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Title: Gas or Oil
Post by: JoG2 on January 17, 2018, 12:23:08 PM
Our area can now avail of Firmus gas. Have heard it's a good bit cheaper to heat the home / water with gas than oil. Anyone switch from oil to gas? thanks
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: haranguerer on January 18, 2018, 08:59:15 AM
Haven't switched Jog, but have had both at different stages in different houses, and its the first thing I'd do if I moved into a place with oil. I've found gas to be preferable in pretty much every aspect.
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: JoG2 on January 18, 2018, 09:40:18 AM
good man, that seems to be the general consensus haranguerer. Will ring them today to see the craic
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 18, 2018, 10:32:43 AM
Just about to get Gas in JOG. Moved to a new house and need the oil boiler replaced so taking the plunge to Gas (plus ran out on Boxing day). Fed up trudging in and out of the garden dipping the tank all the time to see what oil there is. Most people we know have Gas and say its the best thing theyve done in years.
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: playwiththewind1st on January 18, 2018, 10:36:45 AM
I moved from a house with oil to one that already had gas installed in 2016. Obviously, I didn't have the hassle of having to get the gas put in, but I think the gas is far easier, to be honest.
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2018, 11:06:51 AM
Is there a grant going about now also? price wise its the same, as the in laws have the gas and they pay roughly the same yearly as we do for oil
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: Minder on January 18, 2018, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2018, 11:06:51 AM
Is there a grant going about now also? price wise its the same, as the in laws have the gas and they pay roughly the same yearly as we do for oil

I think the convenience is the big thing, instant hot water
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2018, 11:26:11 AM
yeah, that would be my main thing, as someone said going out to the tank to check if you havent one of those readers to let you know, bleeding of the rads when the oil runs out is a pain.. so yeah, £3000 needed now..
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: GJL on January 18, 2018, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2018, 11:26:11 AM
yeah, that would be my main thing, as someone said going out to the tank to check if you havent one of those readers to let you know, bleeding of the rads when the oil runs out is a pain.. so yeah, £3000 needed now..

Eh?
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 18, 2018, 11:28:22 AM
Quote from: GJL on January 18, 2018, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2018, 11:26:11 AM
yeah, that would be my main thing, as someone said going out to the tank to check if you havent one of those readers to let you know, bleeding of the rads when the oil runs out is a pain.. so yeah, £3000 needed now..

Eh?

Boiler I'd assume.
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: lurganblue on January 18, 2018, 11:45:05 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2018, 11:26:11 AM
yeah, that would be my main thing, as someone said going out to the tank to check if you havent one of those readers to let you know, bleeding of the rads when the oil runs out is a pain.. so yeah, £3000 needed now..

Is that how much it costs to convert then?
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 18, 2018, 12:01:39 PM
There was a grant before Christmas but it was means tested. We were quoted £2400, but have heard btw that and 3k. Get at least 3 quotes and dont let to each on what the previous were...
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: GJL on January 18, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
No gas in our area but I'm considering upgrading my old oil burner to a condenser type. Is there a grant for such?
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: thebuzz on January 18, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: GJL on January 18, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
No gas in our area but I'm considering upgrading my old oil burner to a condenser type. Is there a grant for such?

No gas in our area either. We have underfloor heating and although it's a nice heat it definitely uses more oil than radiators. Have been talking about getting a condensing boiler but haven't got around to it yet. I think the grant is means tested.
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2018, 01:32:13 PM
Quote from: GJL on January 18, 2018, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 18, 2018, 11:26:11 AM
yeah, that would be my main thing, as someone said going out to the tank to check if you havent one of those readers to let you know, bleeding of the rads when the oil runs out is a pain.. so yeah, £3000 needed now..

Eh?

Yeah what i found was that the bolier needed bled, which was a bollox, for mine i had to blow out the pipe till the oil filtered through to the boiler, but for some reason on some of the radiators it lost pressure and i had to use the rad key and let the air out!
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: giveherlong on January 18, 2018, 01:38:01 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on January 18, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: GJL on January 18, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
No gas in our area but I'm considering upgrading my old oil burner to a condenser type. Is there a grant for such?

No gas in our area either. We have underfloor heating and although it's a nice heat it definitely uses more oil than radiators. Have been talking about getting a condensing boiler but haven't got around to it yet. I think the grant is means tested.

A bigger initial investment but an air source heat pump is best for running under floor heating
Have you liquid screed and what depth is it
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: johnneycool on January 18, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on January 18, 2018, 01:38:01 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on January 18, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: GJL on January 18, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
No gas in our area but I'm considering upgrading my old oil burner to a condenser type. Is there a grant for such?

No gas in our area either. We have underfloor heating and although it's a nice heat it definitely uses more oil than radiators. Have been talking about getting a condensing boiler but haven't got around to it yet. I think the grant is means tested.

A bigger initial investment but an air source heat pump is best for running under floor heating
Have you liquid screed and what depth is it


I've underfloor in and don't find it expensive at all.
In saying that I spunked a fortune on insulation and with the ultraflo screed less than 50mm you get the heat quicker than conventional sand/cement screed at 100mm.

When did you put in the underfloor?
Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: JoG2 on January 18, 2018, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on January 18, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: GJL on January 18, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
No gas in our area but I'm considering upgrading my old oil burner to a condenser type. Is there a grant for such?

No gas in our area either. We have underfloor heating and although it's a nice heat it definitely uses more oil than radiators. Have been talking about getting a condensing boiler but haven't got around to it yet. I think the grant is means tested.

I think the combined household income has to be below £40k (you get a £400 grant) according to the website. Have thought about the condenser myself. I suppose whatever a man does, they'll be an initial outlay hit

Title: Re: Gas or Oil
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 18, 2018, 01:59:17 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on January 18, 2018, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: giveherlong on January 18, 2018, 01:38:01 PM
Quote from: thebuzz on January 18, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
Quote from: GJL on January 18, 2018, 12:49:21 PM
No gas in our area but I'm considering upgrading my old oil burner to a condenser type. Is there a grant for such?

No gas in our area either. We have underfloor heating and although it's a nice heat it definitely uses more oil than radiators. Have been talking about getting a condensing boiler but haven't got around to it yet. I think the grant is means tested.

A bigger initial investment but an air source heat pump is best for running under floor heating
Have you liquid screed and what depth is it


I've underfloor in and don't find it expensive at all.
In saying that I spunked a fortune on insulation and with the ultraflo screed less than 50mm you get the heat quicker than conventional sand/cement screed at 100mm.

When did you put in the underfloor?

We did the same and have to say it's very easy on the oil. But same as you, spent a fortune insulating. Thankfully wsa buying the insulation a couple of years ago as I believe it has went up significantly in price since then. We had debated about the sand cement screed as some people said it holds the heat better but is slower to warm up.So went with the liquid screed. It's been a great job.

We debated the air source heat pump (and the geo-therm) and were going to go with that when the grants were still there. We were actually at the stage of ordering it when the grant was pulled (Thanks Arlene). But we were thankful that we hadn't gone too far as I know ones who had it installed but not signed off and didn't qualify for the grant. Without the grant it would take a bit more thinking about as there's fairly hefty set up costs.