Might as well get this thread started. Current odds:
Mayo 1/4
Tipp 7/2
Draw 10/1
Well done to Tipp.
Nice to see some hard work against the odds rewarded.
Never thought Mayo and Tipp would be meeting in an AI semi-final again so soon.
Tradition says Mayo should win.
To be honest it's hard get excited or even care about the rest of the Championship.
The 'forgotten' semifinal. We'll know the night before if it should go ahead or not.
It will be interesting to see how Mayo cope with Tipperary around the middle. Our midfield is light enough in my opinion. Ruane, despite being motm the last day, was poor in the first half I thought. I suppose it will come down to the team that wins the most breaks. Hopefully that will be Mayo. Our forwards need to improve. Tipp have enough quality forwards to punish us if our shooting is as wild as it was the last two days.
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 23, 2020, 05:44:58 PM
Well done to Tipp.
Nice to see some hard work against the odds rewarded.
Never thought Mayo and Tipp would be meeting in an AI semi-final again so soon.
Tradition says Mayo should win.
To be honest it's hard get excited or even care about the rest of the Championship.
Everybody knows that the Dubs are funded
Every knows that the gah don't care
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg
Good to see Horan mentioning this:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1124/1180258-horan-blasts-outrageous-match-day-panel-regulations/
I watched back a bit of the Tipp game and apart from the star men, I thought Fahey at CHB for them was very good. Fox got on some amount of breaking ball also, he seemed to be everywhere
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 25, 2020, 01:33:17 PM
Good to see Horan mentioning this:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1124/1180258-horan-blasts-outrageous-match-day-panel-regulations/
I watched back a bit of the Tipp game and apart from the star men, I thought Fahey at CHB for them was very good. Fox got on some amount of breaking ball also, he seemed to be everywhere
He's absolutely right. All panelists that have been training hard all year should be allowed to attend matches.
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 25, 2020, 03:07:28 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 25, 2020, 01:33:17 PM
Good to see Horan mentioning this:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1124/1180258-horan-blasts-outrageous-match-day-panel-regulations/
I watched back a bit of the Tipp game and apart from the star men, I thought Fahey at CHB for them was very good. Fox got on some amount of breaking ball also, he seemed to be everywhere
He's absolutely right. All panelists that have been training hard all year should be allowed to attend matches.
I agree with the point but I can't help but see Horan as a bit of a hypocrite considering when he names teams he doesn't even do the subs the dignity of naming them never mind the panel members outside the match day 26.
Quote from: twohands!!! on November 25, 2020, 03:32:56 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 25, 2020, 03:07:28 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on November 25, 2020, 01:33:17 PM
Good to see Horan mentioning this:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1124/1180258-horan-blasts-outrageous-match-day-panel-regulations/
I watched back a bit of the Tipp game and apart from the star men, I thought Fahey at CHB for them was very good. Fox got on some amount of breaking ball also, he seemed to be everywhere
He's absolutely right. All panelists that have been training hard all year should be allowed to attend matches.
I agree with the point but I can't help but see Horan as a bit of a hypocrite considering when he names teams he doesn't even do the subs the dignity of naming them never mind the panel members outside the match day 26.
I'm sure he names the 26 many days before a match to his players in private.
the subs and team are normally 95% correct on the program so its obvious the panel know the team by Wednesday at least .
he doesn't seem to play silly beggars any more .unlike galway who were farcical on connaght final day,
Worst since they had M donnellan limp around the parade , as 17th man,
I cant remember who the other no playing marcher was. Clancy?
Are you talking about Comer being on the bench?
Galway started 14 of the named 15.
The guy that didn't play was being given every chance to be right but wasn't ready by game day.
They are forced to name the team by a certain day.
Lads whats the story with the older Mayo lads? Are Boyle, Higgins, etc still on the extended panel?
Quote from: Verticalball on November 27, 2020, 11:00:46 PM
Lads whats the story with the older Mayo lads? Are Boyle, Higgins, etc still on the extended panel?
Yes!
Getting ready for their end of days.
Yep.
Higgins came on v Galway
Quote from: Verticalball on November 27, 2020, 11:00:46 PM
Lads whats the story with the older Mayo lads? Are Boyle, Higgins, etc still on the extended panel?
Yes, they are all there- I think Jason Doherty is sidelined but, AFAIK, all the heroes of yesteryear are still there and competing for places.
Horan has gone public to express his disgust at the restriction on the size of the panel to the usual 26- meaning others who are not named on the panel are excluded. He has also said that all members of his full panel are competing for places and nobody's place on the starting fifteen is assured.
Quote from: Verticalball on November 27, 2020, 11:00:46 PM
Lads whats the story with the older Mayo lads? Are Boyle, Higgins, etc still on the extended panel?
They were both named on the bench vs Galway as far as I remember
Full panels will be permitted to attend the two All-Ireland semi finals this weekend.
Quote from: Blowitupref on November 30, 2020, 02:45:21 PM
Full panels will be permitted to attend the two All-Ireland semi finals this weekend.
Dubs are taking the Hill 8)
Quote from: galwayman on November 27, 2020, 03:47:26 PM
Are you talking about Comer being on the bench?
Galway started 14 of the named 15.
The guy that didn't play was being given every chance to be right but wasn't ready by game day.
They are forced to name the team by a certain day.
You trying to make little of the comer debacle ? Joyce played silly beggars and all this nonsense about Padraig joyce been all straight as a dye , would ya give over , ' no damien won't play any part , 4 - 6 weeks ,so it would take a miracle "
Absolute fraud . Poor manager imo , won't be long at the helm.
Quote from: larryin89 on November 30, 2020, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: galwayman on November 27, 2020, 03:47:26 PM
Are you talking about Comer being on the bench?
Galway started 14 of the named 15.
The guy that didn't play was being given every chance to be right but wasn't ready by game day.
They are forced to name the team by a certain day.
You trying to make little of the comer debacle ? Joyce played silly beggars and all this nonsense about Padraig joyce been all straight as a dye , would ya give over , ' no damien won't play any part , 4 - 6 weeks ,so it would take a miracle "
Absolute fraud . Poor manager imo , won't be long at the helm.
I wouldn't see it that way Lar. Comer couldn't be fit for Mayo game but he still was a huge distraction when introduced. He pinned down one of Mayo's best defenders and a launch pad for attacks. We only got over the line there. Conroy and Walsh played hell and we were lucky that no other Galway forward did anything much. We handled Walsh and Conroy poorly.
That was pure psychology by Joyce and it nearly worked, he won't be the first and he won't be the last. We, Mayo should have won by 5 or 6 points but we didn't, we got over the line by the skin of our teeth. We will need to make better decisions against Tipperary.
Quote from: chrissears on November 30, 2020, 11:38:26 PM
That was pure psychology by Joyce and it nearly worked, he won't be the first and he won't be the last. We, Mayo should have won by 5 or 6 points but we didn't, we got over the line by the skin of our teeth. We will need to make better decisions against Tipperary.
I have to agree with all that. Bringing on Comer was a calculated risk and it nearly worked. As moysider says, he pinned down one of our best defenders and proved a huge distraction for our defenders. The Mayo psyche is a bit brittle at the best of times and with Comer's arrival, the defence lost whatever little bit of composure they had left.
It wasn't that he was going to do anything spectacular but his presence unsettled our backs.
WE were indeed 5 or 6 points the better side but, like far too many times before, we were hanging on for the final whistle.
I don't think comer upset our defence much. Mullin had been marking Burke and just moved on to comer when the substitution happened.
Our biggest issue was not having a strong lead at half time. Galway were always going to come back strong with the wind at their backs.
Quote from: moysider on November 30, 2020, 11:01:57 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on November 30, 2020, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: galwayman on November 27, 2020, 03:47:26 PM
Are you talking about Comer being on the bench?
Galway started 14 of the named 15.
The guy that didn't play was being given every chance to be right but wasn't ready by game day.
They are forced to name the team by a certain day.
You trying to make little of the comer debacle ? Joyce played silly beggars and all this nonsense about Padraig joyce been all straight as a dye , would ya give over , ' no damien won't play any part , 4 - 6 weeks ,so it would take a miracle "
Absolute fraud . Poor manager imo , won't be long at the helm.
I wouldn't see it that way Lar. Comer couldn't be fit for Mayo game but he still was a huge distraction when introduced. He pinned down one of Mayo's best defenders and a launch pad for attacks. We only got over the line there. Conroy and Walsh played hell and we were lucky that no other Galway forward did anything much. We handled Walsh and Conroy poorly.
Walsh, Conroy scored 0-6 between them from play, scoring some top individual points that only players of their quality can score for Galway. Comer probably would have scored another few from play if he was fit to start that match and enough to turn a 1 point loss into a win.
Conor Sweeney, Michael Quinlivan are Tipps main marksmens and I'll be surprised if they are allowed in for any easy scores when man marked by experienced defenders in the likes of Barrett and Keegan.
Quote from: larryin89 on November 30, 2020, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: galwayman on November 27, 2020, 03:47:26 PM
Are you talking about Comer being on the bench?
Galway started 14 of the named 15.
The guy that didn't play was being given every chance to be right but wasn't ready by game day.
They are forced to name the team by a certain day.
You trying to make little of the comer debacle ? Joyce played silly beggars and all this nonsense about Padraig joyce been all straight as a dye , would ya give over , ' no damien won't play any part , 4 - 6 weeks ,so it would take a miracle "
Absolute fraud . Poor manager imo , won't be long at the helm.
Forearmed is forewarned as they say. Nobody will take anything he says with a pinch of salt again. At least we won the match. I mentioned earlier in this thread that our forwards have to be more efficient with the ball. If the same level of waywardness happens on Sunday, we'll be hanging on at the end at best once again.
Jordan Flynn and James Carr have a role to play here, I understand everyone will jump in saying ff line is flying with T C , aido and cillian but I'm still not convinced at all with loftus playing midfield, we are not winning enough primary ball in the middle , even against roscommon yer man crompton I think is his name lorded it for a right few balls , only they were poor from there onwards that game could of been a lot closer .
I'd like to see aos move back to midfield , bring in carr then . Jordan Flynn can field a ball, I'm not sure we could drop ruane to the bench though . It's a scary thought but perhaps Kevin mcloughlin should be benched . Ryan o Donoghue not doing a lot either . Diarmuid is not firing also and that's a while going on . Point being just cause we beat ros and Galway it doesn't necessarily mean it's been the best 15 or all players have played well .
Shot selection was dire the last day I counted three in the first ten mins , Ryan o Donoghue, mattie ruane and Lee keegan all fluffed stupid shots instead of recycling the ball , cillain should of also netted his chance that's 1-3 missed in first ten mins , dubs wouldn't of wasted such a period to bury a team .
I had a look at the scorers for both teams and it seems like we both have a fairly even spread:
Player Total
COC: 1-22 (0-14)
Conroy 1-4
DOC 1-2
AOS: 0-3
Ruane 0-3
Durcan 0-3
Walsh 0-3
Loftus 0-2
Carr 0-1
KMcL 0-1
ROD 0-1
Player Total
Sweeney 1-18 (0-9)
Quinlivan 0-6
Casey 1-3
Kennedy 0-5
Maher 1-0
Fahey 0-2
O'Brien 0-1
Comerford 0-1
Austin 0-1
Kiely 0-1
Moloney 0-1
Boland 0-1
Durcan is our only back to score so far this year which is a big change from previous years.
Quote from: larryin89 on December 01, 2020, 10:03:03 PM
Jordan Flynn and James Carr have a role to play here, I understand everyone will jump in saying ff line is flying with T C , aido and cillian but I'm still not convinced at all with loftus playing midfield, we are not winning enough primary ball in the middle , even against roscommon yer man crompton I think is his name lorded it for a right few balls , only they were poor from there onwards that game could of been a lot closer .
I'd like to see aos move back to midfield , bring in carr then . Jordan Flynn can field a ball, I'm not sure we could drop ruane to the bench though . It's a scary thought but perhaps Kevin mcloughlin should be benched . Ryan o Donoghue not doing a lot either . Diarmuid is not firing also and that's a while going on . Point being just cause we beat ros and Galway it doesn't necessarily mean it's been the best 15 or all players have played well .
Shot selection was dire the last day I counted three in the first ten mins , Ryan o Donoghue, mattie ruane and Lee keegan all fluffed stupid shots instead of recycling the ball , cillain should of also netted his chance that's 1-3 missed in first ten mins , dubs wouldn't of wasted such a period to bury a team .
He has some potential but I wouldn't even consider starting him based on what he's shown so far. I agree that we have problems at MF though but if Horan has stuck with Loftus this far, he's not going to drop him for Croker imo
Quote from: macdanger2 on December 02, 2020, 04:29:24 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on December 01, 2020, 10:03:03 PM
Jordan Flynn and James Carr have a role to play here, I understand everyone will jump in saying ff line is flying with T C , aido and cillian but I'm still not convinced at all with loftus playing midfield, we are not winning enough primary ball in the middle , even against roscommon yer man crompton I think is his name lorded it for a right few balls , only they were poor from there onwards that game could of been a lot closer .
I'd like to see aos move back to midfield , bring in carr then . Jordan Flynn can field a ball, I'm not sure we could drop ruane to the bench though . It's a scary thought but perhaps Kevin mcloughlin should be benched . Ryan o Donoghue not doing a lot either . Diarmuid is not firing also and that's a while going on . Point being just cause we beat ros and Galway it doesn't necessarily mean it's been the best 15 or all players have played well .
Shot selection was dire the last day I counted three in the first ten mins , Ryan o Donoghue, mattie ruane and Lee keegan all fluffed stupid shots instead of recycling the ball , cillain should of also netted his chance that's 1-3 missed in first ten mins , dubs wouldn't of wasted such a period to bury a team .
He has some potential but I wouldn't even consider starting him based on what he's shown so far. I agree that we have problems at MF though but if Horan has stuck with Loftus this far, he's not going to drop him for Croker imo
Jordan has other qualities to make him a possible starter . if he can control his aggression but not too much he would be a different type of player for mayo.
I think the team horan has picked all year has been aimed at croke park with the dubs in mind, every player he has added has brought a freshness and speed to the game .its Why Aidan is Full forward and Loftus midfield Aidan would slow things down a bit where as the Ruane and loftus it all about continuity and speed.
Not necessary the best player but the right players for the way Horan wants then to play.
When ye're lads win Sam they won't be allowed bring him home.
Quote from: Rossfan on December 03, 2020, 05:56:39 PM
When ye're lads win Sam they won't be allowed bring him home.
How many of yer lads were born last time ros were in a semi final ?
Leave poor Rossfan alone. He's one of us now with his signature ;D.
I wonder will there be any surprises when the team is named. I assume it'll be named tonight.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on December 04, 2020, 09:14:35 AM
Leave poor Rossfan alone. He's one of us now with his signature ;D.
I wonder will there be any surprises when the team is named. I assume it'll be named tonight.
Ryan O'Donoghue is probably the only one in danger of losing his spot. The other 14 are fairly nailed on.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on December 04, 2020, 09:14:35 AM
Leave poor Rossfan alone. He's one of us now with his signature ;D.
Fixed that now thanks Farr. ;D
This mid winter wonderland spectatorless competition isn't entrusting the fans anyway.
Only 3 pages on a Rhubarbs game.....
Would have been around 40 at this stage in a normal year.
Maybe the absence of Tyronies is keeping the posts down?
As for the game I doubt if Sweeney and Quinlivan will be given as much room as they got v Cork while at the other end the Mwr forwards will have more of a cutting edge than the very inept Cork crew.
Rhus by 6 (so Tipp will probably win it with my record)
Was listening to a couple of OTB pieces there - Kevin Walsh is a brutal analyst, he hasn't a clue; Donaghy on the other hand comes across very well and seems to know what he's talking about
Tipp team named:
https://mobile.twitter.com/TipperaryGAA/status/1334965889519783937
(https://scontent.fdub5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/129619078_3740496542673454_5333284248118377229_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8024bb&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=wtjoOLVlDZMAX8UO5a4&_nc_ht=scontent.fdub5-1.fna&tp=14&oh=281945f168596784f7a9fba3a2aa4784&oe=5FF027E2)
I thought James Horan usually named our team on Thursdays or am I muxed dip again. ;D
Quote from: Rossfan on December 03, 2020, 05:56:39 PM
When ye're lads win Sam they won't be allowed bring him home.
Confirmed tonight.
GAA President John Horan has confirmed that the trophies will not leave HQ because of the fear they "will be a focus of crowds gathering
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1204/1182500-john-horan-the-cups-will-not-leave-croke-park/
Quote from: rosnarun on December 03, 2020, 05:29:35 PM
I think the team horan has picked all year has been aimed at croke park with the dubs in mind, every player he has added has brought a freshness and speed to the game .its Why Aidan is Full forward and Loftus midfield Aidan would slow things down a bit where as the Ruane and loftus it all about continuity and speed.
Not necessary the best player but the right players for the way Horan wants then to play.
I was thinking exactly that. There are arguments that the current positioning would suit a game v the Dubs better, but almost certainly moving back to their traditional positions would suit best v Tipp. Of course it's any easy change to make if things do start to go a bit pear shaped.
I'd fear for Tipp that v Cork almost all their substitutions were because of good players getting tired
Team very late to be announced, hope there's nothing wrong re covid .
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Oisín Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Chris Barrett - Clontarf
4. Lee Keegan - Westport
5. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Eoghan McLaughlin - Westport
8. Conor Loftus - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
9. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy (C)
15. Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber
Quote from: Farrandeelin on December 05, 2020, 05:31:51 PM
1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Oisín Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Chris Barrett - Clontarf
4. Lee Keegan - Westport
5. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Eoghan McLaughlin - Westport
8. Conor Loftus - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
9. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
10. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy (C)
15. Cillian O'Connor - Ballintubber
Unchanged for the 3rd game in a row.
If there ever was a runner up final this is it , we've enough of them titles yo last till world end . Not going to say I hope we dont win but I cant see myself too upset if we do lose, prize is such a drag and so boringly familiar.
Ye're volunteers obviously not working hard enough ::)
Quote from: larryin89 on December 06, 2020, 12:36:27 AM
If there ever was a runner up final this is it , we've enough of them titles yo last till world end . Not going to say I hope we dont win but I cant see myself too upset if we do lose, prize is such a drag and so boringly familiar.
At least we won't be there if we do win today.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on December 05, 2020, 12:13:56 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 03, 2020, 05:56:39 PM
When ye're lads win Sam they won't be allowed bring him home.
Confirmed tonight.
GAA President John Horan has confirmed that the trophies will not leave HQ because of the fear they "will be a focus of crowds gathering
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1204/1182500-john-horan-the-cups-will-not-leave-croke-park/
Because Dublin will be keeping it anyway and they seem to be a boring group
Strange morning. Today we can easily beat mayo if we play to our potential. Equally Mayo could give us a trimming if they get it right and we are any way off. Sickening thing is today there is a big element of doubt in how the result might go and how competitive the game will be. If we do win, as defeatist as it may be, Dublin will beat us handy.
Quote from: Rossfan on December 06, 2020, 12:42:51 AM
Ye're volunteers obviously not working hard enough ::)
Yeah Mayo, get the finger out ffs.
Quote from: tippabu on December 06, 2020, 09:59:01 AM
Strange morning. Today we can easily beat mayo if we play to our potential. Equally Mayo could give us a trimming if they get it right and we are any way off. Sickening thing is today there is a big element of doubt in how the result might go and how competitive the game will be. If we do win, as defeatist as it may be, Dublin will beat us handy.
Yeah cause it's such a bore for tipp football to be in aif all the time .
Get a fookin grip man and enjoy it first time in 85 years in croker as munster champions . In all likelihood could be decades before you win munster again .
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on December 06, 2020, 08:42:52 AM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on December 05, 2020, 12:13:56 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 03, 2020, 05:56:39 PM
When ye're lads win Sam they won't be allowed bring him home.
Confirmed tonight.
GAA President John Horan has confirmed that the trophies will not leave HQ because of the fear they "will be a focus of crowds gathering
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1204/1182500-john-horan-the-cups-will-not-leave-croke-park/
Because Dublin will be keeping it anyway and they seem to be a boring group
Didn't realise you knew them personally.
Big Aido in at FF?
Mayo to win by 12. Tipp beat an avearge cork side. Were terrible against waterford and limerick.
Tipp had their Bloody Sunday commemorative jersey two weeks ago
Today they're wearing the Boca Juniors colours in tribute to Maradona
They have all the spiritual angles covered
Big goal chance not taken by Tipp. 1 point each 5 mins played.
If Mayo play like this against Dublin game be over by first water break
Water break, lively opening. Mayo 1-6 Tipperary 1-2. Tipp already counting the cost of only taking 1 of their three goal scoring opportunities.
Gough is a terrible ref. He needs an ego check.
A lot of fist'n going on. Is it not a hand pass anymore? 'And he fisted it up and over the bar..
Great goalkeeping so far from David Clarke. Mayo would be in bother without him.
CO'C having a good day.
Game over now. Tipp will be happy with their Munster title.
Mayo running away with this. Something needs to be done. It's not fair on Tipperary having to play this Mayo side.
Tipp should consider boycotting the All Ireland championship next year
2nd Mayo goal Tipperary defence left wide open. 2-10 to 1-3 ahead now and looks to be game over after 25 minutes.
Cillian O'Connor having a field day.
Wont be long till the split Mayo in two crowd appear.
Split Mayo!
Quote from: dublin7 on December 06, 2020, 03:57:28 PM
Mayo running away with this. Something needs to be done. It's not fair on Tipperary having to play this Mayo side.
Tipp should consider boycotting the All Ireland championship next year
And there we go. ::)
Kerry will be kicking themselves after watching this.
Quote from: mup on December 06, 2020, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on December 06, 2020, 03:57:28 PM
Mayo running away with this. Something needs to be done. It's not fair on Tipperary having to play this Mayo side.
Tipp should consider boycotting the All Ireland championship next year
And there we go. ::)
You're right it is ridiculous. 👍
Imagine calling for teams to boycott the championship because an opposition side is too good. It would be embarrassing and humiliating for that person/county
Goal number 3 for Mayo and O'Connor. That goal sums up Tipps day.
Munster football is in a poor state
Mayo might cause Dublin some trouble in the final given their recent track record. They won't win, but might get within 5 or 6 points.
Looking forward to the all Ireland final now, I was afraid it might be tipp getting a drubbing in the final.😊😊😊
Joking!!! Some craic if the fog means its cancelled!
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 06, 2020, 04:01:58 PM
Goal number 3 for Mayo and O'Connor. That goal sums up Tipps day.
The only thing that can save tipp is the fog. Mayo looking really good, clinical and cynical.
Shambolic defending and goalkeeping by Tipp in that half, holy Christ
Kerry lads must be a bit embarrassed watching this. How did they not cruise through Munster?
Mayo 4-12 Tipperary 1-5. 2nd Mayo goal ended the game as a contest, Tipp will do well to avoid a 20 point loss now.
Sensational first half from Mayo. Very ruthless. Cillian O'Connor enjoying his football again.
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on December 06, 2020, 04:09:17 PM
Kerry lads must be a bit embarrassed watching this. How did they not cruise through Munster?
They were beat by a woeful Cork side.
This will be Mayo's year.
Time Mayo was spilt.
Mayo are super. Great footballers, tough when needed, unreal athletic ability. As usual they are going to take a bit of beating
Quote from: Angelo on December 06, 2020, 03:51:11 PM
Gough is a terrible ref. He needs an ego check.
Don't know how you can say that, he's been pretty perfect do far. Jesus you need to give refs a bit of slack lad. Feel sorry for Tipp, just not able for the pace and power of Mayo. They needed those two early goals they've missed
Mayo looking good but Dubs will massacre them if they defend like they have today.
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 06, 2020, 04:11:02 PM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on December 06, 2020, 04:09:17 PM
Kerry lads must be a bit embarrassed watching this. How did they not cruise through Munster?
They were beat by a woeful Cork side.
In monsoon weather conditions!
Fantastic for Tipp to win Munster. Downside is it cost us a great Mayo v Kerry semi final. But you gotta earn your place and Kerry didn't
Quote from: Angelo on December 06, 2020, 03:51:11 PM
Gough is a terrible ref. He needs an ego check.
20 minutes into the game that had absolutely no talking points and you're blaming the ref?? My god man you're either 12 or 35 years old but the mind of a 12 year old
Some levels of naivety from Tipp. Tyring to run the ball out from the back, getting turned over and queues of Mayo players lining up to put the ball in the net.
Quote from: Itchy on December 06, 2020, 04:15:27 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 06, 2020, 03:51:11 PM
Gough is a terrible ref. He needs an ego check.
Don't know how you can say that, he's been pretty perfect do far. Jesus you need to give refs a bit of slack lad. Feel sorry for Tipp, just not able for the pace and power of Mayo. They needed those two early goals they've missed
Jeez Itchy, I only see the moron's posts the odd time when someone quotes him. But he's fierce unfortunate when it comes to refs. Every single time the ref rides whatever team he supports. Maybe they're just out to get him! 😆😆
Quote from: Hound on December 06, 2020, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 06, 2020, 04:11:02 PM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on December 06, 2020, 04:09:17 PM
Kerry lads must be a bit embarrassed watching this. How did they not cruise through Munster?
They were beat by a woeful Cork side.
In monsoon weather conditions!
Fantastic for Tipp to win Munster. Downside is it cost us a great Mayo v Kerry semi final. But you gotta earn your place and Kerry didn't
Conditions were the same for both, did Cavan ruin a Dublin Donegal semi final?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2020, 04:18:15 PM
Quote from: Angelo on December 06, 2020, 03:51:11 PM
Gough is a terrible ref. He needs an ego check.
20 minutes into the game that had absolutely no talking points and you're blaming the ref?? My god man you're either 12 or 35 years old but the mind of a 12 year old
What did I blame the ref for?
I just pointed out that he's a terrible ref who is far, far too fussy. He awarded a load of soft frees in that first 15 minute spell. Blowing up frees for the most minor and technical of infringements that the vast majority of referees let go as they are not inane egomaniacs like Gough.
Hugely worrying for Mayo but much more so hugely encouraging for them
It's prototype Horan football, high octane, revved up, turbo charged, lethal, and their young players are being seamlessly blended in
It's a brutalisation
Yet they still have the same dreadful failings at the back they had in 2013 and 2014
Lee Keegan can man mark but he is not a close to goal man marker
But make no mistake, Mayo are at full speed championship pace, have serious football under their belts and have a cutting edge that they didn't have before
And they show no sign of going away any time soon
They will be in with a serious puncher's chance on December 19th
Split Mayo in 2
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Quote from: Blowitupref on December 06, 2020, 04:01:58 PM
Goal number 3 for Mayo and O'Connor. That goal sums up Tipps day.
The only thing that can save tipp is the fog. Mayo looking really good, clinical and cynical.
As I said.
Was someone on here not too long ago saying they would rather Darren McCurry than Cillian O'Connor? :o
Quote from: Mike Tyson on December 06, 2020, 04:26:48 PM
Was someone on here not too long ago saying they would rather Darren McCurry than Cillian O'Connor? :o
Ffs Pat Spillane could come down from the stands and play as well as O'Connor
Definite black card but could Quinlivan have kept going instead of going down?
Quote from: hardstation on December 06, 2020, 04:22:57 PM
Mayo are the new Donegal. Won't get a sniff against Dublin but they're the only hope we have so we have to big them up. Steamrolling a Tipperary team who even by their own standards are having a terrible day at the office.
For as bad as Tipperary has been you are underating Mayo whom have the fitness and physicality to get a sniff of Dublin. Donegal have done nothing in the All-Ireland series for the last 5 years to get such hype.
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Mayo running away with this. Something needs to be done. It's not fair on Tipperary having to play this Mayo side.
Tipp should consider boycotting the All Ireland championship next year
And there we go. ::)
You're right it is ridiculous. 👍
Imagine calling for teams to boycott the championship because an opposition side is too good. It would be embarrassing and humiliating for that person/county
Yea stop being facetious.
They're not missing much up front, but if they defend like this against the Dubs, then Mayo will be getting a trimming themselves
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Quote from: Hound on December 06, 2020, 04:17:09 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on December 06, 2020, 04:11:02 PM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on December 06, 2020, 04:09:17 PM
Kerry lads must be a bit embarrassed watching this. How did they not cruise through Munster?
They were beat by a woeful Cork side.
In monsoon weather conditions!
Fantastic for Tipp to win Munster. Downside is it cost us a great Mayo v Kerry semi final. But you gotta earn your place and Kerry didn't
Conditions were the same for both, did Cavan ruin a Dublin Donegal semi final?
I certainly didn't say that. But I do love watching Mayo v Kerry games, usually very exciting affairs with football played the way I like seeing it. But Kerry have only themselves to blame. They would beat Cork 9 times out of 10 but couldn't do it when it counted this year.
Tipp are good to watch too though. Doesn't look like they're lying down and they've had some bad breaks too.
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Quote from: Mike Tyson on December 06, 2020, 04:26:48 PM
Was someone on here not too long ago saying they would rather Darren McCurry than Cillian O'Connor? :o
Ffs Pat Spillane could come down from the stands and play as well as O'Connor
Ok mate ;D ;D
Quote from: Schkite on December 06, 2020, 04:29:44 PM
They're not missing much up front, but if they defend like this against the Dubs, then Mayo will be getting a trimming themselves
Yeah, Dublin will eat us up if we're this loose at the back
Quote from: Mike Tyson on December 06, 2020, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2020, 04:28:38 PM
Quote from: Mike Tyson on December 06, 2020, 04:26:48 PM
Was someone on here not too long ago saying they would rather Darren McCurry than Cillian O'Connor? :o
Ffs Pat Spillane could come down from the stands and play as well as O'Connor
Ok mate ;D ;D
You think anyone is marking O'Connor? Let's see how he plays next day.
They'll need the dipped headlights on soon
How bad would the fog need to get for a ref to abandon a game? Is there a distance the ref has to be able to see?
You would be as well listening on the wireless, brutal to watch in more ways than one.
Strength and conditioning are crucial in the modern day GAA. You can have all the natural talent in the world, but if you can't match up with Dublin physically and fitness wise, you haven't a prayer.
Mayo have been the only team down through the years who can consistently compete with Dublin. Aidan O'Shea, Lee Keegan, Paddy Durcan, etc are all able to bounce off tackles.
Quote from: Hound on December 06, 2020, 04:33:59 PM
How bad would the fog need to get for a ref to abandon a game? Is there a distance the ref has to be able to see?
20 points ahead, big call to abandon though its impossible to watch.
Quote from: Hound on December 06, 2020, 04:33:59 PM
How bad would the fog need to get for a ref to abandon a game? Is there a distance the ref has to be able to see?
Mayo V Dublin in castlebar 4/5 years ago was abandoned because of fog
God be with the days of competitive All-Ireland semi finals.
Tommy Conroy is the difference, if we had him years ago there'd be at least one all Ireland, Cillian OConnor actually being fit is huge too. Plus a couple of massive additions, and Aidan OShea has definitely improved. Think they'll do it this year.
Would Mayo not empty the bench now?
Protect players
DO'C seems reinvigorated this year too, Keegan is a worry though
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Quote from: hardstation on December 06, 2020, 04:22:57 PM
Mayo are the new Donegal. Won't get a sniff against Dublin but they're the only hope we have so we have to big them up. Steamrolling a Tipperary team who even by their own standards are having a terrible day at the office.
For as bad as Tipperary has been you are underating Mayo whom have the fitness and physicality to get a sniff of Dublin. Donegal have done nothing in the All-Ireland series for the last 5 years to get such hype.
::)
If you think so.
I know you need to stop hyping up a Donegal side that have flattered to deceive under Bonner.
Would he ever get COC and AOS off
An apt title for the second half of this match would be "The Fog of Bore"
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Quote from: hardstation on December 06, 2020, 04:31:12 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 06, 2020, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 06, 2020, 04:22:57 PM
Mayo are the new Donegal. Won't get a sniff against Dublin but they're the only hope we have so we have to big them up. Steamrolling a Tipperary team who even by their own standards are having a terrible day at the office.
For as bad as Tipperary has been you are underating Mayo whom have the fitness and physicality to get a sniff of Dublin. Donegal have done nothing in the All-Ireland series for the last 5 years to get such hype.
::)
If you think so.
I know you need to stop hyping up a Donegal side that have flattered to deceive under Bonner.
Mayo flatter to deceive pretty much every year in fairness.
The fog isn't an issue, there has been 37 scores so far
About time
19 points by Tipp is some going, 3 decent goal chances would have lifted that to 27
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Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 06, 2020, 04:45:33 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 06, 2020, 04:31:12 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 06, 2020, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 06, 2020, 04:22:57 PM
Mayo are the new Donegal. Won't get a sniff against Dublin but they're the only hope we have so we have to big them up. Steamrolling a Tipperary team who even by their own standards are having a terrible day at the office.
For as bad as Tipperary has been you are underating Mayo whom have the fitness and physicality to get a sniff of Dublin. Donegal have done nothing in the All-Ireland series for the last 5 years to get such hype.
::)
If you think so.
I know you need to stop hyping up a Donegal side that have flattered to deceive under Bonner.
And a Mayo team who are 3 years away from a team who could challenge Dublin.
In three years time most of their experienced starters who are leading this team will be finished
I'm not sure how hard Lee Keegan actually tried to stop Conor Sweeney there but he was done up like a kipper all the same
It's hard to think his place could be under threat for the final, but maybe it should be
The game was over as a contest long ago, but it's still mental to see the amount of goal chances Mayo have given up.
Hope I'm wrong, but suspect the final will be procession for the Dubs
Quote from: Schkite on December 06, 2020, 05:03:14 PM
The game was over as a contest long ago, but it's still mental to see the amount of goal chances Mayo have given up.
Tipp had 2 goal chances in first 5 minutes
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Hope I'm wrong, but suspect the final will be procession for the Dubs
Did you not watch the match? 5-20 for Mayo and Aidan O'Shea orchestrating everything.
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Quote from: Schkite on December 06, 2020, 05:03:14 PM
The game was over as a contest long ago, but it's still mental to see the amount of goal chances Mayo have given up.
Tipp had 2 goal chances in first 5 minutes
I know yeah, the worrying thing for Mayo is the fact Tipp got goal chances like that when the game was still in the balance. Still, over the course of the game Tipp still got through with ease multiple times.
Mayo into their 5th AI final in 8 years. Full time Mayo 5-20 Tipperary 3-13. Tipperary put some respectability on the scoreboard by winning the 2nd half 2-8 to 1-8 but let's be honest because Mayo eased off 2nd half.
4-9 for Cillian O'Connor some scoring in AI semi finals don't need to know which Mayo forward will Dublin give the most attention too.
Big win for Mayo. Put up a huge score. The fly in the ointment is that Tipp scored 3 goals and it could easily have been 6 or 7.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on December 06, 2020, 05:08:00 PM
Big win for Mayo. Put up a huge score. The fly in the ointment is that Tipp scored 3 goals and it could easily have been 6 or 7.
The Gauromydas heros in the ointment is Dublin!
Quote from: sid waddell on December 06, 2020, 05:02:16 PM
I'm not sure how hard Lee Keegan actually tried to stop Conor Sweeney there but he was done up like a kipper all the same
It's hard to think his place could be under threat for the final, but maybe it should be
definitely should be. Looks a shadow of the player that used to bully Connolly.
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Quote from: sid waddell on December 06, 2020, 05:02:16 PM
I'm not sure how hard Lee Keegan actually tried to stop Conor Sweeney there but he was done up like a kipper all the same
It's hard to think his place could be under threat for the final, but maybe it should be
definitely should be. Looks a shadow of the player that used to bully Connolly.
Lee is 31 now! Had serious hip surgery a couple of years ago. Serious millage on the clock.
He took Michael Quinlivan out of the game hook line and sinker, and only ended up on Sweeney for musical chairs when all the subs came in.
Plenty of life left in that dog just yet.
He will assigned Ciaran Kilkenny for sure in the final. I wouldnt back against Keegan in that battle still.
Quote from: thewobbler on December 06, 2020, 06:36:08 PM
He took Michael Quinlivan out of the game hook line and sinker, and only ended up on Sweeney for musical chairs when all the subs came in.
Plenty of life left in that dog just yet.
He will assigned Ciaran Kilkenny for sure in the final. I wouldnt back against Keegan in that battle still.
Quinlivan had one gilt edged goal chance and created another in the first few minutes, Tipp scored a goal through the middle not long after that
If you give that to Dublin, they'll bury those chances
Keegan was destroyed by Con O'Callaghan last year
There is a huge difference between man marking playmakers like Kilkenny and Connolly and man marking out and out scoring forwards like Quinlivan and O'Callaghan
In those previous battles Keegan carried a real attacking threat himself which put Kilkenny and Connolly on the back foot
He carries little to no attacking threat if he's marking O'Callaghan again
Brendan Harrison is a massive loss to Mayo because he would have done that job
He's Tipperary's key player and he touched the ball half a dozen times and contributed next to nothing. If you're writing off that as a defensive contribution, then you must give most defenders 4/10 or worse every week.
Harrison's form started dropping like a stone two years ago. He wouldn't get within a fart's whiff of that Mayo team at present.
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Quote from: thewobbler on December 06, 2020, 06:36:08 PM
He took Michael Quinlivan out of the game hook line and sinker, and only ended up on Sweeney for musical chairs when all the subs came in.
Plenty of life left in that dog just yet.
He will assigned Ciaran Kilkenny for sure in the final. I wouldnt back against Keegan in that battle still.
Quinlivan had one gilt edged goal chance and created another in the first few minutes, Tipp scored a goal through the middle not long after that
Also hauled Quinlivan down as he bore down on goal with another professional foul.
Quinlivan didn't get much ball but on another day he could easily have had 2 goals.
And got a black card.
That's why the rule is in place.
Quote from: thewobbler on December 06, 2020, 06:59:48 PM
And got a black card.
That's why the rule is in place.
Not sure rugby tackles are considered good defending these days although we seem to be seeing more of them in the game so maybe they are.
Quote from: thewobbler on December 06, 2020, 06:52:32 PM
He's Tipperary's key player and he touched the ball half a dozen times and contributed next to nothing. If you're writing off that as a defensive contribution, then you must give most defenders 4/10 or worse every week.
Harrison's form started dropping like a stone two years ago. He wouldn't get within a fart's whiff of that Mayo team at present.
Harrison is a very good player and would be a massive plus for Mayo if they had him
Mayo's dominance came from out the pitch, they brutalised Tipperary like they did to Donegal in 2013, once the second goal went in the game was over as a contest
I've no doubt Keegan still has it in him to produce a big final because ultimately he is a class player and big players tend to rise to the occasion but to suggest he's currently anywhere near his form of 2016/17 would be ludicrous
some display from o'connor. maybe the best scoring display i've seen in croke park in many many years. thought mayo's overall pace and movement in attack was spectacular.
obviously, their own defence came apart a bit too easily and if tipp had been any better at finishing, they'd have put a few goals past them. i do think mayo went to sleep a bit in the second half though and i think they'll be a lot tighter the next day against dublin. i think they backed themselves to win a shootout today and that's what they did.
keegan had a good game in my opinion. the black card offence was absolutely the right move - take one for the team.
Disappointing one sided semi final. Mayo was on a different level to what Tipperary faced this year in league and championship and simply couldn't match their intensity or pace. Mayo had the match won after 20 minutes and killed Tipp on the turnovers.
Wouldn't read much into the 2nd half, Mayo had eased off and cleared their bench and are in good shape going into the final with key players in top form.
Nice to be back in a final again. Very impressive forward play throughout the game. Defence a major worry. Great saves by Clarke early on, had those two goals gone in it would be a different story.
Mayos 5-20 is the highest ever score a team produced in All Ireland semi final.
Quote from: WhoDat on December 06, 2020, 07:30:34 PM
some display from o'connor. maybe the best scoring display i've seen in croke park in many many years. thought mayo's overall pace and movement in attack was spectacular.
obviously, their own defence came apart a bit too easily and if tipp had been any better at finishing, they'd have put a few goals past them. i do think mayo went to sleep a bit in the second half though and i think they'll be a lot tighter the next day against dublin. i think they backed themselves to win a shootout today and that's what they did.
keegan had a good game in my opinion. the black card offence was absolutely the right move - take one for the team.
except it was not a black a#card offence . of which there were plaenty . keegan swung him rounf by the hips to put hime off but for it to be a legitimate lack card offence you need to trip or drag the player down.
You can have refs make up rules as they go on.
plus he have 2 hop ball when frees were taken from from ethe wrong place. fai enough but then ignored it for the rest of the match.
shocking performance from Gough.
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Quote from: WhoDat on December 06, 2020, 07:30:34 PM
some display from o'connor. maybe the best scoring display i've seen in croke park in many many years. thought mayo's overall pace and movement in attack was spectacular.
obviously, their own defence came apart a bit too easily and if tipp had been any better at finishing, they'd have put a few goals past them. i do think mayo went to sleep a bit in the second half though and i think they'll be a lot tighter the next day against dublin. i think they backed themselves to win a shootout today and that's what they did.
keegan had a good game in my opinion. the black card offence was absolutely the right move - take one for the team.
except it was not a black a#card offence . of which there were plaenty . keegan swung him rounf by the hips to put hime off but for it to be a legitimate lack card offence you need to trip or drag the player down.
You can have refs make up rules as they go on.
plus he have 2 hop ball when frees were taken from from ethe wrong place. fai enough but then ignored it for the rest of the match.
shocking performance from Gough.
The rule books states deliberately pull down an opponent which Keegan was guilt of, clear black card; Not even debateable.
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 06, 2020, 08:54:26 PM
Mayos 5-20 is the highest ever score a team produced in All Ireland semi final.
Certainly dispells the myth Mayo have no forwards. Cillian is up with one of the greatest forwards of all time.