The Palestine thread

[seafoid]

Israelis in Lod were complaining about a pogrom after 54 years of military occupation of Gaza

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

What caused this round of conflict to kick off?

Well we could start at the Koran that orders the killing of all Jews.
Update it a bit and its the Palestinian leaders ordering it.
Continuation of Irans proxy war against Israel.

What bit of the Koran?

Is there not a bit in the old testament about the promised land or something? I gave up on fiction years ago so haven't touched it in ages let alone the loons and their rapture.

the promised land is Portadown

I am currently in Portadown. I can assure you. It's not.

That guy posting about all Jews being liars and whatnot. Please stop. That doesn't help anyone

Thankfully the Mods have deleted that despicable post earlier referring to Jewish people

[Baile an tuaigh]

You know a few years ago back in the day I remember English news papers were not allowed in the house. Not a huge surprise really for a large Catholic family at the time, considering the huge amount of depravity and anti Irish sentiment they published.

But not too many people are probably actually aware that depravity can destroy and ruin families. It is used as a form of control. It is a huge part of the spiritual war. Like back in 1919 in the United States 1200 Communists entered the Catholic Church with the sole purpose of destroying it from within. Not to many Catholics are probably even aware of this fact.

Same spiritual war still going on today in Palestine.

One very unambiguous evidence was given by the I.D.F. in 2002. After occupying the West Bank town of Ramallah, the Israeli occupation forces seized the local television stations and began broadcasting hard-core pornography to "psychologically shock and demoralize the residents". They put a curfew on people and told them if they leave the house after a certain time they would be shot".

You see there is no depth of perversnes that (((they))) will go to to achieve their goals.  Killing innocent children doesn't enter their conscience.

But two weeks prior to this latest genocide,  a Palestinian friend of my brother's predicted trouble a head for the Palestinians. He said anytime Netanyahu is in trouble at home they take their anger out on them.

Unfortunately he was right.

[tonto1888]

What caused this round of conflict to kick off?

Well we could start at the Koran that orders the killing of all Jews.
Update it a bit and its the Palestinian leaders ordering it.
Continuation of Irans proxy war against Israel.

What bit of the Koran?

Is there not a bit in the old testament about the promised land or something? I gave up on fiction years ago so haven't touched it in ages let alone the loons and their rapture.

the promised land is Portadown

I am currently in Portadown. I can assure you. It's not.

That guy posting about all Jews being liars and whatnot. Please stop. That doesn't help anyone

Thankfully the Mods have deleted that despicable post earlier referring to Jewish people

People need to realise there is a difference between zionists and Jews. There are plenty of Jews - look at the likes of JVP - who are against what Israel is doing to Palestine

[screenexile]

What caused this round of conflict to kick off?

https://twitter.com/IainDale/status/1392755854890479616?s=20

Good explainer here. This isn't going to end anytime soon it looks like.

[give her dixie]

The past hour has seen some very heavy bombardment from the Israelis.

I was watching some video's and it's hard to count the amount of bombs they are dropping from land sea and air.

There is chaos everywhere with nowhere safe.

[give her dixie]

Gaza on fire tonight

[TheGreatest]

Israel attacking Irelands health I.T infrastructure overnight...

[general_lee]

Death toll rising. 119 Palestinians dead, over 800 injured. Israelis are shameless.

[Jell 0 Biafra]

An excellent, long read on the case for Palestinian right to return.

https://jewishcurrents.org/teshuvah-a-jewish-case-for-palestinian-refugee-return/

[sid waddell]

An excellent, long read on the case for Palestinian right to return.

https://jewishcurrents.org/teshuvah-a-jewish-case-for-palestinian-refugee-return/

I read that last night and would highly recommend it

I myself have long believed a one state Bosnia type federal plan is the only even remotely plausible one

Israel really does have the most urgent moral duty to give full Israeli citizenship to all Palestinians in the occupied territories

It can only be precipitated by wide ranging South Africa style sanctions against Israel by the international community

That means the woke left in the US are Palestine's only hope, Democrats like Biden, Pelosi and the Boyle brothers sure won't cut it

[tonto1888]

An excellent, long read on the case for Palestinian right to return.

https://jewishcurrents.org/teshuvah-a-jewish-case-for-palestinian-refugee-return/

I read that last night and would highly recommend it

I myself have long believed a one state Bosnia type federal plan is the only even remotely plausible one

Israel really does have the most urgent moral duty to give full Israeli citizenship to all Palestinians in the occupied territories

It can only be precipitated by wide ranging South Africa style sanctions against Israel by the international community

That means the woke left in the US are Palestine's only hope, Democrats like Biden, Pelosi and the Boyle brothers sure won't cut it

Sid, can you recommend any further reading on the one state Bosnia solution you mention. The whole Balkans war and situation is not one I am overly familiar with at all

[Angelo]

An excellent, long read on the case for Palestinian right to return.

https://jewishcurrents.org/teshuvah-a-jewish-case-for-palestinian-refugee-return/

I read that last night and would highly recommend it

I myself have long believed a one state Bosnia type federal plan is the only even remotely plausible one

Israel really does have the most urgent moral duty to give full Israeli citizenship to all Palestinians in the occupied territories

It can only be precipitated by wide ranging South Africa style sanctions against Israel by the international community

That means the woke left in the US are Palestine's only hope, Democrats like Biden, Pelosi and the Boyle brothers sure won't cut it

Sid, can you recommend any further reading on the one state Bosnia solution you mention. The whole Balkans war and situation is not one I am overly familiar with at all

There's a great 5 hour documentary that the BBC did on the Yugoslavia war available on YouTube.

Peter Taylor does it and it's a brilliant documentary, was produced in the 90s.

Death of Yugoslavia is the name of it

[sid waddell]

Peter Taylor doesn't do The Death Of Yugoslavia.

It is a BBC production however.

Basically Bosnia is made up of two autonomous federal republics, one controlled by the Muslims and one by the Serbs, called the Republika Srpska.

This was the agreement brokered at Dayton in 1995 which ended the war - the Serbs had been after an expanded Serbia.

It think this system might have a chance of working in Israel/Palestine, with the West Bank/Gaza being an autonomous republic within a Greater Israel/Palestine, but everybody having the same citizenship rights. An overarching constitution would have to be very carefully and painstakingly drawn up to balance rights for both sides.

I think the series is very much worth watching, particularly with a view to how nationalistic rabble rousers can cause a red mist to descend over populations and turn on their neighbours. Milosevic himself was one of the catalysts when he travelled to a Serb part of Kosovo in 1987 and ran with a minor local political squabble which was to eventually escalate all the way to war.

There's a documentary called A Town Called Kozarac which I watched once when first broadcast, I see it's up on YouTube. My memory of it is that it focuses on personal stories of neighbours of different ethnicities turning viciously against each other, I must watch it again.

[tonto1888]

Cheers fellas. I will look those up