Leinster Championship 2020

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From the Bunker

Quote from: marty34 on November 24, 2020, 11:43:17 PM
The issue of Dublin and money comes up regularly.

My opinion is that this is a one off talented group of players who have come along at the right time.  Problem is now that they are at the top, all they need is one or two new players to stay there, at thst high level. 

Regards the money and funding re: the footballers, the question that I have is why are their hurlers, with the same "benefits" not wining Leinster with their B team and winning 5 in a row Liam Mc Carthys?

I think it's time people stop whinging about Dublin get this and that etc. and get their own county into a bit of shape. No excuses - put the work in at club level.

I'm not a Dub btw.

Where are u from?

marty34

Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2020, 11:46:12 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 24, 2020, 11:43:17 PM
The issue of Dublin and money comes up regularly.

My opinion is that this is a one off talented group of players who have come along at the right time.  Problem is now that they are at the top, all they need is one or two new players to stay there, at thst high level. 

Regards the money and funding re: the footballers, the question that I have is why are their hurlers, with the same "benefits" not wining Leinster with their B team and winning 5 in a row Liam Mc Carthys?

I think it's time people stop whinging about Dublin get this and that etc. and get their own county into a bit of shape. No excuses - put the work in at club level.

I'm not a Dub btw.

Where are u from?

As stated, not from Dublin.

From the Bunker

Quote from: marty34 on November 24, 2020, 11:49:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2020, 11:46:12 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 24, 2020, 11:43:17 PM
The issue of Dublin and money comes up regularly.

My opinion is that this is a one off talented group of players who have come along at the right time.  Problem is now that they are at the top, all they need is one or two new players to stay there, at thst high level. 

Regards the money and funding re: the footballers, the question that I have is why are their hurlers, with the same "benefits" not wining Leinster with their B team and winning 5 in a row Liam Mc Carthys?

I think it's time people stop whinging about Dublin get this and that etc. and get their own county into a bit of shape. No excuses - put the work in at club level.

I'm not a Dub btw.

Where are u from?

As stated, not from Dublin.

So, where are you from.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2020, 11:56:10 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 24, 2020, 11:49:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2020, 11:46:12 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 24, 2020, 11:43:17 PM
The issue of Dublin and money comes up regularly.

My opinion is that this is a one off talented group of players who have come along at the right time.  Problem is now that they are at the top, all they need is one or two new players to stay there, at thst high level. 

Regards the money and funding re: the footballers, the question that I have is why are their hurlers, with the same "benefits" not wining Leinster with their B team and winning 5 in a row Liam Mc Carthys?

I think it's time people stop whinging about Dublin get this and that etc. and get their own county into a bit of shape. No excuses - put the work in at club level.

I'm not a Dub btw.

Where are u from?

As stated, not from Dublin.

So, where are you from.

Bunker where does all that money go for one code county?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

sid waddell

Quote from: Angelo on November 24, 2020, 11:05:53 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on November 24, 2020, 10:54:15 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 24, 2020, 10:38:31 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on November 24, 2020, 10:35:32 PM
Quote from: Angelo on November 24, 2020, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2020, 09:43:17 PM
Any bigger names than mccaffery? Doctor

Teachers,

No Bank officials In Tyrone? How many doctors? We could dig all day but unless you're going to highlight an actual truth that Dub players get jobs from the county because they are Dublin players then it's a myth.

So either dig or don't

Tiarnan McCann is a pharmacist in Dublin.

Majority of Tyrone panel is comprised of students and teachers. We must have 10+ teachers on it

Morgan
Harte
Sludden
Bradley
McGeary
Meyler
C McCann
Rafferty

and a few others came out of Marys.


McCurry is a plumber
Rory Brennan is a software engineer
Ben McDonnell a trainee accountant
Think HP McGeary is also a plumber
You despise teachers, don't you? You think they're lazy and work shy

I suppose then according to your logic (not mine) that would explain why the Tyrone team can't challenge Dublin - too may teachers who are simply not willing to put in the work

I've great regard for teachers by the way

You need a qualification to teach. I don't have much regard for the profession but it's not a job that would seem to be jobs for the boys like the culture of Dublin GAA.

I wouldn't expect a champagne socialist like yourself to understand though. You really have so much in common with your hero Donald Trump.
Apparently I'm a socialist and a fan of Donald Trump, this just gets better, and by better, I mean funnier

You've been pouring bile about teachers for years on the internet, calling them lazy and work shy

Then when you're put right about the lie that Dublin players have cushy jobs, all you can do is repeat the same lazy, untrue slogan

The amount of projection here is comical

You're far from a socialist, mate. You like to think you are but your ego probably can't see allow you see straight. You spent so much time obsessing over Donald Trump you've slowly morphed into him.

You're the who is dealing with the uncomfortable truth, you are happy to maintain the imbalance in the current funding structure and you are happy to engage in spin and deflection. You can try and muddy the waters about my views on teachers as much as you want, that's not the point here.

Teaching is a profession that you need a certain qualification for, it has a standardised payscale with standardised hours and an intercounty footballer cannot get appointed to that job unless it has the relevant education qualification. That's the bottom line and as you much as you want to weave and bullshit your way around Dublin players taking up such prominent roles as recruitment officials for DIT, bank officials and wealth managers for for major banks and whatever the f**k it is Dean Rock reckons he's doing then go ahead. Dublin GAA adopts a jobs for the boys in sponsored cars culture and it needs to be addressed and tackled for the sake of the intercounty game.

We know why you don't want it to be addressed because despite your faux socialist projection, you're really just a Nigel Dodds like protestant ascendancy figure tinged with Donald Trump infantility.
I got a good laugh out of that

You definitely can't be accused of doing the thing that Meath and Kildare are doing - not trying hard enough

From the Bunker

I'm not from Dublin and I will be cheering them on next month. The fix for six!

From the Bunker

MR2 - There must be someone on the take in Mayo! That can be the only answer. Where does the money go?

sid waddell

Quote from: From the Bunker on November 25, 2020, 12:00:34 AM
I'm not from Dublin and I will be cheering them on next month. The fix for six!
It's said the GAA is about pride in place and identity but perhaps that's wrong

Maybe the future is Dublin supporters clubs in every county, like Liverpool and Manchester United

That'll make up for the bored Dubs who are no longer attending

Everybody aboard the bandwagon

Milltown Row2

Quote from: From the Bunker on November 25, 2020, 12:04:07 AM
MR2 - There must be someone on the take in Mayo! That can be the only answer. Where does the money go?

Cork must be pissing it against the wall as well
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

From the Bunker

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2020, 12:05:56 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 25, 2020, 12:04:07 AM
MR2 - There must be someone on the take in Mayo! That can be the only answer. Where does the money go?

Cork must be pissing it against the wall as well

Pissing what?

sid waddell

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2020, 12:05:56 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 25, 2020, 12:04:07 AM
MR2 - There must be someone on the take in Mayo! That can be the only answer. Where does the money go?

Cork must be pissing it against the wall as well
The money is resting in Frank Murphy's account

From the Bunker

Quote from: sid waddell on November 25, 2020, 12:08:54 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2020, 12:05:56 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 25, 2020, 12:04:07 AM
MR2 - There must be someone on the take in Mayo! That can be the only answer. Where does the money go?

Cork must be pissing it against the wall as well
The money is resting in Frank Murphy's account

Unlike the Dubs who got one for free - Cork have a Stadium to pay for and maintain.

From the Bunker


restorepride

Quote from: marty34 on November 24, 2020, 11:49:17 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 24, 2020, 11:46:12 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 24, 2020, 11:43:17 PM
The issue of Dublin and money comes up regularly.

My opinion is that this is a one off talented group of players who have come along at the right time.  Problem is now that they are at the top, all they need is one or two new players to stay there, at thst high level. 

Regards the money and funding re: the footballers, the question that I have is why are their hurlers, with the same "benefits" not wining Leinster with their B team and winning 5 in a row Liam Mc Carthys?

I think it's time people stop whinging about Dublin get this and that etc. and get their own county into a bit of shape. No excuses - put the work in at club level.

I'm not a Dub btw.

Where are u from?

As stated, not from Dublin.
The present Dublin players are the best footballing team I have ever seen - fabulous to watch and I really enjoy their style.  However, his can make some others very jealous.  Dublin have won 59 provincial titles.  Kerry have won 81 - not much complaint about that - until Dublin started to dominate Leinster!  Up to the rest to reach the standard - tough going, but that is the way it has always been.  Fermanagh have never won Ulster but by Jaysus they try hard every year.  Kerry won 7 All-Irelands in 9 years in the 70/80s and were getting funding from advertisements - no complaints.  They won 28 Munsters inside 36 years, in living memory, and no complaints.  Dublin players deserve more appreciation not jealousy.  I'm not a Dub, btw!!!!

sid waddell

Quote from: marty34 on November 24, 2020, 11:43:17 PM
The issue of Dublin and money comes up regularly.

My opinion is that this is a one off talented group of players who have come along at the right time.  Problem is now that they are at the top, all they need is one or two new players to stay there, at thst high level. 

Cluxton, MDMA, Cian O'Sullivan, James McCarthy, Kevin McManamon, Philly McMahon, Mick Fitzsimons, Jonny Cooper, Dean Rock, most if not all of these guys will be gone in the next year or two

Yes a lot of the younger lads are very good, but that core of leadership is hugely difficult to replace

Nothing lasts forever

There's no guarantee at all that what replaces them will be as good, I would say it's likely they won't be

The likelihood is that Dublin will follow the same path as Kilkenny in hurling, always there, but not at the same level as the peak

What followed Shefflin and Walsh and Delaney and Larkin and Fennelly and Brennan and Tyrrell and Power largely wasn't quite as good

Kilkenny had Reid, Hogan, Padraig Walsh, Cillian Buckley, Paul Murphy, Walter Walsh, Colin Fennelly, Conor Fogarty to follow on from those lads and remain there or thereabouts - as Dublin will have Kilkenny, Fenton, Small, O'Callaghan, Mannion, Howard and hopefully Jack McCaffrey to follow on for a few years from the players who will be departing soon

But even most of those guys will be hitting the 30 mark before very long, it's basically a decade since most were minors

Every year from 2008 on, the Kilkenny team was getting ever so slightly weaker every year because good as the replacements were, they mostly weren't quite at the level of those who were departing

This will almost certainly be the case with Dublin too