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at the moment we have the numbers and the guys looking after the reserves are keen to get them games. We are happy to go where-ever to get them.

Sure you could go to Down aswell then.

Endas must have good numbers to field in the Z Squad and South Antrim leagues.

I think those games are played on Tuesday evenings.

Big commitment but benefits outweigh the negatives

Is it that not having the best of both worlds? I seem to remember St Endas complaining about South Antrim and lack of underage games etc so thats why they went to SW Antrim & N Antrim.

Under GPA agreement every county senior  is entitled to €375 boot allowance .that's £23 000 for both squads.
Co. Board have to magic the money from burger and chips  somehow

I was in Kellys Inn a few weeks ago, Tyrone teams were all over the resturant and function eating, I'd 3/4 different teams. No problem getting fed there.

Biggest question and joke of all is how are Gort na Mona, St Pauls and Cushendun junior. Farce.

Couldn't agree more, I was harping on about this a few years ago but was just banging my head against a brick wall. Being from what I perceive to be a 'real' Junior club it is more than frustrating watching Team after Team make the voluntary drop in grade to try and get a crack at an All Ireland. I haven't heard how St Pauls Motion went in regards getting promoted back into Intermediate championship??? or did they not appeal that, happy enough to mix it with the weak clubs with an all Ireland at stake but just not for the league.

That is the grey area for me. What if a club who are perceived to be an intermediate club or senior club drop down a championship as players have retired or other reasons, is that wrong? I get what you're saying and agree but clubs have gotten bad press and accusations thrown at them in the past when other clubs didn't know the story within the club at that time. 

Hope you are right Mac..

On another note, anybody know anywhere nice to eat around Dundalk or Drogheda area?

Wee Joe carrys the room. Div 3 now changed to 17 team league based on St.Pauls proud history. All division 1 teams abstained on the vote bar 1. Very principled stance. What a load of balls. The most competitive league in the county in 2016 made a nonsense off.

I had a feeling something like this would happen as I couldn't see some of the teams in Div 4 wanting to take their medicine and play in the league they were in. This is the reason why we(St Agnes) decided early on to go and play South Antrim this year. I had predicted either a 12 team div 3 meaning a 5 team Div 4 with only a handful of fixtures or the 17 team option (which has happened) and a shit load of tankings for the bottom 4 or 5 teams. For a while it looked like I was wrong and the league looked decent but unfortunately in the end we were proved right and the likes of Loch Mor (and could have been Aggies/Davitts etc) are going to have to play Sarsfields/St Endas/Creegan........... Shaft the minnions to suit a few

There is a discussion on the Football board about miss matches in Div3, this fits into that bracket also.

Shaft some clubs to suit the rest.

Plenty of games to promote hurling in Belfast 👀

A 69 point defeat....wow.

Very difficult to encourage people to play when taking those sort of beatings

Yeah which is exactly why I think they are due credit for keeping the games going in their area.

I remember as a minor in the 80's beating teams like Aghagallon and Glenavy by massive scores. My club have gone backwards since then,  they have progressed. These clubs need all the encouragement they can get.

Agree but how do you encourage them?

I heard St Paul's reason, though I can't believe it to be honest...

Be sorted tomorrow night

I've seen the proposal from St Johns for tonight's meeting. Going back to 10 team leagues for div 1 & 2 with everyone else in div 3.

What about the players who have booked holidays based on the current fixture schedule (8 team leagues). Now we potentially will be adding in an extra 4 games. Going to be some hassle and as usual its the players that will suffer.

Here is the body of the letter from St.Pauls which has more chance of going to a vote imo, wee J will be there to quote chapter and verse no doubt. The annoying thing is that clubs who this in no way affects will have a vote on this.
Just leave it alone. We all are where we are on merit, no special treatment.
If theres any sense in the room all of this will be thrown out and we get on with it as is.






A Chairde,


RE:  REVIEW OF ALL COUNTY DIVISION 3 AND 4 HURLING LEAGUE 2017

Further to my previous correspondence on the above matter, I am writing formally to ask that the request to include St Paul's Senior Hurling Team in the Division 3 All County Hurling League for 2017 be placed on the Clár at the next County Committee meeting on Monday 13 March 2017.

As stated previously, all we are looking for is fair and equal treatment. 

On the basis of the above, St Paul's GAC would propose either of the following solutions:

(a)   That a decision is made to amalgamate the Division 3 and Division 4 Hurling Leagues for 2017 in a one round 17 team league (St Paul's GAC Preferred Option)

(b)   That a decision is made to include both Lamh Dhearg and St Paul's Senior Hurling Teams in the Division 3 Hurling League for 2017 in a one round 11 team League with a half way split.

I am aware that a number of other clubs within the County would be very supportive of St Paul's position as it would allow all teams to play at an appropriate level and ensure that the many young talented players in all teams are given the opportunity to develop and improve (e.g. Stephen Rooney, Donal Nugent, Colm McLarnon, Patrick Doyle etc).

I appreciate that CCC is keen to finalise fixtures for club secretaries, but I believe that they have the time to act after County Committee make their decision.

I look forward to the Club getting the opportunity to present its position on the matter on Monday evening.


Is Mise Le Meas


Secretary                         

Load of balls at this stage, tough luck, if your in Division 2 this year and you want to be in it next year then you have to win enough games.... its as simple as that. for too many years this has been going on and to be honest it is the main reason why the leagues become a shambles. people talk about wanting a more meaningful league and even using league positions as championship seeding's etc. and these are all good points but until we stop restructuring the leagues every year then its all pointless because until promotion and relegation mean such then what's the point?

I agree, nothing worse than clubs going greeting to the county board when they aren't good enough.

Yeah just seeing that there now PaddyJohn - as you say Sarsfields the surprise though Pearses were one other team that I thought might be pushing upward though I was thinking more for 3rd spot than actually getting in front of either Sarsfields or Glenravel.  Ridiculous score in the Glenravel game - shows the gulf in the top and bottom of that league - Glenravel have scored 102 pts in 2 games and look on course already to do what Ardoyne did last year in Div 3 - they really need to get themselves established in Div 2 as playing against teams like that will do them no good whatsoever and that is not slight on Mitchells who I think deserve a lot of credit for keeping it going in tough circumstances.

Clubs like Mitchels deserve huge credit, they got a new pitch etc in Poleglass didn't they?

Is this the same kind of arrangement as Ardoyne's new 'Home' pitch?

Was there not 3 or 4 new pitches built in Belfast? Poleglass, Ozone, Ardoyne and Woodlands?

Surely this is only a good thing.

Yeah just seeing that there now PaddyJohn - as you say Sarsfields the surprise though Pearses were one other team that I thought might be pushing upward though I was thinking more for 3rd spot than actually getting in front of either Sarsfields or Glenravel.  Ridiculous score in the Glenravel game - shows the gulf in the top and bottom of that league - Glenravel have scored 102 pts in 2 games and look on course already to do what Ardoyne did last year in Div 3 - they really need to get themselves established in Div 2 as playing against teams like that will do them no good whatsoever and that is not slight on Mitchells who I think deserve a lot of credit for keeping it going in tough circumstances.

Clubs like Mitchels deserve huge credit, they got a new pitch etc in Poleglass didn't they?

Bit of a shock in div3 football with Sarsfields losing V Pearses. Glenravel racked up some score. O'Dees drawing with Ballycastle also a shock.

DR hit the nail on the head, it's a load of balls. Be serious questions asked now about the county committee. But please don't be negative, instead let's be constructive.

On the basis that these 2 clubs got special treatment. Now we've another 2 clubs looking special treatment.

Ballix! What a shambles.

1. Cushendun to be include in Div. 3 Hurling for 2017 (and not div 4 following their relegation in 2016)

2. Lamh Dhearg also to be included in Div. 3 Hurling for 2017. (even though they finished 2nd in 2016 in a league that was to have one team promoted)

County Committee agreed to include both clubs in the 2017 Div. 3 Hurling
League. That's how.

On what basis?