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Poll
Question: Is Gregory Campbell a bollocks?
Option 1: Yes votes: 13
Option 2: No, he's a cnut votes: 57
Title: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Harold Disgracey on November 27, 2014, 02:13:34 PM
http://belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/sinn-feins-michelle-gildernew-describes-dups-gregory-campbell-as-a-bocks-at-meeting-30779034.html
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: screenexile on November 27, 2014, 02:18:37 PM
I'd have him more of a 'C' swear word!
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2014, 03:31:30 PM
I only have seen him a few times on TV but he doesn't come across as very smart and he does seem to personify the Protestant brain drain, in that a person like him can actually have a career in politics. 
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: gallsman on November 27, 2014, 03:45:59 PM
Unequivocally, yes. That and a whole lot more.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Orior on November 27, 2014, 04:21:22 PM
I heard on the radio this morning that Gildernew had called Pope Gregory the B word, but that it wasnt the same B word as used by Gerry Adams.

Honestly, I racked my brains to think what the other B word was, but couldn't think of it.

Am I a saint or what?
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Eamonnca1 on November 27, 2014, 09:06:28 PM
Bar steward?
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Main Street on November 27, 2014, 10:56:51 PM
From the Irish Times.
"The point is to actually break these bastards -...."

Later Adams issued a "mea culpa" tweet, saying he was referring to "bigots, racists and homophobes" and not to unionists specifically. He also apologised for his "bastards" remark. But who were these "bigots, racists and homophobes"? As far as unionists such as the DUP Minister Arlene Foster and the Ulster Unionist leader Mike Nesbitt were concerned Adams' remarks were directed against the unionist people in general.



I have to say Nesbitt got it spot on,  once you take out the bigots, racists and homophobes, who's actually left standing in the Unionist party?
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Applesisapples on May 09, 2016, 10:40:35 AM
So Gregory's at it again, Raymond McCartney is a failed hunger striker, and he has the neck to say he didn't believe it would be offensive. DUP need to cut this nonsense out, our perhaps it reflects what they all think?
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: seafoid on May 09, 2016, 10:49:13 AM
Gregory Campbell is not good enough intellectually to be a politician. He is sub FF councillor standard
He is the embodiment of the Unionist brain drain and the crap level left behind
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: johnneycool on May 09, 2016, 10:51:34 AM
Quote from: seafoid on May 09, 2016, 10:49:13 AM
Gregory Campbell is not good enough intellectually to be a politician. He is sub FF councillor standard
He is the embodiment of the Unionist brain drain and the crap level left behind

Still gets the votes though!

He knows how to play his electorate just like D Trump.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Rossfan on May 09, 2016, 10:55:20 AM
If his electorate consists mainly of 17th century archbigots......
Looks like a lot of them still around so.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on May 09, 2016, 11:03:23 AM
Politicians in the north are still bitter as fcuk and just when you think there almost past it wee snide remarks keep popping up.  I don't know how anyone votes for DUP or SF anymore, back in the day they were representing your backgrounds best interests sure, but now they like making fools of themselves with their outdated ethos. 

At least these buckos want change  ;)
http://armaghi.com/cista-the-regions-first-pro-drug-reform-political-party/ 
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2016, 11:17:38 AM
Gregory is still in the mindset of let's mock them fenians. Then when the dirty fenians kick up about it - ah sure do you have no sense of humour.

A bigot and a tr**p. Not a nice man at all.

The fact that a majority still vote for these people is mind boggling. It really is. Makes you question what kind of place we live in.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: general_lee on May 09, 2016, 11:20:52 AM
Why would anyone be surprised when a Loyalist like Gregory Campbell does or says something stupid ???
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: general_lee on May 09, 2016, 11:22:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2016, 11:17:38 AM
The fact that a majority still vote for these people is mind boggling. It really is. Makes you question what kind of place we live in.
I was just thinking that. What hope has this place ever got when so many people don't vote and of the ones that do most vote for a party of right wing extremists
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Applesisapples on May 09, 2016, 11:23:47 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 09, 2016, 11:20:52 AM
Why would anyone be surprised when a Loyalist like Gregory Campbell does or says something stupid ???
The point is that a party which wants to be taken seriously and as peacemakers would stand by such a dinosaur.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: ziggysego on May 09, 2016, 11:24:19 AM
He says what he likes about anyone on social media, but as soon as anyone says anything about him, he drags them through the courts.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: GJL on May 09, 2016, 11:24:45 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2016, 11:17:38 AM
Gregory is still in the mindset of let's mock them fenians. Then when the dirty fenians kick up about it - ah sure do you have no sense of humour.

A bigot and a tr**p. Not a nice man at all.

The fact that a majority still vote for these people is mind boggling. It really is. Makes you question what kind of place we live in.

I would say he is even bitter within his own party where he has been a bit of a failure. They obviously see him as a bit of a loose cannon. With big Ian gone and also Robinson it just leaves Dodds and Campbell of the old guard.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: armaghniac on May 09, 2016, 11:30:59 AM
The problem with the poll in this thread is that it does not allow multiple selection.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: general_lee on May 09, 2016, 11:40:29 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on May 09, 2016, 11:23:47 AM
Quote from: general_lee on May 09, 2016, 11:20:52 AM
Why would anyone be surprised when a Loyalist like Gregory Campbell does or says something stupid ???
The point is that a party which wants to be taken seriously and as peacemakers would stand by such a dinosaur.
Since when have the DUP ever wanted to be seen as peacemakers? These are people who want trident on Irish showers, wanted to bomb dundalk and vote  in favour of wars in the middle east. They're f**king lunatics and the fact people in their droves vote for them is depressing.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Orior on May 09, 2016, 11:46:35 AM
Is Pope Gregory's comment the same as me making a joke about british soldiers being killed in WW2, or ISIS soldiers blowing themselves up, or mocking poppies?
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: seafoid on May 09, 2016, 11:49:43 AM
an unsettled people by Susan McKay is a good read. The Unionist population is lost

http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/othelem/people/accounts/mckay00.htm
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 11:50:01 AM
Oh dear.Gregory seems to have perfected the art of winding opponents up,and no doubt delighting his own supporters simultaneously.As John O'Dowd succinctly put it "He's better off at Westminster out of the road!"😂😂
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: ziggysego on May 09, 2016, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 11:50:01 AM
Oh dear.Gregory seems to have perfected the art of winding opponents up,and no doubt delighting his own supporters simultaneously.As John O'Dowd succinctly put it "He's better off at Westminster out of the road!"😂😂

I'd not heard that  ;D
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on May 09, 2016, 12:00:38 PM
My thinking is that people still think DUP is the protestant party and SF is the catholic party, I doubt any of them read their manifestos or know what they are signing up to when they vote, hence why people like him keep getting in. 
If people looked into who they vote for, their background or what they want to achieve when they are in maybe they would think twice. 
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 09, 2016, 12:04:19 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 09, 2016, 12:00:38 PM
My thinking is that people still think DUP is the protestant party and SF is the catholic party, I doubt any of them read their manifestos or know what they are signing up to when they vote, hence why people like him keep getting in. 
If people looked into who they vote for, their background or what they want to achieve when they are in maybe they would think twice.
I think this is true for a lot of voters
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Longshanks on May 09, 2016, 12:18:54 PM
For the first time every I think my mum destroyed her vote, she is in 60s and never missed a vote and doesnt believe in abortion so wouldn't vote for any party in support of it, she can't stand the DUP and their unbridled hatred of catholics (espically paisley days)

She just didnt see any other option which I think is a sad time indeed..
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on May 09, 2016, 12:23:53 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 09, 2016, 12:00:38 PM
My thinking is that people still think DUP is the protestant party and SF is the catholic party, I doubt any of them read their manifestos or know what they are signing up to when they vote, hence why people like him keep getting in. 
If people looked into who they vote for, their background or what they want to achieve when they are in maybe they would think twice.

Nail on head especially in older voters. I doubt many even know the meaning of the word manifesto never mind actually reading one. When push comes to shove at election time it's a simple Orange v Green and to f**k with everything else.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 12:31:38 PM
NI politics is a paradox.Over the last 10 years I have been drawn into situations through work where I have been dealing with politicians of all hues and was genuinely surprised to see how well they worked together for all,away from the cameras.Two prominent unionists attended my mother's funeral and one of them she had no time for though they never met.I was amused at the irony! The UUP and DUP do not hate catholics,but like SF they have their own constituency pander to.Even the bold Gregory turned up to sympathise when a Derry SDLP member's house was attacked a few years ago.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 09, 2016, 01:25:22 PM
Pure attention seeking from Campbell. Better off ignoring him as creating any sort of hue and cry isn't going to result in anything.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Orior on May 09, 2016, 01:33:41 PM
I took my ballot paper out to lunch, we went for a stroll on the beach, dipped our feet in the water and made sand castles. We went to the cinema, then I took it for a candlelit dinner. Yes, I spoiled by vote.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 01:55:26 PM
Er did a Wicklow based FF Councillor not recently tweet his congratulations for Maggie Thatcher's handling of "Provo thugs" his words,during the Hunger Strike? What's the difference bewteen him and Gregory?
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: foxcommander on May 09, 2016, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 01:55:26 PM
Er did a Wicklow based FF Councillor not recently tweet his congratulations for Maggie Thatcher's handling of "Provo thugs" his words,during the Hunger Strike? What's the difference bewteen him and Gregory?

No different to the Fine Gael's Regina Doherty making comments about loyalist victims bringing it upon themselves during the election.
And they've just rewarded her with the chief whip post in government. Says it all really.

The Fianna Fail guy from wicklow Stephen Kearon is just a fat lad who wants attention. He's got an affiliation with the british army, hence the comments.
He got caught overcharging thousands of euro in government money for a website he created. A real brass neck.

Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: ardtole on May 09, 2016, 03:09:41 PM
Did Regina Doherty not say nationalist victims brought it on themselves. Worse still, no apology or even a slap on wrists by the fine gael party, the fact she is now party whip really highlights fine gael attitude to the north.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: screenexile on May 09, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: ardtole on May 09, 2016, 03:09:41 PM
Did Regina Doherty not say nationalist victims brought it on themselves. Worse still, no apology or even a slap on wrists by the fine gael party, the fact she is now party whip really highlights fine gael attitude to the north.

I listened to it at the time... Gerry Adams was talking about he personally and his family had suffered throughout the troubles and she dismissed him saying he brought it on himself!! It was a hatchet job and I'd imagine she was sent out to do it and this is her payment in kind!
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: foxcommander on May 09, 2016, 03:35:28 PM
Quote from: ardtole on May 09, 2016, 03:09:41 PM
Did Regina Doherty not say nationalist victims brought it on themselves. Worse still, no apology or even a slap on wrists by the fine gael party, the fact she is now party whip really highlights fine gael attitude to the north.

Apologies, I should have been clearer - victims of loyalist murders.

She's a horrible $#$@#
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: ardchieftain on May 09, 2016, 03:50:24 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 09, 2016, 11:03:23 AM
Politicians in the north are still bitter as fcuk and just when you think there almost past it wee snide remarks keep popping up.  I don't know how anyone votes for DUP or SF anymore, back in the day they were representing your backgrounds best interests sure, but now they like making fools of themselves with their outdated ethos. 

At least these buckos want change  ;)
http://armaghi.com/cista-the-regions-first-pro-drug-reform-political-party/

I know the lad who stood for Cista in Newry and Armagh, he's a former Mullabrack GAC player.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: AQMP on May 09, 2016, 03:51:18 PM
Quote from: screenexile on May 09, 2016, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: ardtole on May 09, 2016, 03:09:41 PM
Did Regina Doherty not say nationalist victims brought it on themselves. Worse still, no apology or even a slap on wrists by the fine gael party, the fact she is now party whip really highlights fine gael attitude to the north.

I listened to it at the time... Gerry Adams was talking about he personally and his family had suffered throughout the troubles and she dismissed him saying he brought it on himself!! It was a hatchet job and I'd imagine she was sent out to do it and this is her payment in kind!

I heard it at the time too...Adams sort of had her on the back foot and I took it she was saying that if people hadn't been involved in SF they wouldn't have been murdered by loyalists or the state.  Whatever she meant, it's dangerous logic...but she got away with it.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 04:11:50 PM
Gregory does it for electoral purposes the FF and FG do it out of vindictiveness.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Orior on May 09, 2016, 04:21:50 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on May 09, 2016, 03:35:28 PM
Quote from: ardtole on May 09, 2016, 03:09:41 PM
Did Regina Doherty not say nationalist victims brought it on themselves. Worse still, no apology or even a slap on wrists by the fine gael party, the fact she is now party whip really highlights fine gael attitude to the north.

Apologies, I should have been clearer - victims of loyalist murders.

She's a horrible $#$@#

+1. Why is she not hounded about this? That is the same as blaming women for being raped.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2016, 04:37:04 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 04:11:50 PM
Gregory does it for electoral purposes the FF and FG do it out of vindictiveness.

Did he not say it post election? I would say it pales in comparison to what Gregory really thinks. No matter how much vindictiveness or bitterness is in FF or FG it won't match that of the DUP.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: foxcommander on May 09, 2016, 04:55:40 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 09, 2016, 04:37:04 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 04:11:50 PM
Gregory does it for electoral purposes the FF and FG do it out of vindictiveness.

Did he not say it post election? I would say it pales in comparison to what Gregory really thinks. No matter how much vindictiveness or bitterness is in FF or FG it won't match that of the DUP.

In defence of Gregory (can't believe I'm typing that) at least he has some reason for his hatred.
Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have absolutely none.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: bennydorano on May 09, 2016, 05:43:30 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on May 09, 2016, 03:50:24 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 09, 2016, 11:03:23 AM
Politicians in the north are still bitter as fcuk and just when you think there almost past it wee snide remarks keep popping up.  I don't know how anyone votes for DUP or SF anymore, back in the day they were representing your backgrounds best interests sure, but now they like making fools of themselves with their outdated ethos. 

At least these buckos want change  ;)
http://armaghi.com/cista-the-regions-first-pro-drug-reform-political-party/

I know the lad who stood for Cista in Newry and Armagh, he's a former Mullabrack GAC player.
Emmet did very well. Peelers will be active in the constituency as it's obviously the one with most stoners. He got my #1.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: ardchieftain on May 09, 2016, 07:09:15 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 09, 2016, 05:43:30 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on May 09, 2016, 03:50:24 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on May 09, 2016, 11:03:23 AM
Politicians in the north are still bitter as fcuk and just when you think there almost past it wee snide remarks keep popping up.  I don't know how anyone votes for DUP or SF anymore, back in the day they were representing your backgrounds best interests sure, but now they like making fools of themselves with their outdated ethos. 

At least these buckos want change  ;)
http://armaghi.com/cista-the-regions-first-pro-drug-reform-political-party/

I know the lad who stood for Cista in Newry and Armagh, he's a former Mullabrack GAC player.
Emmet did very well. Peelers will be active in the constituency as it's obviously the one with most stoners. He got my #1.

He got my number 1 too. Polled 1330 which is exceptional for a brand new party.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: armaghniac on May 09, 2016, 07:30:02 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 12:31:38 PM
The UUP and DUP do not hate catholics,but like SF they have their own constituency pander to.Even the bold Gregory turned up to sympathise when a Derry SDLP member's house was attacked a few years ago.

Since most Protestants do not hate Catholics either, how many are they pandering too? Could they not just grow a pair? *

* I exclude your mate Jo-Anne from this requirement.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:09:15 PM
I think the real problem is that Sinn Fein are almost universally detested by ordinary unionists therefore no unionist leader can even hint at the merest concession to Sinn Fein.It would be electoral suicide if they did.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: armaghniac on May 09, 2016, 09:35:39 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:09:15 PM
I think the real problem is that Sinn Fein are almost universally detested by ordinary unionists therefore no unionist leader can even hint at the merest concession to Sinn Fein.It would be electoral suicide if they did.

SF are not Ireland, and it is a cop out to refuse a reasonable proposition because SF happen to also support it.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I agree,but unfortunately a high percentage of unionists see everything as a "concession" to Sinn Fein,regardless of how reasonable any proposition is.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Rossfan on May 09, 2016, 11:35:53 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I agree,but unfortunately a high percentage of unionists see everything as a "concession" to Sinn Fein,regardless of how reasonable any proposition is.
I suspect some/a lot of Unionists see the existence of Nationalists/ Catholics/Irish/Taigs/Fenians as a "concession"
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: armaghniac on May 09, 2016, 11:47:09 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I agree,but unfortunately a high percentage of unionists see everything as a "concession" to Sinn Fein,regardless of how reasonable any proposition is.

No surrender, not an inch.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/parachute-regiment-flags-on-lampposts-ahead-of-bloody-sunday-anniversary-blind-sectarianism-36523121.html

Great to see the boul Flegory's outright condemnation of paratrooper Flegs going up outside Derry ahead of this weekend's commemoration.

Oh wait.....
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: stew on January 24, 2018, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I agree,but unfortunately a high percentage of unionists see everything as a "concession" to Sinn Fein,regardless of how reasonable any proposition is.

Thata only because they are bitter bastards!
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: general_lee on January 24, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/parachute-regiment-flags-on-lampposts-ahead-of-bloody-sunday-anniversary-blind-sectarianism-36523121.html

Great to see the boul Flegory's outright condemnation of paratrooper Flegs going up outside Derry ahead of this weekend's commemoration.

Oh wait.....
I said on the Sinn Fein thread a few weeks ago during the McElduff saga that there would be f**k all said by Unionists regarding this, but Gregory has gone one step further and excused it. Yet these same boys were tripping over each other to see who could be the most offended over Kingsmills. They really have no shame
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: TabClear on January 24, 2018, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 24, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/parachute-regiment-flags-on-lampposts-ahead-of-bloody-sunday-anniversary-blind-sectarianism-36523121.html

Great to see the boul Flegory's outright condemnation of paratrooper Flegs going up outside Derry ahead of this weekend's commemoration.

Oh wait.....
I said on the Sinn Fein thread a few weeks ago during the McElduff saga that there would be f**k all said by Unionists regarding this, but Gregory has gone one step further and excused it. Yet these same boys were tripping over each other to see who could be the most offended over Kingsmills. They really have no shame

East Londonderry DUP MP Gregory Campbell denied the flags were sectarian, claiming they were a "reaction to bonfires, parades and other events in the Bogside".

Someone really needs to explain to the boul Gregory what sectarian means  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: TheOptimist on January 24, 2018, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: TabClear on January 24, 2018, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 24, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/parachute-regiment-flags-on-lampposts-ahead-of-bloody-sunday-anniversary-blind-sectarianism-36523121.html

Great to see the boul Flegory's outright condemnation of paratrooper Flegs going up outside Derry ahead of this weekend's commemoration.

Oh wait.....
I said on the Sinn Fein thread a few weeks ago during the McElduff saga that there would be f**k all said by Unionists regarding this, but Gregory has gone one step further and excused it. Yet these same boys were tripping over each other to see who could be the most offended over Kingsmills. They really have no shame

East Londonderry DUP MP Gregory Campbell denied the flags were sectarian, claiming they were a "reaction to bonfires, parades and other events in the Bogside".

Someone really needs to explain to the boul Gregory what sectarian means  ::) ::)

Surely this is on Par with McElduff, without any room for doubt in this case? Real double standards among unionism, but I think more and more are catching on to their outdated tactics.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Rossfan on January 24, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
When will the Unionist Community begin to address the hate and bigotry that causes some of  them to celebrate the mass murder of 14 civilians?
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: HiMucker on January 24, 2018, 04:47:44 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 24, 2018, 04:23:15 PM
When will the Unionist Community begin to address the hate and bigotry that causes some of  them to celebrate the mass murder of 14 civilians?
It would help if media outlets and politicians North and South responded the same way as they have done on "other issues".
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Eamonnca1 on January 24, 2018, 06:07:56 PM
Campbell is a perfect example of why we'll just have to write off the current generation of unionist politicians and bide our time until more reasonable people come to the fore. Maybe as memories of the Troubles recede they'll lose some of their bitterness.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Longshanks on January 24, 2018, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 24, 2018, 06:07:56 PM
Campbell is a perfect example of why we'll just have to write off the current generation of unionist politicians and bide our time until more reasonable people come to the fore. Maybe as memories of the Troubles recede they'll lose some of their bitterness.

you would hope that but Gavin Robinson is 33 the same age is me and is bitter as your boot and idolises the older crop, its embarrassing and depressing
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: michaelg on January 24, 2018, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2016, 11:35:53 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I agree,but unfortunately a high percentage of unionists see everything as a "concession" to Sinn Fein,regardless of how reasonable any proposition is.
I suspect some/a lot of Unionists see the existence of Nationalists/ Catholics/Irish/Taigs/Fenians as a "concession"
Says the man from Roscommon.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: red hander on January 24, 2018, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)

The drink can do that to you
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: JoG2 on January 24, 2018, 09:37:43 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 24, 2018, 06:07:56 PM
Campbell is a perfect example of why we'll just have to write off the current generation of unionist politicians and bide our time until more reasonable people come to the fore. Maybe as memories of the Troubles recede they'll lose some of their bitterness.

You'd hope so, but the next career politician will be along to take Campbell place. He's got a catholic married into the family, half his soccer team are gaa men who he ferries around the north-west on a Sat, he helps out many a nationalist on the quiet.. The hooer says what he needs to to keep his seat. Himself and his ilk are not leaders of their people,  quite the opposite in fact
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 09:38:59 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 24, 2018, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)

The drink can do that to you

It must have been some amount of drink!
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: red hander on January 24, 2018, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 09:38:59 PM
Quote from: red hander on January 24, 2018, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)

The drink can do that to you

It must have been some amount of drink!

That, and a f****** tough paper round.  ;D Supposed to be a complete piss artist (allegedly)
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: 6th sam on January 24, 2018, 10:35:02 PM
This fleg behaviour and it's apologists are so farcical, it's probably best ignored.
Gregory Campbell, appears articulate and therefore moderately intelligent, anecdotally there are reasonable aspects of his personality, however he has a secure mandate on the basis of his public persona of unreasonableness. Therefore he knows that coming out with the same vitriolic nonsense will be enough to keep the ££££s coming in  for a lock more years! A sad indictment on him, his party and those that continue to vote for him.
Barry McIlduff on the other hand, makes an obviously unintentional mistake (incredibly even some republicans still seem think he meant to cause hurt, despite all evidence to the contrary) and the media and politicians are up in arms, manipulating this human error , causing it to dominate the news for weeks, with the resulting publicity pouring further salt in the wounds of Kingsmills victims.
However the media, and most of the public seem to have no problem with flegs deliberately erected to cause hurt to  victims and the fact that this is wilfully defended by an MP, whilst one of the most prominent unionist politicians and long time minister in the Assembly calls our Taoiseach a nutcase?????
Meanwhile, we are ungoverned and ungovernable, with further blows to health, education, jobs.
The unionist people are completely leaderless, with their politicians , like Nero, fiddling while their beloved "country" burns.
Oh for a statesmanlike figure to emerge from unionism and or nationalism to help us all move in to the real world.
Bizarre in the extreme!!
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Orior on January 24, 2018, 10:39:00 PM
I'm also waiting on Ruth Dudley Edwards tweeting something to say that these flags are perfectly okay, and it is only the shinnerbots who are the problem.

Regards
Orior (not a shinnerbot)
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Itchy on January 24, 2018, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on January 24, 2018, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: TabClear on January 24, 2018, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 24, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/parachute-regiment-flags-on-lampposts-ahead-of-bloody-sunday-anniversary-blind-sectarianism-36523121.html

Great to see the boul Flegory's outright condemnation of paratrooper Flegs going up outside Derry ahead of this weekend's commemoration.

Oh wait.....
I said on the Sinn Fein thread a few weeks ago during the McElduff saga that there would be f**k all said by Unionists regarding this, but Gregory has gone one step further and excused it. Yet these same boys were tripping over each other to see who could be the most offended over Kingsmills. They really have no shame

East Londonderry DUP MP Gregory Campbell denied the flags were sectarian, claiming they were a "reaction to bonfires, parades and other events in the Bogside".

Someone really needs to explain to the boul Gregory what sectarian means  ::) ::)

Surely this is on Par with McElduff, without any room for doubt in this case? Real double standards among unionism, but I think more and more are catching on to their outdated tactics.

Exactly. This is why Mcelduff had to go as it shows the total hypocrisy and lack of leadership in unionism. My hope is your normal middle ground unionist will see this and reject this politics. Unionism is at a crossroads, demographic is against them and the DUP is on the idiot side in brexit. Should they be doing deals with the nationalist parties or f**k acting with flags sgain.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: yellowcard on January 24, 2018, 11:13:22 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)

Had to check this out and it turns out that you are correct. That's unbelievable, I genuinely had him down as a man in his 50's.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: 6th sam on January 25, 2018, 12:04:48 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 24, 2018, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on January 24, 2018, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: TabClear on January 24, 2018, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 24, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/parachute-regiment-flags-on-lampposts-ahead-of-bloody-sunday-anniversary-blind-sectarianism-36523121.html

Great to see the boul Flegory's outright condemnation of paratrooper Flegs going up outside Derry ahead of this weekend's commemoration.

Oh wait.....
I said on the Sinn Fein thread a few weeks ago during the McElduff saga that there would be f**k all said by Unionists regarding this, but Gregory has gone one step further and excused it. Yet these same boys were tripping over each other to see who could be the most offended over Kingsmills. They really have no shame

East Londonderry DUP MP Gregory Campbell denied the flags were sectarian, claiming they were a "reaction to bonfires, parades and other events in the Bogside".

Someone really needs to explain to the boul Gregory what sectarian means  ::) ::)

Surely this is on Par with McElduff, without any room for doubt in this case? Real double standards among unionism, but I think more and more are catching on to their outdated tactics.

Exactly. This is why Mcelduff had to go as it shows the total hypocrisy and lack of leadership in unionism. My hope is your normal middle ground unionist will see this and reject this politics. Unionism is at a crossroads, demographic is against them and the DUP is on the idiot side in brexit. Should they be doing deals with the nationalist parties or f**k acting with flags sgain.

"normal middle ground unionists" are genuinely embarassed with this nonsense. They are our friends and work colleagues, and their politics doesn't define them. As long as their britishness is respected they will be happy to work in any new constitutional arrangement, including in an all-ireland context. Thats the key for nationalists/republicans-reassure enough unionists that their britishness will be respected, and isolate and challenge  reactionary anti-irish orangeism, which is holding us all back, unionist and nationalist. Sadly , we have managed to do neither, to date. We have not managed to embrace and align with moderate unionism, and have  failed to unify to consistently challenge orangeism/flegism which is solely based on domination and retaining the upper hand during their own lifetime, with no consideration for the position of their offspring.
When normal middle ground unionist Naomi Long bucked the trend by outvoting Peter Robinson, the fleggers cynically targetted her and her middle ground party. Interestingly Allianze vote held, but the fleg protesters and their apologists succeeded in cynicalling mobilising the protestant working class once again, for short term gains, but loss of empathy and respect for hardline unionism.
ironically moderate unionism would sit much easier within an equality/respect coalition, than a pan-unionist coalition.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: johnneycool on January 25, 2018, 08:49:23 AM
Quote from: 6th sam on January 25, 2018, 12:04:48 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 24, 2018, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on January 24, 2018, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: TabClear on January 24, 2018, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 24, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on January 24, 2018, 09:39:36 AM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/parachute-regiment-flags-on-lampposts-ahead-of-bloody-sunday-anniversary-blind-sectarianism-36523121.html

Great to see the boul Flegory's outright condemnation of paratrooper Flegs going up outside Derry ahead of this weekend's commemoration.

Oh wait.....
I said on the Sinn Fein thread a few weeks ago during the McElduff saga that there would be f**k all said by Unionists regarding this, but Gregory has gone one step further and excused it. Yet these same boys were tripping over each other to see who could be the most offended over Kingsmills. They really have no shame

East Londonderry DUP MP Gregory Campbell denied the flags were sectarian, claiming they were a "reaction to bonfires, parades and other events in the Bogside".

Someone really needs to explain to the boul Gregory what sectarian means  ::) ::)

Surely this is on Par with McElduff, without any room for doubt in this case? Real double standards among unionism, but I think more and more are catching on to their outdated tactics.

Exactly. This is why Mcelduff had to go as it shows the total hypocrisy and lack of leadership in unionism. My hope is your normal middle ground unionist will see this and reject this politics. Unionism is at a crossroads, demographic is against them and the DUP is on the idiot side in brexit. Should they be doing deals with the nationalist parties or f**k acting with flags sgain.

"normal middle ground unionists" are genuinely embarassed with this nonsense. They are our friends and work colleagues, and their politics doesn't define them. As long as their britishness is respected they will be happy to work in any new constitutional arrangement, including in an all-ireland context. Thats the key for nationalists/republicans-reassure enough unionists that their britishness will be respected, and isolate and challenge  reactionary anti-irish orangeism, which is holding us all back, unionist and nationalist. Sadly , we have managed to do neither, to date. We have not managed to embrace and align with moderate unionism, and have  failed to unify to consistently challenge orangeism/flegism which is solely based on domination and retaining the upper hand during their own lifetime, with no consideration for the position of their offspring.
When normal middle ground unionist Naomi Long bucked the trend by outvoting Peter Robinson, the fleggers cynically targetted her and her middle ground party. Interestingly Allianze vote held, but the fleg protesters and their apologists succeeded in cynicalling mobilising the protestant working class once again, for short term gains, but loss of empathy and respect for hardline unionism.
ironically moderate unionism would sit much easier within an equality/respect coalition, than a pan-unionist coalition.

I can see where you're coming from and IMO there has been strides by certain Shinner leaders in this regard, Marty meeting the Queen on a few occasions, Shinner Lord Mayors attending Remembrance Day Cenotaph commemorations and so forth and once in a while a DUP'er will attend the odd GAA game and that's as far as its went. Even at council level Nationalist councils are more inclined to have power sharing agreements in place than their unionist counterparts.

The ferociousness of the DUP stance on the Irish language act has set this all back a good bit as they aren't counternancing any form of Irishness to be entertained let alone be promoted makes it hard for Shinners to go the next step in reassuring the middle ground Unionist that their Britishness is safe when ultimately it isn't.

There's also an onus on these normal middle ground unionists to grow a set of balls and lead rather than be led as the biggest threat to the union is the DUP with their Brexit stance and not Sinn Fein and they need to see that.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Rossfan on January 25, 2018, 10:51:40 AM
Quote from: michaelg on January 24, 2018, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2016, 11:35:53 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I agree,but unfortunately a high percentage of unionists see everything as a "concession" to Sinn Fein,regardless of how reasonable any proposition is.
I suspect some/a lot of Unionists see the existence of Nationalists/ Catholics/Irish/Taigs/Fenians as a "concession"
Says the man from Roscommon.
Interesting that you didn't address the point but played the man instead :-\
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on January 25, 2018, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)
carla lockhart in the same boat.  Sammy morrison from tuv as well
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: general_lee on January 25, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 25, 2018, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)
carla lockhart in the same boat.  Sammy morrison from tuv as well
Carla Lockhart doesn't look old she's just got a face for radio. The other boy is just fat
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: ONARAGGATIP on January 25, 2018, 02:13:45 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 25, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 25, 2018, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)
carla lockhart in the same boat.  Sammy morrison from tuv as well
Carla Lockhart doesn't look old she's just got a face for radio. The other boy is just fat

aye, wild thin too but she defo doesn't look in her 60s.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on January 25, 2018, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: michaelg on January 24, 2018, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2016, 11:35:53 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I agree,but unfortunately a high percentage of unionists see everything as a "concession" to Sinn Fein,regardless of how reasonable any proposition is.
I suspect some/a lot of Unionists see the existence of Nationalists/ Catholics/Irish/Taigs/Fenians as a "concession"
Says the man from Roscommon.

While I cannot confirm or deny the sheepstealer's view of some/a lot of unionists, I would be interested in your view, as a unionist, of Campbell's theory that this flags are merely a reaction to some other slight.

I ask because to an outsider it looks like Campbell is ignoring the obvious connection to an up coming anniversary.  Prima facie, playing to a tribal gallery, if you will.   It makes comparisons to McElduff less about "whataboutery" and more about rank hypocrisy.  It also suggests that the local MP is reluctant to state this obvious connection as it might involve acknowledging that Bloody Sunday was a wrong visited on "themmuns".    I then wonder if that is based on his own feelings or a fear of his own tribal gallery.

/Jim.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Applesisapples on January 25, 2018, 04:13:09 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on January 25, 2018, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: michaelg on January 24, 2018, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2016, 11:35:53 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I agree,but unfortunately a high percentage of unionists see everything as a "concession" to Sinn Fein,regardless of how reasonable any proposition is.
I suspect some/a lot of Unionists see the existence of Nationalists/ Catholics/Irish/Taigs/Fenians as a "concession"
Says the man from Roscommon.
The Unionist reaction to McElduff was all hypocrisy. Whilst the Kingsmill families have every right to be bitter they have been trotted out for years by some politicians for their own ends. Only Danny Kennedy has consistently championed their right to answers. Sadly like many victims on both sides time is running out for truth and it might be best to draw a line. But easy for me to say.
While I cannot confirm or deny the sheepstealer's view of some/a lot of unionists, I would be interested in your view, as a unionist, of Campbell's theory that this flags are merely a reaction to some other slight.

I ask because to an outsider it looks like Campbell is ignoring the obvious connection to an up coming anniversary.  Prima facie, playing to a tribal gallery, if you will.   It makes comparisons to McElduff less about "whataboutery" and more about rank hypocrisy.  It also suggests that the local MP is reluctant to state this obvious connection as it might involve acknowledging that Bloody Sunday was a wrong visited on "themmuns".    I then wonder if that is based on his own feelings or a fear of his own tribal gallery.

/Jim.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: michaelg on January 25, 2018, 06:30:52 PM
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on January 25, 2018, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: michaelg on January 24, 2018, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 09, 2016, 11:35:53 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 09, 2016, 09:54:15 PM
I agree,but unfortunately a high percentage of unionists see everything as a "concession" to Sinn Fein,regardless of how reasonable any proposition is.
I suspect some/a lot of Unionists see the existence of Nationalists/ Catholics/Irish/Taigs/Fenians as a "concession"
Says the man from Roscommon.

While I cannot confirm or deny the sheepstealer's view of some/a lot of unionists, I would be interested in your view, as a unionist, of Campbell's theory that this flags are merely a reaction to some other slight.

I ask because to an outsider it looks like Campbell is ignoring the obvious connection to an up coming anniversary.  Prima facie, playing to a tribal gallery, if you will.   It makes comparisons to McElduff less about "whataboutery" and more about rank hypocrisy.  It also suggests that the local MP is reluctant to state this obvious connection as it might involve acknowledging that Bloody Sunday was a wrong visited on "themmuns".    I then wonder if that is based on his own feelings or a fear of his own tribal gallery.

/Jim.
Gregory Campbell is a bellend of the highest order who clearly is consistently attempting to appeal to the lowest common denominator.  His refusal to condemn the flying of  a Paratrooper flag in the run-up to Bloody Sunday is inexcusable and hypocticial given the recent furore following the Barry McElduff incident.

My original comment was in response to someone, who in all likelihood, does not work with / personally know / work with / live beside many people from the unionist community.

I don't and never have voted for the DUP.  Whilst many do, it's too easy to conclude that all unionist DUP voters are the same.  I would imagine a significcant proportion vote for them due to the sectarian headcount nature of NI politics.  By the same token, I would also imagine that not all SF voters would be that comfortable with the physical force republicanism previously employed by Sinn Fein / IRA.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Ronnie on January 25, 2018, 08:39:41 PM
That's true.  Most SF supporters would probably agree that having a law based on a religion is difficult to justify e.g. the sale of alcohol on Good Friday.  Most DUP supporters would probably be of the same mind.  But the DUP leadership still impose their morality on the people of NI.  Unless there's a second referendum on Brexit in NI, the DUP will have achieved their 1998 objective of smashing the Good Friday Agreement.  In any event, hypocrisy has never been in short supply here.
Title: Re: Is Gregory Campbell a b swear word.
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on January 26, 2018, 10:39:03 AM
Quote from: general_lee on January 25, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on January 25, 2018, 12:35:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 24, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
Also stalford who is apparently 33 or 34 but looks about 60s. (Genuinely!)
carla lockhart in the same boat.  Sammy morrison from tuv as well
Carla Lockhart doesn't look old she's just got a face for radio. The other boy is just fat

should have clarified - I wasn't making the point that either looks old - I was alluding to the fact that they are early 30s yet are still as bigoted as Fleggory/Sammy Wilson etc