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In between phone calls today, she'll be up the ladder trying to patch up that roof.

Can she tile? I hear Betsy from the canteen tiled over her own kitchen worktop.

Kath on reception is currently the 8th best receptionist in the league, by 6pm on Sunday she could be 6th best, its a fickle sport but I wish her well in her reception-based endeavors for the week ahead knowing that her contribution far outweighs anything Rashford has done this season

Kath has been working from home too much and taking the complete piss. Now Jim has her back in the office she should be back in the Top 4 next season.

She can have a good hard think about things on the long bus ride to Wembley. Down 20 quid and no one beside her to distract her will focus the mind.

Ahhh the old ... not having top quality football people ... chestnut

One step removed from Neville's 'best in class' trope

So to address that they've acquired a 71yo billionaire minority shareholder supporter and Jason Wilcox

The football world is trembling at the prospect!

And if all else fails blame the Glazers, who to date have 5 PL titles and a European Cup under their tenure

Any current successful team that doesn't have top quality football people behind the scenes?  The 5 PL titles and a European Cup was won with Ferguson still there and the structure of the club and how it was ran went with his retirement. The true worth of the Glazers has been seen since.

Is AF still not involved behind the scenes though. Constantly on the screen anytime Utd play. They made some big hullabaloo about a new role he was employed in a few years ago too if I remember. When Ronaldo returned, it was his doing according to some and the man himself. Big big say in managerial appointments we are told. So some of the worst decisions these Glazers have made and dropped the club in the shite, were they not just listening to great football men?

If Ferguson hadn't stuck his nose in horsey business Utd might have had better outcomes

You can sing that.

Ahhh the old ... not having top quality football people ... chestnut

One step removed from Neville's 'best in class' trope

So to address that they've acquired a 71yo billionaire minority shareholder supporter and Jason Wilcox

The football world is trembling at the prospect!

And if all else fails blame the Glazers, who to date have 5 PL titles and a European Cup under their tenure

Any current successful team that doesn't have top quality football people behind the scenes?  The 5 PL titles and a European Cup was won with Ferguson still there and the structure of the club and how it was ran went with his retirement. The true worth of the Glazers has been seen since.

Is AF still not involved behind the scenes though. Constantly on the screen anytime Utd play. They made some big hullabaloo about a new role he was employed in a few years ago too if I remember. When Ronaldo returned, it was his doing according to some and the man himself. Big big say in managerial appointments we are told. So some of the worst decisions these Glazers have made and dropped the club in the shite, were they not just listening to great football men?

[their money]

The Theatre of wet dreams....

I'll get me coat.

But it reeks of owners who've bled the club dry and not one bean of their money will ever be spent on Manchester United.

How can you say that, just the £2.1bn in player acquisitions since they bought the club

And not one bean of it from the Glazers.

That was all revenue generated by Man Utd PLC.

True, but as owners they could have used the cash reserves to pay themselves dividends so it is their money. I dont disagree that they have been shocking owners but it is a case of spending money badly rather than not spending it.

Its the risks of being a plc as United was, there are benefits in terms of access to cash to invest and grow but you are vulnerable to an unwanted owner coming in.

That's the exact point they were paying themselves the dividends at the same time. So instead of redeveloping the stadium and training facilities alongside investing in the playing squad, they choose one.

The money has been invested badly in the playing squad but that comes from not having top quality football people making those calls, you had Ed Woodward with his finance background and no discernible footballing decision making structure.

But they dont care as long as the club keeps making money for them. 

Do you think anything has changed with Ratcliffe coming onboard?

I'm not sure how it has. Spending money hasn't been the problem, if anything they spent too much. So ok, spend less plus restructure your budgets to address more capital investment, which is even less again for squad expenditure. That may not go down well with fans if the reality on the field is less glamourous.

Dividends is a sore issue but Glazers still control 50% so have voting rights on dividends? So they'll still want them and Ratcliffe is an investor so he'll quite happily go along with any dividends to be got. They keep attaching the moniker of billionaire to him, as if he's going to be putting his own money in. I can't see why he will, if he only own 25%, that would be stupid. So any investment will be by way of leverage, same as the Glazers? So essentially being a billionaire is of little consequence.

So what else is he bringing? He's an employee, in control of operations. A lot of the gripes before this was not having football men in charge. Could you call him a football man really? Ok, he might get a good director of football in, or he might not. At least that's how I see it.

Brilliant from the wee county yesterday. Very pleasant surprise watching it, expected the usual cake walk but Louth played some great football.

Nervy 3 points for Arsenal as was to be expected. Good to see City having to at least work to the final day to win the league. I know there's an air of inevitability about it but I'm half expecting a major twist in the saga yet. It's a long season, bodies are tired, anything could happen. Villa nearly burst City's bubble 2 years ago on the final day. No reason why Spurs or Hammers mightn't throw a spanner.

Who made the decision on the staff? was it Ratcliffe (minority share holder) or the Glazers (majority) that  stopped Betsy from getting her husband a ticket and charged her £20 quid for the bus to Wembley?

Personally I think they have done them a favour and saved them a horrible day out

I don't know, maybe the "Operations Manager"?

Favour or not, not every year you make a cup final and I'm sure a jolly to London, a bed for the night and a match ticket is a really really big deal for ordinary folk on minimum to average industrial wage.

It's certainly the last two years in a row.

So it's not Ratcliffe but the operations manager?

I've a friend who's daughter dates somebody who's a marketing manager at City, he gets the same wage that he got in his last marketing job.

Just because they are loaded, people get paid to do a job, not overpaid, and yes him and his girlfriend are heading to Wembley, mainly because City can't fill their own stadium 

Exactly what part of Jim Radcliffe and having full operational control is it that you're having difficulty understanding.

Is being tedious something you have to work very hard at or does it just come natural.

Who made the decision on the staff? was it Ratcliffe (minority share holder) or the Glazers (majority) that  stopped Betsy from getting her husband a ticket and charged her £20 quid for the bus to Wembley?

Personally I think they have done them a favour and saved them a horrible day out

I don't know, maybe the "Operations Manager"?

Favour or not, not every year you make a cup final and I'm sure a jolly to London, a bed for the night and a match ticket is a really really big deal for ordinary folk on minimum to average industrial wage.

Ratcliffe making a lot of noise for a minority stakeholder. Cut all the perks of the staff for FA cup final day just before a swanky lunch for the players' WAGs, all paid for by the club. Nice.

Staff are getting 1 ticket and have to pay £20 for the bus? They have 1,100 staff! as for the dinner, seems that's been a tradition going back to Busby.

I hope they beat Arsenal this weekend 

Man City or any other club gets to a cup final, it's common to give a ticket plus one and pay for lunch and transport on what's a very special occasion. Mean act to take that away from regular staff. I think the problems and imbalance of power at OT will not be sorted out by taking Betsy from the canteen down a peg or two.
 Bit of unnecessary chest pumping from the man with the new hat. Lets see how he gets on with the real job.

A tory is gonna tory..

hammer the low hanging fruit.

Definitely shades of a charlatan about him. Utd people are understandably fed up with how the club is ran but I don't understand the "man on a white horse" vibe some are quick enough to bestow on him.

He's a billionaire, same as the Glazers. You don't become one of them by being generous and stupid. He has approx a 25% stake, Glazers 50%. He's the ops manager or whatever, fair enough, but a minority stakeholder none the less. Someone else controls the club. Any of his own money he spends, he immediately, effectively, loses 75% control of. I don't buy it, no one is that stupid or generous and if they were the Glazers would be the first to take full advantage.
As all things associated with Utd, this latest saga is going to be very entertaining if nothing else.

So is it the Glazers doing it or Ratcliffe

You're gonna have to spell it out for me MR2

Ratcliffe making a lot of noise for a minority stakeholder. Cut all the perks of the staff for FA cup final day just before a swanky lunch for the players' WAGs, all paid for by the club. Nice.

Staff are getting 1 ticket and have to pay £20 for the bus? They have 1,100 staff! as for the dinner, seems that's been a tradition going back to Busby.

I hope they beat Arsenal this weekend 

Man City or any other club gets to a cup final, it's common to give a ticket plus one and pay for lunch and transport on what's a very special occasion. Mean act to take that away from regular staff. I think the problems and imbalance of power at OT will not be sorted out by taking Betsy from the canteen down a peg or two.
 Bit of unnecessary chest pumping from the man with the new hat. Lets see how he gets on with the real job.

A tory is gonna tory..

hammer the low hanging fruit.

Definitely shades of a charlatan about him. Utd people are understandably fed up with how the club is ran but I don't understand the "man on a white horse" vibe some are quick enough to bestow on him.

He's a billionaire, same as the Glazers. You don't become one of them by being generous and stupid. He has approx a 25% stake, Glazers 50%. He's the ops manager or whatever, fair enough, but a minority stakeholder none the less. Someone else controls the club. Any of his own money he spends, he immediately, effectively, loses 75% control of. I don't buy it, no one is that stupid or generous and if they were the Glazers would be the first to take full advantage.
As all things associated with Utd, this latest saga is going to be very entertaining if nothing else.

That would teach the auld witch

Ratcliffe making a lot of noise for a minority stakeholder. Cut all the perks of the staff for FA cup final day just before a swanky lunch for the players' WAGs, all paid for by the club. Nice.

Staff are getting 1 ticket and have to pay £20 for the bus? They have 1,100 staff! as for the dinner, seems that's been a tradition going back to Busby.

I hope they beat Arsenal this weekend 

Man City or any other club gets to a cup final, it's common to give a ticket plus one and pay for lunch and transport on what's a very special occasion. Mean act to take that away from regular staff. I think the problems and imbalance of power at OT will not be sorted out by taking Betsy from the canteen down a peg or two.
 Bit of unnecessary chest pumping from the man with the new hat. Lets see how he gets on with the real job.

I'm sure if he is just a minority stakeholder then he'd have a minority call on such things? I'm sure if Betsy isn't happy at work she'll find another canteen to work in

Same choice every other worker has with a scummy employer eh

Ratcliffe making a lot of noise for a minority stakeholder. Cut all the perks of the staff for FA cup final day just before a swanky lunch for the players' WAGs, all paid for by the club. Nice.

Staff are getting 1 ticket and have to pay £20 for the bus? They have 1,100 staff! as for the dinner, seems that's been a tradition going back to Busby.

I hope they beat Arsenal this weekend 

Man City or any other club gets to a cup final, it's common to give a ticket plus one and pay for lunch and transport on what's a very special occasion. Mean act to take that away from regular staff. I think the problems and imbalance of power at OT will not be sorted out by taking Betsy from the canteen down a peg or two.
 Bit of unnecessary chest pumping from the man with the new hat. Lets see how he gets on with the real job.

Ratcliffe making a lot of noise for a minority stakeholder. Cut all the perks of the staff for FA cup final day just before a swanky lunch for the players' WAGs, all paid for by the club. Nice.