Leinster Championship 2020

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dublin7

#180
Quote from: BennyCake on November 21, 2020, 11:08:32 PM
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes it's probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.

Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. There's no point to it anymore.

The munster championship has been a 2 horse race at best for decades.

Are the likes of Leitrim, Waterford, Limerick, Antrim sick of the provincial championships?

Dubs have had their share of heartbreak and humiliations in the not so recent past. The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

trileacman

Quote from: dublin7 on November 21, 2020, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 21, 2020, 11:08:32 PM
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes it's probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.

Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. There's no point to it anymore.

The munster championship has been a 2 horse race at best for decades.

Are the likes of Leitrim, Waterford, Limerick, Antrim sick of the provincial championships?

Dubs have had their share of heartbreak and humiliations in the not so recent past. The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

It would be churlish to deny that tonight is anything other than a hollow victory for Dublin. The team of the 90s which was not as good as this one but had such titanic battles against Meath will be remembered more fondly that team tonight.

People said it was a shame no fans were in the stadium for the cork Kerry game and they were right but it was a blessing there were no fans in croker for the game tonight.
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BennyCake

Quote from: dublin7 on November 21, 2020, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 21, 2020, 11:08:32 PM
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes it's probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.

Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. There's no point to it anymore.

The munster championship has been a 2 horse race for decades.

Are the likes of Leitrim, Waterford, Limerick, Antrim sick of the provincial championships?

Dubs have had their share of heartbreak and humiliations in the not so recent past. The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

Yes, but as least it was a two horse race. And on most occasions, at least somewhat close.

Ach boo hoo. Heartbreak? Seriously? Ye had 22 All Ireland's before 2011, and 158 Leinster's.

Heartbreak is what Mayo had in recent years, going so close for a first Sam since 1951. Heartbreak is Dara O'Se catching a point to prevent Limerick winning their first Munster in 100+ years. Heartbreak is Louth being cheated out of a first Leinster in 60 years.

BennyCake

Quote from: trileacman on November 21, 2020, 11:56:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on November 21, 2020, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 21, 2020, 11:08:32 PM
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes it's probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.

Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. There's no point to it anymore.

The munster championship has been a 2 horse race at best for decades.

Are the likes of Leitrim, Waterford, Limerick, Antrim sick of the provincial championships?

Dubs have had their share of heartbreak and humiliations in the not so recent past. The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

It would be churlish to deny that tonight is anything other than a hollow victory for Dublin. The team of the 90s which was not as good as this one but had such titanic battles against Meath will be remembered more fondly that team tonight.

People said it was a shame no fans were in the stadium for the cork Kerry game and they were right but it was a blessing there were no fans in croker for the game tonight.

Yeah I'd agree with that.

UpMeeyo

Quote from: dublin7 on November 21, 2020, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 21, 2020, 11:08:32 PM
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes it's probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.

Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. There's no point to it anymore.

The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

"the greatest ever team" is fine if its the same 15- 20 lads. The team that started today had 6 starters from the team that started the 2015 AI final. Id say if you started with the 2011 team you've probably already got close to 15 all time greats. I don't think anyone has issue with the players - they're class, but when the conveyor belt churns out 2-3 all-timers every year how can any team compete?

dublin7

#185
Quote from: trileacman on November 21, 2020, 11:56:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on November 21, 2020, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 21, 2020, 11:08:32 PM
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes it's probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.

Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. There's no point to it anymore.

The munster championship has been a 2 horse race at best for decades.

Are the likes of Leitrim, Waterford, Limerick, Antrim sick of the provincial championships?

Dubs have had their share of heartbreak and humiliations in the not so recent past. The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

It would be churlish to deny that tonight is anything other than a hollow victory for Dublin. The team of the 90s which was not as good as this one but had such titanic battles against Meath will be remembered more fondly that team tonight.

People said it was a shame no fans were in the stadium for the cork Kerry game and they were right but it was a blessing there were no fans in croker for the game tonight.

Course it was blessing Croker was empty. You don't want anyone in a ground to watch Cluxton's excellence, Fenton's fielding or Kilkenny's shooting and vision. Shame in Dubs for watching and god forbid enjoy them at their best.

It would be for the best if yourself and Benny don't watch Dublin anymore. Things are tough enough at the moment without upsetting yourselves at Dublin's brilliance.

Silkyskillssunshinee

Quote from: dublin7 on November 22, 2020, 12:22:15 AM
Quote from: trileacman on November 21, 2020, 11:56:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on November 21, 2020, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 21, 2020, 11:08:32 PM
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes it's probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.

Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. There's no point to it anymore.

The munster championship has been a 2 horse race at best for decades.

Are the likes of Leitrim, Waterford, Limerick, Antrim sick of the provincial championships?

Dubs have had their share of heartbreak and humiliations in the not so recent past. The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

It would be churlish to deny that tonight is anything other than a hollow victory for Dublin. The team of the 90s which was not as good as this one but had such titanic battles against Meath will be remembered more fondly that team tonight.

People said it was a shame no fans were in the stadium for the cork Kerry game and they were right but it was a blessing there were no fans in croker for the game tonight.

Course it was blessing Croker was empty. You don't want anyone in a ground to watch Cluxton's excellence, Fenton's fielding or Kilkenny's shooting and vision. Shame in Dubs for watching and god forbid enjoy them at their best.

It would be for the best if yourself and Benny don't watch Dublin anymore. Things are tough enough at the moment without upsetting yourselves at Dublin's brilliance.

Did you really enjoy watching that game tonight? Absolutely no competitive edge to it. I genuinely do wonder when the Dubs will get sick of winning pointless Leinster games by cricket scores. Maybe when they've won 20 in a row.

thejuice

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 21, 2020, 11:27:18 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 21, 2020, 09:31:23 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 21, 2020, 09:04:24 PM
Class acts. Just absolutely miles ahead but its down to the rest to catch up
Go away Jarlath.
The rest haven't got 1.4m population nor around 40% of all Irish economic activity
You can cry about how unfair it is or you can grow a pair of balls, remove your head from your hole and do something about it. At the end of the day its 15 vs 15 and they are only human. Meath were beat mentally before a ball was kicked.

Wrong. Actually there was a fair amount of optimism in the county and surrounding the team going in today. The fact is we are an improving team and yet there's still a massive gulf there, it's not a case of belief or aggression or any of that stuff. We haven't given up. Across the board in this county we've been pulling out all the stops and looking for every advantage that we can get to get back to the top. But it's a much harder climb now than in the 80's and 90's.

This Meath team are hungry and desperate for success. But the Dublin lads gliding past you while you're running at full tilt isn't something to do with your attitude or confidence. They are simply better prepared, more talented and better coached. And this is one of the best coached and physically prepared Meath teams in almost a decade.
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016

Gael85

Quote from: dublin7 on November 22, 2020, 12:22:15 AM
Quote from: trileacman on November 21, 2020, 11:56:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on November 21, 2020, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 21, 2020, 11:08:32 PM
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes it's probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.

Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. There's no point to it anymore.

The munster championship has been a 2 horse race at best for decades.

Are the likes of Leitrim, Waterford, Limerick, Antrim sick of the provincial championships?

Dubs have had their share of heartbreak and humiliations in the not so recent past. The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

It would be churlish to deny that tonight is anything other than a hollow victory for Dublin. The team of the 90s which was not as good as this one but had such titanic battles against Meath will be remembered more fondly that team tonight.

People said it was a shame no fans were in the stadium for the cork Kerry game and they were right but it was a blessing there were no fans in croker for the game tonight.

Course it was blessing Croker was empty. You don't want anyone in a ground to watch Cluxton's excellence, Fenton's fielding or Kilkenny's shooting and vision. Shame in Dubs for watching and god forbid enjoy them at their best.

It would be for the best if yourself and Benny don't watch Dublin anymore. Things are tough enough at the moment without upsetting yourselves at Dublin's brilliance.

Do you think Mannion will start ahead of  P.Small the next day?

BennyCake

Quote from: dublin7 on November 22, 2020, 12:22:15 AM
Quote from: trileacman on November 21, 2020, 11:56:52 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on November 21, 2020, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 21, 2020, 11:08:32 PM
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes it's probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.

Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. There's no point to it anymore.

The munster championship has been a 2 horse race at best for decades.

Are the likes of Leitrim, Waterford, Limerick, Antrim sick of the provincial championships?

Dubs have had their share of heartbreak and humiliations in the not so recent past. The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

It would be churlish to deny that tonight is anything other than a hollow victory for Dublin. The team of the 90s which was not as good as this one but had such titanic battles against Meath will be remembered more fondly that team tonight.

People said it was a shame no fans were in the stadium for the cork Kerry game and they were right but it was a blessing there were no fans in croker for the game tonight.

Course it was blessing Croker was empty. You don't want anyone in a ground to watch Cluxton's excellence, Fenton's fielding or Kilkenny's shooting and vision. Shame in Dubs for watching and god forbid enjoy them at their best.

It would be for the best if yourself and Benny don't watch Dublin anymore. Things are tough enough at the moment without upsetting yourselves at Dublin's brilliance.

Dublin are great at what they do. I've said that already. But it's boring watching their matches. I watched the first 15 minutes tonight before I got bored. Left it on in the background until HT, then stopped watching. You can only admire Dublin for so long before you get bored and go play tiddlywinks or do a bit of hoovering.

It's like watching a great snooker player knock in century after century. You admire his genius, but after a while it gets boring. All you want to see is a tight frame, with some great safety play and a man needing snookers.

Milltown Row2

That's not Dublin's problem. Other teams need to step up.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

JoG2


mrdeeds

Quote from: JoG2 on November 22, 2020, 01:01:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2020, 12:59:22 AM
That's not Dublin's problem. Other teams need to step up.

How?

How is right? Less money,  less resources,  less population. But other teams are to blame. Only Dublin competes with other sports so they need all the money.

balladmaker

Quote from: mrdeeds on November 22, 2020, 01:33:31 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on November 22, 2020, 01:01:17 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 22, 2020, 12:59:22 AM
That's not Dublin's problem. Other teams need to step up.

How?

How is right? Less money,  less resources,  less population. But other teams are to blame. Only Dublin competes with other sports so they need all the money.

Lads and Lassies ... Dublin are, without question, the greatest team in the history of the game.  GAA are an amateur organisation with semi-pro teams.  With population and financial 'doping' of Dublin GAA, here we are, and will be for some time to come.

Ed Ricketts

Quote from: UpMeeyo on November 22, 2020, 12:16:05 AM
Quote from: dublin7 on November 21, 2020, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 21, 2020, 11:08:32 PM
Are Dublin fans not bored waltzing through Leinster so easily?

Yes it's probably great your team is winning, but no matches are in any way competitive. No close games, no hard hitting, no end to end, edge of your seat stuff. You need games to get the excitement going, get the blood pumping

The All Ireland is the same way bar the odd close battle every 3/4 years.

Yes, Dublin are great at what they do, but I am so bored watching any of their matches. There's no point to it anymore.

The majority of Dublin fans just enjoy getting the chance to watch the greatest ever team play. Some of these players will go down as all time greats.

"the greatest ever team" is fine if its the same 15- 20 lads. The team that started today had 6 starters from the team that started the 2015 AI final. Id say if you started with the 2011 team you've probably already got close to 15 all time greats. I don't think anyone has issue with the players - they're class, but when the conveyor belt churns out 2-3 all-timers every year how can any team compete?

This is the difference between modern Dublin and the great teams of the past.

Those great teams had shelf lives. They were mortal. Their players got old, pissed off into the sunset, and other counties had their turn at winning things. There was a natural cycle.

Now Dublin are immortal. They continually regenerate, and every incarnation just reaches further ahead of the pack. There is no hope that time and old age will come to the rescue of the rest of the country.

This is an unprecedented crisis in the history of the GAA. Belief has evaporated in all but a couple of counties. The All Ireland championship is functionally dead as a competition.

We can't keep our heads in the sand with delusional arguments that it would all be fine if only everyone else just 'tried harder'. It's long past time for a grown up discussion about what happens next. There will be no coming back from this if real solutions are not pursued, and very soon.
Doc would listen to any kind of nonsense and change it for you to a kind of wisdom.