This just released...
Ryan Tubridy - €495,000
Ray D'Arcy - €450,000
Joe Duffy - €398,000
Sean O'Rourke - €308,964
Marian Finucane - €300,167
Miriam O'Callaghan - €299,000
Claire Byrne - €216,000
Bryan Dobson - €198,600
George Hamilton - €186,195
Mary Wilson - €185,679
I am all for talent getting rewarded but can I ask who is going to try to poach anyone there? Marian coughs her way through two chats a week.
Even more amazed that George Hamilton, who I like, is on that. What does he actually do??
There needs to be a clear-out and a new generation on 50% less brought in.
There is a girl currently presenting the lottery show that looks a lot like Biddy and Miley's daughter from 20 years ago. Anybody seen this?
How much is my friend Sharon Ni Bheolain getting?
Does George Hamilton have to turn up at work every day, even though he could go weeks without a commentary gig?
It is Biddy and Miley's daughter. Has she been on the payroll for the 20 years interim ;D
I'd expect that RTE's bean counters have very much worked out what is a sustainable salary vs advertising revenue for their star celebrities.
Ray D'Arcy steals a f*cking living. 🤬🤬🤬
He steals about 14 livings!
Back during the boom PK took home 950k and Gerry Ryan 676k and trickled down (if thats the right term) handsomely after that. The comparison to their only Irish rival - TV3 - was stark to say the least.
What is the justification for these salaries? As the OP says, it can't be to 'keep the talent' cos no TV company whatsoever would shell out 400-500k for plonkers like D'Arcy, Tubs or Duffy.
Offer them 100k each and let them fcuk off into the sunset if they don't like it.
So what? I'm sure everyone here is trying to get paid as well as possible. And the usual solution applies - if you think they're overpaid, apply for their job...
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 08:32:57 AM
So what? I'm sure everyone here is trying to get paid as well as possible. And the usual solution applies - if you think they're overpaid, apply for their job...
Straw man city here.
I'd rather apply for their boss's job to be honest...
Do, then maybe you wouldn't run round giving out about what other people earn
I see Buff Egan finds it all DISGRACEFUL.
Thoroughly entertaining stuff.
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 09:24:21 AM
Do, then maybe you wouldn't run round giving out about what other people earn
Jesus, I've hit a nerve here anyway! Why does that annoy you so much? Do you find it offensive or what?
I see it as being the same as the government overpaying for any service... it should be stopped.
Would I be allowed to comment if the company that supplied the cameras had stroked RTE also? Or is it just cos these jokers have got a face/voice that you recognise??
I hardly recognise any of them, and I've very little time for those I do (altho 'danger here' george is associated with many great memories).
I just resent the ever more common hypocritical populist outcry over other peoples wealth.
You're a haranguer of haranguers!!
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 10:29:08 AM
I hardly recognise any of them, and I've very little time for those I do (altho 'danger here' george is associated with many great memories).
I just resent the ever more common hypocritical populist outcry over other peoples wealth.
Agree in general, but if they're getting paid by the taxpayer, then people have a right to have their say
No Des Cahill or Marty Morrissey? Now there are two fellas stealing a living
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 10:29:08 AM
I hardly recognise any of them, and I've very little time for those I do (altho 'danger here' george is associated with many great memories).
I just resent the ever more common hypocritical populist outcry over other peoples wealth.
A poor haranguer to boot.
You do understand the difference between people's wealth and people's salaries? (Which we pay, incidentally). Nobody mentioned these people's wealth.
What's your view on pharma companies overcharging state health agencies for drugs? I take it you are happy with that? After all, to follow your own logic, they are only people who are 'trying to get paid as well as possible'. ::)
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 08:32:57 AM
So what? I'm sure everyone here is trying to get paid as well as possible. And the usual solution applies - if you think they're overpaid, apply for their job...
If they want to pay them such big wages that's one thing, but the fact that the quality of programming is in constant decline (look forward to another Christmas season of repeats they'll be putting on) and they have lost so much of the sports rights they enjoyed in the past suggests that the money (which is substantially provided by us taxpayers lest we forget) could be put to better use.
Quote from: Franko on December 13, 2018, 10:51:45 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 10:29:08 AM
I hardly recognise any of them, and I've very little time for those I do (altho 'danger here' george is associated with many great memories).
I just resent the ever more common hypocritical populist outcry over other peoples wealth.
A poor haranguer to boot.
You do understand the difference between people's wealth and people's salaries? (Which we pay, incidentally). Nobody mentioned these people's wealth.
What's your view on pharma companies overcharging state health agencies for drugs? I take it you are happy with that? After all, to follow your own logic, they are only people who are 'trying to get paid as well as possible'. ::)
You understand that my statement was generalising? And its not a massive leap to correlate high salaries and wealth, is it?
Re the situation you describe, define over-charging. Are the drugs available elsewhere cheaper? If they are, that would be a procurement failing.
Are the drugs not available elsewhere? Then the pharma company can and will charge a premium to cover the development of the drug. To what level however, can and should be regulated, if not, that's a regulation failing.
But I'm sure if you were a pharma boss you'd take the living wage and give the drugs out freely ::)
Quote from: whitey on December 13, 2018, 10:38:54 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 10:29:08 AM
I hardly recognise any of them, and I've very little time for those I do (altho 'danger here' george is associated with many great memories).
I just resent the ever more common hypocritical populist outcry over other peoples wealth.
Agree in general, but if they're getting paid by the taxpayer, then people have a right to have their say
Perhaps, but people find it very difficult to be objective in these matters. Its a classic populist issue. So I suppose you could say people have a right to have their say, but should expect to be ignored, because their say is predictable and hypocritical...
Quote from: Owenmoresider on December 13, 2018, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 08:32:57 AM
So what? I'm sure everyone here is trying to get paid as well as possible. And the usual solution applies - if you think they're overpaid, apply for their job...
If they want to pay them such big wages that's one thing, but the fact that the quality of programming is in constant decline (look forward to another Christmas season of repeats they'll be putting on) and they have lost so much of the sports rights they enjoyed in the past suggests that the money (which is substantially provided by us taxpayers lest we forget) could be put to better use.
Is the quality of programming in constant decline, or is that just a statement which, coupled with nostalgia, sounds true?
These people are overpaid not because of their ability but because the way we consume entertainment is changing. In our house we have one TV. Children watch it yes but it's on demand Amazon and Netflix. We also have laptop, Ipad and phones. Sure the News and political debate, talkshows need an anchor, but there'll be no need to pay them so much. I listen to podcasts and watch loads of stuff on youtube. I'd say all I really watch is the News on TV and the odd TV show that's recommended.
Technology has disrupted the mainstream media. These guys are Xtra Vision Video in a Netflix world.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on December 12, 2018, 04:22:34 PM
Does George Hamilton have to turn up at work every day, even though he could go weeks without a commentary gig?
He's on Lyric FM as well
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 11:34:38 AM
Quote from: Franko on December 13, 2018, 10:51:45 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 10:29:08 AM
I hardly recognise any of them, and I've very little time for those I do (altho 'danger here' george is associated with many great memories).
I just resent the ever more common hypocritical populist outcry over other peoples wealth.
A poor haranguer to boot.
You do understand the difference between people's wealth and people's salaries? (Which we pay, incidentally). Nobody mentioned these people's wealth.
What's your view on pharma companies overcharging state health agencies for drugs? I take it you are happy with that? After all, to follow your own logic, they are only people who are 'trying to get paid as well as possible'. ::)
You understand that my statement was generalising? And its not a massive leap to correlate high salaries and wealth, is it?
Re the situation you describe, define over-charging. Are the drugs available elsewhere cheaper? If they are, that would be a procurement failing.
Are the drugs not available elsewhere? Then the pharma company can and will charge a premium to cover the development of the drug. To what level however, can and should be regulated, if not, that's a regulation failing.
But I'm sure if you were a pharma boss you'd take the living wage and give the drugs out freely ::)
And hey presto, with a little leading, you finally got there. You couldn't have made it any easier if you tried. You even set out examples.
So, to use your own words and examples, this type of behaviour is caused by flaws in the
regulation or
procurement processes which govern RTE.
Will we go back to my original point, offer them 100k each a year, and see what happens?
The prosecution rests.
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 11:45:30 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on December 13, 2018, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 08:32:57 AM
So what? I'm sure everyone here is trying to get paid as well as possible. And the usual solution applies - if you think they're overpaid, apply for their job...
If they want to pay them such big wages that's one thing, but the fact that the quality of programming is in constant decline (look forward to another Christmas season of repeats they'll be putting on) and they have lost so much of the sports rights they enjoyed in the past suggests that the money (which is substantially provided by us taxpayers lest we forget) could be put to better use.
Is the quality of programming in constant decline, or is that just a statement which, coupled with nostalgia, sounds true?
Well you could heed the evidence of your eyes and ears... if you wanted to. You could look at a company that is selling off assets to meet daily running costs. But be careful now, because apparently that can be considered populist and hypocritical by some. ::)
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/doh-level-of-repeats-being-aired-is-just-not-acceptable-says-rte-chief-30936892.html
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/viewers-can-kiss-goodbye-to-new-rte-shows-on-this-summer-of-repeats-3z80cvjn7
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-reviews/pat-stacey-rte-is-showing-20-repeats-today-why-are-we-paying-160-a-year-for-this-31428735.html
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/repeats-but-not-much-recovery-in-sight-for-rt%C3%A9-1.3159411
http://animationireland.com/travails-on-permanent-repeat-at-rte-ad-competition-licence-fee-evasion-and-ascent-of-netflix-complicate-life-at-montrose/
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on December 12, 2018, 03:59:08 PM
This just released...
Ryan Tubridy - €495,000
Ray D'Arcy - €450,000
Joe Duffy - €398,000
Sean O'Rourke - €308,964
Marian Finucane - €300,167
Miriam O'Callaghan - €299,000
Claire Byrne - €216,000
Bryan Dobson - €198,600
George Hamilton - €186,195
Mary Wilson - €185,679
I am all for talent getting rewarded but can I ask who is going to try to poach anyone there? Marian coughs her way through two chats a week.
Even more amazed that George Hamilton, who I like, is on that. What does he actually do??
There needs to be a clear-out and a new generation on 50% less brought in.
George does 2 shows weekly on Lyric fm, that's surely worth a few euros of his 186,000.
If George is a regular employee he'd have a take home salary of about Eur100,000.
which isn't too outrageous, but he should be deducted Eur 1,000 everytime he says "oh ... danger here" for the superstitious dread that befalls the tens of thousands of viewers.
Quote from: Franko on December 13, 2018, 01:07:29 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 11:34:38 AM
Quote from: Franko on December 13, 2018, 10:51:45 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 10:29:08 AM
I hardly recognise any of them, and I've very little time for those I do (altho 'danger here' george is associated with many great memories).
I just resent the ever more common hypocritical populist outcry over other peoples wealth.
A poor haranguer to boot.
You do understand the difference between people's wealth and people's salaries? (Which we pay, incidentally). Nobody mentioned these people's wealth.
What's your view on pharma companies overcharging state health agencies for drugs? I take it you are happy with that? After all, to follow your own logic, they are only people who are 'trying to get paid as well as possible'. ::)
You understand that my statement was generalising? And its not a massive leap to correlate high salaries and wealth, is it?
Re the situation you describe, define over-charging. Are the drugs available elsewhere cheaper? If they are, that would be a procurement failing.
Are the drugs not available elsewhere? Then the pharma company can and will charge a premium to cover the development of the drug. To what level however, can and should be regulated, if not, that's a regulation failing.
But I'm sure if you were a pharma boss you'd take the living wage and give the drugs out freely ::)
And hey presto, with a little leading, you finally got there. You couldn't have made it any easier if you tried. You even set out examples.
So, to use your own words and examples, this type of behaviour is caused by flaws in the regulation or procurement processes which govern RTE.
Will we go back to my original point, offer them 100k each a year, and see what happens?
The prosecution rests.
You've never made an original point in your life. Alter your procurement then - offer them €100k and you'll see exactly what would happen, they'll all f**k off elsewhere for much more, and we'd be left with idiots like you and serious falls in advertising revenue.
Quote from: Franko on December 13, 2018, 01:14:14 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 11:45:30 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on December 13, 2018, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 08:32:57 AM
So what? I'm sure everyone here is trying to get paid as well as possible. And the usual solution applies - if you think they're overpaid, apply for their job...
If they want to pay them such big wages that's one thing, but the fact that the quality of programming is in constant decline (look forward to another Christmas season of repeats they'll be putting on) and they have lost so much of the sports rights they enjoyed in the past suggests that the money (which is substantially provided by us taxpayers lest we forget) could be put to better use.
Is the quality of programming in constant decline, or is that just a statement which, coupled with nostalgia, sounds true?
Well you could heed the evidence of your eyes and ears... if you wanted to. You could look at a company that is selling off assets to meet daily running costs. But be careful now, because apparently that can be considered populist and hypocritical by some. ::)
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/doh-level-of-repeats-being-aired-is-just-not-acceptable-says-rte-chief-30936892.html
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/viewers-can-kiss-goodbye-to-new-rte-shows-on-this-summer-of-repeats-3z80cvjn7
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-reviews/pat-stacey-rte-is-showing-20-repeats-today-why-are-we-paying-160-a-year-for-this-31428735.html
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/repeats-but-not-much-recovery-in-sight-for-rt%C3%A9-1.3159411
http://animationireland.com/travails-on-permanent-repeat-at-rte-ad-competition-licence-fee-evasion-and-ascent-of-netflix-complicate-life-at-montrose/
Oh lord.
Let me slow it down - increased repeats (not just an issue RTE are getting slated for btw [ https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/backlash-bbc-boss-defends-decision-13702396 ] is a QUANTITY issue. It was the QUALITY which was being discussed. I don't remember RTE having too many shows of the quality of say Love/Hate 20 years ago.
Where would they f**k off to? Who's going to pay them what they're on at RTE?
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: Franko on December 13, 2018, 01:07:29 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 11:34:38 AM
Quote from: Franko on December 13, 2018, 10:51:45 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 10:29:08 AM
I hardly recognise any of them, and I've very little time for those I do (altho 'danger here' george is associated with many great memories).
I just resent the ever more common hypocritical populist outcry over other peoples wealth.
A poor haranguer to boot.
You do understand the difference between people's wealth and people's salaries? (Which we pay, incidentally). Nobody mentioned these people's wealth.
What's your view on pharma companies overcharging state health agencies for drugs? I take it you are happy with that? After all, to follow your own logic, they are only people who are 'trying to get paid as well as possible'. ::)
You understand that my statement was generalising? And its not a massive leap to correlate high salaries and wealth, is it?
Re the situation you describe, define over-charging. Are the drugs available elsewhere cheaper? If they are, that would be a procurement failing.
Are the drugs not available elsewhere? Then the pharma company can and will charge a premium to cover the development of the drug. To what level however, can and should be regulated, if not, that's a regulation failing.
But I'm sure if you were a pharma boss you'd take the living wage and give the drugs out freely ::)
And hey presto, with a little leading, you finally got there. You couldn't have made it any easier if you tried. You even set out examples.
So, to use your own words and examples, this type of behaviour is caused by flaws in the regulation or procurement processes which govern RTE.
Will we go back to my original point, offer them 100k each a year, and see what happens?
The prosecution rests.
You've never made an original point in your life. Alter your procurement then - offer them €100k and you'll see exactly what would happen, they'll all f**k off elsewhere for much more, and we'd be left with idiots like you and serious falls in advertising revenue.
Christ you're really letting this get to you. I think you're maybe a bit closer to this than you're admitting.
As for the bit in bold. You are having a laugh. "Serious falls in advertising revenue" due to the loss of Tubridy or D'Arcy. It's even funnier when you actually write it down. ;D ;D
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 02:10:21 PM
Quote from: Franko on December 13, 2018, 01:14:14 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 11:45:30 AM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on December 13, 2018, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on December 13, 2018, 08:32:57 AM
So what? I'm sure everyone here is trying to get paid as well as possible. And the usual solution applies - if you think they're overpaid, apply for their job...
If they want to pay them such big wages that's one thing, but the fact that the quality of programming is in constant decline (look forward to another Christmas season of repeats they'll be putting on) and they have lost so much of the sports rights they enjoyed in the past suggests that the money (which is substantially provided by us taxpayers lest we forget) could be put to better use.
Is the quality of programming in constant decline, or is that just a statement which, coupled with nostalgia, sounds true?
Well you could heed the evidence of your eyes and ears... if you wanted to. You could look at a company that is selling off assets to meet daily running costs. But be careful now, because apparently that can be considered populist and hypocritical by some. ::)
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/doh-level-of-repeats-being-aired-is-just-not-acceptable-says-rte-chief-30936892.html
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/viewers-can-kiss-goodbye-to-new-rte-shows-on-this-summer-of-repeats-3z80cvjn7
https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-reviews/pat-stacey-rte-is-showing-20-repeats-today-why-are-we-paying-160-a-year-for-this-31428735.html
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/media-and-marketing/repeats-but-not-much-recovery-in-sight-for-rt%C3%A9-1.3159411
http://animationireland.com/travails-on-permanent-repeat-at-rte-ad-competition-licence-fee-evasion-and-ascent-of-netflix-complicate-life-at-montrose/
Oh lord.
Let me slow it down - increased repeats (not just an issue RTE are getting slated for btw [ https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/backlash-bbc-boss-defends-decision-13702396 ] is a QUANTITY issue. It was the QUALITY which was being discussed. I don't remember RTE having too many shows of the quality of say Love/Hate 20 years ago.
A TV station running repeats because they do not have the ability or funding to run original programming is a QUANTITY issue? Deary me.
Read what you type man.
Rete presenters wages are a fraction of what they were 10 years ago and the level of complaint has gone up .
just shows you how right Gerry Ryan was to resist it ,
if some one presents a show and it makes a profit I have no problem them getting their rewards.
and no you don't pay their wages any more then you pay the wages of a guard . thought next time your pulled over tell him you do.
see how that goes down
Quote from: rosnarun on December 13, 2018, 04:14:14 PM
Rete presenters wages are a fraction of what they were 10 years ago and the level of complaint has gone up .
just shows you how right Gerry Ryan was to resist it ,
if some one presents a show and it makes a profit I have no problem them getting their rewards.
and no you don't pay their wages any more then you pay the wages of a guard . thought next time your pulled over tell him you do.
see how that goes down
1. Could you tell me which 'shows' in RTE 'make a profit'?
2. If the licence payer doesn't pay (some/most of) these salaries, then who does? Same goes for a Guard.
3. Is the presenter solely responsible for the success of a 'show'?