The Palestine thread

Started by give her dixie, October 17, 2012, 01:29:42 PM

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seafoid

Quote from: rossiewanderer on July 22, 2014, 02:41:14 PM
Hamas fires their rockets from schools, Kindergardens and Mosques using human shields in the process These are facts.It would appear to me that they hate Israel more than they love their people.

Israel are the right side in this unfolding tragedy.

No amount of esteemed professional Palestinian protesters in this country who continually quote out of context will convince me otherwise.In fact many of the rabble that constitutes these protests should get people thinking,Hang on a minute here....
Israel is an unfolding tragedy. To go from Holocaust survivors to mechanized child killing is some feat.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

93-DY-SAM

Regardless of who is to blame for starting this surely the cold hard stats are very damming when approx 550 Palestinian are dead and thousands wounded (a very large percentage of which are women and children) compared approx 13 soldiers on the Israeli side.  It's hardly indicative of a fair fight or an equal measure of force being applied. 

haranguerer

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on July 22, 2014, 03:08:10 PM
Regardless of who is to blame for starting this surely the cold hard stats are very damming when approx 550 Palestinian are dead and thousands wounded (a very large percentage of which are women and children) compared approx 13 soldiers on the Israeli side.  It's hardly indicative of a fair fight or an equal measure of force being applied.

We might read behind the headlines, but plenty don't, and these stats are being rightly masked.

Headline on the RTE news website earlier 'Israeli solider missing'

seafoid

https://www.facebook.com/naomi.wolf.author/posts/10152540481684476

"Challenged below for why I am mourning genocide in Gaza. I mourn genocide in Gaza because I am the granddaughter of a family half wiped out in a holocaust and I know genocide when I see it. People are asking why I am taking this 'side'. There are no sides. I mourn all victims. But every law of war and international law is being broken in the targeting of civilians in Gaza. I stand with the people of Gaza exactly because things might have turned out differently if more people had stood with the Jews in Germany. I stand with the people of Gaza because no one stood with us. I went to synagogue last Friday night and had to leave because I kept waiting for the massacre of Gaza to be addressed. ... Nothing. Where is god? God is only ever where we stand with our neighbor in trouble and against injustice. I turn in my card of faith as of now because of our overwhelming silence as Jews...I don't mean Israelis, a separate issue...about the genocide now in Gaza.

I want no other religion than this, that is, seeing rather than denying my neighbor under fire and embracing rather than dismissing those targeted with annihilation and ethnic cleansing."
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

muppet

Quote from: rossiewanderer on July 22, 2014, 02:41:14 PM
Hamas fires their rockets from schools, Kindergardens and Mosques using human shields in the process These are facts.It would appear to me that they hate Israel more than they love their people.

Israel are the right side in this unfolding tragedy.

No amount of esteemed professional Palestinian protesters in this country who continually quote out of context will convince me otherwise.In fact many of the rabble that constitutes these protests should get people thinking,Hang on a minute here....

Israel can stop the unfolding tragedy anytime it wants.

But it doesn't want to, quite the opposite.

Why do you cheer the killing of children?
MWWSI 2017

glens abu

It would appear to me that they hate Israel more than they love their people.

Israel are the right side in this unfolding tragedy.

No amount of esteemed professional Palestinian protesters in this country who continually quote out of context will convince me otherwise.In fact many of the rabble that constitutes these protests should get people thinking,Hang on a minute here....
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Quote from: rossiewanderer on July 22, 2014, 02:41:14 PM
Hamas fires their rockets from schools, Kindergardens and Mosques using human shields intheprocessThese are facts.

How do you know this is a fact?

Eamonnca1

Quote from: rossiewanderer on July 22, 2014, 02:41:14 PM
Hamas fires their rockets from schools, Kindergardens and Mosques using human shields in the process These are facts.It would appear to me that they hate Israel more than they love their people.

Israel are the right side in this unfolding tragedy.

No amount of esteemed professional Palestinian protesters in this country who continually quote out of context will convince me otherwise.In fact many of the rabble that constitutes these protests should get people thinking,Hang on a minute here....

I'm quite familiar with the Israeli propaganda line that people like you are so quick to swallow. Bet you didn't hear about the Israelis warning Palestinians to take shelter in a hospital that they subsequently started shelling though, did you?

Eamonnca1

Quote from: glens abu on July 22, 2014, 05:05:09 PM
How do you know this is a fact?

Fox News probably told him.

Wildweasel74

What bullshit excuse did they give for shelling the hosital, some imaginary rocket launcher spotted in the operating theatre??

years ago when the suicide bombings were going on i sympathise with Israel as this was open slaughter of women and children - civilians)
but for many years now i have seen the unjustice openly handed out to palestine , and Israeli total disregard for the killing of women and children,
they could not survive dishing out the violence and slaughter without America backing, its laughable at their outrage to the going on in the Ukraine (which we all condemn)
but the same slaughter in another part of the world by one of their buddies, there not even the same condemnation,and on war terms soldiers made a choice on war to fight and die for their country, innocent woman and children do not have a choice. they have turned into the very thing they have despised and are becoming more like the Nazis who original quest for slaughter was living space for it people and that was Hitler pretense for war

RealSpiritof98

Rossiewanderer is peddling the line sent out by the Israeli government, in every country the they have bombarded forums like this and regurgitated the same shit we've been hearing from Israel. The sad thing is imo we cant do f**k all about it. I've beem at picket lines but in the cold light of day, jews have the west by the balls, media is a wipeout, financial institutions are dominated by them and governments wont stand up to them. Now we have Russia chastising Europe that they have been too soft on Russia while they fund genocide in the mid-east

rossiewanderer

I have to laugh when my opinion that differs from anything other than Pro Palestinian provokes posters to accuse me of quoting fox news!? or being a plant sent by the Israeli state! or worse still cheering the slaughter! What a collection of cretins.


If Hamas were not still firing rockets into Israel  hundreds of children woman and civilians would be alive.That is the cold hard fact of the matter.

The tragedy that is unfolding is horrific and the military response from Israel is indeed completely over the top, and is basically indiscriminate killing which is what war is.I find it apalling, but it is provoked no less.

By the way the slaughter of war continues worldwide in DRC,CAR,Chad not to mention the Muslim militias in Sudan,Syria,Iraq and to a lesser extent Nigeria.But I guess Israel are not involved there so its not worth getting on the streets or in picket lines for.

Wildweasel74

#2081
There only one cretin on here Rossie, and you get the A*
Before hamas ever came about Israel was attacking Palestine on a regular basis, that's how all the palestines ended upon voting them in ,in the first place.
So your bullshit argument that's it all started over firing rockets is a crock of Shiite. Israel only came about through their terrorist campain against the British in palestine.
The UN awarded the Israelis 55% of the country even though the owned 7% at the time,and then have been levelling homes an occupying Palestine held land for Israelis past 15/20yrs, so take a guess why rockets are been fired at them you clown!

glens abu

Quote from: rossiewanderer on July 22, 2014, 08:47:45 PM
I have to laugh when my opinion that differs from anything other than Pro Palestinian provokes posters to accuse me of quoting fox news!? or being a plant sent by the Israeli state! or worse still cheering the slaughter! What a collection of cretins.


If Hamas were not still firing rockets into Israel  hundreds of children woman and civilians would be alive.That is the cold hard fact of the matter.

The tragedy that is unfolding is horrific and the military response from Israel is indeed completely over the top, and is basically indiscriminate killing which is what war is.I find it apalling, but it is provoked no less.

By the way the slaughter of war continues worldwide in DRC,CAR,Chad not to mention the Muslim militias in Sudan,Syria,Iraq and to a lesser extent Nigeria.But I guess Israel are not involved there so its not worth getting on the streets or in picket lines for.

Still never answered how you know for a fact that rockets are being fired from schools,etc;

Wildweasel74

Oh by the way, how did the hospital provoke anybody to get shelled and young lads playing on the beach, all are clearly visible from tanks and ships which are firing these, so that's comes down to a war crime shelling Innocent people in areas they can Clearly identify. How these people provoke the Israelis

macdanger2

Quote from: rossiewanderer on July 22, 2014, 08:47:45 PM
I have to laugh when my opinion that differs from anything other than Pro Palestinian provokes posters to accuse me of quoting fox news!? or being a plant sent by the Israeli state! or worse still cheering the slaughter! What a collection of cretins.


If Hamas were not still firing rockets into Israel  hundreds of children woman and civilians would be alive.That is the cold hard fact of the matter.

The tragedy that is unfolding is horrific and the military response from Israel is indeed completely over the top, and is basically indiscriminate killing which is what war is.I find it apalling, but it is provoked no less.

By the way the slaughter of war continues worldwide in DRC,CAR,Chad not to mention the Muslim militias in Sudan,Syria,Iraq and to a lesser extent Nigeria.But I guess Israel are not involved there so its not worth getting on the streets or in picket lines for.

By that rationale, the British army were justified in murdering innocent civilians on Bloody Sunday