The Sunday Game

Started by Jinxy, May 11, 2008, 10:47:55 PM

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Rossfan

The Ring/Rackard/Meagher teams are almost all from places where Hurling is a micro sport and as Lenny said never got TV coverage.
Majority of Tailteann Counties are mainly football Counties.
Cast yer minds back to 2019, 2018 and back....
Apart from when Mayowestros were in the early rounds the other 1st/2nd Round Qualifier games used to get about 2 mins coverage between them.
The TC will stand or fall on its own merits not by how much of the games appear on the (awful) Sunday Game night time programme.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Eire90

From a promotional point of view should the tailteann cup not have been called something like the All ireland plate All ireland Shield  or all ireland intermediate cup or something like that  does having the word all ireland make it sound more important than tailteann cup.

rosnarun

The GAA have a lot more negotiating power than they use .
The FAI use their international soccer team to gt coverage for the Pisspoor  League of Ireland
like wise the egg chaser have Rte showing France v italy women  live to an audience of about 4 by tying it to the mens national team,
The GAA should insist all gams are shown in tailtean cup if they want the championship coverage.
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

Eire90

i Think  the gaa should look at having the finals of both sports the same weekend  it be like a festival of gaelic games  they should alternate each year what game is on a saturday or sunday.

johnnycool

Quote from: Eire90 on April 15, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
i Think  the gaa should look at having the finals of both sports the same weekend  it be like a festival of gaelic games  they should alternate each year what game is on a saturday or sunday.

Quite a few journalists on Twatter complaining about the new condensed season reasoning the the hurling and football should still be running into late August, lots of kickbacks telling them that there's still plenty of hurling and football going on in the club scene but they're not interested in covering...

Pros and Cons in both arguments..

armaghniac

Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 15, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
i Think  the gaa should look at having the finals of both sports the same weekend  it be like a festival of gaelic games  they should alternate each year what game is on a saturday or sunday.

Quite a few journalists on Twatter complaining about the new condensed season reasoning the the hurling and football should still be running into late August, lots of kickbacks telling them that there's still plenty of hurling and football going on in the club scene but they're not interested in covering...

Pros and Cons in both arguments..

If you are a journalist in a national newspaper then the first round of the Fermanagh championship is not of interest to most of your audience. The GAA should have kept games for national attention, the obvious way to do this would be to stagger the hurling and football seasons, but they won't do this because of a few dozen dual players in the whole country.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Sportacus

Quote from: Eire90 on April 15, 2022, 10:06:07 AM
From a promotional point of view should the tailteann cup not have been called something like the All ireland plate All ireland Shield  or all ireland intermediate cup or something like that  does having the word all ireland make it sound more important than tailteann cup.
Yes 100%.  GAA will spend a bit of money marketing it, but nowhere enough to get the masses to pay attention. All Ireland Intermediate (and Junior) was the way to do this, and the GAA public would have 'got it' straight away.

seafoid

Quote from: johnnycool on April 15, 2022, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on April 15, 2022, 10:16:47 AM
i Think  the gaa should look at having the finals of both sports the same weekend  it be like a festival of gaelic games  they should alternate each year what game is on a saturday or sunday.

Quite a few journalists on Twatter complaining about the new condensed season reasoning the the hurling and football should still be running into late August, lots of kickbacks telling them that there's still plenty of hurling and football going on in the club scene but they're not interested in covering...

Pros and Cons in both arguments..
Peak championship this year is mid June to mid July
Every 2 years it will class with a major international soccer tournament.

What is to be said about this year's football turning the qualifiers into a proper competition. No more handy matches against Antrim or Waterford
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

From the Bunker

The Sunday Game

What can one say? O'Rourke and Spillane have been stealing a living on it for at least 2 decades.

There should be more former Managers on the panel analyzing games? Managers deal with analysing and thinking about games all the time when they were Managers. They know a lot of players form and their good and bad traits. They know habits of teams. Not all analysists need to have been former great footballers, or even footballers at all.

The coverage of the lesser counties is disgraceful. There are at least half the counties of the country with little or no coverage.

Worse still a game covered live during the day that most GAA fans have already seen often get more highlights air time that evening. In fairness the Highlights show should be totally devoted to showing as much Highlights as possible with analysis left to a minimum!

Positive themes are covered in a blase way, Negative and controversial themes are over-done. It seems to be all about the controversy!

There is no preview show of up-coming games. Rugby do previews all the time.

Post match Fan-zone interviews. Interview fans after the game. Sure there will be daft remarks. But you'll come across knowledgeable fans also.

Most Analysists in the Championship are not at the game and in a Studio in Semple Stadium (for example) watching it on TV if there is a Football game as the early throw in and the Hurling is the later one! Crazy!













thewobbler

To be the contrarian:

Spillane and O'Rourke are very much past their sell by date and then some. But they're exceptionally more interesting to listen to than Cooper, Whelan, Dolan and Cavanagh. Being a good analyst is some part charisma and some part educator. You can't be a  complete drain in either pool, no matter how much water you have in the other. And the "next " generation are a drain on both.

In short RTE need a full clearout. And if that's not an option, then O'Rourke and Spillane are the least of the worries.

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Highlights shows in every sport focus on the big game game of the day, which is usually covered live. Just because you've seen it doesn't make it less relevant to their target audience, which is people who haven't seen it, and/or people who want to see it again and listen to what the analysts think.

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I never want to hear what fans think myself. They are biased and 99% of the time are uncomfortable in front of a camera. This adds nothing.

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"Lesser" counties present a conundrum.

Here's the bottom line. And it will always be the bottom line. RTE isn't a regional broadcaster. It's a national broadcaster. So when it covers an event, it should have some semblance of a national interest. No harm to "lesser" counties, but if only a couple of thousand (or less) people from your own county can be bothered watching in person.... well ... that's not a national event. If you don't like this train of thought, you've got to realise that your county is the problem, not RTE.

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It's not perfect, the Sunday Game. But most of your gripes aren't based on substance.

armaghniac

Quote from: thewobbler on April 15, 2022, 11:16:08 PM
It's not perfect, the Sunday Game. But most of your gripes aren't based on substance.

The solution lies partly in some other coverage other than the compressed hour on Sunday night. There must be some scope for a magazine show on Tuesday night at 11 or whatever.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

From the Bunker

Quote from: thewobbler on April 15, 2022, 11:16:08 PM
To be the contrarian:

Spillane and O'Rourke are very much past their sell by date and then some. But they're exceptionally more interesting to listen to than Cooper, Whelan, Dolan and Cavanagh. Being a good analyst is some part charisma and some part educator. You can't be a  complete drain in either pool, no matter how much water you have in the other. And the "next " generation are a drain on both.

In short RTE need a full clearout. And if that's not an option, then O'Rourke and Spillane are the least of the worries.

You think? Spillane depends on reciting stats and O'Rourke just depends on lazy analysis.

—-

Highlights shows in every sport focus on the big game game of the day, which is usually covered live. Just because you've seen it doesn't make it less relevant to their target audience, which is people who haven't seen it, and/or people who want to see it again and listen to what the analysts think.

Often the covered game is not the biggest game of the day!

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I never want to hear what fans think myself. They are biased and 99% of the time are uncomfortable in front of a camera. This adds nothing.

Do you think analysists are not biased?

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"Lesser" counties present a conundrum.

Here's the bottom line. And it will always be the bottom line. RTE isn't a regional broadcaster. It's a national broadcaster. So when it covers an event, it should have some semblance of a national interest. No harm to "lesser" counties, but if only a couple of thousand (or less) people from your own county can be bothered watching in person.... well ... that's not a national event. If you don't like this train of thought, you've got to realise that your county is the problem, not RTE.

You see this is where RTE misses a trick! RTE can't take on the Netflix and the likes with certain stuff. But they can kick their ass with the regional stuff! Never underestimate this!

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It's not perfect, the Sunday Game. But most of your gripes aren't based on substance.

Ah, I was only throwing out a few gripes.....................I'll crawl back into my hole and leave RTE alone!

Cunny Funt

Darren Fehill and Pat Spillane doing the  GAAGO commentary on the first ever live stream of a championship game from Gaelic Park New York this Sunday.  Pat will be hoping his own son will be in action for Sligo.

lenny

Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2022, 02:12:10 AM
Darren Fehill and Pat Spillane doing the  GAAGO commentary on the first ever live stream of a championship game from Gaelic Park New York this Sunday.  Pat will be hoping his own son will be in action for Sligo.

Disgraceful comments from Cavanagh on the Sunday game last night. He should not be allowed back on the show after that. I've never seen a referee get a personal attack like that before in any sports show.

tonto1888

Quote from: lenny on April 18, 2022, 06:21:44 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 16, 2022, 02:12:10 AM
Darren Fehill and Pat Spillane doing the  GAAGO commentary on the first ever live stream of a championship game from Gaelic Park New York this Sunday.  Pat will be hoping his own son will be in action for Sligo.

Disgraceful comments from Cavanagh on the Sunday game last night. He should not be allowed back on the show after that. I've never seen a referee get a personal attack like that before in any sports show.

What did he say