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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2017, 11:55:20 PM »
Would an election be held on the basis of the 2016 constituencies or have the revisions of the Electoral Commission come into play?


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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2017, 12:01:36 AM »
Would an election be held on the basis of the 2016 constituencies or have the revisions of the Electoral Commission come into play?

I heard from an FG organiser that he thinks it would still be the old constituencies. The commission just makes a report and offers recommendations, they need to be ratified to actually come into effect.

An election like that would play havoc with the tickets a lot of parties were planning to run.
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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #48 on: November 25, 2017, 02:04:41 PM »
The old phrase "In the national interest" must apply. Frances has had her head in the trough long enough now to know how it works and what she needs to do.
And anyone who believes Mary Lou McDonald gives two damms about Sergeant McCabe should consider her attitude to the men who murdered his namesake Gerry McCabe
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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #49 on: November 25, 2017, 03:05:51 PM »
That was SFBML  ( Sinn Féin before Mary Lou) a totally different bashte altogether  ::)
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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #50 on: November 25, 2017, 03:36:10 PM »
That was SFBML  ( Sinn Féin before Mary Lou) a totally different bashte altogether  ::)

I loved how Pearse Doherty dispensed with even the flimsiest notion that the SF leadership race was going to be run democratically and said Mary Lou would lead the party. I don’t think they realise how much of a tinpot dictatorship that makes them look like. 35 years of Gerry and not a single person to oppose her? Yikes.

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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #51 on: November 25, 2017, 06:21:22 PM »
That was SFBML  ( Sinn Féin before Mary Lou) a totally different bashte altogether  ::)

I loved how Pearse Doherty dispensed with even the flimsiest notion that the SF leadership race was going to be run democratically and said Mary Lou would lead the party. I don’t think they realise how much of a tinpot dictatorship that makes them look like. 35 years of Gerry and not a single person to oppose her? Yikes.

Ferriter summed up Adams very well in The Irish Times today. Adams has joined the revisionists that he railed against for years. Pity it took him so long to do so. A good few people would still be alive
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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #52 on: November 25, 2017, 08:31:11 PM »
Would an election be held on the basis of the 2016 constituencies or have the revisions of the Electoral Commission come into play?
The new proposals haven't been adopted yet so it will be the same as 2016.
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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #53 on: November 26, 2017, 06:14:16 AM »
Sinn Féin have eaten into the working class vote of FF.
FF is like Dunnes Stores. SF is like Aldi plus Lidl.

The country is polarised.


Farmers with more than 100 acres, people with v neck jumpers, golf club members, professionals, club Rossie  types- FG
People who envy golf club members - FF
Working class persons, people who actually get up early,  people who want to nationalise golf clubs -SF
Lower grade civil servants who don't play golf but know how to organise-  Labour
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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #54 on: November 26, 2017, 06:20:52 AM »
The Torygraph says the Fitzgerald thing might weaken Ireland in Brexit discussions
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/25/irish-political-crisis-pms-political-firestorm-could-weaken/

It is subscription but the idea is straightforward.
The best chance in over 50 years to weaken Unionism. And FF would do this . FFS.
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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #55 on: November 26, 2017, 02:11:14 PM »
The Torygraph says the Fitzgerald thing might weaken Ireland in Brexit discussions
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/25/irish-political-crisis-pms-political-firestorm-could-weaken/

It is subscription but the idea is straightforward.
The best chance in over 50 years to weaken Unionism. And FF would do this . FFS.

Brexit talks will stumble on for far, far longer than an election would take. There really isn’t much difference between an election now or in six months.

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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #56 on: November 26, 2017, 02:43:24 PM »
The Torygraph says the Fitzgerald thing might weaken Ireland in Brexit discussions
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/25/irish-political-crisis-pms-political-firestorm-could-weaken/

It is subscription but the idea is straightforward.
The best chance in over 50 years to weaken Unionism. And FF would do this . FFS.

Brexit talks will stumble on for far, far longer than an election would take. There really isn’t much difference between an election now or in six months.
The UK has to sort out the border before trade talks
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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #57 on: November 26, 2017, 03:08:48 PM »
The Torygraph says the Fitzgerald thing might weaken Ireland in Brexit discussions
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/25/irish-political-crisis-pms-political-firestorm-could-weaken/

It is subscription but the idea is straightforward.
The best chance in over 50 years to weaken Unionism. And FF would do this . FFS.

Brexit talks will stumble on for far, far longer than an election would take. There really isn’t much difference between an election now or in six months.

This phase of Brexit talks, scheduled to end in December, is the point of maximum Irish influence and the key moment with regards to a border/no border in the event of the UK leaving the common market.

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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #58 on: November 26, 2017, 03:13:14 PM »
The Torygraph says the Fitzgerald thing might weaken Ireland in Brexit discussions
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/25/irish-political-crisis-pms-political-firestorm-could-weaken/

It is subscription but the idea is straightforward.
The best chance in over 50 years to weaken Unionism. And FF would do this . FFS.

Brexit talks will stumble on for far, far longer than an election would take. There really isn’t much difference between an election now or in six months.

This phase of Brexit talks, scheduled to end in December, is the point of maximum Irish influence and the key moment with regards to a border/no border in the event of the UK leaving the common market.

There’s probably going to be a border of some form whether we stick election posters up or not next month. The idea that this materially effects those discussions is column inch filler and little else. This was always a fragile arrangement.
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Re: Election for turkeys ? Will FG go for it?
« Reply #59 on: November 26, 2017, 03:25:31 PM »
The Torygraph says the Fitzgerald thing might weaken Ireland in Brexit discussions
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/25/irish-political-crisis-pms-political-firestorm-could-weaken/

It is subscription but the idea is straightforward.
The best chance in over 50 years to weaken Unionism. And FF would do this . FFS.

Brexit talks will stumble on for far, far longer than an election would take. There really isn’t much difference between an election now or in six months.

This phase of Brexit talks, scheduled to end in December, is the point of maximum Irish influence and the key moment with regards to a border/no border in the event of the UK leaving the common market.

There’s probably going to be a border of some form whether we stick election posters up or not next month. The idea that this materially effects those discussions is column inch filler and little else. This was always a fragile arrangement.
That''s like saying it doesn't matter if f the full back line have their eye on the ball when it arrives in from midfield. Politics is about timing
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