The Palestine thread

[seafoid]

What sanctions could Ireland impose that would make a difference?

The place is a disaster, how governments allow what goes on  or deal with Israel like the do is embarrassing.

Take away the septic line and it's heart of hearts it's a occupying force squeezing the life out of Palestinians

Anyone that supports a country that occupies another country is a Cnut 

Could the ambassador be removed maybe? Is that an option. Israel need to be shown that they cannot operate with impunity

What hold do they have on countries?

I wish I knew. I genuinely think countries don't want to go against them because they don't want to be labelled as anti Semitic

It's because The West are allies with Israel.

They have no worries about allegations of islamophobia.

That's part of it. And for some reason being islamophobic is not considered as bad as being anti Semitic. Look at the tories v Corbyn for example. As long as Israel continue to play the AS card every time they are criticised this will continue to be the case. It happens at every level. Even on twitter when you criticise Israel someone comes along with the AS line

AS won't work for much longer.
Israel is running apartheid and more and more people understand that.

Unfortunately it will continue to work, probably even more effectively than before, because Israel has immense influence in Western politics and media

The international right is shot through with genuine anti-Semitism, but this is overlooked because all these anti-Semites are fervently pro-Israel

There is also a minority of the pro-Palestine left which engages in genuine anti-Semitism and is too thick to see it, which sadly harms Palestine even further

You also have the international cult of neo-Nazism which wishes for another Holocaust, and so sees Palestine as a way to achieve this - Palestine would obviously be much better off without their unwanted support

Palestine has no allies, apart from the majority of the ordinary people internationally who see how it is treated - which absolutely is apartheid - but they have no power

Russia is an ally of Israel, many of the most hardline right-wingers in Israel are of Russian or Soviet origin, and Russia's ally Assad has several times bombed Palestinian refugee camps

So the tragic reality is Palestine has no hope whatsoever

The Zionists were forced to take Corbyn out . In the open. Straight out of the antisemitic fraud the Protocols of the elders of Zion. Israeli embassy involved as well.as Board of Deputies. Why?

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200414-keir-starmer-as-labour-party-leader-what-this-means-for-palestine/amp/

"For the pro-Israel lobby, the goal is to have a leader bound by the current Western economic and imperialist order, it is likely that this will happen through Starmer's strong support for the IHRA and the agency held over him by pro-Israel groups."

They want neoliberalism to.continue because of the wealth distribution. Israel is dependent on behind the scenes lobbying that is very f**king expensive.

The next crash.on the Lehman scale will.send interest rates to minus 4%
Neoliberalism is dying. When it does expire some version of socialism will replace it whether Israel likes it or not.
Billionaire Zionists will be taxed to irrelevance

Israel revealed its fragility when it went after Corbyn.

Sorry but none of that is going to change the situation where the pro-Israel lobby is dominant

They are only going to get more dominant

Sure GB News and a rival Murdoch station are launching very soon in Britain

The Republican party despite being viciously anti-Semitic is also viciously anti-Palestine, as are the leadership of the Democratic party

Look at the Boyle brothers, who are Democrats, they are also viciously anti-Palestine

The woke left are the only hope whatsoever for Palestine in the US, so you better hope AOC gets to be president

The past is not prolologue. Zionist money makes the lobby the most powerful in DC. Tammany hall used to be untouchable too. What happened to Tammany Hall? The people got sick of the corruption. And a guy got an airport named after him.

https://youtu.be/SaHflVDIzZo

[Angelo]

Another little discussed link between Russia and Israel is the mafia connection - many if not most Russian mobsters have Israeli citizenship

Sure where does Abramovich hide out - Israel

Semion Mogilevich is in and out of Israel

Netanyahu is almost certainly mixed up in this world of international organised crime, as is Trump, and Russia is a mafia state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_mafia#Russian_mafia

Russian mafia
The Russian mafia in Israel began with the mass immigration of Russian Jews to Israel in 1989.[14] Jewish Russian crime bosses such as Semion Mogilevich acquired Israeli citizenship and laundered money through Israel.

The Russian mafia saw Israel as an ideal place to launder money, as Israel's banking system was designed to encourage aliyah, the immigration of Jews, and the accompanying capital. Following the trend of global financial deregulation, Israel had also implemented legislation aimed at easing the movement of capital. Combined with the lack of anti-money laundering legislation, Russian organised crime found it an easy place to transfer ill-gotten gains. In 2005, police estimated that Russian organised crime had laundered between $5 and 10 billion in the fifteen years since the end of the Soviet Union. Non-Jewish criminals such as Sergei Mikhailov sought to get Israeli passports, using fake Jewish documentation.[15]

Russian and Ukrainian Jewish criminals have also been able to set up networks in the United States, following the large migration of Russian Jews to New York City and Miami, but also in European cities such as Berlin and Antwerp. Russian-Jewish mobsters include Marat Balagula, Evsei Agron and their respective criminal gangs in the United States. Soviet-Jewish criminal groups in the United States are involved in racketeering, prostitution, drug trafficking, extortion, and gasoline fraud as well as murder.[16]

Do you judge your beloved free state on the actions of the Kinahan gang?

You exposed yourself and your anti-Russian agenda in this thread by telling blatant untruths and you've done nothing to substantiate them.

Russia has been an ally of Palestine from day one, the 19th November 1988 and as much as you try and spin yet another case of Russia being on the right side yet again, you can't change the truth so you spread lies and misinformation.

So Russia's occupation of Crimea is OK but Israel's occupation of Palestine isn't??

I'm no fan of any occupation but you seem happy enough to cherry pick the 1 relatively excusable thing Russia have done and forget about the cyber warfare/annexation/corruption/raping of its countries natural resources/disgraceful treatment of LGBTQ but they support Palestine so they're a great bunch of lads... warped!!

Crimea is Russian. The Ukranian occupation of Crimea was wrong.

Also worth noting that Russia's stance on Crimea is supported by Palestine.

Palestinian Ambassador to Russia Abdel Hafiz Nofal made a statement in an interview with the media, noting that the people of Crimea "have the right to self-determination," and Palestine itself "supports Russia's actions on this issue."

Despite Sidney's lies, Russia always have and always will be an ally to Palestine, when it comes to conflicts Russia rarely picks the wrong side - history has taught us that.

[skeog]

Angelo were you ever in Palestine? must be some hell hole.

[seafoid]

Another little discussed link between Russia and Israel is the mafia connection - many if not most Russian mobsters have Israeli citizenship

Sure where does Abramovich hide out - Israel

Semion Mogilevich is in and out of Israel

Netanyahu is almost certainly mixed up in this world of international organised crime, as is Trump, and Russia is a mafia state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_mafia#Russian_mafia

Russian mafia
The Russian mafia in Israel began with the mass immigration of Russian Jews to Israel in 1989.[14] Jewish Russian crime bosses such as Semion Mogilevich acquired Israeli citizenship and laundered money through Israel.

The Russian mafia saw Israel as an ideal place to launder money, as Israel's banking system was designed to encourage aliyah, the immigration of Jews, and the accompanying capital. Following the trend of global financial deregulation, Israel had also implemented legislation aimed at easing the movement of capital. Combined with the lack of anti-money laundering legislation, Russian organised crime found it an easy place to transfer ill-gotten gains. In 2005, police estimated that Russian organised crime had laundered between $5 and 10 billion in the fifteen years since the end of the Soviet Union. Non-Jewish criminals such as Sergei Mikhailov sought to get Israeli passports, using fake Jewish documentation.[15]

Russian and Ukrainian Jewish criminals have also been able to set up networks in the United States, following the large migration of Russian Jews to New York City and Miami, but also in European cities such as Berlin and Antwerp. Russian-Jewish mobsters include Marat Balagula, Evsei Agron and their respective criminal gangs in the United States. Soviet-Jewish criminal groups in the United States are involved in racketeering, prostitution, drug trafficking, extortion, and gasoline fraud as well as murder.[16]

Do you judge your beloved free state on the actions of the Kinahan gang?

You exposed yourself and your anti-Russian agenda in this thread by telling blatant untruths and you've done nothing to substantiate them.

Russia has been an ally of Palestine from day one, the 19th November 1988 and as much as you try and spin yet another case of Russia being on the right side yet again, you can't change the truth so you spread lies and misinformation.

So Russia's occupation of Crimea is OK but Israel's occupation of Palestine isn't??

I'm no fan of any occupation but you seem happy enough to cherry pick the 1 relatively excusable thing Russia have done and forget about the cyber warfare/annexation/corruption/raping of its countries natural resources/disgraceful treatment of LGBTQ but they support Palestine so they're a great bunch of lads... warped!!

Crimea is Russian. The Ukranian occupation of Crimea was wrong.

Also worth noting that Russia's stance on Crimea is supported by Palestine.

Palestinian Ambassador to Russia Abdel Hafiz Nofal made a statement in an interview with the media, noting that the people of Crimea "have the right to self-determination," and Palestine itself "supports Russia's actions on this issue."

Despite Sidney's lies, Russia always have and always will be an ally to Palestine, when it comes to conflicts Russia rarely picks the wrong side - history has taught us that.

The Soviets expelled the Crimean Tatars during WW2. Crimea is not Russian.

[Angelo]

Another little discussed link between Russia and Israel is the mafia connection - many if not most Russian mobsters have Israeli citizenship

Sure where does Abramovich hide out - Israel

Semion Mogilevich is in and out of Israel

Netanyahu is almost certainly mixed up in this world of international organised crime, as is Trump, and Russia is a mafia state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_mafia#Russian_mafia

Russian mafia
The Russian mafia in Israel began with the mass immigration of Russian Jews to Israel in 1989.[14] Jewish Russian crime bosses such as Semion Mogilevich acquired Israeli citizenship and laundered money through Israel.

The Russian mafia saw Israel as an ideal place to launder money, as Israel's banking system was designed to encourage aliyah, the immigration of Jews, and the accompanying capital. Following the trend of global financial deregulation, Israel had also implemented legislation aimed at easing the movement of capital. Combined with the lack of anti-money laundering legislation, Russian organised crime found it an easy place to transfer ill-gotten gains. In 2005, police estimated that Russian organised crime had laundered between $5 and 10 billion in the fifteen years since the end of the Soviet Union. Non-Jewish criminals such as Sergei Mikhailov sought to get Israeli passports, using fake Jewish documentation.[15]

Russian and Ukrainian Jewish criminals have also been able to set up networks in the United States, following the large migration of Russian Jews to New York City and Miami, but also in European cities such as Berlin and Antwerp. Russian-Jewish mobsters include Marat Balagula, Evsei Agron and their respective criminal gangs in the United States. Soviet-Jewish criminal groups in the United States are involved in racketeering, prostitution, drug trafficking, extortion, and gasoline fraud as well as murder.[16]

Do you judge your beloved free state on the actions of the Kinahan gang?

You exposed yourself and your anti-Russian agenda in this thread by telling blatant untruths and you've done nothing to substantiate them.

Russia has been an ally of Palestine from day one, the 19th November 1988 and as much as you try and spin yet another case of Russia being on the right side yet again, you can't change the truth so you spread lies and misinformation.

So Russia's occupation of Crimea is OK but Israel's occupation of Palestine isn't??

I'm no fan of any occupation but you seem happy enough to cherry pick the 1 relatively excusable thing Russia have done and forget about the cyber warfare/annexation/corruption/raping of its countries natural resources/disgraceful treatment of LGBTQ but they support Palestine so they're a great bunch of lads... warped!!

Crimea is Russian. The Ukranian occupation of Crimea was wrong.

Also worth noting that Russia's stance on Crimea is supported by Palestine.

Palestinian Ambassador to Russia Abdel Hafiz Nofal made a statement in an interview with the media, noting that the people of Crimea "have the right to self-determination," and Palestine itself "supports Russia's actions on this issue."

Despite Sidney's lies, Russia always have and always will be an ally to Palestine, when it comes to conflicts Russia rarely picks the wrong side - history has taught us that.

The Soviets expelled the Crimean Tatars during WW2. Crimea is not Russian.

Crimea is Russian.

They have an overwhelming mandate there.

[seafoid]

Another little discussed link between Russia and Israel is the mafia connection - many if not most Russian mobsters have Israeli citizenship

Sure where does Abramovich hide out - Israel

Semion Mogilevich is in and out of Israel

Netanyahu is almost certainly mixed up in this world of international organised crime, as is Trump, and Russia is a mafia state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_mafia#Russian_mafia

Russian mafia
The Russian mafia in Israel began with the mass immigration of Russian Jews to Israel in 1989.[14] Jewish Russian crime bosses such as Semion Mogilevich acquired Israeli citizenship and laundered money through Israel.

The Russian mafia saw Israel as an ideal place to launder money, as Israel's banking system was designed to encourage aliyah, the immigration of Jews, and the accompanying capital. Following the trend of global financial deregulation, Israel had also implemented legislation aimed at easing the movement of capital. Combined with the lack of anti-money laundering legislation, Russian organised crime found it an easy place to transfer ill-gotten gains. In 2005, police estimated that Russian organised crime had laundered between $5 and 10 billion in the fifteen years since the end of the Soviet Union. Non-Jewish criminals such as Sergei Mikhailov sought to get Israeli passports, using fake Jewish documentation.[15]

Russian and Ukrainian Jewish criminals have also been able to set up networks in the United States, following the large migration of Russian Jews to New York City and Miami, but also in European cities such as Berlin and Antwerp. Russian-Jewish mobsters include Marat Balagula, Evsei Agron and their respective criminal gangs in the United States. Soviet-Jewish criminal groups in the United States are involved in racketeering, prostitution, drug trafficking, extortion, and gasoline fraud as well as murder.[16]

Do you judge your beloved free state on the actions of the Kinahan gang?

You exposed yourself and your anti-Russian agenda in this thread by telling blatant untruths and you've done nothing to substantiate them.

Russia has been an ally of Palestine from day one, the 19th November 1988 and as much as you try and spin yet another case of Russia being on the right side yet again, you can't change the truth so you spread lies and misinformation.

So Russia's occupation of Crimea is OK but Israel's occupation of Palestine isn't??

I'm no fan of any occupation but you seem happy enough to cherry pick the 1 relatively excusable thing Russia have done and forget about the cyber warfare/annexation/corruption/raping of its countries natural resources/disgraceful treatment of LGBTQ but they support Palestine so they're a great bunch of lads... warped!!

Crimea is Russian. The Ukranian occupation of Crimea was wrong.

Also worth noting that Russia's stance on Crimea is supported by Palestine.

Palestinian Ambassador to Russia Abdel Hafiz Nofal made a statement in an interview with the media, noting that the people of Crimea "have the right to self-determination," and Palestine itself "supports Russia's actions on this issue."

Despite Sidney's lies, Russia always have and always will be an ally to Palestine, when it comes to conflicts Russia rarely picks the wrong side - history has taught us that.

The Soviets expelled the Crimean Tatars during WW2. Crimea is not Russian.

Crimea is Russian.

They have an overwhelming mandate there.

It's not recognised under international law. Neither is the Israeli occupation of the West Bank.

[Angelo]

Another little discussed link between Russia and Israel is the mafia connection - many if not most Russian mobsters have Israeli citizenship

Sure where does Abramovich hide out - Israel

Semion Mogilevich is in and out of Israel

Netanyahu is almost certainly mixed up in this world of international organised crime, as is Trump, and Russia is a mafia state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_mafia#Russian_mafia

Russian mafia
The Russian mafia in Israel began with the mass immigration of Russian Jews to Israel in 1989.[14] Jewish Russian crime bosses such as Semion Mogilevich acquired Israeli citizenship and laundered money through Israel.

The Russian mafia saw Israel as an ideal place to launder money, as Israel's banking system was designed to encourage aliyah, the immigration of Jews, and the accompanying capital. Following the trend of global financial deregulation, Israel had also implemented legislation aimed at easing the movement of capital. Combined with the lack of anti-money laundering legislation, Russian organised crime found it an easy place to transfer ill-gotten gains. In 2005, police estimated that Russian organised crime had laundered between $5 and 10 billion in the fifteen years since the end of the Soviet Union. Non-Jewish criminals such as Sergei Mikhailov sought to get Israeli passports, using fake Jewish documentation.[15]

Russian and Ukrainian Jewish criminals have also been able to set up networks in the United States, following the large migration of Russian Jews to New York City and Miami, but also in European cities such as Berlin and Antwerp. Russian-Jewish mobsters include Marat Balagula, Evsei Agron and their respective criminal gangs in the United States. Soviet-Jewish criminal groups in the United States are involved in racketeering, prostitution, drug trafficking, extortion, and gasoline fraud as well as murder.[16]

Do you judge your beloved free state on the actions of the Kinahan gang?

You exposed yourself and your anti-Russian agenda in this thread by telling blatant untruths and you've done nothing to substantiate them.

Russia has been an ally of Palestine from day one, the 19th November 1988 and as much as you try and spin yet another case of Russia being on the right side yet again, you can't change the truth so you spread lies and misinformation.

So Russia's occupation of Crimea is OK but Israel's occupation of Palestine isn't??

I'm no fan of any occupation but you seem happy enough to cherry pick the 1 relatively excusable thing Russia have done and forget about the cyber warfare/annexation/corruption/raping of its countries natural resources/disgraceful treatment of LGBTQ but they support Palestine so they're a great bunch of lads... warped!!

Crimea is Russian. The Ukranian occupation of Crimea was wrong.

Also worth noting that Russia's stance on Crimea is supported by Palestine.

Palestinian Ambassador to Russia Abdel Hafiz Nofal made a statement in an interview with the media, noting that the people of Crimea "have the right to self-determination," and Palestine itself "supports Russia's actions on this issue."

Despite Sidney's lies, Russia always have and always will be an ally to Palestine, when it comes to conflicts Russia rarely picks the wrong side - history has taught us that.

The Soviets expelled the Crimean Tatars during WW2. Crimea is not Russian.

Crimea is Russian.

They have an overwhelming mandate there.

It's not recognised under international law. Neither is the Israeli occupation of the West Bank.

You're confused and you seem to be very much anti-democracy.

The Crimean people voted in their masses to join Russia, they feel Russian but you and West seem intent to defy democracy and self-determination.

The state of Palestine is not recognised by the West. The state of Palestine has been recognised by Russia and supported by Russia ever since it announced itself in 1988.

Of course facts don't fit in with your pro-imperialism point of view.

Another shining example where Russia has shown the West up as being on the wrong side yet again.

[sid waddell]

The past is not prolologue. Zionist money makes the lobby the most powerful in DC. Tammany hall used to be untouchable too. What happened to Tammany Hall? The people got sick of the corruption. And a guy got an airport named after him.

https://youtu.be/SaHflVDIzZo

Tammany Hall didn't exist because of the Holocaust and could not point to the Holocaust as a justification for its existence like the pro-Israel lobby does

Tammany Hall was simple bog standard political corruption in no way comparable to the Israel lobby, no more than it was not comparable to the Irish-American lobby

[Denn Forever]

United Nations Palestine

As of 31 July 2019, 138 of the 193 United Nations (UN) member states and two non-member states have recognised it. Palestine also has been a non-member observer state of the UN General Assembly since the passing of United Nations General Assembly Resolution 67/19 in November 2012.

[Angelo]

United Nations Palestine

As of 31 July 2019, 138 of the 193 United Nations (UN) member states and two non-member states have recognised it. Palestine also has been a non-member observer state of the UN General Assembly since the passing of United Nations General Assembly Resolution 67/19 in November 2012.

And pray tell me who out of the 138 UN countries don't recognise it?

I'll give you a few examples - US, Canada, Britain, Australia and the EU countries.

Interesting how those evil Russians continually show the West up when it comes to being on the right side of conflicts.

[screenexile]

Another little discussed link between Russia and Israel is the mafia connection - many if not most Russian mobsters have Israeli citizenship

Sure where does Abramovich hide out - Israel

Semion Mogilevich is in and out of Israel

Netanyahu is almost certainly mixed up in this world of international organised crime, as is Trump, and Russia is a mafia state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_mafia#Russian_mafia

Russian mafia
The Russian mafia in Israel began with the mass immigration of Russian Jews to Israel in 1989.[14] Jewish Russian crime bosses such as Semion Mogilevich acquired Israeli citizenship and laundered money through Israel.

The Russian mafia saw Israel as an ideal place to launder money, as Israel's banking system was designed to encourage aliyah, the immigration of Jews, and the accompanying capital. Following the trend of global financial deregulation, Israel had also implemented legislation aimed at easing the movement of capital. Combined with the lack of anti-money laundering legislation, Russian organised crime found it an easy place to transfer ill-gotten gains. In 2005, police estimated that Russian organised crime had laundered between $5 and 10 billion in the fifteen years since the end of the Soviet Union. Non-Jewish criminals such as Sergei Mikhailov sought to get Israeli passports, using fake Jewish documentation.[15]

Russian and Ukrainian Jewish criminals have also been able to set up networks in the United States, following the large migration of Russian Jews to New York City and Miami, but also in European cities such as Berlin and Antwerp. Russian-Jewish mobsters include Marat Balagula, Evsei Agron and their respective criminal gangs in the United States. Soviet-Jewish criminal groups in the United States are involved in racketeering, prostitution, drug trafficking, extortion, and gasoline fraud as well as murder.[16]

Do you judge your beloved free state on the actions of the Kinahan gang?

You exposed yourself and your anti-Russian agenda in this thread by telling blatant untruths and you've done nothing to substantiate them.

Russia has been an ally of Palestine from day one, the 19th November 1988 and as much as you try and spin yet another case of Russia being on the right side yet again, you can't change the truth so you spread lies and misinformation.

So Russia's occupation of Crimea is OK but Israel's occupation of Palestine isn't??

I'm no fan of any occupation but you seem happy enough to cherry pick the 1 relatively excusable thing Russia have done and forget about the cyber warfare/annexation/corruption/raping of its countries natural resources/disgraceful treatment of LGBTQ but they support Palestine so they're a great bunch of lads... warped!!

Crimea is Russian. The Ukranian occupation of Crimea was wrong.

Also worth noting that Russia's stance on Crimea is supported by Palestine.

Palestinian Ambassador to Russia Abdel Hafiz Nofal made a statement in an interview with the media, noting that the people of Crimea "have the right to self-determination," and Palestine itself "supports Russia's actions on this issue."

Despite Sidney's lies, Russia always have and always will be an ally to Palestine, when it comes to conflicts Russia rarely picks the wrong side - history has taught us that.

The Soviets expelled the Crimean Tatars during WW2. Crimea is not Russian.

Crimea is Russian.

They have an overwhelming mandate there.

It's not recognised under international law. Neither is the Israeli occupation of the West Bank.

You're confused and you seem to be very much anti-democracy.

The Crimean people voted in their masses to join Russia, they feel Russian but you and West seem intent to defy democracy and self-determination.

The state of Palestine is not recognised by the West. The state of Palestine has been recognised by Russia and supported by Russia ever since it announced itself in 1988.

Of course facts don't fit in with your pro-imperialism point of view.

Another shining example where Russia has shown the West up as being on the wrong side yet again.

Yes 97% of the Crimean people in favour of joining Russia seems legit alright!!

Russia have an excellent reputation for running free and fair democratic elections and referenda. . .

[Milltown Row2]

They only wanted what was fair for East Germany, Poland, Hungry, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia (and its internal countries) Albania, Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Ukraine.

I could add more, but you get the drift.

They were such a peaceful loving occupying country that they showed them the communist way, even helped put people in power so that they didn't have to vote them in, saving them the bother, so that they could que up for queue up for bread and other such delights. They even put in quality pipelines in so that the oil coming out of those countries could get to Moscow quicker creating the Russian oligarch who kindly bought soccer clubs around the world and big boats  

[Angelo]

Yes 97% of the Crimean people in favour of joining Russia seems legit alright!!

Russia have an excellent reputation for running free and fair democratic elections and referenda. . .

Very Trumpian of you to reject democracy.

If you're just going to regurgitate baseless Western propaganda then I will let you off. It's clear you only have agenda to pedal.

[Angelo]

They only wanted what was fair for East Germany, Poland, Hungry, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia (and its internal countries) Albania, Moldova, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and Ukraine.

How many wars took place in those countries post WW2?

I doubt Mildred will have the balls to address that question.

[JimStynes]

Google is getting some hammering today.