China Coronavirus

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delgany

Quote from: trailer on April 03, 2020, 08:29:57 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 03, 2020, 03:45:24 PM
Quote from: trailer on April 03, 2020, 03:35:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 03, 2020, 03:01:38 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on April 03, 2020, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: trailer on April 03, 2020, 01:07:48 PM
Years of DUP and SF under-funding the NHS and then not governing for 3 years has left us in a terrible place. They then shunned the health portfolio. Real leadership. Real integrity.
But SF base will love this confrontational MO'N. But people will die I hear you say? This party is comfortable with unnecessary deaths if they can strike a blow against Unionism.

Agreed

I genuinely don't believe that is the case here. I am not a big fan of SF but have seen enough posts from you two to suggest you hate them and that's fair enough but I just feel that, and I rarely feel this about any politician, she is actually being genuine here and not point scoring.

You don't believe that underfunding the NHS and keeping government locked up hasn't hampered the Coronavirus response?
It's debatable as to her reasons for grandstanding now I'll concede that and they may be genuine but whatever about that, this last 8 or more years of firstly mis-rule and lately 3 years of no-rule has left our Health Service the worst of all 4 regions. That cannot be disputed. MO'N and others should take responsibility.

It certainly has but the blame for that lies at the door of George Osbourne.

IIRC around the christmas of the RHI scandal breaking, the SDLP and Alliance at the time were giving the Shinners grief for not pulling the plug on Arlene and the DUP. Then when they did it they're wrong too.

Can't have it both ways unless the memory is selective.

No. No it doesn't. It was the executive who spent / mis spent the money. Don't believe the SF line! There was plenty of money to safely staff the NHS. There's no extra money now and yet they committed to pay parity! The money was skimmed off onto SF and DUP SIF schemes. Back doored into party loyalists pockets.
f**k sake people need to wake up!
Never mind the abuse of the RHI scheme because Westminister Govt. Was paying . I'm sure it is red flagged in Downing St.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: armaghniac on April 03, 2020, 07:17:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 03, 2020, 04:52:34 PM
There's months in this yet. Months.

I don't think there is a complete understanding of how people are catching this at all.

The thing that beat Singapore's efforts was the transmission before people became symptomatic. From SARS experience they deployed temperature testing, but this pox is transmitted before you have a temperature, if you ever get a temperature.  This makes it is very difficult.
the clusters in the nursing homes down south are the main place people are dying without even getting near a hospital or ICU

there must be agency staff, or something transmitting the virus into the various nursing homes?
or maybe its the fact that private nursing homes generally cut corners on most aspects of staffing and protective gear and so there aren't the correct protocols in place

Milltown Row2

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on April 03, 2020, 09:47:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 03, 2020, 07:17:49 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 03, 2020, 04:52:34 PM
There's months in this yet. Months.

I don't think there is a complete understanding of how people are catching this at all.

The thing that beat Singapore's efforts was the transmission before people became symptomatic. From SARS experience they deployed temperature testing, but this pox is transmitted before you have a temperature, if you ever get a temperature.  This makes it is very difficult.
the clusters in the nursing homes down south are the main place people are dying without even getting near a hospital or ICU

there must be agency staff, or something transmitting the virus into the various nursing homes?
or maybe its the fact that private nursing homes generally cut corners on most aspects of staffing and protective gear and so there aren't the correct protocols in place
So you're looking to blame private nursing home owners? WTF

Who the f**k knew a disastrous pandemic like this would ravage countries like this?

They would meet the requirements set by the government so, who's at fault?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

armaghniac

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2020, 09:58:40 PM
So you're looking to blame private nursing home owners? WTF

Who the f**k knew a disastrous pandemic like this would ravage countries like this?

They would meet the requirements set by the government so, who's at fault?

A pandemic was always likely to occur at some stage. Governments, nursing home owners, etc just hoped it wouldn't be on their watch.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Milltown Row2

Quote from: armaghniac on April 03, 2020, 10:10:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2020, 09:58:40 PM
So you're looking to blame private nursing home owners? WTF

Who the f**k knew a disastrous pandemic like this would ravage countries like this?

They would meet the requirements set by the government so, who's at fault?

A pandemic was always likely to occur at some stage. Governments, nursing home owners, etc just hoped it wouldn't be on their watch.

So if it was always going to happen then why were they not prepared? Last one was 1918, the worst thing about this is the experts that f**king know everything, like the plonker who said you should have bigger profit margins and saved all you're pennies !

We all had that mate growing up, who thought he knew everything, not you mate now of course, cause they were dicks!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

tyrone08

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2020, 10:29:58 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 03, 2020, 10:10:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2020, 09:58:40 PM
So you're looking to blame private nursing home owners? WTF

Who the f**k knew a disastrous pandemic like this would ravage countries like this?

They would meet the requirements set by the government so, who's at fault?

A pandemic was always likely to occur at some stage. Governments, nursing home owners, etc just hoped it wouldn't be on their watch.

So if it was always going to happen then why were they not prepared? Last one was 1918, the worst thing about this is the experts that f**king know everything, like the plonker who said you should have bigger profit margins and saved all you're pennies !

We all had that mate growing up, who thought he knew everything, not you mate now of course, cause they were dicks!

Another pandemic was always going to occur and it will again in future. Christ Bill Gates gave a famous speech 3 years ago warning that the next human crisis isn't war but disease. The issue is that in the 21 century a human can within 24 hours be at the other side of the world while having contacted 1000s of people during that time frame.

Every major government in the world knew this but the issue is that to solve the problem countries would have to work together, which history has shown doesn't happen too often. You can barely get politicians in the same country agreeing on a strategy never mind entire countries.

Hopefully the coronavirus can encourage governments across the global to work together in future when a virus breaks out again. As the next outbreak could be humanities last.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: tyrone08 on April 03, 2020, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2020, 10:29:58 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 03, 2020, 10:10:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2020, 09:58:40 PM
So you're looking to blame private nursing home owners? WTF

Who the f**k knew a disastrous pandemic like this would ravage countries like this?

They would meet the requirements set by the government so, who's at fault?

A pandemic was always likely to occur at some stage. Governments, nursing home owners, etc just hoped it wouldn't be on their watch.

So if it was always going to happen then why were they not prepared? Last one was 1918, the worst thing about this is the experts that f**king know everything, like the plonker who said you should have bigger profit margins and saved all you're pennies !

We all had that mate growing up, who thought he knew everything, not you mate now of course, cause they were dicks!

Another pandemic was always going to occur and it will again in future. Christ Bill Gates gave a famous speech 3 years ago warning that the next human crisis isn't war but disease. The issue is that in the 21 century a human can within 24 hours be at the other side of the world while having contacted 1000s of people during that time frame.

Every major government in the world knew this but the issue is that to solve the problem countries would have to work together, which history has shown doesn't happen too often. You can barely get politicians in the same country agreeing on a strategy never mind entire countries.

Hopefully the coronavirus can encourage governments across the global to work together in future when a virus breaks out again. As the next outbreak could be humanities last.

So what's next? So that we can prepare better. The board will set us free
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Lar Naparka

Quote from: tyrone08 on April 03, 2020, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2020, 10:29:58 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 03, 2020, 10:10:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2020, 09:58:40 PM
So you're looking to blame private nursing home owners? WTF

Who the f**k knew a disastrous pandemic like this would ravage countries like this?

They would meet the requirements set by the government so, who's at fault?

A pandemic was always likely to occur at some stage. Governments, nursing home owners, etc just hoped it wouldn't be on their watch.

So if it was always going to happen then why were they not prepared? Last one was 1918, the worst thing about this is the experts that f**king know everything, like the plonker who said you should have bigger profit margins and saved all you're pennies !

We all had that mate growing up, who thought he knew everything, not you mate now of course, cause they were dicks!

Another pandemic was always going to occur and it will again in future. Christ Bill Gates gave a famous speech 3 years ago warning that the next human crisis isn't war but disease. The issue is that in the 21 century a human can within 24 hours be at the other side of the world while having contacted 1000s of people during that time frame.

Every major government in the world knew this but the issue is that to solve the problem countries would have to work together, which history has shown doesn't happen too often. You can barely get politicians in the same country agreeing on a strategy never mind entire countries.

Hopefully the coronavirus can encourage governments across the global to work together in future when a virus breaks out again. As the next outbreak could be humanities last.
Profound stuff indeed. I think you are bang on. Gates didn't get to where he is by being just a pretty face!
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

Rossfan

Hopefully this pandemic might see the end of Anglo American neo liberalism mé féin capitalism and a more Co operative world and society to replace it.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Lar Naparka on April 04, 2020, 12:24:19 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on April 03, 2020, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2020, 10:29:58 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 03, 2020, 10:10:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 03, 2020, 09:58:40 PM
So you're looking to blame private nursing home owners? WTF

Who the f**k knew a disastrous pandemic like this would ravage countries like this?

They would meet the requirements set by the government so, who's at fault?

A pandemic was always likely to occur at some stage. Governments, nursing home owners, etc just hoped it wouldn't be on their watch.

So if it was always going to happen then why were they not prepared? Last one was 1918, the worst thing about this is the experts that f**king know everything, like the plonker who said you should have bigger profit margins and saved all you're pennies !

We all had that mate growing up, who thought he knew everything, not you mate now of course, cause they were dicks!

Another pandemic was always going to occur and it will again in future. Christ Bill Gates gave a famous speech 3 years ago warning that the next human crisis isn't war but disease. The issue is that in the 21 century a human can within 24 hours be at the other side of the world while having contacted 1000s of people during that time frame.

Every major government in the world knew this but the issue is that to solve the problem countries would have to work together, which history has shown doesn't happen too often. You can barely get politicians in the same country agreeing on a strategy never mind entire countries.

Hopefully the coronavirus can encourage governments across the global to work together in future when a virus breaks out again. As the next outbreak could be humanities last.
Profound stuff indeed. I think you are bang on. Gates didn't get to where he is by being just a pretty face!

Hopefully he'll put all his resources into finding a vaccine. He's plenty to use. Then after that can use some of it to stop world poverty.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

bannside

Truer words have never been spoken Rossfan.

Dubh driocht

Quote from: gallsman on March 23, 2020, 08:32:56 AM
Can anyone actually confirm that Joe Brolly was at Cheltenham? If he was, it wouldn't make anything he's saying about the state of things wrong but it would make him an absolute hypocrite.

johnnycool

Quote from: Rossfan on April 04, 2020, 12:29:10 AM
Hopefully this pandemic might see the end of Anglo American neo liberalism mé féin capitalism and a more Co operative world and society to replace it.

I think you might see the opposite as the US will look to be more self sufficient rather than being so reliant on China as can be seen by them gazumping a shipment of PPE meant for Germany.

I'd say most of the big economies may go the same way.

Will it ever end

Tend to agree - numerous countries have already talked about the impact of the global supply chain & reliance on same.

Could be the death of globalisation!

delgany

The cheapest option and the destruction of large scale  manufacturing for the benefit of shareholders and the elite had come back to bite us on the bum !