The Many Faces of US Politics...

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J70

Quote from: whitey on July 13, 2017, 02:44:24 AM
Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 01:02:35 AM
Quote from: whitey on July 13, 2017, 12:55:48 AM
Quote from: J70 on July 12, 2017, 10:22:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 12, 2017, 05:07:56 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 11, 2017, 08:37:07 PM


When the Clinton campaigns connection to this set up is revealed remember where you heard it first

It's a Clinton set-up?

Are conservatives EVER responsible for anything?? ;D

And let's say, for the sake of amusement, that it WAS a set-up?

How does that excuse Trump Jr, Manafort's and Kushner's eager rush to meet with what they thought was a Russian government operative with damaging dirt on Clinton?

Oh it won't excuse anything....they, especially Manafort, should have run a mile and reported it immediately to the FBI.

On the other hand, if what I am saying is true.....it's going to look very bad for the Democrats

Out of (morbid) curiosity, what indication do you have that what you say is even remotely possibly true?

There is a possibility (albeit low) that it was a DNC dirty trick.....I subscribe to a
lot of blogs and Facebook feeds and saw it first yesterday. Over the past day it has been repeated
by some more mainstream and reliable commentators which is often a sign that there may be something behind it. 

If I told you a year ago that the DNC was sending rabble rousers to cause trouble at Trump
rallies you would have had a similar level of skepticism....

So baseless speculation on social media that has been picked up by mainstream media people with an agenda then?

J70

Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 07:21:01 AM
Donny Trump jnr deserves to be investigated for his so called 'treason' when he met with a Russian govt official prior to his da getting the big job.

Clinton deserves the same treatment for Benghazi, the email scandals, the selling of uranium to the Russians and getting 145 million in pay for play kickbacks, the rigged election that cost Bernie Saunders a fair crack at taking her down and much much more.

How many congressional investigations into Benghazi are enough stew?

Or do you want them to keep going until they get the result you and the insane element of the right wing want? Same with the emails??

Why is an investigation of the "treatment" of Bernie warranted? What laws/regs are in play?

And outside of the paranoid conspiracy theorizing world of the right wing, what is controversial or extraordinary about the other stuff?

You forgot Vince Foster by the way! ;)

whitey

Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: whitey on July 13, 2017, 02:44:24 AM
Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 01:02:35 AM
Quote from: whitey on July 13, 2017, 12:55:48 AM
Quote from: J70 on July 12, 2017, 10:22:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 12, 2017, 05:07:56 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 11, 2017, 08:37:07 PM


When the Clinton campaigns connection to this set up is revealed remember where you heard it first

It's a Clinton set-up?

Are conservatives EVER responsible for anything?? ;D

And let's say, for the sake of amusement, that it WAS a set-up?

How does that excuse Trump Jr, Manafort's and Kushner's eager rush to meet with what they thought was a Russian government operative with damaging dirt on Clinton?

Oh it won't excuse anything....they, especially Manafort, should have run a mile and reported it immediately to the FBI.

On the other hand, if what I am saying is true.....it's going to look very bad for the Democrats

Out of (morbid) curiosity, what indication do you have that what you say is even remotely possibly true?

There is a possibility (albeit low) that it was a DNC dirty trick.....I subscribe to a
lot of blogs and Facebook feeds and saw it first yesterday. Over the past day it has been repeated
by some more mainstream and reliable commentators which is often a sign that there may be something behind it. 

If I told you a year ago that the DNC was sending rabble rousers to cause trouble at Trump
rallies you would have had a similar level of skepticism....

So baseless speculation on social media that has been picked up by mainstream media people with an agenda then?

As I've said a million times, believe whatever you want, but don't be surprised if there's more to this than meets the eye

J70

Quote from: whitey on July 13, 2017, 10:22:09 AM
Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: whitey on July 13, 2017, 02:44:24 AM
Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 01:02:35 AM
Quote from: whitey on July 13, 2017, 12:55:48 AM
Quote from: J70 on July 12, 2017, 10:22:23 PM
Quote from: whitey on July 12, 2017, 05:07:56 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on July 11, 2017, 08:37:07 PM


When the Clinton campaigns connection to this set up is revealed remember where you heard it first

It's a Clinton set-up?

Are conservatives EVER responsible for anything?? ;D

And let's say, for the sake of amusement, that it WAS a set-up?

How does that excuse Trump Jr, Manafort's and Kushner's eager rush to meet with what they thought was a Russian government operative with damaging dirt on Clinton?

Oh it won't excuse anything....they, especially Manafort, should have run a mile and reported it immediately to the FBI.

On the other hand, if what I am saying is true.....it's going to look very bad for the Democrats

Out of (morbid) curiosity, what indication do you have that what you say is even remotely possibly true?

There is a possibility (albeit low) that it was a DNC dirty trick.....I subscribe to a
lot of blogs and Facebook feeds and saw it first yesterday. Over the past day it has been repeated
by some more mainstream and reliable commentators which is often a sign that there may be something behind it. 

If I told you a year ago that the DNC was sending rabble rousers to cause trouble at Trump
rallies you would have had a similar level of skepticism....

So baseless speculation on social media that has been picked up by mainstream media people with an agenda then?

As I've said a million times, believe whatever you want, but don't be surprised if there's more to this than meets the eye

Come on, you're just spreading baseless conspiracy theories to deflect!

Maybe it was O'Keefe who "set it up"! Shame that they all took the bait! ;D

whitey

O Keefe shut down Acorn, made Planned Parenthood change their practices and caused several top level Democratic consultants to get fired....mock him at your peril

J70

Quote from: whitey on July 13, 2017, 11:16:50 AM
O Keefe shut down Acorn, made Planned Parenthood change their practices and caused several top level Democratic consultants to get fired....mock him at your peril

Why, he is coming for ME next??   ;D

Just because the GOP eat up all his bullshit for political reasons and the weak kneed Dems didn't know what they were dealing with at the time of Acorn and so meekly acquiesced in the face of the "outrage", doesn't make him legitimate or honest.

Besides, I wasn't mocking O'Keefe, per se, in that comment.

stew

Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 09:18:43 AM
Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 07:21:01 AM
Donny Trump jnr deserves to be investigated for his so called 'treason' when he met with a Russian govt official prior to his da getting the big job.

Clinton deserves the same treatment for Benghazi, the email scandals, the selling of uranium to the Russians and getting 145 million in pay for play kickbacks, the rigged election that cost Bernie Saunders a fair crack at taking her down and much much more.

How many congressional investigations into Benghazi are enough stew?

Or do you want them to keep going until they get the result you and the insane element of the right wing want? Same with the emails??

Why is an investigation of the "treatment" of Bernie warranted? What laws/regs are in play?

And outside of the paranoid conspiracy theorizing world of the right wing, what is controversial or extraordinary about the other stuff?

You forgot Vince Foster by the way! ;)

I forgot nothing, it would take a year to post every shady deal/decision Clinton was involved in, she is bullet proof.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

J70

Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 09:18:43 AM
Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 07:21:01 AM
Donny Trump jnr deserves to be investigated for his so called 'treason' when he met with a Russian govt official prior to his da getting the big job.

Clinton deserves the same treatment for Benghazi, the email scandals, the selling of uranium to the Russians and getting 145 million in pay for play kickbacks, the rigged election that cost Bernie Saunders a fair crack at taking her down and much much more.

How many congressional investigations into Benghazi are enough stew?

Or do you want them to keep going until they get the result you and the insane element of the right wing want? Same with the emails??

Why is an investigation of the "treatment" of Bernie warranted? What laws/regs are in play?

And outside of the paranoid conspiracy theorizing world of the right wing, what is controversial or extraordinary about the other stuff?

You forgot Vince Foster by the way! ;)

I forgot nothing, it would take a year to post every shady deal/decision Clinton was involved in, she is bullet proof.

Yes, the right wing whack jobs are prolific and creative in their conspiracy theorizing, that's for sure!  ;D

stew

Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 09:18:43 AM
Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 07:21:01 AM
Donny Trump jnr deserves to be investigated for his so called 'treason' when he met with a Russian govt official prior to his da getting the big job.

Clinton deserves the same treatment for Benghazi, the email scandals, the selling of uranium to the Russians and getting 145 million in pay for play kickbacks, the rigged election that cost Bernie Saunders a fair crack at taking her down and much much more.

How many congressional investigations into Benghazi are enough stew?

Or do you want them to keep going until they get the result you and the insane element of the right wing want? Same with the emails??

Why is an investigation of the "treatment" of Bernie warranted? What laws/regs are in play?

And outside of the paranoid conspiracy theorizing world of the right wing, what is controversial or extraordinary about the other stuff?

You forgot Vince Foster by the way! ;)

I forgot nothing, it would take a year to post every shady deal/decision Clinton was involved in, she is bullet proof.

Yes, the right wing whack jobs are prolific and creative in their conspiracy theorizing, that's for sure!  ;D

And the left wing nuts are screaming about treason ffs, donnie takes a meeting with a russian and suddenly it is an act of treason, the left in America is a mess, is devoid of leadership and morally bankrupt.

Not one word on here about a mother of three being gunned down performing her duty as one of NYC's finest, the Mayor was spot on when he asked were the celebrities are and why they are not protesting this cowardly attack.

Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

seafoid

The US right has its own version of reality.
Nobody else in the world believes climate change is a myth, for example.
Or that trump is competent.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

stew

Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 07:26:27 PM
The US right has its own version of reality.
Nobody else in the world believes climate change is a myth, for example.
Or that trump is competent.

Really Dr Freud?

Climate change is very real and the American people chose an incompetent over a serial liar and warmonger you were pulling for  ) 

By
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

J70

Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 06:07:39 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 09:18:43 AM
Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 07:21:01 AM
Donny Trump jnr deserves to be investigated for his so called 'treason' when he met with a Russian govt official prior to his da getting the big job.

Clinton deserves the same treatment for Benghazi, the email scandals, the selling of uranium to the Russians and getting 145 million in pay for play kickbacks, the rigged election that cost Bernie Saunders a fair crack at taking her down and much much more.

How many congressional investigations into Benghazi are enough stew?

Or do you want them to keep going until they get the result you and the insane element of the right wing want? Same with the emails??

Why is an investigation of the "treatment" of Bernie warranted? What laws/regs are in play?

And outside of the paranoid conspiracy theorizing world of the right wing, what is controversial or extraordinary about the other stuff?

You forgot Vince Foster by the way! ;)

I forgot nothing, it would take a year to post every shady deal/decision Clinton was involved in, she is bullet proof.

Yes, the right wing whack jobs are prolific and creative in their conspiracy theorizing, that's for sure!  ;D

And the left wing nuts are screaming about treason ffs, donnie takes a meeting with a russian and suddenly it is an act of treason, the left in America is a mess, is devoid of leadership and morally bankrupt.

Not one word on here about a mother of three being gunned down performing her duty as one of NYC's finest, the Mayor was spot on when he asked were the celebrities are and why they are not protesting this cowardly attack.

"Donnie meets with a Russian..."! Sure is that all that was going on stew! Casual, every day meeting with what he thought was an agent of a hostile foreign government with dirty secrets to sell! ;D

The treason rhetoric may be overblown and (for now) legally inaccurate, but any attempt to equate such hype with the paranoid delusion the gullible right specializes in is just ludicrous and dishonest.

As for that poor NYPD officer, there was nothing stopping yourself posting on it, was there?

I guess no one else really saw it as a political issue.

seafoid

Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 07:53:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 13, 2017, 07:26:27 PM
The US right has its own version of reality.
Nobody else in the world believes climate change is a myth, for example.
Or that trump is competent.

Really Dr Freud?

Climate change is very real and the American people chose an incompetent over a serial liar and warmonger you were pulling for  ) 

By
I thought the 2 of them were useless
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

stew

Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 08:37:43 PM
Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 06:07:39 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 13, 2017, 09:18:43 AM
Quote from: stew on July 13, 2017, 07:21:01 AM
Donny Trump jnr deserves to be investigated for his so called 'treason' when he met with a Russian govt official prior to his da getting the big job.

Clinton deserves the same treatment for Benghazi, the email scandals, the selling of uranium to the Russians and getting 145 million in pay for play kickbacks, the rigged election that cost Bernie Saunders a fair crack at taking her down and much much more.

How many congressional investigations into Benghazi are enough stew?

Or do you want them to keep going until they get the result you and the insane element of the right wing want? Same with the emails??

Why is an investigation of the "treatment" of Bernie warranted? What laws/regs are in play?

And outside of the paranoid conspiracy theorizing world of the right wing, what is controversial or extraordinary about the other stuff?

You forgot Vince Foster by the way! ;)

I forgot nothing, it would take a year to post every shady deal/decision Clinton was involved in, she is bullet proof.

Yes, the right wing whack jobs are prolific and creative in their conspiracy theorizing, that's for sure!  ;D

And the left wing nuts are screaming about treason ffs, donnie takes a meeting with a russian and suddenly it is an act of treason, the left in America is a mess, is devoid of leadership and morally bankrupt.

Not one word on here about a mother of three being gunned down performing her duty as one of NYC's finest, the Mayor was spot on when he asked were the celebrities are and why they are not protesting this cowardly attack.

"Donnie meets with a Russian..."! Sure is that all that was going on stew! Casual, every day meeting with what he thought was an agent of a hostile foreign government with dirty secrets to sell! ;D

The treason rhetoric may be overblown and (for now) legally inaccurate, but any attempt to equate such hype with the paranoid delusion the gullible right specializes in is just ludicrous and dishonest.

As for that poor NYPD officer, there was nothing stopping yourself posting on it, was there?

I guess no one else really saw it as a political issue.

There is no point posting about it on here, it would  have ended up her own fault, its a bit.like tge documentary making of a murderer, you all watched it, became experts overnight and after the furor died down you collectively did not give a shit anymore.

Treason is never going to stick here and neither should it, it shoes how low the left has gotten, Clinton should gave been tried for treason as should Cheney, nit Donny junior.






Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

J70

Stew, how in the name of Jesus could some deranged lowlife marching up to the door of a police truck and, without any warning, shooting that poor woman in the head, ever be deemed her own fault?

You're projecting what you want us to be, not what we are.

As for Trump and collusion, we will see how it ends up. For all the cries of fake news and "nothing to see here!", they're sure a "forgetful" bunch when it comes to meetings with Russians and have now been caught with their trousers down.

I don't know what Clinton or Cheney did that could lead to treason charges. You will have to elaborate.