Leinster Championship 2020

[Hound]

There have been no player work profiles in Programs for years.

There are many GAA players who take the piss of being eternal College Students. Many don't work or are in handy makey up jobs.

I presume there was a decision along the way to delete that section of Player Profiles as it was a bit embarrassing and threw a spanner in the Amateur ethos the GAA likes to hide behind.

Just a FYI all the bios for the Dublin players remain on the Dublin GAA website for any curious people out there. There are a few students on the team but incredibly the vast majority have real jobs and don't live the life of professional footballers

Slightly out of date but the principle is the same. The Irish Times had a comparison between Dublin and Mayo in 2018 and the mix of teachers, physios, professionals, students, reps was very similar. Obviously the big advantage the Dubs had was travel from work to training. 

The banks do seem to give out a few handy numbers, but they're very careful to spread it around the a number of counties. I was at a late lunch event a couple of years where a Kerry footballer was guest speaker. Things were running late and he was asked how long we have him for, and he said he had to be back at 5, so he could clock off. So probably there are a few from many counties with that handy enough number.

On the other hand my sister was working directly with Cian O'Sullivan one year in an accountancy firm when we were playing Mayo in the final and there was some nonsense talk that the Dublin County Board paid for all players to have weeks off before and after the final! When my sister was going on about how busy they were with some tax deadline, and Cian was only able to get the Friday off for the week leading up to the final and was back in work full on from Wednesday after the win.

There are morons out there who genuinely believe that none of the Dubs have proper jobs and most are full time professional footballers. Fake teachers, fake doctors, fake chartered accountants, etc. But as I said you'd have to be a complete moron to believe that.

[Milltown Row2]

So college is the standard required to get a job or be a county footballers

You make me laugh

[Angelo]

So college is the standard required to get a job or be a county footballers

You make me laugh

Teaching is not a job for the boys. It has standardised payscales and requires a specific qualification to work as a teacher. You can argue over the merits of how much they work or don't but it's a standardised thing across the profession.

There's a big difference with that and players being give no show ambassadorial jobs with decent paychecks that allows them to function as a full time athletes. For some reason that is an uncomfortable truth.

[Angelo]

There have been no player work profiles in Programs for years.

There are many GAA players who take the piss of being eternal College Students. Many don't work or are in handy makey up jobs.

I presume there was a decision along the way to delete that section of Player Profiles as it was a bit embarrassing and threw a spanner in the Amateur ethos the GAA likes to hide behind.

Just a FYI all the bios for the Dublin players remain on the Dublin GAA website for any curious people out there. There are a few students on the team but incredibly the vast majority have real jobs and don't live the life of professional footballers

Slightly out of date but the principle is the same. The Irish Times had a comparison between Dublin and Mayo in 2018 and the mix of teachers, physios, professionals, students, reps was very similar. Obviously the big advantage the Dubs had was travel from work to training. 

The banks do seem to give out a few handy numbers, but they're very careful to spread it around the a number of counties. I was at a late lunch event a couple of years where a Kerry footballer was guest speaker. Things were running late and he was asked how long we have him for, and he said he had to be back at 5, so he could clock off. So probably there are a few from many counties with that handy enough number.

On the other hand my sister was working directly with Cian O'Sullivan one year in an accountancy firm when we were playing Mayo in the final and there was some nonsense talk that the Dublin County Board paid for all players to have weeks off before and after the final! When my sister was going on about how busy they were with some tax deadline, and Cian was only able to get the Friday off for the week leading up to the final and was back in work full on from Wednesday after the win.

There are morons out there who genuinely believe that none of the Dubs have proper jobs and most are full time professional footballers. Fake teachers, fake doctors, fake chartered accountants, etc. But as I said you'd have to be a complete moron to believe that.

Fake doctors?

Plural?

And you're talking about morons?

The only player with a genuine full time job left the Dublin panel shortly after he took up his first employment role.

You're a good man to talk about morons alright.

[Milltown Row2]

So college is the standard required to get a job or be a county footballers

You make me laugh

Teaching is not a job for the boys. It has standardised payscales and requires a specific qualification to work as a teacher. You can argue over the merits of how much they work or don't but it's a standardised thing across the profession.

There's a big difference with that and players being give no show ambassadorial jobs with decent paychecks that allows them to function as a full time athletes. For some reason that is an uncomfortable truth.

You keep harping on about ambassadors. Name me the ten ambassadors on the Dublin team please

[sid waddell]

It's kind of funny that people say kildare and meath should be better because they have large populations.

Dublin's population increase since 1990 is larger the meath or kildare's present total population.

The crux of the advantage is population, not funding. The funding disparity is huge but not a big factor in Dublins domination.

Much, probably most of Dublin's population increase is driven by migration

The area where I grew up has far less children and young people in general than it had in the 1980s and 1990s, not surprisingly the local club is struggling

[twohands!!!]

What's really going to expose the Dubs spending on inter-county teams is that next year is going to be the first full year that Croke Park are going to be administering the mileage/player allowance scheme so these figures [mileage/player allowance] won't be reported as part of the inter-county spending in the various county reports financial reports.

It's going to be interesting to see Dublin GAA trying to spin their spending on inter-county teams when these mileage figures are taken out given the lack of miles Dublin players would be travelling compared to pretty much all other counties.

[LeoMc]

So college is the standard required to get a job or be a county footballers

You make me laugh

Teaching is not a job for the boys. It has standardised payscales and requires a specific qualification to work as a teacher. You can argue over the merits of how much they work or don't but it's a standardised thing across the profession.

There's a big difference with that and players being give no show ambassadorial jobs with decent paychecks that allows them to function as a full time athletes. For some reason that is an uncomfortable truth.

You keep harping on about ambassadors. Name me the ten ambassadors on the Dublin team please

The vast majority, dontcha know.

[sid waddell]

Any bigger names than mccaffery? Doctor

Teachers,

No Bank officials In Tyrone? How many doctors? We could dig all day but unless you're going to highlight an actual truth that Dub players get jobs from the county because they are Dublin players then it's a myth.

So either dig or don't

Tiarnan McCann is a pharmacist in Dublin.

Majority of Tyrone panel is comprised of students and teachers. We must have 10+ teachers on it

Morgan
Harte
Sludden
Bradley
McGeary
Meyler
C McCann
Rafferty

and a few others came out of Marys.


McCurry is a plumber
Rory Brennan is a software engineer
Ben McDonnell a trainee accountant
Think HP McGeary is also a plumber

You despise teachers, don't you? You think they're lazy and work shy

I suppose then according to your logic (not mine) that would explain why the Tyrone team can't challenge Dublin - too may teachers who are simply not willing to put in the work

I've great regard for teachers by the way

You need a qualification to teach. I don't have much regard for the profession but it's not a job that would seem to be jobs for the boys like the culture of Dublin GAA.

I wouldn't expect a champagne socialist like yourself to understand though. You really have so much in common with your hero Donald Trump.

Apparently I'm a socialist and a fan of Donald Trump, this just gets better, and by better, I mean funnier

You've been pouring bile about teachers for years on the internet, calling them lazy and work shy

Then when you're put right about the lie that Dublin players have cushy jobs, all you can do is repeat the same lazy, untrue slogan

The amount of projection here is comical

[Angelo]

So college is the standard required to get a job or be a county footballers

You make me laugh

Teaching is not a job for the boys. It has standardised payscales and requires a specific qualification to work as a teacher. You can argue over the merits of how much they work or don't but it's a standardised thing across the profession.

There's a big difference with that and players being give no show ambassadorial jobs with decent paychecks that allows them to function as a full time athletes. For some reason that is an uncomfortable truth.

You keep harping on about ambassadors. Name me the ten ambassadors on the Dublin team please

Ambassadorial jobs.

Rock
Cooper
McMahon
Fenton
MDMA
Scully
Small
McCarthy

[macdanger2]

What's really going to expose the Dubs spending on inter-county teams is that next year is going to be the first full year that Croke Park are going to be administering the mileage/player allowance scheme so these figures [mileage/player allowance] won't be reported as part of the inter-county spending in the various county reports financial reports.

It's going to be interesting to see Dublin GAA trying to spin their spending on inter-county teams when these mileage figures are taken out given the lack of miles Dublin players would be travelling compared to pretty much all other counties.

Will be mileage expenses still be paid for by each individual county and just administered from CP? It's an expense that disproportionately hits counties on the western seaboard

[dublin7]

So college is the standard required to get a job or be a county footballers

You make me laugh

Teaching is not a job for the boys. It has standardised payscales and requires a specific qualification to work as a teacher. You can argue over the merits of how much they work or don't but it's a standardised thing across the profession.

There's a big difference with that and players being give no show ambassadorial jobs with decent paychecks that allows them to function as a full time athletes. For some reason that is an uncomfortable truth.

You keep harping on about ambassadors. Name me the ten ambassadors on the Dublin team please

Ambassadorial jobs.

Rock
Cooper
McMahon
Fenton
MDMA
Scully
Small
McCarthy

Last time replying to your trolling nonsense:

Philly McMahon OWNS and runs his own gyms
MDMA is doing work with inner city communities on a daily basis. The communities he's working with are last places politicans/TDs will turn up for photo ups and cheap publicity

[Angelo]

Any bigger names than mccaffery? Doctor

Teachers,

No Bank officials In Tyrone? How many doctors? We could dig all day but unless you're going to highlight an actual truth that Dub players get jobs from the county because they are Dublin players then it's a myth.

So either dig or don't

Tiarnan McCann is a pharmacist in Dublin.

Majority of Tyrone panel is comprised of students and teachers. We must have 10+ teachers on it

Morgan
Harte
Sludden
Bradley
McGeary
Meyler
C McCann
Rafferty

and a few others came out of Marys.


McCurry is a plumber
Rory Brennan is a software engineer
Ben McDonnell a trainee accountant
Think HP McGeary is also a plumber

You despise teachers, don't you? You think they're lazy and work shy

I suppose then according to your logic (not mine) that would explain why the Tyrone team can't challenge Dublin - too may teachers who are simply not willing to put in the work

I've great regard for teachers by the way

You need a qualification to teach. I don't have much regard for the profession but it's not a job that would seem to be jobs for the boys like the culture of Dublin GAA.

I wouldn't expect a champagne socialist like yourself to understand though. You really have so much in common with your hero Donald Trump.

Apparently I'm a socialist and a fan of Donald Trump, this just gets better, and by better, I mean funnier

You've been pouring bile about teachers for years on the internet, calling them lazy and work shy

Then when you're put right about the lie that Dublin players have cushy jobs, all you can do is repeat the same lazy, untrue slogan

The amount of projection here is comical

You're far from a socialist, mate. You like to think you are but your ego probably can't see allow you see straight. You spent so much time obsessing over Donald Trump you've slowly morphed into him.

You're the who is dealing with the uncomfortable truth, you are happy to maintain the imbalance in the current funding structure and you are happy to engage in spin and deflection. You can try and muddy the waters about my views on teachers as much as you want, that's not the point here.

Teaching is a profession that you need a certain qualification for, it has a standardised payscale with standardised hours and an intercounty footballer cannot get appointed to that job unless it has the relevant education qualification. That's the bottom line and as you much as you want to weave and bullshit your way around Dublin players taking up such prominent roles as recruitment officials for DIT, bank officials and wealth managers for for major banks and whatever the f**k it is Dean Rock reckons he's doing then go ahead. Dublin GAA adopts a jobs for the boys in sponsored cars culture and it needs to be addressed and tackled for the sake of the intercounty game.

We know why you don't want it to be addressed because despite your faux socialist projection, you're really just a Nigel Dodds like protestant ascendancy figure tinged with Donald Trump infantility.

[Angelo]

So college is the standard required to get a job or be a county footballers

You make me laugh

Teaching is not a job for the boys. It has standardised payscales and requires a specific qualification to work as a teacher. You can argue over the merits of how much they work or don't but it's a standardised thing across the profession.

There's a big difference with that and players being give no show ambassadorial jobs with decent paychecks that allows them to function as a full time athletes. For some reason that is an uncomfortable truth.

You keep harping on about ambassadors. Name me the ten ambassadors on the Dublin team please

Ambassadorial jobs.

Rock
Cooper
McMahon
Fenton
MDMA
Scully
Small
McCarthy

Last time replying to your trolling nonsense:

Philly McMahon OWNS and runs his own gyms
MDMA is doing work with inner city communities on a daily basis. The communities he's working with are last places politicans/TDs will turn up for photo ups and cheap publicity

How did they fund that?

In MDMA's case not many teachers would have raised enough money to turn to humanitarianism in their early 30s.

I suppose a free car helps.

[From the Bunker]

Can we agree that the following makes no difference to a Good/Great intercounty side:

Disproportionate County Sponsorship

Disproportionate player Sponsorship

Disproportionate GAA Funding

Disproportionate underage coaching 15 years previous.

Disproportionate intimidating home fan base

Disproportionate Home games

Disproportionate Population

Disproportionate Job security

Disproportionate in how far you have to Travel to training.

Disproportionate in how far you have to Travel to games.

Having access to a centre of excellence.

Floodlight training pitches with all weather surfaces and a plethora of other ready made facilities.

The best you can buy in Chartered physios for every game and Chartered physio sessions at training

The best you can by in people to set up your Strength & Conditioning sessions

The best you can buy in advisor for proper dietary Meals after training and games

The best you can buy in Medical cover and proper sport injury consultation.

Having clubs subsidise the development of your county ground.

The best you can buy in Coaches.

The best you can buy in sports psychologists.

The best you can buy as head of performance analysis.

The best that money can buy in a cameraman - shoots match footage for analysis

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/dublin-backroom-team-picture-98181