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Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« Reply #4305 on: November 24, 2017, 07:52:32 AM »
Will we have a General Election before Christmas or will An Tánaiste fall on her sword "in the Interest of the Country " as the Blueshirts and the Builders/Auctioneers dig in?
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« Reply #4306 on: November 24, 2017, 12:17:59 PM »
Will we have a General Election before Christmas or will An Tánaiste fall on her sword "in the Interest of the Country " as the Blueshirts and the Builders/Auctioneers dig in?

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« Reply #4307 on: November 25, 2017, 12:40:13 AM »
There was a motion going before the floor last weekend that I was keeping an eye on.
It was calling on the party to stop meeting with Netanyahu's Likud party in Ireland and to keep
the word on supporting the BDS campaign.

It was a hard hitting motion, and was passionately defended by Reada Cronin from Maynooth.
However, an amendment was added which would allow them to continue meeting them as long as they
were talking about peace........ This was the leadership position and Martina Anderson and Pat Sheehan
spoke in defence of it, along with another delegate who added the amendment.

It was a tight vote and the amendment passed by 12 votes in the end.

Below is the original motion with the amendment in capitals. 

Motion 74
This Ard Fheis agrees that, in view of Sinn Féin's stated commitment to the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Campaign, Sinn Féin will have no more meetings or dealings with the right-wing party Likud, or any Israeli political parties that gives succour or support, either covertly or overtly, to the increased expansion of illegal Israeli settlements on Palestinian lands in violation of international law. FOR ANY REASON OTHER THAN THE GENUINE ADVANCEMENT OF THE CAUSE OF SEEKING A JUST SETTLEMENT TO THE CONFLICT OR OTHERWISE REQUESTED TO DO SO BY PALESTINIAN POLITICAL LEADERS

As you can see they have given themselves permission to entertain any Israeli delegation right up to Netanyahu himself
as long as they are talking peace. Given that the Israelis are professional peace talkers as they expand their occupation, you can be
assured that they will continue to milk this new found relationship for nothing other than PR purposes. It's how they operate.

Apart from those who followed party lines and voted for an excuse to meet any rep from Israel, there is not only opposition to
these meetings, but outrage. How on the one hand can they ask people to boycott certain products at their local supermarket in
protest at Israeli crimes, while at the same time entertain those who are responsible for the crimes? And what is the point of holding
a solidarity rally on a Sunday evening for Palestine, and then stay silent as Likud are in for tea and biscuits on Tuesday?

There is only one winner in all of this, and it sure isn't the Palestinians......

next stop, September 10, for number 4......

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« Reply #4308 on: November 25, 2017, 06:24:52 PM »
There was a motion going before the floor last weekend that I was keeping an eye on.
It was calling on the party to stop meeting with Netanyahu's Likud party in Ireland and to keep
the word on supporting the BDS campaign.

It was a hard hitting motion, and was passionately defended by Reada Cronin from Maynooth.
However, an amendment was added which would allow them to continue meeting them as long as they
were talking about peace........ This was the leadership position and Martina Anderson and Pat Sheehan
spoke in defence of it, along with another delegate who added the amendment.

It was a tight vote and the amendment passed by 12 votes in the end.

Below is the original motion with the amendment in capitals. 

Motion 74
This Ard Fheis agrees that, in view of Sinn Féin's stated commitment to the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) Campaign, Sinn Féin will have no more meetings or dealings with the right-wing party Likud, or any Israeli political parties that gives succour or support, either covertly or overtly, to the increased expansion of illegal Israeli settlements on Palestinian lands in violation of international law. FOR ANY REASON OTHER THAN THE GENUINE ADVANCEMENT OF THE CAUSE OF SEEKING A JUST SETTLEMENT TO THE CONFLICT OR OTHERWISE REQUESTED TO DO SO BY PALESTINIAN POLITICAL LEADERS

As you can see they have given themselves permission to entertain any Israeli delegation right up to Netanyahu himself
as long as they are talking peace. Given that the Israelis are professional peace talkers as they expand their occupation, you can be
assured that they will continue to milk this new found relationship for nothing other than PR purposes. It's how they operate.

Apart from those who followed party lines and voted for an excuse to meet any rep from Israel, there is not only opposition to
these meetings, but outrage. How on the one hand can they ask people to boycott certain products at their local supermarket in
protest at Israeli crimes, while at the same time entertain those who are responsible for the crimes? And what is the point of holding
a solidarity rally on a Sunday evening for Palestine, and then stay silent as Likud are in for tea and biscuits on Tuesday?

There is only one winner in all of this, and it sure isn't the Palestinians......

The Palestinians have had plenty opportunities to become winners but they have allowed themselves to be manipulated by thei Arab brothers who's interests are well away from the Palestinian interests
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« Reply #4309 on: November 25, 2017, 06:41:46 PM »
Your on the wind up

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« Reply #4310 on: November 28, 2017, 11:03:49 AM »
It appears to me that Gerry retired as the stars are really beginning to line up for reunification.

Gerry knows he is a bogeyman to practically everyone in politics north and south of the river and that has served a fantastic purpose getting us to where we are now, the leadership he showed along with Martin in getting the Republican movement this far marks them out as some of the greatest politicians of their time on a global scale. They brought an Empire to its knees, they brought a sectarian ideology to the discussion table, and they took the gun out of Irish politics.

Now is the time for the younger comrades to bring it home, it might take a few years yet but the wheels are in motion, too many macro political game changers are in play and I feel the point of no return is fast approaching for the abortion statelet that was gerrymandered almost a century ago. Brexit, Tory greed, British bafflement with the DUP, British disloyalty to the abortion statelet (watch this space), Unionist brain drain, SF surge in the polls in the north, etc.

Fair play to Gerry he has removed himself from frontline politics so as to remove another obstacle to unity, the over Gerry's dead body club north and south of the river. He will continue to be a great guiding light for Republicans going forward and no doubt influence many future strategies, but he led it from the front and played a blinder. No better man.

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« Reply #4311 on: November 28, 2017, 02:02:54 PM »
Well said Gerry😆😆
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« Reply #4312 on: November 28, 2017, 03:40:25 PM »
Rossfan if history has taught us anything the Irish will bollcoks it all up with the finish line in sight

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« Reply #4313 on: November 28, 2017, 03:48:58 PM »
Rossfan if history has taught us anything the Irish will bollcoks it all up with the finish line in sight

If you think unification is in sight you need to get your eyesight checked.

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« Reply #4314 on: November 28, 2017, 04:22:08 PM »
It appears to me that Gerry retired as the stars are really beginning to line up for reunification.

Gerry knows he is a bogeyman to practically everyone in politics north and south of the river and that has served a fantastic purpose getting us to where we are now, the leadership he showed along with Martin in getting the Republican movement this far marks them out as some of the greatest politicians of their time on a global scale. They brought an Empire to its knees, they brought a sectarian ideology to the discussion table, and they took the gun out of Irish politics.

Now is the time for the younger comrades to bring it home, it might take a few years yet but the wheels are in motion, too many macro political game changers are in play and I feel the point of no return is fast approaching for the abortion statelet that was gerrymandered almost a century ago. Brexit, Tory greed, British bafflement with the DUP, British disloyalty to the abortion statelet (watch this space), Unionist brain drain, SF surge in the polls in the north, etc.

Fair play to Gerry he has removed himself from frontline politics so as to remove another obstacle to unity, the over Gerry's dead body club north and south of the river. He will continue to be a great guiding light for Republicans going forward and no doubt influence many future strategies, but he led it from the front and played a blinder. No better man.

Says the man who thinks  John O Dowd is from Belfast !!

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« Reply #4315 on: November 30, 2017, 05:39:29 PM »
One of them has gone away from the party.
Sinn Féin Senator quits party after 'unacceptable behaviour' against him
https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1130/924037-senator/
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« Reply #4316 on: November 30, 2017, 06:42:40 PM »
Did HQ decide he wasn't getting the Nomination?
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« Reply #4317 on: November 30, 2017, 07:09:07 PM »
Did HQ decide he wasn't getting the Nomination?

I presume you mean army council?
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« Reply #4318 on: November 30, 2017, 07:52:18 PM »
To paraphrase the old joke

"Gerry, is it true that members of Sinn Fein who don't tow the party line are being bullied?"

"Ní Ceapaim."

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« Reply #4319 on: November 30, 2017, 08:50:38 PM »
Did HQ decide he wasn't getting the Nomination?
THe namesake niece of the Farrell woman shot in Gibraltar was going up against him, no doubt the Belfast backroom wanted her to get it.