Stormont Assembly Elections 2017

[Avondhu star]

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/diarmaid-ferriter-a-history-of-partition-and-europe-s-role-1.3014508
In October 1922, a nationalist deputation from Northern Ireland arrived in Dublin to meet members of the provisional government of the new state. They got short shrift from Kevin O'Higgins, the minister for home affairs, who essentially told them they were on their own and that what northern nationalism needed was "a great deal of strenuous voluntary work – just the same sort of strenuous work that brought the national position to the stage it has reached". The washing of southern hands could hardly have been more apparent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3G1bwD0ao0

And then the Northern nationalists did nothing for 50 years.

[seafoid]

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/diarmaid-ferriter-a-history-of-partition-and-europe-s-role-1.3014508
In October 1922, a nationalist deputation from Northern Ireland arrived in Dublin to meet members of the provisional government of the new state. They got short shrift from Kevin O'Higgins, the minister for home affairs, who essentially told them they were on their own and that what northern nationalism needed was "a great deal of strenuous voluntary work – just the same sort of strenuous work that brought the national position to the stage it has reached". The washing of southern hands could hardly have been more apparent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3G1bwD0ao0

And then the Northern nationalists did nothing for 50 years.

The Palestinians also took 1 or 2 generations to.recover from their trauma. Down's 1960 all Ireland was the first sign that things were going to.change, I think.

[Owen Brannigan]

So Adams doesn't doubt Arlene's innocence........

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/no-reason-to-doubt-arlene-foster-is-innocent-in-rhi-scandal-says-gerry-adams-35541824.html

[Avondhu star]

So Adams doesn't doubt Arlene's innocence........

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/no-reason-to-doubt-arlene-foster-is-innocent-in-rhi-scandal-says-gerry-adams-35541824.html

Maybe its a case that May, Kenny and the Americans have told SF and DUP to grow up and sort their own shit out. Adams can size it up well and has plenty previous for changing policy and abandoning "principles"

[Owen Brannigan]

SF pull down the Assembly again by walking out of talks.  Not waiting for DUP to attend further talks tomorrow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39399501

Commentators had indicated that SF were painting themselves into a corner with their demands on such a range of fronts and either a walk out or back down would be required.  This was signalled by Adams when he earlier had said no extension of time for further talks would be accepted.

No budget for all of our services will mean redundancies in many areas for all of those already on protective notice, continuing chaos in the health service and education redundancies will be pushed ahead to meet the 30th April deadline to identify those who will lose their jobs.

[Milltown Row2]

I blame brexit!!!

[seafoid]

On Sunday Sinn Fein leader Michelle O'Neill said: "When the extent of the RHI scandal became apparent and the first minister refused to step aside, Martin McGuinness acted and made clear there could be no return to the status quo. The decision by Martin McGuinness to resign was endorsed in the election. The election result has transformed the political landscape. "Sinn Féin is still intent on honouring our mandate and agreements made. We want to see the institutions restored but when we said there will be no return to the status quo we meant it."

Read more at: http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/sinn-fein-rules-out-stormont-talks-deal-1-7885253

What are the Shinners looking for?

[GJL]

On Sunday Sinn Fein leader Michelle O'Neill said: "When the extent of the RHI scandal became apparent and the first minister refused to step aside, Martin McGuinness acted and made clear there could be no return to the status quo. The decision by Martin McGuinness to resign was endorsed in the election. The election result has transformed the political landscape. "Sinn Féin is still intent on honouring our mandate and agreements made. We want to see the institutions restored but when we said there will be no return to the status quo we meant it."

Read more at: http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/sinn-fein-rules-out-stormont-talks-deal-1-7885253

What are the Shinners looking for?

I'm not sure but I'd guess legacy cases have a fair bit to do with this.

[Owen Brannigan]

Warning to all householders

By now you would normally have received your rates demand for 2017-18 but it won't have arrived.

Your rates cannot be collected by your council because of the mess at Stormont.  If you pay by direct debit over 10 months then continue to set the same amount of money aside from next Saturday for when the demands eventually hit your doormat and you have to pay up all arrears that you weren't responsible for accruing.  Also put a little extra aside as most councils increased the rates and the N.I. will probably increase at least with inflation.

Unfortunately, too many innocent bystanders will be affected by political grandstanding. Hopefully, some solution may be reached by the civil servants.

This failure to collect will continue until government is restored and you may be asked to pay your bill in a single payment.

The fault lies with DUP & SF.

Contact your local councillors to complain about this situation using this website:

https://www.writetothem.com

[Minder]

They really don't give a shit about Joe Bloggs, it's just an endless game of one trying to outmanoeuvre the other, and to hell with actually governing

Both SF & DUP will be happy to go to another election to finish SDLP & UUP respectively

[Owen Brannigan]

They really don't give a shit about Joe Bloggs, it's just an endless game of one trying to outmanoeuvre the other, and to hell with actually governing

+1

[never kickt a ball]

On Sunday Sinn Fein leader Michelle O'Neill said: "When the extent of the RHI scandal became apparent and the first minister refused to step aside, Martin McGuinness acted and made clear there could be no return to the status quo. The decision by Martin McGuinness to resign was endorsed in the election. The election result has transformed the political landscape. "Sinn Féin is still intent on honouring our mandate and agreements made. We want to see the institutions restored but when we said there will be no return to the status quo we meant it."

Read more at: http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/sinn-fein-rules-out-stormont-talks-deal-1-7885253

What are the Shinners looking for?

Both parties released this statement tonight:

https://youtu.be/e3-5YC_oHjE

[Milltown Row2]

They really don't give a shit about Joe Bloggs, it's just an endless game of one trying to outmanoeuvre the other, and to hell with actually governing

Both SF & DUP will be happy to go to another election to finish SDLP & UUP respectively

Apparently not according to a few blinkered posters here, they think that they have done a great job though haven't given any evidence on this...

SF will lose out here I feel

[uimhr ocht]

The unionists would want another election because they didn't like the last result,could sinn fein have the power to stop another election?or would they have to participate again.Sinn fein  went to the electorate previously stating they wouldn't go back in government until foster stepped aside until inquiry finished,the mandate they received endorsed this so they couldn't compromise on this surely.

[Owen Brannigan]

The unionists would want another election because they didn't like the last result,could sinn fein have the power to stop another election?or would they have to participate again.Sinn fein  went to the electorate previously stating they wouldn't go back in government until foster stepped aside until inquiry finished,the mandate they received endorsed this so they couldn't compromise on this surely.

Not the reason they gave for their walkout.  Claiming it was legacy, iLA, Bill of Rights and Equal Marriage.  Equal marriage is the business of the whole Assembly and not just SF or DUP; Bills of Rights and Legacy is a matter to be resolved at UK government level and SF previously agreed that the ILA was the remit of the UK government.  So SF is hold everyone to ransom while it attempts to deal with the UK government and blames the DUP.  If SF had managed to achieve binding agreements on any of these issues it claims to have sorted in the past then the courts is the route to dealing with it.

They never even got to the stage of Foster being nominated as a reason to walkout.

SF failed to read the situation put on a plate for them.  You don't think Clinton came to the funeral on their invite? He was there because the Irish government provided a state funeral for them and turned up all the players they could manage bar Blair: presidents Clinton, McAleese & Higgins, Taoisigh Kenny & Aherne.  Adams has overplayed his hand and when the finance begins to crunch on the ordinary people he will hear about it.  The welfare easement on the UK reforms will not continue after 1st April, bedroom tax will apply, jobs will be lost in the NICVA sectors, education and health because no budget is available and civil servants will pay out minimum levels within a percentage of last years amounts. Local councils will be squeezed because their rates income is unknown and not collected.  The victims of historical abuse will be left to fade away and the report will not be acted on.

They did not listen to the voices across the country about victims and have failed to include all victims in their 'search for truth'.  Only a full process looking for truth of all victims of state, IRA, Loyalists will be enough for the majority of people.