UK General Election 2017

[playwiththewind1st]

Electoral fraud in Foyle?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/claims-of-foyle-vote-theft-mount-sdlp-to-meet-with-electoral-office-35819530.html

It hasn't gone away you know.

[yellowcard]

John Major speaking out about the deal with the DUP just on the verge of a deal being struck, is very unusual timing. The Tories are still split over this and could create more problems for them. The problem they have is that the alternative of a Corbyn led government is unthinkable.

[playwiththewind1st]

If May agrees to serve Ashers traybakes at all 10 Downing St. functions the deal will be closed this afternoon apparently.

[Owen Brannigan]

New PM and deputy arrive at No.10 to form a government:

[BennyCake]

What's the deal with gay marriage in the North? Can there be a referendum on it? The DUP are onto a loser with that, and will look like dinosaurs in britain because of it. So, could there get-out be a referendum? I mean, it's only a matter of time before it happens anyway.

[Owen Brannigan]

What's the deal with gay marriage in the North? Can there be a referendum on it? The DUP are onto a loser with that, and will look like dinosaurs in britain because of it. So, could there get-out be a referendum? I mean, it's only a matter of time before it happens anyway.

A simple way out would be to do a deal with May to bring in legislation for re-defining marriage and an ILA.  Then they have hands off but taking a UK view on matters.

[AhNowRef]

I no longer vote on tribal lines but for candidate (s) who I agree with and who have a track record.

My preference would be for an independent Northern state,if economically viable ultimately,devoid of  toxic,bizarre and irrational allegiances to the British or 26 county states,which has brought about nothing but misery and division.

There was, to all intents and purposes, an independent northern state from 1922 to 1969, with zero interference from London as loyalist apartheid was practised unfettered. That worked out really well, didn't it? Speak for yourself. I feel total kinship with my fellow Irish, whether they're from Armagh or Cork.

Agree, I love this country, whether Killarney or Derry.
I think if we actually had the wit to realise what we actually have on this island, and reject the antagonist partisan aggression of orangism and their fellow travellers, we'd have some country.
I'm a northern nationslist and have loads in common with northern unionists snd southern nationalists , what I can't stick is those from the 26 counties (usually Fine Gaelers tbf) who try to ingratiate and respect everyone , except northern nationalists . E.g. Charlie Flanagan who is supposed to be an independent co-guarantor of the GFA , not stating clearly that James Brokenshire, can now definitely not be viewed as independent, since he's trying to form a government with the DUP. This is absolutely disgraceful. We all know the question marks over Fisnna Fail but at least Bertie and Albert proved advocates of northern nationalists when they were most marginalised . Sadly Miceál Martin has not followed suit. Fine Gael and their various coalitions, ( with a few  supporters on this board ), have consistently failed as advocates for northern nationalists, rather seeing their role as sucking up to unionists and the Tories...sadly replicating their role in the Anglo Irish conflict from 1916. Any chance Charlie and Leo that you would have the guts to confront the Partissn behaviour of the Tories and their orange mates in unionism?
What other country in the world would tolerate the weekly widespread celebration of beating your Catholic neighbours in battle over  300  years ago and dress it up as culture. When is the lone voice of 6 county nationalists going to be bolstered by those in the 26 counties , calling this nonsense out for what it is!
Inevitably northern nationalists  are portrayed as the other side of the same coin, and equally unreasonable. Tit for tat , 50/50, six of one /half a dozen of the other etc. This narrative is nonsense. If a republican band tried to march in a unionist area, they would not only receive no support they would be openly ridiculed by their own community - thus it never happens. However sectarian marches, continued loyalist killings and apparent sectarian behaviour around the Irish language and public funding, is only ever challenged by northern nationalists, who are portrayed as equally unreasonable . Apart from the likes of Jeremy Corbyn,  UK politicians have rarely fought our corner and have promoted the 50/50 lie. Fianna Fail  to be fair , though not overly vocal, usually had our backs, but since Sinn Féin has strengthened in the Dáil, self preservation has dictated that all other Southern politicians have neglected northern nationalists, to concentrate on undermining Sinn Féin, thus perpetuating the pathological political impasse in the 6 counties.
Will Leo Varadkar buck the trend and stand up to the Tories and orangism, I'll not hold my breath!

Excellent post ....

As for Leo .. will he F**K 

[yellowcard]

I no longer vote on tribal lines but for candidate (s) who I agree with and who have a track record.

My preference would be for an independent Northern state,if economically viable ultimately,devoid of  toxic,bizarre and irrational allegiances to the British or 26 county states,which has brought about nothing but misery and division.

There was, to all intents and purposes, an independent northern state from 1922 to 1969, with zero interference from London as loyalist apartheid was practised unfettered. That worked out really well, didn't it? Speak for yourself. I feel total kinship with my fellow Irish, whether they're from Armagh or Cork.

Agree, I love this country, whether Killarney or Derry.
I think if we actually had the wit to realise what we actually have on this island, and reject the antagonist partisan aggression of orangism and their fellow travellers, we'd have some country.
I'm a northern nationslist and have loads in common with northern unionists snd southern nationalists , what I can't stick is those from the 26 counties (usually Fine Gaelers tbf) who try to ingratiate and respect everyone , except northern nationalists . E.g. Charlie Flanagan who is supposed to be an independent co-guarantor of the GFA , not stating clearly that James Brokenshire, can now definitely not be viewed as independent, since he's trying to form a government with the DUP. This is absolutely disgraceful. We all know the question marks over Fisnna Fail but at least Bertie and Albert proved advocates of northern nationalists when they were most marginalised . Sadly Miceál Martin has not followed suit. Fine Gael and their various coalitions, ( with a few  supporters on this board ), have consistently failed as advocates for northern nationalists, rather seeing their role as sucking up to unionists and the Tories...sadly replicating their role in the Anglo Irish conflict from 1916. Any chance Charlie and Leo that you would have the guts to confront the Partissn behaviour of the Tories and their orange mates in unionism?
What other country in the world would tolerate the weekly widespread celebration of beating your Catholic neighbours in battle over  300  years ago and dress it up as culture. When is the lone voice of 6 county nationalists going to be bolstered by those in the 26 counties , calling this nonsense out for what it is!
Inevitably northern nationalists  are portrayed as the other side of the same coin, and equally unreasonable. Tit for tat , 50/50, six of one /half a dozen of the other etc. This narrative is nonsense. If a republican band tried to march in a unionist area, they would not only receive no support they would be openly ridiculed by their own community - thus it never happens. However sectarian marches, continued loyalist killings and apparent sectarian behaviour around the Irish language and public funding, is only ever challenged by northern nationalists, who are portrayed as equally unreasonable . Apart from the likes of Jeremy Corbyn,  UK politicians have rarely fought our corner and have promoted the 50/50 lie. Fianna Fail  to be fair , though not overly vocal, usually had our backs, but since Sinn Féin has strengthened in the Dáil, self preservation has dictated that all other Southern politicians have neglected northern nationalists, to concentrate on undermining Sinn Féin, thus perpetuating the pathological political impasse in the 6 counties.
Will Leo Varadkar buck the trend and stand up to the Tories and orangism, I'll not hold my breath!

Excellent post ....

As for Leo .. will he F**K 

That was an excellent post alright. As for Leo, If he was English he would espouse British Tory policy so I would not expect any improvment there, in fact I think he'll be less of a nationalist than Enda was. Time will tell but he strikes me as the Dublin 4 'I'm alright jack' type.

[Hardy]

New PM and deputy arrive at No.10 to form a government:

Foster and Hallion.

[Avondhu star]

Electoral fraud in Foyle?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/claims-of-foyle-vote-theft-mount-sdlp-to-meet-with-electoral-office-35819530.html

Vote early. Vote often

[playwiththewind1st]

Acht na gaeilge anois.
Votail early, votail often. Votail proxy.

[armaghniac]

If Sinn Féin were any use, they would call on the DUP to agree a plan with the Tories to bring NI economy to 90% of the 26 county one and likewise bring dole, pensions etc to 90% of the 26 county level.

They will not this, partly because economics is as alien to them as Swaheli Nd partly because they do not want to admit that the Dublin government is doing anything right.

[seafoid]

Catholics in NI have no parliamentary representation. Very strange.

[seafoid]

Before the election Corbyn was far left, the Tories were going to win a 100 seat majority and Labour were going to be buried until 2030. If Carlsberg made political parties they wouldn't make the Conservatives . .

[Rossfan]

Catholics in NI have no parliamentary representation. Very strange.

They have.
The 7 SF people can still represent their Constituents very well without swearing oaths to a Sectarian Monarchy or sitting in a crowded Chamber going Hee haw with 650 other unruly schoolkids.