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All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others

Look I have no desire to get into a discussion with you about this, or indeed any topic for that matter

Sorry about your loss Art. Your  late father was clearly a great person and a true Gael. RIP

1. Tell that to the family who buried the 53 year old alcoholic last week
2. Read the thread again
3 if the circumstances were the same I'd have every sympathy for a South American mule

Which is better from a financial perspective - finishing 2nd in the group stage then getting beat in the first knockout  match or finishing third and getting a good run in the Europa League?

I must admit I was shocked at the lack of compassion shown by many here at the plight of the Peru 2. I'm particularly surprised by the attitude of a number of posters who have indicated that they have young daughters themselves.

Its fair enough to say, from the pictures of Michaella McCollum that were taken in Ibiza, that she wasn't spending her time there trying to set up  a new branch of the Legion of Mary, but neither does she appear to display the type of previous 'form' that would gain her admission to the McCarthy - Dundon Gang. She has, for whatever reason, found herself in a nightmare position in a foreign country, looking as guilty as a puppy beside a pile of poo, and facing the prospect of a long stretch in chokey. OK, regardless of the circumstances, she found herself part of a chain which brings misery and death to many people, but I was at a funeral on Saturday of a 53 year old guy who died of alcoholism and it could equally be argued that those who supplied him with drink heaped as much misery on him and his family as those involved in the lower echelons of the cocaine trade. The only differences are that those supplying him with drink weren't doing so under the alleged threat of death etc, as the Peru  2 suggest they were and drink is legal and coke is not, but it could be argued that it's the end result in many respects that counts.

Many of you have indicated that you wouldn't expect your daughters, with their upbringing, to get involved in something like this. Bottom line is that none of us have a notion how our children will turn out. But as a parent of older children I can tell you this, if you're solely relying on your good parenting to help keep your kids on the straight and narrow you're all seriously deluded.  I'm sure the parents of 'That Slane Girl' thought the same when their young daughter headed off to the M&M gig. There are so many other influences which are totally outside our control, which have the potential to have a much bigger impact on our kids, as they develop, than parental guidance.  The influence of clever and manipulative bullies, for instance, who can prey on less street wise kids when they move from primary school ( my Wife who is a teacher has numerous examples of this happening) and the nightmare scenario of the boyfriend from hell are just 2 things that can leave parents tearing their hair out and wondering what to do. And I can assure you that when either of these things happen parental advice is about number 20 in the list of influences that can change the position for the better and number 1 in the list of things that can exacerbate it

Its no skin off my nose if those  girls get 2 months, 2 years or 20 years but I'm not going to gloat over their tragic situation, because, as a parent who has tried to bring up his kids well, and thank God things have gone well so far, I don't know what's round the corner for me or my family. Finally I really don't give 2 shites whether you or anyone else here agrees with me or not. And finally finally our Minors won on Monday night

I've deleted the post life's too short for this stuff. Our minors have a championship match tonight that's more important to me at the moment

I don't know the full background so I won't comment. Are you in favour of capital punishment by any chance? What bout bringing back the birch

I just think the photo is sick. As a parent of 2 teenagers I also have difficulty with the callous attitude many here are adopting as regards the Peru 2. None of us knows what predicaments or pickles our kids may get themselves into when they're that age and remember they are only just 20 ffs

Folks some of you are sailing very close to the wind as regards Rule 3

Plenty of people about but not a pile of trad music sessions in pubs. A lot of pubs appear to have booked bands which displays lack of knowledge of how a Fleadh works. Also a lot of them have put the price of drink up which is not the welcome we were all promised when Derry won the bid to hold the Fleadh last year

Despite the reservations I expressed previously I'm off today to Doire for the unique experience of a the first ever All Ireland Fleadh in the occupied 6. Tullamore and Cavan brought it to a new level over the past 6 years and hopefully Doire can continue the trend.

Joe had no problems celebrating in 2006 when Derry beat Tyrone in Omagh. If you watch the game you will see some of the most cynical tackles and play of the previous 15 years. The Tyrone players were simply not allowed to play, and Sean Cavanagh was pulled to the ground at every sign of danger.

Joe was dancing in the stands afterwards and had no problems with the Derry style of play, which at the end of the day won them the game.

Maybe Joe should go back and have a look at that game and his comments about it afterwards before he launches another personal attack.

An excellent example of Joe's ridiculous hypocrisy. That game was equal if not worse than any 'tactics' Tyrone employ. We all know Joe fires out controversial analysis and to stir the pot and raise his profile and I would normally take it with a large pinch of salt. The personal digs/insults of Sean and Mickey go way beyond the pale and, in actual fact, would make me think far less of the man Joe Brolly rather than SC.

He had way too much to drink that night too if memory serves me right.

Your constant sniping about Brollys "drinking" from behind an anonymous username is cowardly and pathetic.

The irony is that he's been known to post crap on this site when he's tanked up. Mind you he comes into his own when sober as his previous post about Willie Fraser which was deleted by the mods goes to prove

Joe Brolly comes out of this looking like a bitter little fool that more and more people are catching on to where as Sean Cavanagh comes out dripping with class both on the field and in his interview. One bookable tackle can not take away from his class. Joe needs to think about lowering his alcohol intake.

You've posted some sh1t on this board in the past, including the Rick Astley video which brought with it a virus which corrupted many PCs but this takes the biscuit. Brolly - straight guy, Cavanagh - Hail fellow well met

Get a breathalyser fitted on your computer you clown. A bit like Joe I doubt.... Bit too fond of a wee sup for your own good!

Priceless from a man who not all that long ago put up a post about Willie Fraser that was beyond anything that even Ruth Patterson would put up

Joe Brolly comes out of this looking like a bitter little fool that more and more people are catching on to where as Sean Cavanagh comes out dripping with class both on the field and in his interview. One bookable tackle can not take away from his class. Joe needs to think about lowering his alcahol intake.

You've posted some sh1t on this board in the past, including the Rick Astley video which brought with it a virus which corrupted many PCs but this takes the biscuit. Brolly - straight guy, Cavanagh - Hail fellow well met