest. as a result forest willnoew problaly bevome one of the biggesdt poweers in english football. ive been over to crvane cottgae and its busssing . healy if anyone should be player managaer but anyone knows that stupid. Who else - id ecven go for jim magilton at least hel''ll bur fire in the bellies of our heroes.

we can still qualify if we go ovber to sweden and win we can do it. i feel really sicjk when i think of nigel and him sitting threer destroying all th good work lawire did. it rereaallly hurts. well done england asnd alexes scotlad. and well on czecholsoakia.

And kids, there's the damage that drug abuse can do, perfectly illustrated.

 :-[
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: wesaysanchez on September 13, 2007, 12:07:22 PM
please dont be miocking me. i have beenn dooing a typring class and he siad that im good enough to vtype and not look at the cscerreen, he swia dthere'l be a few eroors at ther stert but to bpersisit. i think you can get the jist of my thoughts so beaer with me . it;kll get better,
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: longball on September 13, 2007, 12:08:32 PM
i dunno about ruining Lawries good work wesay. if u ask me it looks like lawrie bottled out he took NI as far as he could having them play above their level he knew the only way was down so he hit the road!!



Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: wesaysanchez on September 13, 2007, 12:10:56 PM
i dunno about ruining Lawries good work wesay. if u ask me it looks like lawrie bottled out he took NI as far as he could having them play above their level he knew the only way was down so he hit the road!!


I have to disagree. there awas problems long befgoer hi left. do you remember the supposed argument etc and he wouldnt talk about it. I think he hasd relationship difficulirties withthe boss and maybe boyce.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: longball on September 13, 2007, 12:13:57 PM
cant believe ive managed to post a united team on this with just 3 NI players and havent got slagged yet!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on September 13, 2007, 12:41:35 PM
Leave wesay alone, that's Ulster Scot.... I think.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Donagh on September 13, 2007, 01:20:14 PM
So who was punching the head of who?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Donagh on September 13, 2007, 01:31:28 PM
Someone on OWC is saying it was Gillespie and McCartney. Didn’t Gerry Taggart dig that kn**ker Gillespie before as well?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: wesaysanchez on September 13, 2007, 01:36:08 PM
There was no punching heads at tll. froim what i hear and im not very willing to talk about ut here but apparnen tly is awas a suimpke case of money and being able to job sghare. I think the ifsa were bvery much agin it.

if i cam add another bit to thios. there is now a time to move on and with the game cooming up in spainwell wsee the old rerums of gerry armstrongs unbreliebvevernble hooggoasl in spain in 19982. now as much as i cadiopre that tema na love their mamories I think it is time to move on. so many of that sice have had the chance to manasged the team with mcikkroy, worthington, armstrong etc taking the charge - go for an otside mnan. it woarked with lawire. maY BE WE CANN ATTRACT COMEONE LIKE THE RUSSIAN MANAGER GUSS HINNIFDDICK. or evn tery venerab;es. the time has come for our head men to look outside. look at what he done woth south korea and holland. llok at fersgiuon and wenger and belniesz. theyt never played for utd, arsenal and liverpool respcthgfully. it s time to look bnig. we have the players we need the boss.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Balboa on September 13, 2007, 01:39:51 PM
Someone on OWC is saying it was Gillespie and McCartney. Didn’t Gerry Taggart dig that kn**ker Gillespie before as well?

Jim Magilton "allegedley" gave him a slap before, supposed to be a hateful wee c*nt.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: full back on September 13, 2007, 01:42:33 PM
Bit harsh on Gillespie lads.
I know him & I can say he is nothing like what some are making him out to be. May not be everyone's cup of tea, but who is?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Will Hunting on September 13, 2007, 01:49:12 PM
According to the Sky Sports News reporter who was apparently on the plane and saw the incident, McCartney and Gillespie were doing the fighting with punches thrown by Gillespie (surprise surprise!). Davis and Helay tried to break it up, think Healy may have caught a slap for his troubles, and Feeney got in to break it up as well.

God knows what it was about. Maybe Gillespie was still feeling a bit angry after his "winning goal", and wasn't McCartney out of the squad for the past couple of years?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Donagh on September 13, 2007, 01:51:41 PM
Bit harsh on Gillespie lads.
I know him & I can say he is nothing like what some are making him out to be. May not be everyone's cup of tea, but who is?

Well I'll not repeat the version of the story I heard of him receiving the slap by the pool table while away with NI, but if it’s true and was me, I’d have broke the cnuts legs.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: wesaysanchez on September 13, 2007, 01:58:13 PM
there is no doubt that keith gillsepsie attracts the wrong sort of heasdlines, when shearer clocked him in dubkin when with nercastle it didn't surpirses anyone who knos him. keith is a demoin when he has been intocxified. hes into gamblin as welkl and is a bit of a rougue. alex ferguson got rif of him for that readon as he did with norman whiteside, lee sharpe, paul mcgrath etc.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: girt_giggler on September 13, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
learn to type/spell properly
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 13, 2007, 02:27:52 PM
Maybe too much of that famed team "spirit" in the NI squad??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/6993117.stm

Northern Ireland stars Keith Gillespie and George McCartney were involved in a fight on an airplane before it flew the team from Iceland to London.
The altercation came after a verbal exchange and punches were thrown before other players were forced to intervene.

Cabin crew staff reported the incident to N Ireland manager Nigel Worthington before the flight took off.

The IFA said it will take appropiate action following the incident which came hours after a Euro 2008 qualifier.

Northern Ireland's hopes of making the Euro 2008 finals are fading after Keith Gillespie's late own goal gave Iceland a 2-1 victory in Reykjavik.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Star Spangler on September 13, 2007, 03:44:40 PM
Could you imagine the media frenzy if the likes of this happened with two GAA footballers?  :o
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Balboa on September 13, 2007, 03:46:58 PM
The fans last week, the players this week, where will it all end? Tut Tut.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: A Quinn Martin Production on September 13, 2007, 03:47:36 PM
Could you imagine the media frenzy if the likes of this happened with two GAA footballers?  :o

If it was two pissed up holiday makers on their way back from Benidorm they'd be in clink ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: oneillcup2007 on September 13, 2007, 03:47:58 PM
What have David Healy and Easyjet got in common.
They both carry rough passengers
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on September 13, 2007, 03:49:46 PM
Not the first time - I recall 19.05.1979 - my first game at Windsor Park - NI v England Home International - big hype NI had not beaten England at home since 1927. Anyway, about 10 minutes in doesn't Terry Cochrane pass the ball to Peter Barnes - missing Armstrong - and aul Gerry boots Cochrane up the Nat King Cole in front of 40,000. Talk about a collective gasp in the crowd. Luckily Cochrane let it go.. or else his melt would have been knocked in.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on September 13, 2007, 03:53:51 PM
o'neill sems to have got his aliases a wee bit mixed up, shane you have to remember that it is not weesaysanchez who fecks up his spelling, it is one of your armagh aliases tha does that.


The six were brutal last night and in fairness deserved to lose, I believe they now play three of the top four teams in their remaining matches, they are clean fecked. They will be lucky to get two points from the remaining games. Nigel Worthington  is a pish poor manager, his selections are strange and his team is in a nose dive.


Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: oneillcup2007 on September 13, 2007, 03:54:30 PM
I wonder did Gilespie knock out another tooth of Georges.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on September 13, 2007, 04:21:07 PM
I hope McCartney knocked a few teeth out of Gillespie.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on September 13, 2007, 04:30:00 PM
Interesting report in the Belfast telegraph informing us that Lord (the twat) Laird is writing to the secretary of the Ulster Rugby branch. He is looking answers to a series of questions regarding the absence of british national anthem when the Ireland rugby team played in Belfast.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/article2950710.ece (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/article2950710.ece)

He wants equality. He wants recognition of the two traditions. I suppose he wouldn’t want to CC the letter to the IFA? Of course not. ****.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on September 13, 2007, 05:33:15 PM
We just got a new dog and he is a rescued animal from a shelter. I didnt know what I was going to call him until I woke up this morning and saw that gillespie had gubbed a team mate after he had cost the north a draw. Since the 6 are a shambles ever since worthington took over what with the in fighting, poor form and sc**bag fans getting arrested I thought it fitting that the new dog be called Nigel. Every time I look at the ugly wee pug b**tard I will think of the norths manager and thank God that our wee pug hasnt a care in the world. it's a dogs life! ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: From the Bunker on September 13, 2007, 06:55:58 PM
Could you imagine the media frenzy if the likes of this happened with two GAA footballers?  :o


Memories are short! Did Graham Geraghty not box the head of a fellow team mate?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Puckoon on September 13, 2007, 10:27:25 PM
Could you imagine the media frenzy if the likes of this happened with two GAA footballers?  :o


Memories are short! Did Graham Geraghty not box the head of a fellow team mate?

Yes, and there was quite a media frenzy!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on September 14, 2007, 08:42:11 AM
Interesting report in the Belfast telegraph informing us that Lord (the twat) Laird is writing to the secretary of the Ulster Rugby branch. He is looking answers to a series of questions regarding the absence of british national anthem when the Ireland rugby team played in Belfast.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/article2950710.ece (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/article2950710.ece)

He wants equality. He wants recognition of the two traditions. I suppose he wouldn’t want to CC the letter to the IFA? Of course not. ****.


Ignoring the fact that LL is a bit of a knob, what doe his letter about rugby have to do with the IFA? The IFA don't have anything to do with rugby.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Evil Genius on September 14, 2007, 12:33:10 PM
cant believe ive managed to post a united team on this with just 3 NI players and havent got slagged yet!  ;D ;D

Perhaps we're just not into "Fantasy Football"... ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Evil Genius on September 14, 2007, 12:46:43 PM
If we can have an All Ireland team in Rugby, why can't we have one in soccer? f**k sake, the two are completely shite without the remotest chance of success ever

And how much success has the Ireland rugby team had down the years? On the European stage, they automatically qualify for the Six Nations, yet rarely win it. Not have they completed a Grand Slam in decades (1940-something?).

As for the World Cup (so-called), half the sides who "qualify" are an utter joke - Georgia? Portugal? Namibia?. Rugby Union is the "National Sport" in precisely one country in the entire world, NZ, which has a population of under four million. And in a sport where shock upsets are much rarer than in, say, soccer, there are only 7 or 8 teams (max) with a realistic chance of ever winning the tournament. Yet with Ireland virtually guaranteed qualification, they've still never looked like winning it in the past. Nor will they this time, despite having arguably their best set of players in living memory.

In the end, if even a remote "chance of success" was the criteria for attracting my allegiance, I wouldn't support the Ireland rugby team, the NI soccer team, or an all-Ireland soccer team...
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stibhan on September 14, 2007, 12:56:25 PM
Bottom Line: Sanchez was a great manager and a respectable figure for Northern Ireland and probably would have taken care of the two teams Latvia and Iceland relatively easily (even though the 0-3 turnover at home was pretty dire). He knew his team well and knew how to squeeze every ounce of success out of them, and probably would have at least finished 3rd (Spain and Sweden's class would have shone through imo).

An All-Ireland soccer team would clearly benefit everyone involved on the pitch but would lead to some sort of a UVF uprising or something if it ever came to fruition. That is an unfortunate reality on this island and even though I would love to see it as an Irish nationalist and republican I am happy for players like Gibson to choose their team rather than be forced to play for a country whose fans (whether that be a small minority or not) have proven to be anti-catholic/nationalist on a number of occassions. Frankly, the Neil Lennon affair and the "Greysteel" chants of yore proved that it is a massive risk for any Catholic to pull on the green shirt, and that the only way they would be able to play for British-Occupied Ireland would be by keeping their mouth shut and their head down.

Whatever anyone said about the rugby team and their lack of success is bollocks- look at the size of Ireland and compare it to the rest of the countries they are knocking shoulders with at the top. Ireland are giving it a real go with countries who have 9 or 10 times more people than us. We also have some of the most skillful players in the world and that team is one that I am utterly, utterly proud to support even though my allegiances have always been GAA for the most part and soccer for a good deal as well.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stibhan on September 14, 2007, 01:01:34 PM


In the end, if even a remote "chance of success" was the criteria for attracting my allegiance, I wouldn't support the Ireland rugby team, the NI soccer team, or an all-Ireland soccer team...
You're utterly right, who would support a team on the basis of whether they were succesful or not? Personally, I used to go for Northern Ireland slightly because they were my fellow Irishmen and I bore no ill-feeling towards them. Then Neil Lennon got hung out to dry and I was sectarianly abused by a group of your fans.

Funny that some people's criteria seems to be "tradition" and "nationality" at the expense of respect for other people's basic human rights. Mine is mainly dependent on respect for other creeds and a general standard of behaviour that entails a lack of glorifying loyalist terrorists or indeed, no evidence of enjoying threatening captains of a different religious stance than you. I wonder what yours is?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on September 14, 2007, 01:03:45 PM
The Denmark Spain game will be the one to determine who qualifies in second place, probably will be the game of the group Looks like the odds are on Spain and Sweden to go through.

Ni had their chance against a weakened Iceland team. I don´t know about the subs that Nigel brought on, they all look the same type of player to me, small, run around a lot and give the ball away. After NI equalised, Iceland fought back and gained enough control to neutralise any threat of losing the game. And the earlier entry of (an unfit) Eidur Gudjonsson dropping in that famous hole added a bit of class to the Iceland midfield, I presume thats what Nigel had his thoughts on.
My prediction on the outcome of this game was razor sharp, that NI would be doing well to get a draw. In the last 15 minutes of the game Iceland were the more determined team, they wanted the victory more.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 14, 2007, 01:17:29 PM
Quote
And in a sport where shock upsets are much rarer than in, say, soccer,


Only because it it far easier in football for crap teams to drag good teams down to their level. Stick everyone behind the ball, defend for your lives, bit of luck at the other end and a crap team can beat a good one 1-0. You can't do that in rugby. 

Quote
there are only 7 or 8 teams (max) with a realistic chance of ever winning the tournament.

Is it any different in football? The same teams usually end up winning these tournaments.

Anyway this is all off topic.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Turlough O Carolan on September 14, 2007, 02:06:28 PM
Jaysus those boys quickly went from 'football for all' to punches for all.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on September 14, 2007, 02:09:33 PM
Any chance a mod could remove the sh1te posted by stibhan? Thanks
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: wesaysanchez on September 14, 2007, 02:17:59 PM
Bottom Line: Sanchez was a great manager and a respectable figure for Northern Ireland and probably would have taken care of the two teams Latvia and Iceland relatively easily (even though the 0-3 turnover at home was pretty dire). He knew his team well and knew how to squeeze every ounce of success out of them, and probably would have at least finished 3rd (Spain and Sweden's class would have shone through imo).


couldmnt yhav e sif it betyter myself/
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: wesaysanchez on September 14, 2007, 02:37:05 PM
Bottom Line: Sanchez was a great manager and a respectable figure for Northern Ireland and probably would have taken care of the two teams Latvia and Iceland relatively easily (even though the 0-3 turnover at home was pretty dire). He knew his team well and knew how to squeeze every ounce of success out of them, and probably would have at least finished 3rd (Spain and Sweden's class would have shone through imo).


couldmnt yhav e sif it betyter myself/
he did it agains so phe did. i do'nt no how he new my new password for i only chnage it this mroning. wesaysanchez why do'nt u juts stop pertenduing to  be me its not funny anyomer.

www.loveuslter.com 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 17, 2007, 09:54:56 AM
Someone on OWC is saying it was Gillespie and McCartney. Didn’t Gerry Taggart dig that kn**ker Gillespie before as well?

Two things concern me about your post Donagh.

Firstly, the use of the word kn**ker is as racist and inappropriate here as it is on other 'sporting' sites.  I for one don't want the gaaboard to down the road of sites like owc where similar terms are routinely used by posters and either tolerated, condoned or used by the moderators.  We are much better that that.

Secondly, I believe that the average member of the travelling community is a much classier individual than the one to whom you refer and as such your post is grossly unfair to travellers in general.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on September 17, 2007, 11:50:28 AM
Any chance a mod could remove the sh1te posted by stibhan? Thanks

Oh stop whingeing for f**k sake.
You never suggest that when Gweltyah spouts worse.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on September 17, 2007, 11:55:20 AM
Any chance a mod could remove the sh1te posted by stibhan? Thanks

Oh stop whingeing for f**k sake.

Aye you're right I should just accept being called a UVF supporter.

You never suggest that when Gweltyah spouts worse.  ::)
I have pulled getawaytafcuk up loads of times.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on September 17, 2007, 12:46:49 PM
I have pulled getawaytafcuk loads of times.

 :o
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on September 17, 2007, 12:48:20 PM
I have pulled getawaytafcuk loads of times.

 :o

I think you're confusing me with O'Neill.  ;)
Title: OWC down
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on September 19, 2007, 11:17:06 AM
Is OWC gone members-only.  I can't get my regular update of righteous indignation anymore. ;D ;D

/Jim.
Title: Re: OWC down
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 19, 2007, 02:10:36 PM
Is OWC gone members-only.  I can't get my regular update of righteous indignation anymore. ;D ;D

/Jim.

You are a bollix.  It's ages since I went near there of my own initiative, but everytime you post here you mention it and the curiosity gets the better of me.

Was disgusted by Mac's Nazi reference, but it has given me a penalty kick for subsequent debates.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on September 19, 2007, 02:23:59 PM
N Ireland fall in Fifa rankings 
 
Northern Ireland lost 2-1 to Iceland in Reykjavik
Northern Ireland have fallen nine places to 36th in the Fifa rankings following defeats in their last two Euro 2008 qualifiers.
Nigel Worthington's side suffered serious setbacks in the Group F campaign by losing lost 1-0 to Latvia and 2-1 to Iceland.

The Republic of Ireland are now ranked 32nd, five places better than their standing in August.

They drew with Slovakia and lost to the Czech Republic in their last two games.
 
Title: Re: OWC down
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on September 19, 2007, 02:58:29 PM

You are a bollix.  It's ages since I went near there of my own initiative, but everytime you post here you mention it and the curiosity gets the better of me.

Was disgusted by Mac's Nazi reference, but it has given me a penalty kick for subsequent debates.

Apologies for sending you to the Dark Gates of Mordor but pray tell could you get in?

I'm getting some screen asking me to log in.

/Jim.
Title: Re: OWC down
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 19, 2007, 03:03:27 PM

You are a bollix.  It's ages since I went near there of my own initiative, but everytime you post here you mention it and the curiosity gets the better of me.

Was disgusted by Mac's Nazi reference, but it has given me a penalty kick for subsequent debates.

Apologies for sending you to the Dark Gates of Mordor but pray tell could you get in?

I'm getting some screen asking me to log in.

/Jim.

No, couldn't get it.  Same message as you and I don't have an account that you could have used.  Still, at least you'll be in better form at the end of the day!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on September 19, 2007, 03:17:34 PM
Northern Ireland have fallen nine places to 36th in the Fifa rankings following defeats in their last two Euro 2008 qualifiers.
Nigel Worthington's side suffered serious setbacks in the Group F campaign by losing lost 1-0 to Latvia and 2-1 to Iceland.

The Republic of Ireland are now ranked 32nd, five places better than their standing in August.


the rankings are now officially worthless again, after a period of being vitally important!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on September 19, 2007, 03:19:02 PM
Who was the other player to get fined then by the IFA if it wasnt McCartney?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on September 19, 2007, 03:23:11 PM
a few reckon evans, was out on the lash with gillespie, so maybe him.

Hope he doesnt look up to gillespie for a role model!!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on September 19, 2007, 03:50:30 PM
the rankings are now officially worthless again, after a period of being vitally important!

 :D :D :D

Thats the spirit!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on September 19, 2007, 10:39:39 PM
a few reckon evans, was out on the lash with gillespie, so maybe him.

Hope he doesnt look up to gillespie for a role model!!!

Yep, that was him.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7002279.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7002279.stm)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on September 20, 2007, 01:23:11 AM
What´s the problem with going on a bit of a lash after a game?
The real crime was the defence going all Bebo like, before the end of that game.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Gnevin on October 12, 2007, 02:29:04 PM
Interesting how dead this thread has been since Tony went off in a huff   :)
Title: Re: OWC down
Post by: deiseach on October 12, 2007, 02:56:24 PM
Apologies for sending you to the Dark Gates of Mordor but pray tell could you get in?

I'm getting some screen asking me to log in.

/Jim.

visitors can't see pics , please register or login


It's the Black Gate, and, like in the eponymous chapter, it's closed. My account has been suspended until "Feb 6 2010, 10:42 AM". I presume this is because I didn't pay the Patron's thirty pieces of silver, which is fair enough.
Title: Re: OWC down
Post by: Gnevin on October 12, 2007, 02:58:32 PM
Apologies for sending you to the Dark Gates of Mordor but pray tell could you get in?

I'm getting some screen asking me to log in.

/Jim.

visitors can't see pics , please register or login


It's the Black Gate, and, like in the eponymous chapter, it's closed. My account has been suspended until "Feb 6 2010, 10:42 AM". I presume this is because I didn't pay the Patron's thirty pieces of silver, which is fair enough.
But at least you have something to look forward too now!  ;D
Title: Re: OWC down
Post by: deiseach on October 12, 2007, 03:00:03 PM
But at least you have something to look forward too now!  ;D

It's the only thing that saved me from slashing my wrists after the Limerick game
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AZOffaly on October 12, 2007, 03:04:24 PM
I can still get in. Deiseach you must have done something to them :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Bensars on October 12, 2007, 03:09:26 PM
Interesting how dead this thread has been since Tony went off in a huff   :)

What happened there ?

 I was wondering why he wasnt around. Just thought the wife had out him under the thumb again ?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on October 12, 2007, 03:25:18 PM
I can still get in. Deiseach you must have done something to them :D
Our techie guru has introduced a filtering system, which only lets non-patrons in when the servers aren't busy and also blocks non-patrons after a certain number of posts, until they pay their fiver. The server was getting swamped and we've upgraded several times this year already, so it was decided that those who've paid their fiver should get priority.

Although obviously in deiseach's case, we just don't like him.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: deiseach on October 12, 2007, 04:17:44 PM
Although obviously in deiseach's case, we just don't like him.  ;)

Harsh but fair
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: tintin25 on October 12, 2007, 05:06:15 PM
I definitely think that the Gaaboard is more accomodating to OWC follower's than the other way round...why is this? I registered an account on OWC only to have it deleted for making a light-hearted joke with regard to the vacant Manager's job (At the time). I just posted a message saying how I felt Joe Kernan should be in the running as he had a successful tenure with the Armagh team. lol. I had barely sent the message and some dick of an admin loses the bap with me!! Fcuk sake like. Take a joke. At least the users here seem to take abit of banter!  :P
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Rossfan on October 12, 2007, 08:44:49 PM
It's all that dour Presbyterianism that has them that way.
You know - the absolute fear that someone somewhere might be enjoying something ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on October 16, 2007, 01:17:29 PM
Youse boys are very quiet about the weekend revelation that your boss Howard Wells helped negotiate a lucrative £500,000 IFA deal with a ticketing firm while he was also in partnership with the successful company  ... a contract that was not put out to tender because the aformentioned Mr Wells decided - on his own initiative - that the aformentioned firm with which he was still in partnership with could do the job better than anyone else .... mmmm, no conflict of interest there, eh?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Evil Genius on October 16, 2007, 01:25:34 PM
Youse boys are very quiet about the weekend revelation that your boss Howard Wells helped negotiate a lucrative £500,000 IFA deal with a ticketing firm while he was also in partnership with the successful company  ... a contract that was not put out to tender because the aformentioned Mr Wells decided - on his own initiative - that the aformentioned firm with which he was still in partnership with could do the job better than anyone else .... mmmm, no conflict of interest there, eh?

If by "youse boys" you mean those posters on this Board who are also fans of the NI soccer team, there is a thread on OWC where Wells comes in for severe stick all round for (what I suppose I must call) this alleged conflict of interest.

Oh and by the way, he also recommended the company in question to the FAI. Who awarded them the contract.

For the record, Howard Wells is about as popular with NI football fans as John Delaney is with their ROI counterparts!  :o
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on October 16, 2007, 01:35:40 PM
I definitely think that the Gaaboard is more accomodating to OWC follower's than the other way round...why is this? I registered an account on OWC only to have it deleted for making a light-hearted joke with regard to the vacant Manager's job (At the time). I just posted a message saying how I felt Joe Kernan should be in the running as he had a successful tenure with the Armagh team. lol. I had barely sent the message and some dick of an admin loses the bap with me!! Fcuk sake like. Take a joke. At least the users here seem to take abit of banter!  :P

Orior got banned for typing two words on a thread asking what the new stadium should be named.......................orior wanted to name it 'the orange bowl' and was promptly banned. Those hoors have absolutely no sense of humour at all at all.

You cannot mention the GAA over there unless it is in the ' other sports, even gaa section'.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Evil Genius on October 16, 2007, 01:54:18 PM
Orior got banned for typing two words on a thread asking what the new stadium should be named.......................orior wanted to name it 'the orange bowl' and was promptly banned. Those hoors have absolutely no sense of humour at all at all.

You cannot mention the GAA over there unless it is in the ' other sports, even gaa section'.

Poor old Orior - perhaps he just has the "wrong" sense of humour, since someone else suggested naming it the "Sands Siro" without getting banned!

And you can actually mention GAA in other sections if it's relevant*, but like this Board with its "Official Thread" policy, they like to keep it in one section.


* - It also helps if it is in derogatory terms!  :D)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: deiseach on October 16, 2007, 02:06:33 PM
Poor old Orior - perhaps he just has the "wrong" sense of humour, since someone else suggested naming it the "Sands Siro" without getting banned!

I think that is stew's point
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 16, 2007, 02:17:00 PM
I definitely think that the Gaaboard is more accomodating to OWC follower's than the other way round...why is this? I registered an account on OWC only to have it deleted for making a light-hearted joke with regard to the vacant Manager's job (At the time). I just posted a message saying how I felt Joe Kernan should be in the running as he had a successful tenure with the Armagh team. lol. I had barely sent the message and some dick of an admin loses the bap with me!! Fcuk sake like. Take a joke. At least the users here seem to take abit of banter!  :P

Orior got banned for typing two words on a thread asking what the new stadium should be named.......................orior wanted to name it 'the orange bowl' and was promptly banned. Those hoors have absolutely no sense of humour at all at all.

You cannot mention the GAA over there unless it is in the ' other sports, even gaa section'.



Yes you can. Admittedly only if you're complaining about or slating the GAA though. ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on October 16, 2007, 02:32:31 PM
I definitely think that the Gaaboard is more accomodating to OWC follower's than the other way round...why is this? I registered an account on OWC only to have it deleted for making a light-hearted joke with regard to the vacant Manager's job (At the time). I just posted a message saying how I felt Joe Kernan should be in the running as he had a successful tenure with the Armagh team. lol. I had barely sent the message and some dick of an admin loses the bap with me!! Fcuk sake like. Take a joke. At least the users here seem to take abit of banter!  :P

Orior got banned for typing two words on a thread asking what the new stadium should be named.......................orior wanted to name it 'the orange bowl' and was promptly banned. Those hoors have absolutely no sense of humour at all at all.

You cannot mention the GAA over there unless it is in the ' other sports, even gaa section'.



Yes, it was a bit like getting divorced before we even got engaged. I couldnt stand the bitch anyway and I'm better off without her.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on October 16, 2007, 02:48:20 PM
'If by "youse boys" you mean those posters on this Board who are also fans of the NI soccer team, there is a thread on OWC'

What's the point?  You stifle debate by banning anybody that doesn't toe the party line ... bit like that funny wee moustached boyo who started World War II and is the same nationality as your beloved monarch
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on October 16, 2007, 02:52:54 PM
Charlie Chaplin started World War II? :o
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on October 17, 2007, 10:16:24 AM
Not to sound like a Nazi here, but Hitler considered Austria part of a Greater Germany (thus the anchluss) and considered himself 100% German ... same percentage as the Sax-Coburg-Gotha-Windsors
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Evil Genius on October 17, 2007, 10:22:14 AM
Not to sound like a Nazi here, but Hitler considered Austria part of a Greater Germany (thus the anchluss) and considered himself 100% German ... same percentage as the Sax-Coburg-Gotha-Windsors

You're not sounding like a Nazi, you're sounding like a tit. This is a thread about the Irish Football Association.  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on October 17, 2007, 10:45:29 AM
'You're not sounding like a Nazi, you're sounding like a tit. This is a thread about the Irish Football Association. '

You're absolutely right ... C'mon Sweden, stuff the b**tards...
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Evil Genius on October 17, 2007, 11:32:18 AM
'You're not sounding like a Nazi, you're sounding like a tit. This is a thread about the Irish Football Association. '

You're absolutely right ... C'mon Sweden, stuff the b**tards...

Now you're sounding like a Scandinavian, which is an advance, no doubt. Any relation to "Eric the Red", red hander?  ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on October 17, 2007, 11:34:18 AM
He's one of Inoff the Red's ones. Inoff was a lovely guy. Shit snooker player though.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on October 17, 2007, 11:49:30 AM
Not to sound like a Nazi here, but Hitler considered Austria part of a Greater Germany (thus the anchluss) and considered himself 100% German ... same percentage as the Sax-Coburg-Gotha-Windsors

We're having the same arguement about Oscar Wilde and Spike Milligan in the UK's Top Wits thread ;)
Title: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: full back on October 18, 2007, 11:25:38 AM
How p1ssed off would you be if you travelled to Iceland to watch the team knowing they dont give a fcuk?
Baird has some cheek on him saying it none of the fans business


 

 
Chris Baird has captained Northern Ireland this year
However, the BBC's Good Morning Ulster has learned of allegations that several senior squad members engaged in late-night drinking sessions after their recent defeat in Latvia.

That was just three days before a crucial match against Iceland when the team still had a realistic prospect of making it through to their first major finals in 20 years.

One eyewitness described what happened: "We passed a McDonald's which had a serving hatch and decided to call in there for something to eat.

"We saw a taxi pull up and we recognised a couple of the Northern Ireland players stepping out, the likes of Chris Baird, Jonesy [Steve Jones] and Steve Davis.

"It was very easy to see they'd had a lot of drink on board. I had a bit of a chat with Chris Baird to say 'unlucky and good luck', but it's just disappointing to see boys stepping out of a taxi at that time of night after being beaten in such an important game and still having everything to play for.

"If that's the attitude we have, we didn't have a chance in Iceland."

Senior lecturer in Sports Science at the University of Ulster, Dr Gareth Davison, says the players' chances of recovering fully after the Latvia game would have been hampered by drinking and staying out late.

  There were 2,500 people over there who would have been ever so glad to pull on a pair of boots and a green jersey for Northern Ireland - it's every boy's dream - and to see players getting on like that, it's just a bit disappointing

Northern Ireland fan

"It's vitally important that you give your body time to recover and that really involves rest and recuperation after exercise. Alcohol impairs the recovery rate."

Dr Davison says drinking and staying out to the early hours is now unacceptable at a professional level in most major sports.

"There is a big difference between amateur and professional sport. If you want to be a professional you certainly look after your nutrition, you get adequate sleep.

"If you want to stay within the amateur ranks it may be acceptable, in some cases, to stay out late and consume alcohol."

When Good Morning Ulster contacted Chris Baird to ask him about the allegations, he confirmed he had been out with his two team mates until the early hours, but added that it was "none of the fans' business".

Not so, says the fan who was in Riga that night.

"There were 2,500 people over there who would have been ever so glad to pull on a pair of boots and a green jersey for Northern Ireland - it's every boy's dream - and to see players getting on like that, it's just a bit disappointing."

Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: Rav67 on October 18, 2007, 11:46:30 AM
When Good Morning Ulster contacted Chris Baird to ask him about the allegations, he confirmed he had been out with his two team mates until the early hours, but added that it was "none of the fans' business".


Very important where you put the apostrophe here - Baird probably meant "none of the fan's business" ie the fan who was making the allegation to the media, rather than"fans' business" meaning the whole of the green and white army.  Unsuprisingly the BBC wont give him the benefit of the doubt anyway.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: Great Leap Forward on October 18, 2007, 01:53:58 PM
The BBC were so forthcoming with the inside track on the Gillespie-McCartney row.

That has been neatly brushed over.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on October 18, 2007, 01:58:07 PM
Senior lecturer in Sports Science at the University of Ulster, Dr Gareth Davison, says the players' chances of recovering fully after the Latvia game would have been hampered by drinking and staying out late.

What an absolute genius!!  :-\
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: ONeill on October 18, 2007, 02:02:26 PM
Senior lecturer in Sports Science at the University of Ulster, Dr Gareth Davison, says the players' chances of recovering fully after the Latvia game would have been hampered by drinking and staying out late.

What an absolute genius!!  :-\

Senior lecturer in Sports Science at the University of Ulster, Dr Gareth Davison, also says the players' chances of recovering fully after the Latvia game would have been hampered by swimming across the Atlantic, sticking a traffic cone up their collective hole, losing a limb, contracting the consumption, losing an eye, cutting your toes off and running into a wall repeatedly.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: T Fearon on October 18, 2007, 03:15:28 PM
What with all night drinking sessions in Prague, followed by jail terms (wonder why the Czech authorities didn't press for extradition) and fighting on planes, boozing in Latvia,the six county soccer side is the playing version of Millwall. By the way whats worse for professional athletes, a couple of scoops or a Big Mac?

On a related issue anyone else find Baird to be a hateful little cnut?
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: red hander on October 18, 2007, 04:01:48 PM
'meaning the whole of the green and white army'

What? All 600 of you?  That's some 'army'
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 18, 2007, 04:07:25 PM
great leap forward; yer not gonna let tony off with that are ye.....................
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: rashCharacter on October 18, 2007, 04:15:47 PM
Tony,

What is it about Chris Baird that makes you form such a spiteful bitter opinion of someone you probably haven't met.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: Stalin on October 18, 2007, 04:24:05 PM
Tony watch what you say or John Doherty will be after you
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: T Fearon on October 18, 2007, 04:45:26 PM
Who? Wee Johnny nark?
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: T Fearon on October 18, 2007, 04:49:15 PM
I just don't like Baird,he is an ugly cnut, plus they way he swans about, his whole demeanour, you'd think he was Franz Beckenbauer, instead of a below standard full back struggling in a team at the basement of the Premiership
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: Balboa on October 18, 2007, 04:52:00 PM
I take it there are not anymore programmes planned anytime soon with Jackie Fullerton playing with himself talking to "Healy"..........
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: spiritof91and94 on October 18, 2007, 04:54:37 PM
I just don't like Baird,he is an ugly cnut, plus they way he swans about, his whole demeanour, you'd think he was Franz Beckenbauer, instead of a below standard full back struggling in a team at the basement of the Premiership

Has he signed for the mighty spurs????!!!
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 18, 2007, 04:54:53 PM
I just don't like Baird,he is an ugly cnut, plus they way he swans about, his whole demeanour, you'd think he was Franz Beckenbauer, instead of a below standard full back struggling in a team at the basement of the Premiership

When did Baird sign for Spurs?
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: Evil Genius on October 18, 2007, 04:55:21 PM
Tony,

What is it about Chris Baird that makes you form such a spiteful bitter opinion of someone you probably haven't met.

I don't suppose it's anything to do with the fact that he's a Gaelic football-playing Catholic from Rasharkin, who is also proud to have been appointed captain of NI, thereby tearing the arse out of the bigot Fearon's attempt to portray them as "mono-cultural/sectarian/Unionist bla bla bla..."?

That is, the Irish soccer team which didn't embarrass its fans last night, as they continue to contest a place in the Finals of Euro2008?
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: hardstation on October 18, 2007, 04:56:23 PM
In fairness, I have an irrational dislike for him too. I really can't put my finger on it but he just looks like a wee dick.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: Evil Genius on October 18, 2007, 04:57:31 PM
I just don't like Baird,he is an ugly cnut, plus they way he swans about, his whole demeanour, you'd think he was Franz Beckenbauer, instead of a below standard full back struggling in a team at the basement of the Premiership

Do you mean Chris Baird? Or Pascal Chimbonda?  ;)
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 18, 2007, 04:58:45 PM
so tony, is baird the white mans chimbonda; is that what yer sayin???

(was gonna equate him to that wee nip lee yung po; but couldnt mind his exact name.......)
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: spiritof91and94 on October 18, 2007, 05:04:19 PM



I just don't like Baird,he is an ugly cnut, plus they way he swans about, his whole demeanour, you'd think he was Franz Beckenbauer, instead of a below standard full back struggling in a team at the basement of the Premiership


Has he signed for the mighty spurs?!!! 
 

 
 
 





I just don't like Baird,he is an ugly cnut, plus they way he swans about, his whole demeanour, you'd think he was Franz Beckenbauer, instead of a below standard full back struggling in a team at the basement of the Premiership


When did Baird sign for Spurs?
 
 
 
 
 
Beat you to it!
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 18, 2007, 05:06:48 PM
ballix - well, great minds and all that craic

 :D :D
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: Great Leap Forward on October 19, 2007, 10:20:53 AM
great leap forward; yer not gonna let tony off with that are ye.....................

I don't feel the need to defend my fellow Rasharkin man against the likes of Tony. Sure one of his heroes is Neil Lennon who comes accross the one of the biggest pricks ever to kick a ball. Lennon is probably dead on in the flesh but he gives the impression that he is an arrogant wee ****.

I have known Chrissy for over 20 years and despite what people think of his demeanour, he is a modest enouigh young lad and anybody in Southampton will tell you he worked harder than anybody to make it in the game.

Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: his holiness nb on October 19, 2007, 10:26:48 AM
Tony,

What is it about Chris Baird that makes you form such a spiteful bitter opinion of someone you probably haven't met.

I don't suppose it's anything to do with the fact that he's a Gaelic football-playing Catholic from Rasharkin, who is also proud to have been appointed captain of NI, thereby tearing the arse out of the bigot Fearon's attempt to portray them as "mono-cultural/sectarian/Unionist bla bla bla..."?

That is, the Irish soccer team which didn't embarrass its fans last night, as they continue to contest a place in the Finals of Euro2008?

I havent really being following it, see they got a good draw in Sweden.
How are the fixed for qualification EG, outside chance or still in their own hands?
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: nifan on October 19, 2007, 10:42:17 AM
Very much an outside chance hhn,

need to win both denmark at home and spain away, and hope that sweden take at least a point in spain.

Not likely but you have to hope!
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: T Fearon on October 19, 2007, 10:51:44 AM
More chance of Paisley being next Pope than the six counties team appearing in Austria and Switzerland next summer. 1 point maximum out of the last 6 is the best they can hope for, and I still am optimistic that they won't finish any higher than 4th place while the real Ireland team defeats the Taffs to finish third in our group, confirming that there is still only one team in Ireland ;D.

As for equating Baird with Chimbonda, Chimbonda plays for the team that finished 5th in last year's Premiership I will remind you all, and also weighs in with important goals.

Would Baird ever have got a move to the Premiership if Sanchez hadn't become Fulham manager? I don't think so
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 19, 2007, 10:52:43 AM
good man leap; knew ye wouldnt let yer fellow "boys from the bad side o the bann" down....

i had posted around 4 y'day, but i suppose by then the workin day was well and truly oer for silly servants........ ;D
Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: nifan on October 19, 2007, 10:59:14 AM
Would Baird ever have got a move to the Premiership if Sanchez hadn't become Fulham manager? I don't think so

Well seeing as Roy Keane also tried to buy him, and it came down to his decision, then probably.

As for your comments as to the positions of NI and ROI, Id still rather be in contention for a place now, and have the possibility of finishing 4th, than be 7 points behind second with a game extra played and out of it.

Title: Re: Northern Ireland on the lash..
Post by: tintin25 on October 19, 2007, 11:05:14 AM
Don't know Chris Baird, so can't comment on him personally, but anytime I've seen him play for Fulham this season he's got badly roasted!!! Not a Premiership footballer IMO.
Title: More IFA Bashing in to-day's Irish News
Post by: T Fearon on October 20, 2007, 10:05:12 AM
Excellent epistle from a G Hanna on the lack of support forthcoming for the monocultural IFA side and the shame of the Englishman heading up the IFA trying to deny the freely expressed wishes of Darron Gibson to represent the real Ireland side. Well done, Mr,Mrs or Miss Hanna ;)
Title: Re: More IFA Bashing in to-day's Irish News
Post by: nifan on October 20, 2007, 11:51:00 AM
Tony, agree or disagree on Gibsons position a person cannot select which country to represent.
If it is deemed that Gibson is qualified to play for the ROI then fine, if not the rules are there to be followed.
The persons opinion only matters when there is a legitimate choice to make, which we will find out upon shortly.
Title: Re: More IFA Bashing in to-day's Irish News
Post by: T Fearon on October 20, 2007, 12:32:40 PM
How come Aiden Mc Geady can elect to play for Ireland when he was

1) Born in Scotland
2) Scotland wanted him to play for them
3) Scotland and Ireland are clear and distinct countries separated by water

How come Darron Gibson seemingly might be ineligible for Ireland when he was

1) Born in Ireland
2) His native City's Club side play in the league of Ireland
3) He Holds an Irish Passport.

The anomaly here baffles me, I'm afraid.

If the ruling by Swiss bureaucrats goes against Gibson I hope he takes his case to the European Court of Human Rights, just like Bosman. At the end of the day the IFA have made no effort whatsoever to attract nationalist players or fans by their retention of sectarian laws like the Ban on Sunday Soccer, and the retention of exclusively Unionist symbols and paraphernalia. UEFA/FIFA should be investigating why a so called national side fails to garner support and is actively alienated from 50% of its population
Title: Re: More IFA Bashing in to-day's Irish News
Post by: ziggysego on October 20, 2007, 12:49:04 PM
The letter sounds like you Tony. You wouldn't have a new pen name would you?
Title: Re: More IFA Bashing in to-day's Irish News
Post by: T Fearon on October 20, 2007, 12:54:17 PM
Ziggy, why would I use a false name? In any case the Editor wouldn't print a letter with a name unless he was certain the name was authentic. What OWC/IFA dont seem to realise is that my views are not those of a crank (as they sadly attempt to portray) but are widely if not universally shared throughout the nationalist population of the 6 counties
Title: Re: More IFA Bashing in to-day's Irish News
Post by: dublinfella on October 20, 2007, 02:37:53 PM
How come Aiden Mc Geady can elect to play for Ireland when he was

1) Born in Scotland
2) Scotland wanted him to play for them
3) Scotland and Ireland are clear and distinct countries separated by water

How come Darron Gibson seemingly might be ineligible for Ireland when he was

1) Born in Ireland
2) His native City's Club side play in the league of Ireland
3) He Holds an Irish Passport.

The anomaly here baffles me, I'm afraid.FIF

If the ruling by Swiss bureaucrats goes against Gibson I hope he takes his case to the European Court of Human Rights, just like Bosman. At the end of the day the IFA have made no effort whatsoever to attract nationalist players or fans by their retention of sectarian laws like the Ban on Sunday Soccer, and the retention of exclusively Unionist symbols and paraphernalia. UEFA/FIFA should be investigating why a so called national side fails to garner support and is actively alienated from 50% of its population


A very simplified view Tony. Like it or not, citizenship os not enough on its own anymore. Technically the IFA are correct here. DG fails to meet any of the 3 other criteria for eligibility for the FAI side. Aiden McGeady doesn't.

Ignore the political angle, and I laugh when I hear the European Court of Human Rights mentioned (which 'human right' exactly is being breached?) and look at the rules. They have been breached.

Prepare yourself for the probability the FAI lost and face a big fine.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Rossfan on October 20, 2007, 03:26:11 PM
I suppose they'll expect South Dublin Council or Thomas Davis to pay the fine for them  :D
Title: Re: More IFA Bashing in to-day's Irish News
Post by: Solomon Kane on October 20, 2007, 05:47:34 PM
How come Aiden Mc Geady can elect to play for Ireland when he was

1) Born in Scotland


ROI granny. Do try and keep up! :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on October 21, 2007, 09:26:50 PM
Tony, are you really not intelligent enough to understand the salient points of the argument, whether you agree with them or not?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Our Nail Loney on October 21, 2007, 10:04:35 PM
were not brazil were northern ireland! I love love brazil, but i also love northern ireland, what a dillemma il prob just piss mesel.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: doofus on October 21, 2007, 10:32:53 PM
How can norn iron suppose to attract supporters from throughout the province whenever their fan site is blocked to view?  ???
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on October 22, 2007, 08:57:58 AM
How can norn iron suppose to attract supporters from throughout the province whenever their fan site is blocked to view?  ???

A few things

1) I presume you mean OWC when you talk about 'their (sic) fan site'. This is only one of dozens of sites and is owned and run by a private individual, so he can let in (or not) whoever he wants. The official IFA site http://www.irishfa.com/ (http://www.irishfa.com/) is available to all.

2) OWC is not blocked all the time. It has a system where it allows people on depending on how busy the server is. If it's not busy then anybody can view, if it's a bit busier then only members can view and if it's very busy then only patrons (who've paid a fiver towards the running of the site) can view. The server has been upgraded several times in the last few years but still can't cope with the demand (over 6000 members and nearly half a million posts) so this system was introduced.

3) We already have supporters from all over the province and beyond. OWC is only a small percentage of the fan base.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on November 09, 2007, 06:47:50 PM
Wrist slap for Jeffries.

As suspected the storm in the teacup
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/irish/7087796.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/irish/7087796.stm)

The IFA's Disciplinary Committee has ruled that there was "no basis of fact" in the allegations.

If I remember rightly, a bit of a ironic jibe  'Yer only a bunch of Fenians' directed at Linfield FC was turned into a sectarian taunt by Jeffries.
The whole incident goes beyond surreal,  would only makes sense in a place like Craggy Island.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: magickingdom on November 09, 2007, 08:02:02 PM
How can norn iron suppose to attract supporters from throughout the province whenever their fan site is blocked to view?  ???

A few things

1) I presume you mean OWC when you talk about 'their (sic) fan site'. This is only one of dozens of sites and is owned and run by a private individual, so he can let in (or not) whoever he wants. The official IFA site http://www.irishfa.com/ (http://www.irishfa.com/) is available to all.

2) OWC is not blocked all the time. It has a system where it allows people on depending on how busy the server is. If it's not busy then anybody can view, if it's a bit busier then only members can view and if it's very busy then only patrons (who've paid a fiver towards the running of the site) can view. The server has been upgraded several times in the last few years but still can't cope with the demand (over 6000 members and nearly half a million posts) so this system was introduced.

3) We already have supporters from all over the province and beyond. OWC is only a small percentage of the fan base.



bullshit and you know it. you can come on here anytime and argue your points but the same CANNOT be done on owc. save us the crap
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 09, 2007, 08:03:36 PM
bullshit and you know it. you can come on here anytime and argue your points but the same CANNOT be done on owc. save us the crap
WTF are you on about? I can only come on here by registering, exactly the same as OWC.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: magickingdom on November 09, 2007, 08:06:36 PM
bullshit and you know it. you can come on here anytime and argue your points but the same CANNOT be done on owc. save us the crap
WTF are you on about? I can only come on here by registering, exactly the same as OWC.

how long has the site been closed now? anyone can read any post here..
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 09, 2007, 08:08:29 PM
bullshit and you know it. you can come on here anytime and argue your points but the same CANNOT be done on owc. save us the crap
WTF are you on about? I can only come on here by registering, exactly the same as OWC.

how long has the site been closed now? anyone can read any post here..
The site isn't closed.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: magickingdom on November 09, 2007, 08:11:46 PM
you know exactly what i mean, i cannot go over there and read the posts the way anyone can here..
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 09, 2007, 08:17:04 PM
you know exactly what i mean, i cannot go over there and read the posts the way anyone can here..

You can if the sites quiet. Why should the people that are paying for the bandwidth be slowed down by a lurkers who aren't?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: magickingdom on November 09, 2007, 08:57:22 PM
its amazing it got so busy after they got knocked out of the european championships..
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: deiseach on November 09, 2007, 09:06:59 PM
You can if the sites quiet. Why should the people that are paying for the bandwidth be slowed down by a lurkers who aren't?

Is that how it works? I can't ever get in. Not that I object, you're quite entitled to ration the bandwidth to those who actually stump up their fiver.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 10, 2007, 10:17:20 AM
its amazing it got so busy after they got knocked out of the european championships..
We haven't been knocked out (yet!!!).
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 10, 2007, 10:18:40 AM
You can if the sites quiet. Why should the people that are paying for the bandwidth be slowed down by a lurkers who aren't?

Is that how it works? I can't ever get in. Not that I object, you're quite entitled to ration the bandwidth to those who actually stump up their fiver.

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Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: magickingdom on November 10, 2007, 11:30:22 AM
its amazing it got so busy after they got knocked out of the european championships..
We haven't been knocked out (yet!!!).

oh yes you have! you heard it here first sammy ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on November 10, 2007, 11:55:09 AM
That OWC board has been closed for unregistered guests for ages, 6 or 8 weeks?
I have to admit there was entertainment in the disgruntled threads about the November play and the eligibility issue.


Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
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This lock might last for two minutes, or it might last for two hours. It all depends on how many Patrons are on the forum.

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That's perfectly fair. As the man (woman?) says, I can pay my fiver if it meant that much to me. It doesn't.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on November 10, 2007, 05:37:41 PM
How can norn iron suppose to attract supporters from throughout the province whenever their fan site is blocked to view?  ???

A few things

1) I presume you mean OWC when you talk about 'their (sic) fan site'. This is only one of dozens of sites and is owned and run by a private individual, so he can let in (or not) whoever he wants. The official IFA site http://www.irishfa.com/ (http://www.irishfa.com/) is available to all.

2) OWC is not blocked all the time. It has a system where it allows people on depending on how busy the server is. If it's not busy then anybody can view, if it's a bit busier then only members can view and if it's very busy then only patrons (who've paid a fiver towards the running of the site) can view. The server has been upgraded several times in the last few years but still can't cope with the demand (over 6000 members and nearly half a million posts) so this system was introduced.

3) We already have supporters from all over the province and beyond. OWC is only a small percentage of the fan base.



bullshit and you know it. you can come on here anytime and argue your points but the same CANNOT be done on owc. save us the crap


Sammyg accused of lying again shocker!!!!!! :o
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 10, 2007, 06:21:19 PM
Sammyg accused of lying again shocker!!!!!! :o
Sammy accused in the wrong again, not a shocker!!  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on November 10, 2007, 07:51:37 PM
Sammyg accused of lying again shocker!!!!!! :o
Sammy accused in the wrong again, not a shocker!!  ::)

You and the boul slab have more in common that I thought sammy   ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on November 21, 2007, 10:44:02 PM
So after all the singing and dancing is done, both the north and south end up in third place in their groups. Both have the identical goals for and against record, with the north gaining 3 more points than the south.

Surely there is a shout that there should be one team representing this island, with the combined player pool  we would have a far bigger chance of reaching major tournaments.

Both the north and south have failed to qualify for the last FIVE european championships. Pathetic record.
Title: IFA commit to Páirc na Ceise Fada
Post by: Donagh on November 28, 2007, 06:16:18 PM
Some boy Kennedy from the IFA on the radio now saying they're happy with the business plan and as there are no other alternatives, will play ten games there every year. Says they have no Plan B.
Title: Re: IFA comit to Páirc Ceis Fada
Post by: hardstation on November 28, 2007, 06:25:08 PM
That would be Páirc Cheis Fhada.
Or even Páirc na Ceise Fada.

Oh aye and commit.
Sorry.
Title: Re: IFA comit to Páirc Ceis Fada
Post by: Donagh on November 28, 2007, 06:39:50 PM
That would be Páirc Cheis Fhada.
Or even Páirc na Ceise Fada.

Oh aye and commit.
Sorry.

Shheesskkk
Title: Re: IFA comit to Páirc Ceis Fada
Post by: Chrisowc on November 28, 2007, 07:03:03 PM
That would be Páirc Cheis Fhada.
Or even Páirc na Ceise Fada.

Oh aye and commit.
Sorry.

It's just Donagh doing his impression of Gerry ;)
Title: Re: IFA commit to Páirc na Ceise Fada
Post by: Square Ball on November 28, 2007, 07:28:50 PM
 
 
How the Maze site could look if the plans get the go ahead
The prospect of a stadium being built at the Maze has been brought closer after the GAA, IFA and Ulster Rugby confirmed they would play games there.
The three organisations have all signed a document estimating the minimum number of supporters they would hope to attract there annually.

Raymond Kennedy, president of the Irish Football Association, said the move made good economic sense.

"We did look at the business case - the business case stacks up," he said.

"We agreed that we would probably play seven fixtures - three competitive, two or three friendlies, a Setanta Cup final maybe and the Irish Cup final."


The plan is for a 35,000-seater stadium for soccer and rugby, and the provision of more seats for GAA fans.

Cost

Renting the new stadium would cost the three main sporting bodies about £1m annually.

To pay for that, the GAA has said it could bring at least 150,000 spectators to its games.

It believes the new stadium could be used to stage an All-Ireland Quarter Final or a national league decider.

The IFA said it could attract at least 80,000 fans, while Ulster Rugby estimates it could bring about 40,000 supporters through the turnstiles.


The IFA has said it would play at least six international matches there per year.

Rugby would include at least one Autumn international and all of Ulster's home Heineken Cup matches.





 
Title: Re: IFA commit to Páirc na Ceise Fada
Post by: bailestil on November 28, 2007, 07:38:32 PM
How the Maze site could look if the plans get the go ahead
The prospect of a stadium being built at the Maze has been brought closer after the GAA, IFA and Ulster Rugby confirmed they would play games there.
The three organisations have all signed a document estimating the minimum number of supporters they would hope to attract there annually.

Raymond Kennedy, president of the Irish Football Association, said the move made good economic sense.

"We did look at the business case - the business case stacks up," he said.

"We agreed that we would probably play seven fixtures - three competitive, two or three friendlies, a Setanta Cup final maybe and the Irish Cup final."


The plan is for a 35,000-seater stadium for soccer and rugby, and the provision of more seats for GAA fans.

Cost

Renting the new stadium would cost the three main sporting bodies about £1m annually.

To pay for that, the GAA has said it could bring at least 150,000 spectators to its games.

It believes the new stadium could be used to stage an All-Ireland Quarter Final or a national league decider.

The IFA said it could attract at least 80,000 fans, while Ulster Rugby estimates it could bring about 40,000 supporters through the turnstiles.


The IFA has said it would play at least six international matches there per year.

Rugby would include at least one Autumn international and all of Ulster's home Heineken Cup matches.

80,000, over 7 games 11,000 odd per game.

Why do the IFA want a 35,000 seater when, if it'll be on average a third full for games.

This place will Suit the GAA Down to the ground. A proper 35,000 seater stadium, with proper facilities. For £1m. Sure that wouldn't fix a toilet block in Clones, Bargain!
Title: Re: IFA commit to Páirc na Ceise Fada
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 28, 2007, 10:25:06 PM
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Why do the IFA want a 35,000 seater when, if it'll be on average a third full for games.

They don't particularly and their fans vehemently oppose it. But they need a new stadium (apparently) and the IFA doesn't have the money to build one. To avail of the public funded stadium they need to share with the GAA and Rugby and the GAA are (correctly) insisting that the new stadium holds at least 35,000 as anything less would be of little value to us.
Title: Re: IFA commit to Páirc na Ceise Fada
Post by: snatter on November 28, 2007, 11:43:02 PM
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This place will Suit the GAA Down to the ground. A proper 35,000 seater stadium, with proper facilities. For £1m.

BBC NI report tonight said that it's actually a million per year between all three sports bodies.
My guess is that the rent will be close to 500k pa for the GAA.

Absolute bargain compared to cost of building 42k capacity fully covered top class stadium on our own.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Watcher Pat on November 29, 2007, 10:22:53 AM
So after all the singing and dancing is done, both the north and south end up in third place in their groups. Both have the identical goals for and against record, with the north gaining 3 more points than the south.

Surely there is a shout that there should be one team representing this island, with the combined player pool  we would have a far bigger chance of reaching major tournaments.

Both the north and south have failed to qualify for the last FIVE european championships. Pathetic record.

Nonsence Stiffler!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on November 29, 2007, 11:44:13 AM
Anyone else notice the utter hypocrisy of the IFA, Howard Smells and Stephen Beacom on the radio this morning. After finally jettisoning the sectarian ban on Sunday soccer last night, both of them were on bleating about freedom of choice  this morning. Yet they would both seek to deny freedom of choice to young players born in the North who want to play for the FAI team
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 29, 2007, 11:47:05 AM
Anyone else notice the utter hypocrisy of the IFA, Howard Smells and Stephen Beacom on the radio this morning. After finally jettisoning the sectarian ban on Sunday soccer last night, both of them were on bleating about freedom of choice  this morning.
Tony

For aproximately the millionth time, can you please tell us in what way the Sunday ban was sectarian?
Yet they would both seek to deny freedom of choice to young players born in the North who want to play for the FAI team
No, they want FIFA's rules to be implemented in the same way as they are all across the world. If the players are elligible then they are free to choose the FAI.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 29, 2007, 11:49:43 AM
Anyone else notice the utter hypocrisy of the IFA, Howard Smells and Stephen Beacom on the radio this morning. After finally jettisoning the sectarian ban on Sunday soccer last night, both of them were on bleating about freedom of choice  this morning.
Tony

For aproximately the millionth time, can you please tell us in what way the Sunday ban was sectarian?
Yet they would both seek to deny freedom of choice to young players born in the North who want to play for the FAI team
No, they want FIFA's rules to be implemented in the same way as they are all across the world. If the players are elligible then they are free to choose the FAI.

Any else getting a weird sense of deja vu?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on November 29, 2007, 12:10:58 PM
For the millionth time Sammy I will answer you. The Ban on Sunday soccer was in accordance with the practice and beliefs of protestantism and this reflects or did reflect the personal beliefs of IFA members in general. I would hope you would not try to insult anyone's intelligence by attempting to deny this.

Also players born in any part of the 32 counties of Ireland should have the right to exercise their freedom of choice and play for either the IFA or FAI team. What the IFA are trying to do is effectively coerce players born in the 6 counties into playing for their team, hence we have the farcical situation of a so called "British Association" playing players who hold Irish passports. Now tell me where that happens anywhere else in the world?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 29, 2007, 12:18:24 PM
For the millionth time Sammy I will answer you. The Ban on Sunday soccer was in accordance with the practice and beliefs of protestantism
In what way?
Also players born in any part of the 32 counties of Ireland should have the right to exercise their freedom of choice and play for either the IFA or FAI team.
Why just those two, why not Brazil or Croatia or Australia
What the IFA are trying to do is effectively coerce players born in the 6 counties into playing for their team,
Complete bollix, how could the IFA co-erce anybody (even if they wanted to)
hence we have the farcical situation of a so called "British Association" playing players who hold Irish passports. Now tell me where that happens anywhere else in the world?
Err the IFA represent NI they don't represent Britain, so I've no idea what your point is.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on November 29, 2007, 06:42:37 PM
Are self-delusion and paranoia required ingredients to be part of the statelet's fan base?

I only ask cos a letter in today's News Letter (I never miss it) about the game in Spain had me wetting myself involuntarily.

Master Timothy Thorpe, 'Green and White Army', Coleraine (strange address) lambasts the nasty Spanish rossers for their treatment of "the fabulous Northern Ireland support" by holding them outside the stadium "like animals".  Who else would put up with it, Master Timothy laments.

"I suspect not a lot as I am sure they would have resorted to violence by that stage, but not the Green and White Army who remained calm amid the harassment and confusion dished out by the Spanish police," he answers his own lamentations.

"Maybe it was all a big ploy," Timmy suggests.  "Maybe the Spanish were jealous of the best supporters in Europe; maybe FIFA encouraged the hold-up to intimidate us and make us resort to violence in another attempt to take 'Our Wee Country' out of the football world.

"If it was or if it wasn't, the Green and White Army will fight tooth and nail to keep the integrity of our wee country intact and support Northern Ireland wherever they may go."

Nurse? The sedatives...

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 29, 2007, 08:49:28 PM
Anyone else notice the utter hypocrisy of the IFA, Howard Smells and Stephen Beacom on the radio this morning. After finally jettisoning the sectarian ban on Sunday soccer last night, both of them were on bleating about freedom of choice  this morning.
Tony

For aproximately the millionth time, can you please tell us in what way the Sunday ban was sectarian?

Do you know what sectarian means?

Why do you think the rule was in place?

I would also be interested if you could list the names and roles of the 18 man executive committee and which of the dozen and a half would be most likely to lose their posts if it was reduced to 10.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Watcher Pat on November 30, 2007, 01:40:47 AM
For the millionth time Sammy I will answer you. The Ban on Sunday soccer was in accordance with the practice and beliefs of protestantism
In what way?
Also players born in any part of the 32 counties of Ireland should have the right to exercise their freedom of choice and play for either the IFA or FAI team.
Why just those two, why not Brazil or Croatia or Australia
What the IFA are trying to do is effectively coerce players born in the 6 counties into playing for their team,
Complete bollix, how could the IFA co-erce anybody (even if they wanted to)

My cousin was born in Armagh...Played for R.O.I u21's and has been constantly hassled to play for N.I even tho he holds a Irish passport...Played for the country of his birth..doesnt wanna play for N.I...Wheres it gonna end?? Why try to make someone play for a team that he doesn't want to play for?
hence we have the farcical situation of a so called "British Association" playing players who hold Irish passports. Now tell me where that happens anywhere else in the world?
Err the IFA represent NI they don't represent Britain, so I've no idea what your point is.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Watcher Pat on November 30, 2007, 01:47:35 AM
For the millionth time Sammy I will answer you. The Ban on Sunday soccer was in accordance with the practice and beliefs of protestantism
In what way?
Also players born in any part of the 32 counties of Ireland should have the right to exercise their freedom of choice and play for either the IFA or FAI team.
Why just those two, why not Brazil or Croatia or Australia
What the IFA are trying to do is effectively coerce players born in the 6 counties into playing for their team,
Complete bollix, how could the IFA co-erce anybody (even if they wanted to)

My cousin was born in Armagh...Played for R.O.I u21's and has been constantly hassled to play for N.I even tho he holds a Irish passport...Played for the country of his birth..doesnt wanna play for N.I...Wheres it gonna end?? Why try to make someone play for a team that he doesn't want to play for?
hence we have the farcical situation of a so called "British Association" playing players who hold Irish passports. Now tell me where that happens anywhere else in the world?
Err the IFA represent NI they don't represent Britain, so I've no idea what your point is.
My cousin was born in Armagh...Played for R.O.I u21's and has been constantly hassled to play for N.I even tho he holds a Irish passport...Played for the country of his birth..doesnt wanna play for N.I...Wheres it gonna end?? Why try to make someone play for a team that he doesn't want to play for?

Think i was drunk there and copied every thing! Hope u get the jist of that...
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Turlough O Carolan on November 30, 2007, 05:21:59 AM
Anyone else notice the utter hypocrisy of the IFA, Howard Smells and Stephen Beacom on the radio this morning. After finally jettisoning the sectarian ban on Sunday soccer last night, both of them were on bleating about freedom of choice  this morning.
Tony

For aproximately the millionth time, can you please tell us in what way the Sunday ban was sectarian?

Surely you can't be serious. Discriminating based on a religious belief is sectarian. "No Soccer on a Sunday" is a fundamentalist Christian belief.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 30, 2007, 07:35:06 AM
Do you know what sectarian means?
Yes thanks
Why do you think the rule was in place?
It was originally put in place at a time when it was the norm (and was also the rule in most other countries). And was never removed for various reasons, ranging from the dinosaur mentality at the IFA, through to it being lumped in with other things and being rejected as part of the other package.
I would also be interested if you could list the names and roles of the 18 man executive committee and which of the dozen and a half would be most likely to lose their posts if it was reduced to 10.
You've asked me this loads of times and I've told you I've no idea, there are reps from the Premier League, junior football and the county FAs but other than Kennedy and Hard Wells, I don't know any of them.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 30, 2007, 09:35:34 AM
Also players born in any part of the 32 counties of Ireland should have the right to exercise their freedom of choice and play for either the IFA or FAI team.
Why just those two, why not Brazil or Croatia or Australia

I am staying out of this one for reasons of not giving a f**k, but Sammy, this is a ridiculous post.
And dont get back asking why, its bloody obvious  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 30, 2007, 09:41:10 AM
Also players born in any part of the 32 counties of Ireland should have the right to exercise their freedom of choice and play for either the IFA or FAI team.
Why just those two, why not Brazil or Croatia or Australia

I am staying out of this one for reasons of not giving a f**k, but Sammy, this is a ridiculous post.
And dont get back asking why, its bloody obvious  ::)
Of course it's ridiculous but it's not any more ridiculous than Tony's post. That's the point, players can't just pick and choose who they play for.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Watcher Pat on November 30, 2007, 09:43:43 AM
Also players born in any part of the 32 counties of Ireland should have the right to exercise their freedom of choice and play for either the IFA or FAI team.
Why just those two, why not Brazil or Croatia or Australia

I am staying out of this one for reasons of not giving a f**k, but Sammy, this is a ridiculous post.
And dont get back asking why, its bloody obvious  ::)
Of course it's ridiculous but it's not any more ridiculous than Tony's post. That's the point, players can't just pick and choose who they play for.
Because u mentioned Brazil and Croatia...Can you explain how Eduardo was born in Brazil and plays for Croatia?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 30, 2007, 09:45:55 AM
Sammy, considering how ye all keep reminding us how thick Tony is and how he has no credibility, ye spend a huge amount of time repsonding to his posts.
What gives?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 30, 2007, 09:47:42 AM
Because u mentioned Brazil and Croatia...Can you explain how Eduardo was born in Brazil and plays for Croatia?
Off the top of my head (from memory so I could be wrong) I think he took Croat citizenship and qualifies as he's been resident in the country for years and hadn't previously played for Brazil (although he might even have qualified under the old rules).
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 30, 2007, 09:48:50 AM
Sammy, considering how ye all keep reminding us how thick Tony is and how he has no credibility, ye spend a huge amount of time repsonding to his posts.
What gives?
Very simple, every tme Tony posts lies and shite about me or my fellow fans, I will respond and point it out. If he posts about Spurs or some other shite, I never bother as it's feck all to do with me.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Watcher Pat on November 30, 2007, 09:51:14 AM
Because u mentioned Brazil and Croatia...Can you explain how Eduardo was born in Brazil and plays for Croatia?
Off the top of my head (from memory so I could be wrong) I think he took Croat citizenship and qualifies as he's been resident in the country for years and hadn't previously played for Brazil (although he might even have qualified under the old rules).
So then why can't anyone who holds a Irish passport(takes Irish citizenship) not play for ROI?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 30, 2007, 09:52:24 AM
Sammy, considering how ye all keep reminding us how thick Tony is and how he has no credibility, ye spend a huge amount of time repsonding to his posts.
What gives?
Very simple, every tme Tony posts lies and shite about me or my fellow fans, I will respond and point it out. If he posts about Spurs or some other shite, I never bother as it's feck all to do with me.

Fair enough, however you are the exception from OWC boys, they could explain similarly, but they seem to have taken an unusual interest in Spurs too!
I find it so amusing how Tony can get you so riled up, most people on here put no pass on him.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 30, 2007, 09:53:41 AM
So then why can't anyone who holds a Irish passport(takes Irish citizenship) not play for ROI?
They can if they fulfill the other criteria (either born in the RoI, residency, grandparents or parents) and they haven't previously played for any othert international team.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on November 30, 2007, 09:55:56 AM
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Fair enough, however you are the exception from OWC boys, they could explain similarly, but they seem to have taken an unusual interest in Spurs too!

I have no unusual interest in spurs, id say i post less on spurs than in the liverpool or man u threads
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 30, 2007, 10:16:28 AM
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Fair enough, however you are the exception from OWC boys, they could explain similarly, but they seem to have taken an unusual interest in Spurs too!

I have no unusual interest in spurs, id say i post less on spurs than in the liverpool or man u threads
Its the nature of the posts though.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on November 30, 2007, 10:27:20 AM
what is the nature of the posts? if its taking the piss out of tony i usually do so in a response to something hes written. Its not like he doesnt leave himself open to it - as evidenced by the fact its a hell of a lot more than the owc guys who respond.

any shite he talks about something that interest me i respond with a serious post.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 30, 2007, 10:32:47 AM
what is the nature of the posts? if its taking the piss out of tony i usually do so in a response to something hes written. Its not like he doesnt leave himself open to it - as evidenced by the fact its a hell of a lot more than the owc guys who respond.

any shite he talks about something that interest me i respond with a serious post.

Just find it interesting that the nature seem to be slagging Tony rather that the post. An unhealthy obsession I reckon. Its mainly EG in fairness, although by even saying that he will probably call me gay  ::)
You know what I mean, for every thick thread he starts you can be sure someone from the OWC contingent will reply, without fail.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: SammyG on November 30, 2007, 10:37:12 AM
what is the nature of the posts? if its taking the piss out of tony i usually do so in a response to something hes written. Its not like he doesnt leave himself open to it - as evidenced by the fact its a hell of a lot more than the owc guys who respond.

any shite he talks about something that interest me i respond with a serious post.

Just find it interesting that the nature seem to be slagging Tony rather that the post. An unhealthy obsession I reckon. Its mainly EG in fairness, although by even saying that he will probably call me gay  ::)
You know what I mean, for every thick thread he starts you can be sure someone from the OWC contingent will reply, without fail.

The problem is that if somebody doesn't correct Tony's rants, then people believe them. There have been a number of occaisions were people have quoted storeis about NI supporters, which were actually made up by Tony a few months previously and never happened.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on November 30, 2007, 10:38:41 AM
if i started as many stupid, offensive or plainly incorrect threads as tony id expect ot be corrected/debates/have the piss taken out of me as well.

You are entitled to your opinion, but many people often indulge in arguing with tony - if you notice many owc ones perhaps its because you notice us more, or because we are so often the butt of fearons crap.

And the threads actually started to take the piss out of him are more often than not started by non owc sorts.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 30, 2007, 10:46:02 AM
Sammy, I have no issue when you reply to correct lies about nifans. I would expect you to defend your side.
What I find amusing is when ye post on spurs threads or the likes to personally ridicule him about being thick / fat or the likes.

"if you notice many owc ones perhaps its because you notice us more"

Not at all Nifan, many people on here slag off Tony, but as I said, you can guarantee that one of ye will reply to almost every thread he starts.

That cant be said about anyone else.

I dont want to get into a whole debate over this, my whole point is that its getting a little boring at this stage. Ye dont like him, we get it  ;)

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on November 30, 2007, 11:17:37 AM
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That cant be said about anyone else.

of course it can
i can think of several people on here, who if you where able to lump into a group, would take the piss out of tony every bit as much as owc ones

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What I find amusing is when ye post on spurs threads or the likes to personally ridicule him about being thick / fat or the likes.
The only reason we are aware he is fat is die to the amount of slagging he got on here about it when we joined.
It is actually notcieably a lot less than it was 3 or 4 years ago
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 30, 2007, 11:22:04 AM
Nifan, i disagree but thats straying from my point about the OWC obsession.

I honestly dont see why you are denying it when its being admiitted previously that several OWC boys joined this board to argue with Tony  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Billys Boots on November 30, 2007, 11:30:34 AM
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The problem is that if somebody doesn't correct Tony's rants, then people believe them.

That is just not true.  If folk just read them, had a little giggle/fume and left it at that, he wouldn't be encouraged to do the same thing over and over and over and over and over ....
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 30, 2007, 11:32:51 AM
[The only reason we are aware he is fat is die to the amount of slagging he got on here about it when we joined.
It is actually notcieably a lot less than it was 3 or 4 years ago

Does that excuse personal insults about it?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Chrisowc on November 30, 2007, 11:33:12 AM
Sammy, I have no issue when you reply to correct lies about nifans. I would expect you to defend your side.
What I find amusing is when ye post on spurs threads or the likes to personally ridicule him about being thick / fat or the likes.

"if you notice many owc ones perhaps its because you notice us more"

Not at all Nifan, many people on here slag off Tony, but as I said, you can guarantee that one of ye will reply to almost every thread he starts.

That cant be said about anyone else.

I dont want to get into a whole debate over this, my whole point is that its getting a little boring at this stage. Ye dont like him, we get it  ;)



Ah it's themmuns again... ::)

How many posts have you made about people replying to Tony's posts :-\

As Nifan says there are more than 'ussuns' who riducule Tony in their replies to him.

It is getting boring having Tony's parrot chirping in anytime he gets a bit of stick.  You love him, we get it  ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on November 30, 2007, 11:33:54 AM
i joined this board to argue with tonys rubbish hhn, i just dont see it as obsession with him - ive been involved in countless other discussions on here, and used to frequent the chat room when it was in operation as well.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 30, 2007, 11:45:40 AM
Not at all Nifan, many people on here slag off Tony, but as I said, you can guarantee that one of ye will reply to almost every thread he starts.

That cant be said about anyone else.

I dont want to get into a whole debate over this, my whole point is that its getting a little boring at this stage. Ye dont like him, we get it  ;)



Ah it's themmuns again... ::)
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Themmuns?? If you bother reading the thread fully before spouting out you would see that "one of ye" is referring to the OWC contingent on this board. Which is exactly who we are discussing here!  ;)

How many posts have you made about people replying to Tony's posts :-\

I have made a few when personal insults are dished out. I have also poined out when personal insults are made towards others.
Personal insults arent on and this should be pointed out. However I only seem to be singled out and ridiculed when I point out personal insults towards Tony. Funny that.

As Nifan says there are more than 'ussuns' who riducule Tony in their replies to him.
I actually made that point.  ::)

It is getting boring having Tony's parrot chirping in anytime he gets a bit of stick.  You love him, we get it  ;)

Once again a pathetic attempt to ridicule anyone who dares to confront the OWC boys when they go overboard with T Fearon  ::)

I've said it before that I think Tony talks a lot of shite. I disagree with the majority of what he says, but this doesnt justify personal insults.

Its real bullyboy tactics, a gang of ye pester his every post (by all means defend yourselves when he rants about NI) and then try to ridicule anyone who points this out.




Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 30, 2007, 11:49:46 AM
i joined this board to argue with tonys rubbish hhn, i just dont see it as obsession with him - ive been involved in countless other discussions on here, and used to frequent the chat room when it was in operation as well.

Nifan, I wouldnt say you are obsessed, in fact I wouldnt even generally think of you when saying "the OWC crowd" as you seem to be willing to discuss all topics in a civil and non mischievous way without feeling the need to tow the party line like some notable others.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on November 30, 2007, 12:10:29 PM
Nifan, I wouldnt say you are obsessed, in fact I wouldnt even generally think of you when saying "the OWC crowd" as you seem to be willing to discuss all topics in a civil and non mischievous way without feeling the need to tow the party line like some notable others.

are you coming on to me now ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on November 30, 2007, 12:13:32 PM
Nifan, I wouldnt say you are obsessed, in fact I wouldnt even generally think of you when saying "the OWC crowd" as you seem to be willing to discuss all topics in a civil and non mischievous way without feeling the need to tow the party line like some notable others.

are you coming on to me now ;)

yeah Tony turned me down  ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on December 02, 2007, 06:19:25 PM
Fair enough, however you are the exception from OWC boys, they could explain similarly, but they seem to have taken an unusual interest in Spurs too!

Funny then that I'm a Spurs fan but don't even read Tony's Spurs threads.

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I find it so amusing how Tony can get you so riled up, most people on here put no pass on him.

The sequence is pretty much as regular as clockwork:

1 - Tony posts bullshit about the NI team, NI fans or NI football.
2 - An NI fan posts pointing out that it's bullshit.
3 - Tony's little helpers (that's including you you, in case you hadn't picked up on that) come on to say that the NI fan is an apologist, look at the way he's denying yet another story, obviously wants to cover up sectarianism, blah blah, rhubarb rhubarb.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on December 02, 2007, 06:24:59 PM
Fair enough, however you are the exception from OWC boys, they could explain similarly, but they seem to have taken an unusual interest in Spurs too!

Funny then that I'm a Spurs fan but don't even read Tony's Spurs threads.

Never would have thought you and Tony would have something in common ;)

I find it so amusing how Tony can get you so riled up, most people on here put no pass on him.

The sequence is pretty much as regular as clockwork:

1 - Tony posts bullshit about the NI team, NI fans or NI football.
2 - An NI fan posts pointing out that it's bullshit.
3 - Tony's little helpers (that's including you you, in case you hadn't picked up on that) come on to say that the NI fan is an apologist, look at the way he's denying yet another story, obviously wants to cover up sectarianism, blah blah, rhubarb rhubarb.

He gives the same shit out about Tyrone and Down every year come the summertime. Best just to ignore....
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on December 03, 2007, 10:54:21 AM
Tonys distasteful rants about hillsborough or about an individuals drink problems provoked probably the biggest furore ive seen on this site. I dont recall all those arguing with him saying he should get away with posting crap and be ignored on those occasions!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on December 03, 2007, 10:59:25 AM
Tonys distasteful rants about hillsborough or about an individuals drink problems provoked probably the biggest furore ive seen on this site. I dont recall all those arguing with him saying he should get away with posting crap and be ignored on those occasions!

Dont recall those posts, what was he saying about them?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on December 03, 2007, 11:04:00 AM
The sequence is pretty much as regular as clockwork:

1 - Tony posts bullshit about the NI team, NI fans or NI football.
2 - An NI fan posts pointing out that it's bullshit.
3 - Tony's little helpers (that's including you you, in case you hadn't picked up on that) come on to say that the NI fan is an apologist, look at the way he's denying yet another story, obviously wants to cover up sectarianism, blah blah, rhubarb rhubarb.

Cant agree with that MW. If Tony makes a post that is clearly shite and you point that out, thats fair enough.

Just because we have some disagreements, these are most likely due to us having very different political viewpoints.
It really has nothing to do with being "tony's little helper". If you look through my posts there are more in which I disagree with Tonys statements than agree.

p.s. I've been called lots of things on this board, "tonys little helper" gave me the best giggle. 10 out of 10 for being imaginative at least  ;)

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on December 03, 2007, 11:31:05 AM
Dont recall those posts, what was he saying about them?

Far too much. Even went as far as claiming the massivly discredited sun reports where in fact true and the sun had simply been bullied into retracting them.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: his holiness nb on December 03, 2007, 08:20:20 PM
Dont recall those posts, what was he saying about them?

Far too much. Even went as far as claiming the massivly discredited sun reports where in fact true and the sun had simply been bullied into retracting them.

Oooh, yep I can imagine the reaction that got.
Speaking of Hillsborough, when bothered with the soccer (wouldnt call myself a supporter) my favourite team is the Owls  :)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Square Ball on March 22, 2008, 09:26:28 PM
Someone is not getting any Sunday dinner

Ugly scenes erupt at Showgrounds 
 
There were ugly scenes after Saturday's draw at the Showgrounds
There were ugly scenes after the draw between Ballymena United and Lisburn Distillery as referee Mark Courtney had to be escorted off the field by police.
Courtney and his assistants waited on the pitch for 10 to 15 minutes while police vehicles surrounded the pitch.

Managers Tommy Wright and Paul Kirk had to be kept apart after squaring up and missiles were thrown towards the pitch.

A chair, a bottle and a leg of lamb in a red bag are all believed to have been thrown by angry Ballymena supporters.

The match was a lively affair, with Nathan McConnell scoring an equaliser for Distillery in the ninth minute of added time after United had been reduced to nine men.

United fans are believed to have been angered by the display of referee Courtney, whom they believe should have dismissed Whites goalkeeper Philip Matthews, as well as the two Ballymena players.

They also claim that Whites players made a number of inflammatory gestures towards the United support and did not return the ball to Ballymena after home goalkeeper Paul Murphy had received treatment for an injury.

Jostling at the final whistle appeared to continue in the tunnel area and disciplinary action is likely after the IFA's Disciplinary Committee study the referee's report.





 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony hawks on March 22, 2008, 10:59:28 PM
Great game only in the irish league could you get a meat joint chucked onto the pitch and fans chasing the players down the tunnell. ;D
Title: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: T Fearon on October 12, 2008, 11:14:12 AM
You wait 84 minutes for one Slovenian goal then two come along in a minute ;D

Ayone else see the God Save the Queen banner and hear the renditions of Rule Britannia emanating from the non sectarian North of Ireland support >:(

and what about that dirty little b**tard Evans..should have got a red one and a lenghty ban. Hope FIFA Study the video
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Main Street on October 12, 2008, 01:09:38 PM
I thought you didn't watch NI, Tony?  :o

It was a poor scrappy game lacking any quality and the Evan's tackle was nasty and vindictive.
How he only got a yellow I don't know, the Slovenian is surely out of their next game.

Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: stibhan on October 12, 2008, 01:31:40 PM
For f**k's sake, I DON'T support Northern Ireland but I couldn't give a f**k whether they lose or not.

Honestly, with you it's almost that you think every time they play it's like Carson, Craig and Paisley are fighting against Bobby Sands, De Valera and Wolfe tone in the last battle for control of Ireland's destiny.

edit: freudian slip?
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Main Street on October 12, 2008, 01:38:02 PM
You appear to care enough not to be able to resist to open a clearly labelled thread and state how much you don't care.

Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Orior on October 12, 2008, 02:06:12 PM
Yes we knew it all along, the six counties soccer team are shite.

I hope owc had a good look at what real fans look like. Slovenia population 1.9m, Six County population 1.7m. Slovenia stadium magnificant and full and fans were behind the team and sang for 90 mins. 
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: stibhan on October 12, 2008, 02:07:16 PM
I was opening a thread to make a point... as if clicking three times and writing a few sentences is tantamount to sitting in a television panel about it. the fact that Fearon started the thread might tell you something more as well...
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: comethekingdom on October 12, 2008, 03:48:45 PM


Is it now politically ok to call the team 'North of Ireland'?   :-\
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Orior on October 12, 2008, 04:21:21 PM


Is it now politically ok to call the team 'North of Ireland'?   :-\

They still cant claim Dun na Gall. Try North East of Ireland.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: MW on October 12, 2008, 10:42:22 PM
Yes we knew it all along, the six counties soccer team are shite.

I hope owc had a good look at what real fans look like. Slovenia population 1.9m, Six County population 1.7m. Slovenia stadium magnificant and full and fans were behind the team and sang for 90 mins. 

What an utterly bizarre post.

In what way do you think Slovenian fans are "real fans" and Northern Ireland fans aren't?

Let's take a look at your statistics which you seem to think count against NI fans:

Slovenia population, 1.9 million - full stadium - attendance 12,000 (of which 10% were NI fans)
NI population, 1.7 million - full stadium for last home game - attendance 14,000 (of which only a few hundred were away fans)

Not sure how you think the Slovenian fans' vocal support of their team was any better than the NI fans' of theirs, either.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Orior on October 12, 2008, 10:48:36 PM
I can only report what my eyes saw and my ears heard.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: MW on October 12, 2008, 10:57:59 PM
I can only report what my eyes saw and my ears heard.

 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: MW on October 12, 2008, 10:59:48 PM
Could you possibly explain what that might be?
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 12, 2008, 11:01:51 PM
Youse do need a decent stadium MW, Windsor is a shambles, and it does carry alot of old "bad" baggage.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: MW on October 12, 2008, 11:05:12 PM
Youse do need a decent stadium MW, Windsor is a shambles, and it does carry alot of old "bad" baggage.

You won't get any argument from me on us needing to move away from Windsor to a decent stadium - well overdue.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on October 12, 2008, 11:07:36 PM
The piece of terracing at Windsor Park - below the south stand - where Belfast Celtic's Jimmy Jones had his leg danced upon by Linfield fans in 1948.. has not been upgraded since that day! Surely, there is no 'national' stadium in the world that has not had its terracing replaced  in 60 years!!!!
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on October 12, 2008, 11:10:54 PM
Youse do need a decent stadium MW, Windsor is a shambles, and it does carry alot of old "bad" baggage.

You won't get any argument from me on us needing to move away from Windsor to a decent stadium - well overdue.


Walking on egg shells with this one, but here goes - Where would you build a new stadium?
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Orior on October 12, 2008, 11:20:13 PM
I can only report what my eyes saw and my ears heard.

 ??? ??? ???

They sang catchy tunes? The whole stadium sang. They have a nice stadium. They have ambition.  They're not bank-rolled by a mother nation. Their team doesnt fight with each other. They're supported by the whole country. The whole atmosphere looked homely, friendly, welcoming, unkike Windsor Park.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Maguire01 on October 12, 2008, 11:29:19 PM
I can only report what my eyes saw and my ears heard.

 ??? ??? ???

They sang catchy tunes? The whole stadium sang. They have a nice stadium. They have ambition.  They're not bank-rolled by a mother nation. Their team doesnt fight with each other. They're supported by the whole country. The whole atmosphere looked homely, friendly, welcoming, unkike Windsor Park.

Eh, how good is your Slovenian? They could have been singing anything! If you couldn't hear what NI fans were singing and didn't hold any significance to the Union Jack or 'NI' flag, would you notice any difference from watching the TV?

I didn't see the programme - maybe they have a nice stadium - as has been siad, it wouldn't be hard to better Windsor Park.

I'm not an NI fan, but surely such 'observations' are clutching at straws(?)
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: MW on October 12, 2008, 11:29:36 PM
I can only report what my eyes saw and my ears heard.

 ??? ??? ???

They sang catchy tunes? The whole stadium sang. They have a nice stadium. They have ambition.  They're not bank-rolled by a mother nation. Their team doesnt fight with each other. They're supported by the whole country. The whole atmosphere looked homely, friendly, welcoming, unkike Windsor Park.

You're flip-flopping about all over the place here.

Why would "having a nice stadium" make Slovenia fans "real fans" and the lack thereof make NI fans "not real fans" ???

Why would "the team fighting with each other" or not mean one set of fans "real fans" and another set "not real fans" ??? (have you been keeping tabs on the Slovenian squad, by the way?)

What were you trying to get at with the population figures on the last page ???

As for the atmosphere, I actually don't see how it was much removed from what you'd get at a NI game. And in fact NI fans played no small part in the atmosphere last night.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: MW on October 12, 2008, 11:32:19 PM
Youse do need a decent stadium MW, Windsor is a shambles, and it does carry alot of old "bad" baggage.

You won't get any argument from me on us needing to move away from Windsor to a decent stadium - well overdue.


Walking on egg shells with this one, but here goes - Where would you build a new stadium?


Actually, I haven't got a hard and fast answer to that one. I'd prefer a 'city centre' venue but don't quite know whether there's a viable option. I wouldn't be totally averse to the Maze, but the most important factor for me is the size being right - look at how the Slovenian stadium (seating 12,000) helped to generate a good atmosphere.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Orior on October 12, 2008, 11:45:15 PM
Aplogies for flip-flopping.

But owc try to tell me that WP is a neutral, pleasant place. Its not. Its hostile if you're a nationalist.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Orior on October 12, 2008, 11:48:02 PM
MW, maybe you can tell me this - why do i hope that owc get stuffed by San Marino? Am I just a bigot? What makes me want to think like that?
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: MW on October 12, 2008, 11:59:37 PM
Aplogies for flip-flopping.

But owc try to tell me that WP is a neutral, pleasant place. Its not. Its hostile if you're a nationalist.

In what way?

BTW, do you know how a Slovenia home game might be perceived by, say, a member of that country's Hungarian or Italian ethnic/national minorities? Or a Serb?
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: ONeill on October 13, 2008, 12:05:56 AM
Orior, I know a wee bit of Slovenian from living in Portrush. One of their songs was 'Your best player's a Sunderland sub'. I thought that was distasteful and you wouldn't find Ulster singing that.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: MW on October 13, 2008, 12:07:57 AM
MW, maybe you can tell me this - why do i hope that owc get stuffed by San Marino? Am I just a bigot? What makes me want to think like that?


Since I can't read your mind, you'll have to tell me, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Rav67 on October 13, 2008, 12:15:01 AM

They sang catchy tunes?

Give owc fans some credit, can't fault them for not having some catchy chants the Healy one is brilliant!
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: supersub on October 13, 2008, 01:28:13 AM
anyone actually watch the match here..how'd ryan mcgivern play when he came on? apart from the fact they conceeded two goals   :-\
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: T Fearon on October 13, 2008, 09:06:30 AM
I watched the match (well I'm paying for setanta, had fcuk all else to do). Slovenia looked like Lisburn Distillery and played like them as well yet they exposed the 6 county team for what they are...a bunch of hammer throwers.

As Souness and O'Neill soon realised any defence pivoted by Aaron Hughes is always likely to concede goals.

But the most distrubing thing was the nasty fool by Evans (obviously well schooled by the Keane)
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: full back on October 13, 2008, 09:34:54 AM
I watched the match (well I'm paying for setanta, had fcuk all else to do). Slovenia looked like Lisburn Distillery and played like them as well yet they exposed the 6 county team for what they are...a bunch of hammer throwers.

 :D
Why the fcuk are they a bunch of hammer throwers
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: T Fearon on October 13, 2008, 09:38:22 AM
Because they are distinctly lacking in the folliwing basic constituents of a good soccer side:

Skill,Intelligence, Refinement, teeamwork, and tactical know how.


I hear they have a new song as well

"We're only making plans for Nigel
He's got his future in the Blue Square Premier League!" :D
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: ziggysego on October 13, 2008, 09:45:44 AM
Orior, I know a wee bit of Slovenian from living in Portrush. One of their songs was 'Your best player's a Sunderland sub'. I thought that was distasteful and you wouldn't find Ulster singing that.

 :D
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: nifan on October 13, 2008, 09:49:54 AM
Was at a wedding so only got to see the last 20 mins.
Awful goals to concede.
Lucky not to lose two men either - mccartney and evans both could have walked.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: stiffler on October 13, 2008, 09:52:39 AM
Has anyone any links to said challenges?
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: ziggysego on October 13, 2008, 10:02:20 AM
Was at a wedding so only got to see the last 20 mins.
Awful goals to concede.
Lucky not to lose two men either - mccartney and evans both could have walked.

A lot of weddings this weekend. Gerry, you and me. Wonder if wany of us were at the same wedding?
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: nifan on October 13, 2008, 10:09:59 AM
I was in derry, reception in donegal
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: nifan on October 13, 2008, 10:11:39 AM
Their team doesnt fight with each other.

D'you remember Zahovic. Most of his fights where with management but he had a few pops at team mates as well.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: Billys Boots on October 13, 2008, 10:31:22 AM
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D'you remember Zahovic.

I do, he had the serious hots for himself.  ::)
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: ziggysego on October 13, 2008, 11:15:27 AM
I was in derry, reception in donegal

A Beragh wedding, reception in Newry.
Title: Re: Slovenia 2 North of Ireland 0
Post by: full back on October 13, 2008, 11:24:41 AM
I was in derry, reception in donegal

A Beragh wedding, reception in Newry.

Where in Newry ziggy?
Any good?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on October 13, 2008, 11:25:19 AM
Canal Court. Was good craic full back. Danced the bit out, wasn't off the floor until near 3am.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: full back on October 13, 2008, 11:28:28 AM
Was the grub still first class?
Hope you left the floor to watch the 'big game' ?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on October 13, 2008, 11:32:25 AM
Couldn't beat the grub. Great stuff. To be honest, I forgot that game was even on.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on October 13, 2008, 04:29:56 PM
I believe the IFA have just terminated Howard Wells' contract today ... hasn't he already taken them to an Industrial Tribunal?  Looking forward to the court case on this one
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on October 13, 2008, 04:32:01 PM
I believe the IFA have just terminated Howard Wells' contract today ... hasn't he already taken them to an Industrial Tribunal?  Looking forward to the court case on this one
Just heard that.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on October 13, 2008, 04:36:30 PM
I believe the IFA have just terminated Howard Wells' contract today ... hasn't he already taken them to an Industrial Tribunal?  Looking forward to the court case on this one

The OWCers will be singing and dancing tonight.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 13, 2008, 04:39:20 PM
They don't want an Englishman, Celtic player or anyone else who isn;t an Ulster Protestant about the place. >:(

I hope Mr Wells spills the beans on the rotten modus operandi of this so called sporting organisaton
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on October 13, 2008, 04:42:06 PM
Youve changed your tune, you had many a choice word about Wells being an Englishman when he was hired :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Donagh on October 13, 2008, 05:14:57 PM
Why is he so disliked?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on October 13, 2008, 05:16:06 PM
Why is he so disliked?

Well Wells said in August that he was be discriminated against because he's English. Go figure!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on October 13, 2008, 05:19:39 PM
He was verbally abused by a 'fan' in a Belfast pub, about 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on October 13, 2008, 05:22:04 PM
For all their union jacks, rule britannias and god save the queens, they don't seem to like the very thing they want to be
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on October 13, 2008, 05:34:24 PM
Nothing to do with the fact he is english, simply due to his reign the fans see themselves as being fleeced.
He also talked shite over the maze, promised to keep fans informed and did nothing of the sort.

Nothing to do with being english - the fans where delighted to see him after the debacle that was Bowen, but he hasnt lived up to the hype
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: fred the red on October 13, 2008, 05:38:45 PM
Nothing to do with the fact he is english, simply due to his reign the fans see themselves as being fleeced.
He also talked shite over the maze, promised to keep fans informed and did nothing of the sort.

Nothing to do with being english - the fans where delighted to see him after the debacle that was Bowen, but he hasnt lived up to the hype

Fleeced by who?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on October 13, 2008, 05:41:55 PM
Fleeced by the IFA - wells and jeff wilson (the marketing guy) receive most of the blame.
Ticket prices, supporters schemes etc etc etc.

People where happy for the IFA to become more professional, but ticket prices for friendlies etc have gone up by ridiculous amounts.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on October 13, 2008, 06:13:54 PM
Nothing to do with the fact he is english, simply due to his reign the fans see themselves as being fleeced.
He also talked shite over the maze, promised to keep fans informed and did nothing of the sort.

Nothing to do with being english - the fans where delighted to see him after the debacle that was Bowen, but he hasnt lived up to the hype

Er, was the reason for the case taken against the IFA not based purely on racism, i.e anti-English remarks made to him by kennedy and a few of the other gulpins at the IFA?  S'pose it makes a change from sectarianism as far as the IFA is concerned.  If you think Wells was bad, I believe kennedy has been appointed to his post on a temporary basis ... great, you'll have that great man of words doing two jobs for you very badly, as opposed to one :P
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on October 13, 2008, 07:55:10 PM
Fleeced by the IFA - wells and jeff wilson (the marketing guy) receive most of the blame.
Ticket prices, supporters schemes etc etc etc.

People where happy for the IFA to become more professional, but ticket prices for friendlies etc have gone up by ridiculous amounts.
I don't doubt you on the higher prices etc. Did they waste the money gathered?
Howard seemed to think that it would take around 20k? fans at a game just to break even.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Chrisowc on October 13, 2008, 08:08:44 PM
Fleeced by the IFA - wells and jeff wilson (the marketing guy) receive most of the blame.
Ticket prices, supporters schemes etc etc etc.

People where happy for the IFA to become more professional, but ticket prices for friendlies etc have gone up by ridiculous amounts.
I don't doubt you on the higher prices etc. Did they waste the money gathered?
Howard seemed to think that it would take around 20k? fans at a game just to break even.

Not only ticket prices but also an 'admin' charge per each ticket in the block booking scheme even though only one credit/debit card transaction has taken place. 

Admin fees for away tickets despite these being produced by the other association.  Oh, and he let slip to a fan off the record that the so called admin charge fell outside the IFA's contract with the bloos and therefore they didn't have to pay out 15%.

His lies and spin around the new stadium debacle hasn't helped either.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Donagh on October 13, 2008, 08:25:10 PM
But I seem to remember so many millions being given by the Brits on condition that someone like Wells came in and restructured things. Did this happen?

Then there was the multi-million £ Sky deal. Was the IFA not broke before this due to previous mismanagement and a big payoff to some previous fella?

Did he not manage to get Sunday football despite the objection of the Orange Order types that abound in theh IFA?

Seems to me that Wells has dragged the IFA out of the Dark Ages and it's no coincidence his appointment coincides with the most successful period yez have had in 20 or 30 years.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on October 13, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
Donagh, he certainly was more professional in some respects - but being better than Bowen was hardly much of an achievement. Getting rid of Bown was an achievement, only problem was he walked with a huge pay off rather than sacked for incompetence.

I think the success on the pitch had little to do with changes wells made, the improvements like sky tv etc where much more down to the success on the pitch and the FFA improvements than wells.

I dont think the restructuring was done to get the money - if it was it certainly took a lot longer than it was supposed to.

I dont like him for his attitude and outright lies he told to me and others.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Bensars on October 13, 2008, 08:51:24 PM
They cant really complain about the ticket prices. The IFA ( going by radio reports this evening ) are facing an annual shortfall of £ 300,000. With a capacity at of 12,000 or whatever it is, you will always be up against it. Apparrently ( once again from radio journalists ) he tried to make the outfit more professional. The reality was that he had to knock a few heads together and resulted in rubbing the old tie brigade up the wrong way. That along with a discrimination case ( which apparently he win, or to be announced he win) left him a sitting duck.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Hurler on the Bitch on October 13, 2008, 10:19:50 PM
Northern Ireland Masons United 1 - English Mason 0
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on October 14, 2008, 12:21:17 AM
I don't know the inns and outs of the discrimination case but on the surface it sounds farcical.
You'd expect your CEO to be the main backstabbing kant, immune to perceived taunts.
I'd expect they will have to pay off Wells.
It's probably just another coup by some ambitious IFA blazer who funding his path to the top job with fans money.


 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 14, 2008, 09:23:23 AM
I have said it before and I'll say it again, it is time for a major investigation into the IFA's affairs before another penny of public money is wasted. The last fcukwit walked out with £500,000 of taxpayers money in his pocket (a payout equivalent to that of an executive departing a  major blue chip company).Wells claims of racism will be fully investigated no doubt and the Tribunals will have a field day, but I would also like an examination of the religious composition of IFA staff etc.

It is clear that this organisation is not fit for purpose and it is long past time something was done about it.

Also UEFA/FIFA need to investigate why the so called international team representing this region remains alienated from almost 50% of the population
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on October 14, 2008, 09:26:30 AM
Do you not still think he is an "english b**tard" tony?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on October 14, 2008, 01:24:03 PM
Is that so?   £1/2m of public money went to pay off the last IFA CEO?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on October 14, 2008, 10:21:35 PM
Is that so?   £1/2m of public money went to pay off the last IFA CEO?

No.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: fred the red on October 15, 2008, 02:05:49 PM
big game tonite for owc!!


Pete snoddons gonna be calling out the names and everything!!!


them tickets must be like gold dust to see all the stars in action!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on October 15, 2008, 02:24:49 PM
do you go to games to watch stars?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on October 15, 2008, 03:40:45 PM
If it's nighttime, you might be looking to the heavens yourself nifan.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on October 15, 2008, 10:37:00 PM
Yes. 4-0. Come on the boys. Raging I couldn't make it though.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on October 15, 2008, 11:00:54 PM
Good result, but it has to be said san marino where like a pub team. Still we have lost games like this in the past so its good to get.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: heganboy on October 16, 2008, 12:35:50 PM
so I took a bunch of yanks to the game in Windsor Park and they couldn't have enjoyed it more, atmosphere great, family friendly, songs, goals chants all the works.
"Are you england in disguise?" was quite good
Good time had by all and even a few purchases made at the stall after the game. Crowd were great

Funny parts:
"you're just a small part of italy" broke out- couple of foreigners had the balls to respond "you're just a small part of Ireland"
one big fella trying to explain the offside rule to one of the americans.
went to the seats we had tickets for only to be told by the incumbents that "we were told to sit here" and who wouldn't move...
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: heganboy on October 16, 2008, 12:36:58 PM
ps just wanted to clarify that there wasn't a hint of a sectarian remark, comment or chant
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on October 16, 2008, 01:28:48 PM
Quote
went to the seats we had tickets for only to be told by the incumbents that "we were told to sit here" and who wouldn't move...

Still always a problem at windsor, particularly the kop, where people want to sit further back for the better view.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: fred the red on October 16, 2008, 05:57:22 PM
Quote
went to the seats we had tickets for only to be told by the incumbents that "we were told to sit here" and who wouldn't move...

Still always a problem at windsor, particularly the kop, where people want to sit further back for the better view.

Can the stewards not help you with this??
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: heganboy on October 16, 2008, 06:22:15 PM

Can the stewards not help you with this??


no we did speak to the chief steward, but no joy
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on October 16, 2008, 11:25:13 PM

Can the stewards not help you with this??


no we did speak to the chief steward, but no joy

Eventsec are about as much use as a ('The Thick of It' quote time...) marzipan dildo.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: fred the red on February 05, 2009, 08:55:36 PM
Norn iron online megastore selling Republican books shocker!!



http://www.irishfa.com/megastore/product.php?p=40114435 (http://www.irishfa.com/megastore/product.php?p=40114435)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on February 05, 2009, 10:01:36 PM
Until the IFA divest itself from these overt connections to republican terrorist outfits, I for one will consider that dastardly organisation unfit to be worthy of the one wee step for peace and reconciliation in our Island.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: saffron sam2 on February 06, 2009, 08:34:42 AM
Sinn fein in football boots. :)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on February 06, 2009, 09:19:50 AM
Quote
Norn iron online megastore selling Republican books shocker!!


FFA has gone into overdrive
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 06, 2009, 12:00:38 PM
Sinn fein in football boots. :)
Interesting SS2, they will line out 4-4-2,

Goalkeeper - Sue Ramsey, I mean no man in his right mind is going to shoot at her.
Left back - Catriona Ruane, solid enough team player, but reputation for own goals.
Centre Half - Gerry Kelly (C), the teams libido, sorry libero.   Has great experience of leading a team out of tricky blocks and plenty of European experience.
Centre Half - Alex Maskey, the Ying to Kellys Yang, tough as old boots and a banker to rely on in times of need.
Right Back - Barry McElduff, tenacious dare I say annoying little harrier who never gives up on a cause.
Left Wing - Ruari O' Bradaigh - This was a difficult position to fill as they seem to have moved from playing left wing tactics in recent years so the nod goes to a veteran of many campaigns.
Centre Midfield - Martin McGuinness, no better man to take control of a situation, a calming yet intimidating influence who always plays with a chuckle.
Centre Midfield - Raymond McCartney, knows what its like in dirty situations, ideal partner to his mucker from Derry.
Right Wing - Martina Anderson - nice to look at with some fancy tricks.
Striker - Francie Brolly, the teams principle scorer (after Gerry Kelly obviously), sired Dungiven's finest (sorry Quiggy) so has to be in the blood.  Also guaranteed to bring along the guitar on the bus for away games so gets the nod for his craic alone.
Striker - Aengus O'Snodaigh, a good friend of Gaza's so has to be a decent player.

Manager/President/Strategist - Gerry Adams, don't be deceived by the pipe and slippers, this man has decades of experience but apparently never kicked a ball.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Chrisowc on February 06, 2009, 12:34:12 PM
Excellent Doogie.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on February 06, 2009, 01:18:31 PM
I'd hope that it was Caoimhín O Caoláin's disciplinary record (while playing for the Dáil) that ruled him out of contention rather than any Monaghan bias.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 06, 2009, 01:22:06 PM
Monaghan?  Where did he get that fecking accent then MS?

This team like SF is a 32 county team so no bias is shown to anyone,
I think I will call them 'Parity of es-team'
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on February 06, 2009, 01:57:24 PM
Monaghan?  Where did he get that fecking accent then MS?
A lifetime of sniffing mushrooms and chicken shíte does strange things to the vocals.

You need a man who takes no prisoners, to watch the back of your midfield general, a man who will without question take the slings and arrows fired into the back of Marty.
McCartney might be your man but Caomhin has some cred, slugging away for years in a hostile environment.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 08, 2009, 03:29:03 PM
Kyle Laugherty out for the wee six.

Lafferty to miss N Ireland match 
World Cup qualifier: Northern Ireland v Slovakia

Kyle Lafferty has been ruled out of Northern Ireland's World Cup qualifier against Slovakia with a knee injury.

The 21-year-old underwent a scan on the injury he sustained during the 1-1 draw with Poland and was then assessed by the team's medical staff on Tuesday.

It was decided not to take any risks with the player's fitness and the striker has therefore been withdrawn from the squad for Wednesday's game.

Lafferty will return immediately to his club, Glasgow Rangers.

Lafferty sustained the injury during the second half in Poland, in which he scored after 37 minutes of the first half.

With Warren Feeney also missing through injury, Burnley striker Martin Paterson is set to partner David Healy in attack.

The rest of the starting line-up is likely to be unchanged.


 606: DEBATE
Wednesday is going to be one of the biggest most special nights at Windsor in decades 
 :D ;D :D
Derek-NI


Accrington Stanley striker Billy Kee has been called into the squad.

Meanwhile West Bromwich Albion winger Chris Brunt has joined up with the squad in Belfast after missing the game in Poland because of a calf injury.

Defender Chris Baird is also back in the panel after serving a one-match suspension but striker Andrew Little and Sunderland player George McCartney are still absent.

Kee impressed while playing for the Northern Ireland Elite squad at the recent Milk Cup tournament and was part of the Under-21 panel which lost 2-0 to the Czech Republic in a European Championship qualifying game on Friday night.

 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 09, 2009, 09:43:41 PM
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Just thought I'd get in there before Tony.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Galwaybhoy on September 09, 2009, 09:54:39 PM
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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Just thought I'd get in there before Tony.

Maybe you should wait until we qualify before you start to gloat. :-\
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on September 09, 2009, 09:57:22 PM
Bit disappointed at the way McGinn was treated, he seemed to come in for a fair bit of stick from the supporters there near the end.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 09, 2009, 10:24:47 PM
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Just thought I'd get in there before Tony.

Maybe you should wait until we qualify before you start to gloat. :-\

Galwaybhoy, this has no relevance to Irelands qualification - just a good aul slagging is all.  ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 09, 2009, 10:44:09 PM
OWC have closed their discussion forum to non members, tonight you can't even view the topics!!  :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Galwaybhoy on September 09, 2009, 10:46:45 PM
OWC have closed their discussion forum to non members, tonight you can't even view the topics!!  :D

sore losers.  Also what an odd website, closing the discussion forums over a loss, you'd think they would be well used to it by this stage.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on September 09, 2009, 10:51:59 PM
norn iron have improved under Worthington (after a shakey enough start).

The team will always be second rate at best though for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on September 09, 2009, 11:06:50 PM
OWC have closed their discussion forum to non members, tonight you can't even view the topics!!  :D

sore losers.  Also what an odd website, closing the discussion forums over a loss, you'd think they would be well used to it by this stage.

I posted that I was wondering if wee marty would pull the pin on posting when the game was on, I think he must be getting a bit better, it appears he waited until the game was over before he banned people  from posting, good man marty, thats progress as the man says.  :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on September 09, 2009, 11:12:12 PM
Which 6 county players would get on the Ireland team?

Davis.
Any others?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on September 09, 2009, 11:13:18 PM
Which 6 county players would get on the Ireland team?

Davis.
Any others?

Jonny Evans would start.

Brunt, Hughes and Lafferty would make the squad.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on September 09, 2009, 11:20:28 PM
Surely not Hughes and Lafferty!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on September 09, 2009, 11:23:07 PM
Surely not Hughes and Lafferty!


Hughes would be a better option than McShane...Lafferty would probably be in instead of Best.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: gawa316 on September 10, 2009, 12:01:35 AM
Bit disappointed at the way McGinn was treated, he seemed to come in for a fair bit of stick from the supporters there near the end.

Don't know what you heard but I was there and that is balls. He got cheered when he came on and applauded several times when he hit crossbar, had a couple or runs.

As for the result, very disappointed. The Slovaks took there chances and we couldn't get the goal when we had them penned in at the start of the second half.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on September 10, 2009, 12:07:12 AM
The OWC close their site to members only, just because of the extra traffic and maybe to keep away some unwanted traffic like GDA's shameful gloating. ;D

How many times was Jackie struck in the heart with a dagger?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: town lad on September 10, 2009, 12:13:02 AM
stew that was a total lie.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Roger on September 10, 2009, 12:49:22 AM
Bit disappointed at the way McGinn was treated, he seemed to come in for a fair bit of stick from the supporters there near the end.
That couldn't be farther from the truth.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on September 10, 2009, 12:57:18 AM
Bit disappointed at the way McGinn was treated, he seemed to come in for a fair bit of stick from the supporters there near the end.
That couldn't be farther from the truth.
I agree. Where are yis getting the idea that he was booed?
Again, he seemed to do well when he came on. He's lively, always trying to get on the ball. Some strike that hit the bar. A decent wee player.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on September 10, 2009, 01:06:42 AM
I only saw the highlights  - limp performance by NI, some awful defending for both goals.
Slovakia were all set up for a draw and would have been happy if it ended like that.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: tyroneman on September 10, 2009, 09:24:23 AM
I tuned in around the 70 min mark and, whatever the reason, you could clearly hear boos when mcginn got the ball out on the touchline. Only heard them once but clear as a bell.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Clown on September 10, 2009, 09:27:35 AM
surely its time the BBC retired Jackie Fullarton

and also that feckin stupid green and white army chant is hard to listen to with a drum going as well.
drums shud be banned from sporting grounds

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on September 10, 2009, 09:35:53 AM
Bit disappointed at the way McGinn was treated, he seemed to come in for a fair bit of stick from the supporters there near the end.

Have to disagree - McGinn was very well received, particularly due to his willingness to run with the ball( and hitting the crossbar - though if had went in it would have been a complete fluke). There was actually a bit of expectation when he got on the ball.

Dunno what you heard tyroneman, but i dont think it was for McGinn - Id assume it was one of the several times that a slovakia player hit the deck feigning injury when we had the ball.
That happened several times and got booed strongly.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on September 10, 2009, 09:41:07 AM
Slovakia were all set up for a draw and would have been happy if it ended like that.

Not sure - they attacked well down the wings. Man of the match was probably their 19 year old winger - Weiss - who looks like a tricky little player.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Doogie Browser on September 10, 2009, 09:47:34 AM
McGinn needs to leave Celtic in January as I can't see him getting much game time, its obvious he has talent but if he does not get a platform he will go stale, look at Healy now, lack of first team games is really showing.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: saffron sam2 on September 10, 2009, 11:10:18 AM
Surprisingly disappointed for the good guys who post here by both the result and the performance.

Still every cloud has a silver lining and they will no doubted be heartened that the hard liners had another chance to belt out GSTQ and equally to learn that Linfield are now roughly £150K the richer. Certainly softens the blow of the result.

Besides, Cape Town is hardly Millisle.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: deiseach on September 10, 2009, 11:12:34 AM
surely its time the BBC retired Jackie Fullarton

I don't listen to Jackie enough to make an informed judgement, but I find his knack of trying to be objective rather endearing. At the end of the Poland game he wondered whether it was biased to wish for the final whistle. Every other commentator shamelessly cheerleads for the national team. Nice to see someone being the ant-Clive Tyldesley
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 10, 2009, 11:14:57 AM
Paddy Keilty on news yesterday, "yes I've got my ticket for South Africa" - which boys in green though Paddy?  ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: NAG1 on September 10, 2009, 11:26:17 AM
surely its time the BBC retired Jackie Fullarton

I don't listen to Jackie enough to make an informed judgement, but I find his knack of trying to be objective rather endearing. At the end of the Poland game he wondered whether it was biased to wish for the final whistle. Every other commentator shamelessly cheerleads for the national team. Nice to see someone being the ant-Clive Tyldesley

Are you wise? There is no more biased commentator in any sport on any TV channel than Jackie. He is unreal and so sickly its disgusting.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on September 10, 2009, 11:37:42 AM
surely its time the BBC retired Jackie Fullarton

I don't listen to Jackie enough to make an informed judgement, but I find his knack of trying to be objective rather endearing. At the end of the Poland game he wondered whether it was biased to wish for the final whistle. Every other commentator shamelessly cheerleads for the national team. Nice to see someone being the ant-Clive Tyldesley

That's a perfect description for Jackie. Unlike others in the media, I dont think he takes himself too seriously.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Doogie Browser on September 10, 2009, 11:50:58 AM
Jackie is alright FFS, he is a cheesy commentator, Jackie 'full of himself' they used to call him.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nifan on September 10, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
He doesnt take himself too seriously, but hes brutal to listen to.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on September 10, 2009, 12:51:13 PM
surely its time the BBC retired Jackie Fullarton

I don't listen to Jackie enough to make an informed judgement, but I find his knack of trying to be objective rather endearing. At the end of the Poland game he wondered whether it was biased to wish for the final whistle. Every other commentator shamelessly cheerleads for the national team. Nice to see someone being the ant-Clive Tyldesley

Are you wise? There is no more biased commentator in any sport on any TV channel than Jackie. He is unreal and so sickly its disgusting.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Stephen Watson.......

The eejit creams himself around NW200 and Milk Cup times.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on September 10, 2009, 03:25:45 PM
Hard to tell just watching highlights of the game.
I thought the managers comments in the post match interview were poor standard.
Blame everything like  pitch, ref or luck is normal enough but blaming players is just not on in the context of a group campaign which was temporarily but honourably rescued from the ashes.

Going into the game, NI had a weakened team.
They needed a win against a better team.
In theory maybe Worthington could have had a better game plan and paced a more cautious approach and pounced in the last 30 mins when the Slovaks might be more focussed on holding out for the draw.


Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on September 10, 2009, 04:49:28 PM
I tuned in around the 70 min mark and, whatever the reason, you could clearly hear boos when mcginn got the ball out on the touchline. Only heard them once but clear as a bell.

Thats what i hear and what i saw, i had the game recorded, what i didnt realize was that there was a slovak player on the ground wasting time and obviously not injured, I have to give the benefit of the doubt to the norths fans because McGinn had the ball but yer man was acting the maggot and since tey applauded him on to the field it is a reasonable assumption that they were booing the offending slovak player.

It's not as if they dont have a history of giving celtic players stick mind you but in this case I think i was wrong.



Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on September 10, 2009, 06:16:59 PM
Which 6 county players would get on the Ireland team?

Davis.
Any others?

Jonny Evans would start.

Brunt, Hughes and Lafferty would make the squad.


Forgot about George McCartney who would be a definite starter. (although hes injured at the minute).
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: long sleves on October 14, 2009, 09:08:04 AM
Seen on teletext this morning that Celtic winger Niall McGinn will be handed a starting place tonight.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: long sleves on October 14, 2009, 09:26:17 AM
FFS Anyone who is fit and can walk could get on the North of Ireland team ::)

Do you not rate McGinn T Fearon? Paddy McCourt isn't starting tonight. He's fit sure.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Evil Genius on October 14, 2009, 12:29:19 PM
Had the pleasure of talking to young Mc Ginn briefly at Belfast City Airport earlier this year. Explained to him that a lad he went to school with works with my wife and young Mc Ginn was genuinely interested in how he was getting on etc. Seemed like a thoroughly nice lad, no airs or graces etc.

Haven't seen much of him play, but from what I have seen I admire his pace and confidence and his willingness to grasp every oportunity that comes his way to make an impact. Given he was the Eircom league's young player of the year a few seasons ago and he has quickly progressed from the reserves into the first team at Celtic he must be talented and I certainly hope he has a long and successful career at Celtic Park.
So he's "a thoroughly nice lad" and you hope he has "a long and successful career", but only for one 'Irish' team which plays in green and white and not another one*.  :o

Thank goodness the lad himself is not so small-minded.


* - You know, the one which actually plays its home games in Ireland...
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Olaf on October 15, 2009, 09:25:43 AM
Had the pleasure of talking to young Mc Ginn briefly at Belfast City Airport earlier this year. Explained to him that a lad he went to school with works with my wife and young Mc Ginn was genuinely interested in how he was getting on etc. Seemed like a thoroughly nice lad, no airs or graces etc.

Haven't seen much of him play, but from what I have seen I admire his pace and confidence and his willingness to grasp every oportunity that comes his way to make an impact. Given he was the Eircom league's young player of the year a few seasons ago and he has quickly progressed from the reserves into the first team at Celtic he must be talented and I certainly hope he has a long and successful career at Celtic Park.
So he's "a thoroughly nice lad" and you hope he has "a long and successful career", but only for one 'Irish' team which plays in green and white and not another one*.  :o

Thank goodness the lad himself is not so small-minded.


* - You know, the one which actually plays its home games in Ireland...

He had a great game.

Has impressed when given the opportunity with NI.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: wallyman on December 19, 2009, 03:51:49 PM
Any tips going round today?

I missed the boat for the christmas tip!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Gs Man on December 19, 2009, 05:35:29 PM
Defeats for Glentoran, Linfield, Glenavon.....

That'd have been a tidy wee treble....

I smell a rat...
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on December 19, 2009, 09:41:45 PM
Defeats for Glentoran, Linfield, Glenavon.....

That'd have been a tidy wee treble....

I smell a rat...

Was thinking the same myself wen i saw tat, the IL is always a bookies nightmare, i dunno why they even take bets on this league to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tonto on December 20, 2009, 01:06:21 PM
Defeats for Glentoran, Linfield, Glenavon.....

That'd have been a tidy wee treble....

I smell a rat...
Wise up, Linfield and Glens chasing the title would not throw a game (incidentally, Newry only won because of a penalty) and Glenavon have had ZERO winds, two draws and 7 defeats now in their last nine games (2 points from 27 for the mathematically challenged amongst us) so can hardly afford to throw a game (let alone seven!) :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: wallyman on December 20, 2009, 01:08:07 PM
Defeats for Glentoran, Linfield, Glenavon.....

That'd have been a tidy wee treble....

I smell a rat...
Wise up, Linfield and Glens chasing the title would not throw a game (incidentally, Newry only won because of a penalty) and Glenavon have had ZERO winds, two draws and 7 defeats now in their last nine games (2 points from 27 for the mathematically challenged amongst us) so can hardly afford to throw a game (let alone seven!) :D

Yeah, the league is whiter than white  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tonto on December 20, 2009, 01:11:46 PM
Defeats for Glentoran, Linfield, Glenavon.....

That'd have been a tidy wee treble....

I smell a rat...
Wise up, Linfield and Glens chasing the title would not throw a game (incidentally, Newry only won because of a penalty) and Glenavon have had ZERO winds, two draws and 7 defeats now in their last nine games (2 points from 27 for the mathematically challenged amongst us) so can hardly afford to throw a game (let alone seven!) :D

Yeah, the league is whiter than white  ::)
Who said that?

Don't just make things up, makes you out to be a bit of a shit-stirrer. ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: wallyman on December 20, 2009, 01:15:05 PM
Defeats for Glentoran, Linfield, Glenavon.....

That'd have been a tidy wee treble....

I smell a rat...
Wise up, Linfield and Glens chasing the title would not throw a game (incidentally, Newry only won because of a penalty) and Glenavon have had ZERO winds, two draws and 7 defeats now in their last nine games (2 points from 27 for the mathematically challenged amongst us) so can hardly afford to throw a game (let alone seven!) :D

Yeah, the league is whiter than white  ::)
Who said that?

Don't just make things up, makes you out to be a bit of a shit-stirrer. ::)


Surreeeeee, attack the man not the ball !
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: magickingdom on December 20, 2009, 01:16:27 PM
Defeats for Glentoran, Linfield, Glenavon.....

That'd have been a tidy wee treble....

I smell a rat...
Wise up, Linfield and Glens chasing the title would not throw a game (incidentally, Newry only won because of a penalty) and Glenavon have had ZERO winds, two draws and 7 defeats now in their last nine games (2 points from 27 for the mathematically challenged amongst us) so can hardly afford to throw a game (let alone seven!) :D

any suggestions for the linguistically challenged ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tonto on December 20, 2009, 01:19:59 PM
Defeats for Glentoran, Linfield, Glenavon.....

That'd have been a tidy wee treble....

I smell a rat...
Wise up, Linfield and Glens chasing the title would not throw a game (incidentally, Newry only won because of a penalty) and Glenavon have had ZERO winds, two draws and 7 defeats now in their last nine games (2 points from 27 for the mathematically challenged amongst us) so can hardly afford to throw a game (let alone seven!) :D

Yeah, the league is whiter than white  ::)
Who said that?

Don't just make things up, makes you out to be a bit of a shit-stirrer. ::)


Surreeeeee, attack the man not the ball !
I wasn't attacking the man.  I asked you who said the league was whiter than white.  I'm still waiting. ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on December 24, 2009, 11:00:01 PM
Defeats for Glentoran, Linfield, Glenavon.....

That'd have been a tidy wee treble....

I smell a rat...
Wise up, Linfield and Glens chasing the title would not throw a game (incidentally, Newry only won because of a penalty) and Glenavon have had ZERO winds, two draws and 7 defeats now in their last nine games (2 points from 27 for the mathematically challenged amongst us) so can hardly afford to throw a game (let alone seven!) :D

Yeah, the league is whiter than white  ::)
Who said that?

Don't just make things up, makes you out to be a bit of a shit-stirrer. ::)


Surreeeeee, attack the man not the ball !
I wasn't attacking the man.  I asked you who said the league was whiter than white.  I'm still waiting. ::)

This league is corrupt as feck, always has been, Armagh City I am afraid were involved in match fixing several years ago, they lost b 6 in te last game of the season if memory serves and bookies refused to pay out on that result.

Of course linfield have long been the darling of the IFA and the wee Glens have also been called into question on the suspicion of 'funny football' results as have several other teams, mix in the scandal in renting their premises out to known loyalist terrorists and you have a league that is sadly rotten to the core and a slanted governing body that excludes half the population base in the north based on their Religious persuasion.

Sad stuff indeed eh Tonto.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tonto on December 24, 2009, 11:33:13 PM
Stew, as I alluded to previously, I never said the league was "whiter than white" which seemed to be the implication in the post from 'wallyman'.

Secondly, I was responding to the suggestion that the league was fixed simply because Linfield and Glentoran lost games in the same weekend, well guess what... Liverpool and United AND Celtic all lost last weekend too... were they also in on this huge scam?  I mean, Linfield, Glentoran, Glenavon, Celtic, Man U and Liverpool, good bet, eh? :-\

And anyway, suggesting that last weekend was fixed to produce a Glenavon, Glentoran, Linfield treble has the fatal flaw that Linfield and Glentoran have lost almost a quarter of their league games this season and Glenavon almost half!!  On that form all three losing the same weekend was bound to happen (and I can't be bothered to look but probably already has this season...).

I just wish that sometimes people would be able to see past their own prejudices and make informed judgements rather than simply ranting.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: dillinger on December 25, 2009, 12:27:31 AM








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Of course linfield have long been the darling of the IFA and the wee Glens have also been called into question on the suspicion of 'funny football' results as have several other teams, mix in the scandal in renting their premises out to known loyalist terrorists and you have a league that is sadly rotten to the core and a slanted governing body that excludes half the population base in the north based on their Religious persuasion.

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I think you are deranged, keep taking the tablets. Happy Christmas anyway!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on December 25, 2009, 01:44:00 AM








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Of course linfield have long been the darling of the IFA and the wee Glens have also been called into question on the suspicion of 'funny football' results as have several other teams, mix in the scandal in renting their premises out to known loyalist terrorists and you have a league that is sadly rotten to the core and a slanted governing body that excludes half the population base in the north based on their Religious persuasion.

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I think you are deranged, keep taking the tablets. Happy Christmas anyway!

The IFA has games that are fixed, there is no doubt about that, there have been teams that have rented out their property to known loyalist killers, that again is beyond a shadow of a doubt. Ask the average nationalist soccer fan in the north if the feel welcome at NI games and they will tell you no, they don't.

Whilst I was messing about just before I went to Church and posted what i did I knew there was a ring of truth to it, i dont blame the IFA for games being fixed, that is out of their control however they are to blame for the fact that they only cater to 50% of the population in the north. I know they are trying to improve that situation but they helped create the situation in the first place.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on December 25, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Of much greater importance is the decision by the government to review the IFA's decision to sack their CEO, which resulted in him being awarded £400,000 by an Industrial Tribunal. The previous CEO walked out with £0.5m , so IFA cronies do very well when they get the boot.

This is a scandalous waste of public money and I hope also that the investigation extends to examine the imbalance in the religious make up of the IFA's staff, board and executive membership and its failure to engage with 45% of the six county population.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on December 25, 2009, 06:12:43 PM
Of much greater importance is the decision by the government to review the IFA's decision to sack their CEO, which resulted in him being awarded £400,000 by an Industrial Tribunal. The previous CEO walked out with £0.5m , so IFA cronies do very well when they get the boot.

This is a scandalous waste of public money and I hope also that the investigation extends to examine the imbalance in the religious make up of the IFA's staff, board and executive membership and its failure to engage with 45% of the six county population.


Funny you bring that up Tone, when i asked last year about just how many senior executives the IFA have had in their history the usual suspects on here came up with exactly none, considering that Prods make up 50% of the population I would have thought that they would have had that type of representation at the IFA,sadly no, they are 100% Protestant and always have been.
When you think about it, in recent times they have re-scheduled games to the detrement of Cliftonville when they ended up winning the league, that was to suit Linfield, Cliftonville have had to play their home games against Linfield at WP and they were very lenient when glens suporters clashed with Linfield supporters a few years ago.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AFS on December 26, 2009, 05:07:13 PM
Jesus, Crusaders went a bit mental today.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on December 26, 2009, 06:55:43 PM
Jesus, Crusaders went a bit mental today.

Oh Hell no, dont start those God Squad jokes.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: RMDrive on January 08, 2010, 01:42:55 PM
Belgium manager Advocaat rejects N. Ireland friendly
6 January 2010

 
Belgium manager Dick Advocaat (GSM) - Belgium manager Dick Advocaat has rejected the possibility of playing a friendly with Northern Ireland as the Dutchman supposedly wants tougher opposition.

The Belgian FA (KBVB) and Northern Ireland had been discussing a friendly while Advocaat was reportedly under the impression that it concerned Ireland Republic, rather than their northern neighbours.

"We spoke with Northern Ireland and there was the possibility to play a friendly," said KBVB Chairman Jean-Marie Philips.

"Our coach was then brought up to date, but communication went wrong. Advocaat thought we meant Ireland. When in an e-mail he read that it concerned Northern Ireland, he informed us that he preferred stronger opponents."

According to media reports, Belgium have already found a replacement and face Croatia in a March 3 encounter.


http://www.soccerway.com/news/2010/January/07/belgium-manager-advocaat-rejects-n-ireland-friendly/
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on January 08, 2010, 02:12:15 PM
 ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D

And I thought Dick couldn't make me laugh anymore than when he paid £12m to Tore Andre Flo :D :D

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on January 08, 2010, 02:27:36 PM
;D :D :D :D :D :D :D

And I thought Dick couldn't make me laugh anymore than when he paid £12m to Tore Andre Flo :D :D


 :D :D :D :D :D :D

mebbe if he had threw Iris at Dick there would have been a different outcome. ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2010, 12:34:53 PM
Strabane man Rory Patterson called into the Norn Iron squad.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on February 22, 2010, 02:07:07 PM
Does he kick with the right (or left) foot? He has one of those names thats hard to tell.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 22, 2010, 02:08:30 PM
Does he kick with the right (or left) foot? He has one of those names thats hard to tell.
From a republican family no less Tone, get the pen out right away.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Paul Mc Graths Da on February 22, 2010, 02:14:57 PM
Does he kick with the right (or left) foot? He has one of those names thats hard to tell.

Maybe you could google him, see if his eyes are too close together or you could get hold of an interview and see how he pronounces his 'H's.  Alternatively, you could spend the time taking a wee look at yourself......eejit!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Olaf on February 22, 2010, 04:23:22 PM
Does he kick with the right (or left) foot? He has one of those names thats hard to tell.
Relevance? ???
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on February 22, 2010, 04:41:42 PM
Relevance is that no nationalist should be playing for the North of Ireland >:(
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on February 22, 2010, 07:31:21 PM
Does he kick with the right (or left) foot? He has one of those names thats hard to tell.
Relevance? ???

Aha, thought a few of the OWC boys would be sniffing around thte board today after the news about Duffy.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Olaf on February 22, 2010, 09:37:13 PM
Relevance is that no nationalist should be playing for the North of Ireland >:(

What ? The rugby team from the Lower Ormeau Road?


I thought that they were now defunct.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Norf Tyrone on February 22, 2010, 10:55:03 PM
Relevance is that no nationalist should be playing for the North of Ireland >:(

The young fella is going to kick a bit of football, while you continue to pay your taxes and pump money into the British 'machine'.

I'll have a word with him and guarantee you that he'll refuse to play for Norn Iron while your serving time for tax evasion.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on February 22, 2010, 11:18:16 PM
Relevance is that no nationalist should be playing for the North of Ireland >:(

Tony, nationalists are perfectly capable and willing to play cricket :)

Oh, Rory was capped by the RoI at under-19 level*...looking forward to seeing him at the Oval next year :)






*waits for someone to make the link to the other thread...1,2,3...
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Doogie Browser on February 23, 2010, 09:25:41 AM
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Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
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Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
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Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: saffron sam2 on May 14, 2010, 09:45:19 PM
Well done to Donegal Celtic on their play-off win tonight, with Davitt's man Stephen McAlorum getting the winner.

Spoke to one of the DC players during the week and he was very confident that they wouldn't concede.

Had they not gone up, it was the Amateur League for them.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on May 15, 2010, 01:39:09 AM
Well done to Donegal Celtic on their play-off win tonight, with Davitt's man Stephen McAlorum getting the winner.

Spoke to one of the DC players during the week and he was very confident that they wouldn't concede.

Had they not gone up, it was the Amateur League for them.


Well done to Donegal Celtic, they have perservered over the years against all the odds and every obstacle the IFA have put in front of them, hopefully they stick the single digit up to the old boys in power and have a good season and stay up, and go on to have many more seasons in the top flight.

Hail Hail
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on May 15, 2010, 01:50:11 AM
Brilliant.

Up yours, nifan.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bennydorano on October 14, 2014, 10:17:17 PM
Well done NI, flying.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AZOffaly on October 15, 2014, 09:22:06 AM
Can't believe this thread had gone 4 years idle!. Anyway, yes, great start by NI. Nice to see Michael O'Neill making a good go of this job. Seems like a nice lad.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Billys Boots on October 15, 2014, 09:48:13 AM
That was a very impressive result last night. 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nrico2006 on October 15, 2014, 09:54:36 AM
Brilliant result, some goal by Lafferty and he made a cracker of a run in the first half that ended up with him nearly breaking the cross bar.  Love watching him play. 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2014, 01:24:13 PM
Some of them seem to think they have already qualified. They are certainly in pole position in the Group of Dearth.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: gawa316 on October 15, 2014, 05:30:50 PM
Some of them seem to think they have already qualified. They are certainly in pole position in the Group of Dearth.

Might not be there too long, so making hay and all that
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Myles Na G. on October 15, 2014, 05:50:38 PM
Some of them seem to think they have already qualified. They are certainly in pole position in the Group of Dearth.

Might not be there too long, so making hay and all that
Well done the north. Not only did we beat Greece quite convincingly, but we also contributed 3 players and a manager to help our fellow countrymen get a decent result against the world champions!  :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 15, 2014, 07:59:00 PM
Some of them seem to think they have already qualified. They are certainly in pole position in the Group of Dearth.

Might not be there too long, so making hay and all that
Well done the north. Not only did we beat Greece quite convincingly, but we also contributed 3 players and a manager to help our fellow countrymen get a decent result against the world champions!  :D

Always knew you believed in  32 county Ireland
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Myles Na G. on October 15, 2014, 08:12:42 PM
Some of them seem to think they have already qualified. They are certainly in pole position in the Group of Dearth.

Might not be there too long, so making hay and all that
Well done the north. Not only did we beat Greece quite convincingly, but we also contributed 3 players and a manager to help our fellow countrymen get a decent result against the world champions!  :D

Always knew you believed in  32 county Ireland
Perhaps you knew because I've been saying it on this board for about 6 years?  ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 15, 2014, 10:20:07 PM
How long will Michael O'Neill (the man with a Portadown wife!) remain in charge of an international backwater? He's bound to be attracting attention from sizeable clubs in England and elsewhere
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: screenexile on October 15, 2014, 10:24:46 PM
How long will Michael O'Neill (the man with a Portadown wife!) remain in charge of an international backwater? He's bound to be attracting attention from sizeable clubs in England and elsewhere

Jaysus!! I remember you saying something similar about Lennon when he was at Celtic. . . he's now at bottom of the Championship Bolton!!

I'd say O'Neill is happy enough where he's at in the handy group where he's not too stretched!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 15, 2014, 10:29:20 PM
So if an English premiership club came in for Michael O'Neill tomorrow he'd turn them down? I don't think so.

Lennon will be managing in the Premiership soon enough ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 15, 2014, 10:41:09 PM
I'm sensing you are going to jump ship to the underdogs and north of Ireland side Tone !!

Michael Oneill would jump ship in a heartbeat like he did when leaving sc**bag rovers for Scotland!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 15, 2014, 10:43:10 PM
Surely O'Neill left Scotland to join Rovers?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: rodney trotter on October 15, 2014, 10:44:42 PM
O Neill got the Northern Ireland job after his spell with Rovers in 2011, he didn't go from Rovers to Scotland.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: screenexile on October 15, 2014, 11:25:21 PM
So if an English premiership club came in for Michael O'Neill tomorrow he'd turn them down? I don't think so.

Lennon will be managing in the Premiership soon enough ;)

That's not what I'm saying... I'm saying no big club would be looking for him after a couple of good results for Ireland.

The same way no big Club has looked for Lennon after winning a load of trophies against non existent opposition!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 15, 2014, 11:42:24 PM
I'd say O'Neill would jump at any job in the Premiership tomorrow.Yes it is a shame that Lennon getting a team to last 16 of Champions League and beating Barca in the process (something that Man City haven't done and Liverpool certainly won't do this season) has been largely unrecognised in England.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 17, 2014, 11:18:24 PM
I'd say O'Neill would jump at any job in the Premiership tomorrow.Yes it is a shame that Lennon getting a team to last 16 of Champions League and beating Barca in the process (something that Man City haven't done and Liverpool certainly won't do this season) has been largely unrecognised in England.
You're right.  Martin would be off in a shot.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 17, 2014, 11:28:15 PM
You're not wrong.Michael must be on course to do another Sanchez and jump ship to somebody like Fulham
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ONeill on October 17, 2014, 11:30:20 PM
Brilliant to see NI do well.

On the downside David Healy got slapped again in the Europa.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bannside on October 17, 2014, 11:58:21 PM
Michael is a great lad. Played Gaa alongside him just before he left for Newcastle Utd. Would have just played for them on a Sat pm and would be sitting with a few of us later that night for a pint. Very down to earth and deserves to do well.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: dec on October 18, 2014, 12:01:28 AM
I'm sensing you are going to jump ship to the underdogs and north of Ireland side Tone !!

Michael Oneill would jump ship in a heartbeat like he did when leaving sc**bag rovers for Scotland!

Tony has always been a big fan of the IFA team.

He made the pilgrimage to watch them at Windsor long before he ever watched Armagh.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 18, 2014, 06:21:46 AM
Last NI game I was at (with free tickets of course) O'Neill scored two goals in a 5-2 defeat of Austria and he was partnered in midfield by Crewe Alexandra's Neil Lennon!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2014, 09:07:21 AM
Michael was an extraordinary talent. At 20 years of age he was playing alongside Gascoigne in midfield for Newcastle Utd. In his first season he won as many if not more of the many annual supporters clubs POTY awards. Gascoigne was a hateful towards him though, calling him a wee ira b**tard and always trying to put Mickey down. Wouldn't talk to him even.

Michaels best moment was during a vital qualifying match in Dublin. The South needed a point against the North to qualify for Italia 2000. There was little between the teams but the commentator on RTE pointed Michael O Neill out as the outstanding player on the pitch.
He practically ran the show for the North.

Shortly after that he took a severe for of glandular fever and plugged away but it really left it's mark on his career after that. If it hadn't have been for the glandular fever he could have been a superstar. Great to see an upturn in his management fortune.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 18, 2014, 11:02:53 AM
The North and South were not in the same group for Euro 2000 qualifiers.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 18, 2014, 11:21:26 AM
Michael Oneill was a good player alright and I had heard from other lads who played along with him as well as bannside that he was a good Gaelic footballer!
He seems to be a slightly lesser version of the great Martin Oneill in all facets of sport and management! But good to see them both doing well.

As for the six county soccer team
I think they could have a bit of a money spinner for themselves - organise a tournament against all the other non countries like Gibraltar San Marino etc next summer to occupy their time while the rest of us are off at the euro championships !!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2014, 01:25:22 PM
World Cup Qualifiers Tony. Sure the Republic got to the quarter finals losing to Italy ( the winners) 1- 0 in Rome. Scillachi  the goalscorer.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: fearsiuil on October 18, 2014, 01:47:30 PM
Michael was an extraordinary talent. At 20 years of age he was playing alongside Gascoigne in midfield for Newcastle Utd. In his first season he won as many if not more of the many annual supporters clubs POTY awards. Gascoigne was a hateful towards him though, calling him a wee ira b**tard and always trying to put Mickey down. Wouldn't talk to him even.

Michaels best moment was during a vital qualifying match in Dublin. The South needed a point against the North to qualify for Italia 2000. There was little between the teams but the commentator on RTE pointed Michael O Neill out as the outstanding player on the pitch.
He practically ran the show for the North.

Shortly after that he took a severe for of glandular fever and plugged away but it really left it's mark on his career after that. If it hadn't have been for the glandular fever he could have been a superstar. Great to see an upturn in his management fortune.

That accent he has, is that a Ballymena twang or a mixed bag he picked up on his travels.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: laoislad on October 18, 2014, 01:58:41 PM
The South needed a point against the North to qualify for Italia 2000.
WTF ?
I think you mean USA'94
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2014, 01:59:59 PM
Michael Oneill was a good player alright and I had heard from other lads who played along with him as well as bannside that he was a good Gaelic footballer!
He seems to be a slightly lesser version of the great Martin Oneill in all facets of sport and management! But good to see them both doing well.

As for the six county soccer team
I think they could have a bit of a money spinner for themselves - organise a tournament against all the other non countries like Gibraltar San Marino etc next summer to occupy their time while the rest of us are off at the euro championships !!

You seem confused about what country you are from ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bannside on October 18, 2014, 06:33:20 PM
Laoislad you are right. It was Oct 1989 at Landsdowne Rd. The follow up to the "night in November". The world cup was Italia 90 - not Italia 2000. (I missed a decade somewhere). ROI won 3 -0 to qualify but Michael O Neill got MOM.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on October 18, 2014, 06:48:18 PM
Laoislad you are right. It was Oct 1989 at Landsdowne Rd. The follow up to the "night in November". The world cup was Italia 90 - not Italia 2000. (I missed a decade somewhere). ROI won 3 -0 to qualify but Michael O Neill got MOM.

Was this not 1993 , World Cup qualifier ?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: 5 Sams on October 18, 2014, 06:56:54 PM
Michael is a great lad. Played Gaa alongside him just before he left for Newcastle Utd. Would have just played for them on a Sat pm and would be sitting with a few of us later that night for a pint. Very down to earth and deserves to do well.

Met him a few times in the 80s when I was curtin a Ballymena woman. He played for All Saints. Nice fella. Good luck to him. Doing a great job with OWC.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 18, 2014, 07:08:10 PM
Michael Oneill was a good player alright and I had heard from other lads who played along with him as well as bannside that he was a good Gaelic footballer!
He seems to be a slightly lesser version of the great Martin Oneill in all facets of sport and management! But good to see them both doing well.

As for the six county soccer team
I think they could have a bit of a money spinner for themselves - organise a tournament against all the other non countries like Gibraltar San Marino etc next summer to occupy their time while the rest of us are off at the euro championships !!

You seem confused about what country you are from ;)
Last time I looked there was no such country as northern Ireland!!

northern Ireland is up there with narnia, El dorado , Atlantis and middle earth!

Don't think my old muckers were banged up fighting for northern Ireland !!

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2014, 07:17:50 PM
Michael Oneill was a good player alright and I had heard from other lads who played along with him as well as bannside that he was a good Gaelic footballer!
He seems to be a slightly lesser version of the great Martin Oneill in all facets of sport and management! But good to see them both doing well.

As for the six county soccer team
I think they could have a bit of a money spinner for themselves - organise a tournament against all the other non countries like Gibraltar San Marino etc next summer to occupy their time while the rest of us are off at the euro championships !!

You seem confused about what country you are from ;)
Last time I looked there was no such country as northern Ireland!!

northern Ireland is up there with narnia, El dorado , Atlantis and middle earth!

Don't think my old muckers were banged up fighting for northern Ireland !!

You just didn't get caught then? Muckers? we all know muckers that got banged up? silly statement
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 18, 2014, 08:21:51 PM
Michael Oneill was a good player alright and I had heard from other lads who played along with him as well as bannside that he was a good Gaelic footballer!
He seems to be a slightly lesser version of the great Martin Oneill in all facets of sport and management! But good to see them both doing well.

As for the six county soccer team
I think they could have a bit of a money spinner for themselves - organise a tournament against all the other non countries like Gibraltar San Marino etc next summer to occupy their time while the rest of us are off at the euro championships !!

You seem confused about what country you are from ;)
Last time I looked there was no such country as northern Ireland!!

northern Ireland is up there with narnia, El dorado , Atlantis and middle earth!

Don't think my old muckers were banged up fighting for northern Ireland !!

You just didn't get caught then? Muckers? we all know muckers that got banged up? silly statement
Maybe so
But that wasn't the point!
So must say you've given a 'silly reply'!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2014, 08:42:46 PM
Michael Oneill was a good player alright and I had heard from other lads who played along with him as well as bannside that he was a good Gaelic footballer!
He seems to be a slightly lesser version of the great Martin Oneill in all facets of sport and management! But good to see them both doing well.

As for the six county soccer team
I think they could have a bit of a money spinner for themselves - organise a tournament against all the other non countries like Gibraltar San Marino etc next summer to occupy their time while the rest of us are off at the euro championships !!

You seem confused about what country you are from ;)
Last time I looked there was no such country as northern Ireland!!

northern Ireland is up there with narnia, El dorado , Atlantis and middle earth!

Don't think my old muckers were banged up fighting for northern Ireland !!

You just didn't get caught then? Muckers? we all know muckers that got banged up? silly statement
Maybe so
But that wasn't the point!
So must say you've given a 'silly reply'!!

Ok  soccer lover ffs!!  ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 18, 2014, 09:14:49 PM
Michael Oneill was a good player alright and I had heard from other lads who played along with him as well as bannside that he was a good Gaelic footballer!
He seems to be a slightly lesser version of the great Martin Oneill in all facets of sport and management! But good to see them both doing well.

As for the six county soccer team
I think they could have a bit of a money spinner for themselves - organise a tournament against all the other non countries like Gibraltar San Marino etc next summer to occupy their time while the rest of us are off at the euro championships !!

You seem confused about what country you are from ;)
Last time I looked there was no such country as northern Ireland!!

northern Ireland is up there with narnia, El dorado , Atlantis and middle earth!

Don't think my old muckers were banged up fighting for northern Ireland !!

You just didn't get caught then? Muckers? we all know muckers that got banged up? silly statement
Maybe so
But that wasn't the point!
So must say you've given a 'silly reply'!!

Ok  soccer lover ffs!!  ;D
Sticks and stones !! ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ONeill on November 14, 2014, 09:50:14 PM
Romanian b**tards
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Feckitt on April 08, 2015, 11:22:43 AM
Unconfirmed reports that Warrenpoint Town recently played a Irish Premiership game and were not able to bring a single supporter.  No, not even two men and a dog, not 1, zero, nada, zilch, nothing.  Not one single supporter.  UTV & BBC send cameras to every match without fail.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on April 08, 2015, 11:28:17 AM
Possibly posted earlier, but it appears the IFA caused an own goal by:
a) giving the contract for Windsor Park renovation to a catholic firm
b) playing an NI match on a Sunday

And what happens next? The stadium starts to crack.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2015, 11:32:40 AM
What's a Catholic firm? I work for a large multinational owned by a Jew. Do I work for a Jewish firm?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: deiseach on April 08, 2015, 11:33:26 AM
Tony Fearon looked upon Windsor Park and was turned into a pillar of salt.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: deiseach on April 08, 2015, 11:38:11 AM
What's a Catholic firm? I work for a large multinational owned by a Jew. Do I work for a Jewish firm?

In the Norn Iron vernacular, yes. The chipper I worked in for many a summer (you know the one) employed the services of a catering equipment firm called JS Massey. There is no J Massey but the owner reasoned that S Massey would give away what school he went to.

I note they are plain old Massey Catering in these more enlightened times.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on April 08, 2015, 02:38:31 PM
What's a Catholic firm? I work for a large multinational owned by a Jew. Do I work for a Jewish firm?

Ahem... it is a well known building firm from Newry.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2015, 02:43:30 PM
I am being facetious.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on April 08, 2015, 03:16:18 PM
Great word. What other word has all five vowels in the correct order?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AZOffaly on April 08, 2015, 03:18:22 PM
The Clare shout maybe? "AAaaeeeeEEIIIIOOOOUUUU!!!"
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: deiseach on April 08, 2015, 03:23:15 PM
Great word. What other word has all five vowels in the correct order?

Facetiously, sez he facetiously.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Ball Hopper on April 16, 2015, 07:24:08 AM
Abstemious...not that I ever heard it used in a sentence.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AZOffaly on April 16, 2015, 10:53:23 AM
You wouldn't, much.


I'll get my coat.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Pub Bore on April 16, 2015, 02:36:42 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32337139

Stand at Windsor Pk needs demolished
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on April 16, 2015, 10:44:05 PM
Last visit to Windsor Park was six years ago for the IFA Cup Final between Crusaders V Cliftonville.A large section of one of the main stands that day was flooded due to a leaking roof and the section was unusable,though there was no one preventing anyone idiotic enough to sit in a big pool of water.Embarrassing and the  big question was/is how do/did Linfield use the significant funding they receive annually for the upkeep of the "National Stadium" from the IFA?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: dec on October 08, 2015, 08:09:51 PM
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Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyHarp on October 08, 2015, 08:56:35 PM
Looks like they're through!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: muppet on October 08, 2015, 09:00:00 PM
Is that lad Josh anything to Martin?  :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ashman on October 08, 2015, 09:16:00 PM
A wonderful sporting achievement .
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 08, 2015, 09:30:03 PM
We've They've done it!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on October 08, 2015, 09:31:41 PM
Easiest qualifying group ever.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Pub Bore on October 08, 2015, 09:31:52 PM
Well done themmuns
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on October 08, 2015, 09:34:04 PM
Well done to the wee six.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ONeill on October 08, 2015, 09:44:23 PM
Fine achievement. Made the most of a favourable group and fair play to them for that.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: laoislad on October 08, 2015, 09:45:23 PM
Congrats to Orior and all the Nordie posters on here.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on October 08, 2015, 09:47:37 PM
Congrats to Orior and all the Nordie posters on here.

What for?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: give her dixie on October 08, 2015, 09:50:05 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 08, 2015, 09:53:20 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Pub Bore on October 08, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?

Keeping that for France.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: give her dixie on October 08, 2015, 09:57:13 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?

Now playing Queen...... Can't stop me now......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_ulster
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Pub Bore on October 08, 2015, 09:58:37 PM
Congrats to Orior and all the Nordie posters on here.

You're welcome up the Heel & Ankle anytime
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Pub Bore on October 08, 2015, 09:59:49 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?

Now playing The Queen...... Can't stop me now......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_ulster

Fixed that for you
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ONeill on October 08, 2015, 10:02:07 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?

Do they sing that at matches?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: give her dixie on October 08, 2015, 10:03:01 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?

Now playing The Queen...... Can't stop me now......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_ulster

Fixed that for you

As they say in Thailand, Same same, but different   8)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: give her dixie on October 08, 2015, 10:28:38 PM
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Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on October 08, 2015, 10:29:27 PM
Congrats to Orior and all the Nordie posters on here.

You need to change the bait, boyo!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: muppet on October 08, 2015, 10:30:46 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?

Do they sing that at matches?

Good first line for a song that.

No sash or billy Boys,
.........................
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: laoislad on October 08, 2015, 10:31:42 PM
Congrats to Orior and all the Nordie posters on here.

You need to change the bait, boyo!
Only when I stop getting bites  ;)
I am delighted for gawa316 though in fairness. Sound chap and he'll be delighted right now.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bennydorano on October 08, 2015, 10:36:55 PM
Well done Norn & the splitters too i suppose.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
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Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
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What's French for traditional route??
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: muppet on October 08, 2015, 10:55:02 PM
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What's French for traditional route??

Bastareaud.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: rrhf on October 08, 2015, 10:57:35 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
Well done mcginn and the wee north. 29 years is a long time and the guys are entitled to enjoy themselves.  France would be some spot if the south make it as well.  Great night for all ireland. Alles l'irelandaises!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 08, 2015, 10:57:56 PM
Unfortunately finishes 10th July 2016. Thought we might have a quiet 12th next year!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: muppet on October 08, 2015, 11:01:22 PM
Unfortunately finishes 10th July 2016. Thought we might have a quiet 12th next year!

Nor Iron fans might book their trips the wrong week.  ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 08, 2015, 11:03:43 PM
Unfortunately finishes 10th July 2016. Thought we might have a quiet 12th next year!

Nor Iron fans might book their trips the wrong week.  ;D
He's now an ex-Norn Iron fan.

Anyway how many do we need to go to France for us to establish a majority in the North?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 08, 2015, 11:04:31 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 08, 2015, 11:05:37 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
You lot are sticklers for tradition so it would a shame for youse to shun your past now.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 08, 2015, 11:07:01 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
You lot are sticklers for tradition so it would a shame for youse to shun your past now.
If you know nothing about it, say f**k all.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 08, 2015, 11:09:43 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
You lot are sticklers for tradition so it would a shame for youse to shun your past now.
If you know nothing about it, say f**k all.
Now don't be like that.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 08, 2015, 11:10:24 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
You lot are sticklers for tradition so it would a shame for youse to shun your past now.
If you know nothing about it, say f**k all.
Now don't be like that.
Whatever. Maybe see you in France.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 08, 2015, 11:12:32 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
You lot are sticklers for tradition so it would a shame for youse to shun your past now.
If you know nothing about it, say f**k all.
Now don't be like that.
Whatever. Maybe see you in France.
I'll know youse by your noise ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ONeill on October 08, 2015, 11:12:52 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
You lot are sticklers for tradition so it would a shame for youse to shun your past now.

Ah now, that's a shit argument. And it doesn't reflect well on progressive nationalism. If you provide proof those sectarian songs exist in 2015 @ Windsor Park then you're correct .

If not, it comes across a bit plastic and tired.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 08, 2015, 11:15:11 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
You lot are sticklers for tradition so it would a shame for youse to shun your past now.
If you know nothing about it, say f**k all.
Now don't be like that.
Whatever. Maybe see you in France.
I'll know youse by your noise ;)
Your noise too big lad!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 08, 2015, 11:23:32 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
You lot are sticklers for tradition so it would a shame for youse to shun your past now.

Ah now, that's a shit argument. And it doesn't reflect well on progressive nationalism. If you provide proof those sectarian songs exist in 2015 @ Windsor Park then you're correct .

If not, it comes across a bit plastic and tired.
Fair play.  Good point, well made.  No sectarianism at WP these days.  Once we sack off GSTQ, or at the very least sing another anthem alongside it like the rugby, hopefully we will attract more nationalist fans.  I think today's team had 9 out of 11 born in NI, so be good if everyone could get behinf local lads doing well.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 08, 2015, 11:26:57 PM
It'll be another generation before any significant numbers from a nationalist background support NI. Even then it is unlikely to be children from working class areas. I wouldn't let my wains anywhere near the place and I say that as someone married to a prod.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 08, 2015, 11:31:05 PM
It'll be another generation before any significant numbers from a nationalist background support NI. Even then it is unlikely to be children from working class areas. I wouldn't let my wains anywhere near the place and I say that as someone married to a prod.
What exactly do you think is going to happen?  Other than getting to see the best European footballers on their doorstep at an affordable ticket price? 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 08, 2015, 11:34:01 PM
It'll be another generation before any significant numbers from a nationalist background support NI. Even then it is unlikely to be children from working class areas. I wouldn't let my wains anywhere near the place and I say that as someone married to a prod.
By the way, I'm pretty sure plent of kids from working class areas used to attend Ireland / Northern Ireland games in the past.  The  Sash / Billy Boys shite only started as far as I'm aware when there was civil strife on the streets of Belfast / NI.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: rrhf on October 08, 2015, 11:34:37 PM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
You lot are sticklers for tradition so it would a shame for youse to shun your past now.

Ah now, that's a shit argument. And it doesn't reflect well on progressive nationalism. If you provide proof those sectarian songs exist in 2015 @ Windsor Park then you're correct .

If not, it comes across a bit plastic and tired.
Fair play.  Good point, well made.  No sectarianism at WP these days.  Once we sack off GSTQ, or at the very least sing another anthem alongside it like the rugby, hopefully we will attract more nationalist fans.  I think today's team had 9 out of 11 born in NI, so be good if everyone could get behinf local lads doing well.
Good point.. but in the meantime whilst more and more unionist backgrounds  play gaelic sports I think the norn irish gael can row in behind the norn irish and give them their moment in the sun.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: screenexile on October 08, 2015, 11:40:26 PM
Fair play to NI they did really well.

I think Shaftesbury square has been taken over by the GAWA doing the bouncy and asking if James McClean is watching. Not exactly progressive!!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bennydorano on October 08, 2015, 11:41:42 PM
Strange in today's society that there is still such a stigma in a Nationalist supporting NI. GSTQ is the last real barrier imo, it's the IFA's 'no security forces allowed to play GAA' issue -for want of a better analogy. It mightn't make a big pile of difference, bums on seats wise, but it'll help alter a long held perception in the Nationalist community.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: screenexile on October 08, 2015, 11:54:53 PM
Strange in today's society that there is still such a stigma in a Nationalist supporting NI. GSTQ is the last real barrier imo, it's the IFA's 'no security forces allowed to play GAA' issue -for want of a better analogy. It mightn't make a big pile of difference, bums on seats wise, but it'll help alter a long held perception in the Nationalist community.

They won't change it though and I think they have that bastardised England/Ulster flag as well. There's a big discussion on the GAA thread about the GAA not pandering to unionists you can apply much the same argument here!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: give her dixie on October 09, 2015, 12:31:24 AM
After the shite we are going through with the wasters up in Stormont, it's nice to see a bit of good news for a change........
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on October 09, 2015, 01:16:32 AM
I seen the fans at Soldier field and they were brilliant craic, took a dump when GSTQ was being played so no problem there, the game was ket but the fans were brilliant altogether, I only heard one idiot mentioning fenian's and he was told to feck up!

I also met owc's wee Marty that day, he could hardly stand up he was that pissed but he was smiling away and enjoyed himself!

 McLean played for the north at every age group and then, after they spent all that money on developing him he facks away off the the Republic, I can see why they are annoyed at him.

One last thing, the manager is going to be a premier league manager one day, Celtic should nab him when they let Ronnie go.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on October 09, 2015, 02:40:22 AM
I seen the fans at Soldier field and they were brilliant craic, took a dump when GSTQ was being played so no problem there, the game was ket but the fans were brilliant altogether, I only heard one idiot mentioning fenian's and he was told to feck up!

I also met owc's wee Marty that day, he could hardly stand up he was that pissed but he was smiling away and enjoyed himself!

 McLean played for the north at every age group and then, after they spent all that money on developing him he facks away off the the Republic, I can see why they are annoyed at him.

One last thing, the manager is going to be a premier league manager one day, Celtic should nab him when they let Ronnie go.
McClean, seeing as he is born inside the 6 counties, was totally entitled to experience his share of what's going around re football coaching. Seeing as NI born are dual nationals, they are entitled to choose the national team of their identity. If  the IFA choose to segregate footballers access to their extra coaching, a week or so here and there,  then so be it. A selection process based on what criteria I wonder? In that case, then the FAI can set up academy in 3 or 4 locations in the 6 counties  to accommodate footballers of nationalist identity, rather than nordies moaning about a waste of taxpayer's money  coaching footballers of Irish identity.
The mono identity that the IFA represent is the unionist identity but with open arms for nationalists to come in and participate. That mono unionist identity of course does not have respect for 6 county born nationalists who identify with the FAI team.
I wonder  how many of ye nationalist nordies have actually renounced your british citizenship?



Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: gawa316 on October 09, 2015, 02:41:27 AM
Congrats to Orior and all the Nordie posters on here.

You need to change the bait, boyo!
Only when I stop getting bites  ;)
I am delighted for gawa316 though in fairness. Sound chap and he'll be delighted right now.

Ah shucks that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me!!

Delighted is an understatement. Hadn't planned to head home for a bit but I now know what my tax return will be going on!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: dec on October 09, 2015, 03:00:45 AM
Congrats to Orior and all the Nordie posters on here.

You need to change the bait, boyo!
Only when I stop getting bites  ;)
I am delighted for gawa316 though in fairness. Sound chap and he'll be delighted right now.

Ah shucks that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me!!

Delighted is an understatement. Hadn't planned to head home for a bit but I now know what my tax return will be going on!!

How have you managed to calm down/sober up enough to type that?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: gawa316 on October 09, 2015, 07:10:45 AM
The game was on at 11.45am over here and I had to work!

Took a lonnnnggggg lunch but still had to go back
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: theskull1 on October 09, 2015, 09:16:53 AM
It'll be another generation before any significant numbers from a nationalist background support NI. Even then it is unlikely to be children from working class areas. I wouldn't let my wains anywhere near the place and I say that as someone married to a prod.
By the way, I'm pretty sure plent of kids from working class areas used to attend Ireland / Northern Ireland games in the past. The  Sash / Billy Boys shite only started as far as I'm aware when there was civil strife on the streets of Belfast / NI.

Considering the way nationalists were governed in this part of the world (prior to all the 'strife that came about), I'd be surprised if that was a truth. I'd say to ensure distance was kept, the 'keep it a cold house for them' attitude went all the way back. 

By the way ... well done...fantastic achievement for such a wee country like ours  :)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AZOffaly on October 09, 2015, 09:20:19 AM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
You lot are sticklers for tradition so it would a shame for youse to shun your past now.

Ah now, that's a shit argument. And it doesn't reflect well on progressive nationalism. If you provide proof those sectarian songs exist in 2015 @ Windsor Park then you're correct .

If not, it comes across a bit plastic and tired.
Fair play.  Good point, well made.  No sectarianism at WP these days.  Once we sack off GSTQ, or at the very least sing another anthem alongside it like the rugby, hopefully we will attract more nationalist fans.  I think today's team had 9 out of 11 born in NI, so be good if everyone could get behinf local lads doing well.

Well done NI, fair play to them. Congrats to you michaelg, and the other norn iron fans on here. I remember previous discussions on here where people of a certain age, ahem, remember cheering on NI in Spain and Mexico, when we didn't qualify. This tournament will bring back a few of those memories, so well done and enjoy the tournament.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Billys Boots on October 09, 2015, 09:22:26 AM
Well done NI, great campaign and a good little side that no-one will be looking forward to facing. 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: deiseach on October 09, 2015, 09:24:25 AM
Holly, aged 8, from Kent, is all grown up and working for the Guardian:

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Well done, NI. A fantastic achievement. Delighted for the many good lads who have come on here over the years.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ashman on October 09, 2015, 09:38:30 AM
Well done NI, great campaign and a good little side that no-one will be looking forward to facing.


Yes and yes but tbh everyone will want to get them and Iceland .  Be honest .  And ROI too.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: gallsman on October 09, 2015, 10:47:34 AM
Well done NI, great campaign and a good little side that no-one will be looking forward to facing.


Yes and yes but tbh everyone will want to get them and Iceland .  Be honest .  And ROI too.

Iceland's results are no fluke. They've invested a lot into the game over the last few years and have steadily improved the last couple of qualification campaigns. They'll not be easy for anyone.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on October 09, 2015, 11:41:02 AM
Fair play to the six counties and each of their players are to be congratulated. I was pleased to see them qualify with a game to spare.

However my loyalty remains with Ireland because:
1) The existence of an NI team underlines the separation of my country
2) NI soccer flags fly along side loyalist paramilitary flags
3) Their national anthem
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Pub Bore on October 09, 2015, 11:47:18 AM
Well done indeed. Scored a lot of goals and they did the business. Local lad McGinn played his part and i'm proud of him.

I remember 82 and 86 and the buzz was great, even if I was a lad.......

Listening to the radio for the game, and the fans are fair belting out Sweet Caroline and The road to Amarillo.........
No Sash or Billy Boys?
Kind of seems that this is what you would like to hear.
You lot are sticklers for tradition so it would a shame for youse to shun your past now.

Ah now, that's a shit argument. And it doesn't reflect well on progressive nationalism. If you provide proof those sectarian songs exist in 2015 @ Windsor Park then you're correct .

If not, it comes across a bit plastic and tired.
Fair play.  Good point, well made.  No sectarianism at WP these days.  Once we sack off GSTQ, or at the very least sing another anthem alongside it like the rugby, hopefully we will attract more nationalist fans.  I think today's team had 9 out of 11 born in NI, so be good if everyone could get behinf local lads doing well.

Even bigger achievement when you consider that 11 out of 11 of the players are shite! ;)

Joking aside, well done to NI, they were given a kind draw for once and took advantage.  Fantastic achievement to top the group with the scant resources available.  Classic case of the whole being greater than the sum of the parts.  As another poster said I don't think many teams will want to draw them.

Dunno if someone of my generation and background will actively "support" them, but maybe I'll watch from behind the sofa! ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Pub Bore on October 09, 2015, 11:54:55 AM
T'would be a gas if RoI qualified, the two "Irelands" are drawn in the same group, play somewhere like Nice and the two sets of supporters arrive in 40deg heat in mid June.  Mix in a load of cheap red wine and sit back and watch!

I note the final is on 10 July, NI can win the Euros and still could be back for the 11th night bonfires!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: WT4E on October 09, 2015, 11:55:15 AM
Fair play to the six counties and each of their players are to be congratulated. I was pleased to see them qualify with a game to spare.

However my loyalty remains with Ireland because:
1) The existence of an NI team underlines the separation of my country
2) NI soccer flags fly along side loyalist paramilitary flags
3) Their national anthem

Great post! +1
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on October 09, 2015, 12:03:37 PM
Fair play to the six counties and each of their players are to be congratulated. I was pleased to see them qualify with a game to spare.

However my loyalty remains with Ireland because:
1) The existence of an NI team underlines the separation of my country
2) NI soccer flags fly along side loyalist paramilitary flags
3) Their national anthem

No 1 alone does it for me.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: From the Bunker on October 09, 2015, 12:05:35 PM
Fair play to the six counties and each of their players are to be congratulated. I was pleased to see them qualify with a game to spare.

However my loyalty remains with Ireland because:
1) The existence of an NI team underlines the separation of my country
2) NI soccer flags fly along side loyalist paramilitary flags
3) Their national anthem

Remember the World Cup in 1982 and cheering on Norn Iron as an 11 year old. Being so young I did not see them in any political view other than being Irish and really proud with their performances. There was a great mix from both traditions in that squad. And they seemed to gel quite well on the surface anyway? Astonishing considering it was in the height of the Troubles.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: gallsman on October 09, 2015, 12:10:52 PM
I don't understand how someone can take issue with supporting Norn Iron as a result of partition, yet will happily support the Republic. Is it just that it represents "more" of Ireland therefore is legitimized?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ashman on October 09, 2015, 12:40:19 PM
Well done NI, great campaign and a good little side that no-one will be looking forward to facing.


Yes and yes but tbh everyone will want to get them and Iceland .  Be honest .  And ROI too.

Iceland's results are no fluke. They've invested a lot into the game over the last few years and have steadily improved the last couple of qualification campaigns. They'll not be easy for anyone.


Iceland will be whipping boys .  The bottom line in that to the stronger nations international qualifiers are a nuisance .  Come the tournaments they are more focussed and the wheat is seperated from the chaff. 

Club football is really where it is at .
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: tiempo on October 09, 2015, 01:08:10 PM
Fair play to the six counties and each of their players are to be congratulated. I was pleased to see them qualify with a game to spare.

However my loyalty remains with Ireland because:
1) The existence of an NI team underlines the separation of my country
2) NI soccer flags fly along side loyalist paramilitary flags
3) Their national anthem

Remember the World Cup in 1982 and cheering on Norn Iron as an 11 year old. Being so young I did not see them in any political view other than being Irish and really proud with their performances. There was a great mix from both traditions in that squad. And they seemed to gel quite well on the surface anyway? Astonishing considering it was in the height of the Troubles. war
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bennydorano on October 09, 2015, 01:14:30 PM
I don't understand how someone can take issue with supporting Norn Iron as a result of partition, yet will happily support the Republic. Is it just that it represents "more" of Ireland therefore is legitimized?
Me too. ROI represents the ROI, i've never really felt an affinity. The ROI soccer team has never engendered an 'Irish' feeling  that the GAA or even Rugby can generate as 'All Ireland' Irishness - IMO obviously.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: sid waddell on October 09, 2015, 01:28:07 PM
I come from the 26 counties but support the original Ireland team (the IFA team) as I consider them the truer representation of an all-island ideal, given that the IFA is the original governing body for association football on the whole island and the FAI is a partitionist, breakaway organisation.

Ultimately I'd like to see both teams re-united under the auspices of the IFA, playing under a new flag and standing for a new anthem, with home matches at Lansdowne Road.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: dec on October 09, 2015, 01:51:38 PM
Fair play to the six counties and each of their players are to be congratulated. I was pleased to see them qualify with a game to spare.

However my loyalty remains with Ireland because:
1) The existence of an NI team underlines the separation of my country
2) NI soccer flags fly along side loyalist paramilitary flags
3) Their national anthem


The existence of the NI team is because the FAI broke away from the IFA (the original All-Ireland body). If partition is such a big problem for you then you shouldn't support either team.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on October 09, 2015, 03:53:17 PM
Fair play to the six counties and each of their players are to be congratulated. I was pleased to see them qualify with a game to spare.

However my loyalty remains with Ireland because:
1) The existence of an NI team underlines the separation of my country
2) NI soccer flags fly along side loyalist paramilitary flags
3) Their national anthem

Great post! +1


I think that is just plain wrong, the IFA was formed before the FAI, it was the FAI that broke away from the IFA, if so it is the IFA that caused the separation between the two.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on October 09, 2015, 04:04:11 PM
Fair play to the six counties and each of their players are to be congratulated. I was pleased to see them qualify with a game to spare.

However my loyalty remains with Ireland because:
1) The existence of an NI team underlines the separation of my country
2) NI soccer flags fly along side loyalist paramilitary flags
3) Their national anthem

Great post! +1


I think that is just plain wrong, the IFA was formed before the FAI, it was the FAI that broke away from the IFA, if so it is the IFA that caused the separation between the two.

You are factually correct. But many other countries don't like the fact that the UK has 4 sets of delegates on the various European and World governing bodies. Change could evolve from that direction too.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: general_lee on October 09, 2015, 04:28:33 PM
Fair play to NI they did really well.

I think Shaftesbury square has been taken over by the GAWA doing the bouncy and asking if James McClean is watching. Not exactly progressive!!!
Singing WATP as well. Near thought Rangers were playing. That said I saw a few clips from Dublin on snapchat and fans were singing rebel songs.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on October 09, 2015, 04:36:34 PM
IFA are original body, but players were rarely picked from the "South" before partition, and games were rarely played in Dublin, but nearly always in Belfast.

So, the FAI formed their own body. Hardly surprising that they didn't want to form an allegiance with because like everything else in the sectarian loyalist gerrymandered statelet at the time (and since), the IFA was a sectarian organisation. And still is.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: general_lee on October 09, 2015, 04:38:44 PM
Fair play to the six counties and each of their players are to be congratulated. I was pleased to see them qualify with a game to spare.

However my loyalty remains with Ireland because:
1) The existence of an NI team underlines the separation of my country
2) NI soccer flags fly along side loyalist paramilitary flags
3) Their national anthem


Great post! +1


I think that is just plain wrong, the IFA was formed before the FAI, it was the FAI that broke away from the IFA, if so it is the IFA that caused the separation between the two.
The IFA was always an "ulster-centric" body even prior to partition. Yes it was the original body but it blatantly discriminated hence the need for the FAI to form. I would however like to see the FAI dissolved and merged back into the IFA
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on October 09, 2015, 04:49:42 PM
FAI merging with IFA?

Could you see Billy from the Shankill having a pre match pint in Dublin with Sean from The Falls with a tri colour wrapped around him? It's pure fantasy land, that is, so it is.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: general_lee on October 09, 2015, 04:56:43 PM
FAI merging with IFA?

Could you see Billy from the Shankill having a pre match pint in Dublin with Sean from The Falls with a tri colour wrapped around him? It's pure fantasy land, that is, so it is.
Well I aspire to a unified Irish state and believe that is possible... So I don't see why a new team with new anthem, flag (and colours if need be) wouldn't work. If billy and Sean don't like it they can do one
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on October 09, 2015, 05:07:04 PM
FAI merging with IFA?

Could you see Billy from the Shankill having a pre match pint in Dublin with Sean from The Falls with a tri colour wrapped around him? It's pure fantasy land, that is, so it is.
Well I aspire to a unified Irish state and believe that is possible... So I don't see why a new team with new anthem, flag (and colours if need be) wouldn't work. If billy and Sean don't like it they can do one

I'll tell them you said that  ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: armaghniac on October 09, 2015, 05:43:32 PM
FAI merging with IFA?

Could you see Billy from the Shankill having a pre match pint in Dublin with Sean from The Falls with a tri colour wrapped around him? It's pure fantasy land, that is, so it is.

That's the problem with this kind of proposal. It is always characterised as joining "themmuns", the people you have rows with a couple of streets away. But neither Billy nor Sean are Ireland, and Jim from Banbridge and Frank from Waterford should be able to have a pint without problems.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: andoireabu on October 09, 2015, 06:30:38 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/why-are-the-same-fans-not-celebrating-both-irish-victories-1.2385859 (http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/why-are-the-same-fans-not-celebrating-both-irish-victories-1.2385859)

Good article showing the opinion in Belfast
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Line Ball on October 09, 2015, 07:49:51 PM
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Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 09, 2015, 08:16:19 PM
Quote from the Irish Times above shows what's important at Windsor Park.

“Lots of Catholics support Northern Ireland and that is certainly the way it should be, as long as they stand for the Queen, that’s all we want to know.”
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: dec on October 09, 2015, 10:39:49 PM
Quote from the Irish Times above shows what's important at Windsor Park.

“Lots of Catholics support Northern Ireland and that is certainly the way it should be, as long as they stand for the Queen, that’s all we want to know.”

No, it shows what is important for one Shankill Road Loyalist.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 09, 2015, 10:41:42 PM
Quote from the Irish Times above shows what's important at Windsor Park.

“Lots of Catholics support Northern Ireland and that is certainly the way it should be, as long as they stand for the Queen, that’s all we want to know.”

No, it shows what is important for one Shankill Road Loyalist.
The article said he was speaking in an official capacity representing all Northern Ireland fans.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bennydorano on October 09, 2015, 10:59:42 PM
Yer hole, 72 yr old stove from the Shankill NI supporters club.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 09, 2015, 11:17:38 PM
Yer hole, 72 yr old stove from the Shankill NI supporters club.
Are you saying a sample of 1 isn't a representative cross - section of the community?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on October 10, 2015, 06:05:00 AM
Easiest qualifying group ever.

Have you checked out England's group?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: omaghjoe on October 10, 2015, 08:01:37 AM
Fair play to Norn Iron and they will defo be my 2nd team in the tournament, if the Republic qualify.

Although the location of Windsor Park doesnt help, Eddie Harrison and his sentiment don't own Norn Iron. Its not exclusive to those guys and that attitude, as I am sure gawa could testify.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: deiseach on October 10, 2015, 09:48:06 AM
Fair play to Norn Iron and they will defo be my 2nd team in the tournament, if the Republic qualify.

Although the location of Windsor Park doesnt help, Eddie Harrison and his sentiment don't own Norn Iron. Its not exclusive to those guys and that attitude, as I am sure gawa could testify.

That is a very generous post. Well done.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Pub Bore on October 10, 2015, 10:35:34 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/why-are-the-same-fans-not-celebrating-both-irish-victories-1.2385859 (http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/why-are-the-same-fans-not-celebrating-both-irish-victories-1.2385859)

Good article showing the opinion in Belfast

I think the photo at the top of the article speaks volumes.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on October 10, 2015, 11:02:17 AM
I've been to 2 Billy Boys matches which makes me a fan. That 72 year old stove doesn't represent me. I'd rather keep the fenian b**tards out, standing for the Queen or not.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: snoopdog on October 10, 2015, 11:05:13 AM
FAI merging with IFA?

Could you see Billy from the Shankill having a pre match pint in Dublin with Sean from The Falls with a tri colour wrapped around him? It's pure fantasy land, that is, so it is.

That's the problem with this kind of proposal. It is always characterised as joining "themmuns", the people you have rows with a couple of streets away. But neither Billy nor Sean are Ireland, and Jim from Banbridge and Frank from Waterford should be able to have a pint without problems.

For the recent all ireland hurling semi final I was on the bus from banbridge to Dublin and at least 10 lads got on with  half of them wearing Waterford jerseys. So they are already having pints together
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 04:15:03 PM
Great supporters indeed:

Up to our necks in Fenian blood (https://www.facebook.com/144469889056805/videos/312585518911907/)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: clarshack on October 10, 2015, 04:20:35 PM
Great supporters indeed:

Up to our necks in Fenian blood (https://www.facebook.com/144469889056805/videos/312585518911907/)

seen that on fb earlier. some of the comments saying it's only a minority as it just shows one pub. :o a minority for me would be 3 or 4 fans in the one pub singing it - not the whole pub.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on October 10, 2015, 04:22:00 PM
What pub is that?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Minder on October 10, 2015, 04:55:10 PM
It's a pub on the Shankill, what are people expecting
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 05:02:24 PM
It's a pub on the Shankill, what are people expecting

And a whole terrace at the game itself singing the 'bouncy song' (celebrating the murder of Robert Hamill in Portadown) - is that to be expected too?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2015, 05:06:42 PM
Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2015, 05:06:53 PM
It's a pub on the Shankill, what are people expecting

And a whole terrace at the game itself singing the 'bouncy song' (celebrating the murder of Robert Hamill in Portadown) - is that to be expected too?

If we look hard enough at any game in the country we could hear something that will offend someone..
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: general_lee on October 10, 2015, 05:15:59 PM
It's a pub on the Shankill, what are people expecting

And a whole terrace at the game itself singing the 'bouncy song' (celebrating the murder of Robert Hamill in Portadown) - is that to be expected too?
Debatable as to whether that song is about Robert Hamill, apparently it dates from the 80s?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 05:51:04 PM
God bless all your innocences if you think that song hasn't been 'rededicated' and that the singers don't know that the Taigs know well what's being 'celebrated'.

Not surprising I suppose (that such is deemed 'expected') when one of their political mandarins talks about having to 'hold his nose' when fulfilling the duties of political office with equally mandated representatives from the 'fenian' community.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: general_lee on October 10, 2015, 06:03:34 PM
God bless all your innocences if you think that song hasn't been 'rededicated' and that the singers don't know that the Taigs know well what's being 'celebrated'.
I wouldn't question there being an element of the support fitting the above description, but the whole stand?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2015, 06:07:17 PM
I don't believe for a second a stand full of people are singing that song in that spirit.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2015, 06:08:15 PM
God bless all your innocences if you think that song hasn't been 'rededicated' and that the singers don't know that the Taigs know well what's being 'celebrated'.

Not surprising I suppose (that such is deemed 'expected') when one of their political mandarins talks about having to 'hold his nose' when fulfilling the duties of political office with equally mandated representatives from the 'fenian' community.

You've a lot of anger in you lad... There are seriously thick bigots supporting certain teams ... But they are clampits of the highest order and don't represent everybody... Even you with your educated background and non biased view on things can agree on that??
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 06:26:55 PM
God bless all your innocences if you think that song hasn't been 'rededicated' and that the singers don't know that the Taigs know well what's being 'celebrated'.

Not surprising I suppose (that such is deemed 'expected') when one of their political mandarins talks about having to 'hold his nose' when fulfilling the duties of political office with equally mandated representatives from the 'fenian' community.

You've a lot of anger in you lad... There are seriously thick bigots supporting certain teams ... But they are clampits of the highest order and don't represent everybody... Even you with your educated background and non biased view on things can agree on that??

Sure, they're not representative of everyone from one 'tradition' or another, but the inexcusable is tolerated far too blithely in Our Wee Two Thirds of a Province.

Not angry, but not afraid to call it for what it is, and in 2015 it's not pretty.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2015, 06:40:09 PM
God bless all your innocences if you think that song hasn't been 'rededicated' and that the singers don't know that the Taigs know well what's being 'celebrated'.

Not surprising I suppose (that such is deemed 'expected') when one of their political mandarins talks about having to 'hold his nose' when fulfilling the duties of political office with equally mandated representatives from the 'fenian' community.

You've a lot of anger in you lad... There are seriously thick bigots supporting certain teams ... But they are clampits of the highest order and don't represent everybody... Even you with your educated background and non biased view on things can agree on that??

Sure, they're not representative of everyone from one 'tradition' or another, but the inexcusable is tolerated far too blithely in Our Wee Two Thirds of a Province.

Not angry, but not afraid to call it for what it is, and in 2015 it's not pretty.

It happens in a lot of pubs during these games... There has been serious inroads made by a lot of good men to change that view and in most times its happened... You will always get arseholes with too much drink and nothing between the ears...

You've  simply tarred them all ... You're not being too clever with that
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 06:49:43 PM
It happens in a lot of pubs during these games... There has been serious inroads made by a lot of good men to change that view and in most times its happened... You will always get arseholes with too much drink and nothing between the ears...

You've  simply tarred them all ... You're not being too clever with that

"Them all", really? My most frequent companion at Tyrone gaelic games in the last year was my Protestant brother-in-law, so I take it you're not saying that I'm tarring him too?

Any naked sectarian edge is unacceptable, totally, but it's actually not the fault of those vacuous morons - they're a product of the environment that our colonial masters have carved out for them. They're behaving exactly as they were designed to behave.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2015, 06:51:37 PM
You are definitely guilty of a pretty sweeping generalisation here...
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2015, 07:12:11 PM
It happens in a lot of pubs during these games... There has been serious inroads made by a lot of good men to change that view and in most times its happened... You will always get arseholes with too much drink and nothing between the ears...

You've  simply tarred them all ... You're not being too clever with that

"Them all", really? My most frequent companion at Tyrone gaelic games in the last year was my Protestant brother-in-law, so I take it you're not saying that I'm tarring him too?

Any naked sectarian edge is unacceptable, totally, but it's actually not the fault of those vacuous morons - they're a product of the environment that our colonial masters have carved out for them. They're behaving exactly as they were designed to behave.

They and they're used a lot in in your posts... But hey your protestant brother-in-law probably thinks differently when not with you at the Tyrone games
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 07:12:45 PM
You are definitely guilty of a pretty sweeping generalisation here...

Yes, those that talk of 'holding their noses' or sing the 'Billy Boys', they're all vacuous morons. If you think that some of those who so engage aren't, please enlighten me as to why.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 07:17:59 PM
It happens in a lot of pubs during these games... There has been serious inroads made by a lot of good men to change that view and in most times its happened... You will always get arseholes with too much drink and nothing between the ears...

You've  simply tarred them all ... You're not being too clever with that

"Them all", really? My most frequent companion at Tyrone gaelic games in the last year was my Protestant brother-in-law, so I take it you're not saying that I'm tarring him too?

Any naked sectarian edge is unacceptable, totally, but it's actually not the fault of those vacuous morons - they're a product of the environment that our colonial masters have carved out for them. They're behaving exactly as they were designed to behave.

They and they're used a lot in in your posts... But hey your protestant brother-in-law probably thinks differently when not with you at the Tyrone games

A very ignorant comment, and you accuse me of generalisations: so why would he think differently when not at a Tyrone game with me?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on October 10, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
Great supporters indeed:

Up to our necks in Fenian blood (https://www.facebook.com/144469889056805/videos/312585518911907/)

Those Protestants... Up to no good as usual.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2015, 07:26:21 PM
It happens in a lot of pubs during these games... There has been serious inroads made by a lot of good men to change that view and in most times its happened... You will always get arseholes with too much drink and nothing between the ears...

You've  simply tarred them all ... You're not being too clever with that

"Them all", really? My most frequent companion at Tyrone gaelic games in the last year was my Protestant brother-in-law, so I take it you're not saying that I'm tarring him too?

Any naked sectarian edge is unacceptable, totally, but it's actually not the fault of those vacuous morons - they're a product of the environment that our colonial masters have carved out for them. They're behaving exactly as they were designed to behave.

They and they're used a lot in in your posts... But hey your protestant brother-in-law probably thinks differently when not with you at the Tyrone games

A very ignorant comment, and you accuse me of generalisations: so why would he think differently when not at a Tyrone game with me?

Ignorant?? You make me laugh... You make sweeping generalising statements about themuns but seem to think your brother law is not thinking the same??

He probably isn't as he may on the extreme off chance be a decent fella with half a brain... Those that don't have a brain will follow crowd.... It happens in both sides... Plenty bomb scares around the place, are they morons??
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 07:33:47 PM
Ignorant?? You make me laugh... You make sweeping generalising statements about themuns but seem to think your brother law is not thinking the same??

He probably isn't as he may on the extreme off chance be a decent fella with half a brain... Those that don't have a brain will follow crowd.... It happens in both sides... Plenty bomb scares around the place, are they morons??

So quote me one of my 'sweeping generalisations'.

Sure, we have our quota of morons too, but this thread is about the 6 county soccer team, and some of you seem to think that no one in the Shankill goes to the games, where they might be inclined to sing the 'Billy Boys' or such like. Let's just call it balance.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2015, 07:42:00 PM
Ignorant?? You make me laugh... You make sweeping generalising statements about themuns but seem to think your brother law is not thinking the same??

He probably isn't as he may on the extreme off chance be a decent fella with half a brain... Those that don't have a brain will follow crowd.... It happens in both sides... Plenty bomb scares around the place, are they morons??

So quote me one of my 'sweeping generalisations'.

Sure, we have our quota of morons too, but this thread is about the 6 county soccer team, and some of you seem to think that no one in the Shankill goes to the games, where they might be inclined to sing the 'Billy Boys' or such like. Let's just call it balance.

Would that be the same for Falls road men heading to a Rangers Celtic game singing 'normal' songs?? Rose tinted slightly, no??
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 07:48:01 PM
Ignorant?? You make me laugh... You make sweeping generalising statements about themuns but seem to think your brother law is not thinking the same??

He probably isn't as he may on the extreme off chance be a decent fella with half a brain... Those that don't have a brain will follow crowd.... It happens in both sides... Plenty bomb scares around the place, are they morons??

So quote me one of my 'sweeping generalisations'.

Sure, we have our quota of morons too, but this thread is about the 6 county soccer team, and some of you seem to think that no one in the Shankill goes to the games, where they might be inclined to sing the 'Billy Boys' or such like. Let's just call it balance.

Would that be the same for Falls road men heading to a Rangers Celtic game singing 'normal' songs?? Rose tinted slightly, no??

Changing the subject, much?

Rangers-Celtic is a whole different brew, not too much glory to be spread around such, in general.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 10, 2015, 07:50:16 PM
Ignorant?? You make me laugh... You make sweeping generalising statements about themuns but seem to think your brother law is not thinking the same??

He probably isn't as he may on the extreme off chance be a decent fella with half a brain... Those that don't have a brain will follow crowd.... It happens in both sides... Plenty bomb scares around the place, are they morons??

So quote me one of my 'sweeping generalisations'.

Sure, we have our quota of morons too, but this thread is about the 6 county soccer team, and some of you seem to think that no one in the Shankill goes to the games, where they might be inclined to sing the 'Billy Boys' or such like. Let's just call it balance.

Would that be the same for Falls road men heading to a Rangers Celtic game singing 'normal' songs?? Rose tinted slightly, no??

Changing the subject, much?

Rangers-Celtic is a whole different brew, not too much glory to be spread around such, in general.

Soccer yobs sing sectarian songs.... Hmmmm there is a minority that does it.. To blame them all is daft
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 07:54:24 PM
Soccer yobs sing sectarian songs.... Hmmmm there is a minority that does it.. To blame them all is daft

Only in Our Wee Two Thirds of a Province, and I blame only those who engage in it, or rather, the politicos that lead them to engage in such. So please stop putting words in my mouth.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ONeill on October 10, 2015, 07:55:25 PM
"for there's no Landan in Tyrone"
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 08:01:03 PM
"for there's no Landan in Tyrone"

Yob!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on October 10, 2015, 08:01:45 PM
What was with all those red white and blue flags. Were they all celebrating qualifying for France 16 or way they being a bunch of bigoted pigs lol.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2015, 08:13:19 PM
It's a pub on the Shankill, what are people expecting

And a whole terrace at the game itself singing the 'bouncy song' (celebrating the murder of Robert Hamill in Portadown) - is that to be expected too?

I was talking about the "bouncy" comment you made. I do not believe the vast majority of those supporters were singing that for any of the sectarian reasons you mention above.

Plenty of football teams out there sing the song. Was there anyone there singing it for that reason? Maybe there was but i don't know that and neither do you.

The billy boy thing is entirely different. Was it in the ground? I'm not sure it was.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 08:27:12 PM
It's a pub on the Shankill, what are people expecting

And a whole terrace at the game itself singing the 'bouncy song' (celebrating the murder of Robert Hamill in Portadown) - is that to be expected too?

I was talking about the "bouncy" comment you made. I do not believe the vast majority of those supporters were singing that for any of the sectarian reasons you mention above.

Plenty of football teams out there sing the song. Was there anyone there singing it for that reason? Maybe there was but i don't know that and neither do you.

The billy boy thing is entirely different. Was it in the ground? I'm not sure it was.

That's your opinion, re the bouncy song, and remember this is not like soccer teams in Britain.

Regarding the Billy Boys in the ground itself, I don't know, but that a very sizeable cohort of the Shankill support very evidently revel in it, so it would be hardly unexpected that those of a similar mindset in the ground itself would be inclined similarly. Not necessarily from the Shankill, but you get the drift.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2015, 08:53:38 PM
It's also your opinion. I know a good few who go to windsor and they wouldn't sing that bouncy song with that intention - not in a million years. If you think thousands sing it for that reason then you have clearly your mind made up but i have no doubt you are wrong :)

Are there people there who would? Probably yes.

I go to a lot of ireland games where the fields of athenry is sung. I have heard, outside a ground granted, where there have been chants of ira. It can happen with any football crowd.

I don't disagree with some of what you said but you're doing a lot of grouping together of people that you haven't much need to be doing. Bigots still exist but quite a few are doing good work to keep them in the minority.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 10, 2015, 10:01:20 PM
OK, 'whole terrace' withdrawn, though 'vacuous morons' still stands ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Bazil Douglas on October 10, 2015, 10:08:32 PM
Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?

Food for thought. My sister who works with disadvantaged and troublesome youth from east Belfast once asked a group of lads what was the significance of this song being sung on the terraces, they explained it was a reference to dancing on Roberts Hamills head, when she questioned her husband (who is from Rathcoole) he explained that the song was about for years, but when sung at Ibrox or Windsor terraces it was a reference to R Hamill, and most protestants who attend these matches were aware of its relevance but sang along for the atmosphere ,just as most catholics were aware of the signicance of singing the roll of honor.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: imtommygunn on October 10, 2015, 10:23:25 PM
Fair enough but i stand by my point. I genuinely do not believe thousands of people sing that in reference to robert hamill. I also believe that football for all campaign would have tried to nip it in the bud too if that were the case.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on October 11, 2015, 08:30:20 PM
Hello all. I hope you're well.

I used to post on here a few years ago, thought I'd drop by for a peek as NI have made Euro 2016 and ROI are on the verge on getting there.

As ever, interesting to read the threads.

A bit disappointing to read the same old urban myth about the bouncy I dealt with on hear years ago. Urban myths die hard it seems.

However, Tony Fearon seems to have dropped the old "Tony Fearon" persona, quite the turn up for the books!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: muppet on October 11, 2015, 08:32:25 PM
Congrats to OWC. Now if we can only get a defence and a midfield we might join you.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 11, 2015, 08:41:30 PM
MW I'm heading to a business breakfast at which Michael O'Neill is the guest in two weeks time! Must get him to sign my NI jersey,won earlier this year of course.By the way did you see his Wedding Photo in today's Sunday Life? That took place in my home chapel in Portadown ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Wildweasel74 on October 11, 2015, 09:30:44 PM
Wonder if your the only person on here with a NI jersey tuh tuh!, them jump on the bandwagon supporters lol
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ziggysego on October 11, 2015, 10:23:55 PM
Wonder if your the only person on here with a NI jersey tuh tuh!, them jump on the bandwagon supporters lol

If there's a competition, Tony will enter it lol
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bennydorano on October 12, 2015, 02:32:38 PM
It's a pub on the Shankill, what are people expecting

And a whole terrace at the game itself singing the 'bouncy song' (celebrating the murder of Robert Hamill in Portadown) - is that to be expected too?

I was talking about the "bouncy" comment you made. I do not believe the vast majority of those supporters were singing that for any of the sectarian reasons you mention above.

Plenty of football teams out there sing the song. Was there anyone there singing it for that reason? Maybe there was but i don't know that and neither do you.

The billy boy thing is entirely different. Was it in the ground? I'm not sure it was.

That's your opinion, re the bouncy song, and remember this is not like soccer teams in Britain.

Regarding the Billy Boys in the ground itself, I don't know, but that a very sizeable cohort of the Shankill support very evidently revel in it, so it would be hardly unexpected that those of a similar mindset in the ground itself would be inclined similarly. Not necessarily from the Shankill, but you get the drift.
Is it Sectarianism you abhor or their brand of Sectarianism? Hard to distinguish with a lot of posters.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on October 12, 2015, 03:09:45 PM
Hello all. I hope you're well.

I used to post on here a few years ago, thought I'd drop by for a peek as NI have made Euro 2016 and ROI are on the verge on getting there.

As ever, interesting to read the threads.

A bit disappointing to read the same old urban myth about the bouncy I dealt with on hear years ago. Urban myths die hard it seems.

However, Tony Fearon seems to have dropped the old "Tony Fearon" persona, quite the turn up for the books!

Was it you that showed up at Tony's office and tried to get him sacked? I know one of you clampetts did.

Urban myth? Explain please.


How is Peter from Castlederg doing MW?   ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on October 12, 2015, 11:01:17 PM
Hello all. I hope you're well.

I used to post on here a few years ago, thought I'd drop by for a peek as NI have made Euro 2016 and ROI are on the verge on getting there.

As ever, interesting to read the threads.

A bit disappointing to read the same old urban myth about the bouncy I dealt with on hear years ago. Urban myths die hard it seems.

However, Tony Fearon seems to have dropped the old "Tony Fearon" persona, quite the turn up for the books!

Was it you that showed up at Tony's office and tried to get him sacked? I know one of you clampetts did.

Urban myth? Explain please.


How is Peter from Castlederg doing MW?   ;)

Hi stew - good to see you're still about.

Wasn't me, I came to realise Tony was just playing a cartoonish character he also called "Tony Fearon". I've never had the pleasure. Don't know Peter from Castlederg either.

Urban myth in the sense that it's simply not true that the bouncy originates in the murder of Robert Hamill. I remember seeing it in the early 90s, it's just a simple childish song enabling fans to jump up and down, regardless of what some perverted mind decided to say at some point.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on October 12, 2015, 11:04:04 PM
MW I'm heading to a business breakfast at which Michael O'Neill is the guest in two weeks time! Must get him to sign my NI jersey,won earlier this year of course.By the way did you see his Wedding Photo in today's Sunday Life? That took place in my home chapel in Portadown ;D

Ah Tony, you were always one for winning competitions! A signed one from MON will be worth a bob or two in a few years.

I did actually! I hope he sent you an invite..
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 12, 2015, 11:26:11 PM
Is it Sectarianism you abhor or their brand of Sectarianism? Hard to distinguish with a lot of posters.

Sectarianism in all its ugly and repulsive forms, regardless of source or hue, it's all to be despised.

Not big on organised religion, at all, as you might have gathered! ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bennydorano on October 12, 2015, 11:41:41 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: armaghniac on October 12, 2015, 11:46:18 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

I think you have it there "in NI", a place designed to promote sectarianism. NI is not the GAA, whereas it is the "I" FA.
I've never heard anything sectarian sung at games though, the focus of fans is usually the opposition.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on October 13, 2015, 03:57:44 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

I think you have it there "in NI", a place designed to promote sectarianism. NI is not the GAA, whereas it is the "I" FA.
I've never heard anything sectarian sung at games though, the focus of fans is usually the opposition.

I have seen scum provo lovers heckle the national anthem because they claimed it should be ' A nation once again'

Every one of them a durtboard!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on October 13, 2015, 04:45:27 PM
Hello all. I hope you're well.

I used to post on here a few years ago, thought I'd drop by for a peek as NI have made Euro 2016 and ROI are on the verge on getting there.

As ever, interesting to read the threads.

A bit disappointing to read the same old urban myth about the bouncy I dealt with on hear years ago. Urban myths die hard it seems.

However, Tony Fearon seems to have dropped the old "Tony Fearon" persona, quite the turn up for the books!

Was it you that showed up at Tony's office and tried to get him sacked? I know one of you clampetts did.

Urban myth? Explain please.


How is Peter from Castlederg doing MW?   ;)

Hi stew - good to see you're still about.

Wasn't me, I came to realise Tony was just playing a cartoonish character he also called "Tony Fearon". I've never had the pleasure. Don't know Peter from Castlederg either.

Urban myth in the sense that it's simply not true that the bouncy originates in the murder of Robert Hamill. I remember seeing it in the early 90s, it's just a simple childish song enabling fans to jump up and down, regardless of what some perverted mind decided to say at some point.

I saw it live when I met wee Marty and thought it was hilarious, I will accept that it has no connection to the murder of Mr Hamill because I know plenty of great lads that sing it with Gusto and would never have anything to do with the likes of that.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 14, 2015, 11:38:35 AM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

I think you have it there "in NI", a place designed to promote sectarianism. NI is not the GAA, whereas it is the "I" FA.
I've never heard anything sectarian sung at games though, the focus of fans is usually the opposition.

I have seen scum provo lovers heckle the national anthem because they claimed it should be ' A nation once again'

Every one of them a durtboard!

FFS! Were you playing football in the Cages (of Long Kesh) or something?!  :P

Never heard anything remotely such as that in all of the games I've been at, even those involving Armagh wans!  ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: general_lee on October 14, 2015, 04:10:19 PM
Re the bouncy, was talking to someone there the other night who was out socialising in Portadown. Told me that once the lights came on they all started doing the bouncy. I have somewhat altered my opinion on this particular chant.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 14, 2015, 08:43:04 PM
Is the bouncy not originally a Rangers fan song? Did not Celtic supporters substitute the word "Liquidation" for "Bouncy" when Rangers played their last ever Old Firm Derby at Celtic Park in the spring of 2012?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on October 14, 2015, 10:35:33 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

Correct.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 15, 2015, 07:43:51 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

Correct.

You seem to ignore that which doesn't chime with your own assumptions and preconceptions (don't worry, it's a recognised human frailty condition, psychologically, termed 'confirmation bias'). Let me remind you, however, of a post a little further back that you may have glossed over, and which is based on that which the contributor has actually experienced, recently:

Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?

Food for thought. My sister who works with disadvantaged and troublesome youth from east Belfast once asked a group of lads what was the significance of this song [bouncy song] being sung on the terraces, they explained it was a reference to dancing on Roberts Hamills head, when she questioned her husband (who is from Rathcoole) he explained that the song was about for years, but when sung at Ibrox or Windsor terraces it was a reference to R Hamill, and most protestants who attend these matches were aware of its relevance but sang along for the atmosphere ,just as most catholics were aware of the significance of singing the roll of honor.

Not pleasant reading, for any of us perhaps, but let's not be afraid to confront, from wherever it arises.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 15, 2015, 09:07:42 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

Correct.

You seem to ignore that which doesn't chime with your own assumptions and preconceptions (don't worry, it's a recognised human frailty condition, psychologically, termed 'confirmation bias'). Let me remind you, however, of a post a little further back that you may have glossed over, and which is based on that which the contributor has actually experienced, recently:

Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?

Food for thought. My sister who works with disadvantaged and troublesome youth from east Belfast once asked a group of lads what was the significance of this song [bouncy song] being sung on the terraces, they explained it was a reference to dancing on Roberts Hamills head, when she questioned her husband (who is from Rathcoole) he explained that the song was about for years, but when sung at Ibrox or Windsor terraces it was a reference to R Hamill, and most protestants who attend these matches were aware of its relevance but sang along for the atmosphere ,just as most catholics were aware of the significance of singing the roll of honor.

Not pleasant reading, for any of us perhaps, but let's not be afraid to confront, from wherever it arises.
Give it up man.  The statement highlighed above is absolute shite.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: gawa316 on October 15, 2015, 09:26:44 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

Correct.

You seem to ignore that which doesn't chime with your own assumptions and preconceptions (don't worry, it's a recognised human frailty condition, psychologically, termed 'confirmation bias'). Let me remind you, however, of a post a little further back that you may have glossed over, and which is based on that which the contributor has actually experienced, recently:

Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?

Food for thought. My sister who works with disadvantaged and troublesome youth from east Belfast once asked a group of lads what was the significance of this song [bouncy song] being sung on the terraces, they explained it was a reference to dancing on Roberts Hamills head, when she questioned her husband (who is from Rathcoole) he explained that the song was about for years, but when sung at Ibrox or Windsor terraces it was a reference to R Hamill, and most protestants who attend these matches were aware of its relevance but sang along for the atmosphere ,just as most catholics were aware of the significance of singing the roll of honor.

Not pleasant reading, for any of us perhaps, but let's not be afraid to confront, from wherever it arises.

Been going to Windsor for years and the God's honest truth is I never knew it was associated to R Hamill, i don't even know who he is. It may be immature of me but I do it because (a) I'm drunk, (b) it's a bit of craic, (c) the stadium looks deadly when everyone is doing it and (d) cause I'm fecking freezing.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: imtommygunn on October 15, 2015, 09:31:38 PM
Yeah i don't believe it at all to be honest.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 15, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

Correct.

You seem to ignore that which doesn't chime with your own assumptions and preconceptions (don't worry, it's a recognised human frailty condition, psychologically, termed 'confirmation bias'). Let me remind you, however, of a post a little further back that you may have glossed over, and which is based on that which the contributor has actually experienced, recently:

Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?

Food for thought. My sister who works with disadvantaged and troublesome youth from east Belfast once asked a group of lads what was the significance of this song [bouncy song] being sung on the terraces, they explained it was a reference to dancing on Roberts Hamills head, when she questioned her husband (who is from Rathcoole) he explained that the song was about for years, but when sung at Ibrox or Windsor terraces it was a reference to R Hamill, and most protestants who attend these matches were aware of its relevance but sang along for the atmosphere ,just as most catholics were aware of the significance of singing the roll of honor.

Not pleasant reading, for any of us perhaps, but let's not be afraid to confront, from wherever it arises.
Give it up man.  The statement highlighed above is absolute shite.
What about Limerick City FC and their singing of the bouncy?  They refering to R Hamill or they just doing it for a bit of craic?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: snoopdog on October 15, 2015, 10:30:57 PM
What the f**k is the bouncy?  I will Prob know it if I see lyrics?
I'm from the North. I won't support them but we'll done on getting qualification, 86 is a long time ago but since then nothing has been done that I can see to get catholics behind the team I don't understand why any would play for them under that anthem and fleg buy that's there choice.  Enjoy the tournament. I'm more worried about Monaghan v Down in 1st round of ulster next June. 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 15, 2015, 10:40:06 PM
Bouncy wouncy  bouncy wouncy doot doot doot doot da dum.

Don't think it refers to the tragic murder of Robert Hamill to be honest.Presumably those who call for the IFA to drop the fleg and anthem would be apoplectic if the GAA followed Jarlath Burns advice and did likewise.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on October 15, 2015, 11:34:49 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

Correct.

You seem to ignore that which doesn't chime with your own assumptions and preconceptions (don't worry, it's a recognised human frailty condition, psychologically, termed 'confirmation bias'). Let me remind you, however, of a post a little further back that you may have glossed over, and which is based on that which the contributor has actually experienced, recently:

Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?

Food for thought. My sister who works with disadvantaged and troublesome youth from east Belfast once asked a group of lads what was the significance of this song [bouncy song] being sung on the terraces, they explained it was a reference to dancing on Roberts Hamills head, when she questioned her husband (who is from Rathcoole) he explained that the song was about for years, but when sung at Ibrox or Windsor terraces it was a reference to R Hamill, and most protestants who attend these matches were aware of its relevance but sang along for the atmosphere ,just as most catholics were aware of the significance of singing the roll of honor.

Not pleasant reading, for any of us perhaps, but let's not be afraid to confront, from wherever it arises.
Give it up man.  The statement highlighed above is absolute shite.

So you don't believe personal testimony?

I wish too it weren't true, but suck it up, and it rots.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: armaghniac on October 15, 2015, 11:41:01 PM
Bouncy wouncy  bouncy wouncy doot doot doot doot da dum.

Don't think it refers to the tragic murder of Robert Hamill to be honest.Presumably those who call for the IFA to drop the fleg and anthem would be apoplectic if the GAA followed Jarlath Burns advice and did likewise.

No reasonable person sees any equivalence between the IFA, an organisations representing a sectarian entity, and the GAA.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: 5 Sams on October 15, 2015, 11:49:11 PM
Brian McGuigan had a very interesting article in the Gaelic Life today. He was at the Ireland Germany game in the Aviva but made it very clear his own country (OWC) was forefront in his mind.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: east down gael on October 15, 2015, 11:52:35 PM
Did the loyalist flute band not do the bouncy outside st pats chapel in Belfast?i'm sure offending nationalists was the last thing they intended aswell.if I was a member of a group of soccer supporters who did a dance or a song that was in any way construed as glorifying the murder of an innocent man I would probably desist from that behaviour.
   However,that is highly unlikely to happen at a gaa match.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 15, 2015, 11:59:57 PM
Did the loyalist flute band not do the bouncy outside st pats chapel in Belfast?i'm sure offending nationalists was the last thing they intended aswell.if I was a member of a group of soccer supporters who did a dance or a song that was in any way construed as glorifying the murder of an innocent man I would probably desist from that behaviour.
   However,that is highly unlikely to happen at a gaa match.
Not looking bad in public isn't top of loyalism's agenda :)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: east down gael on October 16, 2015, 12:08:55 AM
It definitely isn't!i do feel for the genuine supporters of the team though,and they would in fairness be the majority.i would never support the team.the 'our wee country' stuff,although harmless, turns me off completely.its the bouncy,union jacks,god save the queen which instead of not supporting them makes me wish they don't do well.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on October 16, 2015, 08:05:41 AM
Bouncy wouncy  bouncy wouncy doot doot doot doot da dum.

Don't think it refers to the tragic murder of Robert Hamill to be honest.Presumably those who call for the IFA to drop the fleg and anthem would be apoplectic if the GAA followed Jarlath Burns advice and did likewise.

Personally I dont care what the GAA do regarding anthems and flegs but you cant compare the 2. Only a couple of days ago we had Jim Boyce in the newsletter claiming the football team has united the whole country (owc that is). This is a guy who was head of the IFA for 12 years and although things have improved the big elephants in the room have been completely ignored.  You know all is not well when former players have publicly said the anthem should go and that the stadium should be somewhere else. Lets also remember that the IFA are keen to accuse the FAI of poaching all the time and yet are not prepared to address the actual root of the problems. Since I can remember (early eighties) to the present Northern Ireland has been quite evenly represented by both communities which makes the head in sand policy all the more appalling. The anthem needs to be changed British regions/countries like Scotland and Wales have their own anthems. The flag is a difficult one but why use a defunct government flag for a sporting team, the IFA used the St Patricks flag for the first 75 odd years of its existence. The stadium is undergoing redevelopment so it looks like its Windsor for the foreseeable future with the IFA giving their darlings Linfield a massive advantage over the other Irish league teams. The one plus side is the area that was once a very intimidating place to go to has seen unbelievable demographic change in the last 15 years with quite a large migrant community too making the area slowly more neutral.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 16, 2015, 05:36:04 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

Correct.

You seem to ignore that which doesn't chime with your own assumptions and preconceptions (don't worry, it's a recognised human frailty condition, psychologically, termed 'confirmation bias'). Let me remind you, however, of a post a little further back that you may have glossed over, and which is based on that which the contributor has actually experienced, recently:

Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?

Food for thought. My sister who works with disadvantaged and troublesome youth from east Belfast once asked a group of lads what was the significance of this song [bouncy song] being sung on the terraces, they explained it was a reference to dancing on Roberts Hamills head, when she questioned her husband (who is from Rathcoole) he explained that the song was about for years, but when sung at Ibrox or Windsor terraces it was a reference to R Hamill, and most protestants who attend these matches were aware of its relevance but sang along for the atmosphere ,just as most catholics were aware of the significance of singing the roll of honor.

Not pleasant reading, for any of us perhaps, but let's not be afraid to confront, from wherever it arises.
Give it up man.  The statement highlighed above is absolute shite.

So you don't believe personal testimony?

I wish too it weren't true, but suck it up, and it rots.
A poster's, sister's husband who thinks that those who sing it are aware of its relevance, is not what I would call personal testimony.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 16, 2015, 05:46:40 PM
It definitely isn't!i do feel for the genuine supporters of the team though,and they would in fairness be the majority.i would never support the team.the 'our wee country' stuff,although harmless, turns me off completely.its the bouncy,union jacks,god save the queen which instead of not supporting them makes me wish they don't do well.

Do you even know where the 'our wee country stuff' come from?  See the link below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j3P2edmlsE

If this turns you off completely, you are clearly easily offended.  Your admission that you want the team to lose, says it all too.  Would your not wanting the team not to do well / lose, not be exactly the same as a loyalist from the Shankill wanting the Ireland rugny team to lose because of the Soldiers Song etc?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: muppet on October 16, 2015, 05:50:17 PM
Bouncy wouncy  bouncy wouncy doot doot doot doot da dum.

Finally Tony, you are beginning to talk some sense.  :D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Bazil Douglas on October 16, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

Correct.

You seem to ignore that which doesn't chime with your own assumptions and preconceptions (don't worry, it's a recognised human frailty condition, psychologically, termed 'confirmation bias'). Let me remind you, however, of a post a little further back that you may have glossed over, and which is based on that which the contributor has actually experienced, recently:

Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?

Food for thought. My sister who works with disadvantaged and troublesome youth from east Belfast once asked a group of lads what was the significance of this song [bouncy song] being sung on the terraces, they explained it was a reference to dancing on Roberts Hamills head, when she questioned her husband (who is from Rathcoole) he explained that the song was about for years, but when sung at Ibrox or Windsor terraces it was a reference to R Hamill, and most protestants who attend these matches were aware of its relevance but sang along for the atmosphere ,just as most catholics were aware of the significance of singing the roll of honor.

Not pleasant reading, for any of us perhaps, but let's not be afraid to confront, from wherever it arises.
Give it up man.  The statement highlighed above is absolute shite.

So you don't believe personal testimony?

I wish too it weren't true, but suck it up, and it rots.
A poster's, sister's husband who thinks that those who sing it are aware of its relevance, is not what I would call personal testimony.

Jez lad, calm down the post wasn't meant as a factual, or gospel truth, statement as I said food for thought, the subject came up in a general conversation, the guy is a NI supporter has been since the 70s just thought he might be better qualified to form an opinion considering his back ground. But hey opinions are like assholes everyone has one. I apologise if it dosen't fit in with your rosy happy families ideas of yer beloved team.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on October 16, 2015, 07:30:25 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

Correct.

You seem to ignore that which doesn't chime with your own assumptions and preconceptions (don't worry, it's a recognised human frailty condition, psychologically, termed 'confirmation bias'). Let me remind you, however, of a post a little further back that you may have glossed over, and which is based on that which the contributor has actually experienced, recently:

Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?

Food for thought. My sister who works with disadvantaged and troublesome youth from east Belfast once asked a group of lads what was the significance of this song [bouncy song] being sung on the terraces, they explained it was a reference to dancing on Roberts Hamills head, when she questioned her husband (who is from Rathcoole) he explained that the song was about for years, but when sung at Ibrox or Windsor terraces it was a reference to R Hamill, and most protestants who attend these matches were aware of its relevance but sang along for the atmosphere ,just as most catholics were aware of the significance of singing the roll of honor.

Not pleasant reading, for any of us perhaps, but let's not be afraid to confront, from wherever it arises.
Give it up man.  The statement highlighed above is absolute shite.

So you don't believe personal testimony?

I wish too it weren't true, but suck it up, and it rots.
A poster's, sister's husband who thinks that those who sing it are aware of its relevance, is not what I would call personal testimony.

Jez lad, calm down the post wasn't meant as a factual, or gospel truth, statement as I said food for thought, the subject came up in a general conversation, the guy is a NI supporter has been since the 70s just thought he might be better qualified to form an opinion considering his back ground. But hey opinions are like assholes everyone has one. I apologise if it dosen't fit in with your rosy happy families ideas of yer beloved team.
I've been a supporter the same length of time, so I am equally well qualified to form and state an opinion.  Go ahead and believe whatever opinion best supports your own pre-conceived ideas about the NI football team.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 16, 2015, 09:37:48 PM
I was intrigued to learn that both the IFA and FAI were in talks about reunification in the late 70s at the height of the troubles.

Sure Windsor Park could do with a change of anthem and some acknowledgement of the different communities instead of the old Unionist mantra that as N I is part of the U.K. why not fly the UK flag etc.

But the Irish team that plays at the Aviva and match days there is not big on acknowledging other cultures on the island either.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on October 16, 2015, 09:46:00 PM
I was intrigued to learn that both the IFA and FAI were in talks about reunification in the late 70s at the height of the troubles.

Sure Windsor Park could do with a change of anthem and some acknowledgement of the different communities instead of the old Unionist mantra that as N I is part of the U.K. why not fly the UK flag etc.

But the Irish team that plays at the Aviva and match days there is not big on acknowledging other cultures on the island either.

If they changed the anthem, you could see fans bringing in a big Ghetto Blaster with a cassette tape of GSTQ, a la Ian Og at Queens University years ago.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: armaghniac on October 16, 2015, 09:52:05 PM
But the Irish team that plays at the Aviva and match days there is not big on acknowledging other cultures on the island either.

What had you in mind, sing Polish songs, Nigerian dances?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on October 16, 2015, 09:55:28 PM
But the Irish team that plays at the Aviva and match days there is not big on acknowledging other cultures on the island either.

What had you in mind, sing Polish songs, Nigerian dances?

A few Rastafarian hats should do it!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 16, 2015, 11:10:02 PM
Neither Irish team is culturally welcoming to the other major community on this island,and that is a fact.It is time to depoliticise sport by removing all national flags and anthems
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: armaghniac on October 16, 2015, 11:11:55 PM
Neither Irish team is culturally welcoming to the other major community on this island,and that is a fact.It is time to depoliticise sport by removing all national flags and anthems

Once again a spurious equality is proposed. If you equate things that are not equal you can propose any nonsense.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 17, 2015, 04:01:52 PM
On the contrary instead of having two international football teams on this island representing two different sections of the community and neither capable of attracting cross community support I wish we had only one team representing all communities.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on October 17, 2015, 04:42:15 PM
On the contrary instead of having two international football teams on this island representing two different sections of the community and neither capable of attracting cross community support I wish we had only one team representing all communities.

In an ideal world...

I can't see it ever happening.

Unionists are constantly told that a United Ireland is coming and they don't want any involvement or association with the Catholic community/the South, be that politically, economically, culturally, educationally, environmentally etc. They are insecure about who and what they are and have drawn a curtain around themselves from the rest of the people of this island. Unionist areas are also insecure and inhospitable towards foreign nationals. They seem to be happy in their "our wee country" scenario, and are glad there is no catholic support for it, nor do they want any catholic involvement.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 17, 2015, 05:57:26 PM
That is utterly wrong.Unionists support an All Ireland Rugby team,there are Irish classes in East Belfast and the NI football team manager is Catholic.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2015, 06:06:36 PM
Most foreign nationals live in prod areas, why is that?? To think there isn't racists on the nationalists side think again.... N.Ireland supporters back in the day have been complete bigots, but it has seriously improved... Whether that's good enough to gather support from the Falls road is debateable...

If we continue to drive division then we'll  always be divided
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on October 17, 2015, 06:23:46 PM
That is utterly wrong.Unionists support an All Ireland Rugby team,there are Irish classes in East Belfast and the NI football team manager is Catholic.

A different kind of unionist supports the rugby team.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2015, 06:43:01 PM
Can Martin McGuinness do a Mandela and wear the NI soccer jersey next summer?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: armaghniac on October 17, 2015, 06:55:19 PM
Most foreign nationals live in prod areas, why is that??

You know very well why that is. The population of Protestant areas has declined, while that of Catholic ones has increased. As the Catholics dare not move to the Protestant areas, the result is Protestant areas with empty property and low rants, which Nationalist districts are full to the brim. The misforuntate foreigners come here and go for rents they cannot afford, without fully appreciating the nature of the districts they are moving into.

Quote
To think there isn't racists on the nationalists side think again....

No doubt there are,every group of people has a bollix, there may even be some in Gaaboard. . But nationalism is not based on ethnic supremacist policies, the racism is an act of individuals not a collective value of the entire group.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2015, 06:58:54 PM
Most foreign nationals live in prod areas, why is that??

You know very well why that is. The population of Protestant areas has declined, while that of Catholic ones has increased. As the Catholics dare not move to the Protestant areas, the result is Protestant areas with empty property and low rants, which Nationalist districts are full to the brim. The misforuntate foreigners come here and go for rents they cannot afford, without fully appreciating the nature of the districts they are moving into.

Quote


To think there isn't racists on the nationalists side think again....

No doubt there are,every group of people has a bollix, there may even be some in Gaaboard. . But nationalism is not based on ethnic supremacist policies, the racism is an act of individuals not a collective value of the entire group.

Agreed!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: armaghniac on October 17, 2015, 07:05:36 PM
Most foreign nationals live in prod areas, why is that??

You know very well why that is. The population of Protestant areas has declined, while that of Catholic ones has increased. As the Catholics dare not move to the Protestant areas, the result is Protestant areas with empty property and low rants, which Nationalist districts are full to the brim. The misforuntate foreigners come here and go for rents they cannot afford, without fully appreciating the nature of the districts they are moving into.

Quote


To think there isn't racists on the nationalists side think again....

No doubt there are,every group of people has a bollix, there may even be some in Gaaboard. . But nationalism is not based on ethnic supremacist policies, the racism is an act of individuals not a collective value of the entire group.

Agreed!

Muppet agrees with me. An auspicious day, surely;  even if it is caused by a vernacular spelling.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: muppet on October 17, 2015, 07:07:46 PM
Most foreign nationals live in prod areas, why is that??

You know very well why that is. The population of Protestant areas has declined, while that of Catholic ones has increased. As the Catholics dare not move to the Protestant areas, the result is Protestant areas with empty property and low rants, which Nationalist districts are full to the brim. The misforuntate foreigners come here and go for rents they cannot afford, without fully appreciating the nature of the districts they are moving into.

Quote


To think there isn't racists on the nationalists side think again....

No doubt there are,every group of people has a bollix, there may even be some in Gaaboard. . But nationalism is not based on ethnic supremacist policies, the racism is an act of individuals not a collective value of the entire group.

Agreed!

Muppet agrees with me. An auspicious day, surely;  even if it is caused by a vernacular spelling.

I've been agreeing with you a lot recently, I just hate doing '+1'.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 17, 2015, 09:12:45 PM
There is a Protestant unionist underclass in the six counties as well as a Catholic nationalist underclass,who unfortunately suffered most during the troubles by manipulation to kill each other and live apart.

I have to confess in recent years I am coming round more and more to the idea of being Northern Irish as opposed to being British or Irish,neither of whose governments or peoples really want any of us in the North, and have continuously screwed both sides here in return for misplaced allegiance,and arguably don't even begin to understand us nor we them in truth.Nationalism in the North us little in common with the Southern variation and unionism in the North has little or nothing in common with culture in the UK.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bennydorano on October 17, 2015, 09:16:26 PM
TF's Damascene conversion gathers pace. Uncle Ian Paisley must be looking down with tears in his eyes. :)

I agree with you 100% on this occasion btw.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on October 17, 2015, 09:24:04 PM
Amazing the change one can undergo when thought is applied.In the recent Westminster election I voted non tribally for the first time ever mainly because I knew the candidate personally and know of the commitment and non bigotry the candidate shows in political life.In future I will do the same and vote in terms of everyday issues and policies rather than some fictional constitutional dream that a) Is never going to happen and b) Would make no material difference to my life even if it did.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on October 17, 2015, 09:56:00 PM
There is a Protestant unionist underclass in the six counties as well as a Catholic nationalist underclass,who unfortunately suffered most during the troubles by manipulation to kill each other and live apart.

I have to confess in recent years I am coming round more and more to the idea of being Northern Irish as opposed to being British or Irish,neither of whose governments or peoples really want any of us in the North, and have continuously screwed both sides here in return for misplaced allegiance,and arguably don't even begin to understand us nor we them in truth.Nationalism in the North us little in common with the Southern variation and unionism in the North has little or nothing in common with culture in the UK.

No government wants any people, nor gives too fiddlers frig about anyone they rule. It doesn't just apply to us.

The original planters that settled here were just pawns in a political game. The term Unionist implies they are in favour of the Union. Protestants long to be in the UK, but Britain would abandon them in the morning if it was in their interests. The notion that Britain actually cares about them is laughable. What about those Protestants in the border counties that were left in the Free State after partition. The British government didn't give too fecks about them and their support of the Union, so why would they give two fecks about the current Protestants within the Union?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on October 17, 2015, 10:03:18 PM
Is the bouncy not originally a Rangers fan song? Did not Celtic supporters substitute the word "Liquidation" for "Bouncy" when Rangers played their last ever Old Firm Derby at Celtic Park in the spring of 2012?

Well according to the Wikipedia page for The Bouncy (yeah, who knew?), it is:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bouncy

This Celtic supporters' page scotches the myth of an origin in the Hamill murder, also raises the idea that it might actually have begun with Greenock Morton fans:

http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/topic/535125/3/

Morton fans seem to agree:

http://www.greenockmorton.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=3051&page=1
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on October 17, 2015, 10:07:41 PM
Bouncy wouncy  bouncy wouncy doot doot doot doot da dum.

Don't think it refers to the tragic murder of Robert Hamill to be honest.Presumably those who call for the IFA to drop the fleg and anthem would be apoplectic if the GAA followed Jarlath Burns advice and did likewise.

Actually that's not the lyrics (or indeed tune) NI fans use, it's just "let's all do the bouncy (x2), na na na na, na na na na...".

By the way when i alluded to having had this discussion on here before, I didn't realise it was as long as 9 years ago...
http://gaadiscussionboard.yuku.com/topic/1282/Lets-All-Do-The-Bouncy-with-Logie?page=2

Bloody hell...

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on October 17, 2015, 10:14:59 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

Correct.

You seem to ignore that which doesn't chime with your own assumptions and preconceptions (don't worry, it's a recognised human frailty condition, psychologically, termed 'confirmation bias'). Let me remind you, however, of a post a little further back that you may have glossed over, and which is based on that which the contributor has actually experienced, recently:

Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?

Food for thought. My sister who works with disadvantaged and troublesome youth from east Belfast once asked a group of lads what was the significance of this song [bouncy song] being sung on the terraces, they explained it was a reference to dancing on Roberts Hamills head, when she questioned her husband (who is from Rathcoole) he explained that the song was about for years, but when sung at Ibrox or Windsor terraces it was a reference to R Hamill, and most protestants who attend these matches were aware of its relevance but sang along for the atmosphere ,just as most catholics were aware of the significance of singing the roll of honor.

Not pleasant reading, for any of us perhaps, but let's not be afraid to confront, from wherever it arises.
Give it up man.  The statement highlighed above is absolute shite.

So you don't believe personal testimony?

I wish too it weren't true, but suck it up, and it rots.

I'm calling "bullshit" on this supposed "personal testimony".
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on October 17, 2015, 10:59:44 PM
I'd say it would be a fairly safe bet that if you took a cross section of a well attended GAA match in NI a fair percentage would hold Sectarian views or maybe just be partial to the odd 'Chucky' song.

Correct.

You seem to ignore that which doesn't chime with your own assumptions and preconceptions (don't worry, it's a recognised human frailty condition, psychologically, termed 'confirmation bias'). Let me remind you, however, of a post a little further back that you may have glossed over, and which is based on that which the contributor has actually experienced, recently:

Does everyone singing that song associate it with that? I wouldn't have thought so?

Food for thought. My sister who works with disadvantaged and troublesome youth from east Belfast once asked a group of lads what was the significance of this song [bouncy song] being sung on the terraces, they explained it was a reference to dancing on Roberts Hamills head, when she questioned her husband (who is from Rathcoole) he explained that the song was about for years, but when sung at Ibrox or Windsor terraces it was a reference to R Hamill, and most protestants who attend these matches were aware of its relevance but sang along for the atmosphere ,just as most catholics were aware of the significance of singing the roll of honor.

Not pleasant reading, for any of us perhaps, but let's not be afraid to confront, from wherever it arises.
Give it up man.  The statement highlighed above is absolute shite.

So you don't believe personal testimony?

I wish too it weren't true, but suck it up, and it rots.

I'm calling "bullshit" on this supposed "personal testimony".

Maybe, maybe not, but who are you to say. Lets be honest Windsor park was a sectarian pit only 20 years ago and although its a much better atmosphere now and a more neutral environment it would be incredibly naive to think that all those die hards from not long ago have just passed away.
Also the whole origin argument is irrelevant after all those KTP flute bands are just massive beach boy fans dont you know, what matters is what the fans themselves believe when they are singing. I would say the overwhelming majority do it for the laugh but there probably are some who have other reasons.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on October 17, 2015, 11:09:45 PM
Amazing the change one can undergo when thought is applied.In the recent Westminster election I voted non tribally for the first time ever mainly because I knew the candidate personally and know of the commitment and non bigotry the candidate shows in political life.In future I will do the same and vote in terms of everyday issues and policies rather than some fictional constitutional dream that a) Is never going to happen and b) Would make no material difference to my life even if it did.
 

Well the constitutional question can only be answered in a referendum so you may as well vote for the candidate and not the party in all other elections and looking at recent voting patterns those from a nationalist background seem to be doing that more and more as transfers from Green and Alliance parties quickly reveal. The next non-designated party to hit the assembly will be PBP next year who pretty much get all their votes from massive nationalist/republican areas. The only other non designated party in the Assembly are NI21 who were Unionist until the day before the european elections then changed then imploded.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on October 17, 2015, 11:14:52 PM
Anyone else hear about Linfield fans causing havoc in Finland after the NI match? Apparently they wrecked an Irish bar in Helsinki
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ONeill on October 17, 2015, 11:19:57 PM
Wrecked it?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: saffron sam2 on November 10, 2015, 11:08:15 PM
I'm liking the new IFA kit. Good to see the nod to the original St Patrick's blue.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on November 10, 2015, 11:14:47 PM
Jaysus  :o
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on November 10, 2015, 11:30:56 PM
There is a Protestant unionist underclass in the six counties as well as a Catholic nationalist underclass,who unfortunately suffered most during the troubles by manipulation to kill each other and live apart.

I have to confess in recent years I am coming round more and more to the idea of being Northern Irish as opposed to being British or Irish,neither of whose governments or peoples really want any of us in the North, and have continuously screwed both sides here in return for misplaced allegiance,and arguably don't even begin to understand us nor we them in truth.Nationalism in the North us little in common with the Southern variation and unionism in the North has little or nothing in common with culture in the UK.

Next you will be attending OWC games an wearing the poppy whilst doing the bouncy ffs!

I am Irish, fack than northern Irish shite, a term bestowed upon you by your British overlords.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Subbie on November 11, 2015, 12:47:16 AM
There is a Protestant unionist underclass in the six counties as well as a Catholic nationalist underclass,who unfortunately suffered most during the troubles by manipulation to kill each other and live apart.

I have to confess in recent years I am coming round more and more to the idea of being Northern Irish as opposed to being British or Irish,neither of whose governments or peoples really want any of us in the North, and have continuously screwed both sides here in return for misplaced allegiance,and arguably don't even begin to understand us nor we them in truth.Nationalism in the North us little in common with the Southern variation and unionism in the North has little or nothing in common with culture in the UK.

Good Man. Do you need to take your own bowl to get the soup or do they give you that as well??
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: gallsman on November 11, 2015, 10:42:48 AM
Next you will be attending OWC games an wearing the poppy whilst doing the bouncy ffs!

I am Irish, fack than northern Irish shite, a term bestowed upon you by your British overlords.

I seen the fans at Soldier field and they were brilliant craic, took a dump when GSTQ was being played so no problem there, the game was ket but the fans were brilliant altogether, I only heard one idiot mentioning fenian's and he was told to feck up!

I also met owc's wee Marty that day, he could hardly stand up he was that pissed but he was smiling away and enjoyed himself!

 McLean played for the north at every age group and then, after they spent all that money on developing him he facks away off the the Republic, I can see why they are annoyed at him.

One last thing, the manager is going to be a premier league manager one day, Celtic should nab him when they let Ronnie go.

Are you bi-polar and schizophrenic or just a massively hypocritical ****?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on November 11, 2015, 10:01:22 PM
Next you will be attending OWC games an wearing the poppy whilst doing the bouncy ffs!

I am Irish, fack than northern Irish shite, a term bestowed upon you by your British overlords.

I seen the fans at Soldier field and they were brilliant craic, took a dump when GSTQ was being played so no problem there, the game was ket but the fans were brilliant altogether, I only heard one idiot mentioning fenian's and he was told to feck up!

I also met owc's wee Marty that day, he could hardly stand up he was that pissed but he was smiling away and enjoyed himself!

 McLean played for the north at every age group and then, after they spent all that money on developing him he facks away off the the Republic, I can see why they are annoyed at him.

One last thing, the manager is going to be a premier league manager one day, Celtic should nab him when they let Ronnie go.

Are you bi-polar and schizophrenic or just a massively hypocritical ****?

Eh I was talking about the football team in the one post, i.e the one that praised the fans in Chicago, in the other I was referring to the term Northern Ireland you clampett.

I have not been responding to you because you are a puke and and arrogant, uppity sort, I wish to have no dealings with you so kindly f**k off and do not respond to me, you ran away for a while before, get a life kid, you must have better things to do than try and annoy me.

I have been very consistent in my support for any team that represents Ireland, north and south and have always said if someone represents Ireland I would support them in whatever sporting endeavor they were in.

If I was bi polar or schizophrenic why would you want to let the public on this site know I was? would it be funny to you Gallsman?

You trolling through my posts is sad really, it is even worse when you, in your haste fail to take the time to comprehend what I wrote, then realize you messed up and we get crickets................................................

I am going to do you a favor, I am going to wish you well and that you have a great day, this back and forth is petty and should be beneath the both of us, it is me, how about you mo chara?  ;)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ashman on November 11, 2015, 10:25:02 PM
Good work out for our boys the weekend v Latvia.  A win  would be great but hopefully we keep on the learning curve.  Come on Ireland . 

The mutineers in Bosnia will have it tough . 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: armaghniac on November 11, 2015, 11:24:03 PM
I have to confess in recent years I am coming round more and more to the idea of being Northern Irish as opposed to being British or Irish,neither of whose governments or peoples really want any of us in the North, and have continuously screwed both sides here in return for misplaced allegiance,and arguably don't even begin to understand us nor we them in truth.

I don't understand you, and I am from Armagh.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ashman on November 13, 2015, 08:59:46 PM
Steven Davis !!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bennydorano on December 31, 2015, 06:21:44 PM
Call for England to have its own national anthem - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-35204504

What will NI do if this comes to pass? Could be the final kick in the arse needed to get shot of GSTQ
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2017, 09:04:59 PM
Soft penalty for Switzerland to give them the lead at time when they were looking to be running out of ideas.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 09, 2017, 09:09:08 PM
Soft penalty for Switzerland to give them the lead at time when they were looking to be running out of ideas.

Harsh but northern ireland have been dung nothing like some of their more recent performances. A bad decision but switzerland deserve to be  at least 2-0 up
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Itchy on November 09, 2017, 09:12:23 PM
Soft penalty for Switzerland to give them the lead at time when they were looking to be running out of ideas.

Running out of ideas? Swiss at their ease. Peno was a joke decision but there's only one team on that pitch able to compete
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ashman on November 09, 2017, 09:13:58 PM
Michael O Neill deserves huge credit for making this group of players competitive .

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: imtommygunn on November 09, 2017, 09:18:42 PM
What he has done with ni is one of the better jobs you would see in world football irrespective of outcome here.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Itchy on November 09, 2017, 09:19:53 PM
that co commentator is some clown. every decision should be for the north!.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Syferus on November 09, 2017, 09:23:55 PM
What he has done with ni is one of the better jobs you would see in world football irrespective of outcome here.

Iceland, playing better football and off a population less than half that of Belfast, is far more impressive. All three island teams have done well recently.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: charlieTully on November 09, 2017, 09:26:00 PM
https://www.facebook.com/belfasttelegraph/posts/10155646234248819

Mr Fearon tearing up the tele fb today, getting called a sectarian republican and everything  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: The Trap on November 09, 2017, 09:26:53 PM
Gerry Armstrong is making an idiot out of himself.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 09, 2017, 09:29:42 PM
Soft penalty for Switzerland to give them the lead at time when they were looking to be running out of ideas.

Running out of ideas? Swiss at their ease. Peno was a joke decision but there's only one team on that pitch able to compete
A load of long range hit and hope shots before that penalty a pure sign of a team that was running out of ideas. The Northern Ireland penalty appeal was more of hand ball than the one the Swiss got.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Itchy on November 09, 2017, 09:34:49 PM
Soft penalty for Switzerland to give them the lead at time when they were looking to be running out of ideas.

Running out of ideas? Swiss at their ease. Peno was a joke decision but there's only one team on that pitch able to compete
A load of long range hit and hope shots before that penalty a pure sign of a team that was running out of ideas. The Northern Ireland penalty appeal was more of hand ball than the one the Swiss got.

the northern Ireland penalty appeal was ridiculous, ball clearly hit him on chest/chin nowhere near his arm. Swiss should've been 2 or 3 nil up before goal.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: imtommygunn on November 09, 2017, 09:37:25 PM
What he has done with ni is one of the better jobs you would see in world football irrespective of outcome here.

Iceland, playing better football and off a population less than half that of Belfast, is far more impressive. All three island teams have done well recently.

Yeah but as well as anything here has rugby, gaa, hockey etc. and not everyone in ni wants to play for Ni. Agree though iceland doing fantastic and arguably better.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on November 09, 2017, 09:40:32 PM
Gerry Armstrong is making an idiot out of himself.

Plus ca change  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 09, 2017, 09:44:38 PM
World cup qualifier at home. You havent qualified in 30 yrs so strange time to play one of your worst games in years. Awfull stuff. I just hope the republic have a bit more ambition. The moaning about the penalty is a distraction moan about the lack of quality. First time in a while they actually looked like the club players they really are. Still 1-0 in Basle isnt impossible
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: imtommygunn on November 09, 2017, 09:47:10 PM
I don't think saturday will see adventure. Tuesday will depend on what happens saturday i suspect!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: From the Bunker on November 09, 2017, 09:48:44 PM
World cup qualifier at home. You havent qualified in 30 yrs so strange time to play one of your worst games in years. Awfull stuff. I just hope the republic have a bit more ambition. The moaning about the penalty is a distraction moan about the lack of quality. First time in a while they actually looked like the club players they really are. Still 1-0 in Basle isnt impossible

If Northern Ireland were losing 3 to 4 nil and that Penalty was awarded, then it would be a distraction moan. You'd have to be disgusted for a decision like that to go against you.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Syferus on November 09, 2017, 09:49:00 PM
I don't think saturday will see adventure. Tuesday will depend on what happens saturday i suspect!

No adventure over the 180 at all. It’s going to be the same old guts and glory, hoofball approach. It’s brought us this far and there’s no chance we’re about to change.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Asal Mor on November 09, 2017, 09:56:38 PM
Soft penalty for Switzerland to give them the lead at time when they were looking to be running out of ideas.

Harsh but northern ireland have been dung nothing like some of their more recent performances. A bad decision but switzerland deserve to be  at least 2-0 up
They got a penalty they shouldn't have. They deserve to be 0-0.

I've never understood the notion that a team that creates lots of chances but doesn't take them deserves to win.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 09, 2017, 09:58:40 PM
World cup qualifier at home. You havent qualified in 30 yrs so strange time to play one of your worst games in years. Awfull stuff. I just hope the republic have a bit more ambition. The moaning about the penalty is a distraction moan about the lack of quality. First time in a while they actually looked like the club players they really are. Still 1-0 in Basle isnt impossible

If Northern Ireland were losing 3 to 4 nil and that Penalty was awarded, then it would be a distraction moan. You'd have to be disgusted for a decision like that to go against you.

It was a bad decidision but switzerland should have been out of sight. Colin murray equating it to the Thierry Henry moment like wtf. The difference being ireland should have been out of sight that night hence the feeling of being robbed. Northern ireland created nothing tonight so at best were playing for a 0-0 the swiss missed several good chances. Still the swiss are no great shakes so a bit more positivity and a bit of luck and you never know
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Arthur_Friend on November 09, 2017, 10:00:50 PM
Soft penalty for Switzerland to give them the lead at time when they were looking to be running out of ideas.

Harsh but northern ireland have been dung nothing like some of their more recent performances. A bad decision but switzerland deserve to be  at least 2-0 up
They got a penalty they shouldn't have. They deserve to be 0-0.

I've never understood the notion that a team that creates lots of chances but doesn't take them deserves to win.

Agreed. If it should have been 2-0 to Switzerland then why wasn't it?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 09, 2017, 10:01:41 PM
Soft penalty for Switzerland to give them the lead at time when they were looking to be running out of ideas.

Harsh but northern ireland have been dung nothing like some of their more recent performances. A bad decision but switzerland deserve to be  at least 2-0 up
They got a penalty they shouldn't have. They deserve to be 0-0.

I've never understood the notion that a team that creates lots of chances but doesn't take them deserves to win.

True but you could argue that the swiss later didnt get a penalty that was legit. Just felt fir such a big game nirthern ireland were very negative and only gave it a go in the last 15-20 mins
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 09, 2017, 10:07:16 PM
If the officials got those penalty decision correct Northern Ireland providing they scored their penalty would have won that game 1-0 putting them in a great position to win this tie. After the Henry hand ball against the Republic of Ireland you would think these officials would be more tuned in by now?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: imtommygunn on November 09, 2017, 10:12:35 PM
I don't think saturday will see adventure. Tuesday will depend on what happens saturday i suspect!

No adventure over the 180 at all. It’s gonig to be the same old guts and glory, hoofball approach. It’s brought us this far res no chance we’re about to change.

A 2-0 or more lead to denmark might see something but would prefer not to see that.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: seafoid on November 09, 2017, 10:17:57 PM
What he has done with ni is one of the better jobs you would see in world football irrespective of outcome here.

Iceland, playing better football and off a population less than half that of Belfast, is far more impressive. All three island teams have done well recently.

Yeah but as well as anything here has rugby, gaa, hockey etc. and not everyone in ni wants to play for Ni. Agree though iceland doing fantastic and arguably better.
Switzerland are a much better team. They are also better at cross community relations.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Syferus on November 09, 2017, 10:22:49 PM
What he has done with ni is one of the better jobs you would see in world football irrespective of outcome here.

Iceland, playing better football and off a population less than half that of Belfast, is far more impressive. All three island teams have done well recently.

Yeah but as well as anything here has rugby, gaa, hockey etc. and not everyone in ni wants to play for Ni. Agree though iceland doing fantastic and arguably better.
Switzerland are a much better team. They are also better at cross community relations.

They’re also very friendly with big business, though, Sea. That should surely count massively against them in your viewing.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ashman on November 09, 2017, 10:33:23 PM
If the officials got those penalty decision correct Northern Ireland providing they scored their penalty would have won that game 1-0 putting them in a great position to win this tie. After the Henry hand ball against the Republic of Ireland you would think these officials would be more tuned in by now?

 Ireland were well  beat outplayed tonight and the writing was on the wall .

They still have a small , very small chance .
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: seafoid on November 09, 2017, 10:43:52 PM
What he has done with ni is one of the better jobs you would see in world football irrespective of outcome here.

Iceland, playing better football and off a population less than half that of Belfast, is far more impressive. All three island teams have done well recently.

Yeah but as well as anything here has rugby, gaa, hockey etc. and not everyone in ni wants to play for Ni. Agree though iceland doing fantastic and arguably better.
Switzerland are a much better team. They are also better at cross community relations.

They’re also very friendly with big business, though, Sea. That should surely count massively against them in your viewing.
I don't know if they are as neoliberal as you, Syf.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 09, 2017, 10:46:29 PM
If the officials got those penalty decision correct Northern Ireland providing they scored their penalty would have won that game 1-0 putting them in a great position to win this tie. After the Henry hand ball against the Republic of Ireland you would think these officials would be more tuned in by now?

 Ireland were well  beat outplayed tonight and the writing was on the wall .

They still have a small , very small chance .
Beaten 1-0 by very dubious penalty. Any chance they had of winning this tie is more or less gone now.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: macdanger2 on November 09, 2017, 10:53:50 PM
Jaysus, just saw the penalty decision there. Unbelievably bad call
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: longballin on November 09, 2017, 10:56:24 PM
Aye terrible penno decision  tho Switzerland played them off the park... be 2 or 3-0 on Sunday
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on November 09, 2017, 11:04:54 PM
Gerry Armstrong gave the worst commentary performance I have ever witnessed.

So bad, it was comical.

On the game itself , norn iron didn’t threaten the Swiss goal and were outclassed. 1-0 was probably a fair result.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on November 09, 2017, 11:13:52 PM
The cow bells are tolling for NI in this tie.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Itchy on November 09, 2017, 11:15:19 PM
Swiss got really bad offside call in 2nd half too which Gerry agreed was clearly offside despite it being clearly onside.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on November 09, 2017, 11:31:05 PM
I watched the game on an ESPN channel, the co commentator said as much that NI were crap and boring, that this a home game and they play as if they are an away team playing for a draw. He even recommenced that viewers turn over to the Croatia v Greece game but had to to turn that into a joke comment after an intervention.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ashman on November 09, 2017, 11:34:29 PM
Gerry Armstrong gave the worst commentary performance I have ever witnessed.

So bad, it was comical.

On the game itself , norn iron didn’t threaten the Swiss goal and were outclassed. 1-0 was probably a fair result.

Gerry was like a local radio commentator doing their home county's championship .   Utterly prejudiced and enjoyable in a funny way .
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Over the Bar on November 09, 2017, 11:44:37 PM
Any poppy fascism on display? 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Capt Pat on November 10, 2017, 01:57:45 AM
The tie is not over yet. A 2-1win for the north in the away leg will be enough.

More importantly I didn't see the game as it was on sky.  Why didn't the BBC or UTV have the game on live?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on November 10, 2017, 03:57:14 AM
Had the Swiss backed at 5/4,and even lumped another few quid on at the 13/8 in play offer not long before they scored.I Had to sweat far too much for my money,they should have score 4 at least

Poppies emblazoned on the black armbands worn by North players,of course

Swiss are 8/15 for the second leg.With North of Ireland compelled to open up and try to score I think I'll put my (second) house on that! In fact I might put both houses on it
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Asal Mor on November 10, 2017, 04:06:12 AM
I was on them too. Shouldnt have needed the ref to give them the game but they did. Would agree that looks a fairly safe 8/15 bet, though experience has taught me to be cautious.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: lurganblue on November 10, 2017, 09:45:14 AM
Swiss got really bad offside call in 2nd half too which Gerry agreed was clearly offside despite it being clearly onside.

haha noticed that too. It was a lovely wee move from the Swiss.  When they played the replay i was wondering was i watching the same footage as Gerry.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on November 10, 2017, 10:24:16 AM
Will the Norn Iron fans be swinging both ways and support the Republic tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on November 10, 2017, 10:49:56 AM
Will the Norn Iron fans be swinging both ways and support the Republic tomorrow night?

I suspect the ones carrying the NI flags, sporting the poppies, and singing 'no surrender' will not be swinging both ways.

The few NI fans that have also attended their county club final are probably swingers.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: clarshack on November 10, 2017, 10:59:15 AM
The tie is not over yet. A 2-1win for the north in the away leg will be enough.

More importantly I didn't see the game as it was on sky.  Why didn't the BBC or UTV have the game on live?

absolutely no chance Northern Ireland are going to outscore the Swiss over in Basel. they didn't even have a shot on target last nite ffs.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Itchy on November 10, 2017, 11:15:20 AM
Swiss got really bad offside call in 2nd half too which Gerry agreed was clearly offside despite it being clearly onside.

haha noticed that too. It was a lovely wee move from the Swiss.  When they played the replay i was wondering was i watching the same footage as Gerry.

Yes - the guy was in on goal and had been a yard onside. Gerry also claimed that was a sign of the Swiss getting complacent because yer man involved did a nice flick. His attempt to claim a peno for them too was so funny, just because the Swiss got an unfair one he reckoned that the other one was handball too despite it not going anywhere near the mans arm.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AQMP on November 10, 2017, 12:35:01 PM
Never a penalty, it seemed to hit Evans on the back?  But NI were really poor.  Looked to be playing for a 0-0 at home.  They definitely didn't play the type of football that got them to the play-offs.  A tough task in Basel but not impossible.  Uncle Tom Armstrong is best avoided at all times.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AQMP on November 10, 2017, 12:35:28 PM
Will the Norn Iron fans be swinging both ways and support the Republic tomorrow night?

Not many.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Syferus on November 10, 2017, 01:04:18 PM
Will the Norn Iron fans be swinging both ways and support the Republic tomorrow night?

Not many.

Can we just watch the match without making this yet another GAABoards sectarian dick measuring contest?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AZOffaly on November 10, 2017, 01:18:15 PM
Gerry Armstrong gave the worst commentary performance I have ever witnessed.

So bad, it was comical.

On the game itself , norn iron didn’t threaten the Swiss goal and were outclassed. 1-0 was probably a fair result.

It was shocking. He is a joke.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: general_lee on November 10, 2017, 01:21:45 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2017, 02:33:39 PM
Watched it last night and Norn Iron tried their best but were a standard or two below what was on offer, the Swiss pressed for most of the match and while the penalty call was horrendous, they were lucky to get beat by one

 or another way to look at it was that the defence was solid and didn't give them much, they had 2 shots on target and one of them was a penalty, plenty of crosses and knock downs for shots but they were blocked out, 64% possession but only 2 shots on target!..the Swiss just had a bit more composure on the ball
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: seafoid on November 10, 2017, 03:03:41 PM
If Germany had won the war everyone would be able to read the following from the Swiss media

https://www.gmx.ch/magazine/sport/fussball/nationalteam-schweiz/nordiren-schweizer-elfermeter-sieg-stinksauer-schlimmer-henry-32622286

Nordiren nach Schweizer Elfermeter-Sieg stinksauer: "Schlimmer als bei Henry"
Aktualisiert am 10.11.2017, 15:20 Uhr
Nach dem Sieg der Schweizer Nati am Donnerstagabend sind die Nordiren stinksauer. Der Schiri hätte etwas gesehen, was gar nicht passiert sei - und dann einen Elfmeter gegeben.

The Nordis are pissed off. Stinksauer. Smelly sour.
The ref saw something that did not happen.  He then gave a peno. Johnny Evans says it is worse than Thierry Henry.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AQMP on November 10, 2017, 03:06:48 PM
Will the Norn Iron fans be swinging both ways and support the Republic tomorrow night?

Not many.

Can we just watch the match without making this yet another GAABoards sectarian dick measuring contest?

It's an IFA thread.  Of course sectarianism is going to come up ;)  Ask Lisa Evans!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: lurganblue on November 10, 2017, 03:11:11 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Rossfan on November 10, 2017, 03:12:38 PM
I presume the DUPIFA still insist on the Lizzie Windsor dirge as the anthem and compulsory  poppy wearing for their " cross Community" team?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Itchy on November 10, 2017, 03:13:24 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on November 10, 2017, 03:22:45 PM
let's see how quickly Joe Brolly's favourite police force reacts
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on November 10, 2017, 03:46:05 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird

Clearly now a heroine of OWC.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: seafoid on November 10, 2017, 03:54:04 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)
Women calling people part of their anatomy must be Stockholm syndrome.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: whitey on November 10, 2017, 05:08:22 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird

Now that is a rant!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: TheOptimist on November 10, 2017, 05:15:45 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird

Now that is a rant!

I seem to remember the folk in the proximity of Windsor Park forcing a number of Romanians out of their homes a few years back. And now they expect them to be grateful  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: TheOptimist on November 10, 2017, 05:25:43 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird

Now that is a rant!

I seem to remember the folk in the proximity of Windsor Park forcing a number of Romanians out of their homes a few years back. And now they expect them to be grateful  ::)

Here it is https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/jun/23/romanians-belfast-racist-attacks

Maybe he was related  :D

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Rossfan on November 10, 2017, 05:35:40 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird

Now that is a rant!

I seem to remember the folk in the proximity of Windsor Park forcing a number of Romanians out of their homes a few years back. And now they expect them to be grateful  ::)
Ethnic cleansing since 1607......
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on November 10, 2017, 05:36:14 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird

Now that is a rant!

Classy for a loyalist Millbag dragged up on the Shore Road, feel sorry for the husband married to that odious ****
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on November 10, 2017, 05:51:10 PM
Will the Norn Iron fans be swinging both ways and support the Republic tomorrow night?

Not many.

Can we just watch the match without making this yet another GAABoards sectarian dick measuring contest?

You didn't watch Big Stevie Nolan's TV show then
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on November 10, 2017, 05:54:56 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird

You'd think she'd have something better to do. Knitting or peeling the spuds or something.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Estimator on November 10, 2017, 06:28:14 PM
CORRY EVANS STATEMENT

'On behalf of my wife, I would like to apologise unreservedly for the content and language contained in the Tweet that she issued last night.

'The comments were published in the heat of the moment and are not representative of her views.'


‘Heat of the moment’ might be when the incident happened or at the final whistle.
She tweeted that at 8:32am the next morning.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on November 10, 2017, 06:54:20 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird

Clearly now a heroine of OWC.

And why do you say that?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: StGallsGAA on November 10, 2017, 08:20:00 PM
Presumably since they interviewed a Pride marcher for a "Fcuk the DUP" poster the PSNI will be paying Mrs Evans a visit as part of an investigation into a hate crime?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: seafoid on November 10, 2017, 08:21:39 PM
Maybe she meant Dracula.
He was a Romanian count.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: under the bar on November 10, 2017, 11:24:22 PM
Maybe she meant Dracula.
He was a Romanian count.

😂😂
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on November 10, 2017, 11:39:53 PM
CORRY EVANS STATEMENT

'On behalf of my wife, I would like to apologise unreservedly for the content and language contained in the Tweet that she issued last night.

'The comments were published in the heat of the moment and are not representative of her views.'


‘Heat of the moment’ might be when the incident happened or at the final whistle.
She tweeted that at 8:32am the next morning.

Ah that explains it - she was on heat.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on November 10, 2017, 11:40:47 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird

Clearly now a heroine of OWC.

And why do you say that?

Guess
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on November 10, 2017, 11:56:10 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird

Clearly now a heroine of OWC.

And why do you say that?

Guess

I’d guess that you’re just being prejudiced without foundation.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on November 11, 2017, 05:35:39 AM
O'Neill will walk away surely after tomorrow night.Shrewd as he is I wouldn't be surprised if he has already done a deal to take the Scotland job.It ticks all the boxes for him,lives there,knows the club scene,enormous potential with Celtic producing a conveyor belt full of home grown talent,and a fanatical support base.

He would work in tandem with Rodgers and Neil Lennon for the mutual benefit of their clubs and the international side too.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)w
Post by: MW on November 11, 2017, 09:29:22 AM
It was an appallingly bad penalty call, worse in its way that infamous Henry and Matadona incidents of years gone by in that it’s worse for a referee to give something that didn’t happen than to miss something that did happen. He guessed, and guessed wrongly. It totally changes the complexion and likely outcome of the tie.

NI were however poor, not getting a shot on target isn’t good enough. Switzerland were obviously superior opposition but we let ourselves down a bit in key areas. It’s hard to see us getting the win we need in Basel.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)w
Post by: laoislad on November 11, 2017, 09:49:57 AM
It was an appallingly bad penalty call, worse in its way that infamous Henry and Matadona incidents of years gone by in that it’s worse for a referee to give something that didn’t happen than to miss something that did happen. He guessed, and guessed wrongly. It totally changes the complexion and likely outcome of the tie.

NI were however poor, not getting a shot on target isn’t good enough. Switzerland were obviously superior opposition but we let ourselves down a bit in key areas. It’s hard to see us getting the win we need in Basel.
It was a very bad call but I don't think it was worse than the Henry or Maradona incidents. It was the same as giving a penalty for diving. Which would also be giving a penalty for something that didn't happen ie a foul.
The main differences though is Ireland were knocked out that night against France and didn't have a second game to try and right the wrong.
N.Ireland still have an opportunity to qualify so it wasn't as much as a game changer as the Henry handball as Ireland only had what was left of extra time to score again.
N.Ireland have a full 90mins and a few days of preparation.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AZOffaly on November 11, 2017, 10:14:58 AM
And a sense of grievance
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)w
Post by: hardstation on November 11, 2017, 10:34:56 AM
It was an appallingly bad penalty call, worse in its way that infamous Henry and Matadona incidents of years gone by in that it’s worse for a referee to give something that didn’t happen than to miss something that did happen. He guessed, and guessed wrongly. It totally changes the complexion and likely outcome of the tie.

NI were however poor, not getting a shot on target isn’t good enough. Switzerland were obviously superior opposition but we let ourselves down a bit in key areas. It’s hard to see us getting the win we need in Basel.
It was a very bad call but I don't think it was worse than the Henry or Maradona incidents. It was the same as giving a penalty for diving. Which would also be giving a penalty for something that didn't happen ie a foul.
The main differences though is Ireland were knocked out that night against France and didn't have a second game to try and right the wrong.
N.Ireland still have an opportunity to qualify so it wasn't as much as a game changer as the Henry handball as Ireland only had what was left of extra time to score again.
N.Ireland have a full 90mins and a few days of preparation.
So, FIFA won't be giving the IFA compensation?

The reaction to Henry's handball was and still is embarrassing for the Irish nation.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)w
Post by: Main Street on November 11, 2017, 11:15:24 AM
It was an appallingly bad penalty call, worse in its way that infamous Henry and Matadona incidents of years gone by in that it’s worse for a referee to give something that didn’t happen than to miss something that did happen. He guessed, and guessed wrongly. It totally changes the complexion and likely outcome of the tie.

NI were however poor, not getting a shot on target isn’t good enough. Switzerland were obviously superior opposition but we let ourselves down a bit in key areas. It’s hard to see us getting the win we need in Basel.
It was a very bad call but I don't think it was worse than the Henry or Maradona incidents. It was the same as giving a penalty for diving. Which would also be giving a penalty for something that didn't happen ie a foul.
The main differences though is Ireland were knocked out that night against France and didn't have a second game to try and right the wrong.
N.Ireland still have an opportunity to qualify so it wasn't as much as a game changer as the Henry handball as Ireland only had what was left of extra time to score again.
N.Ireland have a full 90mins and a few days of preparation.
So, FIFA won't be giving the IFA compensation?

The reaction to Henry's handball was and still is embarrassing for the Irish nation.
And you are the arbitrator of a nation's shame?  :D
 Are you for real?  do you really believe that high horse nonsense?
ffs get a grip onto yourself.
The over-reaction of some (FAI?) is one matter.That doesn't represent a nation or even a minority of fans.
Of course that World Cup play off in Paris would only have gone to penalties, but to lose like that was enough to truly sicken any fan, after such a performance.

As it turned out, it was Blatter who embarrassed himself and brought FIFA into disrepute in an unprecedented manner at that WC draw ceremony, so much so that afterwards FIFA paid Eur5m to the FAI as some form of compensation.

NI were poor against the Swiss and were fortunate enough to only be a goal down at the end.
In all probability they are going to be humped in Switzerland.
If they had lost to a bad penalty award after a dominating performance in the 2nd leg  in Switzerland then one might draw a comparison with the Henry handball.
As it stands now, there is little or no comparison.



Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: hardstation on November 11, 2017, 12:34:38 PM
There is no comparison at all. There is no comparison in the level of outrage being expressed. Thierry Henry handled a ball in a football match. You'd nearly have thought he led the French to invade Ireland and stole all of our worldly goods. It led to all sorts of petitions, campaigns and opened the door for wanton racism on social media. He is still a figure of hate, laughably. It was and still is amazingly cringeworthy.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)w
Post by: stew on November 11, 2017, 01:03:03 PM
It was an appallingly bad penalty call, worse in its way that infamous Henry and Matadona incidents of years gone by in that it’s worse for a referee to give something that didn’t happen than to miss something that did happen. He guessed, and guessed wrongly. It totally changes the complexion and likely outcome of the tie.

NI were however poor, not getting a shot on target isn’t good enough. Switzerland were obviously superior opposition but we let ourselves down a bit in key areas. It’s hard to see us getting the win we need in Basel.


The Swiss were going to win this tie going away, they should have had a penalty that they did not get, they never gave the six a sniff of a shot on target and they are at home in the rubber match, a 3-0 loss is the best the north can hope for but I wish Evans could get that disgraceful yellow rescinded, he deserves to play given the awful decision that got him that yellow. One last thing, I hope the Swiss stuff the hoors, an awful lot of owc people supporting that bimbo Evans after her rant, showed their true colours.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on November 11, 2017, 01:20:49 PM
Where are you finding all these people supporting her? I haven’t met, spoken to or read online a single one. Including fan forums on OWC and ILS.

Calling him a “Romanian gypsy c**t” was of course a terrible, appalling thing to say. He’s a c**t who happens to be from Romania.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)w
Post by: MW on November 11, 2017, 01:27:53 PM
It was an appallingly bad penalty call, worse in its way that infamous Henry and Matadona incidents of years gone by in that it’s worse for a referee to give something that didn’t happen than to miss something that did happen. He guessed, and guessed wrongly. It totally changes the complexion and likely outcome of the tie.

NI were however poor, not getting a shot on target isn’t good enough. Switzerland were obviously superior opposition but we let ourselves down a bit in key areas. It’s hard to see us getting the win we need in Basel.
It was a very bad call but I don't think it was worse than the Henry or Maradona incidents. It was the same as giving a penalty for diving. Which would also be giving a penalty for something that didn't happen ie a foul.
The main differences though is Ireland were knocked out that night against France and didn't have a second game to try and right the wrong.
N.Ireland still have an opportunity to qualify so it wasn't as much as a game changer as the Henry handball as Ireland only had what was left of extra time to score again.
N.Ireland have a full 90mins and a few days of preparation.

Agree that the repercussions and decisiveness of the Henry handball were (immediately at any rate) worse.

I mean specifically from a refereeing point of view, it’s worse to invent something that didn’t happen than to miss something that did. Missing the ball crossing the line for example isn’t as bad for a referee as giving a goal when it hasn’t crossed the line.

Diving is a little bit different, in that the “diver” actually simulates a real foul to deliberately deceive the referee. Still doesn’t excuse giving it, but the ref in that instance is being taken in by a deliberate deception designed to look like a foul.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on November 11, 2017, 02:18:04 PM
Where are you finding all these people supporting her? I haven’t met, spoken to or read online a single one. Including fan forums on OWC and ILS.

Calling him a “Romanian gypsy c**t” was of course a terrible, appalling thing to say. He’s a c**t who happens to be from Romania.

Facebook.

They are not fans from the the supporters clubs but they are fans and a lot of the comments are arrogant and repugnant, the hypocrisy is staggering, the very same people that laughed and mocked the Republic after the Henry incident are screaming about the penalty and the injustice of it all, of course all the while agreeing with that racist bitch Evans, there are hundreds of comments agreeing with this woman from so called supporters!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2017, 03:47:44 PM
Where are you finding all these people supporting her? I haven’t met, spoken to or read online a single one. Including fan forums on OWC and ILS.

Calling him a “Romanian gypsy c**t” was of course a terrible, appalling thing to say. He’s a c**t who happens to be from Romania.

Facebook.

They are not fans from the the supporters clubs but they are fans and a lot of the comments are arrogant and repugnant, the hypocrisy is staggering, the very same people that laughed and mocked the Republic after the Henry incident are screaming about the penalty and the injustice of it all, of course all the while agreeing with that racist bitch Evans, there are hundreds of comments agreeing with this woman from so called supporters!

For someone who wouldn’t watch the ni team if they were playing in his back garden you’ve done posts on them lately!

Stew you don’t like them do why don’t you feck off to another thread, big game tonight to concentrate your enthusiasm!

As already said with the French knocked Ireland out Henry was given dogs abuse including racial by, yes you guessed it Irish supporters!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Over the Bar on November 11, 2017, 05:47:22 PM
Quote
Calling him a “Romanian gypsy c**t” was of course a terrible, appalling thing to say. He’s a c**t who happens to be from Romania
:-X
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on November 11, 2017, 08:55:38 PM
Where are you finding all these people supporting her? I haven’t met, spoken to or read online a single one. Including fan forums on OWC and ILS.

Calling him a “Romanian gypsy c**t” was of course a terrible, appalling thing to say. He’s a c**t who happens to be from Romania.

Facebook.

They are not fans from the the supporters clubs but they are fans and a lot of the comments are arrogant and repugnant, the hypocrisy is staggering, the very same people that laughed and mocked the Republic after the Henry incident are screaming about the penalty and the injustice of it all, of course all the while agreeing with that racist bitch Evans, there are hundreds of comments agreeing with this woman from so called supporters!

For someone who wouldn’t watch the ni team if they were playing in his back garden you’ve done posts on them lately!

Stew you don’t like them do why don’t you feck off to another thread, big game tonight to concentrate your enthusiasm!

As already said with the French knocked Ireland out Henry was given dogs abuse including racial by, yes you guessed it Irish supporters!

I always wanted them to win, no longer.

Its a discussion board ffs!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on November 11, 2017, 09:29:40 PM
Corry Evans’ wife wasn’t too happy with the ref  :-\

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-41945723)

Classy bird

Clearly now a heroine of OWC.

And why do you say that?

Guess

I’d guess that you’re just being prejudiced without foundation.

Plenty of evidence on Twitter
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on November 11, 2017, 10:17:52 PM
So whenever you said “heroine of OWC”, you meant “heroine of some fuckwits on social media”.

Wouldn’t it just be easier to say what you mean?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on November 11, 2017, 10:25:37 PM
Where are you finding all these people supporting her? I haven’t met, spoken to or read online a single one. Including fan forums on OWC and ILS.

Calling him a “Romanian gypsy c**t” was of course a terrible, appalling thing to say. He’s a c**t who happens to be from Romania.

Facebook.

They are not fans from the the supporters clubs but they are fans and a lot of the comments are arrogant and repugnant, the hypocrisy is staggering, the very same people that laughed and mocked the Republic after the Henry incident are screaming about the penalty and the injustice of it all, of course all the while agreeing with that racist bitch Evans, there are hundreds of comments agreeing with this woman from so called supporters!

Stew, the denizens of those comments pages on Facebook are simply the “best” place find the dregs of any supporter base or indeed social group. As MR2 alludes to above, you’d be wanting every single football team to lose if you went by what some of their (often self-proclaimed) fans said on Facebook groups. It’s an appalling vortex of trash and hatred, and the threads on NI/ROI alone are enough to make you despair for this island and indeed humanity.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Orior on November 11, 2017, 10:35:23 PM
So whenever you said “heroine of OWC”, you meant “heroine of some fuckwits on social media”.

Wouldn’t it just be easier to say what you mean?

Okay, heroine of some OWC fuckwits on social media
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on November 12, 2017, 10:56:48 AM
Where are you finding all these people supporting her? I haven’t met, spoken to or read online a single one. Including fan forums on OWC and ILS.

Calling him a “Romanian gypsy c**t” was of course a terrible, appalling thing to say. He’s a c**t who happens to be from Romania.

Facebook.

They are not fans from the the supporters clubs but they are fans and a lot of the comments are arrogant and repugnant, the hypocrisy is staggering, the very same people that laughed and mocked the Republic after the Henry incident are screaming about the penalty and the injustice of it all, of course all the while agreeing with that racist bitch Evans, there are hundreds of comments agreeing with this woman from so called supporters!

Stew, the denizens of those comments pages on Facebook are simply the “best” place find the dregs of any supporter base or indeed social group. As MR2 alludes to above, you’d be wanting every single football team to lose if you went by what some of their (often self-proclaimed) fans said on Facebook groups. It’s an appalling vortex of trash and hatred, and the threads on NI/ROI alone are enough to make you despair for this island and indeed humanity.

I did say these were not the supporters club supporters, those lads do their best to kill any sectarian shit they see/Hear and I applaud them for that, I am from the north and never gave a damn that a lot of people had no time for the NI team.

This is different, here we have the wife of a player, long after the game is over, going on a hatefilled rant against a referee who did her team no favours, instead of condemning the comments what do supporters of the NI yteam do? An awful lot of them not only agree with her they double down on her comments and make the situation worse.

I have seen first hand the IFS's efforts of improving their image and efforts of inclusivity and I commend them for it, for me however it is simply the tipping point over years, decades of bigotry and hatred by so called fans that want nothing to do with anyone with differnt political views than they do, they win sadly and I hope the sterling work being done in the NI SC and at the IFA continues on becaue it is starting to make an impact, I have seen that at Armagh City and I am delighted to see it.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 12, 2017, 05:47:05 PM
Northern Ireland hanging on in this tie by their finger nails.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on November 12, 2017, 05:49:26 PM
Ffs they are doing ok.In fact if they score they will go through,Swiss crap in front of goal.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: seafoid on November 12, 2017, 06:02:40 PM
Null null at half time. Not bod.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: GJL on November 12, 2017, 06:09:16 PM
Null null at half time. Not bod.
😂
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on November 12, 2017, 06:14:41 PM
There is no comparison at all. There is no comparison in the level of outrage being expressed. Thierry Henry handled a ball in a football match. You'd nearly have thought he led the French to invade Ireland and stole all of our worldly goods. It led to all sorts of petitions, campaigns and opened the door for wanton racism on social media. He is still a figure of hate, laughably. It was and still is amazingly cringeworthy.
Social media hate towards Henry??  get a grip ffs,
Even you can make moronic statements on social media.
The dogs on the street heard about the  Henry hand ball, it was huge news  that went around the world many times over.  You didn't give a shíte about the Irish team and their world cup dreams, that's fair enough, but it appears that sneering is your forte and some lofty ambitions  to claiming a moral high ground.
Henry is not a figure of hate in Ireland, he was a character in a drama played out years ago, the officials didn't get it at the time and regretted it. The players said nothing ill towards Henry at that time and not since. It's a drama from the past and Henry can't be tippexed out from the graphic. He's a part of Irish football folklore, a pantomime figure to be quasi mocked,  not unlike the Romanian goalie Lung or the Timofte who missed the penalty from 1990.

 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 06:21:49 PM
He was verbal abused, racially and you know it, tired of hearing how the Irish are snowshite ! Take your tainted glasses off
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: seafoid on November 12, 2017, 06:27:32 PM
Guardian

69 min: Northern Ireland are on top at the moment. Switzerland are looking ropey and nervy.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 12, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
That awful award of a penalty is looking like the only goal of the two 2 legs.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: seafoid on November 12, 2017, 06:38:04 PM
Switzerland are psychologically flaky if NI can get into a good position.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: clarshack on November 12, 2017, 06:43:03 PM
that seferovic guy is completely useless
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 12, 2017, 06:50:44 PM
Switzerland wouldn't have scored from open play if they played another two games, Northern Ireland won't get many better opportunities to reach a World cup than that. The pitch was a joke for such a high profile game.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: longballin on November 12, 2017, 06:52:32 PM
Played off the field first game cost them... be some girning now  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: clarshack on November 12, 2017, 06:52:42 PM
norn iron had their big chance to score. cleared off the line from the swiss in injury time.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 12, 2017, 06:54:43 PM
Played off the field first game cost them... be some girning now  ::)
No the officials seeing a foul on that penalty in the first game cost them
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on November 12, 2017, 06:55:18 PM
Why didn't they play like that in the first leg. That boy Jones who came on was shite
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Ronnie on November 12, 2017, 07:03:02 PM
Enthralling 0-0 game. Few idiots with jacks. Might bring one down Tues night to support the Londonderry wans..
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bennydorano on November 12, 2017, 07:06:56 PM
Played well and always an entertaining side to watch. Gerry Armstrong is a total wab. Davis is real quality.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Main Street on November 12, 2017, 07:21:53 PM
Even though the Swiss missed about 6 gilt edged chances to score, NI were a very different proposition this evening, a lot more positive and confident. In the end they had a very decent chance to bring it to ET.
That late Swiss sub Embolo was a breath of fresh air,  so un-Swiss like in everything he did.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2017, 07:27:01 PM
Think NI had more chances on target away from home against a team 14 places better off than them.. as already said the Swiss did a job on NI in Windsor and NI played on the back foot in that game... be down hill for the NI team now, if O’Neil goes and the others retire be very difficult to replace
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: ONeill on November 12, 2017, 07:49:22 PM
O'Neill got the tactics back to front.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: bannside on November 12, 2017, 08:11:54 PM
Michael got the right result. Off he can go to manage Scotland on three times the salary!

NI played at a level tonight I actually didn't think they were capable of. Fair to say they bossed most of that game. Well done to Michael for getting the best out of them...thats all any manager can do.

Plus he has got a big cloud hanging over him at present in his personal life that will help put tonight's disappointment for himself into perspective.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on November 13, 2017, 08:22:56 AM
Wow, why the hell did they not play like that at home?

The Swiss seriously rode their luck after failing to put away five or six great chances, they could have went out.

Davis was the best player on the field, tremendous example set by him, the north will regroup and will be serious contenders to make the Euros.

Well played lads, unlucky but overall the Swiss are in a different class.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Billys Boots on November 13, 2017, 09:28:55 AM
Played well and always an entertaining side to watch. Gerry Armstrong is a total wab. Davis is real quality.

+3
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: GJL on November 13, 2017, 10:01:13 AM
If a team can't score a single goal in 180+ minutes then they can have no complaints about exiting a competition.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Denn Forever on November 13, 2017, 11:07:30 AM
If a team can't score a single goal in 180+ minutes then they can have no complaints about exiting a competition.

Going on our Performance in the first tie, we may be saying the same.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: MW on November 13, 2017, 10:49:58 PM
If a team can't score a single goal in 180+ minutes then they can have no complaints about exiting a competition.

They can when their opponents would have been in the same position but for an outrageous penalty decision (and should have played 85 minutes of the first leg with 10 men).

Still gutted after yesterday but very proud of how the team went about the game. The what might have been a on the penalty, the red card not given, and the first leg performance and approach will, sadly, last for years.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on November 13, 2017, 10:58:36 PM
Sadly it took a courageous English jounalist,Daily Mirror's Kevin Maguire to raise the issue of the addition of No Surrender,to the English national anthem last Thursday at Windsor Park. He explained on BBC Talkback on Friday that he could see why a whole commmunity is alienated by this and other things,and why they won't support the team.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stew on November 14, 2017, 10:21:59 AM
If a team can't score a single goal in 180+ minutes then they can have no complaints about exiting a competition.

They can when their opponents would have been in the same position but for an outrageous penalty decision (and should have played 85 minutes of the first leg with 10 men).

Still gutted after yesterday but very proud of how the team went about the game. The what might have been a on the penalty, the red card not given, and the first leg performance and approach will, sadly, last for years.

Look, decisions go for you and against you, shit happens and I am not having that as an excuse, youse were played off the park in the first leg, at home and failure to show up killed you.

As for your last comment I could not agree more, the approach to the first leg was a disgrace frankly, and I am an admirer of the manager, that was shocking and ultimately did you all in.


As for compensation for getting knocked out by a dubious penalty....................................................... :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nrico2006 on November 14, 2017, 10:38:21 AM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2017, 10:42:21 AM
You can have all the possession in the world a play a team off the park but if you can’t put the ball in the net and rely on ref mistake you’d need to question your own tactics, the Swiss only had 2 shots on target at Windsor..
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on November 14, 2017, 10:43:13 AM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: screenexile on November 14, 2017, 11:09:09 AM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 14, 2017, 12:17:07 PM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

I'd say there is only two real NI fans here on the board and fair play to them, so let them sob, if i was a supporter of a team and they were dealt that hand I'd be gurnning too.. for the record i was cheering them on as they as i like the way they have played these last few years under Michael..
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: armaghniac on November 14, 2017, 12:22:46 PM
Northern Ireland has a good spell every 25 years or so. You can understand that this could be the end of an era, since NI itself might not last another 25 years.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Horse Box on November 14, 2017, 06:45:19 PM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Well said !
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on November 14, 2017, 07:40:45 PM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nrico2006 on November 15, 2017, 09:41:13 AM
People still crying about Henry all these years later; obviously have got over it. 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: screenexile on November 15, 2017, 09:49:21 AM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?

I'm not talking about you in particular but the whole country/media lost its marbles at the time. Much worse than the North complained about the non handball!
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on November 15, 2017, 11:40:31 AM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?

I'm not talking about you in particular but the whole country/media lost its marbles at the time. Much worse than the North complained about the non handball!

Yes I remember. What people forget is that at 1-1, Ireland still needed to score again to qualify. The Henry incident changed very little. Had Ireland scored again, they'd have qualified anyway, on away goals. They couldn't get another, so they didn't qualify. Move on.

Norn Iron couldn't score in 2 games. Even if the ref hadn't awarded that penalty, they would've needed to score to qualify. They didn't, so didn't qualify. Again, move on.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nrico2006 on November 15, 2017, 01:09:50 PM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?

I'm not talking about you in particular but the whole country/media lost its marbles at the time. Much worse than the North complained about the non handball!

Yes I remember. What people forget is that at 1-1, Ireland still needed to score again to qualify. The Henry incident changed very little. Had Ireland scored again, they'd have qualified anyway, on away goals. They couldn't get another, so they didn't qualify. Move on.

Norn Iron couldn't score in 2 games. Even if the ref hadn't awarded that penalty, they would've needed to score to qualify. They didn't, so didn't qualify. Again, move on.

They didn't need to score, a draw would have led to penalties and they could have gone through without scoring. 
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: NetNitrate on November 15, 2017, 02:34:09 PM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?

I'm not talking about you in particular but the whole country/media lost its marbles at the time. Much worse than the North complained about the non handball!

Yes I remember. What people forget is that at 1-1, Ireland still needed to score again to qualify. The Henry incident changed very little. Had Ireland scored again, they'd have qualified anyway, on away goals. They couldn't get another, so they didn't qualify. Move on.


The Henry goal changed everything. It was scored in 104th minute of extra time and left Ireland with little time to score. Had the goal been correctly disallowed, the game would have went to penalties.

It differed from the NI penalty, in that Henry cheated. The NI penalty was a bad ref call - every team suffers bad calls. We lost out on qualification for WCs because of bad calls - the Frank Stapleton goal against Belgium for 1982, etc.

Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: longballin on November 15, 2017, 02:36:24 PM
I'd rather get thumped like last nite than robbed... the Tierry Henry incident hurt for ages. Last nite like water off a duck's back. Northern Ireland boys pining which is great consolation  8)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on November 15, 2017, 05:50:16 PM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?

I'm not talking about you in particular but the whole country/media lost its marbles at the time. Much worse than the North complained about the non handball!

Yes I remember. What people forget is that at 1-1, Ireland still needed to score again to qualify. The Henry incident changed very little. Had Ireland scored again, they'd have qualified anyway, on away goals. They couldn't get another, so they didn't qualify. Move on.

Norn Iron couldn't score in 2 games. Even if the ref hadn't awarded that penalty, they would've needed to score to qualify. They didn't, so didn't qualify. Again, move on.

They didn't need to score, a draw would have led to penalties and they could have gone through without scoring.

Yes, but there was no guarantee they'd win the shoot out.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on November 15, 2017, 06:07:32 PM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?

I'm not talking about you in particular but the whole country/media lost its marbles at the time. Much worse than the North complained about the non handball!

Yes I remember. What people forget is that at 1-1, Ireland still needed to score again to qualify. The Henry incident changed very little. Had Ireland scored again, they'd have qualified anyway, on away goals. They couldn't get another, so they didn't qualify. Move on.


The Henry goal changed everything. It was scored in 104th minute of extra time and left Ireland with little time to score. Had the goal been correctly disallowed, the game would have went to penalties.

It differed from the NI penalty, in that Henry cheated. The NI penalty was a bad ref call - every team suffers bad calls. We lost out on qualification for WCs because of bad calls - the Frank Stapleton goal against Belgium for 1982, etc.

Ireland went 1-0 up after 33 minutes, so thats nearly 90 more minutes to get another, not 16 minutes.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: nrico2006 on November 16, 2017, 08:52:07 AM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?

I'm not talking about you in particular but the whole country/media lost its marbles at the time. Much worse than the North complained about the non handball!

Yes I remember. What people forget is that at 1-1, Ireland still needed to score again to qualify. The Henry incident changed very little. Had Ireland scored again, they'd have qualified anyway, on away goals. They couldn't get another, so they didn't qualify. Move on.

Norn Iron couldn't score in 2 games. Even if the ref hadn't awarded that penalty, they would've needed to score to qualify. They didn't, so didn't qualify. Again, move on.

They didn't need to score, a draw would have led to penalties and they could have gone through without scoring.

Yes, but there was no guarantee they'd win the shoot out.

No guarantee they'd lose it either.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: tiempo on November 16, 2017, 10:10:44 AM
The North getting put out due to a mistake by the referee is a sickener to be honest.  Switzerland didn't beat NI, the ref did.

I don't recall the ref scoring the penalty.

Seriously, NI didn't make it. Boo hoo, I won't be losing any sleep over it. Can't believe the sob stories over this.

Do you remember Henry's handball??!!

Yes I do. And I got over it 10 minutes later.

Anyway, there's reason to get annoyed at something when your own team is involved. Very few have any affiliation to Norn Iron on here, so why would you care?

I'm not talking about you in particular but the whole country/media lost its marbles at the time. Much worse than the North complained about the non handball!

Yes I remember. What people forget is that at 1-1, Ireland still needed to score again to qualify. The Henry incident changed very little. Had Ireland scored again, they'd have qualified anyway, on away goals. They couldn't get another, so they didn't qualify. Move on.

Norn Iron couldn't score in 2 games. Even if the ref hadn't awarded that penalty, they would've needed to score to qualify. They didn't, so didn't qualify. Again, move on.

They didn't need to score, a draw would have led to penalties and they could have gone through without scoring.

Yes, but there was no guarantee they'd win the shoot out.

No guarantee they'd lose it either.

No guarantee they'd score in the shootout.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: gallsman on November 16, 2017, 11:23:19 AM
How is this still going. At first it was a joke but now there's actual genuine moaning about it.

I always chose to blame Paul McShane over Henry.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: AQMP on November 16, 2017, 12:02:14 PM
Michael O'Neill to Scotland?  On the face if it, it makes sense.  More money, he lives in Scotland and maybe has taken NI as far as he can?
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: supersub on November 16, 2017, 04:41:26 PM
Ireland and Northern Ireland both didn't qualify because they are nowhere near good enough. Squads of average and below average lower league players.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on November 16, 2017, 05:36:28 PM
Michael O'Neill to Scotland?  On the face if it, it makes sense.  More money, he lives in Scotland and maybe has taken NI as far as he can?
If he  goes, it can only really be for the money.  He will be unlikely to take Scotland any further than last 16 in a Euros or World Cup. Scotland fans also have an over-inflated belief in their team's abilities, so much more pressure too.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on November 16, 2017, 05:43:32 PM
Michael O'Neill to Scotland?  On the face if it, it makes sense.  More money, he lives in Scotland and maybe has taken NI as far as he can?
If he  goes, it can only really be for the money.  He will be unlikely to take Scotland any further than last 16 in a Euros or World Cup. Scotland fans also have an over-inflated belief in their team's abilities, so much more pressure too.

Scotland Havnt been to a major tournament in 20 years. For o Neill to get them to the euros, this would undoubtedly add to his reputation.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on November 16, 2017, 06:00:33 PM
Michael O'Neill to Scotland?  On the face if it, it makes sense.  More money, he lives in Scotland and maybe has taken NI as far as he can?
If he  goes, it can only really be for the money.  He will be unlikely to take Scotland any further than last 16 in a Euros or World Cup. Scotland fans also have an over-inflated belief in their team's abilities, so much more pressure too.

Scotland Havnt been to a major tournament in 20 years. For o Neill to get them to the euros, this would undoubtedly add to his reputation.
I don't think it would, particularly as it is now much easier to qualify for the Euros.  Having success at a club team would have a much bigger impact on his reputation. Going to Scotland would be a (lucrative) sideways step.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on November 16, 2017, 08:42:30 PM
Michael O'Neill to Scotland?  On the face if it, it makes sense.  More money, he lives in Scotland and maybe has taken NI as far as he can?
If he  goes, it can only really be for the money.  He will be unlikely to take Scotland any further than last 16 in a Euros or World Cup. Scotland fans also have an over-inflated belief in their team's abilities, so much more pressure too.

Scotland Havnt been to a major tournament in 20 years. For o Neill to get them to the euros, this would undoubtedly add to his reputation.
I don't think it would, particularly as it is now much easier to qualify for the Euros.  Having success at a club team would have a much bigger impact on his reputation. Going to Scotland would be a (lucrative) sideways step.

Is he related to Finn McCool?  :o
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on November 16, 2017, 09:06:37 PM
Michael O'Neill to Scotland?  On the face if it, it makes sense.  More money, he lives in Scotland and maybe has taken NI as far as he can?
If he  goes, it can only really be for the money.  He will be unlikely to take Scotland any further than last 16 in a Euros or World Cup. Scotland fans also have an over-inflated belief in their team's abilities, so much more pressure too.
Didn't mean geographically.

Scotland Havnt been to a major tournament in 20 years. For o Neill to get them to the euros, this would undoubtedly add to his reputation.
I don't think it would, particularly as it is now much easier to qualify for the Euros.  Having success at a club team would have a much bigger impact on his reputation. Going to Scotland would be a (lucrative) sideways step.

Is he related to Finn McCool?  :o
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: stiffler on November 16, 2017, 09:31:13 PM
Michael O'Neill to Scotland?  On the face if it, it makes sense.  More money, he lives in Scotland and maybe has taken NI as far as he can?
If he  goes, it can only really be for the money.  He will be unlikely to take Scotland any further than last 16 in a Euros or World Cup. Scotland fans also have an over-inflated belief in their team's abilities, so much more pressure too.

Scotland Havnt been to a major tournament in 20 years. For o Neill to get them to the euros, this would undoubtedly add to his reputation.
I don't think it would, particularly as it is now much easier to qualify for the Euros.  Having success at a club team would have a much bigger impact on his reputation. Going to Scotland would be a (lucrative) sideways step.

Would have to disagree on the sideways step. Scotland job would be seen as a upward step (albeit not a great leap) from his current post, and one I don’t think many could blame him for should he take it.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on November 17, 2017, 05:43:06 AM
Huge potential with the Scotland job,particularly with the supply of talent from Celtic.Brilliant fans,bigger stadium,he lives there,it's a no brainer
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on November 17, 2017, 07:19:25 AM
Huge potential with the Scotland job,particularly with the supply of talent from Celtic.Brilliant fans,bigger stadium,he lives there,it's a no brainer
Interesting how you spend your time on here trolling Nationalists and Republicans about your apparent belief in a semi-autonomus state of Northern Ireland, yet spend the rest of your time trolling NI fans on social media.  You would imagine that, given your support of the former, you would support the NI football team.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: Rossfan on November 17, 2017, 07:52:42 AM
Huge potential with the Scotland job,particularly with the supply of talent from Celtic.Brilliant fans,bigger stadium,he lives there,it's a no brainer
Interesting how you spend your time on here trolling Nationalists and Republicans about your apparent belief in a semi-autonomus state of Northern Ireland, yet spend the rest of your time trolling NI fans on social media.  You would imagine that, given your support of the former, you would support the NI football team.

 :D ;D
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: T Fearon on November 17, 2017, 12:50:35 PM
MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: michaelg on November 17, 2017, 05:01:46 PM
MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit
Err, you were at a Linfield game and not a Northern Ireland game.  As such, your rather unpleasant experience which you describe above, has hee-haw to do with watching Northern Ireland at the 'National Stadium at Windsor Park'.
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: red hander on November 17, 2017, 05:09:58 PM
MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit

You still pedalling this deluded shite  ::)
Title: Re: Official Irish Football Association Thread (Northern Ireland)
Post by: BennyCake on November 17, 2017, 06:16:45 PM
MW A football team like the current IFA one,using exclusively Unionist symbols and whose fans add the No Surrender lyric to the National Anthem they steal from the English team,would be obsolete in any independent North.Indeed that is the whole point of making the North independent, i.e. Removing the competing allegiances to two different sovereign territories,neither of whom wants nor understands us,and which causes such division and dysfunction,and will always make one community a winner and the other a loser,in their own psyches.

By the way I experienced the unrelenting sectarianism of Windsor Park (after a gap of 20 years) at the recent Linfield V Celtic tie.It was so bad a guy I knew asked the stewards to escort him and his grown up sons out of the stadium early in the second half,and took shameful abuse on the way out when the penny finally dropped with the hordes of the reason for his escort to the exit

Anthem? Flag? Would ireland fans be happy to dilute identity to the team to keep Norn Iron fans satisfied? Another Phil Coulter monstrosity "anthem" perhaps? Where would Norn Iron fans Union flegs fit in at the Avivi? Or maybe matches should be played in Windsor? There's be 3 sets of fans to keep apart too. Would there have to be a 50:50 team split with north/South players?

These sort of incidents were the sort of things that went on decades ago, that caused the split in the first place.