Derry Club Football & Hurling original

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cornerback

Historically, Glenullin would never have been promoted to senior championship on the basis of their intermediate championship wins (unless they nominated themselves).
At the start of last year they would've been aware that winning the intermediate championship would not have gained them promotion to the senior championship - did they appeal at this time?
And if Banagher hadn't totally messed up in the final few minutes of last years final there wouldn't be a word about it  ;)
They'll have the bit between their teeth to make it 3-in-a-row now though.

shawshank

Its interesting to read that one poster doesn't think our county players sacrifice anything to play county football.  :o 

OakLeaf

Quote from: shawshank on March 07, 2024, 01:22:46 PMIts interesting to read that one poster doesn't think our county players sacrifice anything to play county football.  :o 

The poster clearly hasn't played at a high level and has no idea of the sacrifice involved. It's not just the sacrifice, it's the stress of playing at that level and all of the public scrutiny that goes with it. Of course the lads are willing to make that sacrifice because they enjoy it, but it isn't easy by any stretch. On saying that, everybody is entitled to their opinion :)

Derryman forever

Quote from: OakLeaf on March 07, 2024, 02:28:57 PM
Quote from: shawshank on March 07, 2024, 01:22:46 PMIts interesting to read that one poster doesn't think our county players sacrifice anything to play county football.  :o 

The poster clearly hasn't played at a high level and has no idea of the sacrifice involved. It's not just the sacrifice, it's the stress of playing at that level and all of the public scrutiny that goes with it. Of course the lads are willing to make that sacrifice because they enjoy it, but it isn't easy by any stretch. On saying that, everybody is entitled to their opinion :)


Entitled to an opinion but facts are not subject to opinion

Wildweasel74

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I remember Faughanvale win 3 out 4 intermediate  championships in the 90's ,they weren't biting at the bullet to go onto senior like Glenullin, as they knew what happen to them.

lenny

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 07, 2024, 03:39:24 PMI remember Faughanvale win 3 out 4 intermediate  championships in the 90's ,they weren't biting at the bullet to go onto senior like Glemullin, as they knew what happen to them.

I've sympathy for Glenullin and I think they're a brilliant club but they wouldn't get within 20 points of Glen or Slaughtneil. They'll get a real good test at intermediate this year and a 3 in a row would be a brilliant achievement.

Rawhide

They wouldn't get within ten pts of any of the 12 senior teams and i am being generous. Additionally they haven't a chance winning intermediate with Ballinderry and Coleraine now in that grade. Feel free to pull this post out next October.
cccc is a true supporter lol

Silver hill

Quote from: Derryman forever on March 07, 2024, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on March 07, 2024, 02:28:57 PM
Quote from: shawshank on March 07, 2024, 01:22:46 PMIts interesting to read that one poster doesn't think our county players sacrifice anything to play county football.  :o 

The poster clearly hasn't played at a high level and has no idea of the sacrifice involved. It's not just the sacrifice, it's the stress of playing at that level and all of the public scrutiny that goes with it. Of course the lads are willing to make that sacrifice because they enjoy it, but it isn't easy by any stretch. On saying that, everybody is entitled to their opinion :)


Entitled to an opinion but facts are not subject to opinion


If you've the talent and you're invited to play county, it's a lifestyle choice, not a sacrifice.
99% are young and unmarried. You've decided to go and train at an elite level with similarly talented individuals, instead of what... playing golf with your mates, going out pinting, lying on the sofa on the PlayStation? Those are not sacrafices.

Wildweasel74

Point is,the time to make the argument  was at day 1 when it was suggested.Not when it was only relevant to a certain few clubs. The idea is to made club football stronger especially Intermediate and Junior as they get eat alive in the ulster club championships by counties altering their set up to make themselves stronger at this level. Glenullin entered the Senior championship one year, when in Intermediate,they wouldn't have won Ulster Intermediate that year, we never know. maybe they think Intermediate football beneath them.

JoG2

Quote from: Silver hill on March 07, 2024, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on March 07, 2024, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on March 07, 2024, 02:28:57 PM
Quote from: shawshank on March 07, 2024, 01:22:46 PMIts interesting to read that one poster doesn't think our county players sacrifice anything to play county football.  :o 

The poster clearly hasn't played at a high level and has no idea of the sacrifice involved. It's not just the sacrifice, it's the stress of playing at that level and all of the public scrutiny that goes with it. Of course the lads are willing to make that sacrifice because they enjoy it, but it isn't easy by any stretch. On saying that, everybody is entitled to their opinion :)


Entitled to an opinion but facts are not subject to opinion


If you've the talent and you're invited to play county, it's a lifestyle choice, not a sacrifice.
99% are young and unmarried. You've decided to go and train at an elite level with similarly talented individuals, instead of what... playing golf with your mates, going out pinting, lying on the sofa on the PlayStation? Those are not sacrafices.

And that lifestyle choice doesn't include a lot of sacrifices?

Silver hill

Quote from: JoG2 on March 07, 2024, 09:29:16 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on March 07, 2024, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on March 07, 2024, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on March 07, 2024, 02:28:57 PM
Quote from: shawshank on March 07, 2024, 01:22:46 PMIts interesting to read that one poster doesn't think our county players sacrifice anything to play county football.  :o 

The poster clearly hasn't played at a high level and has no idea of the sacrifice involved. It's not just the sacrifice, it's the stress of playing at that level and all of the public scrutiny that goes with it. Of course the lads are willing to make that sacrifice because they enjoy it, but it isn't easy by any stretch. On saying that, everybody is entitled to their opinion :)


Entitled to an opinion but facts are not subject to opinion


If you've the talent and you're invited to play county, it's a lifestyle choice, not a sacrifice.
99% are young and unmarried. You've decided to go and train at an elite level with similarly talented individuals, instead of what... playing golf with your mates, going out pinting, lying on the sofa on the PlayStation? Those are not sacrafices.

And that lifestyle choice doesn't include a lot of sacrifices?
If you're married there are some things that you might miss out on that would merit being called a sacrifice. Possibly a p1 nativity play if you we training and had a kid that age.
As I said earlier, very few are married. I can't think of anything that would qualify as a sacrifice for a single fella. Possibly a promotion at work because you don't do overtime because of training? Though to counterbalance that, county players do benefit from getting roles ahead of non county players because of profile and door opening opportunities specifically because they're county players.

imtommygunn


Duine Inteacht Eile

What do you regard as a sacrifice?

I'm interested to know what difference being married makes to this also.

JoG2

Quote from: Silver hill on March 07, 2024, 09:55:22 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 07, 2024, 09:29:16 PM
Quote from: Silver hill on March 07, 2024, 09:06:53 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on March 07, 2024, 03:16:14 PM
Quote from: OakLeaf on March 07, 2024, 02:28:57 PM
Quote from: shawshank on March 07, 2024, 01:22:46 PMIts interesting to read that one poster doesn't think our county players sacrifice anything to play county football.  :o 

The poster clearly hasn't played at a high level and has no idea of the sacrifice involved. It's not just the sacrifice, it's the stress of playing at that level and all of the public scrutiny that goes with it. Of course the lads are willing to make that sacrifice because they enjoy it, but it isn't easy by any stretch. On saying that, everybody is entitled to their opinion :)


Entitled to an opinion but facts are not subject to opinion


If you've the talent and you're invited to play county, it's a lifestyle choice, not a sacrifice.
99% are young and unmarried. You've decided to go and train at an elite level with similarly talented individuals, instead of what... playing golf with your mates, going out pinting, lying on the sofa on the PlayStation? Those are not sacrafices.

And that lifestyle choice doesn't include a lot of sacrifices?
If you're married there are some things that you might miss out on that would merit being called a sacrifice. Possibly a p1 nativity play if you we training and had a kid that age.
As I said earlier, very few are married. I can't think of anything that would qualify as a sacrifice for a single fella. Possibly a promotion at work because you don't do overtime because of training? Though to counterbalance that, county players do benefit from getting roles ahead of non county players because of profile and door opening opportunities specifically because they're county players.

Surely the very definition of making a lifestyle choice, is that you are sacrificing other things?

And the fact this group of men have done this, even through choice is that we've all had many great days out the last number of years.

ClubScene13

I think most of these boys are laughing career wise on the contrary.
The amount of current and former Tyrone players teaching within the county is some coincidence given how hard it is to find permanent posts in the north. Not to mention the Cathal McShane / Keystone debacle.
If we're talking sacrifices I don't think "career" is bothering too many of them.
Now sheer time given up is another thing altogether, and they deserve to be commended for it. I think any chance they get for a break is well deserved.