Things that make you go What the F**k?

[Milltown Row2]

For a country with fairly high average wage in comparison to the likes of the uk it's a bit strange that they'd be out rioting and complaining about things.. Seafoid will be outraged

[armaghniac]

I don't honestly think this is facism or extremism at play.

There's the bored youths pushing the boundaries. There's a pitchfork wielding mob that have neither the brains nor the interest to consider why they swing their pitchforks; it's just what they do. There's the vile, opportunistic scum making hay from the madness.

But the underlying current that has swollen and caused this, I genuinely believed, is fuelled by a housing crisis that has become a time bomb. The working classes and middle classes are getting financially obliterated in Dublin, as a direct cost of rent and housing. And that means it is not the right time for government to be taking in tens of thousands of refugees.

Refugees have a limited effect on the housing market. Immigration by well paid people in Intel or Google may well have more effect as these people can afford the rent. However, this group are paying their way and are paying for the scumbags who are looting Dublin tonight.

[thewobbler]

I don't honestly think this is facism or extremism at play.

There's the bored youths pushing the boundaries. There's a pitchfork wielding mob that have neither the brains nor the interest to consider why they swing their pitchforks; it's just what they do. There's the vile, opportunistic scum making hay from the madness.

But the underlying current that has swollen and caused this, I genuinely believed, is fuelled by a housing crisis that has become a time bomb. The working classes and middle classes are getting financially obliterated in Dublin, as a direct cost of rent and housing. And that means it is not the right time for government to be taking in tens of thousands of refugees.

Refugees have a limited effect on the housing market. Immigration by well paid people in Intel or Google may well have more effect as these people can afford the rent. However, this group are paying their way and are paying for the scumbags who are looting Dublin tonight.

Whether refugees have a limited effect on the housing market is irrelevant.

What is relevant is that there's a rising tide of Irish people whose only opportunity to continue living where they're from, is to hand over the vast majority of their income to landlords (or, if they're lucky, to a bank). The government has taken almost no steps to prevent this happening.

But at the same time, the government is housing, feeding and paying people to come into the country, not to work.

As a policy it doesn't run along parallel lines with the housing crisis. But it does present any Irish person who is enduring financial struggles and concerns about their future, with a pretty rational reason to distrust their government, and the longer it continues, too begin hating their government. When a sizeable group of people of this mindset are found in the same area, plenty of them will be bored, plenty of them will be pitchfork wielders by nature and plenty of them will be vile scum. Meaning that peaceful protests will only go one way. It's a tinderbox just waiting for a spark. 

Pinning what has happened here on the far right, or on racism or extremism, well I think that's a cop out, and one that leans too heavily on the polarised culture of across the Atlantic. There's a closer-to-home problem running through Dublin today.

[Milltown Row2]

I don't honestly think this is facism or extremism at play.

There's the bored youths pushing the boundaries. There's a pitchfork wielding mob that have neither the brains nor the interest to consider why they swing their pitchforks; it's just what they do. There's the vile, opportunistic scum making hay from the madness.

But the underlying current that has swollen and caused this, I genuinely believed, is fuelled by a housing crisis that has become a time bomb. The working classes and middle classes are getting financially obliterated in Dublin, as a direct cost of rent and housing. And that means it is not the right time for government to be taking in tens of thousands of refugees.

Refugees have a limited effect on the housing market. Immigration by well paid people in Intel or Google may well have more effect as these people can afford the rent. However, this group are paying their way and are paying for the scumbags who are looting Dublin tonight.

Whether refugees have a limited effect on the housing market is irrelevant.

What is relevant is that there's a rising tide of Irish people whose only opportunity to continue living where they're from, is to hand over the vast majority of their income to landlords (or, if they're lucky, to a bank). The government has taken almost no steps to prevent this happening.

But at the same time, the government is housing, feeding and paying people to come into the country, not to work.

As a policy it doesn't run along parallel lines with the housing crisis. But it does present any Irish person who is enduring financial struggles and concerns about their future, with a pretty rational reason to distrust their government, and the longer it continues, too begin hating their government. When a sizeable group of people of this mindset are found in the same area, plenty of them will be bored, plenty of them will be pitchfork wielders by nature and plenty of them will be vile scum. Meaning that peaceful protests will only go one way. It's a tinderbox just waiting for a spark. 

Pinning what has happened here on the far right, or on racism or extremism, well I think that's a cop out, and one that leans too heavily on the polarised culture of across the Atlantic. There's a closer-to-home problem running through Dublin today.

So the south's economy isn't as rosy as some would suggest? Strange

[armaghniac]

As a policy it doesn't run along parallel lines with the housing crisis. But it does present any Irish person who is enduring financial struggles and concerns about their future, with a pretty rational reason to distrust their government, and the longer it continues, too begin hating their government. When a sizeable group of people of this mindset are found in the same area, plenty of them will be bored, plenty of them will be pitchfork wielders by nature and plenty of them will be vile scum. Meaning that peaceful protests will only go one way. It's a tinderbox just waiting for a spark. 

Many of the scum are living in housing provided by the taxpayer at a nominal rent and couldn't tell you what the real rent is. Perhaps the distrusters should wonder about them as well as refugees.

[Captain Obvious]

I don't honestly think this is facism or extremism at play.

There's the bored youths pushing the boundaries. There's a pitchfork wielding mob that have neither the brains nor the interest to consider why they swing their pitchforks; it's just what they do. There's the vile, opportunistic scum making hay from the madness.

But the underlying current that has swollen and caused this, I genuinely believed, is fuelled by a housing crisis that has become a time bomb. The working classes and middle classes are getting financially obliterated in Dublin, as a direct cost of rent and housing. And that means it is not the right time for government to be taking in tens of thousands of refugees.

Refugees have a limited effect on the housing market. Immigration by well paid people in Intel or Google may well have more effect as these people can afford the rent. However, this group are paying their way and are paying for the scumbags who are looting Dublin tonight.

Whether refugees have a limited effect on the housing market is irrelevant.

What is relevant is that there's a rising tide of Irish people whose only opportunity to continue living where they're from, is to hand over the vast majority of their income to landlords (or, if they're lucky, to a bank). The government has taken almost no steps to prevent this happening.

But at the same time, the government is housing, feeding and paying people to come into the country, not to work.

As a policy it doesn't run along parallel lines with the housing crisis. But it does present any Irish person who is enduring financial struggles and concerns about their future, with a pretty rational reason to distrust their government, and the longer it continues, too begin hating their government. When a sizeable group of people of this mindset are found in the same area, plenty of them will be bored, plenty of them will be pitchfork wielders by nature and plenty of them will be vile scum. Meaning that peaceful protests will only go one way. It's a tinderbox just waiting for a spark. 

Pinning what has happened here on the far right, or on racism or extremism, well I think that's a cop out, and one that leans too heavily on the polarised culture of across the Atlantic. There's a closer-to-home problem running through Dublin today.

Ah yes we should just ignore or turn an blind eye to what was going on in the various videos posted online tonight. 

[LC]

As a policy it doesn't run along parallel lines with the housing crisis. But it does present any Irish person who is enduring financial struggles and concerns about their future, with a pretty rational reason to distrust their government, and the longer it continues, too begin hating their government. When a sizeable group of people of this mindset are found in the same area, plenty of them will be bored, plenty of them will be pitchfork wielders by nature and plenty of them will be vile scum. Meaning that peaceful protests will only go one way. It's a tinderbox just waiting for a spark. 

Many of the scum are living in housing provided by the taxpayer at a nominal rent and couldn't tell you what the real rent is. Perhaps the distrusters should wonder about them as well as refugees.

The thing that annoys me at about the housing is that within the so called 'working class' areas of places like Belfast / Dublin / Derry there is a sense of entitlement to a free house.  The rest of us had to get educated / get skilled in order to make our way in this world, nothing ever handed to us.  If you grow up getting your free house, your DLA and every benefit under the sun how are their offspring going to know any different in terms of how to get on in life. 

I guarantee you if you built 2 separate developments of housing and occupied one development with those from a supposed 'working class' area and the other development with those that cant get a mortgage but do not not qualify for social housing I guarantee which which one will look like a shit hole within 10 years.  Didn't have to work for it, didn't earn it therefore don't give a shit.

Instead of 'working class' areas the correct term should be 'work shy' areas.

[jcpen]

https://twitter.com/RyanD_IE/status/1727808590222663953?t=kcMH2UBcmdoepXelaulCFw&s=19

[LC]

https://twitter.com/RyanD_IE/status/1727808590222663953?t=kcMH2UBcmdoepXelaulCFw&s=19

I am surprised they didn't try to break in to JD Sports on Henry Street, it would be a real mecca for these scumbags.  I was in the one in Belfast the other week and could over hear two 'spides' drooling over some tracksuit, wouldn't be seen dead wearing that sort of stuff. 

[theskull1]

There has been a complete collapse in social order in Dublin tonight. This is entirely the government's fault.

They flooded our country with unsustainable levels of migrants, planted small communities with migrant centers, responded to legitimate concerns by labelling all opposition "far right", and passed the most draconian hate speech laws in the world to shut us up.

When you deny people an outlet to express concerns they know are reasonable you make them desperate


https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1727794469720797377?t=IRxYKqMS6KZ90n83_tVWHQ&s=19

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable. — John F Kennedy

[Sportacus]

There's half eight.  I wonder are any of the rioters up yet?

[RedHand88]

There's half eight.  I wonder are any of the rioters up yet?

32 are in court this morning.

No mucking about.

[Sportacus]

There's half eight.  I wonder are any of the rioters up yet?

32 are in court this morning.

No mucking about.

It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.  Slap on the wrist, or a proper deterrent.

[LC]

There has been a complete collapse in social order in Dublin tonight. This is entirely the government's fault.

They flooded our country with unsustainable levels of migrants, planted small communities with migrant centers, responded to legitimate concerns by labelling all opposition "far right", and passed the most draconian hate speech laws in the world to shut us up.

When you deny people an outlet to express concerns they know are reasonable you make them desperate


https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1727794469720797377?t=IRxYKqMS6KZ90n83_tVWHQ&s=19

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable. — John F Kennedy

Catch yourself on, the people on the streets last night are scumbags pure and simple. Wtf has looting Arnotts, Foot Locket etc got do with expressing their political opinion?

[jcpen]

There's half eight.  I wonder are any of the rioters up yet?

32 are in court this morning.

No mucking about.

It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.  Slap on the wrist, or a proper deterrent.

Should all be sterilized so they can't produce more scumbags in the future.