Quite a stroke by Mr Prenty to locate this in Ballyhaunis >:(
The Connacht Council of the GAA have welcomed the news that their proposed new €10m Centre of Excellence has successfully come through the planning process.
Last month, Mayo County Council granted permission for the project, and the 30-day period has now elapsed during which any objectors can appeal to An Bord Pleanála.
No appeals have been lodged which means the Council can now commence preparations for making the Centre of Excellence dream a reality.
'We are absolutely delighted with this news. It means we can progress our plans now to build the first provincial GAA Centre of Excellence in the country, and the benefits will be felt by young sportspeople and their mentors all over the province,' said Connacht GAA Secretary John Prenty.
'The permission granted to us by Mayo County Council involves us scaling back our plans in some areas, and we are happy to do that. We addressed worries expressed by local residents in the area and everything is now in place.'
The Council purchased a 60-acre site at Cloonacurry, Bekan - on the Knock-Ballyhaunis road - and Mr Prenty said preparations would begin immediately.
'Contract prices have reduced substantially in recent times, so we should get good value now,' he said.
The centre will feature six outdoor GAA pitches, a 900-seater stand on the main pitch, a state-of-the-art indoor pitch, gymnasium, and related facilities.
'We expect to start advertising for tenders for the work in the coming weeks, and we would hope to have work commenced by late autumn,' added Mr Prenty.
Money generated by rugby and soccer internationals in Croke Park has been earmarked for the project.
'The big winners in this project will be young people from all over the province. The centre is ideally located in the middle of the province, and we now look forward to a day soon when the Centre is used on a daily basis,' said Mr Prenty.
'It is a historic time for the GAA in Connacht. We would hope to have the project completed by 2012.'
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on August 20, 2009, 03:47:35 PM
Quite a stroke by Mr Prenty to locate this in Ballyhaunis >:(
The Connacht Council of the GAA have welcomed the news that their proposed new €10m Centre of Excellence has successfully come through the planning process.
Last month, Mayo County Council granted permission for the project, and the 30-day period has now elapsed during which any objectors can appeal to An Bord Pleanála.
No appeals have been lodged which means the Council can now commence preparations for making the Centre of Excellence dream a reality.
'We are absolutely delighted with this news. It means we can progress our plans now to build the first provincial GAA Centre of Excellence in the country, and the benefits will be felt by young sportspeople and their mentors all over the province,' said Connacht GAA Secretary John Prenty.
'The permission granted to us by Mayo County Council involves us scaling back our plans in some areas, and we are happy to do that. We addressed worries expressed by local residents in the area and everything is now in place.'
The Council purchased a 60-acre site at Cloonacurry, Bekan - on the Knock-Ballyhaunis road - and Mr Prenty said preparations would begin immediately.
'Contract prices have reduced substantially in recent times, so we should get good value now,' he said.
The centre will feature six outdoor GAA pitches, a 900-seater stand on the main pitch, a state-of-the-art indoor pitch, gymnasium, and related facilities.
'We expect to start advertising for tenders for the work in the coming weeks, and we would hope to have work commenced by late autumn,' added Mr Prenty.
Money generated by rugby and soccer internationals in Croke Park has been earmarked for the project.
'The big winners in this project will be young people from all over the province. The centre is ideally located in the middle of the province, and we now look forward to a day soon when the Centre is used on a daily basis,' said Mr Prenty.
'It is a historic time for the GAA in Connacht. We would hope to have the project completed by 2012.'
can only be good news for connacht teams with great underage players comming through.......
& whats your problem with the location? did you want it in salthill? it's pretty much in centre connacht (castlerea is middle) so long as it's far away from the smelly meat factory in ballyhaunis it should be fine :D
I cant see any fault in the location at all, there are 4 clubs in mayo which will be as far away from it as any club in galway
it should be on Innis Oirr!
Its not in Ballyhaunis anyway...its a couple of minutes outside Knock.
Quote from: GBXII on August 20, 2009, 04:53:27 PM
Its not in Ballyhaunis anyway...its a couple of minutes outside Knock.
it's sure to be blessed so ;)
Its in Bekan, pronounced Bacon. I hope its up quickly because it will be a massive asset to the county province.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on August 20, 2009, 11:11:32 PM
Its in Bekan, pronounced Bacon. I hope its up quickly because it will be a massive asset to the county province.
haha
build it and
they Sam will come
I know its a long way before any players will actually be attendiing this facility, but how does the selection process usually work for these type of Centres?
Are young players to be hand picked from trials a la underage county teams or will each club put names forward?
Anyone there who has played underage football for their county or been involved in club or county management in the province reckon this will work as a major benefit to Connacht football. Will it help to foster a more winning Connacht style & mentality of football in what is truely in my opinion the most beautiful and best part of Ireland to live. Love the West so much I'm listening to i 102 - 104 on mp laptop here in Melbourne. Heres hoping we will be on here with the Sheepstealers, Heron Chokers & Sligo lads (any Leitrims here!) slagging each other on how many more leagues & ALL-IRELANDS (more esp.) at SENIOR, U-21, Minor & Club we have won in very recent times.
UP THE WEST
Leitrim are building a centre of excellence in annaduff, but it seems stalled. Sligo have one planned. I personnally would prefer individual county ones if feasible. Its over over 1.5hrs to Ballyhaunis from North Sligo, not really feasible for the whole of Connacht IMO, just too far from the outskirts of the province. Mayo will get best use of it, South Sligo, west Roscommon and North Galway too. Tyrones Centre of excellence is worth a look. I think Sligo need to be self serving and get our one up and built asap.
If everywhere has a centre of excellence, does excellence become the norm? What comes after excellence?
Quote from: ludermor on August 20, 2009, 04:37:30 PM
I cant see any fault in the location at all, there are 4 clubs in mayo which will be as far away from it as any club in galway
To be honest I dont really have any problem, its fairly central, just that bo**** Prenty seems to happy knack of getting "Connacht" facilities built on his door step i.e. the connacht gaa council gaa offices are located in Ballyhaunis also.
Quote from: Hardy on August 21, 2009, 08:46:30 AM
If everywhere has a centre of excellence, does excellence become the norm? What comes after excellence?
Perfection.
Who's going to pay for it?
CONNACHT CENTRE OF EXCELLENCE??
an oxymoron surely?
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on August 21, 2009, 09:09:59 AM
Quote from: ludermor on August 20, 2009, 04:37:30 PM
I cant see any fault in the location at all, there are 4 clubs in mayo which will be as far away from it as any club in galway
To be honest I dont really have any problem, its fairly central, just that bo**** Prenty seems to happy knack of getting "Connacht" facilities built on his door step i.e. the connacht gaa council gaa offices are located in Ballyhaunis also.
Fair enough and you do have a point!
Just take out the 'oxy' and you have a word that descrides yourself perfectly talktothehand ;)
lol touche! was waiting for that one and you didn't disappoint
Like GallimhIarthair I would have more of an issue with Prenty working in a capacity for the Connacht council and having a knack of looking over his own patch than the location itself.
How will each county's time allowed to use the facitly be determined? Hopefully Prenty isn't over that or some of us will never get a look in
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on August 20, 2009, 11:11:32 PM
Its in Bekan, pronounced Bacon. I hope its up quickly because it will be a massive asset to the county province.
Isn't that Eastern Gaels catchment area? They might use it most and move swiftly up the ranks to Senior level in Mayo!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 21, 2009, 02:41:48 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on August 20, 2009, 11:11:32 PM
Its in Bekan, pronounced Bacon. I hope its up quickly because it will be a massive asset to the county province.
Isn't that Eastern Gaels catchment area? They might use it most and move swiftly up the ranks to Senior level in Mayo!
Yeah its the Gaels area but I don't see them moving up to senior! If they do, Prenty will be the GAA equivalent of Roman Abromovich!
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 21, 2009, 08:25:22 AM
Leitrim are building a centre of excellence in annaduff, but it seems stalled. Sligo have one planned. I personnally would prefer individual county ones if feasible. Its over over 1.5hrs to Ballyhaunis from North Sligo, not really feasible for the whole of Connacht IMO, just too far from the outskirts of the province. Mayo will get best use of it, South Sligo, west Roscommon and North Galway too. Tyrones Centre of excellence is worth a look. I think Sligo need to be self serving and get our one up and built asap.
It is being located at the
centre of Connacht! Exactly half way between Sligo and Galway, and halfway between Westport and Roscommon, and you are complaining because it
is too far from the outskirts of the province. There is just no pleasing some people !!
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on August 21, 2009, 07:14:05 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 21, 2009, 02:41:48 PM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on August 20, 2009, 11:11:32 PM
Its in Bekan, pronounced Bacon. I hope its up quickly because it will be a massive asset to the county province.
Isn't that Eastern Gaels catchment area? They might use it most and move swiftly up the ranks to Senior level in Mayo!
Eastern Gaels went up to Intermediate from Junior last year, but have struggled this year at that level. It didn't help that they have played most of the season without a bainisteoir.
Yeah its the Gaels area but I don't see them moving up to senior! If they do, Prenty will be the GAA equivalent of Roman Abromovich!
Quote from: western exile on August 21, 2009, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 21, 2009, 08:25:22 AM
Leitrim are building a centre of excellence in annaduff, but it seems stalled. Sligo have one planned. I personnally would prefer individual county ones if feasible. Its over over 1.5hrs to Ballyhaunis from North Sligo, not really feasible for the whole of Connacht IMO, just too far from the outskirts of the province. Mayo will get best use of it, South Sligo, west Roscommon and North Galway too. Tyrones Centre of excellence is worth a look. I think Sligo need to be self serving and get our one up and built asap.
It is being located at the centre of Connacht! Exactly half way between Sligo and Galway, and halfway between Westport and Roscommon, and you are complaining because it is too far from the outskirts of the province. There is just no pleasing some people !!
This doesnt please me, how would it, mayo will get best use out of it, no argument there, I am from outskirts of Connacht so thats my reality, Im looking at it from the Sligo point of view and players from North Sligo. Is that unfair of me ::). County Sligo doenst end in Sligo town btw. This Centre should be downgraded and money saved given to each other county. Then id be satisfied. Its far too convenient for mayo and I dont like the way its been proposed, why dont they just call it mayo centre of excellence. With county expenses going through the roof even if we wanted to can you see Sligo using it much, its another 40-60 mins past Tubbercurry and over the year that would add massively to costs and can you see us sending underage teams there, rarely id say, the only cost we would save is Kevin Walshs mileage allowance...thats the Sligo view.
This is a joke. Every county should have their own centre of excellence. This will cost €10 million. Could €2 million not be given to each county to help develop facilities in each. What will happen on Saturdays when every county will want to use the facilities at the same time? I cant see Mayo training on one pitch and galway on the pitch beside it. ???
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 22, 2009, 05:07:52 AM
Quote from: western exile on August 21, 2009, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 21, 2009, 08:25:22 AM
Leitrim are building a centre of excellence in annaduff, but it seems stalled. Sligo have one planned. I personnally would prefer individual county ones if feasible. Its over over 1.5hrs to Ballyhaunis from North Sligo, not really feasible for the whole of Connacht IMO, just too far from the outskirts of the province. Mayo will get best use of it, South Sligo, west Roscommon and North Galway too. Tyrones Centre of excellence is worth a look. I think Sligo need to be self serving and get our one up and built asap.
It is being located at the centre of Connacht! Exactly half way between Sligo and Galway, and halfway between Westport and Roscommon, and you are complaining because it is too far from the outskirts of the province. There is just no pleasing some people !!
This doesnt please me, how would it, mayo will get best use out of it, no argument there, I am from outskirts of Connacht so thats my reality, Im looking at it from the Sligo point of view and players from North Sligo. Is that unfair of me ::). County Sligo doenst end in Sligo town btw. This Centre should be downgraded and money saved given to each other county. Then id be satisfied. Its far too convenient for mayo and I dont like the way its been proposed, why dont they just call it mayo centre of excellence. With county expenses going through the roof even if we wanted to can you see Sligo using it much, its another 40-60 mins past Tubbercurry and over the year that would add massively to costs and can you see us sending underage teams there, rarely id say, the only cost we would save is Kevin Walshs mileage allowance...thats the Sligo view.
Thsts your view. There are places in mayo further away from it than any part of sligo.
Who voted for this? Were there any objections? If it is for the provence then it is in a good and fair location it would have had to end up somewhere so people are always going to give out.
Quote from: Azzurri on August 22, 2009, 02:07:14 PM
This is a joke. Every county should have their own centre of excellence. This will cost €10 million. Could €2 million not be given to each county to help develop facilities in each. What will happen on Saturdays when every county will want to use the facilities at the same time? I cant see Mayo training on one pitch and galway on the pitch beside it. ???
Would you be confident that each county board would use the money wisely?
I can't really see Galway teams using this to be honest, we have our own training centre in loughgeorge, there'd be no reason to go sending Galway teams to Ballyhaunis.
Quote from: ludermor on August 22, 2009, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: Azzurri on August 22, 2009, 02:07:14 PM
This is a joke. Every county should have their own centre of excellence. This will cost €10 million. Could €2 million not be given to each county to help develop facilities in each. What will happen on Saturdays when every county will want to use the facilities at the same time? I cant see Mayo training on one pitch and galway on the pitch beside it. ???
Would you be confident that each county board would use the money wisely?
Well in Roscommon there are already plans for a dedicated county training facility. I'd imagine Ros County Board would love to get €2 million towards the project. I just hope this isnt a Mayo training facility disguised as a Connacht Centre of Excellence. Im not sure about Sligo and Leitrim. Do Galway have seperate training facilities for the hurlers and footballers?
Quote from: Azzurri on August 22, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
Quote from: ludermor on August 22, 2009, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: Azzurri on August 22, 2009, 02:07:14 PM
This is a joke. Every county should have their own centre of excellence. This will cost €10 million. Could €2 million not be given to each county to help develop facilities in each. What will happen on Saturdays when every county will want to use the facilities at the same time? I cant see Mayo training on one pitch and galway on the pitch beside it. ???
Would you be confident that each county board would use the money wisely?
Well in Roscommon there are already plans for a dedicated county training facility. I'd imagine Ros County Board would love to get €2 million towards the project. I just hope this isnt a Mayo training facility disguised as a Connacht Centre of Excellence. Im not sure about Sligo and Leitrim. Do Galway have seperate training facilities for the hurlers and footballers?
Galway football centre opened about 18 months ago. Hurling one is under construction.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 22, 2009, 05:07:52 AM
Quote from: western exile on August 21, 2009, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 21, 2009, 08:25:22 AM
Leitrim are building a centre of excellence in annaduff, but it seems stalled. Sligo have one planned. I personnally would prefer individual county ones if feasible. Its over over 1.5hrs to Ballyhaunis from North Sligo, not really feasible for the whole of Connacht IMO, just too far from the outskirts of the province. Mayo will get best use of it, South Sligo, west Roscommon and North Galway too. Tyrones Centre of excellence is worth a look. I think Sligo need to be self serving and get our one up and built asap.
It is being located at the centre of Connacht! Exactly half way between Sligo and Galway, and halfway between Westport and Roscommon, and you are complaining because it is too far from the outskirts of the province. There is just no pleasing some people !!
This doesnt please me, how would it, mayo will get best use out of it, no argument there, I am from outskirts of Connacht so thats my reality, Im looking at it from the Sligo point of view and players from North Sligo. Is that unfair of me ::). County Sligo doenst end in Sligo town btw. This Centre should be downgraded and money saved given to each other county. Then id be satisfied. Its far too convenient for mayo and I dont like the way its been proposed, why dont they just call it mayo centre of excellence. With county expenses going through the roof even if we wanted to can you see Sligo using it much, its another 40-60 mins past Tubbercurry and over the year that would add massively to costs and can you see us sending underage teams there, rarely id say, the only cost we would save is Kevin Walshs mileage allowance...thats the Sligo view.
Bellaghy (wait for the usual reply) is only 17 miles from Bekan and Sligo football is centred in the south of the county so its actually nearer for most of yer football heartland than it is for us. The Ulster football centre is in Monaghan afaik, hardly central. If Sligo put a centre in Tubbercurry, the most suitable location, you'd still be at a disadvantage so your point is moot.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on August 22, 2009, 04:35:19 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 22, 2009, 05:07:52 AM
Quote from: western exile on August 21, 2009, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 21, 2009, 08:25:22 AM
Leitrim are building a centre of excellence in annaduff, but it seems stalled. Sligo have one planned. I personnally would prefer individual county ones if feasible. Its over over 1.5hrs to Ballyhaunis from North Sligo, not really feasible for the whole of Connacht IMO, just too far from the outskirts of the province. Mayo will get best use of it, South Sligo, west Roscommon and North Galway too. Tyrones Centre of excellence is worth a look. I think Sligo need to be self serving and get our one up and built asap.
It is being located at the centre of Connacht! Exactly half way between Sligo and Galway, and halfway between Westport and Roscommon, and you are complaining because it is too far from the outskirts of the province. There is just no pleasing some people !!
This doesnt please me, how would it, mayo will get best use out of it, no argument there, I am from outskirts of Connacht so thats my reality, Im looking at it from the Sligo point of view and players from North Sligo. Is that unfair of me ::). County Sligo doenst end in Sligo town btw. This Centre should be downgraded and money saved given to each other county. Then id be satisfied. Its far too convenient for mayo and I dont like the way its been proposed, why dont they just call it mayo centre of excellence. With county expenses going through the roof even if we wanted to can you see Sligo using it much, its another 40-60 mins past Tubbercurry and over the year that would add massively to costs and can you see us sending underage teams there, rarely id say, the only cost we would save is Kevin Walshs mileage allowance...thats the Sligo view.
Bellaghy (wait for the usual reply) is only 17 miles from Bekan and Sligo football is centred in the south of the county so its actually nearer for most of yer football heartland than it is for us. The Ulster football centre is in Monaghan afaik, hardly central. If Sligo put a centre in Tubbercurry, the most suitable location, you'd still be at a disadvantage so your point is moot.
Sad sad uneducated wind up post. Does not reflect well on you. Lecturing moi on Sligo Football ::). There are 5 North Sligo Senior clubs in our Qtr Finals of SFC. Sligo had 7 of the starting 15 against Kerry from North Sligo so stick that in your pipe... the centre of Sligo is near the south of the town before Balymote IMO. Wrong on a few thing there sniper, you stuck in a time warp, Times change and balance of power is no longer in the south of the county at any age.
Quote from: ludermor on August 22, 2009, 02:08:38 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 22, 2009, 05:07:52 AM
Quote from: western exile on August 21, 2009, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 21, 2009, 08:25:22 AM
Leitrim are building a centre of excellence in annaduff, but it seems stalled. Sligo have one planned. I personnally would prefer individual county ones if feasible. Its over over 1.5hrs to Ballyhaunis from North Sligo, not really feasible for the whole of Connacht IMO, just too far from the outskirts of the province. Mayo will get best use of it, South Sligo, west Roscommon and North Galway too. Tyrones Centre of excellence is worth a look. I think Sligo need to be self serving and get our one up and built asap.
It is being located at the centre of Connacht! Exactly half way between Sligo and Galway, and halfway between Westport and Roscommon, and you are complaining because it is too far from the outskirts of the province. There is just no pleasing some people !!
This doesnt please me, how would it, mayo will get best use out of it, no argument there, I am from outskirts of Connacht so thats my reality, Im looking at it from the Sligo point of view and players from North Sligo. Is that unfair of me ::). County Sligo doenst end in Sligo town btw. This Centre should be downgraded and money saved given to each other county. Then id be satisfied. Its far too convenient for mayo and I dont like the way its been proposed, why dont they just call it mayo centre of excellence. With county expenses going through the roof even if we wanted to can you see Sligo using it much, its another 40-60 mins past Tubbercurry and over the year that would add massively to costs and can you see us sending underage teams there, rarely id say, the only cost we would save is Kevin Walshs mileage allowance...thats the Sligo view.
Thsts your view. There are places in mayo further away from it than any part of sligo.
Who voted for this? Were there any objections? If it is for the provence then it is in a good and fair location it would have had to end up somewhere so people are always going to give out.
I think me and the Ross lads are on the same wave length, the Galway lads dont care because they already have the facilities. Look we are not argunig that its the centre of Connacht, but all were saying is we wont use it, Leitrim wont and Roscommon wont and Galway wont use it, so dont dress it up as centre for connacht, Go back to the drawing board and down grade to 3 or 4 million centre, then give Sligo,leitrim and Roscommon 2 million each and then we will be happy ;).
I looked up the dictionary..........
Sligonian
–adjective
1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.
2. characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 22, 2009, 05:10:18 PM
Sad sad uneducated wind up post. Does not reflect well on you. Lecturing moi on Sligo Football ::). There are 5 North Sligo Senior clubs in our Qtr Finals of SFC. Sligo had 7 of the starting 15 against Kerry from North Sligo so stick that in your pipe... the centre of Sligo is near the south of the town before Balymote IMO. Wrong on a few thing there sniper, you stuck in a time warp, Times change and balance of power is no longer in the south of the county at any age.
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Oh I forgot, you know everything. How foolish of me. My most sincere apologies. If you know so much so amigo tell me would you trust the Sligo County Board, who you spend so much time dishing, to spend this €2million you request on the appropriate facilities? Also what are you going to be able to build for €2million? A couple of pitches and a modest clubhouse. The Connacht Centre should be a great asset for all counties, a lot of economies of scale will come into play. A full-size indoord pitch will be great for the entire province. It's just your bad luck that you're practically living in Bundoran.
And on that point anyone from Belmullet, Achill or Louisburgh would probably be further away. Build a bridge.
Quote from: western exile on August 22, 2009, 07:28:02 PM
I looked up the dictionary..........
Sligonian
–adjective
1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.
2. characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives.
Ya I only care about Sligo :o, whats your point? That I should care about mayo, and other counties, give me a break. This is mayo pretending to care about the whole of Connacht but really its looking after no 1, not only have ye stolen bellaghy and ballaghdereen but now yere stealing funds from Croke park. So its very hypocritical calling a Sligonian selfish, have a look at oneself, is that possible for a mayoman?
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on August 22, 2009, 08:03:49 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 22, 2009, 05:10:18 PM
Sad sad uneducated wind up post. Does not reflect well on you. Lecturing moi on Sligo Football ::). There are 5 North Sligo Senior clubs in our Qtr Finals of SFC. Sligo had 7 of the starting 15 against Kerry from North Sligo so stick that in your pipe... the centre of Sligo is near the south of the town before Balymote IMO. Wrong on a few thing there sniper, you stuck in a time warp, Times change and balance of power is no longer in the south of the county at any age.
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Oh I forgot, you know everything. How foolish of me. My most sincere apologies. If you know so much so amigo tell me would you trust the Sligo County Board, who you spend so much time dishing, to spend this €2million you request on the appropriate facilities? Also what are you going to be able to build for €2million? A couple of pitches and a modest clubhouse. The Connacht Centre should be a great asset for all counties, a lot of economies of scale will come into play. A full-size indoord pitch will be great for the entire province. It's just your bad luck that you're practically living in Bundoran.
And on that point anyone from Belmullet, Achill or Louisburgh would probably be further away. Build a bridge.
The spin doctor is back, completely ignores my last post tearing his logic to shreds, then in an attempt to deflect that he knows NOTHING about Sligo football he say "oh I forgot you know everything" well where did Sligonian say that ::), i will admit i know a hell of lot more about Sligo football than you ;), but I wouldnt attempt to lecture mayo people about mayo football.
Then he goes on about my County Board dishing, well I know who are the ones serving Sligo Football in the County Board, and lucky for us the treasurer is one of them, you only have to look at Club SLigo to know that, I wouldnt have joined that if I thought my money would be wasted, so therefore 2 million im sure he'd and few others would put it to good use. Lets be specific sniper, you tend to be very selective and twisting in your posts to suit your agenda. If you go back I was pretty specific in my criticisms and never once criticised the treasurer. Structures, processes are slightly different topics ;) its fair to say.
Have you contradicted yourself on your last point sniper, you were telling me south Sligo is the football heartland and we should build our centre in Tubbercurry, well isnt your football heartland north east mayo im thinking, so ballyhaunis wouldnt to bad a location for ye despite your spin on achill, belmullet etc....being so far away, i doubt ye'll lose any sleep over that. If yer were building yer own which IMO ye are, it would most still be built in Ballyhaunis its fair to say.
Oh and watch now as all the mayolads leach on to the words Bellaghy and Ballaghdereen...... :D and ignore the rest of my post. Well sniper you used for your point first ;)....and it fits nicely into my point.
Tell me, why have Mayo CB not developed their own training facilities?
Oh yeah, cause they blew a load of money from Croke Park on the McHale Park redevelopment and now there is no more money for Mayo.
So, they secure funding for a Connacht Centre and locate it in Mayo. Genius
What teams are going to use this facility? teams from Mayo, maybe the odd North Roscommon development paenl. It will be mainly used for playing colleges, 3rd level games and underage blitzes.
Waste of money
Rossies are in no position to be lecturing anyone on how to manage finances - it wasn't the Mayo CB that had Croke Park officials come in to look after the pennies not so long ago
How does the Connacht Council work? Representatives from all 5 Counties. Same structure as County Board.
Whats the breakdown on each counties representatives? How much longer has prenty in the hotseat and can he be re elected continously?
There is a perception in Sligo that, Mayo and Galway vote the same, Leitrim and Roscommon vote against each other at this level...is that true?
Who iniatated this project, why did the other reps agree? Id like to see the feasibility study showing me the breakdown of predicted county usage and teams?
I would obviously like to ask CC why not downgrade and help out other countys planned centres? If this is built would CC still support individual counties building smaller scale centres?
Is the whole 10 million going towards the centre or is some of it being used to pay off mchale park, transparency?
Just questions IMO and if Mr Prenty has nothing to hide im sure he'd answer them.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 23, 2009, 11:02:57 AM
Is the whole 10 million going towards the centre or is some of it being used to pay off mchale park, transparency?
Just questions IMO and if Mr Prenty has nothing to hide im sure he'd answer them.
First off, I think it's a ludicrous to suggest that some of the money is being used to pay off McHale park redevelopment - if that was even suggested it would have caused such a furore it would have been plastered all over the media
Secondly - what makes you think John Prenty is going to answer questions posed by an anonymous character on a discussion board, contact your own County Boards CC rep to get an answer
Quote from: stephenite on August 23, 2009, 11:30:16 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 23, 2009, 11:02:57 AM
Is the whole 10 million going towards the centre or is some of it being used to pay off mchale park, transparency?
Just questions IMO and if Mr Prenty has nothing to hide im sure he'd answer them.
First off, I think it's a ludicrous to suggest that some of the money is being used to pay off McHale park redevelopment - if that was even suggested it would have caused such a furore it would have been plastered all over the media
Secondly - what makes you think John Prenty is going to answer questions posed by an anonymous character on a discussion board, contact your own County Boards CC rep to get an answer
Come off your high horse, will ya, asking for transparency of every penny earmarked for this project is my right, is it not? Ya I will admit there is a lack of trust there from my side, but it is a reasonable request IMO. In prenty quotes he mentions the recessionary prices and value for money. 10 million has been earmarked and lets say the tenders come back and 3 contractors price it at 8 million, Where does the other 2 million go?
Also I will ask Sligo Connacht Council representative in due course.....dont worry.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 23, 2009, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: stephenite on August 23, 2009, 11:30:16 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 23, 2009, 11:02:57 AM
Is the whole 10 million going towards the centre or is some of it being used to pay off mchale park, transparency?
Just questions IMO and if Mr Prenty has nothing to hide im sure he'd answer them.
First off, I think it's a ludicrous to suggest that some of the money is being used to pay off McHale park redevelopment - if that was even suggested it would have caused such a furore it would have been plastered all over the media
Secondly - what makes you think John Prenty is going to answer questions posed by an anonymous character on a discussion board, contact your own County Boards CC rep to get an answer
Come off your high horse, will ya, asking for transparency of every penny earmarked for this project is my right, is it not? Ya I will admit there is a lack of trust there from my side, but it is a reasonable request IMO. In prenty quotes he mentions the recessionary prices and value for money. 10 million has been earmarked and lets say the tenders come back and 3 contractors price it at 8 million, Where does the other 2 million go?
Also I will ask Sligo Connacht Council representative in due course.....dont worry.
Not on any horse - but if you can't see that it's a pretty unlikely scenario, that other counties would agree to Mayo using some of the money for their own benefit, than I'm not going to engage you on why you think it's a reasonable request.
Do let us know what your rep says - I won't worry
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Just a quick question - do any other provinces have or plan to have provincial centres of excellence?
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 12:37:34 PM
Just a quick question - do any other provinces have or plan to have provincial centres of excellence?
I think Ulster have one - it would make more sense for each county to have their own smaller centre though
Quote from: stephenite on August 23, 2009, 12:34:50 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 23, 2009, 12:17:44 PM
Quote from: stephenite on August 23, 2009, 11:30:16 AM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 23, 2009, 11:02:57 AM
Is the whole 10 million going towards the centre or is some of it being used to pay off mchale park, transparency?
Just questions IMO and if Mr Prenty has nothing to hide im sure he'd answer them.
First off, I think it's a ludicrous to suggest that some of the money is being used to pay off McHale park redevelopment - if that was even suggested it would have caused such a furore it would have been plastered all over the media
Secondly - what makes you think John Prenty is going to answer questions posed by an anonymous character on a discussion board, contact your own County Boards CC rep to get an answer
Come off your high horse, will ya, asking for transparency of every penny earmarked for this project is my right, is it not? Ya I will admit there is a lack of trust there from my side, but it is a reasonable request IMO. In prenty quotes he mentions the recessionary prices and value for money. 10 million has been earmarked and lets say the tenders come back and 3 contractors price it at 8 million, Where does the other 2 million go?
Also I will ask Sligo Connacht Council representative in due course.....dont worry.
Not on any horse - but if you can't see that it's a pretty unlikely scenario, that other counties would agree to Mayo using some of the money for their own benefit, than I'm not going to engage you on why you think it's a reasonable request.
Do let us know what your rep says - I won't worry
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Ya but I find it hard to believe that they agreed to it in the first place at such a cost. We clearly dont know the full facts surrounding it
Quote from: stephenite on August 23, 2009, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 12:37:34 PM
Just a quick question - do any other provinces have or plan to have provincial centres of excellence?
I think Ulster have one - it would make more sense for each county to have their own smaller centre though
Ya Ulster have one, Tyrone have one planned aswell. So you agree with me Stephenite?
I agree that it's not needed as a facility for the province, and the money would be better spent developing smaller centres in each county - with the money being divided properly, not a 5 way split but based on playing numbers.
I disagree that there is some hidden agenda whereby the Mayo County Board profit from any extra funds left over.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 23, 2009, 05:28:32 AM
Oh I forgot, you know everything. How foolish of me. My most sincere apologies. If you know so much so amigo tell me would you trust the Sligo County Board, who you spend so much time dishing, to spend this €2million you request on the appropriate facilities? Also what are you going to be able to build for €2million? A couple of pitches and a modest clubhouse. The Connacht Centre should be a great asset for all counties, a lot of economies of scale will come into play. A full-size indoord pitch will be great for the entire province. It's just your bad luck that you're practically living in Bundoran.
And on that point anyone from Belmullet, Achill or Louisburgh would probably be further away. Build a bridge.
The spin doctor is back, completely ignores my last post tearing his logic to shreds, then in an attempt to deflect that he knows NOTHING about Sligo football he say "oh I forgot you know everything" well where did Sligonian say that ::), i will admit i know a hell of lot more about Sligo football than you ;), but I wouldnt attempt to lecture mayo people about mayo football.
Then he goes on about my County Board dishing, well I know who are the ones serving Sligo Football in the County Board, and lucky for us the treasurer is one of them, you only have to look at Club SLigo to know that, I wouldnt have joined that if I thought my money would be wasted, so therefore 2 million im sure he'd and few others would put it to good use. Lets be specific sniper, you tend to be very selective and twisting in your posts to suit your agenda. If you go back I was pretty specific in my criticisms and never once criticised the treasurer. Structures, processes are slightly different topics ;) its fair to say.
Have you contradicted yourself on your last point sniper, you were telling me south Sligo is the football heartland and we should build our centre in Tubbercurry, well isnt your football heartland north east mayo im thinking, so ballyhaunis wouldnt to bad a location for ye despite your spin on achill, belmullet etc....being so far away, i doubt ye'll lose any sleep over that. If yer were building yer own which IMO ye are, it would most still be built in Ballyhaunis its fair to say.
Oh and watch now as all the mayolads leach on to the words Bellaghy and Ballaghdereen...... :D and ignore the rest of my post. Well sniper you used for your point first ;)....and it fits nicely into my point.
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You really are a funny guy. :D You give out about me apparently lecturing you on Sligo football, and I'll acknowledge south Sligo may not be the centre of Sligo football anymore if you say so, but then you reckon you know where a Mayo centre would be put - Ballyhaunis :D
It's two miles from Roscommon and Sligo town is nearer to it than Crossmolina, the strongest club of the modern age in Mayo. Yeah that would be a great strategic location for it. Somewhere like Castlebar or Foxford would be where a Mayo centre would be put. You clearly don't know your Mayo geography so don't attempt to lecture me on it :P
The Sligo County Board treasurer is a good man? Fair play to him. Really think he's going to have the final say on funding for a centre? Very naive. Secretary and chairman are the powerbrokers, along with possibly a central council delegate. You never answered me about what 2million could build. Economies of scale in Bekan play a huge part.
Also your suggestion that some money will be redirected towards McHale Park? Do you really think something like that would be let under the table by other counties?
Bellaghy and Ballagh'? I won't get there except to say that Ballagh has always been Mayo and stop giving out about Bellaghy after the horse has bolted. Concentrate on what you can change.
Just a quick little question for Sligonian who can't comprehend the fact that Tom Parsons wears the green and red. Do you know of any Mayo man who put a loaded gun to his head to play with Mayo?? Honestly I want an answer to this question.
Quote from: stephenite on August 23, 2009, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 12:37:34 PM
Just a quick question - do any other provinces have or plan to have provincial centres of excellence?
I think Ulster have one - it would make more sense for each county to have their own smaller centre though
Where is the Ulster one? There should be no such thing as provincial ones unless the Railway Cup preparation is taken a lot more seriously!
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: stephenite on August 23, 2009, 12:41:32 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 23, 2009, 12:37:34 PM
Just a quick question - do any other provinces have or plan to have provincial centres of excellence?
I think Ulster have one - it would make more sense for each county to have their own smaller centre though
Where is the Ulster one? There should be no such thing as provincial ones unless the Railway Cup preparation is taken a lot more seriously!
I thought there was one in Ulster but apparently the Connacht one is the first provincial centre in the country. Time will tell how beneficial it is. Certainly I think it is a worthwhile venture given that it will be accessible for large tracts of four counties (Mayo, Sligo, Galway and Roscommon). Which does leave Leitrim outta luck from a geographical standpoint. It will be an ideal venue for so much colleges football that has to be played in winter when clubs despise the idea of their pitch being dug up.
Fair point about colleges football.
Here's what is being planned in Roscommon:
QuoteRoscommon GAA County Board is to press
ahead with the €690,000 purchase of 53 acres
of land in the Oran area with a view to a possible
€5m development of training facilities for
county teams.
The ambitious plan received the support of
club delegates at a County Board meeting on
Tuesday night and this week GAA chiefs in
the county will begin the process of purchasing
the lands and embarking on the hugely
ambitious project. The site is located at Runnabackan
Td., Oran, Co. Roscommon.
The plan envisages the provision of seven
full-size pitches and the construction of a Co.
Roscommon GAA Centre to include dressing
rooms, indoor gym, meeting rooms and catering
facilities. A 1.5km cross-country training
track is envisaged as well as two large hurling
walls. Initial pre-planning consultation with
Roscommon County Council is now being engaged
in and a planning application is set to
follow in the New Year.
County Board Secretary Mr. Seamus Maher
told the Roscommon People on Wednesday
that now that the clubs have given the plan "the
< green light", phase one will be to proceed with
the purchase of the site. He confi rmed that the
site will cost €690,000 and that the clubs had
decided that a €250,000 development grant
would be earmarked for the project. He added
that it is hoped that a further purchase grant
might be available from Croke Park.
I know most people in Roscommon would rather see the above idea progress in not just Roscommon but in all the other counties. With the help of some funding from the Connacht Council which will now go into the Ballyhaunis centre, the above idea could become a reality.
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on August 23, 2009, 02:07:57 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 23, 2009, 05:28:32 AM
Oh I forgot, you know everything. How foolish of me. My most sincere apologies. If you know so much so amigo tell me would you trust the Sligo County Board, who you spend so much time dishing, to spend this €2million you request on the appropriate facilities? Also what are you going to be able to build for €2million? A couple of pitches and a modest clubhouse. The Connacht Centre should be a great asset for all counties, a lot of economies of scale will come into play. A full-size indoord pitch will be great for the entire province. It's just your bad luck that you're practically living in Bundoran.
And on that point anyone from Belmullet, Achill or Louisburgh would probably be further away. Build a bridge.
The spin doctor is back, completely ignores my last post tearing his logic to shreds, then in an attempt to deflect that he knows NOTHING about Sligo football he say "oh I forgot you know everything" well where did Sligonian say that ::), i will admit i know a hell of lot more about Sligo football than you ;), but I wouldnt attempt to lecture mayo people about mayo football.
Then he goes on about my County Board dishing, well I know who are the ones serving Sligo Football in the County Board, and lucky for us the treasurer is one of them, you only have to look at Club SLigo to know that, I wouldnt have joined that if I thought my money would be wasted, so therefore 2 million im sure he'd and few others would put it to good use. Lets be specific sniper, you tend to be very selective and twisting in your posts to suit your agenda. If you go back I was pretty specific in my criticisms and never once criticised the treasurer. Structures, processes are slightly different topics ;) its fair to say.
Have you contradicted yourself on your last point sniper, you were telling me south Sligo is the football heartland and we should build our centre in Tubbercurry, well isnt your football heartland north east mayo im thinking, so ballyhaunis wouldnt to bad a location for ye despite your spin on achill, belmullet etc....being so far away, i doubt ye'll lose any sleep over that. If yer were building yer own which IMO ye are, it would most still be built in Ballyhaunis its fair to say.
Oh and watch now as all the mayolads leach on to the words Bellaghy and Ballaghdereen...... :D and ignore the rest of my post. Well sniper you used for your point first ;)....and it fits nicely into my point.
You really are a funny guy. :D You give out about me apparently lecturing you on Sligo football, and I'll acknowledge south Sligo may not be the centre of Sligo football anymore if you say so, but then you reckon you know where a Mayo centre would be put - Ballyhaunis :D
It's two miles from Roscommon and Sligo town is nearer to it than Crossmolina, the strongest club of the modern age in Mayo. Yeah that would be a great strategic location for it. Somewhere like Castlebar or Foxford would be where a Mayo centre would be put. You clearly don't know your Mayo geography so don't attempt to lecture me on it :P
The Sligo County Board treasurer is a good man? Fair play to him. Really think he's going to have the final say on funding for a centre? Very naive. Secretary and chairman are the powerbrokers, along with possibly a central council delegate. You never answered me about what 2million could build. Economies of scale in Bekan play a huge part.
Also your suggestion that some money will be redirected towards McHale Park? Do you really think something like that would be let under the table by other counties?
Bellaghy and Ballagh'? I won't get there except to say that Ballagh has always been Mayo and stop giving out about Bellaghy after the horse has bolted. Concentrate on what you can change.
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Well whats the treasurers role so, Im mean he has to balance the books so im sure he says we cant afford certain things so we dont end up with debt, also with funding he needs to make sure its spent wisely and keep an account of it...who else would, cost control is vital role of treasurer IMO or else whats the point having one, getting the funding from the various bodies available wouldnt be his role like you said above, i do know that. I just know the money wont be wasted. No big deal. Obviously QS would over look the cost control of any facility aswell.
Im over the Bellaghy thing just used it to reinforced my dig at mayo :P...and i didnt bring it up first farrandeelin fyi, no gun was put Parsons head im guessing :P. Lets park it there though.
2million could build alot believe it or not, it would definitly purchase the land and make a start on the facilities, in Sligo we could scale back on the amount of pitches, 3 would suffice, then like Markievicz park we would go with phased development based on our own fundraising inititatives and funds from lottery, croker and CC etc..so we'd need more, I think we had 7m earmarked before for a centre.
Relax about the mchale park thing. I dont know exactly how the funds are structured. To be honest id rather if all the 10 million wasnt spent on the centre that it would at least stay in Connacht.
I should of got out a map of mayo before i posted, i had swinford and ballyhaunis mixed up, my bad :D. Actually never been in either. Ya its not the greatest location for ye either i'll admit. Makes even less sense to me now looking at the map and location.
On the college point, do they not have all there own pitches and its not really worth it for that alone...ted webb and manning cup will be played there, connacht schools games..etc...
One has to admire the Connacht council's sense of fair play in finding the exact center of Connacht, which they have located in Bekan. Which also happens to be the middle of nowhere. Every now and again you'll still see old morris minors and box cortinas driving around Urlaur and Kilkelly, Ireland (my dear and loving son John) trying to find the Bekan feis. The 1979 feis. The transformation in viewpoint of the Mayo County Board is remarkable too. They kicked up an awful fuss when Hyde Park was designated to be the main stadium in Connacht in the early 90s and the printing presses of the Western People were hopping mad with some angry editorials. They soon put the Kybosh on that idea. I somehow wonder if the center of Connacht was Tulsk, Carrick or Gurteen, would they be so quick to have the center of Excellence there?
Quote from: Turlough O Carolan on August 24, 2009, 01:47:16 PM
One has to admire the Connacht council's sense of fair play in finding the exact center of Connacht, which they have located in Bekan. Which also happens to be the middle of nowhere. Every now and again you'll still see old morris minors and box cortinas driving around Urlaur and Kilkelly, Ireland (my dear and loving son John) trying to find the Bekan feis. The 1979 feis. The transformation in viewpoint of the Mayo County Board is remarkable too. They kicked up an awful fuss when Hyde Park was designated to be the main stadium in Connacht in the early 90s and the printing presses of the Western People were hopping mad with some angry editorials. They soon put the Kybosh on that idea. I somehow wonder if the center of Connacht was Tulsk, Carrick or Gurteen, would they be so quick to have the center of Excellence there?
I know Turlough, I know. ;)
Bekan is a place where past and present collide (head on) and of course the connivers on the Mayo county board are responsible- they always are.
Given the present standard of 'Excellence' of Connacht football, I think Bekan is an excellent place to
stick locate it.
Maybe the other ones you mentioned might be just as suitable as I think there are lots of bog around the lot of them but I feel Bekan is as suitable as any.
So it seems that that all of connacht is against this with the exception of mayo ( many of who dont exactly seem to be in favour of the concept but with no obvious angst against the location , which is understandable) , was this protrayed to all the county dealgates at the time? I presume that this would have had to be santioned by the council and voted upon?
Ludermor - do you know how the council works?
Sligonian - we'd be playing and training on our Sligo Centre of Excellence if our own didn't nobble it because they didn't like the club whose area it would be located in.
Long before the advent of sat-nav and googlemaps - which is another story altogether, alas - I remember searching for and eventually finding Bekan in order to play a minor game there, on what could only be described in GAA terms as being the very poor relation of an afflicted farmer's field. The rough carpet of heathery sedges and steep incline of the pitch from one side to the other was such, that it most certainly had never seen the lick of a plough, let alone grass seed. Very wisely imho, neither machine nor beast had ever considered daring to venture onto its dizzying inclines to try and tame them. [Given today's stringent Farm Health & Safety Laws, that's quite rightly how it's likely to remain too.]
Such was the remote pitch's mountainy attributes - oh, and not forgetting the advisability of wearing oxygen tanks should you be unfortunate enough to get shouldered into the swampy depts by the lower sideline - even Saatchi & Saatchi would struggle to promote it as anything other than an outdoor wilderness and adventure centre.
For all its faults though, it was deemed good enough to play under-age football on. :D
A character-building 'survival-of-the-fittest' type of pitch, you might say. Who could ever forget Bekan - once they'd found it, that is?
Crikey, but isn't the ability of parochial GAA politics to bring home the bacon a mighty thing altogether!
A €10 Million Connacht Centre of Excellence... in Bekan ... what a wheeze John. Hope you don't have the last laugh on this one.
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PM
Ludermor - do you know how the council works?
Sligonian - we'd be playing and training on our Sligo Centre of Excellence if our own didn't nobble it because they didn't like the club whose area it would be located in.
Honestly Seanie i dont , thats why im asking
Quote from: magpie seanie on August 24, 2009, 02:49:13 PM
Ludermor - do you know how the council works?
Sligonian - we'd be playing and training on our Sligo Centre of Excellence if our own didn't nobble it because they didn't like the club whose area it would be located in.
Ya I know, some so called Sligo people have alot to answer for regarding that >:(. For me its not a dead duck though, it has to happen. Pisses me off, and you so we just need to get it done. First mooted in Owenmore Gaels, than Coolera/Strandhill both sound locations, whats the latest?
The most shocking thing about this is Leitrim, there furthest away and there CENTRE is fully designed and already started and last time I passed in May it was stalled. Surely they wouldnt agree to this more than any other County?.
Link to Connacht Council Commitees, what department is responsible for this decision?.
http://www.connachtgaa.ie/pdf/2008_Connacht_Committees.pdf
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Ya Ulster have one, Tyrone have one planned aswell. So you agree with me Stephenite?
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Where is there the Ulster Centre of Excellence? I have never heard of the place.
The galway hurlers were the only ones to complain about the location, too far from south galway. It should be of great use to galway & rosscommon football.
Quote from: oakleafgael on August 24, 2009, 04:55:10 PM
Ya Ulster have one, Tyrone have one planned aswell. So you agree with me Stephenite?
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Where is there the Ulster Centre of Excellence? I have never heard of the place.
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Some other gael said its in Monaghan, but It could be a wind up.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 24, 2009, 05:04:37 PM
The galway hurlers were the only ones to complain about the location, too far from south galway. It should be of great use to galway & rosscommon football.
How do you know that? You involved, any chance you could answer what its use will be exactly?
I'm not involved but i had a conversation about it on friday with one of the lads in connacht council coaching & games development.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on August 24, 2009, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: oakleafgael on August 24, 2009, 04:55:10 PM
Ya Ulster have one, Tyrone have one planned aswell. So you agree with me Stephenite?
Where is there the Ulster Centre of Excellence? I have never heard of the place.
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Some other gael said its in Monaghan, but It could be a wind up.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 24, 2009, 05:04:37 PM
The galway hurlers were the only ones to complain about the location, too far from south galway. It should be of great use to galway & rosscommon football.
How do you know that? You involved, any chance you could answer what its use will be exactly?
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I dont think there is one Sligonian. Most counties in Ulster now have their own or have plans in place for one. Derry have had Owenbeg for 10 years and its still a work in progress. Fermanagh have one outside Enniskillen. Tyrone have plans for a fantastic looking setup outside Ballygawley, the land has been purchased and the work has begun. Antrim are fundraising for one outside Antrim town.
I cant see how a Provincial centre can work. Asking players to travel 90mins for training is madness. They would be wrecked by the time they get there after a days work and then have the same journey home after a hard couple of hours training. The money would have been much better split between the counties or kept in a fund specifically for improvements for county training facilities.
Connacht is the only province to have plans for a provincial centre
How are they going to manage 5 Counties wanting to use the Centre at the same time if that happens.
Seems a very strange idea, could not see it working in Munster, could you imagine Kerry and Cork training on the one night there would be some skelping there and the Cork Hurlers and justs anyone else who plays hurling in Munster all training away together.
Quote from: Kerry Mike on August 24, 2009, 11:53:14 PM
How are they going to manage 5 Counties wanting to use the Centre at the same time if that happens.
Galway won't be using it at all. They already have their own foootball centre built and up and running for the past 18 months or so. The hurlers have their one under development. Maybe club teams would use it but who the feck would want to go all the way to Ballyhaunis to train anyway? It's hardly La Manga.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 25, 2009, 12:53:16 AM
who the feck would want to go all the way to Ballyhaunis to train anyway? It's hardly La Manga.
:D
QuoteGalway won't be using it at all. They already have their own foootball centre built and up and running for the past 18 months or so.
I hope they start to see a return on their investment soon, they seem to have gone backwards this year !!
Did someone mention the feis at Bacon. Had a horrid experience there as a young lad. A decent enough sort but fruitcake of a teacher taught us stepdancing back in the seventies with the promise that it would make us better footballers. Mind you this now before Jigger became a Ros star. Shipped us off to the Feis in Bacon one day and we were half the day trying to find it. By the time we got there, absolute back of the beyonds, had about thirty seconds to get on stage. Ripped the leg going up the makeshift steps and had to pull the socks up to the knee to cover the gash. Short pants at the time. Got on stage and the feckers started the music before I had a chance to draw the breath. Two girls I was up against went hopping around the stage to the hornpipe and I couldn't remember my steps. Stood there like a feckin eejit doing nothing and my leg killing me and the teacher down below with his hands in his heads having a nervous breakdown. A holy show is the only word. Afterwards one of the mothers felt sorry for me and gave me five pence to buy a bag of Tayto. Found a place there to get a bag of crisps. Saven pay said the women behind the counter. What are you on about says I, a bag of crisps is five pence and five pence is all I have. She pointed to the bag and sure enough it was now seven pence. Wasn't I the misfortunate waistrel that day in Bacon. Split the leg open, forgot my steps on stage and to top it off, it was the day a bag of tayto went from 5p to 7p. Well I hope to God I never ever see that awful boghole again. What are the council thinking off putting a center for excellence there.
aren't the Connacht Council lucky that there was such a 'suitable' site availble in Bekan??
I'd say the farmer is laughing at managing to sell his land
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 25, 2009, 12:53:16 AM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on August 24, 2009, 11:53:14 PM
How are they going to manage 5 Counties wanting to use the Centre at the same time if that happens.
Galway won't be using it at all. They already have their own foootball centre built and up and running for the past 18 months or so. The hurlers have their one under development. Maybe club teams would use it but who the feck would want to go all the way to Ballyhaunis to train anyway? It's hardly La Manga.
You are on the ball GBB :D
Centre of Excellence will be Connacht's 'La Manga'
Edwin McGreal
THE new Connacht GAA Centre of Excellence will be the the province's equivalent of the famous Spanish sport resort, La Manga, according to Connacht GAA Secretary John Prenty.
The Centre, which will be located at Cloonacurry, Bekan (on the Knock-Ballyhaunis road) successfully came through the planning process last week and Prenty has dismissed suggestions that the €10 million proposed development is a luxury.
"Absolutely not. What you need to bear in mind is that there are similar facilities in other provinces in places like DCU, Jordanstown and places like that," he told The Mayo News. "Counties in those provinces use those places all the time but in Connacht there is no such centre.
"You had the Mayo County Board bringing players to UL (University of Limerick) to get lads tested. Now counties in Connacht can come to the centre for that kind of work and it can also be a centre for underage development squads. We would see it as a La Manga type facility for the province with everything on site."
However, it is the provision of facilities for the playing of second-level games that has most driven the need for the Centre.
"Colleges GAA is the main reason we've went for this facility," explained Prenty. "For the last number of seasons we've had major difficulties with pitches. Only a certain number of clubs were willing to allow us to play games on their pitches in winter and that was understandable. We'll have six pitches available now and there's no reason why a game should be called off."
Along with six outdoor pitches, a gym, a video analysis room, and dressing rooms, the Centre will also house a full-size indoor astro-turf facility. The on-site location and height of the roof of the indoor pitch were both changed to accommodate concerns from local residents but it is expected that both hurling and football will be played there. John Prenty is also keen to emphasise that the Centre should be viewed as an additional facility for counties, in combination with their own.
"What it will be is an add-on to what counties have," he said. "Each county needs their own training centre but there are parts of this centre, like the indoor pitch for instance, that make more sense to have in a central provincial location rather than the counties each having them. The counties can use these facilities in addition to their own."
Along with funding from their own resources, the Connacht GAA Council have received funding from Croke Park from revenue generated from rugby and soccer internationals at Croke Park. Advertising for tenders is due to start in the coming weeks with work expected to commence in late Autumn. The Connacht Council offices, currently located in Ballyhaunis, are also due to eventually move to the Centre.
They must have forgotten to mention the lab facilities that are being built for players to get "tested".
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How are they going to manage 5 Counties wanting to use the Centre at the same time if that happens.
Galway won't be using it at all. They already have their own foootball centre built and up and running for the past 18 months or so. The hurlers have their one under development. Maybe club teams would use it but who the feck would want to go all the way to Ballyhaunis to train anyway? It's hardly La Manga.
You are on the ball GBB :D
Centre of Excellence will be Connacht's 'La Manga'
Edwin McGreal
THE new Connacht GAA Centre of Excellence will be the the province's equivalent of the famous Spanish sport resort, La Manga, according to Connacht GAA Secretary John Prenty.
The Centre, which will be located at Cloonacurry, Bekan (on the Knock-Ballyhaunis road) successfully came through the planning process last week and Prenty has dismissed suggestions that the €10 million proposed development is a luxury.
"Absolutely not. What you need to bear in mind is that there are similar facilities in other provinces in places like DCU, Jordanstown and places like that," he told The Mayo News. "Counties in those provinces use those places all the time but in Connacht there is no such centre.
"You had the Mayo County Board bringing players to UL (University of Limerick) to get lads tested. Now counties in Connacht can come to the centre for that kind of work and it can also be a centre for underage development squads. We would see it as a La Manga type facility for the province with everything on site."
However, it is the provision of facilities for the playing of second-level games that has most driven the need for the Centre.
"Colleges GAA is the main reason we've went for this facility," explained Prenty. "For the last number of seasons we've had major difficulties with pitches. Only a certain number of clubs were willing to allow us to play games on their pitches in winter and that was understandable. We'll have six pitches available now and there's no reason why a game should be called off."
Along with six outdoor pitches, a gym, a video analysis room, and dressing rooms, the Centre will also house a full-size indoor astro-turf facility. The on-site location and height of the roof of the indoor pitch were both changed to accommodate concerns from local residents but it is expected that both hurling and football will be played there. John Prenty is also keen to emphasise that the Centre should be viewed as an additional facility for counties, in combination with their own.
"What it will be is an add-on to what counties have," he said. "Each county needs their own training centre but there are parts of this centre, like the indoor pitch for instance, that make more sense to have in a central provincial location rather than the counties each having them. The counties can use these facilities in addition to their own."
Along with funding from their own resources, the Connacht GAA Council have received funding from Croke Park from revenue generated from rugby and soccer internationals at Croke Park. Advertising for tenders is due to start in the coming weeks with work expected to commence in late Autumn. The Connacht Council offices, currently located in Ballyhaunis, are also due to eventually move to the Centre.
A 10 million centre, what are the running costs if its so state of the art, its like sport science academy, will trained professionals be full time there etc...
Am I out of touch with regards the colleges, do they not have there own pitches? Is the CC responsibilty to provide funds for pitches for them.. Is College Football that important that the CC will build a 10 centre for mainly there benefit.
Spectator - you're on thin ice there.
Thank You Seanie.
These August frosts are not conducive to ice skating in the West of Ireland, right enough :-[
Did I miss something? Thought Spectator comments were bang on.
I see that work has began on Mayo Connacht centre of Excellence
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=129252
Sod turned on Connacht Centre of Excellence
22 May 2010
GAA president Christy Cooney was on hand yesterday to turn the sod on the Connacht Council's new €10m Centre of Excellence at Bekan near Ballyhaunis, Co Mayo.
The 65-acre site is set to be transformed into a complex comprising six floodlit outdoor pitches, a state-of-the-art indoor pitch, gymnasium, and related facilities. It will act as a venue for county, club and school teams from throughout the province and is expected to be completed by 2014.
"This is a hugely significant day in the history of the GAA in Connacht," Cooney said.
"It will be the first provincial Centre of Excellence in the country, which is a real feather in Connacht's cap. Money generated by the rental of Croke Park was ring-fenced for projects such as this and I wish everyone involved with this development every success."
So, from reading this it looks like Galway don't need to use it, Sligo and Roscommon don't want to and Leitrim can't. Sure we might as well start the rebranding process now then!
Connacht Centre of Excellence
That should keep everyone on board for the moment...
Seriously though, I had a look at the plans there:
http://www.mayococo.ie/scripts/cgi/SecCategoryList.asp?id=081995&v=1&lanum=1 (http://www.mayococo.ie/scripts/cgi/SecCategoryList.asp?id=081995&v=1&lanum=1)
It looks like some job, a 140m x 88m indoor GAA pitch with a 19 metre high roof and a 900 seater stand built into the back of it is a serious development. Interesting that the documentation says it will be used for a lot of FBD league matches (the facility, not the indoor pitch). You could have FBD double headers on January Saturdays and Sundays and bring more of a crowd in, show off the facilities etc. It would be a massive improvement on some of the dumps you end up traveling to in January watching those games. There is also a medical room shown in the plans I think for whoever asked earlier in the thread.
People talk about the platform given to other sports by the opening of Croke Park but it's unlikely that soccer or rugby could ever develop facilities of that quality and scale in the west of Ireland, and this kind of thing is the longer term benefit for the GAA from Croker.
Anyone know how the Tyrone development compares in terms or size and facilities?
It just goes to show how much control prenty has in Connacht, there is no democracy in Connacht, Sligo, Roscommon and Leitrim all afraid of the holes to stand against this project in case it comes too bite them in ass. GAA is a sick organisation in alot of ways. This is absollute travesty that this gets built. Vanity project for 1 man and a county under the guise of connacht. 10 million in this day and age on a project that isnt even going to be used except for mayo is fcking disgrace.
All joking aside this is the Connacht centre of excellence and is for the use of the whole province. I don't fully understand the apathy being shown by Sligo and Ros lads, if those coounties do not embrace it, then it just makes it more likely that it will become a Mayo centre in effect. It is located right in the middle of the province, if you draw a line on a map from Manorhamilton to Inishmore and another from Belmullet to Ballinasloe they pretty much intersect in Bekan. It just so happens that the geographical centre of Connacht falls within County Mayo. From a Mayo perspective it would be better if it was in Breaffy in the same way that it would be better for Sligo people if it was in Collooney etc, but it's a provincial centre so it is where it is.
I mean, would you refuse to use Ireland West Airport because its in Mayo? But if they put smaller airports in all 5 counties they would all just become unsustainable? Same kind of principle - one large high quality GAA centre instead of a few average ones.
I think Connacht is the only province where this idea can work, it's a good bit smaller than the other three. I would guess 80-90 percent of the population would live within an hours drive of Bekan, but there will be parts of all 5 counties (a good chunk of Mayo included) that will be a little bit further away.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on May 23, 2010, 12:11:40 PM
All joking aside this is the Connacht centre of excellence and is for the use of the whole province. I don't fully understand the apathy being shown by Sligo and Ros lads, if those coounties do not embrace it, then it just makes it more likely that it will become a Mayo centre in effect. It is located right in the middle of the province, if you draw a line on a map from Manorhamilton to Inishmore and another from Belmullet to Ballinasloe they pretty much intersect in Bekan. It just so happens that the geographical centre of Connacht falls within County Mayo. From a Mayo perspective it would be better if it was in Breaffy in the same way that it would be better for Sligo people if it was in Collooney etc, but it's a provincial centre so it is where it is.
I mean, would you refuse to use Ireland West Airport because its in Mayo? But if they put smaller airports in all 5 counties they would all just become unsustainable? Same kind of principle - one large high quality GAA centre instead of a few average ones.
I think Connacht is the only province where this idea can work, it's a good bit smaller than the other three. I would guess 80-90 percent of the population would live within an hours drive of Bekan, but there will be parts of all 5 counties (a good chunk of Mayo included) that will be a little bit further away.
Sligo has an airport, and our centre of excellence has gone to planning. Why would we use the connacht one if we are going to build our own?
At the announcement of the connacht one, the best prenty could do was say it was for college football and they find it hard to find pitches for them. FBD aswell and maybe connacht minor league. As i said before if the 10 milion for this project means we dont get a penny for ours welll i will be raging and i will hold Sligo CB accountable aswell.
Common sense, fairness, democracy would of seen the 10 millon spread evenly around connacht and then ye could build yere own one in breaffy. None of that exists in Connacht. Ours is planned for Strandhill just out side the town.
That would be fine if there was an unlimited pot of money to build five of them. But if you split the 10 million 5 ways, 2 million on a greenfield site might get you a bog standard pitch, changing rooms and maybe a small gym in each county. So instead of one centre of excellence you'd have no centre of excellence and five very average training facilities akin to what you'd find at a well run senior club. Given that facilities of that standard are in place in all five counties already, it would be money wasted, especially if left to the respective county boards. As this is being done at Connacht Council level, I have some hope that it will be a fairly high quality development.
I would imagine it would be difficult for the Connacht Council to justify funding an individual development in Strandhill on top of this, I take it you are funding that yourselves?
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on May 23, 2010, 11:23:05 AM
Interesting that the documentation says it will be used for a lot of FBD league matches (the facility, not the indoor pitch). You could have FBD double headers on January Saturdays and Sundays and bring more of a crowd in, show off the facilities etc. It would be a massive improvement on some of the dumps you end up traveling to in January watching those games.
I remember a few years ago a sight of Mayo men getting lost around Ballinlough trying to find the Glavey's pitch. Now Bekan isn't too far away from both Ballinlough and Ballyhaunis where every FBD league game between Mayo and Roscommon has been played since I can remember but it's still in the middle of nowhere. But it's much a bigger middle of nowhere, it's only claim to fame as someone said is that "Bekan" rhymes with "Bacon". This is the Connacht Council's Zombie Center of Excellence, one more last symbol of the Celtic Tiger era when concrete rubbish was just thrown up anywhere without any regard for location, access or need. The only time it might ever prove useful is if a Tsunami or earthquake hits Knock Village and they have to find some temporary shelter for dislocated nuns and their rosary beads.
Can't seewhat use this is to North Leitrim, North Sligo, North or South Roscommon, most of Galway and many parts of Mayo.
Another Prenty dictatorship decision.
I was pretty sceptical about Bekan as the preferred location when the centre of excellence was first mooted. It had the paw marks of a consensus by committee job all over the plans. It has been said that the camel was created on foot of a committee decision and I certainly thought we had another camel in the making on our hands when I observed all the horse trading and intrigue that it took for all five county committees to fix on a location and further to agree on what facilities the blessed centre was going to provide.
However, Bekan it is and I now believe it will prove to be an inspired choice. Like Cosmo, I took a look at a map of Connacht and Bekan is as close to dead centre as any reasonable individual could ask for. But I would suggest that location alone wasn't the prime reason for its selection; the road infrastructure had to be considered also.
It lies in an area bounded by the N17, N83 and N60. I'd welcome any suggestions from anyone who thinks there are better placed locations to serve the needs of all five Connacht counties.
Given the sheer size of Mayo and the appalling state of the roads in the northwest of the county, Bekan is more inaccessible for clubs in the Belmullet and Achill regions than for every club in Sligo, Roscommon and all of Galway, bar parts of Connemara and the extreme southern region. The same goes for the greater part of Leitrim also.
I have studied an AA road atlas and I am standing over what I have just stated.
So, sucks to anyone who thinks Mayo has come out best in the horse trading! ;)
Look the simple fact of the matter is that counties should have their own centres before you go down the route of contemplating provincial ones. I really don't see the point of it. It's a complete joke. No sport facility is a waste of money but the money could be spent so much better whatever the amount.
€10 million and not a handball alley in sight...
it'll be used mainly to play:
colleges games
3rd level games
primary school blitzes
I cannot see who will train there:
Mayo teams?
all the other counties are developing centres. the money from Croker was meant to help clubs. if that means county teams will have somewhere to train and play challenge games and save the club pitches up and down the country then that is money well spent. but i do not know who will use this Prenty Palace. its like some Nicolae Ceauşescu would have built in Romania back in the day to demonstrate his largesse and greatness
Quote from: neilthemac on May 23, 2010, 09:25:54 PM
€10 million and not a handball alley in sight...
Have you looked at the plans? There are three handball courts and a wallball court shown.
The more I read the replies to this thread the more I can see that lads from other counties are desperate to take pot shots at this project purely because its being built in Mayo and not in their county. But at least check your facts first.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on May 23, 2010, 10:05:42 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on May 23, 2010, 09:25:54 PM
€10 million and not a handball alley in sight...
Have you looked at the plans? There are three handball courts and a wallball court shown.
The more I read the replies to this thread the more I can see that lads from other counties are desperate to take pot shots at this project purely because its being built in Mayo and not in their county. But at least check your facts first.
Cosmos you should be a politician, as your spinning this to suit your agenda. Im just going to repost Neilthemac post IN FULL and not just take the ONE snippet out thats incorrect,
Quote from: neilthemac on May 23, 2010, 09:25:54 PM
€10 million and not a handball alley in sight...
it'll be used mainly to play:
colleges games
3rd level games
primary school blitzes
I cannot see who will train there:
Mayo teams?
all the other counties are developing centres. the money from Croker was meant to help clubs. if that means county teams will have somewhere to train and play challenge games and save the club pitches up and down the country then that is money well spent. but i do not know who will use this Prenty Palace. its like some Nicolae Ceauşescu would have built in Romania back in the day to demonstrate his largesse and greatness
The CC is a dicatatorship and prenty is man running the show, Mayo might get fair play in Connacht, and you only have to look at the ruling on ardnaree, bellaghy and ballaghdereen to see it blantantly abused, but Sligo, leitrim and Roscommon dont get fair play too often on/off the field in connacht so its a familiar trend to us. Just dont expect a mayoman to ever have a fathom of understanding where we are coming from when the shoe is never on the other foot. When have mayo ever been robbed, on/off the field in Connacht? I feel prenty has robbed Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon of valuable funds.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 23, 2010, 11:19:12 PM
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on May 23, 2010, 10:05:42 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on May 23, 2010, 09:25:54 PM
€10 million and not a handball alley in sight...
Have you looked at the plans? There are three handball courts and a wallball court shown.
The more I read the replies to this thread the more I can see that lads from other counties are desperate to take pot shots at this project purely because its being built in Mayo and not in their county. But at least check your facts first.
Cosmos you should be a politician, as your spinning this to suit your agenda. Im just going to repost Neilthemac post IN FULL and not just take the ONE snippet out thats incorrect,
Quote from: neilthemac on May 23, 2010, 09:25:54 PM
€10 million and not a handball alley in sight...
it'll be used mainly to play:
colleges games
3rd level games
primary school blitzes
I cannot see who will train there:
Mayo teams?
all the other counties are developing centres. the money from Croker was meant to help clubs. if that means county teams will have somewhere to train and play challenge games and save the club pitches up and down the country then that is money well spent. but i do not know who will use this Prenty Palace. its like some Nicolae Ceauşescu would have built in Romania back in the day to demonstrate his largesse and greatness
The CC is a dicatatorship and prenty is man running the show, Mayo might get fair play in Connacht, and you only have to look at the ruling on ardnaree, bellaghy and ballaghdereen to see it blantantly abused, but Sligo, leitrim and Roscommon dont get fair play too often on/off the field in connacht so its a familiar trend to us. Just dont expect a mayoman to ever have a fathom of understanding where we are coming from when the shoe is never on the other foot. When have mayo ever been robbed, on/off the field in Connacht? I feel prenty has robbed Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon of valuable funds.
:D Sligonian engages in mind games in lead up to big match to try and stir a bit of trouble, 'they're all agin us lads!! :D'
Amatuer attempt but 7/10 for effort
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on May 23, 2010, 10:05:42 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on May 23, 2010, 09:25:54 PM
€10 million and not a handball alley in sight...
Have you looked at the plans? There are three handball courts and a wallball court shown.
The more I read the replies to this thread the more I can see that lads from other counties are desperate to take pot shots at this project purely because its being built in Mayo and not in their county. But at least check your facts first.
Well you mustn't have read the replies so. People are against it because its unnecessary and the money could be spent far better elsewhere. The location doesn't really come into it but with the man at the helm that we have in Connacht it was only going to be in one county.
Now, now, seanie, you are being unreasonable here.
People are against it because its unnecessary and the money could be spent far better elsewhere.
Unnecessary??
Back In 20012, Galway won the AI, Mayo won the national league with four Connacht sides contesting the semis and Ballina won the club AI. By any standards, Connacht football was in fairly good condition back then.
What has happened in the interim?
At senior IC level, Conor Mortimer and Alan Dillon won All-Star awards in 2006 and, in the 8 years, 2002-2009, no other Connacht player has been deemed good enough to merit one. By my calculations, out of a total of 120 possible awards, Connacht managed to snag a grand total of 2!
Is the state of Connacht senior IC football as strong, relative to the rest of the country, as it was back in 2001 or is it slipping further and further behind the rest? I'll leave that for you, or better still Sligonian, to answer.
There was a brief mini-renaissance of sorts in the mid-noughties when Connacht counties won a brace of titles at club, u21 and minor levels but that was about the height of it.
and the money could be spent far better elsewhere.
Pray tell me where.
This is how John Prenty described the proposed facilities:
The centre will feature six outdoor GAA pitches, a 900-seater stand on the main pitch, a state-of-the-art indoor pitch, gymnasium, and related facilities.
The same man went on to state:
"What it will be is an add-on to what counties have," he said. "Each county needs their own training centre but there are parts of this centre, like the indoor pitch for instance, that make more sense to have in a central provincial location rather than the counties each having them. The counties can use these facilities in addition to their own."
Now, what problems, if any, do you find with either statement?
Do you think it would be prudent and responsible to divide the funds being allocated by HQ so they all can continue on their merry ways and come up with their conceptions of what a centre of excellence should be? They have has sweet damn all success in doing so so far and I can't see any of them being any more successful if they managed to siphon off funds from the GAA to aid and abet them further.
Look at the scandalous waste of money and resources involved if each county went its own way—not to mention the duplication of fitness trainers ,dieticians, clerical staff and other back up personnel.
The location doesn't really come into it but with the man at the helm that we have in Connacht it was only going to be in one county.
Now, if the man in question is John Prenty, he should have known that Bekan is more accessible to all parts of Sligo and Roscommon than it is to dozens of Mayo clubs from Newport to Ballycroy. You can throw in large chunks of Galway and Leitrim while you are at it.
With regard to the same decent individual, all I usually hear from posters from other counties here is a litany of moans, insinuations and innuendos about his character and modus operandi; I have still to come across a single instance of alleged wrong doing that comes within an asses' roar of solid fact.
I am quite prepared to be corrected on this and the other points I have made but I won't be holding my breath to wait for sensible replies.
(Naturally, that excludes Sligonian!)
This is a disgrace this centre. Mayo should have their own centre as should the other counties. This is for no one. I am a Sligo man, went to school in Mayo and would go out there. This is not anti-Mayo believe me. Just split the 10m 5 ways and all the counties are taken care of. It is a vanity project for the head from Ballyhaunis. Who is going to use it. We have a Handball club, hurling, and football. New centre for handball in Colloney, football and hurling in Strandhill, why would we go to Ballyhaunis. The poor souls in Glenamoy, Bellmullet, even Ballina would be quicker getting to the one in Sligo(trust me I know the mileage to both places).
This is not an anti-Mayo thing. If it was in any of the counties I would argue against. Let the counties look after their own. The fact is it is time to be rid of the provincial councils, but that is just my opinion.
I filled in as such on the connacht council website more than a year ago and I have not seen any report since. It has come up at the last number of Sligo county board meetings but we are being spun a tale there. It is going to be a waste of money for Connacht but some of Mayo will gain by it.
It is a disgrace, and I know it did not come before the Sligo board for approval, which is why there is fanciful tales now.
Lar - I'm not being in the slightest bit unreasonable. I'll take your points in order. I'll assume you're not on the wind up.
The first thing you talk about is the relative strength of Connacht senior intercounty football. I assume you are implying that having this centre of excellence is somehow going to improve that? Maybe you'd like to expand on that because I can't see the link. There's nothing to suggest this provincial centre is necessary.
You've proved my point with your words taken from Mr Prenty - "What it will be is an add-on to what counties have," he said. "Each county needs their own training centre but there are parts of this centre, like the indoor pitch for instance, that make more sense to have in a central provincial location rather than the counties each having them. The counties can use these facilities in addition to their own." Let's build the county ones first before we worry about "add-ons" to quote Mr Prenty.
Next you seem to argue against counties having their own centres. Is that your position? This is a direct contradiction of Prenty's statement above which you seemed to support.
Lets now deal with your stoic defense of Mr Prenty. Are you convinced of what you wrote? Seriously? If you are then you are clearly in the category of believing what you want to believe. My opinion is based on many things the foremost of which is personal experience. Plenty of solid facts for those who wish to listen. You can choose to believe that or not but to dismiss the anit-Prenty comments as you did is plainly ridiculous.
The mask slips then at the end where you say you won't be holding your breath for sensible replies. What an insulting attitude! It's clear you don't want any replies, sensible or otherwise, as your mind is closed.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 24, 2010, 02:12:38 PM
Now, now, seanie, you are being unreasonable here.
People are against it because its unnecessary and the money could be spent far better elsewhere.
Unnecessary??
Back In 20012, Galway won the AI, Mayo won the national league with four Connacht sides contesting the semis and Ballina won the club AI. By any standards, Connacht football was in fairly good condition back then.
What has happened in the interim?
At senior IC level, Conor Mortimer and Alan Dillon won All-Star awards in 2006 and, in the 8 years, EOH in 2002-2009, no other Connacht player has been deemed good enough to merit one. By my calculations, out of a total of 120 possible awards, Connacht managed to snag a grand total of 2!
Is the state of Connacht senior IC football as strong, relative to the rest of the country, as it was back in 2001 or is it slipping further and further behind the rest? I'll leave that for you, or better still Sligonian, to answer.
There was a brief mini-renaissance of sorts in the mid-noughties when Connacht counties won a brace of titles at club, u21 and minor levels but that was about the height of it. Whats your point, Galway have gone miles backwards since 2001, we had a good 2002, but I think we heading back strong again and we have by far the worst training facilities at present
and the money could be spent far better elsewhere.
Pray tell me where. on our own facility Lar
This is how John Prenty described the proposed facilities:
The centre will feature six outdoor GAA pitches, a 900-seater stand on the main pitch, a state-of-the-art indoor pitch, gymnasium, and related facilities.
The same man went on to state:
"What it will be is an add-on to what counties have," he said. "Each county needs their own training centre but there are parts of this centre, like the indoor pitch for instance, that make more sense to have in a central provincial location rather than the counties each having them. The counties can use these facilities in addition to their own."Yes this makes sense in a way, but he is justifying 10million for a indoor pitch, remember he said the main use would be the college fixtures as the CC have a hard time finding pitches for them
Now, what problems, if any, do you find with either statement?
Do you think it would be prudent and responsible to divide the funds being allocated by HQ so they all can continue on their merry ways and come up with their conceptions of what a centre of excellence should be? They have has sweet damn all success in doing so so far and I can't see any of them being any more successful if they managed to siphon off funds from the GAA to aid and abet them further.
Look at the scandalous waste of money and resources involved if each county went its own way—not to mention the duplication of fitness trainers ,dieticians, clerical staff and other back up personnel.
The location doesn't really come into it but with the man at the helm that we have in Connacht it was only going to be in one county.
Now, if the man in question is John Prenty, he should have known that Bekan is more accessible to all parts of Sligo and Roscommon than it is to dozens of Mayo clubs from Newport to Ballycroy. You can throw in large chunks of Galway and Leitrim while you are at it.
With regard to the same decent individual, all I usually hear from posters from other counties here is a litany of moans, insinuations and innuendos about his character and modus operandi; I have still to come across a single instance of alleged wrong doing that comes within an asses' roar of solid fact.
I am quite prepared to be corrected on this and the other points I have made but I won't be holding my breath to wait for sensible replies.
(Naturally, that excludes Sligonian!)
Some in bits in bold above my reply aswell, The location doesnt come into for us either. Its just not needed. Galway have far better training facilities than us, but yet we beat 3 times at u21 and won a senior connacht, never been much between the minors, I mean using your logic that shouldnt happen. Connacht is too big for this to be feasible. Provincial centres over County centres is just plain stupid. Get the County centres up first then if there is a surplus maybe go ahead with Provincial. IMO its the Sligo and Roscommon talking all the sense here, the mayolads is just typical ignorance as usual. Take yere heads out of yere arses.
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 24, 2010, 03:42:23 PM
Lar - I'm not being in the slightest bit unreasonable. I'll take your points in order. I'll assume you're not on the wind up.
The first thing you talk about is the relative strength of Connacht senior intercounty football. I assume you are implying that having this centre of excellence is somehow going to improve that? Maybe you'd like to expand on that because I can't see the link. There's nothing to suggest this provincial centre is necessary.
You've proved my point with your words taken from Mr Prenty - "What it will be is an add-on to what counties have," he said. "Each county needs their own training centre but there are parts of this centre, like the indoor pitch for instance, that make more sense to have in a central provincial location rather than the counties each having them. The counties can use these facilities in addition to their own." Let's build the county ones first before we worry about "add-ons" to quote Mr Prenty.
Next you seem to argue against counties having their own centres. Is that your position? This is a direct contradiction of Prenty's statement above which you seemed to support.
Lets now deal with your stoic defense of Mr Prenty. Are you convinced of what you wrote? Seriously? If you are then you are clearly in the category of believing what you want to believe. My opinion is based on many things the foremost of which is personal experience. Plenty of solid facts for those who wish to listen. You can choose to believe that or not but to dismiss the anit-Prenty comments as you did is plainly ridiculous.
The mask slips then at the end where you say you won't be holding your breath for sensible replies. What an insulting attitude! It's clear you don't want any replies, sensible or otherwise, as your mind is closed.
Fair play to you, seanie; I didn't have long to wait for a reply in your case.
I just might have been trying to get a response from somebody else- if you can follow me.
BTW; there was nothing of a personal nature intended when I quoted you- it was more a case of, "Good God, even seanie is at it now," than anything else.
To begin at the end as Irish people tend to do, I am not stoically defending John Prenty from anything. The man is surely entitled to his good name unless and until he proves himself to be unworthy of it. Anything otherwise is a misuse of the right to freedom of expression.
I am not dismissing any anti-Prenty sentiments expressed here or elsewhere and I have never doubted your sincerity here or before now but what I've seen from anybody to date are subjective opinions and not solid facts.
As you will recall I imagine, a fair bit of horse trading went on between the various county boards and council members before the venue was finally selected. That's the nature of Connacht GAAA politics and is to be expected. However, Bekan was the location selected. I doubt if the fact that it is very close to the geographic centre of the province came into the reckoning. Of far more strategic importance is the fact that Bekan lies within easy reach of three of the major roadways in Connacht.
If a centre is to be built, it would be illogical to situate it anywhere else.
For anyone to suggest that John Prenty manipulated proceedings in order to get Bekan selected on grounds other than location implies that all of his CC colleagues are pawns in his hands. That may appeal to many but I'd like to have proof before I'd go along with it.
Now, I think I've already given sufficient reasons why Connacht needs a common centre of excellence and why the CC is to be commended for taking the initiative and deciding to build one somewhere. You have only to look at the national returns over the last 8-9 years or so to see this.
I certainly am not suggesting that the reported €10 million allocation should be split five ways so that each county can go its own way but that is far from saying that counties should be discouraged from improving their own facilities; could any county fund a full-size indoor playing pitch out of its own resources-even with a once-off €2 million handout?
Surely all counties could find better value for their own monies that paying for facilities and back up that will be available to all.
All in all, my mind is far from closed but I would need facts not gripes to make me change it. I would also like someone, anyone, to explain to me how the mere fact than Bekan is physically in Mayo will give that county and extra claim to its use than any of the other Connacht counties. (Sligonian, this includes you!)
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 23, 2010, 09:00:58 PM
Look the simple fact of the matter is that counties should have their own centres before you go down the route of contemplating provincial ones. I really don't see the point of it. It's a complete joke. No sport facility is a waste of money but the money could be spent so much better whatever the amount.
These are team games. The teams involved are in competition with each other, in some cases they involve the most important rivalries for each team. The whole idea is competition, not co-operation. I don't think this was thought through.
And as an aside is it just me or would others feel extremely uncomfortable spending an organisation's funds in a manner that could easily lead to suggestions of favoritism? Or am I just not cut out for politics Irish style?
Lar - thanks for that reply. I wasn't sure where you were coming from with the earlier one but I see now. We just disagree on a few of the fundamental points. That's ok.
Your arguments on the location at Bekan are red herrings as far as I'm concerned. If I thought it was a good idea Bekan is probably as good a spot as any to locate it and geographically Mayo is at the centre of the province so its logical it should be in that county. Trouble is I don't think its a good idea to do this before all counties hae their own facilities up and running.
Anyway - I think I've made my points, as has Lar.
Go on Sligonian, tell me the ruling on Ardnaree?
Nothing more too say farran.
I have the exact same opinion as westie and seanie and the rossie lads. I think weve made ourselves very clear. The ignorance on the mayo side never ceases too amaze me.
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on May 24, 2010, 09:06:31 PM
Nothing more too say farran.
I have the exact same opinion as westie and seanie and the rossie lads. I think weve made ourselves very clear. The ignorance on the mayo side never ceases too amaze me.
9.06 pm . The 24th Of May 2010. Sligonian has nothing more to say. I never thought i would see the day.
Any update on the Connacht center of Excellence Has construction started?
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on August 29, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
Any update on the Connacht center of Excellence Has construction started?
no the slog and ross lads here object put the kibosh on the whole thing
even though its much closer to most of them than to much of mayo anyway. I mean very few of us consider ballyhaunis really mayo anyway
Quote from: rosnarun on August 29, 2010, 05:50:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on August 29, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
Any update on the Connacht center of Excellence Has construction started?
no the slog and ross lads here object put the kibosh on the whole thing
even though its much closer to most of them than to much of mayo anyway. I mean very few of us consider ballyhaunis really mayo anyway
Ya themselves and the Toreen boys run around with long flat sticks and small baseball/cricketball type yokes, very un-Mayolike.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 29, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 29, 2010, 05:50:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on August 29, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
Any update on the Connacht center of Excellence Has construction started?
no the slog and ross lads here object put the kibosh on the whole thing
even though its much closer to most of them than to much of mayo anyway. I mean very few of us consider ballyhaunis really mayo anyway
Ya themselves and the Toreen boys run around with long flat sticks and small baseball/cricketball type yokes, very un-Mayolike.
It's Tooreen...get it right if your going to attempt to poke fun at us. ;)
Mapquest is a great yoke altogether!
Belmullet-Bekan 1hr 48 mins
Carrick-Bekan 1hr 03mins
Galway-Bekan 1hr 02 mins
Roscommon-Bekan 49 mins
Sligo-Bekan 1hr 1 min
(As far Im concerned Belumuulet is the Spiritual Capital of Mayo Football seeing as that is where Willie Joe is from!!!!)
Quote from: Coolio on August 29, 2010, 07:36:37 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 29, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 29, 2010, 05:50:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on August 29, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
Any update on the Connacht center of Excellence Has construction started?
no the slog and ross lads here object put the kibosh on the whole thing
even though its much closer to most of them than to much of mayo anyway. I mean very few of us consider ballyhaunis really mayo anyway
Ya themselves and the Toreen boys run around with long flat sticks and small baseball/cricketball type yokes, very un-Mayolike.
It's Tooreen...get it right if your going to attempt to poke fun at us. ;)
is tooreen a real place? only place i know around there is cloonfaughna(spell checker seem to think that's wrong)
Quote from: rosnarun on August 29, 2010, 11:49:24 PM
Quote from: Coolio on August 29, 2010, 07:36:37 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 29, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 29, 2010, 05:50:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on August 29, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
Any update on the Connacht center of Excellence Has construction started?
no the slog and ross lads here object put the kibosh on the whole thing
even though its much closer to most of them than to much of mayo anyway. I mean very few of us consider ballyhaunis really mayo anyway
Ya themselves and the Toreen boys run around with long flat sticks and small baseball/cricketball type yokes, very un-Mayolike.
It's Tooreen...get it right if your going to attempt to poke fun at us. ;)
is tooreen a real place? only place i know around there is cloonfaughna(spell checker seem to think that's wrong)
hell yeah sure tooreen used to have a famous ballroom/nightclub back in the late 60s early 70s had to be closed down after the rumor that the devil made a visit one night
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Quote from: rosnarun on August 29, 2010, 11:49:24 PM
Quote from: Coolio on August 29, 2010, 07:36:37 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 29, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 29, 2010, 05:50:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on August 29, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
Any update on the Connacht center of Excellence Has construction started?
no the slog and ross lads here object put the kibosh on the whole thing
even though its much closer to most of them than to much of mayo anyway. I mean very few of us consider ballyhaunis really mayo anyway
Ya themselves and the Toreen boys run around with long flat sticks and small baseball/cricketball type yokes, very un-Mayolike.
It's Tooreen...get it right if your going to attempt to poke fun at us. ;)
is tooreen a real place? only place i know around there is cloonfaughna(spell checker seem to think that's wrong)
hell yeah sure tooreen used to have a famous ballroom/nightclub back in the late 60s early 70s had to be closed down after the rumor that the devil made a visit one night
It has a pub, a (shut down) post office, a church and one of the finest small club set up's around... If only those lads up in Aughamore could run things aswell we'd have a mighty little parish! :P
I see Sligo are going ahead with their center. Wait till prenty gets a hold of them. They wont get the funding for it unless they raise it themselves.
And we've got Planning permission for our new County facilities near Oran.
The Rhus will have the Connacht funded centre all to themselves ( which I presume was the diabolical plan all along >:()
Quote from: ross4life on August 29, 2010, 11:59:36 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 29, 2010, 11:49:24 PM
Quote from: Coolio on August 29, 2010, 07:36:37 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on August 29, 2010, 07:19:59 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 29, 2010, 05:50:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on August 29, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
Any update on the Connacht center of Excellence Has construction started?
no the slog and ross lads here object put the kibosh on the whole thing
even though its much closer to most of them than to much of mayo anyway. I mean very few of us consider ballyhaunis really mayo anyway
Ya themselves and the Toreen boys run around with long flat sticks and small baseball/cricketball type yokes, very un-Mayolike.
It's Tooreen...get it right if your going to attempt to poke fun at us. ;)
is tooreen a real place? only place i know around there is cloonfaughna(spell checker seem to think that's wrong)
hell yeah sure tooreen used to have a famous ballroom/nightclub back in the late 60s early 70s had to be closed down after the rumor that the devil made a visit one night
No, it didn't have to shut down after Oul' Nick made his appearance. In fact, business was never better after the story got out and it was a case of punters being turned away every night the place was open for months afterwards. They came from miles around on their bikes and in their Morris Minors and Ford Anglias to try and catch a glimpse of His Satanic Majesty. The story goes that a fella staggered out of his local in Ballyhaunis one night to find his tractor had gone AWOL. He just turned to one of his mates and asked him to drive him out to Tooreen and there he found his Massey Ferguson. He claimed there were three or four other tractors in the car park when he arrived.
Business boomed and Tooreen overtook Knock in terms of people expecting to see paranormal apparitions and all that sort of stuff.
Of course the PP, Fr Horan, who was also manager of the dance hall, was delighted at the upturn in business but he stoutly denied that he had anything to do with the devil showing up.
He is reported to have said, "God works in mysterious ways but the bank manager only deals in pounds, shillings and pence and I am happy once he is happy."
Of course there was no truth in the scurrilous rumour that the good priest had got a couple of hardy bucks to grab a young puckan of a goat and slip him into the first unlocked car they came across. It seems the pair of lads knew the driver of the car and figured he'd be coming out soon with whoever he managed to bring out for a coortin' session. Anyway, the boyos shoved the goat into the back seat and kept watch. Their timing was bang on for they had hardly moved away when yer man and his coort arrived and got into the car for some serious aerobic training.
They were hardly in before they were out again, if you know what I mean!
The driver was almost in another way also for one of the pranksters said that it was priceless to see the poor lad running for his life and attempting to pull his trousers up at the same time.
But none of this happened of course and it all had to be lies and innuendo because Father (later Monsignor) Horan never told a lie- did he? ;D
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on December 02, 2010, 06:08:08 PM
I see Sligo are going ahead with their center. Wait till prenty gets a hold of them. They wont get the funding for it unless they raise it themselves.
Am I the only one who thinks its absurd that a paid employee of the GAA has so much power over those who employ him?
Quote from: magpie seanie on December 02, 2010, 10:01:20 PM
Quote from: Peter Solan the Great on December 02, 2010, 06:08:08 PM
I see Sligo are going ahead with their center. Wait till prenty gets a hold of them. They wont get the funding for it unless they raise it themselves.
Am I the only one who thinks its absurd that a paid employee of the GAA has so much power over those who employ him?
About as absurd as our employee, the Minister for Finance, telling us he did nothing wrong.
Sepp Blatter is an angel in comparison to the damage Prenty does.
paid officials should not be making policy decisions and strategic decisions, but focussed on day to day running of the GAA
Seems to have been a few jollys abroad out of it also. Ah but sure all for the good o' the poor aul school childer ... ;)
Officials defend €10m plan for new Mayo centre
"Connacht officials visited a wide variety of training facilities in Britain, including those of Manchester United and Fulham FC and Sale rugby club, to get ideas for their new project which will have six pitches, an indoor hall and indoor training and meeting facilities. "
"There may be lots of venues around but the problem is that schools cannot get into most of them to play their games," Prenty revealed. It is schools, and development squads, who will benefit most from this."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/officials-defend-836410m-plan-for-new-mayo-centre-1262721.html
Officials defend €10m plan for new Mayo centre
"Connacht officials visited a wide variety of training facilities in Britain, including those of Manchester United and Fulham FC and Sale rugby club, to get ideas for their new project which will have six pitches, an indoor hall and indoor training and meeting facilities. "
"There may be lots of venues around but the problem is that schools cannot get into most of them to play their games," Prenty revealed. It is MAYO schools, and MAYO development squads, who will benefit most from this."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/officials-defend-836410m-plan-for-new-mayo-centre-1262721.html
cleared that up for you
Quote from: neilthemac on December 03, 2010, 07:47:57 PM
Officials defend €10m plan for new Mayo centre
"Connacht officials visited a wide variety of training facilities in Britain, including those of Manchester United and Fulham FC and Sale rugby club, to get ideas for their new project which will have six pitches, an indoor hall and indoor training and meeting facilities. "
"There may be lots of venues around but the problem is that schools cannot get into most of them to play their games," Prenty revealed. It is MAYO schools, and MAYO development squads, who will benefit most from this."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/officials-defend-836410m-plan-for-new-mayo-centre-1262721.html
cleared that up for you
A far higher percentage of Roscommon is closer to Ballyhaunis than most of Mayo.
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 04, 2010, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on December 03, 2010, 07:47:57 PM
Officials defend €10m plan for new Mayo centre
"Connacht officials visited a wide variety of training facilities in Britain, including those of Manchester United and Fulham FC and Sale rugby club, to get ideas for their new project which will have six pitches, an indoor hall and indoor training and meeting facilities. "
"There may be lots of venues around but the problem is that schools cannot get into most of them to play their games," Prenty revealed. It is MAYO schools, and MAYO development squads, who will benefit most from this."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/officials-defend-836410m-plan-for-new-mayo-centre-1262721.html
cleared that up for you
A far higher percentage of Roscommon is closer to Ballyhaunis than most of Mayo.
so what?
Roscommon will have their own centre built for their teams, schools and development panels. what use will this white elephant in the middle of a bog in Mayo be then to Ros GAA? or to Galway GAA. Or Sligo. Or Leitrim?
Quote from: neilthemac on December 04, 2010, 03:26:30 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 04, 2010, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on December 03, 2010, 07:47:57 PM
Officials defend €10m plan for new Mayo centre
"Connacht officials visited a wide variety of training facilities in Britain, including those of Manchester United and Fulham FC and Sale rugby club, to get ideas for their new project which will have six pitches, an indoor hall and indoor training and meeting facilities. "
"There may be lots of venues around but the problem is that schools cannot get into most of them to play their games," Prenty revealed. It is MAYO schools, and MAYO development squads, who will benefit most from this."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/officials-defend-836410m-plan-for-new-mayo-centre-1262721.html
cleared that up for you
A far higher percentage of Roscommon is closer to Ballyhaunis than most of Mayo.
so what?
Roscommon will have their own centre built for their teams, schools and development panels. what use will this white elephant in the middle of a bog in Mayo be then to Ros GAA? or to Galway GAA. Or Sligo. Or Leitrim?
In the case of Roscommon, presumably as much use as you wish to make of it. If your CBs decision is to press ahead with your own one despite one being provided on your doorstep, then no use at all. Given where the country's at right now, having a combined facility makes more sense than ever.
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on December 04, 2010, 05:09:05 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on December 04, 2010, 03:26:30 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on December 04, 2010, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: neilthemac on December 03, 2010, 07:47:57 PM
Officials defend €10m plan for new Mayo centre
"Connacht officials visited a wide variety of training facilities in Britain, including those of Manchester United and Fulham FC and Sale rugby club, to get ideas for their new project which will have six pitches, an indoor hall and indoor training and meeting facilities. "
"There may be lots of venues around but the problem is that schools cannot get into most of them to play their games," Prenty revealed. It is MAYO schools, and MAYO development squads, who will benefit most from this."
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/officials-defend-836410m-plan-for-new-mayo-centre-1262721.html
cleared that up for you
A far higher percentage of Roscommon is closer to Ballyhaunis than most of Mayo.
so what?
Roscommon will have their own centre built for their teams, schools and development panels. what use will this white elephant in the middle of a bog in Mayo be then to Ros GAA? or to Galway GAA. Or Sligo. Or Leitrim?
In the case of Roscommon, presumably as much use as you wish to make of it. If your CBs decision is to press ahead with your own one despite one being provided on your doorstep, then no use at all. Given where the country's at right now, having a combined facility makes more sense than ever.
Thats BS
county teams need facilities locally. you need a county-central venue for parents bringing kids, getting teams together for training and games, and senior players travelling from outside the county for training (mainly galway and dublin)
by the time you factor in the costs of buses. mileage expenses. wear and tear on lads' cars
What if Croke Park, what if the whole province thought this was a white elephant and still Prenty has got this passed. What does that tell you if true?
Prenty knows how the GAA works, wasnt it him who got the new handpass introduced.
Sligos New Centre will be built this time in next yr so Connacht and mayo can stick this white elephant up there holes for all i care. The clowns only mistake was they didnt build it in the centre of mayo so it does suit the west or north club players.
http://connachtgaa.ie/news/connacht-gaa-granted-e2-1-million-development-new-state-art-indoor-facility/
The indoor element of the project is going ahead now, can someone explain how it's going to be open to other sports? It seems a bit unfair that clubs can't share their facilities but Connacht council can.
Bloody waste of money.
Plus they already have a gym, Why the need for another one?
What is the considered opinion
Was it a white Elephant waste of money used only by Mayo teams? ir is hard to kno how everyone survived before it existed?
Sports facilities are never a waste of time or a waste of money. I'd say due to its location, Mayo teams probably do get the biggest benefit - Mayo club games played there I understand??? I think though that most clubs in the province would have used it at some point and it's obviously well utilised by schools and colleges etc. I think some people in Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon mainly were moe concerned about their own county centres and would have preferred the money to go to those projects instead. Sligo seem to have gotten over that anyway - their centre of excellence looks really good.
I firmly believe though that a subsidised floodlighting programme for clubs in counties that are a good distance from Dublin (most of Connacht for example) would be a worthwhile programme that Connacht GAA should look at.
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
Dunno. The cost of laying down a top class pitch by Prunty or the likes could cost a lot more than a half-decent Astro one.
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
No cutting
Less maintenance
No mud
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
No cutting
Less maintenance
No mud
More cruciates.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
No cutting
Less maintenance
No mud
Play basketball then.
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 11:36:56 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
No cutting
Less maintenance
No mud
Play basketball then.
You can play 3 schools games in a day on a 3G pitch
Or colleges games or primary school blitzes.
In any weather
That is why they are useful
Instead of wasting money on Fenway classics and sending Gaelic footballs out to africa we need to invest in facilities for the grassroots.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 11:48:27 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 11:36:56 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
No cutting
Less maintenance
No mud
Play basketball then.
You can play 3 schools games in a day on a 3G pitch
Or colleges games or primary school blitzes.
In any weather
That is why they are useful
Instead of wasting money on Fenway classics and sending Gaelic footballs out to africa we need to invest in facilities for the grassroots.
have you any evidence to back up how many of the above games are being cancelled/not played due to lack of Astro pitches. Not that many I am guessing. They are terrible for injuries in GAA and I think it is bad news having kids playing on them. Invest on properly professionally fiited grass pitches with proper drainage is likely more cost effective and better for injuries.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 11:48:27 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 11:36:56 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
No cutting
Less maintenance
No mud
Play basketball then.
You can play 3 schools games in a day on a 3G pitch
Or colleges games or primary school blitzes.
In any weather
That is why they are useful
Instead of wasting money on Fenway classics and sending Gaelic footballs out to africa we need to invest in facilities for the grassroots.
Did the fenway classic lose momey I thought it made a profit?
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 11:36:56 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
No cutting
Less maintenance
No mud
Play basketball then.
Where would your clubs nursery, U8s and U10s train during the winter months at the moment? Ours train in a floodlit community 3g pitch and we'd be snookered without.
How many games could these well maintained grass pitches you speak of host per day / week from Nov through to March ?
There's not a single club in the country wouldn't take a 3g floodlit setup with both hands to maintain training throughout the year
Itchy just likes grass because he's a donkey
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2.1 million from rural regeneration funding. Balance from fundraising which has been ongoing. Say what you like but when most of us thought this was a pie in the sky idea, John Prenty has seen it to fruition. The concept of a fully indoor pitch for that little money is mind boggling. Feck the begrudgers. The best sports administrator in the country by a mile.
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Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
No cutting
Less maintenance
No mud
Play basketball then.
You can play 3 schools games in a day on a 3G pitch
Or colleges games or primary school blitzes.
In any weather
That is why they are useful
Instead of wasting money on Fenway classics and sending Gaelic footballs out to africa we need to invest in facilities for the grassroots.
have you any evidence to back up how many of the above games are being cancelled/not played due to lack of Astro pitches. Not that many I am guessing. They are terrible for injuries in GAA and I think it is bad news having kids playing on them. Invest on properly professionally fiited grass pitches with proper drainage is likely more cost effective and better for injuries.
Is there any proof of what you are saying regarding prevalence of injuries for GAA players on astro turf pitches?
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Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
No cutting
Less maintenance
No mud
Play basketball then.
You can play 3 schools games in a day on a 3G pitch
Or colleges games or primary school blitzes.
In any weather
That is why they are useful
Instead of wasting money on Fenway classics and sending Gaelic footballs out to africa we need to invest in facilities for the grassroots.
have you any evidence to back up how many of the above games are being cancelled/not played due to lack of Astro pitches. Not that many I am guessing. They are terrible for injuries in GAA and I think it is bad news having kids playing on them. Invest on properly professionally fiited grass pitches with proper drainage is likely more cost effective and better for injuries.
Is there any proof of what you are saying regarding prevalence of injuries for GAA players on astro turf pitches?
Of all the cruciate injuries in recent years in Derry, and we've had our fair share, I can't remember any happening on 3g pitches. I'm sure there has been but none that I'm aware of, certainly no high profile ones.
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Quote from: Itchy on November 26, 2018, 11:36:56 PM
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Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
No cutting
Less maintenance
No mud
Play basketball then.
Where would your clubs nursery, U8s and U10s train during the winter months at the moment? Ours train in a floodlit community 3g pitch and we'd be snookered without.
How many games could these well maintained grass pitches you speak of host per day / week from Nov through to March ?
There's not a single club in the country wouldn't take a 3g floodlit setup with both hands to maintain training throughout the year
Well I beg to differ and I am deeply involved in coaching at my club
1- I do not believe in "all year round" nurseries. Kids and coaches need a break. We are predominately a summer sport. My club take this approach and when we come up against the ones go all year around (or at least try to, as most dont even succeed due to other sports with competitive games in winter kicking in) we do very well indeed. I say do less but do it well. You just sicken kids and parents going all year around.
2- An astro pitch, say 80m x 25m with lights and fence will cost around 100k, assuming you have the land to build on and no major ground works to do. Now it depends on the club but if my club had 100k to spend we would buy a neighbouring field and start to develop another grass pitch. If you have 2/3 grass pitches and someone looking after them and managing their use they are far superior to 3G.
3- If you really want Astro for winter work with your nurseries well there are tonnes of them out there. There are at least 5 withina 10 minute drive of our club and we are in the country side.
4- If you are thinking small kids in winter surely it is an indoor hall you are looking for now out door astro. Is it not cold and wet that would be the biggest turn off? Again, there are lots and lots of halls already built in the country.
So I think the notion that every GAA club would spend 100k on an Astro is not correct at all, it would be way down the list of things I would do.
I never said every club
One or two in each county available to play club games in any weather would be huge.
You could run primary school blitzes all year round.
Colleges and 3rd level games need neutral venues.
An indoor pitch in the middle of nowhere in Mayo isn't much use to most gaa people in connacht for playing games
Quote from: Itchy on November 27, 2018, 02:55:39 PM
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Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 07:47:04 PM
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Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 26, 2018, 05:57:23 PM
Floodlit all weather pitches are needed in the West and midlands
To play club games and school games all year
Most clubs and counties cannot afford to put in those sort of facilities
Why all weather. If they were grass and done properly they wouldnt need to be Astro. Astro is not good for GAA in my opinion.
No cutting
Less maintenance
No mud
Play basketball then.
Where would your clubs nursery, U8s and U10s train during the winter months at the moment? Ours train in a floodlit community 3g pitch and we'd be snookered without.
How many games could these well maintained grass pitches you speak of host per day / week from Nov through to March ?
There's not a single club in the country wouldn't take a 3g floodlit setup with both hands to maintain training throughout the year
Well I beg to differ and I am deeply involved in coaching at my club
1- I do not believe in "all year round" nurseries. Kids and coaches need a break. We are predominately a summer sport. My club take this approach and when we come up against the ones go all year around (or at least try to, as most dont even succeed due to other sports with competitive games in winter kicking in) we do very well indeed. I say do less but do it well. You just sicken kids and parents going all year around.
2- An astro pitch, say 80m x 25m with lights and fence will cost around 100k, assuming you have the land to build on and no major ground works to do. Now it depends on the club but if my club had 100k to spend we would buy a neighbouring field and start to develop another grass pitch. If you have 2/3 grass pitches and someone looking after them and managing their use they are far superior to 3G.
3- If you really want Astro for winter work with your nurseries well there are tonnes of them out there. There are at least 5 withina 10 minute drive of our club and we are in the country side.
4- If you are thinking small kids in winter surely it is an indoor hall you are looking for now out door astro. Is it not cold and wet that would be the biggest turn off? Again, there are lots and lots of halls already built in the country.
So I think the notion that every GAA club would spend 100k on an Astro is not correct at all, it would be way down the list of things I would do.
Who is saying these bits in bold?
To summarise, youse have tonnes of indoor halls and 3g pitches available, count yourself very lucky, and the midlands and west
don't need more 3g pitches, they need better grass pitches?
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 27, 2018, 10:30:04 PM
I never said every club
One or two in each county available to play club games in any weather would be huge.
You could run primary school blitzes all year round.
Colleges and 3rd level games need neutral venues.
An indoor pitch in the middle of nowhere in Mayo isn't much use to most gaa people in connacht for playing games
100% agree
It's a bit perplexing how Galway, or more specifically the Galway hurling interests, agreed to this. More funding for a facility rarely if ever used by the main playing base in the province. Granted the hurling don't have as many ties to CC anymore but this will still be considered Connacht GAA funding by the Rural dept. Galway CB continues to be in disarray
Quote from: Manning18 on November 28, 2018, 03:34:17 PM
It's a bit perplexing how Galway, or more specifically the Galway hurling interests, agreed to this. More funding for a facility rarely if ever used by the main playing base in the province. Granted the hurling don't have as many ties to CC anymore but this will still be considered Connacht GAA funding by the Rural dept. Galway CB continues to be in disarray
Look who gave the funding
Parish pump politics
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 27, 2018, 10:30:04 PM
I never said every club
One or two in each county available to play club games in any weather would be huge.
You could run primary school blitzes all year round.
Colleges and 3rd level games need neutral venues.
An indoor pitch in the middle of nowhere in Mayo isn't much use to most gaa people in connacht for playing games
Bekan is pretty centrally located in Connacht so you've contradicted yourself in two successive paragraphs.
Quote from: Syferus on November 28, 2018, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 27, 2018, 10:30:04 PM
I never said every club
One or two in each county available to play club games in any weather would be huge.
You could run primary school blitzes all year round.
Colleges and 3rd level games need neutral venues.
An indoor pitch in the middle of nowhere in Mayo isn't much use to most gaa people in connacht for playing games
Bekan is pretty centrally located in Connacht so you've contradicted yourself in two successive paragraphs.
If NUIG or GMIT play Sligo IT or Athlone IT where suits? If Jarlaths play Summerhill, Muredachs, Ross CBS, Gerards, Carrick does Bekan suit?
If there is a Connacht underage tournament it is pretty damn central. Loads of parking and great facilities.
Quote from: Syferus on November 28, 2018, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 27, 2018, 10:30:04 PM
I never said every club
One or two in each county available to play club games in any weather would be huge.
You could run primary school blitzes all year round.
Colleges and 3rd level games need neutral venues.
An indoor pitch in the middle of nowhere in Mayo isn't much use to most gaa people in connacht for playing games
Bekan is pretty centrally located in Connacht so you've contradicted yourself in two successive paragraphs.
An hours drive from Bekan and would take you to about 90% of football clubs in Connaught
Why on earth would a club spend two hours travelling to Bekan (an hour each way) ?
The only time our players have ever used bekan is for ted web matches, some of them may have played there for their schools.
Could you imagine the impact this money would have if distributed to all the counties ? I would much prefer to see rural clubs getting grants so that they could install flood lights. In Galway wouldn't all the rural clubs around Tuam love to see Tuam Stadium lit up.
Any idea how much is it going to cost to maintain this facility ? money the connaught council wont have to invest in coaching every year going forward.
€10m or so of the Soccer/Rubby rent from Croke Park spent on what's there already.
Anither €11m? on this big shed.
If each of the Counties had got a decent slice of that to provide all weather floodlit pitches at strategic locations in their Counties plus a Central County "centre of excellence"....
Galway wouldn't have bought a field and sold it at half the price and have their finances under investigation.
We'd have Runnabracken up and running and the Hyde at full capacity plus decent facilities in the West and North of the County.
I'm sure the other 3 would have put the funds to much needed use too.
Quote from: Syferus on November 28, 2018, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 27, 2018, 10:30:04 PM
I never said every club
One or two in each county available to play club games in any weather would be huge.
You could run primary school blitzes all year round.
Colleges and 3rd level games need neutral venues.
An indoor pitch in the middle of nowhere in Mayo isn't much use to most gaa people in connacht for playing games
Bekan is pretty centrally located in Connacht so you've contradicted yourself in two successive paragraphs.
You're the master of contradiction
What would you know about club, school or college GAA activity?
Quote from: thebackbar1 on November 29, 2018, 04:22:56 PM
Why on earth would a club spend two hours travelling to Bekan (an hour each way) ?
The only time our players have ever used bekan is for ted web matches, some of them may have played there for their schools.
Could you imagine the impact this money would have if distributed to all the counties ? I would much prefer to see rural clubs getting grants so that they could install flood lights. In Galway wouldn't all the rural clubs around Tuam love to see Tuam Stadium lit up.
Any idea how much is it going to cost to maintain this facility ? money the connaught council wont have to invest in coaching every year going forward.
You're missing the point
Clubs routinely travel the best part of an hour for matches as it stands
Why not travel the hour to a great facility that has all weather pitches.
Quote from: whitey on November 29, 2018, 07:27:38 PM
Quote from: thebackbar1 on November 29, 2018, 04:22:56 PM
Why on earth would a club spend two hours travelling to Bekan (an hour each way) ?
The only time our players have ever used bekan is for ted web matches, some of them may have played there for their schools.
Could you imagine the impact this money would have if distributed to all the counties ? I would much prefer to see rural clubs getting grants so that they could install flood lights. In Galway wouldn't all the rural clubs around Tuam love to see Tuam Stadium lit up.
Any idea how much is it going to cost to maintain this facility ? money the connaught council wont have to invest in coaching every year going forward.
You're missing the point
Clubs routinely travel the best part of an hour for matches as it stands
Why not travel the hour to a great facility that has all weather pitches.
Schools don't and shouldn't
Underage club teams don't
Ehhh.... there was a Secondary School game there TODAY between St Nathys and Claregalway
There were 2 other schools games played there within the past week
http://connachtgaa.ie/fixtures-results/
Quote from: whitey on November 29, 2018, 08:39:47 PM
Ehhh.... there was a Secondary School game there TODAY between St Nathys and Claregalway
There were 2 other schools games played there within the past week
http://connachtgaa.ie/fixtures-results/
Ok. I was referring to primary school games and blitzes
Quote from: whitey on November 29, 2018, 07:27:38 PM
Quote from: thebackbar1 on November 29, 2018, 04:22:56 PM
Why on earth would a club spend two hours travelling to Bekan (an hour each way) ?
The only time our players have ever used bekan is for ted web matches, some of them may have played there for their schools.
Could you imagine the impact this money would have if distributed to all the counties ? I would much prefer to see rural clubs getting grants so that they could install flood lights. In Galway wouldn't all the rural clubs around Tuam love to see Tuam Stadium lit up.
Any idea how much is it going to cost to maintain this facility ? money the connaught council wont have to invest in coaching every year going forward.
You're missing the point
Clubs routinely travel the best part of an hour for matches as it stands
Why not travel the hour to a great facility that has all weather pitches.
Would a club team travel over an hour to play on a artificial surface indoors? I honestly don't think they would, unless they were preparing for a match on a artificial surface.
Our club has never traveled to Bekan for a match.
I'm sure is a great facility for the clubs around bekan, but imho there was better ways this money could be spent.
The new indoor dome looks a great project. The biggest Air dome facility in Europea. Not cheap at 3million,can cater for 600 spectators.
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 24, 2020, 11:26:18 AM
The new indoor dome looks a great project. The biggest Air dome facility in Europea. Not cheap at 3million,can cater for 600 spectators.
and Debt free already.
Lets give credit where its due .
Can we have a round of applause for John Prenty
I honestly think it's pretty amazing. There are an awful lot of schools games played here and the air dome means there's certainty the games will go ahead. It's an outstanding facility.
A lot of people giving out but this will be a great facility to have. So many games get switched to Bekan last minute due to bad weather.
I think its an incredible structure, can't wait to get a look at it.
Can it be easily dismantled in case of red wind warnings? Or even partially?
Quote from: rosnarun on July 24, 2020, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 24, 2020, 11:26:18 AM
The new indoor dome looks a great project. The biggest Air dome facility in Europea. Not cheap at 3million,can cater for 600 spectators.
and Debt free already.
Lets give credit where its due .
Can we have a round of applause for John Prenty
What's the annual maintenance cost?
Asking for a friend
Due to covid can indoor games take place?
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 28, 2020, 02:56:10 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 24, 2020, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 24, 2020, 11:26:18 AM
The new indoor dome looks a great project. The biggest Air dome facility in Europea. Not cheap at 3million,can cater for 600 spectators.
and Debt free already.
Lets give credit where its due .
Can we have a round of applause for John Prenty
What's the annual maintenance cost?
Asking for a friend
Due to covid can indoor games take place?
As it stands only 50 people allowed for indoor gatherings.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 28, 2020, 02:56:10 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 24, 2020, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 24, 2020, 11:26:18 AM
The new indoor dome looks a great project. The biggest Air dome facility in Europea. Not cheap at 3million,can cater for 600 spectators.
and Debt free already.
Lets give credit where its due .
Can we have a round of applause for John Prenty
What's the annual maintenance cost?
Asking for a friend
Due to covid can indoor games take place?
All it needs is hot air to keep it inflated and there's plenty of that blowing in from Roscommon direction ;)
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 28, 2020, 02:56:10 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on July 24, 2020, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on July 24, 2020, 11:26:18 AM
The new indoor dome looks a great project. The biggest Air dome facility in Europea. Not cheap at 3million,can cater for 600 spectators.
and Debt free already.
Lets give credit where its due .
Can we have a round of applause for John Prenty
What's the annual maintenance cost?
Asking for a friend
Due to covid can indoor games take place?
400 per month to keep inflated I read.
Playing an indoor game in a massive dome would be far less risky than having 30 kids and a teacher in one classroom.
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 27, 2020, 06:15:02 PM
Can it be easily dismantled in case of red wind warnings? Or even partially?
I wouldn't think it needs to?
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Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 27, 2020, 06:15:02 PM
Can it be easily dismantled in case of red wind warnings? Or even partially?
I wouldn't think it needs to?
Is it really that robust a structure? Well done if it is.
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 29, 2020, 02:42:08 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 29, 2020, 01:10:06 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 27, 2020, 06:15:02 PM
Can it be easily dismantled in case of red wind warnings? Or even partially?
I wouldn't think it needs to?
Is it really that robust a structure? Well done if it is.
I'd say perhaps in extreme weather conditions the dome could be deflated and battended down fairly quickly and easily. I'm sure the weather conditions in thw west were taken into account!
It would be great if this inflatable roof idea could be used on between stands , for instance it would transform the new Casement if this technology could be used.
Quote from: magpie seanie on July 29, 2020, 10:21:42 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 29, 2020, 02:42:08 AM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on July 29, 2020, 01:10:06 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 27, 2020, 06:15:02 PM
Can it be easily dismantled in case of red wind warnings? Or even partially?
I wouldn't think it needs to?
Is it really that robust a structure? Well done if it is.
I'd say perhaps in extreme weather conditions the dome could be deflated and battended down fairly quickly and easily. I'm sure the weather conditions in thw west were taken into account!
Castle bar tennis club habve a smaller one . without issues afaik
With Ring gone to the backbenches there'll be no more taxpayer funding sh1te all over Mayo. ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on July 29, 2020, 05:48:16 PM
With Ring gone to the backbenches there'll be no more taxpayer funding sh1te all over Mayo. ;)
Depends what part of mayonyouvare in and also Ring was a spoofer too, claiming he had something to do with all the sports capital grant allocation in Mayo. Total bullshit, he and all goverment tds are given a list of successful projects a few days before they are officially released so they can ring around and claim they got them. There were media reports to that end at the last allocation. But sure the gombeen bogmen will all believe magic minister ring got them the money like the great flynn got them "the road".
Rather than start a new thread.
Has any of your clubs installed a rebound wall? Any recommendations for suppliers/installers?
Quote from: BenDover on August 15, 2020, 06:25:47 AM
Rather than start a new thread.
Has any of your clubs installed a rebound wall? Any recommendations for suppliers/installers?
Our community put a rebound wall at the side of the Astro turf. Great job!
(https://i0.wp.com/ballyvarybbfc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Astro-corner-view.jpg?fit=1124%2C843&ssl=1)
At last the balloon comes in handy!
Best of luck to all the Rossie competitors
https://www.gaa.ie/news/chonnacht-s-air-dome-to-host-this-weekend-s-scor-sinsir-2020-finals/
The Air Dome looks class inside https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAMfz47FWKs